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On October 25th, 2012
a Press release titled "Major Banks, Governmental Officials and Their Comrade Capitalists Targets of Spire Law Group, LLP's Racketeering and Money Laundering Lawsuit Seeking Return of $43 Trillion to the United States Treasury" appeared on CNBC's website. T
his press release, which has now been removed is the work of 'Spire Law', a organization claiming they will help foreclosed upon homeowners sue the banks for trillions. They are an likely not legitimate, and it would have possibly succeed smoothly if an unrelated tragedy did not get it special attention from the internet's conspiracy forums. These links are examples of what internet conspiracy theorists are saying:
Link 1: Link to example of conspiracy being spread around the internet.
Link 2: Vapid, Scam artist aiding podcast. Responsibility in journalism is required so you don't aid scam artists.
NOW - this would not be a huge problem, some great attention for the law suit, possibly a conspiracy of monumental proportions, etc. however, this is not what the outcome is turning out to be. The tragedy involved is beyond terrible and we will not be referring to it much at all directly. This is about Spire Law and it's proprietors.
You see...
There is more, or maybe less, to Spire Law than meets the eye. There is often a bigger story to these things, and here you can find evidence and information about Spire Law, it's proprietors, and the "Worlds Largest Lawsuit of all time"
How Does all This Disprove the CNBC TRAGEDY 'Conspiracy'?
Very Briefly: The conspiracy is based on the idea that somehow publishing the Press Release which can be seen here, on CNBC.com, this caused - 2 or 3 hours later - a senior executive at CNBC to suffer a unspeakable tragedy to 'send a message' or a 'warning'. This idea is based on the assuming that the 'banksters' will be looking to silence this law suit. However, the banksters, and even mere educated and savvy citizens, can easily spot the real story here after looking at spires website: the people named as defendants on the lawsuit will NEVER RESPOND to it, let alone end up in court. They wont even have to answer it. To wrap this unpleasantness up: There is no conspiracy if there is no real motive. Press releases are not generally edited or reviewed by the organizations that eventually publish them. Press releases of this type are reviewed by third parties. There is zero connection between anyone at CNBC and the scorn or wrath of any Banksters. Please see the links below for more thorough explanations on this topic. I cannot bring myself to review the details closely enough to provide anything beyond the sure knowledge that Spire Law Group and Mitchell J. Stein will NOT help anyone but themselves. Thank you. Spread the word to those who are most vulnerable to either aiding Spire with publicity, or, heavens forbid, falling for Spire's stunt.
Why did I Make this?
Spire Law has,
badly, attempted to co-opt the traditional language of discontent and anger - something the entire country is feeling. I find this disgusting - and given the 'conspiracy' - it was clear this little 'back story for the scam' which is being built in these press releases was about to get A LOT MORE ATTENTION. I feel this sort of publicity, most of it credulous and often with a vested interest in preserving controversy - is dangerous and clearly damaging. I am not a journalist, clearly, but I decided to do something. If anyone would like to take over and improve the time line, or the site, please contact me via twitter. I am an individual. I am not a professional activist or agitator - and certainly no agent or friend of the oligarchical banking system.
Also, feel free to take ANYTHING here and re-use it - republish it, call it your own, put it in books, put it in print. DO ANYTHING THAT WILL GET IT OUT!
RICO is not the point of steins lawsuit or press releases. Please read it again, from the point of view of an American Citizen who may send money to Stein. Consider what you think the potential outcome of sending Stein you LAST MONEY IN THE WORLD would be.
Q: What do you think would happen, in the end, if you gave money to Stein and Spire Law, expecting to get any money back.
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Top 10 Reasons this HAS TO BE A SCAM
1.Mitchell J. Stein's Involvement
2.
There is no Spire Law Group LLP Registered in California, NYC, or Ohio3.The bar number Spire used in ALL their corporate communications
is for a lawyer retired since 19994.
Mitch Stein recently sued Brookstone for a billion dollars - which was a sign of serious mental issues.
5.Spire Law LLP claims 250 years collective experience, but
cannot make a website or spell their clients names correctly6.Language like "
[color=#FF00FF]Comrade Capitalists" is patently ridiculous[/color], and no matter the merrit of any claims, will not be taken seriously
7.No one in foreclosure should ever deal with a lawyer outside their community, who does not want to see their documents
8.Some people bought in at $10,000 some at $1,000 -but you all get $75,000?
9.The numbers in the lawsuit make no sense at all. A big point on its own
10.The numbers: 838 plantiffs times $75,000 is around $60,000,000 - that is 60 million, not trillion
11.In the lawsuit they are talking about $73 trillion, not $43 trillio
12.
$73 or $43 trillion dollars of currency is not available in the entire world. period13.USA itself apparently does not even have a trillion dollars
14.Lawfirms that take on the government and win have very serious staffs with very serious websites. NOT a website like Spire has
15.
Spire did not even have a website until around the time they filed the lawsuit16.The attorney who's name is on the lawsuit has no ability to see such a case through. For him to accept these fees is beyond ridiculous
17.Reason 17: There are far more than 10, or 17 reasons that Spire Law Group LLP (not an LLP) is a scam.
