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Don I second this why don't you just lay your belief on the line BRIEFLY of course.
I am mean we al lknow that you worship every word that NL says (no offence intended) but what do YOU personally believe, I do NOT want to hear it from Nancy I want to hear it from YOU from teh research that you have pwersonlly done. The links you provided above simply quote the Zeta site....


While I'm compiling a more complete response to fulcanelli as well as yourself, I have to say I'm shocked you'd say such a thing, L2L! :nono Not very Golden Ruler-like, that "worshiping every word that NL says", but since I know you mean no offense, I'll just remind you that I've been answering your questions a majority of the time I've posted over the course of the years here. This is the kind of message that they shoot messengers for, even on advanced worlds. It's a message that the civilization that's taken for granted by virtually every sentient being is about to come to an abrupt and destructive end, though many will survive and go on to become the leavening in the new aeon that comes into being. (I almost said new age, then thought better of it. :tounge ) That's why the hostile reaction to anything "Nancy", which by extension would then have to include those that recommend people listen to what she has to say. Me being one of them. What I've said many times before is that by the time I was introduced to ZetaTalk (or actually re-introduced by one of the workers at S-4 that processed Dan Burisch's work product, since the first time I stumbled on it I thought it was a cheezy new-age site), I had just gone through learning independently what it was speaking about. The epiphany was like the proverbial ton of bricks. So the important thing is to separate the message from the messenger, just as it always is, and study the logic behind it instead.

I'll be back later to finish these two answers. I'll be talking about The Ultimate Paradox.

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Bluebonnet, I heartily endorse that suggestion about practicing what we're preaching. In fact, I'd even recommend 72 hours, which would be 3 days rather than 2, but since most people can only get a 2-day weekend off, 48 hours will have to do. Total thumbs-up.

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Mjc, I'm not arguing with the price per share, or the percentage of shares owned by US, UK, and non-Anglo-American interests. I'm not even arguing that dividend payments shouldn't have been paid at all, and I'm not even implying that there's close to $60 billion sitting in a few bank accounts on Wall St. and in the City of London. The amount of net profit generated isn't in dispute, at least I don't think you're disputing that; the facts you just presented are likewise not in dispute either, and they don't conflict with the facts I presented - except perhaps by implication. What I was saying is that out of so much profit, the managers of the operation couldn't see the rationale in putting some of it to work helping to ensure that should the company's operations run afoul of mother nature, it was fully capable of handling an oil spill. It's not as if this was the first time an oil spill of monstrous proportions had occurred. Worse, the company could legitimately be accused of fraud due to the fact that they provided assurances to the gov't. that they were prepared for any potential 'spill', or leak, such as the afore-mentioned previous disasters of a less-epic nature. Now it's true that all the oil companies that are granted the right to drill offshore by the US gov't had to provide the same kind of assurances, and it's a case of "their but for the grace of God, go they", but ultimately they shouldered the responsibility and therefore are being held accountable. That's why the offense is even more egregious; they apparently lied when they said "sure, we can handle an oil spill! No problem! In the bag! Now where's that license to drill?".

Having said all that, I'm not advocating regular BP customers join a boycott of BP gas stations, that's just plain stupid, though many simply won't be able to stomach pulling up to their pumps for awhile.....this 'boycott' is apparently hurting many local BP stations, but if Beyond Petroleum is going to live up to their obligations, they're going to need to keep doing business to help restore the Gulf and its economy.


Don, I agree, it would be in the interests of everyone in the oil industry if they set aside a good proportion of their profits to deal with contingencies. If you're drilling in sensitive areas like Alaska or drilling a mile down like in the Gulf of Mexico, at least have the relief wells in place if the failsafes don't stop the flow of crude after a spillage or major accident. That's just common sense to me, but then again, I've not got to answer to shareholder interests and increase the company dividend on a yearly basis. Even so, in a dangerous business like the oil business, as we have seen, it's in your own financial interests to make sure everything is in place to deal with potential disasters. You've also got a greater responsibility of not disrupting the lives of hundreds of thousands of other people who live and work in the area where you're drilling.

By the tenor of your opening Brit comment, I thought you were implying that it was solely UK pension funds and investors who have been benefiting at the expense of Americans due to this oil disaster. As you know, they're not, because BP won't be paying out a dividend this year or probably years to come, having set aside that $20 billion to pay for the disaster (which I doubt isn't anywhere near enough). I was just pointing out that American investors -- ordinary members of the public with investment and retirement plans, the mega-rich, and others have benefited greatly too from BP's huge profits -- if not more so, judging by BP's once mighty stock price on the New York Stock Exchange. Some I read are already suing BP because of the slump in their stock price, like the group that represents Louisiana retired policemen, for example. What they fail to realize is that shares/stocks can go up, as well as down. That's the disclaimer that all financial advisers tell you over here. In other words, if they go up, all well and good, you're quids in. If they go down, well, you're on your own. :lol

Many of those Americans currently pledging their allegiance to this anti-BP facebook campaign have probably held BP stock at some time, be it knowingly as a private shareholder or without their knowledge as part of a managed investment fund/private pension plan. I guess the irony of that is lost on them. :doh Again, the words "cake" and "eat it" crop up, as does hypocrite. The BP gas/filling stations are also not owned by BP -- they're mom and pop concerns, as you call them over there. So, the BP boycotters are only hurting your average American worker trying to make a living. :roll

Of course everyone's outraged by what's happened in the Gulf Of Mexico, and the pure greed of companies like BP, but that's the nature of capitalism and maximizing profits on a yearly basis, and always will be, until eventually capitalism eats itself.


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BASES 7 BRITAIN'S PROJECT MONARCH

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Highly Disturbing allegations and claims involving Ritual Child Abuse, Aliens, Mind Control, UFOs, Secret bases in Somerset. Super Soldiers, MI6 and more..RAF in the Project Monarch Program. The Orkney Child Abuse Scandal is detailed.

Involves physical creature implants that move in the body, and radiate RF signals.
These Claims are made by Super Soldier Dave "M", in ths gruelling interview on the BASES label.
Continuing on from the Barry King, James Casbolt and Matt Todd data, we have more, and its getting worse. This information is for Mature researchers only. Some information may shock and offend. Its not looking good off planet!

Dave claims to "Hulk Out" and is a PRESENT Mind Controlled "Super Soldier", with scars and intrusion holes in his back. He is sent on secret Missions, potentially off planet. Who Knows, with others, some of whom were selected at schools in the Taunton area.

This is posted with the consent of an ACTIVE Mind Controlled Supersoldier in England. THREE have so far come forward, out of at least NINE.

BASES 7 invites the remainder to come forward. BUT so far we have no EVIDENCE ANY of these "Claims" have ANY valid Reality.

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Another good maybe todo thing is; inventory your "important gotta have, gotta go" items; (meds, pet meds, pet food, first aid, tools, cooking needs, batteries, fuels, lights, clothing layers, sleep needs, etc., etc., etc.,) with a reference to where you keep them about the house and an order to what you would grab to pack in a hurry to go boots on the ground. If you get pulled out of your house or must evacuate, you're not likely to have a lot of time to 'pick' and pack. Being ready to go in a hurry and well prepared are not often spoken in the same sentence unless the planning is pretty well organized. All wars, biblical scale evolutions and solutions depend greatly on logistical nightmares being overcome.


Excellent suggestion, Grist! :clap :heart

Because I live in hurricane country I send my daughter (who lives outside a hurricane zone) a DVD with my entire computer backed up once a year. She keeps it in a safe in her home.

Included on this disk are scanned documents - wills, deed to house and other properties, insurance, who to contact at my work, etc.

I also keep these same documents as hard copies (including birth certificates, etc.) in a plastic bag in a red file in our office. My kids refer to this file as the "I love you" file. If anything were to happen to my husband and I the kiddos have ready access to all the important information they need - in one place. The plastic bag helps us to scoop up these documents in the case of an emergency bug out whether that be from tornado, fire, hurricane, whatever.

