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Author: | L2L [ Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:13 pm ] |
Post subject: | Volcano/Solar & Other Cooking Stoves |
I have got to get me one of these, what a cool stove for camping http://www.basiclifeessentials.com/heat.htm $149.95 |
Author: | L2L [ Sat Oct 30, 2010 2:04 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Volcano Stoves |
Here's another cool stove http://www.mredepot.com/servlet/the-687 ... ook/Detail $59.95 |
Author: | L2L [ Sat Oct 30, 2010 2:48 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Volcano Stoves |
Really cool Solar Oven http://www.sunoven.com/usa/locate-dealer.php |
Author: | L2L [ Sat Oct 30, 2010 3:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Volcano/Solar & Other Cokking Stoves |
I actually have one of these but in white and they are AWESOME for those of us that work full time and want a warm meal when we get home. Simply slap your meat, potatoes & veggies into it a few spices cover and put on slow cook. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FI ... B000FIP91W |
Author: | L2L [ Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:45 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Volcano/Solar & Other Cokking Stoves |
I was at my local Chinese Supermarket a few weeks ago and picked up one of these for $9.99, I also grabbed 4 Fuel Containers for $5.99. We used it over the weekend and let me tell ya although it's a cheap stove it heats up a pot of water in no time, I bet I could cut the time in half if I had a lid on the pot, really cool lil stove and light as a feather too http://chinajinyu.manufacturer.globalso ... -Stove.htm |
Author: | L2L [ Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Volcano/Solar & Other Cokking Stoves |
Got my Volcano Stove delivered today and was shocked at the weight of this thing, holy smokes it's heavy This is NO Cheap cook stove folks, I am thoroughly impressed with it and the carry case it comes in |
Author: | Sky [ Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:26 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Volcano/Solar & Other Cokking Stoves |
Found this review interesting: - Review: Volcano Stove II Posted: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 15:24:12 +0000 I’ve been interested in the Volcano II cook stove since reading about it in Backwoodsman magazine, so when Emergency Essentials offered to send me one for review, I jumped at the chance. Emergency Essentials had it deliver in less than a week. Very fast shipping. I like that. Waiting for five weeks for an order to be delivered is not my idea of a good time. This has never been the case with Emergency Essentials. Weighing in at over 20 pounds (with propane adapter) the Volcano Stove II was heavier than expected, it is a well-built unit but not one you would want to carry in a bug out bag, but that is fine, as it was never intended for such use. Where the Volcano II is most useful is as an emergency cooking source at home. With the ability to use several different fuel sources (wood, charcoal or propane with adapter and 20 lb tanks) it is versatile and well suited for it’s intended purpose. Breakfast is almost ready - now where did I put the bacon? Another great thing about this stove is that it isn’t one of those things you buy and put away for the when the shtf, it can be used everyday or on weekends while grilling at the park with family. Opening and closing the stove is easy, simply pull up on the handle and the stove pops open with the legs locked in place. To close the stove, lift up from the bottom and the stove folds in on itself, and the legs retract underneath for storage. You can grill right on the stove top, or use a skillet, griddle, pot, wok or 10-12” Dutch oven. Double wall construction minimizes heat transfer to the outside allowing use of the stove directly on any any surface such as a wooden table - you’ll notice I’m using the stove on top a sheet of plywood. Cleanup after using wood or charcoal is as simple as turning the stove over and shaking the remnants out and wiping down with cooking oil to prevent rust. When using propane you just have to let the unit cool and apply a coating of cooking oil before putting it away - in either case clean up isn’t a bother. Overall, I think the Volcano II is a great cooking unit and one of the better choices on the market. Snip I like it! |
Author: | L2L [ Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:20 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Volcano/Solar & Other Cokking Stoves |
Thanks for posting that Sky |
Author: | Sky [ Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:09 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Volcano/Solar & Other Cokking Stoves |
I have written the guys at the manufacturers to ask if they would ship one to me in SA from the US. No answers yet! Maybe they consider it too heavy for international transport. It would be a pity though. I have a barbeque made from SS which is almost similar in heat properties, as it retains its energy and will cook anything. It just don't have the gas adapter option. Maybe I will just have to buy a burner for it. It is so heavy though, it ain't portable - |
Author: | L2L [ Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:46 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Volcano/Solar & Other Cokking Stoves |
