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Author:  L2L [ Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:46 pm ]
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Selene wrote:
ATTENTION PREPPERS - Having More Than 7 Days Of Food Makes You A Suspected Terrorist

This is simply breathtaking, a must-watch. Bill 1867, presently before Congress, would strip the U.S. Constitution of the last remnants of the Bill of Rights – making it possible to arrest a U.S. citizen – and hold them without trial on “suspicion of terrorism” for 1) stocking more than 7 days of food, 2) owning waterproof ammunition, or even 3) having a missing finger (!)

And now that it’s “legal” to imprison Americans outside the U.S. (aka Guantanamo or the gulag) that means you can be “disappeared” to a Siberia with all the due process of a Stalininst reign of terror.

Hitler himself was never this bold.

Here is Senator Rand Paul (as well as some good commentary):

Mods, can you repair this link? I can't figure it out...
Edit by L2L to fix link

My American nephew was born with a hand defect; do I now need to fear for his life?

:candle :candle :candle


Author:  fr33kSh0w2012 [ Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:25 pm ]
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So Your Telling me that if I do my fortnightly grocery shop I'm a Terrorist 'Eh Well I better start wearing a tea towel over my head and speaking with a Thick Egyptian accent.

Author:  Sky [ Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:58 am ]
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That's so funny fr33k!

I am with you on this one completely - the world is sure going crazy :crazy

Author:  rutsuyasun [ Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:09 am ]
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So much of what appears (though huge efforts are made to hide these "laws") in Congress, or by executive order, or through DHS,etc. is mirrored, or presaged through "entertainment" media. Much talk is made of the UFO movies, of disaster shows and movies, survival shows, etc. but there are other, not so obvious attempts to accustom us to thinking a certain way. One of these is the TV show "Hoarders".... the purpose I believe is to make us think of a "hoarder" as somebody who has a mental illness that needs to be treated, and who in some cases loses the right to live as s/he wishes. Their home can be condemned and their goods confiscated (thrown in the garbage). So if we read of somebody in our community who has been hoarding, we (they hope) will categorize them as "misfits" or sickos.

Another aspect of the word "hoarder" harks back to WWII when it was not patriotic to "hoard" food, and when there was rationing. Anybody hoarding was anathema to others who were struggling to get by on rations, but more important hoarders were harming the country and taking away from our soldiers. This is another angle they can use when they want to inspect our "stores" of provisions. Lordy, they would lock me away and throw away the key! Oops, maybe I shouldn't say that on the internets..... beam me up Scotty, this world is going mad.

Author:  L2L [ Sun Dec 04, 2011 1:20 pm ]
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That's a great analysis Ruts what you say rings very true to me, too bad most sheep cannot see through the BS :roll :crazy :doh

Author:  Sky [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:41 am ]
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Also fully agree with you Ruts.

It makes the rule or attempt to be mindfull of potential threats to survival in being "Self sufficient" and wrong doing. Completely counter to how preparedness may be an asset to the population.

Smacks of mind set influence!! :flame

Author:  fr33kSh0w2012 [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:30 am ]
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Yep can't argue with that! you get the sheep, why can't the blockheads see between the lines Like I and others can. I lost complete faith in humanity LONG AGO and lost ALL Faith in "God" because of this. You see all those spiritual Midgets mindlessly consuming off the golden teat of the diseased "elite" all the "elite bankers" are are a bunch of pretentious old men playing at "lets ru(i)n the world again"

I'm getting quite sick of this BS the dumba$$ "elite" can cram it fair up their cotton candied A :censor holes for all I care

The elites and The power that Never were are::

Author:  Leorising [ Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:31 am ]
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Thought this was interesting.... beware..... ... terrorists

Preppers Are Now Considered To Be Potential Terrorists?
If you and your family store up lots of food, will you be identified as "potential terrorists" by law enforcement authorities? That sounds like an insane question, but sadly it has gotten to the point where "preparing for the worst" has become a "suspicious activity". Today, there are millions of preppers all across the United States, and the vast majority of them just want to be left alone and do not want the government to interfere in their lives. Storing up food is a completely peaceful activity, and preppers are generally some of the most patriotic and law-abiding people that you could ever hope to meet. Unfortunately, prepping has become associated with "extremism" by many in the government, and lately we have seen some very disturbing signs that authorities are actively seeking to gather information on preppers. So are preppers now considered to be potential terrorists? Well, read the evidence posted in the rest of this article and decide for yourself.