Also, don't forget to write down your log on ids and passwords to everything! I have a password keeper on my phone and I have my info there but I also have it written down. While you might be flustered in an emergency you may be like me and suffer from Old Timer's Disease. The day after Ike neither my husband nor I could remember the password to the banking account. :censor :gah

Of course about the time we finally remembered it - the electricity went out for four days! :oops :crylaugh

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So what is the explanation for why insiders sold huge amount of BP stock before the disaster occurred? I haven't read an explanation that makes sense, other than the hard-to-believe idea that it was done purposely, motivated by a money and power agenda.

Of course, at first I believed the idea of 9/11 as an inside job was "hard to believe".
Now I believe differently.


Midnight I still NOT believe this was a deliberate act, HOWEVER I am a FIRM believer that a certain amount of insiders KNEW this well was doomed and shared this info with their buddies.

So instead of trying to fix the problem they sat back and made money from the problem :headbang

Again this is just my opinion, NOT FACTUAL by any means

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L2L wrote:

Don I second this why don't you just lay your belief on the line BRIEFLY of course.
I mean we al lknow that you worship every word that NL says (no offence intended) but what do YOU personally believe, I do NOT want to hear it from Nancy I want to hear it from YOU from the research that you have personlly done. The links you provided above simply quote the Zeta site....


While I'm compiling a more complete response to fulcanelli as well as yourself, I have to say I'm shocked you'd say such a thing, L2L! :nono Not very Golden Ruler-like, that "worshiping every word that NL says", but since I know you mean no offense, I'll just remind you that I've been answering your questions a majority of the time I've posted over the course of the years here..


Don you know dam well that statement did not come out as inteneded :roll

And I will go along with what you say about the "Message" rather than the "messenger" because personally I think NL is a few bricks short of a load but that's just my personal opinion....

I look forward to your repsonse.

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For me, a VERY BIG date marker will be next month's eclipse on the 11th...

If Planet X is there in the way that the Zetans say it is then something should be visible, and hopefully there will be those in Oz who will be looking & know what they should be looking for.

What else did their 'make of it what you will' comment re: July 2010 mean - unless they were refering to severe tectonic activity...?

A 'no show' on Saturday week will speak volumes, although it does not mean that no events will occur over the coming years - rather it just suggests that the causes will be something else.

Such as 'The Wave' as described by the Cassiopeans and or solar flares reaching the planetary surface.

and or something else 'undefined'. :yamon

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(sorry, I've also been silent for a while, life is hectic, at least its all good.)

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and hopefully there will be those in Oz who will be looking & know what they should be looking for.


Freakshow can we count on you for this, we can get you the info required if you don't already have it.

I wonder if Kate is still reading :hmm

Come out come out where ever you are :roflmao

simple simon wrote:

(sorry, I've also been silent for a while, life is hectic, at least its all good.)


Glad to hear all is well with you and yours Simon :wavey

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I can only try!

My mothers back home and it's "all hands on deck at the moment"

she's on::

sodium valproate 500mg tabs three morning three night

folic acid (MEGAFOL) 500mcg one morning

CLOZAPINE 50mg one morning and night

CLOZAPINE 100mg one at night

CLOZAPINE 200mg TWO at night

HYOSCINE HYDROBROMIDE (Kwells) 0.3mg tabs one at night

DILANTIN 100mg + 30mg one morning and night

SO YEAH I'll try give me the info and i'll try but i'm not promising anything!!

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fr33kSh0w2012 wrote:
I can only try!
My mothers back home and it's "all hands on deck at the moment"
she's on::
sodium valproate 500mg tabs three morning three night
folic acid (MEGAFOL) 500mcg one morning
CLOZAPINE 50mg one morning and night
CLOZAPINE 100mg one at night
CLOZAPINE 200mg TWO at night
HYOSCINE HYDROBROMIDE (Kwells) 0.3mg tabs one at night
DILANTIN 100mg + 30mg one morning and night
SO YEAH I'll try give me the info and i'll try but i'm not promising anything!!


Family first my friend we appreciate any effort you can make but take care of Mom first...

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Shawnna, if it was me that misspelled your name, since you didn't say who, my profuse apologies. And FWIW, I would bet the entire contents of the Federal Reserve (even if it turns out to be 99% tungsten) that this earth and all its inhabitants will experience a poleshift in the very near future, caused by the passage of the planet known to the ancients as Nibiru some 14 million miles distant when it does so. If I can be proven wrong, you can flay me alive and feed me to the kitty-cats. Dead serious. Selene gets the rights to the images though. However, I won't argue with you or try to rehash 7 years of the Golden Thread in order to convince you or anyone else. The case has been made ad nauseum and the time grows short, so I'll finish this by answering Unified Cause's questions, though only the parts that can be answered without expounding on every nuance.



:wavey No worries on the spelling, Don. Seems quite a few leave out one N for some reason.

You say 'If I can be proven wrong.................' hells bells my friend........... I'm just trying to understand what factual and scientific evidence you have come across that supports your firmly held belief? If there is none and your belief is just that ......... a "belief"..., so be it.

From the above link:

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Belief is the psychological state in which an individual holds a proposition or premise to be true.


I wouldn't dream of trying to prove someone's 'belief' wrong.... we are all on our unique Spiritual Journey and I honor all Spiritual Journeys.

What I'm simply wondering is what facts or scientific evidence have you seen that has led you to your firmly held belief? And FWIW, Dan Burisch and Nancy L don't qualify in my mind as "scientific evidence".

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Beam on the Pyramid of Kukulkan

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This beam came down from the sky enveloping a person in meditation at the Gilliland Ranch in Washington.
There are definitely neat things occurring up there.

Pillars of light

Jim Hurtak once shared with me and others a story about when he, and his wife & team were visiting the pyramids in Mexico and approaching them from the jungle was a group of dangerous paramilitary guerrillas.
When the guerrillas got out in the open fields two beams of light shot down from the sky in between Jim and company and the guerrillas. Well, the guerrillas banditos after witnessing that, gave them second thoughts, stopped, and returned to the jungle, thus, enabling Jim and the others to escape.
He said they were very thankful for the help.

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L2L wrote:

Don I second this why don't you just lay your belief on the line BRIEFLY of course.
I am mean we al lknow that you worship every word that NL says (no offence intended) but what do YOU personally believe, I do NOT want to hear it from Nancy I want to hear it from YOU from teh research that you have pwersonlly done. The links you provided above simply quote the Zeta site....


While I'm compiling a more complete response to fulcanelli as well as yourself, I have to say I'm shocked you'd say such a thing, L2L! :nono Not very Golden Ruler-like, that "worshiping every word that NL says", but since I know you mean no offense, I'll just remind you that I've been answering your questions a majority of the time I've posted over the course of the years here. This is the kind of message that they shoot messengers for, even on advanced worlds. It's a message that the civilization that's taken for granted by virtually every sentient being is about to come to an abrupt and destructive end, though many will survive and go on to become the leavening in the new aeon that comes into being. (I almost said new age, then thought better of it. :tounge ) That's why the hostile reaction to anything "Nancy", which by extension would then have to include those that recommend people listen to what she has to say. Me being one of them. What I've said many times before is that by the time I was introduced to ZetaTalk (or actually re-introduced by one of the workers at S-4 that processed Dan Burisch's work product, since the first time I stumbled on it I thought it was a cheezy new-age site), I had just gone through learning independently what it was speaking about. The epiphany was like the proverbial ton of bricks. So the important thing is to separate the message from the messenger, just as it always is, and study the logic behind it instead.

I'll be back later to finish these two answers. I'll be talking about The Ultimate Paradox.

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Bluebonnet, I heartily endorse that suggestion about practicing what we're preaching. In fact, I'd even recommend 72 hours, which would be 3 days rather than 2, but since most people can only get a 2-day weekend off, 48 hours will have to do. Total thumbs-up.



I would like to add my 2 cents. I am with Don 100 percent. All you have to do to see what is going on and what is about to happen is read the bible or any other holy book. They all tell of the shift. Do some rsearch on your own and you will see that Nancy L is right. No one missplaced Atlantis, it sank in the last shift. They may say the same thing about us. A society that changed men into women. Had ships with out sails. Power to destroy any country. But those are things said about Atlantis! Ledgens of the past. Or is it us ? My entire life I have read about the pole shift and lost civilations. Finaly NL wraped it all up in one package. So if you have any questions, just start reading. It seems to me that what ever you read about the end times will put you on a path that leads to Nancy Leader. But if you don't like her, and her aliens, stick to the bible and it's angels. They have the same message. The world is about to end. But you have to decide.

