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 The Great Catastrophe - Originally posted on 09/15/2008 
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Charlie,

can you also check your database concerning autism and vaccines? It seems to be an epidemic.


The rise in autism is not being done on purpose by mankind rather it is more accidental. People with minor even minute characteristics are to some degreee obsessive in nature. These individuals are not comfortable around highly charged and random people and therefore seek out a mate that more matches their well-organized way of life. So essentially intermarrying is occuring and therefore the genes that cause autism eventually become dominant.

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I understand your philosophy on spirituality. I'm looking forward to positive change, but I'm not looking forward to a cataclysm, even though it's needed. I don't wish to be micro-chipped and numbered. If the new energy sources were allowed to come forth, instead of all money going for war and greed, life could be very different.


If you can manage to survive the pole shift and the several years of the aftermath you will see what a paradise this planet can be.

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Charlie,

to clarify the moving stars, I meant "falling" stars. They will be knocked out of their position by the anomaly, unless there's something on the moon shooting at them, lol. Fireworks!


There will be a gradual and noticable increase of fireballs in the sky which is from the debris field of the Anomaly.

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Would you call the anomaly a Brown Dwarf?


In this time period there is not a classification for the Anomaly but Brown Drawf would be the closet if one was forced to choose. The problem with the Brown Drawf is that it classifies large gas giants and low mass stars. The Anomaly is a Terrestrial planet with 85% of its surface covered with water but has a fusion process within its core.

This process, occuring at a much lower level, is similar to our Sun. In our Sun, there is a smaller proportion heavy elements to hydrogen nuclei present within the core compared to the Anomaly. This allows the fusion process to proceed at a rate where the energy produced overwhelms its mass dissipation rate, consequential there is a build up of energy, resulting in a lit stellar object. Within the Anomaly, the fusion process is contained to a very small area in the center core where the force of gravity provides sufficient compression of the hydrogen nuclei to fuse into other elements, most notably helium. The fusion process, dampened to a very slow burn by a larger proportion of heavy elements (mainly iron resulting in a power magnetic field) to hydrogen nuclei. Energy is released in a controlled manner and transferred to the surface of the Anomaly. The energy originating from the Anomaly's core is absorbed by the magma flowing near it. This moves the magma to an extremely excited state; its lower density pushes the magma towards the surface. Immense fissures in the surface crust (mostly under the oceans) acts like pressure relief values, allows the magma to be exposed and interact with the surface environment. As the molten matter in the magma cools, it moves from an excited state down to a state of equilibrium a chemical process, and energy is released in the form of light and heat. In the case of light, the majority of is dispersed in wavelengths near the red end of the spectrum. The rate of heating of the crust is dependant upon the conductivity and thickness of the crust.

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good day..
i read that someone mentioned meteors or falling stars:

I keep having the same dream, where meteors are falling, and the sky is very red, and lots of fire.. then some one waked me up saying: u gotta wake up, you must wake up, when i open my eyes is a tall person, wearing whitte,very bright, peacefull, smells like flowers... since 9 yrs old ive had this dream, now im 28... cant tell what does gotta wake up means.......



I am not sure either but it could be a message to be more aware of the environment around you especially for signs that the Pole Shift is approaching.

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Charlies thank for posting back I do have some questions to ask you..but this is for all the people who have disablies,like AIDs,mental illness,any kind of dieases that they suffer in life I must ask you something Charles if the people make it though polo shift...for example people who have AIDs or Mental illness will they be cure after the polo shift?? I would like to know that part thank you..and write back..


Those with disabilities, mental illness or a life threatening disease perished if not given assistance by those around them and left to fend or their own to ride out the Pole Shift or as a survivor in the initial aftermath. However, this mostly happened in areas with a larger than average proportion of humans with self-serving souls.

Medical data and technology given to us from The Visitors cured diseases such as AIDS and Bird Flu etc....

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Post Response to CatJammin - Originally posted 02/13/09
Hello CatJammin,

Your last two posts where you ask about the pyramids and the Annunaki is a very complex subject that will require significant time to explain. We will answer your questions completely at a later date.

But here's some quick info on what you specifically asked about.

