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and now today we have this:

North Korea Claims Waters Around Shelled Island

SEOUL—North Korea state media on Thursday issued a statement that claimed possession of all waters around South Korea-controlled Yeonpyeong Island, clarifying for the first time that its Nov. 23 attack of the island was motivated by a different view of the inter-Korean maritime boundary in the Yellow Sea than is widely held.

North Korea has said since the attack that it was motivated because shells from an artillery test South Korea conducted on the island that day fell into its waters.

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China Has Hit Back At US Comments Over North Korea,Tensions Rise

Thursday, December 9, 2010

China has hit back at US comments criticising Beijing for not reining in its North Korean ally, saying military threats cannot resolve tensions on the Korean peninsula.

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South Korea threatened to mount air strikes on the North if it carried out further attacks.

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Adm Mullen also called on Japan, the US and South Korea to stand together against North Korea.
"I do have a real sense of urgency about addressing the potential in terms of the Korean peninsula that is much better addressed with all of us together, in terms of showing strength and getting to a point where we can deter North Korean behaviour," he said.

(It is also under discussion to initiate joint maneuvers with South Korea, Japan, and the US all participating together.)

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NKorea sends top diplomat to Russia amid tensions
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North Korea warned Saturday that it is ready for an all-out war even as it dispatched its top diplomat to Russia amid a flurry of regional diplomatic efforts to defuse tensions over the North's deadly artillery attack on South Korea.

.... accused South Korea and the United States on Friday of pursuing a policy of hostility and confrontation and reiterated that North Korea needs its nuclear program to fend them off.

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The North's National Peace Committee also claimed that the U.S. and South Korea are pushing the situation on the Korean peninsula close to all-out war.

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North Korea warned Saturday that it is ready for an all-out war even as it dispatched its top diplomat to Russia amid a flurry of regional diplomatic efforts to defuse tensions over the North's deadly artillery attack on South Korea.


Well now, isn't that an interesting tidbit of information? :sherlock

Looks like TPTB in North Korea got less of a positive reception that they counted on from the Chinese. :slap

Does anyone really believe Putin will jump to their aid? What's in it for him? :popcorn

Would Putin provide support to simply antagonize the US a la the Cold War days?

IMHO, the answer is no, I don't think so.

Soooo - if he provides "moral" support what does he get in return? As far as I know, they don't have:

Gold
Diamonds
Oil
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in great abundance, do they?

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Blue I think Putin is arrogant enough to give at the very least moral support to NK to give the US a kick in the ass.

If for NO other reason just to say BACK OFF USA....

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the only thing i can think of that NK has in abundance that russia might want is....cheap labor.


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sorry. i got a little carried away with the emoticons this morning.

SKorea to Stage Firing Drills from Border Island

Thursday, 16 Dec 2010 07:25 AM

SEOUL, South Korea — South Korea said Thursday it will fire artillery from a front-line island shelled last month by North Korea,....

...New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, who has frequently acted as an unofficial envoy to the North, arrived Thursday in Pyongyang after telling reporters in Beijing he expected to be given some sort of message by North Korea...

...Meanwhile, in South Korea, the Joint Chiefs of Staffs said in a statement that marines based on Yeonpyeong Island, a tiny fishing community with military bases near the Koreas' disputed sea border, will stage one-day live-fire drills some time between Saturday and Tuesday. Weather and other factors will determine the exact time... :popcorn

....the drills on the island, which is just seven miles (11 kilometers) from North Korean shores. .... :crazy

..Marines will fire artillery away from North Korea, toward waters southwest of the island... :roll

......... "We are holding the drills with full preparation to deal with" fresh attacks, the officer said, also speaking on condition of anonymity. :fight

....Richardson, who has made more than half a dozen trips to North Korea, said "when they call me, they always want to send a message of some kind." ..... :arsehole

Richardson said he does not know who he will meet yet, but said he had requested a visit to the North's main nuclear facility at Yongbyon..... :popcorn

......Richardson is expected to return to Beijing on Monday....

Pyongyang is believed to be seeking bilateral talks with the U.S. before returning to the six-nation negotiations hosted by China. Those talks also include South Korea, Japan, and Russia.