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I would like to add my 2 cents. I am with Don 100 percent. All you have to do to see what is going on and what is about to happen is read the bible or any other holy book. They all tell of the shift. Do some rsearch on your own and you will see that Nancy L is right. No one missplaced Atlantis, it sank in the last shift. They may say the same thing about us. A society that changed men into women. Had ships with out sails. Power to destroy any country. But those are things said about Atlantis! Ledgens of the past. Or is it us ? My entire life I have read about the pole shift and lost civilations. Finaly NL wraped it all up in one package. So if you have any questions, just start reading. It seems to me that what ever you read about the end times will put you on a path that leads to Nancy Leader. But if you don't like her, and her aliens, stick to the bible and it's angels. They have the same message. The world is about to end. But you have to decide.


:heart TT!

The world is about to end... but what does that mean? I'm serious here and I'm not being sarcastic or anything, okay?

Does the world ending mean the world as we know it will end and then we begin again as we have so many times before? That doesn't seem so bad to me. Yes, there will be massive loss of lives, etc., etc. but there will still be a chance to begin again, right?

Does it mean the that the world (Earth) ends its existance and we (humans, animals) who inhabit Earth are no more? Poof! Gone in a brilliant flash? :evil

I just can't seem to get my mind around "the world will end."

So let me throw this out...what if those prophecies were already fulfilled in 70 AD? When Jerusalem fell to the Romans and the gold eagles flew in the Temple defiling it forever. When nothing was left in the City of God except hyena's howling in the night?

What if those prophecies hold nothing for us now? :hmm

How do the Mayan and other prophecies relate to the Biblical ones?

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The Gospel According to Mary

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Papyrus Berolinensis 8502 was acquired by a German scholar, Dr. Carl Reinhardt, in Cairo in 1896 (the codex is variably referenced in scholarly writings as the "Berlin Gnostic Codex", the "Akhmim Codex", PB 8502, and BG 8502). It contains Coptic editions of three very important Gnostic texts: the Apocryphon of John, the Sophia of Jesus Christ, and the Gospel of Mary. Despite the importance of the find, several misfortunes (including two world wars) delayed its publication until 1955. By then the Nag Hammadi collection had also been recovered, and two of the texts in the PB 8502 codex -- the Apocryphon of John, and the Sophia of Jesus Christ -- were also found included there. The PB 8502 versions of these two texts were used to augment translations of the Apocryphon of John and the Sophia of Jesus Christ as they now appear in the Nag Hammadi Library.

Importantly, the codex preserves the most complete surviving copy of the Gospel of Mary (as the text is named in the manuscript, though it is clear this named Mary is the person we call Mary of Magdala). Two other small fragments of the Gospel of Mary from separate Greek editions were later also unearthed in archaelogical excavations at Oxyrhynchus in Northern Egypt. (Fragments of the Gospel of Thomas were also found at this ancient library site, see the Gospel of Thomas page for more information about Oxyrhyncus.) Unfortunately, the extant manuscript of the Gospel of Mary is missing pages 1 to 6 and pages 11 to 14 -- pages that included sections of the text up to chapter 4, and portions of chapter 5 to 8.
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The Gospel According to Mary Magdalene
Chapter 4
(Pages 1 to 6 of the manuscript, containing chapters 1 - 3, are lost. The extant text starts on page 7...)

. . . Will matter then be destroyed or not?

22) The Savior said, All nature, all formations, all creatures exist in and with one another, and they will be resolved again into their own roots.

23) For the nature of matter is resolved into the roots of its own nature alone.

24) He who has ears to hear, let him hear.

25) Peter said to him, Since you have explained everything to us, tell us this also: What is the sin of the world?

26) The Savior said There is no sin, but it is you who make sin when you do the things that are like the nature of adultery, which is called sin.

27) That is why the Good came into your midst, to the essence of every nature in order to restore it to its root.

28) Then He continued and said, That is why you become sick and die, for you are deprived of the one who can heal you.

29) He who has a mind to understand, let him understand.

30) Matter gave birth to a passion that has no equal, which proceeded from something contrary to nature. Then there arises a disturbance in its whole body.

31) That is why I said to you, Be of good courage, and if you are discouraged be encouraged in the presence of the different forms of nature.

32) He who has ears to hear, let him hear.

33) When the Blessed One had said this, He greeted them all,saying, Peace be with you. Receive my peace unto yourselves.

34) Beware that no one lead you astray saying Lo here or lo there! For the Son of Man is within you.

35) Follow after Him!

36) Those who seek Him will find Him.

37) Go then and preach the gospel of the Kingdom.

38) Do not lay down any rules beyond what I appointed you, and do not give a law like the lawgiver lest you be constrained by it.

39) When He said this He departed.


Chapter 5
1) But they were grieved. They wept greatly, saying, How shall we go to the Gentiles and preach the gospel of the Kingdom of the Son of Man? If they did not spare Him, how will they spare us?

2) Then Mary stood up, greeted them all, and said to her brethren, Do not weep and do not grieve nor be irresolute, for His grace will be entirely with you and will protect you.

3) But rather, let us praise His greatness, for He has prepared us and made us into Men.

4) When Mary said this, she turned their hearts to the Good, and they began to discuss the words of the Savior.

5) Peter said to Mary, Sister we know that the Savior loved you more than the rest of woman.

6) Tell us the words of the Savior which you remember which you know, but we do not, nor have we heard them.

7) Mary answered and said, What is hidden from you I will proclaim to you.

8) And she began to speak to them these words: I, she said, I saw the Lord in a vision and I said to Him, Lord I saw you today in a vision. He answered and said to me,

9) Blessed are you that you did not waver at the sight of Me. For where the mind is there is the treasure.

10) I said to Him, Lord, how does he who sees the vision see it, through the soul or through the spirit?

11) The Savior answered and said, He does not see through the soul nor through the spirit, but the mind that is between the two that is what sees the vision and it is [...]

(pages 11 - 14 are missing from the manuscript)


Chapter 8:
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10) And desire said, I did not see you descending, but now I see you ascending. Why do you lie since you belong to me?

11) The soul answered and said, I saw you. You did not see me nor recognize me. I served you as a garment and you did not know me.

12) When it said this, it (the soul) went away rejoicing greatly.

13) Again it came to the third power, which is called ignorance.

14) The power questioned the soul, saying, Where are you going? In wickedness are you bound. But you are bound; do not judge!

15) And the soul said, Why do you judge me, although I have not judged?

16) I was bound, though I have not bound.

17) I was not recognized. But I have recognized that the All is being dissolved, both the earthly things and the heavenly.

18) When the soul had overcome the third power, it went upwards and saw the fourth power, which took seven forms.

19) The first form is darkness, the second desire, the third ignorance, the fourth is the excitement of death, the fifth is the kingdom of the flesh, the sixth is the foolish wisdom of flesh, the seventh is the wrathful wisdom. These are the seven powers of wrath.

20) They asked the soul, Whence do you come slayer of men, or where are you going, conqueror of space?

21) The soul answered and said, What binds me has been slain, and what turns me about has been overcome,

22) and my desire has been ended, and ignorance has died.

23) In a aeon I was released from a world, and in a Type from a type, and from the fetter of oblivion which is transient.

24) From this time on will I attain to the rest of the time, of the season, of the aeon, in silence.


Chapter 9
1) When Mary had said this, she fell silent, since it was to this point that the Savior had spoken with her.

2) But Andrew answered and said to the brethren, Say what you wish to say about what she has said. I at least do not believe that the Savior said this. For certainly these teachings are strange ideas.

3) Peter answered and spoke concerning these same things.

4) He questioned them about the Savior: Did He really speak privately with a woman and not openly to us? Are we to turn about and all listen to her? Did He prefer her to us?

5) Then Mary wept and said to Peter, My brother Peter, what do you think? Do you think that I have thought this up myself in my heart, or that I am lying about the Savior?

6) Levi answered and said to Peter, Peter you have always been hot tempered.