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What is the purpose of the Pyramid of Giza


Have you ever wondered why no tombs were ever found in the Great Pyramid? Well that because they are not tombs. They served two primary purposes - 1) They were a constant reminder to the primitive humans at that time of how powerful and intelligent the Annunaki are. And 2) The astromonical viewing tunnels in the Great Pyramid were used so that the Annunaki stationed on Earth knew when their home planet Niburu (or what we term the Anomaly) was about to make another close passage past Earth. Furthermore, when viewed from directly above, the 3 pyramids are arranged exactly as the stars in the Belt of Orion are which is the general direction the Anomaly approaches our solar system from. Think of it as a sort of monument or recognizable pattern to any Annunaki ships that were approaching the site for a landing.

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Are you familiar with the ancient Sumerian artifacts and drawings?


Yes. The Summerians were one of the many groups of humans the Annunaki used as slaves.

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Post Response to Warrior381 - Originally posted 02/13/09
This question regarding the Annunaki needs to be answered immediately.

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Charlies I just wonder The alien from the future who help us after the polo shift..can you name the aliens that can to help us after the polo shift?? is this the alien name Annunaki or not??


Definitely not! If you knew the extent of what the Annunaki did to humanity you wouldn't want them anywhere near us. And thankfully they are not.

At the time of the last Pole Shift which is the period the Bible refers to as The Flood where Noah built an ark after receiving instructions from "God". In reality it was a scout class alien ship and a bit of a light show according to Visitor records. So to continue, when the Annunaki's home planet was close enough to Earth, the Galactic Council initiated a quarantine that effectively banned the Annunaki from Earth while there are humans inhabiting it.

Typically, the rule is that should two or more 3rd density species develop within the same solar system they would be allowed to interact if they reached the technological ability to do so. One of the main reasons the Galactic Council took such action is because the Annunaki race is significantly older than humanity and were worshipped as gods because of their technology and knowledge. This links with the other main reason for their course of action; the majority of souls of Annunaki are service to self in nature. When you combine the two reasons you should be able to fathom the impact to a more primitive race with mostly undecided souls.

In summary, they were removed and quarantined because their presence was not giving the souls of humanity a chance to choose their orientation.

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This mean the sun will shine from the North? I'm asking, because I did see this also, but still, there has been no extreme earthquake on the "Ring of Fire" as you claimed in 2003. I'm going to go with my dream and hope for the best.


I remember writing that... November 2003 if I remember correctly. So only 13 months and 17 days later, the Sumatra earthquake and resultant tidal wave that killed over a quarter of a million people is not considered extreme to you?

Back when we posted that, we were here for a different purpose and releasing specifics about that quake was not considered as important. Regardless, the mission protocol at the time did not allow such detail to be released.

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SURVIVING IN THE AFTERMATH - ADVICE TO GET YOUR PREPARATIONS STARTED

Words cannot convey the gravity of the situation that waits should you survive the Pole Shift. It is easy to say “complete devastation” but when you think about it, can you really fathom what that means? For the majority, we would suspect not. Even the best description that we could provide you with will not prepare you for the immense shock you will experience.

The purpose of this post is to get you to think about survival in the aftermath. The information here is the bare minimum essentials that you need to consider and we hope this will provide some direction towards your own preparation research.

Should you survive the primary Pole Shift event, your goal must be to move away from currently established cities and towns into the most remote area you can find. Other like-minded families/individuals will do the same and it is with these people that you should form small survival groups.

The main reasons that it is important that you move as far away as possible from current civilisation is because:

1) Those who ignored the signs even when it was right on top of them (essentially went into denial and will stay in denial until their deaths) will crowd the cities trying to live off the few resources that remain;
2) Gangs orientated toward the Service to Self will form in the cities/towns where they will either attempt to dominate the survivors and/or kill and destroy to try to acquire resources for themselves. When supplies dry up they will eventually head out of the cities to try and find supplies they need from anyone they encounter;
3) Severely damaged and destroyed city infrastructure can be a hazard like exploding gas lines and contaminated water from sewage systems;
4) Most cities are by the ocean which means they will be engulfed by water from the Polar Melt;
5) And finally (and probably the most important), the sheer amount of dead bodies. These will immediately start to decompose and spread disease. Not to mention it is not a good sight for the children you may have with you.

So, although you may start with a very small survival group (eg: just your family) it is important to join forces with those you encounter on your trek to your remote areas. For the most part those you encounter making their way to remote locations just before or immediately after the Pole Shift will be Service to Other. But please use your instincts to determine this. Generally, the Service to Self, along with those in denial, will remain in the cities in the immediate aftermath.

Those who choose to remain in the cities to ride out the Pole Shift, due to family that won’t move or have the calling to help the elderly etc., should attempt to get out with those you care about as soon as possible after the shift.