If your US supplier won't ship it to you we can try my Canadian one Sky It really is a slick little stove, I can see this thing lasting a VERY long time in heavy use! |
Author: | Siam [ Fri Nov 19, 2010 5:36 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Volcano/Solar & Other Cokking Stoves |
Humm I am wondering about ordering one, it's that good L?? |
Author: | L2L [ Fri Nov 19, 2010 5:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Volcano/Solar & Other Cokking Stoves |
Siam wrote: Humm I am wondering about ordering one, it's that good L?? Siam if you do any kind of charcoil cooking this stove is the cats ass for that And YES it really is that good |
Author: | Sky [ Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:07 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Volcano/Solar & Other Cokking Stoves |
Ha ha - it's pricey in our currency, but I know quality puchases always leave you smiling. I asked the US team to send me a purchase order so I can pay the bill! Will definitely let you know if I need help. Thanks! |
Author: | L2L [ Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Volcano/Solar & Other Cooking Stoves |
Here is a cool little oven http://stockstorage.com/grover_oven.html |
Author: | Sky [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:25 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Volcano/Solar & Other Cooking Stoves |
Now that looks real useful! It does look like I could possibly make one from an old LP gas bottle? Kewl - L2L One could even just put legs on it, and place it over an open fire... |
Author: | Grist von Zweifel [ Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:40 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Volcano/Solar & Other Cooking Stoves |
Thought this might interest you. This "institutional" sized stove can of course be downsized and i think there might be some links on this page to smaller units to construct from food cans, paint tins and small pieces of vent piping. I thought I had an instructive (actual engineering drawings) link online, but have done something brilliant with it. And the engineering and design is quite simple in tolerances and measures. Let me show this one in hand and then the YouTube instructions on how to build. There's lots of options for construction for nothing or nearly nothing outlayed. Might consider that in times of trouble you could build for your neighbors or as a trade good. Rocket stoves are marvelous in that they are very stingy with fuel. Usually only a few wood scraps or twigs to boil a quart (liters) of water, fry eggs and bacon, etc. Also with very little smoke if you don't wish to prep a meal terribly publicly. Well worth a look. http://www.rocketstove.org/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeKcb-Fw-bo&feature=related Home cookin's the best; wherever home is. Grist |
Author: | Sky [ Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:09 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Volcano/Solar & Other Cooking Stoves |
Thanks for posting that Grist. I actually fell over that same link on the weekend and made up my mind I am building on of these devices in my new outside kitchen I am constructing at the back of the farm house. The Rocket Stove concept is very cool as you state - it consumes close to a 100% of the fuel content through stoichiometric process and produces no smoke and only clean waste. I copied some cool stuff ov the Rocket Stove, which I think I should poste here maybe, as it is well usefull! |
Author: | Sky [ Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:15 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Volcano/Solar & Other Cooking Stoves |
Rocket Stove Principles Dr. Larry Winiarski Technical Director - Aprovecho Research Center 1.) Insulate, particularly the combustion chamber, with low mass, heat resistant materials in order to keep the fire as hot as possible and not to heat the higher mass of the stove body. 2.) Within the stove body, above the combustion chamber, use an insulated, upright chimney of a height that is about two or three times the diameter before extracting heat to any surface (griddle, pots, etc.). 3.) Heat only the fuel that is burning (and not too much). Burn the tips of sticks as they enter the combustion chamber, for example. The object is NOT to produce more gasses or charcoal than can be cleanly burned at the power level desired. 4.) Maintain a good air velocity through the fuel. The primary Rocket stove principle and feature is using a hot, insulated, vertical chimney within the stove body that increases draft. 5.) Do not allow too much or too little air to enter the combustion chamber. We strive to have stoichiometric (chemically ideal) combustion: in practice there should be the minimum excess of air supporting clean burning. 6.) The cross sectional area (perpendicular to the flow) of the combustion chamber should be sized within the range of power level of the stove. Experience has shown that roughly twenty-five square inches will suffice for home use (four inches in diameter or five inches square). Commercial size is larger and depends on usage. 7.) Elevate the fuel and distribute airflow around the fuel surfaces. When burning sticks of wood, it is best to have several sticks close together, not touching, leaving air spaces between them. Particle fuels should be arranged on a grate. 