7) Now I see you contending against the woman like the adversaries.

8) But if the Savior made her worthy, who are you indeed to reject her? Surely the Savior knows her very well.

9) That is why He loved her more than us. Rather let us be ashamed and put on the perfect Man, and separate as He commanded us and preach the gospel, not laying down any other rule or other law beyond what the Savior said.

10) And when they heard this they began to go forth to proclaim and to preach.


The Gospel According to Mary

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OFF TOPIC II

The Apocalypse of James
Translated by William R. Schoedel

It is the Lord who spoke with me: "See now the completion of my redemption. I have given you a sign of these things, James, my brother. For not without reason have I called you my brother, although you are not my brother materially. And I am not ignorant concerning you; so that when I give you a sign - know and hear."

"Nothing existed except Him-who-is. He is unnameable and ineffable. I myself am also unnameable, from Him-who-is, just as I have been given a number of names - two from Him-who-is. And I, I am before you. Since you have asked concerning femaleness, femaleness existed, but femaleness was not first. And it prepared for itself powers and gods. But it did not exist when I came forth, since I am an image of Him-who-is. But I have brought forth the image of him so that the sons of Him-who-is might know what things are theirs and what things are alien (to them). Behold, I shall reveal to you everything of this mystery. For they will seize me the day after tomorrow. But my redemption will be near."

James said, "Rabbi, you have said, 'they will seize me.' But I, what can I do?" He said to me, "Fear not, James. You too will they seize. But leave Jerusalem. For it is she who always gives the cup of bitterness to the sons of light. She is a dwelling place of a great number of archons. But your redemption will be preserved from them. So that you may understand who they are and what kinds they are, you will [...]. And listen. They are not [...] but archons [...]. These twelve [...] down [...] archons [...] upon his own hebdomad."

James said, "Rabbi, are there then twelve hebdomads and not seven as there are in the scriptures?" The Lord said, "James, he who spoke concerning this scripture had a limited understanding. I, however, shall reveal to you what has come forth from him who has no number. I shall give a sign concerning their number. As for what has come forth from him who has no measure, I shall give a sign concerning their measure"

James said, "Rabbi, behold then, I have received their number. There are seventy-two measures!" The Lord said, "These are the seventy-two heavens, which are their subordinates. These are the powers of all their might; and they were established by them; and these are they who were distributed everywhere, existing under the authority of the twelve archons. The inferior power among them brought forth for itself angels and unnumbered hosts. Him-who-is, however, has been given [...] on account of [...] Him-who-is [...] they are unnumbered. If you want to give them a number now, you will not be able to do so until you cast away from your blind thought, this bond of flesh which encircles you. And then you will reach Him-who-is. And you will no longer be James; rather you are the One-who-is. And all those who are unnumbered will all have been named."

<James said,>, "Rabbi, in what way shall I reach Him-who-is, since all these powers and these hosts are armed against me?" He said to me, "These powers are not armed against you specifically, but are armed against another. It is against me that they are armed. And they are armed with other powers. But they are armed against me in judgment. They did not give [...] to me in it [...] through them [...]. In this place [...] suffering, I shall [...]. He will [...] and I shall not rebuke them. But there shall be within me a silence and a hidden mystery. But I am fainthearted before their anger."

James said, "Rabbi, if they arm themselves against you, then is there no blame?"

You have come with knowledge,
that you might rebuke their forgetfulness.
You have come with recollection,
that you might rebuke their ignorance.
But I was concerned because of you.

For you descended into a great ignorance,
but you have not been defiled by anything in it.
For you descended into a great mindlessness,
and your recollection remained.
You walked in mud,
and your garments were not soiled,
and you have not been buried in their filth,
and you have not been caught.
And I was not like them, but I clothed myself with everything of theirs.

There is in me forgetfulness,
yet I remember things that are not theirs.
There is in me [....],
and I am in their [...].
[...] knowledge [...] not in their sufferings [...]. But I have become afraid before them, since they rule. For what will they do? What will I be able to say? Or what word will I be able to say that I may escape them?"

The Lord said, "James, I praise your understanding and your fear. If you continue to be distressed, do not be concerned for anything else except your redemption. For behold, I shall complete this destiny upon this earth as I have said from the heavens. And I shall reveal to you your redemption."

James said, "Rabbi, how, after these things, will you appear to us again? After they seize you, and you complete this destiny, you will go up to Him-who-is." The Lord said, "James, after these things I shall reveal to you everything, not for your sake alone but for the sake of the unbelief of men, so that faith may exist in them. For a multitude will attain to faith and they will increase in [...]. And after this I shall appear for a reproof to the archons. And I shall reveal to them that he cannot be seized. If they seize him, then he will overpower each of them. But now I shall go. Remember the things I have spoken and let them go up before you." James said,"Lord, I shall hasten as you have said." The Lord said farewell to him and fulfilled what was fitting.

When James heard of his suffering and was much distressed, they awaited the sign of his coming. And he came after several days. And James was walking upon the mountain which is called "Gaugelan", with his disciples, who listened to him because they had been distressed, and he was [...] a comforter, saying, "This is [...] second [...]" Then the crowd dispersed, but James remained [...] prayer [...], as was his custom.

And the Lord appeared to him. Then he stopped (his) prayer and embraced him. He kissed him, saying, "Rabbi, I have found you! I have heard of your sufferings, which you endured. And I have been much distressed. My compassion you know. Therefore, on reflection, I was wishing that I would not see this people. They must be judged for these things that they have done. For these things that they have done are contrary to what is fitting."

The Lord said, "James, do not be concerned for me or for this people. I am he who was within me. Never have I suffered in any way, nor have I been distressed. And this people has done me no harm. But this (people) existed as a type of the archons, and it deserved to be destroyed through them. But [...] the archons, [...] who has [...] but since it [...] angry with [...] The just [...] is his servant. Therefore your name is "James the Just". You see how you will become sober when you see me. And you stopped this prayer. Now since you are a just man of God, you have embraced me and kissed me. Truly I say to you that you have stirred up great anger and wrath against yourself. But (this has happened) so that these others might come to be."

But James was timid (and) wept. And he was very distressed. And they both sat down upon a rock. The Lord said to him, "James, thus you will undergo these sufferings. But do not be sad. For the flesh is weak. It will receive what has been ordained for it. But as for you, do not be timid or afraid". The Lord ceased.

Now when James heard these things, he wiped away the tears in his eyes and very bitter [...] which is [...]. The Lord said to him, "James, behold, I shall reveal to you your redemption. When you are seized, and you undergo these sufferings, a multitude will arm themselves against you that <they> may seize you. And in particular three of them will seize you - they who sit (there) as toll collectors. Not only do they demand toll, but they also take away souls by theft. When you come into their power, one of them who is their guard will say to you, 'Who are you or where are you from?' You are to say to him, 'I am a son, and I am from the Father.' He will say to you, 'What sort of son are you, and to what father do you belong?' You are to say to him, 'I am from the Pre-existent Father, and a son in the Pre-existent One.' When he says to you, [...], you are to say to him [...] in the [...] that I might [...]."

'[...] of alien things?' You are to say to him, 'They are not entirely alien, but they are from Achamoth, who is the female. And these she produced as she brought down the race from the Pre-existent One. So then they are not alien, but they are ours. They are indeed ours because she who is mistress of them is from the Pre-existent One. At the same time they are alien because the Pre-existent One did not have intercourse with her, when she produced them.' When he also says to you, 'Where will you go?', you are to say to him, 'To the place from which I have come, there shall I return.' And if you say these things, you will escape their attacks.

"But when you come to these three detainers who take away souls by theft in that place [...] these. You [...] a vessel [...] much more than [...] of the one whom you [...] for [...] her root. You too will be sober [...]. But I shall call upon the imperishable knowledge, which is Sophia who is in the Father (and) who is the mother of Achamoth. Achamoth had no father nor male consort, but she is female from a female. She produced you without a male, since she was alone (and) in ignorance as to what lives through her mother because she thought that she alone existed. But I shall cry out to her mother. And then they will fall into confusion (and) will blame their root and the race of their mother. But you will go up to what is yours [...] you will [...] the Pre-existent One."