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NKorea warns SKorea to stop live-fire drills

By KIM KWANG-TAE and FOSTER KLUG, Associated Press Kim Kwang-tae And Foster Klug, Associated Press – 1 hr 30 mins ago

SEOUL, South Korea – North Korea warned South Korea on Friday not to stage artillery drills on a front-line island the North bombed last month, saying it would hit back even harder than in the previous attack that killed four South Koreans.

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N.Korean troops' new uniform alarms S.Korea
Dec 28 03:11 AM US/Eastern

Some North Korean troops stationed along the border have donned a camouflage uniform similar to that worn by South Koreans, apparently to practise intrusion drills, a defence ministry official said Tuesday.

The move prompted the South to advance the supply of new uniforms for its own troops to avoid confusion, the official told journalists in a background briefing.

"It's been confirmed some North Korean frontline troops are wearing uniforms with woodland camouflage pattern which is similar to those of South Korean uniforms," the official said.

"Our judgment is that the North's special forces stationed there are staging intrusion drills wearing the uniforms."

The South's military has begun supplying new "digital camouflage" uniforms and is considering speeding up the distribution following the North's move.

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From Wikipedia:

Digital camouflage (or "digicam") is a pattern devised by utilizing small micropatterns, as opposed to larger macropatterns for effective disruption. The theory is that large blotches of color with sharp outlines are easier to see, while "blurring" the edges of the colored patches makes the outlines, and thus the objects, harder to discern. The name is misleading, as most non-digital camouflage patterns also consist of a set of discrete colors; "pixellated camouflage" would be more accurate, but "digital" has stuck. From 1978 to the early 1980s, the American 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment stationed in Europe used a digital camouflage pattern (dual-tex) on its vehicles. During 1979 and 1980, the Australian Army experimented with digital camouflage (dual-tex) on helicopters.[citation needed]

More recently, battledress in digital camouflage patterns has been adopted by the Canadian Forces (who pioneered the design, which bears similarities to Flecktarn (CADPAT), the United States Marine Corps (MARPAT), the military of Jordan (KA2 series), United States Army (Universal Camouflage Pattern), the United States Air Force (Airman Battle Uniform), the Philippine National Police Special Action Force, the Philippine Marine Corps, the Philippine Army, the National Army of Colombia (Patriota), the Ecuadorian Army, the Peruvian Army (PACIPAT), the Guatemalan Army Special Operations Brigade, the Italian Army (Vegetato), Estonian Defence Forces (ESTDCU), the Iraqi National Police, the Croatian Army, the Military of Latvia (NBS2006), the Finnish Defence Forces (M05), China Armed Police Force (Type 05) and Chinese People's Liberation Army (Type 07),the Turkish Armed Forces (UCP like has 7 colors), Serbian Army and Police (M-10) and (DMDU-03), Kuwaiti Army (KAPAT), Russian Federation Army, Royal Thai Armed Forces, the Indonesian Army Batalyon Raiders, Mexican Armed Forces (SEDENA-08 Types A, B C, and D), the Lebanese Airborne Regiment and the Lebanese Navy SEALs Regiment, Singapore Armed Forces (woodland and arid), and the Yemeni Internal Security Forces.[citation needed] The South Korean Army possibly around August 2006, already adopted a digital camouflage pattern that is somewhat similar to the USMC's MARPAT—it is currently being supplied to Special Warfare Command units. Meanwhile, they are going to introduce another digital camo scheme for regular units very soon. The German, Danish, and Japanese military today use camouflage that involves dots (flecktarn) instead of pixelated patterns. Presently, the digital camouflage for personal clothing is being actively evaluated by some other countries, e.g. Austria, Poland, and Spain.[citation needed]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_camouflage#Digital_camouflage

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Caveat lector: unknown source

North practices to seize 5 border islands: Report
Radio Free Asia, citing anonymous source in China, says drills ongoing
December 31, 2010

Navy sailors stand guard yesterday on the deck of the Euljimundeok despite a strong snowstorm as the destroyer returns from patrolling seas where South Korea’s five border islands are located. By Cho Yong-chul
North Korea has been training its special forces for a surprise attack on South Korea’s western border islands, going so far as to simulate a takeover of them, according to Radio Free Asia yesterday.