The other day, U.S. Senator Rand Paul gave a speech on the floor of the U.S. Senate during which he suggested that having "more than seven days of food" in your house could potentially get you branded as a "potential terrorist" by the federal government. The following is an excerpt from that speech....

Know good and well that some day there could be a government in power that is shipping its citizens off for disagreements. There are laws on the books now that characterize who might be a terrorist.

Someone missing fingers on their hands is a suspect according to the Department of Justice. Someone who has guns, someone who has ammunition that is weatherproofed, someone who has more than seven days of food in their house can be considered a potential terrorist.

If you are suspected by these activities do you want the government to have the ability to send you to Guantanamo Bay for indefinite detention?
You can see video of this speech right here. It is incredibly chilling to hear a defender of liberty such as Rand Paul warn of such things.

But just because a politician says something that does not always mean that it is true.

So is there any evidence that Americans that are storing up food are being watched by the federal government?

Unfortunately, there is. In fact, Oath Keepers has posted a report about one incident in which federal agents actually visited a food production facility and demanded the names of anyone that has been "purchasing bulk food". The following come from an article about this incident that was recently written by Rand Cardwell, the president of the Tennessee chapter of the Oath Keepers....

A fellow veteran contacted me concerning a new and disturbing development. He had been utilizing a Mormon cannery near his home to purchase bulk food supplies. The man that manages the facility related to him that federal agents had visited the facility and demanded a list of individuals that had been purchasing bulk food. The manager informed the agents that the facility kept no such records and that all transactions were conducted on a cash-and-carry basis. The agents pressed for any record of personal checks, credit card transactions, etc., but the manager could provide no such record. The agents appeared to become very agitated and after several minutes of questioning finally left with no information. I contacted the manager and personally confirmed this information.
Why in the world would federal agents be so interested in Americans that are "purchasing bulk food"?

Don't they have anything better to do?

As I have written about previously, authorities are also now using a tool developed by the CDC to conduct "door to door disaster preparedness assessments" in some areas of the United States.

The following comes from a local news report in Tennessee....

The Metro Public Health and the Tennessee Department of Health will be using a tool designed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to go door to door and check to see how disaster ready you are.

The door to door assessment will take place from 3:30 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. Thursday and from 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. Friday. It will be in 30 neighborhoods in Davidson County that have been randomly selected to be the target of a door to door assessment.
I don't know about you, but I don't want anyone coming to my door to "assess" how "prepared" I am.

This is all very, very disturbing.

Lately, the federal government seems absolutely obsessed with the distribution of food.

As author Brandon Turbeville noted recently, "the U.S. government has publicly raided organic food shops, raw milk distributors, and the Amish with guns drawn" in recent years.

Aren't there bigger threats to national security than the Amish?

Unfortunately, we now live in a "Big Brother" police state where just about anything can be considered a "suspicious activity".

In fact, according to the FBI a bulk purchase of "meals ready to eat" is now considered to be "suspicious activity" that should be reported to them.

When the "war on terror" started a decade ago, we were told that we needed to fight the terrorists "over there" so that they would not come over here.

Well, now we are being told that the United States itself is part of the "battleground" and that the "terrorists" might just be our neighbors.

We are being told that if we "see something" that we should "say something" to the government.

In essence, the federal government wants us all to "inform" on one another.

Now that most of the big name terrorists have been removed from the picture, the Obama administration and the mainstream media are really hyping the idea that "homegrown terrorism" is a grave danger.

Just check out these headlines from the past few days....

ABC News: "White House Unveils New Strategy to Fight Homegrown Terrorism"

USA Today: "White House unveils new strategy to combat homegrown terror"

CNN: "Measuring the homegrown terrorist threat to U.S. military"

The entire focus of the "war on terror" has shifted. According to FBI Director Robert Mueller, "homegrown terrorists" represent as big a threat to American national security as al-Qaeda does at this point.

America is rapidly changing, and not for the better. All of this paranoia is going to rip this country apart.

In addition, have you noticed how they have taken the word "Islamic" out of their description of the terrorists and have replaced it with words like "extremist" and "extremism"?