"They are a type of the twelve disciples and the twelve pairs, [...] Achamoth, which is translated 'Sophia'. And who I myself am, (and) who the imperishable Sophia (is) through whom you will be redeemed, and (who are) all the sons of Him-who-is - these things they have known and have hidden within them. You are to hide <these things> within you, and you are to keep silence. But you are to reveal them to Addai. When you depart, immediately war will be made with this land. Weep, then, for him who dwells in Jerusalem. But let Addai take these things to heart. In the tenth year let Addai sit and write them down. And when he writes them down [...] and they are to give them [...] he has the [...] he is called Levi. Then he is to bring [...] word [...] from what I said earlier [...] a woman [...] Jerusalem in her [...] and he begets two sons through her. They are to inherit these things and the understanding of him who [...] exalts. And they are to receive [...] through him from his intellect. Now, the younger of them is greater. And may these things remain hidden in him until he comes to the age of seventeen years [...] beginning [...] through them. They will pursue him exceedingly, since they are from his [...] companions. He will be proclaimed through them, and they will proclaim this word. Then he will become a seed of [...]."

James said, "I am satisfied [...] and they are [...] my soul. Yet another thing I ask of you: who are the seven women who have been your disciples? And behold all women bless you. I also am amazed how powerless vessels have become strong by a perception which is in them." The Lord said, "You [...] well [...] a spirit of [...], a spirit of thought, a spirit of counsel of a [...], a spirit [...] a spirit of knowledge [...] of their fear. [...] when we had passed through the breath of this archon who is named Adonaios [...] him and [...] he was ignorant [...] when I came forth from him, he remembered that I am a son of his. He was gracious to me at that time as his son. And then, before <I> appeared here, <he> cast them among this people. And from the place of heaven the prophets [...]."

James said, "Rabbi, [...] I [...] all together [...] in them especially [...]." The Lord said, "James, I praise you [...] walk upon the earth [...] the words while he [...] on the [...]. For cast away from you the cup which is bitterness. For some from [...] set themselves against you. For you have begun to understand their roots from beginning to end. Cast away from yourself all lawlessness. And beware lest they envy you. When you speak these words of this perception, encourage these four: Salome and Mariam and Martha and Arsinoe [...] since he takes some [...] to me he is [...] burnt offerings and [...]. But I [...] not in this way; but [...] first-fruits of the [...] upward [...] so that the power of God might appear. The perishable has gone up to the imperishable and the female element has attained to this male element."

James said, "Rabbi, into these three (things), then, has their [...] been cast. For they have been reviled, and they have been persecuted [...]. Behold [...] everything [...] from anyone [...]. For you have received [...] of knowledge. And [...] that what is the [...] go [...] you will find [...]. But I shall go forth and shall reveal that they believed in you, that they may be content with their blessing and salvation, and this revelation may come to pass."

And he went at that time immediately and rebuked the twelve and cast out of them contentment concerning the way of knowledge [...].

[...]. And the majority of them [...] when they saw, the messenger took in [...]. The others [...] said, "[...] him from this earth. For he is not worthy of life." These, then, were afraid. They arose, saying, "We have no part in this blood, for a just man will perish through injustice" James departed so that [...] look [...] for we [...] him.



The Apocalypse of James

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OFF TOPIC III

The Gospel
According to Thomas
Translated by Thomas O. Lambdin

These are the secret sayings which the living Jesus spoke and which Didymos Judas Thomas wrote down.

(1) And he said, "Whoever finds the interpretation of these sayings will not experience death."

(2) Jesus said, "Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the All."

(3) Jesus said, "If those who lead you say to you, 'See, the kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."

(4) Jesus said, "The man old in days will not hesitate to ask a small child seven days old about the place of life, and he will live. For many who are first will become last, and they will become one and the same."

(5) Jesus said, "Recognize what is in your sight, and that which is hidden from you will become plain to you . For there is nothing hidden which will not become manifest."

(6) His disciples questioned him and said to him, "Do you want us to fast? How shall we pray? Shall we give alms? What diet shall we observe?"
Jesus said, "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered."

(7) Jesus said, "Blessed is the lion which becomes man when consumed by man; and cursed is the man whom the lion consumes, and the lion becomes man."

(8) And he said, "The man is like a wise fisherman who cast his net into the sea and drew it up from the sea full of small fish. Among them the wise fisherman found a fine large fish. He threw all the small fish back into the sea and chose the large fish without difficulty. Whoever has ears to hear, let him hear."

(9) Jesus said, "Now the sower went out, took a handful (of seeds), and scattered them. Some fell on the road; the birds came and gathered them up. Others fell on the rock, did not take root in the soil, and did not produce ears. And others fell on thorns; they choked the seed(s) and worms ate them. And others fell on the good soil and it produced good fruit: it bore sixty per measure and a hundred and twenty per measure."

(10) Jesus said, "I have cast fire upon the world, and see, I am guarding it until it blazes."

(11) Jesus said, "This heaven will pass away, and the one above it will pass away. The dead are not alive, and the living will not die. In the days when you consumed what is dead, you made it what is alive. When you come to dwell in the light, what will you do? On the day when you were one you became two. But when you become two, what will you do?"

(12) The disciples said to Jesus, "We know that you will depart from us. Who is to be our leader?"
Jesus said to them, "Wherever you are, you are to go to James the righteous, for whose sake heaven and earth came into being."

(13) Jesus said to his disciples, "Compare me to someone and tell me whom I am like."
Simon Peter said to him, "You are like a righteous angel."
Matthew said to him, "You are like a wise philosopher."
Thomas said to him, "Master, my mouth is wholly incapable of saying whom you are like."
Jesus said, "I am not your master. Because you have drunk, you have become intoxicated from the bubbling spring which I have measured out."
And he took him and withdrew and told him three things. When Thomas returned to his companions, they asked him, "What did Jesus say to you?"
Thomas said to them, "If I tell you one of the things which he told me, you will pick up stones and throw them at me; a fire will come out of the stones and burn you up."

(14) Jesus said to them, "If you fast, you will give rise to sin for yourselves; and if you pray, you will be condemned; and if you give alms, you will do harm to your spirits. When you go into any land and walk about in the districts, if they receive you, eat what they will set before you, and heal the sick among them. For what goes into your mouth will not defile you, but that which issues from your mouth - it is that which will defile you."

(15) Jesus said, "When you see one who was not born of woman, prostrate yourselves on your faces and worship him. That one is your father."

(16) Jesus said, "Men think, perhaps, that it is peace which I have come to cast upon the world. They do not know that it is dissension which I have come to cast upon the earth: fire, sword, and war. For there will be five in a house: three will be against two, and two against three, the father against the son, and the son against the father. And they will stand solitary."

(17) Jesus said, "I shall give you what no eye has seen and what no ear has heard and what no hand has touched and what has never occurred to the human mind."

(18) The disciples said to Jesus, "Tell us how our end will be."
Jesus said, "Have you discovered, then, the beginning, that you look for the end? For where the beginning is, there will the end be. Blessed is he who will take his place in the beginning; he will know the end and will not experience death."

(19) Jesus said, "Blessed is he who came into being before he came into being. If you become my disciples and listen to my words, these stones will minister to you. For there are five trees for you in Paradise which remain undisturbed summer and winter and whose leaves do not fall. Whoever becomes acquainted with them will not experience death."

(20) The disciples said to Jesus, "Tell us what the kingdom of heaven is like."
He said to them, "It is like a mustard seed. It is the smallest of all seeds. But when it falls on tilled soil, it produces a great plant and becomes a shelter for birds of the sky."

(21) Mary said to Jesus, "Whom are your disciples like?"
He said, "They are like children who have settled in a field which is not theirs. When the owners of the field come, they will say, 'Let us have back our field.' They (will) undress in their presence in order to let them have back their field and to give it back to them. Therefore I say, if the owner of a house knows that the thief is coming, he will begin his vigil before he comes and will not let him dig through into his house of his domain to carry away his goods. You, then, be on your guard against the world. Arm yourselves with great strength lest the robbers find a way to come to you, for the difficulty which you expect will (surely) materialize. Let there be among you a man of understanding. When the grain ripened, he came quickly with his sickle in his hand and reaped it. Whoever has ears to hear, let him hear."