8.) Arrange the fuel so that air largely flows through the glowing coals. Too much air passing above the coals cools the flames and condenses oil vapours. 9.) Throughout the stove, any place where hot gases flow, insulate from the higher mass of the stove body, only exposing pots, etc. to direct heat. 10.) Transfer the heat efficiently by making the gaps as narrow as possible between the insulation covering the stove body and surfaces to be heated but do this without choking the fire. Estimate the size of the gap by keeping the cross sectional area of the flow of hot flue gases constant. EXCEPTION: When using a external chimney or fan the gaps can be substantially reduced as long as adequate space has been left at the top of the internal short chimney for the gasses to turn smoothly and distribute evenly. This is tapering of the manifold. In a common domestic griddle stove with external chimney, the gap under the griddle can be reduced to about one half inch for optimum heat transfer. And here is an informative site giving video tutorials on how to construct one!! http://www.richsoil.com/rocket-stove-mass-heater.jsp Hehe! I am in! |
Author: | Grist von Zweifel [ Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:16 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Volcano/Solar & Other Cooking Stoves |
You've taken it to the next level Sky. LOL Super Rocket... omg, next you'll be smelting metal to make your own cookware. There's another trick we sailors use to reduce our fuel expenditures. It is fairly easy to engineer using a quality pressure cooker and a wooden box stuffed with straw and wire to create an insulated vessel, whereby food and water in the pressure cooker is brought to a fast boil and as soon as boiling under pressure is taken off the heat and placed in the well insulated cooker box. Straw packed into a box that will fit the cooker and a tight fitting straw filled lid so that the entire vessel is nestled tightly. Then over the ensuing hours within the pressure cooker in the insulation and the food coming back to serving temperature (coasting if you will) in the super insulated box the meal has been completely cooked quite delightfully. I think likely your home is not starved for fuels to prepare meals, coffee/teas and perhaps soups by way of such a method, but onboard sailing vessels it's not uncommon to prepare all or most of the day's meals with the first watch's kitchen duties and before heading into the wind or onto a mixed sea or rough weather, both for economies and safety. I think you've got a great idea for your outdoor kitchen and think it's a grand idea in any environment with a warm season. Who needs to live with kitchen heat and smells through the night? Thanks for the upgrade. Great stuff that. Pressure cookers are magical instruments allowing one to bake bread on top of a stove as well if you're feeling a little adventurous. |
Author: | Sky [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:57 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Volcano/Solar & Other Cooking Stoves |
Your so right Grist - I am already melting lead and casting round balls for my muzzle loader. I am an avid target shooter for accuracy! So my heat sources are precious and I love my environment without having to burn down the forrest I live in! The more we share - the more we learn. I like your straw information and pressure cookers are so useful. My wife has one almost pasted to her hip, she is an avid preserver! I want to experiment with solar cookers too. We have good sun at 30 lat! The price of our electricity has doubled in the past four years! |
Author: | L2L [ Sat Mar 05, 2011 8:36 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Volcano/Solar & Other Cooking Stoves |
Cheap efficient and easy to make for a BOB. |
Author: | UncleJohn [ Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:44 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Volcano/Solar & Other Cooking Stoves |
Uncle John here: See: http://solarcooking.org/plans/DSPC-Cooker.htm All you need is to print out these instructions and buy a box of wide aluminum foil and a can of black spray paint (less than $5). Save and clean several one quart glass jars with lids that many foods come in and some used cardboard (cost nothing). |
Author: | L2L [ Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:58 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Volcano/Solar & Other Cooking Stoves |
Thats a neat & simple concept UJ thanks |
Author: | Sky [ Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:21 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Volcano/Solar & Other Cooking Stoves |
Snap Uncle John - the best design I have ever seen! Staright into my library and I am training my students with this NEXT weeK already! Siyabonga gakhulu! |
Author: | UncleJohn [ Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Volcano/Solar & Other Cooking Stoves |
Sky wrote: Snap Uncle John - the best design I have ever seen! Staright into my library and I am training my students with this NEXT weeK already! Siyabonga gakhulu! Uncle John here: You made me think of something Sky. Add a short plastic tube to the kit and one could make a self power atomizer. Wow. Without power my digital volcano will not work. |
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