Just remember the rule when it comes to selecting a location to settle – at least 160km (100 miles) inland from current coastal regions and at least 180 metres (600 feet) above current sea level.

THE MAIN ESSENTIALS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION

The post that will come after this one will describe the final weeks when, if you haven’t already moved away from the cities, you should do so at this time. Therefore, we will work on the assumption that you have ridden out the Pole Shift away from the cities, possibly on route to your pre-determined safe destination.

YOUR PERSONAL PACK
For whatever reason, most probably because your vehicle has exhausted its supply of fuel, you will find yourself on foot before you reach your chosen destination. Therefore, you should prepare a personal pack that you can carry on your back. A good quality backpack is important. One with a hip belt is recommended and in dark colours as not to attract attention. It should also have other external straps that you can attach bulky items to, like blankets (do not take sleeping bags with you) wrapped in three/four garbage bags. The garbage bags should also contain one change of clothing with two or more pairs of socks. On the other strap, should be a small military type shovel. (The first use of the shovel will be explained in the next post detailing the Final Weeks before the Pole Shift).

Inside the pack, you must have at least the following items. As a general rule, ensure everything you can is low-profile (no bright colours) and can be camouflaged.

1) Small Axe – To cut and split wood
2) A Wok – Excellent cooking utensil and good for boiling water
3) Good solid meat cleaver and a small Arkansas Stone in which to sharpen it – This is good for chopping the outside of wood to get to the dry tender for starting a fire
4) Pliers
5) Vice Grips
6) Heavy Duty Metal Shears
7) Two spools of wire – For making traps to capture small rodents for food;
a. One that is 30m (100ft) twisted steel;
b. And one that is 10m (33ft) of No. 14 Solid Brass;
8) As much salt as you can carry with you – With the monetary system gone, the barter system will be the means of exchange and you will find that salt will be extremely valuable. A generous quantity will be the equivalent of $100 bills
9) Water distillation kit
a. 2 x four litre (1 gallon) paint cans;
b. A metre (3 to 4 feet) of copper tubing;
10) A book that describes (with pictures) edible plants in your area
11) Medical Kit
12) Cooking corn starch – excellent foot powder
13) A Crank Up torch
14) A generous supply of various seeds that you can use to start a vegetable garden

You should also have the correct footwear. This is extremely important in the aftermath and you should purchase a high quality walking shoe/boot that you are comfortable in. It is likely that you will be able to carry more than the pair you are wearing so ensure you have confidence that they will last a long time. Furthermore, you should always wear two pairs of socks – a synthetic against your skin with a wool pair over them – but more about clothing later.

Finally, try to have one of these from the beginning but you should be able to find one along the way with too much trouble, but a walking staff is also essential.

DRINKING WATER
It won’t take you too long to appreciate just how for granted you took on-tap running water. Remember, under normal circumstances, the human body requires 2 litres of water a day to replace fluids lost from urination, breathing and sweating etc. Having a reliable clean source of drinking water should be one of your top priorities.

Apart from the obvious ways of collecting rain water, water can be collected from fog by hoisting a cloth over a bucket or as morning dew can be collected of the ground by dragging a blanket around. Whichever way you acquire it, collecting water will not be a problem. The problem will be the pollutants in the water you collect.

Depending on your location, the water you collect can contain anything from volcanic ash, ash from forest fires, industrial chemicals and more than likely hydrocarbons from dust debris left by the Anomaly.

Distillation is a very effective process and can be done with a lot of improvisation. But if you packed the two paint cans and copper tubing this will be perfect for the job. Boil the water in one of the cans and ensure the steam is directed into the copper tubing with the other end in the empty can. The cooler sections of the tubing with turn the steam back to water and start to fill the empty can.

Distillation will remove almost anything from water including poisons, bacteria, viruses and heavy metals. However, be aware that substances that have lower boiling temperatures than water will not be removed. This can include, alcohol, oils, petroleum. These substances don’t mix with water and therefore can be easily filtered.

And finally, the substances that are removed when boiling remain in the boiler can and must be cleaned frequently.

If you can find any containers made of polyethylene, these can be used to store the water out of sunlight.

HYGIENE
No more going to the store and buying what you need...... Personal care will be very challenging to adjust to in the aftermath but it something that you cannot avoid and being prepared (especially mentally) can assist with your adjustment.

What happens when the toilet paper runs out? There are good alternatives. A bunch of soft green leaves, some use fir cones and even corn cobs (without the kernels obviously) but even these items may be hard to come by. So then you are left with your hands...... and therefore it is extremely important you clean your hands with water and sterilise afterwards with herbs such as juniper and sage.