(22) Jesus saw infants being suckled. He said to his disciples, "These infants being suckled are like those who enter the kingdom."
They said to him, "Shall we then, as children, enter the kingdom?"
Jesus said to them, "When you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the female female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye, and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in place of a likeness; then will you enter the kingdom."

(23) Jesus said, "I shall choose you, one out of a thousand, and two out of ten thousand, and they shall stand as a single one."

(24) His disciples said to him, "Show us the place where you are, since it is necessary for us to seek it."
He said to them, "Whoever has ears, let him hear. There is light within a man of light, and he lights up the whole world. If he does not shine, he is darkness."

(25) Jesus said, "Love your brother like your soul, guard him like the pupil of your eye."

(26) Jesus said, "You see the mote in your brother's eye, but you do not see the beam in your own eye. When you cast the beam out of your own eye, then you will see clearly to cast the mote from your brother's eye."

(27) <Jesus said,> "If you do not fast as regards the world, you will not find the kingdom. If you do not observe the Sabbath as a Sabbath, you will not see the father."

(28) Jesus said, "I took my place in the midst of the world, and I appeared to them in flesh. I found all of them intoxicated; I found none of them thirsty. And my soul became afflicted for the sons of men, because they are blind in their hearts and do not have sight; for empty they came into the world, and empty too they seek to leave the world. But for the moment they are intoxicated. When they shake off their wine, then they will repent."

(29) Jesus said, "If the flesh came into being because of spirit, it is a wonder. But if spirit came into being because of the body, it is a wonder of wonders. Indeed, I am amazed at how this great wealth has made its home in this poverty."

(30) Jesus said, "Where there are three gods, they are gods. Where there are two or one, I am with him."

(31) Jesus said, "No prophet is accepted in his own village; no physician heals those who know him."

(32) Jesus said, "A city being built on a high mountain and fortified cannot fall, nor can it be hidden."

(33) Jesus said, "Preach from your housetops that which you will hear in your ear. For no one lights a lamp and puts it under a bushel, nor does he put it in a hidden place, but rather he sets it on a lampstand so that everyone who enters and leaves will see its light."

(34) Jesus said, "If a blind man leads a blind man, they will both fall into a pit."

(35) Jesus said, "It is not possible for anyone to enter the house of a strong man and take it by force unless he binds his hands; then he will (be able to) ransack his house."

(36) Jesus said, "Do not be concerned from morning until evening and from evening until morning about what you will wear."

(37) His disciples said, "When will you become revealed to us and when shall we see you?"
Jesus said, "When you disrobe without being ashamed and take up your garments and place them under your feet like little children and tread on them, then will you see the son of the living one, and you will not be afraid"

(38) Jesus said, "Many times have you desired to hear these words which I am saying to you, and you have no one else to hear them from. There will be days when you will look for me and will not find me."

(39) Jesus said, "The pharisees and the scribes have taken the keys of knowledge (gnosis) and hidden them. They themselves have not entered, nor have they allowed to enter those who wish to. You, however, be as wise as serpents and as innocent as doves."

(40) Jesus said, "A grapevine has been planted outside of the father, but being unsound, it will be pulled up by its roots and destroyed."

(41) Jesus said, "Whoever has something in his hand will receive more, and whoever has nothing will be deprived of even the little he has."

(42) Jesus said, "Become passers-by."

(43) His disciples said to him, "Who are you, that you should say these things to us?"
<Jesus said to them,> "You do not realize who I am from what I say to you, but you have become like the Jews, for they (either) love the tree and hate its fruit (or) love the fruit and hate the tree."

(44) Jesus said, "Whoever blasphemes against the father will be forgiven, and whoever blasphemes against the son will be forgiven, but whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit will not be forgiven either on earth or in heaven."

(45) Jesus said, "Grapes are not harvested from thorns, nor are figs gathered from thistles, for they do not produce fruit. A good man brings forth good from his storehouse; an evil man brings forth evil things from his evil storehouse, which is in his heart, and says evil things. For out of the abundance of the heart he brings forth evil things."

(46) Jesus said, "Among those born of women, from Adam until John the Baptist, there is no one so superior to John the Baptist that his eyes should not be lowered (before him). Yet I have said, whichever one of you comes to be a child will be acquainted with the kingdom and will become superior to John."

(47) Jesus said, "It is impossible for a man to mount two horses or to stretch two bows. And it is impossible for a servant to serve two masters; otherwise, he will honor the one and treat the other contemptuously. No man drinks old wine and immediately desires to drink new wine. And new wine is not put into old wineskins, lest they burst; nor is old wine put into a new wineskin, lest it spoil it. An old patch is not sewn onto a new garment, because a tear would result."

(48) Jesus said, "If two make peace with each other in this one house, they will say to the mountain, 'Move Away,' and it will move away."

(49) Jesus said, "Blessed are the solitary and elect, for you will find the kingdom. For you are from it, and to it you will return."

(50) Jesus said, "If they say to you, 'Where did you come from?', say to them, 'We came from the light, the place where the light came into being on its own accord and established itself and became manifest through their image.' If they say to you, 'Is it you?', say, 'We are its children, we are the elect of the living father.' If they ask you, 'What is the sign of your father in you?', say to them, 'It is movement and repose.'"

(51) His disciples said to him, "When will the repose of the dead come about, and when will the new world come?"
He said to them, "What you look forward to has already come, but you do not recognize it."

(52) His disciples said to him, "Twenty-four prophets spoke in Israel, and all of them spoke in you."
He said to them, "You have omitted the one living in your presence and have spoken (only) of the dead."

(53) His disciples said to him, "Is circumcision beneficial or not?"
He said to them, "If it were beneficial, their father would beget them already circumcised from their mother. Rather, the true circumcision in spirit has become completely profitable."

(54) Jesus said, "Blessed are the poor, for yours is the kingdom of heaven."

(55) Jesus said, "Whoever does not hate his father and his mother cannot become a disciple to me. And whoever does not hate his brothers and sisters and take up his cross in my way will not be worthy of me."

(56) Jesus said, "Whoever has come to understand the world has found (only) a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world."

(57) Jesus said, "The kingdom of the father is like a man who had good seed. His enemy came by night and sowed weeds among the good seed. The man did not allow them to pull up the weeds; he said to them, 'I am afraid that you will go intending to pull up the weeds and pull up the wheat along with them.' For on the day of the harvest the weeds will be plainly visible, and they will be pulled up and burned."

(58) Jesus said, "Blessed is the man who has suffered and found life."

(59) Jesus said, "Take heed of the living one while you are alive, lest you die and seek to see him and be unable to do so."

(60) <They saw> a Samaritan carrying a lamb on his way to Judea. He said to his disciples, "That man is round about the lamb."
They said to him, "So that he may kill it and eat it."
He said to them, "While it is alive, he will not eat it, but only when he has killed it and it has become a corpse."
They said to him, "He cannot do so otherwise."
He said to them, "You too, look for a place for yourself within repose, lest you become a corpse and be eaten."

(61) Jesus said, "Two will rest on a bed: the one will die, and the other will live."
Salome said, "Who are you, man, that you ... have come up on my couch and eaten from my table?"
Jesus said to her, "I am he who exists from the undivided. I was given some of the things of my father."
<...> "I am your disciple."
<...> "Therefore I say, if he is destroyed, he will be filled with light, but if he is divided, he will be filled with darkness."

(62) Jesus said, "It is to those who are worthy of my mysteries that I tell my mysteries. Do not let your left (hand) know what your right (hand) is doing."

(63) Jesus said, "There was a rich man who had much money. He said, 'I shall put my money to use so that I may sow, reap, plant, and fill my storehouse with produce, with the result that I shall lack nothing.' Such were his intentions, but that same night he died. Let him who has ears hear."

