I am sure there is more to this story than what we know now but I mean is it really nessasry to riot over speculation?

Can you imagine what these a-holes will do IF we do get hit with real hard times like what is predicted

I do NOT have ANY guns to protect my family so I fear for us.
I WILL be able to stop the first 5 or 6 that come to my door but after that I fear I will be overcome

Authorities Detonate Explosive Found Near Headless Man

Updated 5:04 PM CDT, Tue, Sep 14, 2010

A man walking his dog Tuesday morning discovered a body that had been decapitated by a "garden variety" explosive near a middle school in Evanston. Another unexploded device lying near the body has since been detonated by authorities.

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The shirtless and headless man, who has been identified by police but not announced publicly, was discovered near Nichols Middle School, at 800 Greenleaf St. in Evanston.

read the rest here:
Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-be ... z0zYONJwUx

72 Migrants Massacred in Northern Mexico
The scale of last week's event was unprecedented, however, its sad and horrific details are not uncommon.
September 2, 2010 |

Last week, Mexican authorities discovered the bodies of 72 migrants from Central and South America who were kidnapped on their way to the United States and brutally shot and left to die in a remote, abandoned ranch near a small town in northeastern Mexico. Eighteen-year-old Luis Freddy Lala Pomavilla, one of two survivors of the massacre who managed to escape and lead authorities to the crime scene, claims that he and his fellow U.S.-bound migrants were kidnapped by the Zetas drug cartel and told they would either have to pay a ransom or work as drug couriers and hit men. When most refused, they were reportedly "blindfolded, ordered to lie down and shot." Meanwhile, escalated violence has made it harder to carry out a swift and thorough investigation.

con. http://www.alternet.org/world/148059/72 ... ern_mexico

6 dead, 12 injured from shooting, Giffords condition unknown

Posted: Jan 8, 2011 12:15 PM
Updated: Jan 8, 2011 12:21 PM

TUCSON - Sources tell News 4 that 13 people are shot, including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, and six people are dead after a man opened fire at a northside political event held by the Tucson congresswoman.

No confirmation on Giffords' condition at this time, but sources at the scene confirm that the shooter is in custody. It happened at the shopping center at Ina and Oracle this morning.

Law enforcement agencies confirm that the FBI is now handling this investigation

http://www.kvoa.com/news/6-dead-12-inju ... n-unknown/
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The hospital said a 9-year-old child was among the killed, and a federal judge was also fatally shot.

Federal officials told NBC News that U.S. District Court Judge John M. Roll had died from injuries suffered in the attack. He was the chief judge in Arizona, appointed in 1991 by the first President Bush.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40978517/ns/politics/

Deadly school shooting in Brazil
Former student opens fire in school in Rio de Janeiro, killing 12 people before taking his own life, authorities say.

A man believed to be a former student has opened fire in a school in the city of Rio de Janeiro, killing 12 people and wounding 22 others before taking his own life, authorities said.

The victims included students and staff at the public school in the western Realengo neighbourhood.

Full article here

Crumbs ruts - how crazy!!

One wonders if these events are committed by individuals that have had their brains scrambled on drugs?? A helluva thing to do!

Police: island shooter fired for 90 minutes

OSLO, Norway (AP) -- Norwegian police say a gunman fired at youths on an island retreat for 1 1/2 hours before surrendering to police, and that it took them 40 minutes to reach the island after they were called.

That shooting spree came just hours after an explosion at a government building in Oslo on Friday. Police Chief Sveinung Sponheim said Saturday that blast was caused by a car bomb.

At least 87 people were killed on the island; nother seven died in the earlier bombing.

con. here:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/ ... 2-22-06-19



Norway attacks - as it happened ... ( short excerpts)

• Seven killed by bomb in Oslo
• "Several" killed by gunman at youth conference in Utoya
• Gunman arrested in Utoya

* Several people have been injured in a large explosion which has damaged government buildings in central Oslo, including the office of the Norwegian prime minster.

* 4.05pm: ABC News reports that the "was [the] result of a massive vehicle bomb, according to US government sources on the scene".

* 5.11pm: Police are now saying 15 people are confirmed injured, says the BBC. They are telling people to leave the centre of Oslo and warning there could be more explosions.

* 5.16pm: Neil Perry in Oslo just sent me this worrying development. I'll try to get more details:



Lots more here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/20 ... e-coverage



More on bombing, shooting

Norway Shooting, Explosion: 92 Killed, Suspect Charged

July 23, 2011

People in Norway are in shock today after a man dressed as a police officer is suspected of shooting and killing at least 85 at a summer youth camp Friday, just hours after setting off an explosion in nearby Oslo that killed seven.