As water will be a premium, you should only count on showering once a week. This may not sound too appealing to you right now but you will find that when you spend much of your time outdoors in the open air, the wind/breeze will keep you fresher than you think. If you have access or find almond oil, it is good for healthy skin while allowing you to smell fresh. Soap can be made through lye water passed through campfire ashes and animal fat. It won’t have the fragrances of the soap you use today but it will do the same job.

Dental care is also possible and recommended. If you have a toothbrush, use that for as long as possible, even without toothpaste, after each meal. To remove bacteria, slosh hot water around your mouth with your cheek muscles. And with care and assistance from others, a small syringe can be a substitute water pick.

CLOTHING
Depending on your location, you will find that the local climate in your area will be different after the Pole Shift. Nonetheless, you should be prepared with warm clothes.

Your outer most clothing, especially if you are travelling, is important. Avoid cotton as it is a poor insulator and does not dry easily. Wool, polyester and nylon should be your primary considerations. For your upper body, an open weave woollen sweater is good and for the rest woollen pants as your outer layer is also good. Wool does not hold moisture so even when damp/drying out from soaking, wool regains its insulating ability better than most fabrics.

Layering is the key to keeping warm. In addition to the outer coverings explained in the previous paragraph, your inner layer should be some sort of long underwear that is capable of moving perspiration away from the body to the outer layer of clothes. You should try to have several pairs of underlayers to replace should they get too wet. Try to avoid non layered clothes such as ski suits and parkas as they will not allow you to remove them should the temperature fluctuate slightly.

To elaborate further on my previous comments regarding footwear, we cannot stress how important this item is as it is very important to keep moisture away from your feet. Rubber-soled boots with insulation between the insert and the rubber is recommended. Remember, wear two pairs of socks, a synthetic inner with a woollen outer and ensure they are kept dry as much as possible.

FOOD
Eventually any food you bring with you will run out and it is important that you keep a wide diet as much as possible.

Using various bit of metal you find lying about, fashion yourself spears and knifes and teach yourself how to hunt for deer, boar or any where you can get meat from. Protein intake is important. We suggest that you research various methods of setting traps for smaller rodents using the wire from your backpack. If you are located near a river or creek, teaching yourself to net and gut fish is a must.

But until you adapt and hone your skills in these areas, you may find yourself short on food. Using the book you packed as a guide, you will find a range of edible plants and weeds that will stave of starvation.

1) Burdock. Roots can be harvested from wetlands and are similar to potatoes.
2) Bamboo. Good source of fibre.
3) Hickory. Care must be taken when cleaning before cooking to eat
4) Dandelions. Collect towards sunset when the heads have closed up. The entire plant is edible and is an excellent source of vitamins
5) Cattails. Seeds are edible but the pollen is a good flour substitute.
6) Sorrel. A good food enhancer.
7) Chickweed. Can be eaten raw at any stage of growth
8) And finally, plain old grass...... May not sound too appealing, and trust me it is not too tastey either, but it contains many elements that the human body is made up of. Pick young grass from shaded areas.

Further to plants, there will still be many bugs in the aftermath which can be a good source of proteins and fats. But you need to follow a simple set of rules so you don’t get yourself into trouble:

1) Always attempt to cook insects to kill any parasites that exist with them
2) Always avoid the poisonous ones, the one that have fine hairs, have bright colours and have 8 or more legs
3) Always remove head, wings and legs before cooking.
4) Never eat a bug that you find dead on the ground
5) Don’t try and eat bugs that can bite you back

Okay... let’s start with..... Earthworms, which are extremely high in protein. Ensure that you wash them properly and we recommended chopping them up.

Grasshoppers, locusts, crickets and slugs are edible. Crickets contain amino acids!

MAKING LIGHT
The immense global volcanic activity caused by the Pole Shift will cover the globe in ash that will last for a few decades (it still isn’t completely gone in my time). While there will be light during the day, the nights will be extremely dark especially in the first few years after the Shift.

Never underestimate the psychological impact of light either. Therefore it is important you know how to create light easily.

Learning how to start a fire is a must. There are several methods that you can research and we recommend learning how to start a fire in the rain. Surround with rocks to store and radiate the heat generated.