(64) Jesus said, "A man had received visitors. And when he had prepared the dinner, he sent his servant to invite the guests.
He went to the first one and said to him, 'My master invites you.' He said, 'I have claims against some merchants. They are coming to me this evening. I must go and give them my orders. I ask to be excused from the dinner.'
He went to another and said to him, 'My master has invited you.' He said to him, 'I have just bought a house and am required for the day. I shall not have any spare time.'
He went to another and said to him, 'My master invites you.' He said to him, 'My friend is going to get married, and I am to prepare the banquet. I shall not be able to come. I ask to be excused from the dinner.'
He went to another and said to him, 'My master invites you.' He said to him, 'I have just bought a farm, and I am on my way to collect the rent. I shall not be able to come. I ask to be excused.'
The servant returned and said to his master, 'Those whom you invited to the dinner have asked to be excused.' The master said to his servant, 'Go outside to the streets and bring back those whom you happen to meet, so that they may dine.' Businessmen and merchants will not enter the places of my father."

(65) He said, "There was a good man who owned a vineyard. He leased it to tenant farmers so that they might work it and he might collect the produce from them. He sent his servant so that the tenants might give him the produce of the vineyard. They seized his servant and beat him, all but killing him. The servant went back and told his master. The master said, 'Perhaps he did not recognize them.' He sent another servant. The tenants beat this one as well. Then the owner sent his son and said, 'Perhaps they will show respect to my son.' Because the tenants knew that it was he who was the heir to the vineyard, they seized him and killed him. Let him who has ears hear."

(66) Jesus said, "Show me the stone which the builders have rejected. That one is the cornerstone."

(67) Jesus said, "If one who knows the all still feels a personal deficiency, he is completely deficient."

(68) Jesus said, "Blessed are you when you are hated and persecuted. Wherever you have been persecuted they will find no place."

(69) Jesus said, "Blessed are they who have been persecuted within themselves. It is they who have truly come to know the father. Blessed are the hungry, for the belly of him who desires will be filled."

(70) Jesus said, "That which you have will save you if you bring it forth from yourselves. That which you do not have within you will kill you if you do not have it within you."

(71) Jesus said, "I shall destroy this house, and no one will be able to build it [...]."

(72) A man said to him, "Tell my brothers to divide my father's possessions with me."
He said to him, "O man, who has made me a divider?"
He turned to his disciples and said to them, "I am not a divider, am I?"

(73) Jesus said, "The harvest is great but the laborers are few. Beseech the Lord, therefore, to send out laborers to the harvest."

(74) He said, "O Lord, there are many around the drinking trough, but there is nothing in the cistern."

(75) Jesus said, "Many are standing at the door, but it is the solitary who will enter the bridal chamber."

(76) Jesus said, "The kingdom of the father is like a merchant who had a consignment of merchandise and who discovered a pearl. That merchant was shrewd. He sold the merchandise and bought the pearl alone for himself. You too, seek his unfailing and enduring treasure where no moth comes near to devour and no worm destroys."

(77) Jesus said, "It is I who am the light which is above them all. It is I who am the all. From me did the all come forth, and unto me did the all extend. Split a piece of wood, and I am there. Lift up the stone, and you will find me there."

(78) Jesus said, "Why have you come out into the desert? To see a reed shaken by the wind? And to see a man clothed in fine garments like your kings and your great men? Upon them are the fine garments, and they are unable to discern the truth."

(79) A woman from the crowd said to him, "Blessed are the womb which bore you and the breasts which nourished you."
He said to her, "Blessed are those who have heard the word of the father and have truly kept it. For there will be days when you will say, 'Blessed are the womb which has not conceived and the breasts which have not given milk.'"

(80) Jesus said, "He who has recognized the world has found the body, but he who has found the body is superior to the world."

(81) Jesus said, "Let him who has grown rich be king, and let him who possesses power renounce it."

(82) Jesus said, "He who is near me is near the fire, and he who is far from me is far from the kingdom."

(83) Jesus said, "The images are manifest to man, but the light in them remains concealed in the image of the light of the father. He will become manifest, but his image will remain concealed by his light."

(84) Jesus said, "When you see your likeness, you rejoice. But when you see your images which came into being before you, and which neither die not become manifest, how much you will have to bear!"

(85) Jesus said, "Adam came into being from a great power and a great wealth, but he did not become worthy of you. For had he been worthy, he would not have experienced death."

(86) Jesus said, "The foxes have their holes and the birds have their nests, but the son of man has no place to lay his head and rest."

(87) Jesus said, "Wretched is the body that is dependant upon a body, and wretched is the soul that is dependent on these two."

(88) Jesus said, "The angels and the prophets will come to you and give to you those things you (already) have. And you too, give them those things which you have, and say to yourselves, 'When will they come and take what is theirs?'"

(89) Jesus said, "Why do you wash the outside of the cup? Do you not realize that he who made the inside is the same one who made the outside?"

(90) Jesus said, "Come unto me, for my yoke is easy and my lordship is mild, and you will find repose for yourselves."

(91) They said to him, "Tell us who you are so that we may believe in you."
He said to them, "You read the face of the sky and of the earth, but you have not recognized the one who is before you, and you do not know how to read this moment."

(92) Jesus said, "Seek and you will find. Yet, what you asked me about in former times and which I did not tell you then, now I do desire to tell, but you do not inquire after it."

(93) <Jesus said,> "Do not give what is holy to dogs, lest they throw them on the dung-heap. Do not throw the pearls to swine, lest they [...] it [...]."

(94) Jesus said, "He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in."

(95) Jesus said, "If you have money, do not lend it at interest, but give it to one from whom you will not get it back."

(96) Jesus said, "The kingdom of the father is like a certain woman. She took a little leaven, concealed it in some dough, and made it into large loaves. Let him who has ears hear."

(97) Jesus said, "The kingdom of the father is like a certain woman who was carrying a jar full of meal. While she was walking on the road, still some distance from home, the handle of the jar broke and the meal emptied out behind her on the road. She did not realize it; she had noticed no accident. When she reached her house, she set the jar down and found it empty."

(98) Jesus said, "The kingdom of the father is like a certain man who wanted to kill a powerful man. In his own house he drew his sword and stuck it into the wall in order to find out whether his hand could carry through. Then he slew the powerful man."

(99) The disciples said to him, "Your brothers and your mother are standing outside."
He said to them, "Those here who do the will of my father are my brothers and my mother. It is they who will enter the kingdom of my father."

(100) They showed Jesus a gold coin and said to him, "Caesar's men demand taxes from us."
He said to them, "Give Caesar what belongs to Caesar, give God what belongs to God, and give me what is mine."

(101) <Jesus said,> "Whoever does not hate his father and his mother as I do cannot become a disciple to me. And whoever does not love his father and his mother as I do cannot become a disciple to me. For my mother [...], but my true mother gave me life."

(102) Jesus said, "Woe to the pharisees, for they are like a dog sleeping in the manger of oxen, for neither does he eat nor does he let the oxen eat."

(103) Jesus said, "Fortunate is the man who knows where the brigands will enter, so that he may get up, muster his domain, and arm himself before they invade."

(104) They said to Jesus, "Come, let us pray today and let us fast."
Jesus said, "What is the sin that I have committed, or wherein have I been defeated? But when the bridegroom leaves the bridal chamber, then let them fast and pray."

(105) Jesus said, "He who knows the father and the mother will be called the son of a harlot."

(106) Jesus said, "When you make the two one, you will become the sons of man, and when you say, 'Mountain, move away,' it will move away."

(107) Jesus said, "The kingdom is like a shepherd who had a hundred sheep. One of them, the largest, went astray. He left the ninety-nine sheep and looked for that one until he found it. When he had gone to such trouble, he said to the sheep, 'I care for you more than the ninety-nine.'"

(108) Jesus said, "He who will drink from my mouth will become like me. I myself shall become he, and the things that are hidden will be revealed to him."

(109) Jesus said, "The kingdom is like a man who had a hidden treasure in his field without knowing it. And after he died, he left it to his son. The son did not know (about the treasure). He inherited the field and sold it. And the one who bought it went plowing and found the treasure. He began to lend money at interest to whomever he wished."

(110) Jesus said, "Whoever finds the world and becomes rich, let him renounce the world."

(111) Jesus said, "The heavens and the earth will be rolled up in your presence. And the one who lives from the living one will not see death." Does not Jesus say, "Whoever finds himself is superior to the world?"

(112) Jesus said, "Woe to the flesh that depends on the soul; woe to the soul that depends on the flesh."