Con. http://abcnews.go.com/International/nor ... d=14141571

Is the Oslo Gunman Really Right-Wing?

.... Anders Behring Breivik .... has been labeled “extreme right wing,” but is that really the fairest designation given what we know thus far?

According to several outlets, Breivik identified with some conservative causes. But the more one digs, the more one finds that Anders Behring Breivik holds the views of a racist, bigoted, zealot that really can’t be fit into a neat box.

..... Breivik has a Facebook and Twitter account that he set up a mere few days ago on July 17, where he identifies himself as a Christian and a conservative. There are several reports of his anti-Muslim views.

..... The man responsible for the massacre in Norway was a member of a Swedish nazi forum which encourages attacks on government buildings.

.... Behring Breivik is a member of ‘Nordisk’ which has 22,000 members and focuses on political terrorism.
His Facebook profile also listed interests such as body-building and freemasonry.

Full article with more facts and analysis here: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/is-the- ... ight-wing/

3 Guard members killed in Nevada IHOP rampage
By SANDRA CHEREB , 09.07.11, 12:02 PM EDT

CARSON CITY, Nev. --

Residents of a sleepy state capital say they woke up Wednesday to a small town that's lost its innocence after a mass shooting in an IHOP restaurant that left four people and the shooter dead and injured seven others.

Just before 9 a.m. Tuesday, gunman Eduardo Sencion stepped onto the Carson City pancake house parking lot from his blue minivan with a yellow "Support Our Troops" sticker on it.

He opened fire, then continued into the restaurant and marched toward a table of uniformed National Guard members before shooting each one, and fatally wounding three of them, authorities said.

con. here: http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2011/09/ ... 62883.html

Ohio high school shooting leaves 5 wounded; gunman in custody


February 27, 2012, 8:39 a.m.
Five students were shot when a gunman opened fire at an Ohio high school Monday morning, authorities reported. The gunman was quickly taken into custody.

The shooter was apparently chased from the building and surrendered, Geauga County Sheriff Dan McClelland told reporters in a televised news conference outside Chardon High School about 30 miles east of Cleveland.

Early reports suggested that the gunman was also a student, though officials were still investigating.

con. http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nati ... 9164.story


1 dead in Ohio school shooting; Suspect detained

CHARDON, Ohio - A gunman opened fire inside a high school cafeteria at the start of the school day Monday, killing one student and wounding four others, authorities said. A suspect — believed to be a student — was arrested a short distance away.

FBI agent Scott Wilson said there was one suspected shooter. He wouldn't discuss the extent of the students' injuries.

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The Geauga County Sheriff's Office said that the suspect turned himself in after being chased out of the school by a teacher, CBS News reports. FBI Special Agent Vicki Anderson said Monday the shooter was taken into custody near his car about half a mile away from the high school.

con. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-573 ... -detained/

2nd victim dead after Ohio school shooting

CHARDON, Ohio - A student wounded in an Ohio school shooting has been declared brain dead, authorities said Tuesday, the second reported fatality in an attack that began when a teenager opened fire in the cafeteria at a suburban Cleveland high school a day earlier.

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An education official said the suspected shooter is a Lake Academy student, not a student at Chardon High. Brian Bontempo declined to answer any questions about the student. Bontempo is the superintendent of the Lake County Educational Service Center, which operates the academy.

The alternative school in Willoughby serves 7th through 12th grades. Students may have been referred to the school because of academic or behavioral problems.

con. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-573 ... ontentBody

On the news it said that one of the teachers "grabbed his bulletproof vest" and ran out of the classroom, chasing the shooter from the school. One of the students who was injured in the shooting reported that the shooter "had no expression on his face. It was as if he were on a mission."

The Ohio school shooting and missed warning signs on Twitter
By Janice D'Arcy

Today’s monstrous story of several students shot and at least one killed at an Ohio high school this morning has precedence — both in its brutality and its warning signs.

The shooter, reportedly an outsider who had complained of being bullied, had apparently tweeted that morning that he would bring a gun to school. No one, apparently, took the tweet seriously.

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Facebook Message on Ohio School Shooter’s Profile: ‘Die, All of You’

The suspect in a school shooting near Cleveland posted a macabre, ominous message on his Facebook wall months ago, closing with the sentence “Die, all of you.”