“From mid-December, divisions within North Korea’s navy, like the sharpshooting brigade and reconnaissance bureau, have been involved in landing drills in the waters off the coast of Nampo,” RFA said, citing a source in China well-informed about North Korea. Nampo is a North Korean city and seaport located in South Pyongan Province.

The order for the exercise was given by North Korean leader Kim Jong-il and his son Jong-un, who demanded the border islands be taken over in the event of a sudden conflict, the anonymous source said.

The source said that the information had come from a North Korean military official in Pyongyang, saying that the exercises were being conducted to “break the will of the South Koreans who have been promising strong retaliation ever since the Yeonpyeong Island shelling.”
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Is Iran About to Test a Nuclear Bomb In North Korea?

By Reza Kahlili

Published December 30, 2010

On December 24, a research report from the South Korean Foreign Ministry Institute indicated that North Korea would carry out another nuclear bomb test after the beginning of the year. -- South Korean media reported earlier this month that the North was digging a tunnel in preparation for such a nuclear test.

At the same time, reports from inside Iran indicate that a team of Iranian nuclear scientists have been sent to North Korea and that the two governments have agreed on a joint nuclear test in North Korea with a substantial financial reward for the Kim Jong-Il government.

It is no secret that Iran and North Korea are collaborating in a ballistic missile program. The North Koreans provided Iran with the technology and know-how to build the Shahab-3 medium-range ballistic missile, which is a copy of the Nodong-1 missile. The Shahb- 3 missile has a range of 2,000 kilometers (1,240 miles) covering all of the U.S. military bases in the Middle East and the entire country of Israel.

Most alarming, recent WikiLeaks releases reveal that Iran obtained a cache of advanced missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads (based on a Russian design) from North Korea. Now, for the first time, Iran has the capability to target every capital in Western Europe.

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South Korea to Extend Range of Ballistic Missiles

South Korea has announced a deal with the United States to nearly triple the range of Seoul's missile systems to cover all of North Korea.

Officials in Seoul told reporters Sunday the new deal allows South Korea to extend the maximum range of ballistic missiles from the current 300 kilometers to 800 kilometers. The 300-kilometer limit is part of a 2001 accord with the United States.

Washington has not commented on Sunday's announcement in Seoul.

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Read more here: http://www.voanews.com/content/south-korea-missiles/1521905.html

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Just saw a news clip today that North Korea announced their missles can hit anywhere inside of South Korea as well as the United States...

Coincidence, I think NOT :nono

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After threats against U.S., North Korea turns ire to South
By K.J. Kwon and Jethro Mullen, CNN

updated 11:45 AM EST, Fri January 25, 2013

Seoul, South Korea (CNN) -- "Troubling and counterproductive" rhetoric from North Korea is inflaming tensions on the Korean peninsula, but ultimately, "we will judge North Korea by its actions, not its words," the U.S. envoy to North Korea said Friday.

In its latest bout of saber-rattling, North Korea on Friday warned of the possibility of "strong physical counter-measures" against South Korea after the United Nations imposed tougher sanctions against the North earlier this week.

The threat against South Korea came a day after the North said it would carry out a new nuclear test and more long-range rocket launches as part of a new phase of confrontation with the United States.

The statement Friday from North Korea's Committee for Peaceful Reunification of the Fatherland said it would take action against South Korea if it "takes a direct part" in the U.N. sanctions.

The South Korean Unification Ministry declined to comment specifically on the new threats from Pyongyang. It reiterated its stance that North Korea should refrain from further provocations.

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A displeased Chinese editorial

At the same time, North Korea's strong words and vow to conduct a third nuclear test -- previous ones took place in 2006 and 2009 -- appear to be testing the patience of its main ally, China, which voted in favor of the U.N. sanctions this week.

An editorial published Friday in the English-language edition of the state-run Chinese newspaper Global Times struck a displeased tone over Pyongyang's comments a day earlier.

"China's role and position are clear when discussing the North Korea issue in the U.N. Security Council," the editorial said. "If North Korea engages in further nuclear tests, China will not hesitate to reduce its assistance to North Korea."

That prospect carries weight, since North Korea's impoverished economy relies heavily on China to stay afloat.

Global Times, whose editorial line often but not always reflects official Chinese policy, made it clear, though, that Beijing isn't about to cut Pyongyang loose.

"If the U.S., Japan and South Korea promote extreme U.N. sanctions on North Korea, China will resolutely stop them and force them to amend these draft resolutions," the editorial said.