Oil lamps made from animal fat is good for heat and light. Even the smallest animal has fat which can be found around the internal organs, especially the kidney area. Ball up whatever you can find to about fist-size. A twisted strip of garment (cotton) will do for a wick. Cordage can be made from many barks, grasses, or plant fibre. The wick can be made as big as required: but remember, although larger wicks burn more brightly, they also burn faster. Melt a small quantity of fat in a depression in a rock next to a fire, and soak the wick thoroughly. Form the ball firmly around the wick and you’re done. Make sure the candle is placed in a fireproof container, such as a hollow rock, to catch the fat as it melts. Try to keep the burning portion of the wick out of the oil. This candle/lamp can be used indoors or outdoors.

If you packed your Crank Up torch, you can use this also.

OTHER INFORMATION
When leaving the cities and you have a road vehicle, load up with as much fuel as possible rather than food. This will ensure you get the maximum head start out of the cities. Once out of fuel, abandon your vehicle and continue on foot.

Forming survival communities with other caring and sharing individuals is a must. Combining family strengths instead of going it alone will lead to a greater chance of survival. Communities should not be too big (below 50 people is recommended) as really large groups stand a greater chance of being discovered by raiders/gangs.

Although we did not include this in your items to pack, if you have a firearm we recommend that you take it with you. The purpose for it is not to hunt with (resist the temptation to use it for hunting and conserve ammunition) but to defend your group from the eventual attack by raiders and gangs. If you moved to a remote enough location, it will take many months or even years for you to encounter them but you more than likely will and should be prepared.

Service to Self raiders/gangs will either want to kill you and take your resources or use you to be slaves for them. We do not tell you this so that you turn away those who genuinely need help but so that you are prepared and keep that fact of life in the back of your head.

And finally, The Visitors. After the Pole Shift, The Visitors will not restrict themselves to subconscious contact with the human general population but will start face to face contact. Without getting too deep into another subject, some decades ago Earth’s human population of souls voted to be Service to Other population so therefore only Service to Other Visitors are allowed to make face to face contact after the Pole Shift.

The Visitors will begin first contact by introducing themselves and then isolating pure Service to Other survival groups from other groups with Service to Self elements that are close by. These groups will essentially be cloaked however; these groups will be in the minority. In many cases, these groups contained contactees and were guided to these locations for protection.

The majority of groups will be Service to Other mixed with Undecided and/or Service to Self. Here, the soul orientation lesson must continue without interference in order to reach one result or another. As an example, those groups who were mostly Service to Other but contained Undecided & Service to Self elements and they somehow rid themselves of the Service to Self and the Undecided becomes Service to Other, then first contact will then occur.

Another example would be those groups, who have an equal mix of STO, Undecided and STS and some Undecided move towards STS thus tipping the balance towards that orientation will eventually suffer the same as other pure STS groups. Those STS humans that die will have their soul reincarnated on a STS planet and for the few STS humans that survive in the longer term will be removed in human form and taken to a compatible STS world.

All in all, 8-9 years after the Pole Shift, Earth will be STS free and first contact will be complete.

We are happy to give you this information regarding The Visitors but the biggest mistake a person can make is to expect (or even demand) help from The Visitors in the aftermath. To them, Earth (and humanity) is going through a transformation which ultimately sets every human soul to STO or STS – the catalyst for this being the Pole Shift. They will not interfere with groups/individuals who are still trying to establish their orientation.




We hope that this post has given you something to think about in relation to the conditions and survival techniques needed in the aftermath. There are various information sources on the internet that can assist you further should you require and as always, we will be happy to answer questions you may have.

Our next post will give a very descriptive account of the Final Weeks before the Pole Shift and will be uploaded very soon.

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Hi Charlie. What is your advice for loners? For some reasons, they couldn't find any like-minded people to discuss about this (let alone forming survival group). Most likely they would/have to survive alone.


You don't need to have people informed about the Pole Shift ahead of time to form survival groups. If you are truly service to other, you need to find people like yourself. I suggest joining a volunteer group that does activities to help the needy etc..... There you will be able to form friendships with people that you can contact and/or meet up with when the time is right.

Don't think or plan to try and survive on your own. You won't survive. Your survival will depend on those around you. You will no longer have services and corner stores etc. that support you now. In the aftermath, the real commodity will be the people you have around you (if they are the right people) and how well you work as a group.

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Thanks for the information, Charlie.
I was informed moments ago that this date of today, March 28, 2009, by noon (UT), was the time of the pole shift in Timeline T2 (as described by Dan Burisch).
As it's obvious we're in another timeline. I think that the timelines are somewhat screwed.
So, is it for sure that we are inbound to a pole shift, like you described in your post of 09/15/08?