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The Facebook message alluding to death was posted Dec. 30, 2011. The message appears to be a poem or lyrics to a song, describing a man with no belongings or family advancing on a “castle,” which he describes as “Lucifer’s Laboratory.” The man then apparently destroys the castle and kills its occupants.

con. http://mashable.com/2012/02/27/ohio-sch ... -facebook/

CNN is reporting that one of the students targeted in the shooting had just started dating "an ex-girlfriend" of the shooter. Just a one sentence statement, nothing more on that mentioned in any news stories.

This hurts my heart - again!

What is wrong with the US society that we have so very many angry young men who are so willing to kill their fellow classmates?

School used to be a safe place - not any more.


Third student dies in Ohio school shooting
By the CNN Wire Staff

Chardon, Ohio (CNN) -- A third student has died of wounds suffered in a shooting at a high school in Chardon, Ohio, hospital officials said Tuesday.

Demetrius Hewlin died Tuesday morning, MetroHealth Medical Center said in a statement.

Russell King Jr., 17, was declared brain dead early Tuesday, according to the Cuyahoga County medical examiner's office.

The first victim, student Daniel Parmertor died on Monday.

"We are very saddened by the loss of our son and others in our Chardon community," Hewlin's family said in a statement released by the hospital. "Demetrius was a happy young man who loved life and his family and friends. We will miss him very much, but we are proud that he will be able to help others through organ donation."

Read more here: http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/28/justice/ohio-school-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

GEES I wonder why? this is why ALL GUNS should be destroyed ***NO EXEPTION***

Actually, Freak, as an American I totally disagree.

We have more than adequate gun laws in this country. Sadly, too many of them are not locked up so young people can't get to them.

Adults purchase guns and adults are responsible when a child takes a gun to school.

Ohio School Shooting: Are Parents to Blame?
We cannot talk about school violence without recognizing where the violence was conceived and nurtured: at home
By Erika Christakis and Nicholas A. Christakis | February 28, 2012 | 121inShare15

In Seattle, the 9-year-old boy who brought a gun to school and seriously injured a classmate when it accidentally discharged in his backpack was released on bail, after he appeared in court wearing an orange jumpsuit, in tears.

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But our focus on the word school — and even on whether the shooter was bullied by classmates, as it appears was the case in Ohio — obscures a key issue. The shooters didn’t get their guns at school. The guns weren’t fashioned in wood shop. The guns came from home, and they were obtained by adults.

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But we rarely talk honestly about what can happen during the other eight-ninths of their waking and even sleeping hours. Children arrive at school poorly nourished and too fatigued to work. They spend too much time on television and too little on exercise. They are poorly socialized in ways that inhibit learning and kindness. They also bring unsecured weapons to school and use them on innocent people, including, sometimes, themselves.

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But children are being injured and killed through the shameful negligence of the adults who are responsible for them. Roughly one-third of households with children report owning at least one gun. Forty-three percent of these homes report keeping firearms in an unlocked place, while only 39% of these homes keep the guns locked, unloaded and separate from ammunition, as recommended by the American Academy of Pediatrics and many gun-safety advocates. Nationally, approximately 1.7 million children live in homes with loaded and unlocked firearms. And 90% of fatal firearm shootings of children ages 0 to 14 occur in the home.

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Children between ages 5 and 14 are 13 times more likely to die from an accidental firearm accident in the four states with the highest gun ownership than in the four states with the lowest gun ownership. Among children under 5, they are 17 times more likely. This suggests the obvious: the availability of guns is a risk factor for accidental firearm death. But we have more concern about children who bring peanuts to school than we do about bullets.

We are not saying that every time a kid does something wrong, a parent must be held responsible or be blamed. But a system that focuses its attention for kids’ failings everywhere but at home is equally blind. We hold hosts liable when a driver drinks at their home and kills someone while driving drunk. Having an unlocked, loaded gun in a home with a child under 16 should be a crime.

Read more: http://ideas.time.com/2012/02/28/ohio-school-shooting-why-parents-are-to-blame/#ixzz1nixsqrjc

Amen - couldn't have said it better myself.

The guns in my home all (every last single one) have locks on the trigger. The keys are kept in a secret location. All ammunition and clips are kept in a safe.

My 5 grandchildren can not ever shoot someone with a gun taken from my home. Period!

That is responsible gun ownership.

Gun ownership in Australia is 100% illegal bluebonnet and that is a good thing no more people (with guns) killing people.