Global Times noted that Beijing had put "a lot of effort into amendments" to the resolution approved by the Security Council this week.

"It seems that North Korea does not appreciate China's efforts," it said. "It criticized China without explicitly naming it in its statement yesterday."

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Read more here: http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/25/world/asia/north-korea-threat-south/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Hmmmm - more saber rattling or something to keep an eye on?

I don't ever remember China

a. voting for sanctions
b. voicing its displeasure so openly at TPTB in North Korea.

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Seismic activity reported in area of previous North Korea nuclear tests


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updated 10:52 PM EST, Mon February 11, 2013

(CNN) -- North Korea appeared to have conducted its third underground nuclear bomb test Tuesday, as the U.S. Geological Survey reported a seismic disturbance centered near the site of the secretive regime's two previous nuclear tests.

The area around the reported epicenter of the magnitude 4.9 disturbance has little or no history of earthquakes or natural seismic hazards, according to U.S. Geological Survey maps. The disturbance took place at a depth of about 1 kilometer, the USGS said.

There were no initial reports concerning the activity on the North's state-run Korean Central News Agency on Tuesday.

"It's a nuclear test," said Jeffrey Lewis, director of the East Asia Nonproliferation Program at the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies at the Monterey Institute of International Studies. "That magnitude and that location -- it's awfully unlikely it's anything else."

In Washington, a senior administration official said the United States was working to confirm a nuclear test.

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Read more here: http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/11/world/asia/north-korea-seismic-disturbance/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

This is breaking news...

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North Korea declares 1953 armistice invalid

Hong Kong (CNN) -- The North Korean army has declared invalid the armistice agreement that ended the Korean War in 1953, the official newspaper of the country's ruling Workers' Party said Monday.
Since last week, North Korea had been threatening to scrap the armistice after the U.N. Security Council passed tougher sanctions against it in response to its February 12 nuclear test.
On Monday, the Rodong Sinmun newspaper reported that the Supreme Command of North Korea's army had done so.

"The U.S. has reduced the armistice agreement to a dead paper," the newspaper said.

North Korea also cut off direct phone links with South Korea at the inter-Korean border village of Panmunjom, according to South Korea's Yonhap news agency. The phone line was the emergency link for quick, two-way communication between the two sides.

The armistice agreement, signed in 1953, ended the three-year war between North and South Korea in a truce.

Since the two sides remain technically at war, it remains to be seen whether the invalidation means that either side can resume hostilities.

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Read more here: http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/11/world/asia/north-korea-armistice/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

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North Korea warns 'moment of explosion' nears
By Matt Smith, CNN
updated 7:28 PM EDT, Wed April 3, 2013

(CNN) -- North Korea stirred up fresh unease in Northeast Asia early Thursday, threatening attacks by a "smaller, lighter and diversified" nuclear force and warning, "The moment of explosion is approaching fast."

The new threat came after the North Koreans locked South Korean workers out of a joint factory complex and announced plans to restart a nuclear reactor it shut down five years ago. Meanwhile, the United States announced it was sending ballistic missile defenses to Guam, a Pacific territory that's home to U.S. naval and air bases.

"The moment of explosion is approaching fast. No one can say a war will break out in Korea or not and whether it will break out today or tomorrow," North Korea's state news agency KCNA declared in its latest broadside. "The responsibility for this grave situation entirely rests with the U.S. administration and military warmongers keen to encroach upon the DPRK's sovereignty and bring down its dignified social system with brigandish logic."

DPRK is short for Democratic People's Republic of Korea, the official name for North Korea.

Most observers say the North is still years away from having the technology to deliver a nuclear warhead on a missile. U.S. officials have said they see no unusual military movements across the Demilitarized Zone that splits the Korean Peninsula, despite weeks of bombastic rhetoric from Pyongyang, and many analysts say the increasingly belligerent talk is aimed at cementing the authority of the country's young leader, Kim Jong Un.

But the North does have plenty of conventional military firepower, including medium-range ballistic missiles that can carry high explosives for hundreds of miles. And U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said Wednesday that the North Korean threats to Guam, Hawaii and the U.S. mainland have to be taken seriously.

