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Author:  Shady Groves [ Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:03 pm ]
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The Vatican joins the search for alien life - Telegraph

By Tom Chivers
Published: 10:20AM GMT 10 Nov 2009

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/spac ... life.html#


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The Pontifical Academy of Sciences is holding a conference on astrobiology, the study of life beyond Earth, with scientists and religious leaders gathering in Rome this week.

For centuries, theologians have argued over what the existence of life elsewhere in the universe would mean for the Church: at least since Giordano Bruno, an Italian monk, was put to death by the Inquisition in 1600 for claiming that other worlds exist.



Among other things, extremely alien-looking aliens would be hard to fit with the idea that God “made man in his own image”.

Furthermore, Jesus Christ’s role as saviour would be confused: would other worlds have their own, tentacled Christ-figures, or would Earth’s Christ be universal?

However, just as the Church eventually made accommodations after Copernicus and Galileo showed that the Earth was not the centre of the universe, and when it belatedly accepted the truth of Darwin's theory of evolution, Catholic leaders say that alien life can be aligned with the Bible’s teachings.

Father Jose Funes, a Jesuit astronomer at the Vatican Observatory and one of the organisers of the conference, said: "As a multiplicity of creatures exists on Earth, so there could be other beings, also intelligent, created by God.

"This does not conflict with our faith, because we cannot put limits on the creative freedom of God."

Not everyone agrees. Paul Davies, a theoretical physicist and author of The Goldilocks Enigma, told The Washington Post that the threat to Christianity is "being downplayed" by Church leaders. He said: "I think the discovery of a second genesis would be of enormous spiritual significance.

"The real threat would come from the discovery of extraterrestrial intelligence, because if there are beings elsewhere in the universe, then Christians, they're in this horrible bind.

"They believe that God became incarnate in the form of Jesus Christ in order to save humankind, not dolphins or chimpanzees or little green men on other planets."

The Academy conference will include presentations from scientists – by no means all of them Christians – on the discovery of planets outside our solar system, the geological record of early life on Earth, how life might have started on Earth, and whether “alien” life of a different biochemistry to our own might exist here without our knowing, among many other things.
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Author:  Shady Groves [ Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:09 pm ]
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I find it a bit ironic that Pope Benedict would call this conference into being. Pope Benedict aka Cardinal Ratzinger was the Leader of the "Holy Office of the Protection of the Faith" (former title of the office. "The Inquisition" So we have the Head Inquisition er calling for the conference that might re-write 2000 years of Catholic doctrine.

Author:  Leorising [ Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:35 pm ]
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Well, I guess that people are leaving the Church in droves, so they are looking for new recruits; remember how well they treated the indigenous peoples they have "converted" in the past on our own planet.... :flame

Leo

Author:  Shady Groves [ Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:56 pm ]
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You bring up a very interesting point the extermination/genocide/cultural genocide against indigenous cultures world wide and Europe and the America's in general.

I don't believe that "The Church" is the main gulity party but whom we label for a lack of a better term PTB's or Illuminati.

History shows us time and time again where ever indigenous cultures encounter the PTB's the powers that be set about to destroy that said culture, then hybridize, assumulate and then colonize it. Then they begin a mass shifting of the populations around. Example being Europe today which they are now flooding with Islamic and Arabs.

What they are really doing is destroying mankind's ancient knowledge of its origins and in the process re-writting 'history'' while they surpress that said ancient knowledge for their own use and benefit.


Leorising wrote:
Well, I guess that people are leaving the Church in droves, so they are looking for new recruits; remember how well they treated the indigenous peoples they have "converted" in the past on our own planet.... :flame

Leo

Author:  rutsuyasun [ Tue Jul 20, 2010 5:30 pm ]
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July 20, 2010
Vatican Prepares for ET: Can Religions Survive UFO Reality?

By Grant Lawrence

Bodhi Thunder


Father Funes, the Director of the Vatican Observatory, believes that the existence of Aliens would not be a contradiction with the Vatican faith.

This has created a bit of uproar among the faithful. But Funes says that if ET exists they are God's creatures.

Michael Salla, Ph.D. reports:

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...The Vatican’s new openness on extraterrestrial life is consistent with reports of secret discussions held at the United Nations that began in February 2008. The Vatican’s permanent representative to the UN, Archbishop Celestino Migliore, was reported to have attended along with a number of other prominent government officials to discuss increased UFO sightings and the implications of extraterrestrial visitation. Significantly, Migliore's position requires that he maintains close relations with the Vatican's Pontifical Academy of Sciences. At the time of the secret UN discussions, Migliore made a presentation on moral issues associated with scientific problems such as climate change. Most importantly, the UN discussions reportedly led to a new policy of openness being adopted by approximately 30 nations that would begin in 2009....
(source: examiner.com)

It seems to me the Vatican's new openness to the possibility of ET and the Vatican sponsored Astrobiology Conference where extra-terrestrial life was discussed, is a beginning acknowledgment of the Alien reality.

The Catholic Church would obviously have deep connections within government and intelligence agencies. They also have their own observatories. The Church would certainly be aware of the overwhelming number of reports and data collected regarding UFOs around the world.

From a business perspective, it would seem just good sense to be prepared for the inevitable. At some point, the existence of an Alien UFO reality will become acknowledged by nearly all of the world's population (with or without government disclosure).

The Vatican is right to prepare for such an understanding.

But such an understanding would certainly make for a drastic change in the way humanity views religion and spirituality. I am not sure if any traditional religion can be fully equipped to handle that shift in awareness.

Some, like traditional, fundamentalist sects of the various religions will portray, as they are doing now, the Aliens as demons. Others, like the more open minded religious sects, will work to incorporate the ET reality into their understanding without demonizing it.

Still I believe that an eventual understanding of the Alien reality will make for a transformation in understanding that few religions will be able to survive against. In short, humanity is already coming to a broader awareness of the universe and its life. Religion and spirituality has begun to transform from that understanding. The revolution in quantum physics and what that means for reality, the truth of humanity's interconnectedness and familial relationship with all of the animals, plants, and life of the earth, plus rapid technological innovation will mean that present religious understanding will have to radically transform or face a type of evolutionary extinction.

The religions of Buddhism and Hinduism are in a better position to survive this transformation in human consciousness, since much of their understanding entails it. But no spirituality or religion will be immune from the consequences of this radical shift in consciousness that will soon arrive. Perhaps this expanded consciousness will ultimately be the Aliens' gift to humanity.

http://grantlawrence.blogspot.com/2010/07/vatican.html

Author:  P.J. [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:54 pm ]
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Pope's Astronomer Would Baptize Aliens

One of the pope’s astronomers would happily baptize an alien if asked -- “no matter how many tentacles
it has.”

Guy Consolmagno, a trained astronomer and planetary scientist at the Vatican’s observatory, discussed a slew of topics at the British Science Festival in Birmingham last weekend, noting that the Vatican was more up to date with the latest scientific developments than most realized. “You’d be surprised,” he told the Guardian....

....Cosolmagno spoke at the science festival while the Pope was making his own visit to discuss science, which he called a complete coincidence.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/09/ ... ze-aliens/

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