Well, the truth is that just about anyone can be considered an "extremist" in one sense or another.

In fact, a recent Salon article asked this question: "Are Evangelicals A National Security Threat?"

These days, if you support an "alternative" political candidate there is a good chance that you will be labeled as an extremist.

During the 2008 election, one law enforcement report identified supporters of presidential candidates Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr as potential terrorists.

Today, if you have a religious or political ideology that differs from the "orthodoxy" of the federal government then you are probably considered to be an "extremist".

Beliefs that were once considered normal are now considered to be "dangerous" and "radical".

For example, one unclassified Department of Homeland Security report published a couple of years ago entitled "Right-wing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment" claimed that a belief in Bible prophecy "could motivate extremist individuals and groups to stockpile food, ammunition and weapons."

During a Congressional hearing earlier this year, U.S. Representative Sheila Jackson Lee warned that "Christian militants" might try to "bring down the country" and that such groups need to be investigated.

Back on February 20, 2009, the State of Missouri issued a report entitled "MIAC Strategic Report: The Modern Militia Movement". That report warned that the following types of people may be potential terrorists....

*anti-abortion activists

*those that are against illegal immigration

*those that consider "the New World Order" to be a threat

*those that have a negative view of the United Nations

As I have written about previously, a very revealing document obtained by Oath Keepers shows that the FBI is actually instructing store owners to report many new forms of "suspicious activity" to them.

So what does the FBI consider "suspicious activity" to include? According to the document, the FBI now considers "suspicious activity" to include the following....

*paying with cash

*missing a hand or fingers

*"strange odors"

*making "extreme religious statements"

*"radical theology"

*purchasing weatherproofed ammunition or match containers

*purchasing meals ready to eat

*purchasing night vision devices, night flashlights or gas masks

All of this is completely and totally ridiculous.

Law enforcement authorities should quit worrying about preppers. The vast majority of us that are preparing for the hard times that are coming truly love this country, are completely and totally non-violent, and just want to be left alone.

There are real threats to national security out there, but the federal government refuses to address them. For example, our border with Mexico is wide open and it has been documented that terror groups are working in northern Mexico and have been coming across the border on a regular basis.

But instead of securing the border, the Obama administration is granting "backdoor amnesty" to illegal aliens instead.

In addition, law enforcement authorities should look into the massive breach of national security that the "Fast and Furious" scandal represents. With the full knowledge of the Department of Justice, ATF agents facilitated the sale of thousands of guns to Mexican drug cartels and dropped all surveillance on those weapons once they crossed the border. Those guns will be used to kill people (including Americans) for many years to come.

In fact, there is so much corruption and so many "potential terrorists" in Washington D.C. that it should be more than enough to keep law enforcement officials busy for a very long time.

So leave preppers alone.

Preppers are not a threat. They are not going to hurt anyone. They just want to store up food and prepare for the difficult times that are coming.


Author:  Bluebonnet [ Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:41 am ]
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Thanks, Leo. Very thoughtful.

Note that Oathkeepers now states that their informant is denying the "raid" took place at the food pantry. Interesting, that, no?

I don't really know what to make of all of this. Yes, I keep my prepping quiet primarily because I began prepping for avian influenza and hurricanes. My neighbors all know we have a stash of food because they do, too! ;)

I don't think it is anyone's business what I choose to do with my money. I also make sure I never buy large quantities of anything. I also don't purchase "survival food" on line to be shipped to my home. :nono

Wonder how those folks on the TV show Extreme Couponing feel about this? :huh

Author:  Sky [ Sun Dec 18, 2011 5:16 am ]
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That's funny Blue - as we have seen a few shows on cable on Extreme Couponing!! Those folks sure have a serious problem to convince the gubment otherwise if they get put into the terrorist category!

Maybe that's Big Corporate takinn evasive action on them!!


Author:  L2L [ Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:06 pm ]
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Sky wrote:

Maybe that's Big Corporate takinn evasive action on them!!


I think you hit the nail on the head my friend :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap

Author:  fr33kSh0w2012 [ Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:38 pm ]
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L2L wrote:
Sky wrote:

Maybe that's Big Corporate takinn evasive action on them!!


I think you hit the nail on the head my friend :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap

Big Corpulent you mean? greasy Corporate scumbag Pigs!

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