"It only takes being wrong once, and I don't want to be the secretary of defense who was wrong once," Hagel told an audience at Washington's National Defense University.
But Hagel also said there was still a "responsible" path for the North to take.

"I hope the North will ratchet this very dangerous rhetoric down," Hagel said. "There is a pathway that is responsible for the North to get on a path to peace working with their neighbors. There are many, many benefits to their people that could come. But they have got to be a responsible member of the world community, and you don't achieve that responsibility and peace and prosperity by making nuclear threats and taking very provocative actions."

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Read more here: http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/03/world/asia/koreas-tensions/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

I held off updating this topic with the current news about North Korea. However, I feel a spidey tingle in my gut.

I fear this could very rapidly escalate out of control.

Bears watching, IMHO.

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We need to make a New Korea Section as this is gonna get nasty.

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We need to make a New Korea Section as this is gonna get nasty.


This is Gonna get Worse then Nasty, L2L

This is Gonna get downright deadly.

If I was in the USA or Canada I'd be booking a plane ticket for somewhere Like Australia or anywhere else as far away as I :dam well could, L2L

Hoo boy!

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Ya know, freak, I felt the same way - at first.

However, I'm beginning to wonder if this is all just posturing as usual by the NK. Recall over the past 10-20 years that this type of behavior has been SOP for them whenever their people starve or whenever they get their feelings hurt.

The problem is this young, untested, unknown leader of theirs surrounded by the "old guard." Would these folks really put their privilege on the line?

See below the OpEd piece from the NY Times (yesterday):

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Stay Cool. Call North Korea’s Bluff.
By ANDREI LANKOV
Published: April 9, 2013

NORTH KOREA is a tiny dictatorship with a bankrupt economy, but its leaders are remarkably adept at manipulating global public opinion. In recent weeks, we have been exposed to yet another brilliant example of their skill.

Scores of foreign journalists have been dispatched to Seoul to report on the growing tensions between the two Koreas and the possibility of war. Upon arrival, though, it is difficult for them to find any South Koreans who are panic-stricken. In fact, most people in Seoul don’t care about the North’s belligerent statements: the farther one is from the Korean Peninsula, the more one will find people worried about the recent developments here.

The average South Korean’s calm indifference is understandable: he or she has been through similar “crises” many times. By now South Koreans understand Pyongyang’s logic and know North Korea is highly unlikely to make good on its gothic threats.

People who talk about an imminent possibility of war seldom pose this question: What would North Korea’s leadership get from unleashing a war that they are likely to lose in weeks, if not days? Even if they managed to strike Japan, the United States or South Korea with nuclear weapons — a big if, given that they do not have a reliable delivery system — they could not save themselves from ultimate defeat. On the contrary, the use of nuclear or other terror weapons would be certain to invite overwhelming retaliation, delivering North Korea’s decision makers to a fiery oblivion.

Suggestions that those leaders are irrational and their decisions unfathomable are remarkably shallow. North Korea is not a theocracy led by zealots who preach the rewards of the afterlife.

In fact, there are no good reasons to think that Kim Jong-un, North Korea’s young dictator, would want to commit suicide; he is known for his love of basketball, pizza and other pleasures of being alive. The same logic applies to his advisers, old survivors in the byzantine world of North Korean politics who love expensive cars and good brandy.

Moreover, there is almost nothing particularly unusual in the recent developments. In the last two decades, North Korea has on various occasions conducted highly provocative missile and nuclear tests and promised to turn Seoul into a sea of fire. Now it has declared its withdrawal from the 1953 armistice agreement that ended fighting in the Korean War but not the war itself. It has denounced American and South Korean military exercises as an act of war. And on Tuesday, North Korea told foreigners in the South to look for shelter or consider evacuating because the Korean Peninsula could soon be engulfed in nuclear war. This time, the tune is being played louder, but that is the only real change.

A closer look at North Korean history reveals what Pyongyang’s leaders really want their near-farcical belligerence to achieve — a reminder to the world that North Korea exists, and an impression abroad that its leaders are irrational and unpredictable. The scary impressions are important to North Korea because for the last two decades its policy has been, above all, a brilliant exercise in diplomatic blackmail. And blackmail usually works better when the practitioners are seen as irrational and unpredictable.


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Read more here: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/10/opinion/stay-cool-call-north-koreas-bluff.html

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