Although I am NOT technically a pro guns guy like most of my southern friends, I do believe that guns do not kill people, PEOPLE kill people.

And your argument that guns are illegal is not valid freak becasue the black market is just as alive in Auz as it is here in North America and you know that!

The Black Market is much more dangerous than ANY Laws passed by ANY Country so if criminals want to get a gun and shoot someone they will

Well L2L i actually didn't know that!

I must say i was a little naive on that one (thought it only happened in the usa) so thanks for letting me know, L2L I was saying just as you said people killing people (with guns) i'm definately a pro life, anti-war type of guy.

Well said L2L - it certainly is people that kill people when guns are involved.

Poor attitude and lack of skill is the biggest cause.

In South Africa - the guns legislation has changed dramatically in recent years.

You cannot own more than 4 different types of guns. You cannot use a gun without a license or a certificate of competency. All weapons must be in a safe at all times whilst not in use. This has allowed the negligent accidents reduce to almost nil. We are still a gun wealthy nation, but these are guns in illicite use or unlicensed hands - which has made it the job of the law to now act and control (and of which I shall say nothing - as we have one of the highest murder rates in the world!!!)

Two killed and seven wounded in Pennsylvania psychiatric clinic shooting

Two people were killed and seven others wounded Thursday when a man opened fire inside a psychiatric institute in Pittsburgh.

The shooter was one of the dead, police said. All seven of those injured are expected to "survive and do well,"

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The gunman walked through the front entrance of the Western Psychiatric Institute and Clinic, known as Western Psych, at approximately 1:40pm local time, carrying two semi-automatic hand guns, Pittsburgh Mayor Luke Ravenstahl said at a press conference Thursday afternoon.

Multiple shots were fired on the first floor, Ravenstahl said, adding that authorities believe the gunman acted alone.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/a ... z1oa6CUCHQ

Going back to the Ohio school shooting for a minute, from what I have read about the shooter, he was not receiving any mental health treatment, which would seem to indicate he was not on any medication for such. Just a loose end from prior shootings where the shooters were on anti-depressants or other meds for mental health. Interestingly, the prosecutor in the case said in the first court appearance of T. J. Lane that "he was not a well person". Note this was the prosecutor, not the defense. Defense seems not to be doing a good job so far. It appears that Lane's case will be turned over to adult court before long.

I am posting this news item here instead of in regular news because it fits in with the discussion on this thread. PLEASE NOTE: I am NOT excusing in any way the actions of this sergeant, but only trying to explore a possible link in this incident of what appears to be the same type of violence that we see domestically in school shooters or other such massacres (McDonald's etc.)

US soldier massacres 16 Afghan civilians, including 9 children

In the pre-dawn hours of Sunday, a US soldier stationed at a base in Afghanistan's Kandahar province allegedly launched a single-handed gun attack on nearby Afghan villagers.

The soldier, who has not been named, is said to have broken into three homes in three different locations in Panjwai district - the villages of Alkozai and Najeeban and another settlement known locally as "Ibrahim Khan Houses".

Details are still emerging about the exact sequence of events after the soldier left his base in Panjwai.

But by the end of the attack, 16 people, nine of them children, were dead and five wounded. Some of the bodies had been set on fire. The killings have devastated these remote farming communities.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17334643

Sergeant had previous brain injury

The American soldier accused of massacring 16 civilians in southern Afghanistan on Sunday was a 38-year-old staff sergeant based in Washington State who had no history of behavioral problems, but had been treated for traumatic brain injury after a previous deployment to Iraq, senior U.S. defense officials told NBC News.

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... scientists have linked brain trauma to some behavior, including violence. A vehicle the accused staff sergeant was in rolled over in Iraq in 2010, a U.S. official told Reuters. There is a link between brain injury and violence, according to researchers. Frontal lobe damage can result in loss of inhibition, leading to violent behavior that we normally know enough to restrain.

more information on the links between brain damage, concussions, and violent behavior, particularly in soldiers and veterans, found here: http://news.discovery.com/human/soldier ... 20313.html

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UPDATED: Joint Base Lewis-McChord, where the accused soldier was treated for TBI before being deployed to Afghanistan, has recently been implicated in an investigation over misdiagnosed PTSD cases. Again, officials haven’t stated whether soldier in particular had been diagnosed with PTSD at any point during enlistment. But as reported in the Washington Post today, Army investigators are currently poring over thousands of cases to see whether soldiers with PTSD at Lewis-McChord were diagnosed with a lesser ailment (like personality disorder). Already, the medical diagnoses of 285 soldiers will be re-evaluated by doctors.