(113) His disciples said to him, "When will the kingdom come?"
<Jesus said,> "It will not come by waiting for it. It will not be a matter of saying 'here it is' or 'there it is.' Rather, the kingdom of the father is spread out upon the earth, and men do not see it."

(114) Simon Peter said to him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life."
Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every woman who will make herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven."

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Pretty confincing photo :awe

5-24-10 South of Arnold Air Force Base - Tullahoma, Tennessee

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My son was on break and shot these photographs with his camera phone. The location is just south of Arnold Air Force Base in Tullahoma, Tennessee.

Let me know what you think. I looked at them on Windows Photo Gallery in different contrast and brightness modes, and they are pretty weird.

Evidently there were several people who got photos. The time was after midnight, and I think the three photos you have were taken within a time period of about three minutes.

(Editor's Note: A couple of days later, I received an email from Ian, who took the photos shown below.)

Hello this is Ian, the guy who took the photos in Tennessee. My dad emailed you the three photos I took.The date was May 24th and the time was 1:30 to 1:35 AM.

The reason I started taking the photos is because we thought it was a plane crash until it got close enough to know it wasn't.

There were a few other people outside that saw it also, so I'm not crazy...

http://www.viewzone2.com/mf053110.html

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They're b-a-a-a-a-ck...

Oh, drear....

SNED's is back online, https://www.eaglesdisobey.net/ with more of the same-old-same-old... this time under the "administration" :roll of Fran Ortiz.

Like most of us here, I lost interest in that overwrought soap opera long ago. They haven't come up with a decent new adventure series in over a year. No wonder their ratings are down.

Popcorn rating: no stars

:popcorn

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From Eagles. Selene's url access...

1998 as Marci's effort to focus public awareness on Dan's situation, and pressure Majestic to let Dan free from the virtual prison he was in, working on extraterrestrial biology at Area-51 and S-4. Dan spent 20 years involved with MJ-12 (Majestic-12), Area-51 and the S-4 Lab facilities. While he was there, he personally saw UFOs being back engineered in the bays where Bill Uhouse worked. He also saw the 'reproduction vehicles' we ourselves were working on, to make use of the extraterrestrial technology that was in our hands.
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Selene wrote:
They're b-a-a-a-a-ck...

Oh, drear....

SNED's is back online, https://www.eaglesdisobey.net/ with more of the same-old-same-old... this time under the "administration" :roll of Fran Ortiz.

Like most of us here, I lost interest in that overwrought soap opera long ago. They haven't come up with a decent new adventure series in over a year. No wonder their ratings are down.

Popcorn rating: no stars

:popcorn

Cheers,

Selene


Hi Selene, fulcanelli here.

SNEDs was never "gone" or off-line, that I know of. If you check the SNEDs Says forum, you'll see that a few of us have documented what we meant by their demise. Dan & Marci have abandoned ship, leaving the forum and ED site to Fran, as you indicated.

Several here, including myself and particularly DonDep, have first-hand knowledge and experience dealing with DB & MM, and know that there are ALWAYS ulterior motives to just about everything they do. When there's a significant shift, some of us may find their ulterior motives to be telling, especially when combined with other information that we either (1) know to be true, (2) understand to be generally accepted, and (3) circumstances which can be inferred from history and life experience [both their's and our own].

Generally-speaking, I think we can all agree that "things" are changing rapidly. We're all part of these changes and NO ONE is exempt. While both Light and Dark forces are on the front-lines, and many are awakening and opening their eyes, the masses are blissfully asleep:



Those of us who participate here on the original and true Golden Thread (admittedly, I'm new here), and forums or outlets of similar investigation into The Truth, yearn to live on, better ourselves & spread awareness... which is more than possible, with the help of like-minded people. ;)

That's what it's all about, IMHO. If there's more than meets the eye, to the flight of the "Eagles", then we should certainly consider it. Regardless, I've always felt more dark than light, with those two.... quite a bit more.

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Hi all. If I'm not at work when it happens I'd love to go on Planet X watch when the eclipse happens. Has anyone got details about when it is or a link about it?


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I may have this wrong, and have my information cross wired.

But listening to the many disclosure's we are told the following:

* There is a space command. Could be run by the Navy. Many Space Ships.
* There are portals. These can take you from one point on earth to another. Or take you to another planet.
* There is a base on the moon.
* There is a base on Mars.
* The "Elite" and Military Complex have underground bases. On and off land stocked and ready to keep them "safe" during any cataclysm.

What puzzle's me is that the ruling elite would I presume know of the off world bases, human controlled space ships, portals. Why would they risk staying here when they could hop to the moon or mars, or better, board a spaceship and take it out far enough to avoid the possible coming cataclysm. Also would the alleged STS Aliens who are working with the STS humans not find it in their interest to save as many as their fellow STS humans as to ensure their continued control once the planet stabilizes in terms of the weather. Would it not also serve the STO to save as many humans who could bring peace after such a shocking cataclysm?

I understand the STO non interference policy. However there does appear to be a gray area when it comes to STO making contact. I read STO Aliens prefer we choose out own parth, yet we find them making contact with humans's, speaking with humans who then provide information aka like Nancy. We also find STO Aliens ( I presume STO and not STS in disguise) taking various humans and showing them various possible cataclysm's on Earth. There is also the possibility that Alien's are communicating with us with the crop circles.

The above to me is a clear breach of any non interference policy and one that is only acted when it suits the desired group of Aliens. It would seem we are asked to walk a road which we are told we must walk alone to get to the desired destination, however any interference by them, i.e communicating with us, ships in the sky etc. This surley alters out path for good or bad.

Thoughts anyone?

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UnifiedCause wrote:
I may have this wrong, and have my information cross wired.

But listening to the many disclosure's we are told the following:

* There is a space command. Could be run by the Navy. Many Space Ships.
* There are portals. These can take you from one point on earth to another. Or take you to another planet.
* There is a base on the moon.
* There is a base on Mars.
* The "Elite" and Military Complex have underground bases. On and off land stocked and ready to keep them "safe" during any cataclysm.

What puzzle's me is that the ruling elite would I presume know of the off world bases, human controlled space ships, portals. Why would they risk staying here when they could hop to the moon or mars, or better, board a spaceship and take it out far enough to avoid the possible coming cataclysm. Also would the alleged STS Aliens who are working with the STS humans not find it in their interest to save as many as their fellow STS humans as to ensure their continued control once the planet stabilizes in terms of the weather. Would it not also serve the STO to save as many humans who could bring peace after such a shocking cataclysm?

I understand the STO non interference policy. However there does appear to be a gray area when it comes to STO making contact. I read STO Aliens prefer we choose out own parth, yet we find them making contact with humans's, speaking with humans who then provide information aka like Nancy. We also find STO Aliens ( I presume STO and not STS in disguise) taking various humans and showing them various possible cataclysm's on Earth. There is also the possibility that Alien's are communicating with us with the crop circles.

The above to me is a clear breach of any non interference policy and one that is only acted when it suits the desired group of Aliens. It would seem we are asked to walk a road which we are told we must walk alone to get to the desired destination, however any interference by them, i.e communicating with us, ships in the sky etc. This surley alters out path for good or bad.

Thoughts anyone?

Kind Regards.


The whole concept of STS and STO as it relates to one's own Spiritual Journey is spot on.

With respect to the aliens, bases portals and pretty much everything else.....

well....

To each their own.

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BLUEBONNET, Wow there is so much to look into. The bible says the world will end when cirtain things come to pass. Many of those things have already happened. But the temple of David has to be rebult. WW3 has to start. The new world order has to be in complete controll, so that we have a one world government. And a few more things have to happen. But for the most part most things are in place already. BUT, with all that looming over our head, it can all be stoped or at least lessened or put off for a long time if all the people of the world repent of their sins and simply pray to GOD, no mater what name you know Him by. Mine is Jesus.
When they say the world is ending, they mean that the earth will flip over on it's side and the ocians will rush over the land. Land already racked with earthquakes, tornados, valcanos, wind, thunder and lightning.
But the meek will survive to inharet the earth! The war makers will be gone from the earth. So basicly it all depends on GOD!

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