18.There's nothing particularly dangerous in letting news outlets report on a lawsuit in progress. Lawsuits are public record. Anyone can just go look it up. It's impossible to cover up a lawsuit.
19.Press releases are not articles.
No real news organization has touched Stein\Spire's garbage for a good reason.
20.
Same people have pullled the same scam before.
21.It has a Pacer entry, it is a real lawsuit. 'Real lawsuit on the books' or not - it will only make it a few days at most in court.
Its designed to fail, and quickly - no messing around here - they do not want to spend any time working for you at all if they can avoid it.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Links
Links to Sources and More Information. Sorry for the disorganization!
•Spire Law Group's Current Website
•Dobie Law - Mitchell J. Stein's Personal Website
•October 25th Press Release - The One Involved in CNBC Controversy
•An Example of Irresponsible 'Reporting' This Website is a Response To
•A VERY GOOD Summary of this Information. This is part of where I found my Sources
•Mitchell J. Stein's Suspension Record on California Bar Website
•This Link Really tells the Story Better than my Own Site.. Check it Out for Detailed Information & the Ohio AG's Thoughts
•Mitch has made a real mess of his life. Keep him out of your life.
•Meet the Old Scam - Same as the New Scam. Here we see people in the BofA suit realizing the whole thing stinks.. Smart people.
•Is this what you signed?! Oh boy.. Time to contact your Co-Plantiffs and find the AG office's phone Number!
•Want to read even more of this crud?
•"Something" James N Fiedler published for us to try and decipher. Appears to be a bunch of inflammatory anti-democrat\left propaganda mixed with information about the Spire Scam. This is a recent example of this, from October 26, 2012
•Here we find someone threatening a client of Spire Law LLP(not an llp) that had realized his client agreement was FAR OUT MAAAN and sent it in for help from a whistleblower. Look at this. How can this person look at that client agreement and lambast the person that was tricked\smooth talked into signing it!?
•Another example of the lawsuit mentioned way back in April - Sorry CNBC conspiracy - you dont exist! Also -James N Fiedler - Look what your name is now associated with - for money? You are going to do this to these... Low information tea partiers that want justice desperately?
•Fiedler calls Orly Taitz, apparently..... Fine.. But, man - Oh Tea Partiers... Heh... Stein, owner of Spire, who has your money - HE SUPPORTED CLINTON(s) with tens of thousands of dollars! Can find that info on Huffington Post if you look.
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Answers to Questions or Comments
Q: Isnt this heresy and character assasination?
A: No -
there is NO SPIRE LAW LLP. Its that simple, furthermore, the characters involved decided to take their press releases out on right wing conspiracy media - not me. They left the trail, I just followed it.
Q: Maybe Stein has 'gone good'?
A:
Stein tried to keep his involvement secret, but couldnt because his personal website is already under sscrutiny by many he has defrauded in the past - read it carefully, he says as much basically. You can read the info above, check the references and be your own judge of how likely it is that Stein has gone good, while
setting up the same thing the California AG claims was a fraud the last time he did it.
Q: The big banks hurt all those people! They must pay! Right?!
A: This is not a question about Spire\Stein\the Lawsuit. This is a statement of realtity, and has nothing to do with a lawsuit againsst Eric Holder and Obama, when we are describing individual homeowners who paid legal fees for specific outcomes. The concept that Holder\Obama have culpability in the banking scandals is not impossible for me to imagine, but attempting to hold them accountable in this way is beyond absurd - and taking cash from little low-info types to fund it is ridiculous.
Q: It isnt about Spire\Stein - it is about the contents of the case.
A: Wrong. Any lawsuit requires lawyers up to the task to have any hope of winning. This is totally about the law firms involved if you want to try and hold the defendants listed on this suit accountable.
Those particualr defendants are there to a) attract tea party sympathizers and b) make it fairly easy for Stein to claim, in his own defense, 'look - these people signed up for a tough case - their client agreement warned them. It wasnt a scam, but yes - we lost, and I am keeping their money'.
Q: But.. But! But! We are right!
A: No.
You are projecting your own interpretation of the complex issues of the banking meltdown onto a lawsuit which claims to somehow help homeowners while attacking the current American President. I am afraid this is a poor tactic for any individual homeowner in or facing foreclosure. And I am a WEB DESIGNER - and I know all of this....
Q: What about those kids! They are real.
A: That is beyond morbid that you guys cannot help but bring that tragedy into this. Your right wing talking head conspiracy nut leaders have been talking about this suit for 5-6 months - longer and more consitantly than anyone - because legit news organizations didnt see it as worth while and\or simple fact checking exposed the Spire Webssite - which - wow - maybe spire kept such a crummy site to avoid real media scrutiny? It does not matter, if a 'conspiracy-media' site has information from Spire's previous press releases, and the new one, and they claim the CNBC conspiracy is 'real' - then this means they dont know what is on their site(stupid), or they are not telling the truth (lying). See how that works? NO CONSPIRACY.
Read more here (and see links, evidence, etc.) here:
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