(Several reports claim the sergeant was intoxicated at the time of the attacks.)

There are assumptions made at the heart of this article which have not been validated, although it does not come out and specifically state that this soldier was on any kind of psychiatric medication, so read this with that caveat.

Afghanistan massacre by U.S. sergeant reveals epidemic of psychiatric drugging of soldiers

(NaturalNews) The recent massacre of 16 civilians in Afghanistan by a rampaging U.S. military sergeant has something in common with nearly every school shooting in the USA -- something the mainstream media typically refuses to report: These shooters frequently have a history of psychiatric drug "treatment" by psychiatrists.

Psychiatric drugs are now being routinely used across the U.S. military, where violent suicides have skyrocketed to levels never before seen in human history. 18 veterans commit suicide every day, says this NaturalNews article reprinted on CCHR:

The story reports:

Prior to the Iraq war, American soldiers in combat zones did not take psychiatric medications, according to PBS Frontline documentary The Wounded Platoon, which aired in May 2010. (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... nopsis.h...) But by the time of the 2007 surge more than 20,000 of our deployed troops were taking antidepressants and sleeping pills. These drugs allowed soldiers with post-traumatic stress disorder to remain in combat when they otherwise could not. "What I use medications for is to treat very specific side effects," said Army psychiatrist Col. George Brandt. "I don’t want somebody in a helpless mode in a combat environment. I want to make sure I don’t have someone with suicidal thoughts where everyone is armed." (or murderous thoughts?)

In 2010, WIRED reported (http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/09 ... y-depres...):

An untold number of active-duty troops and recent veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are coming home with mental health conditions inflicted during service .....The use of psychiatric medications (like Paxil and Zoloft) among 18 to 34-year-olds (both troops and their spouses) soared by 42 percent between 2005 and 2009, Army Times is reporting.

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NavyTimes reports that psychiatric drug use is skyrocketing among military personnel, and that violent behavior (suicides) is a well-known side effect (http://www.navytimes.com/news/2010/09/m ... ds-080910/):

Prescriptions for stimulants, including amphetamines and drugs to treat attention-deficit disorders, more than doubled. And claims for anti-psychotics like Seroquel and Abilify nearly doubled from 2005 to 2009 among beneficiaries ages 18 to 34, the Tricare data show. Seroquel is often used to treat nightmares and sleeping problems related to post-traumatic stress disorder.

The rise -- and potential dangers -- of psychiatric drug use is a growing concern for many military officials and doctors.

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One-third of the U.S. Army is now taking at least one medication, reports the New York Times, and many are on a toxic combination of pharmaceutical cocktails. This is especially true among those diagnosed and treated for PTSD, TBI or other forms of "mental illness."

But rather than offering them real treatment, the recipe for the U.S. military today is to "drug 'em and send 'em back to battle." So now we have active-duty troops operating in Afghanistan who are ticking time bombs of psychiatric medications.

When those time bombs go off, we get suicides, accidents and even the occasional massacre of innocent civilians.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/035232_US_tr ... z1p6apbKsO

In 'highly unusual' move, Marines asked to disarm before Leon Panetta speech

In a highly unusual move, around 200 U.S. Marines were asked to leave their weapons outside the tent where U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta was set to speak during his trip to Afghanistan on Wednesday.

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Maj. Gen. Mark Gurganus ... said he had given the order because the two dozen Afghan soldiers also there were unarmed and he did not want to treat them differently.

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Military officials in Washington told NBC News' chief Pentagon correspondent Jim Miklaszewski that the decision to disarm the Marines was indeed significant. "It sends the wrong message" that Marines can't be trusted in the presence of the secretary of defense," .... Miklaszewski also told NBC's Chuck Todd Wednesday that the move was "highly unusual" and that Marines in combat zones are always supposed to have weapons within their reach.

http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20 ... tta-speech?

I can't believe this! I was just googling a little on this topic and found this!

Police: Man at court with family opens fire outside Texas courthouse; killing 1 and wounding 3

BEAUMONT, Texas — A man at court with family members opened fire outside a Southeast Texas courthouse Wednesday, killing one person and wounding at least three others before briefly taking hostages at a nearby business, police said.

The 40-year-old gunman had been inside the Jefferson County Courthouse in Beaumont but went out to his pickup truck shortly after 11 a.m., drew a weapon and began shooting, police said.

full story here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/ ... story.html