Peace.
Luis.


Hi Luis,

No matter which timeline, there was only ever one point when the Anomaly caused the Pole Shift. There is nothing that can cause a planet to arrive early. Changes to planetary movements requires a significant event and none has happened to my knowledge.

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Hi Charlie,

More questions.

1. More governments are now releasing UFO information. Does it have something to do with the anomaly?


Not directly. UFO sightings having been sharply increasing over the past decade and there are so many people that have seen one now and are sure it is a UFO that Governments who deny just look stupid. They either start releasing documents like England has done and they will stay silent about the matter like the US Government will.

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2. John clearly mentioned that in his history, the US is managed 5 presidents each time. It seems your history is different from his? (There is a website recording all his on-line conversation. You can check it our youself and you will be suprised.)


There is much of the Titor story that you are unaware of (like side effects he suffered from using the C204 device when the whole project was about to be scrapped after it failed bio-integrity testing) but will be happy to explain when I have more time.

I guess what you can call the authority or Government in my time is a Council made up from a representative from the four major population centres on the planet and a Visitor representative - when I left it was a Pleiadean on the Council. I can only assume that is what Titor meant by 5 Presidents....

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3. When you say the soul comes to the physical body for learning, what is the point of coming to a mentally retarded body? The soul cannot learn anything and wait for death??


On the contrary, this type of incarnation is where the soul can learn significantly. If the soul is undecided but leaning towards Service to Other, this sort of incarnation can produce empathy for others like him/her and gratitude for the carers who revolve their life around them.

If the soul is undecided leaning towards Service to Self, the incarnation maybe one where it is a mentally retard person who does have a hard life and cops taunts etc. from those around him and possibly have no one to care or some who does but makes it blatantly obvious that they resent the individual for it. Here, the soul can realise just how bad it is and start the slow journey back towards Service to Other - it's next life will most probably be another but different hardship - or it can get enraged and swear revenge and head further down the Service to Self path. If leaning towards Service to Self and the soul chooses to continue down that path and wants to move onto the next life where it can take another step towards that path, it can do what all souls do when they feel they have finished with their current incarnation..... cause the body to shut down it's ability to fight of cancer cells which would very quickly end the incarnation.

When a soul wants to make a loud gesture that they have chosen their orientation, the spirit guides put them into an incarnation where that opportunity could exist. As an example for STO, it would be something like sacrificing yourself willingly to save the lives of others. For STS, it would be taking a gun into a school and start killing innocent people...... I'm sure you have heard that happen a few times in the past couple of years.

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4. After the disaster, many bodies will be gone. Where will so many souls be going?

That depends on the orientation of the soul in question. If well on the way to Service to Other, it will be reincarnated back on Earth immediately in various incarnations. If undecided but leaning towards Service to Other, it would be up to the Spirit Guides based on the development of that particular soul. It may be granted permission to wait for the next available incarnation on Earth or it may go to another 3rd density world to continue it's lessons.

If well on the way to Service to Self, they will be taken to planet to be with their own kind. If undecided but leaning towards Service to Self, they will not be allowed back on Earth and will be taken to another 3rd denisty world to continue it's lesson. However, because life bearing planets with intelligent species like Earth account for less than 8% of all life bearing worlds, it is more than likely the soul will incarnate into a body/environment that is completely alien. The Spirit Guides will pay these souls close attention during the first few incarnations to ensure they adjust properly and not let that difficulty have to much effect on their orientation lesson.

If a soul is completely undecided, and that will be as much as 50% of the souls on Earth at present, means this the souls is very young but didn't use the time it had to accomplish anything. Depending on the evaluation by the Spirit Guides, if no progress in either direction the soul will be aborted and that will happen naturally. Depending on the small progress made by the soul, the Spirit Guides will choose a suitable incarnation on another planet elsewhere in the galaxy.

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I have already promised this to another who private messaged me. I will let you know once I'm done.

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Nothing too exciting. It is a record of that particular species visits to the Earth in the past so that when or if others of the same kind arrive they know who was here before them.

It is the same as a tribual group of humans thousands of year ago painted the walls of caves.... either to tell a story or give a warning etc. etc. the skulls share a similar purpose.

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No. Fat is not a sin. It is just that Humans moved from a life where food was scarse to one where it is everywhere relatively quickly. But tens of thousands of years of existance with low food trained our systems to store food as fat for leaner times..... unfortunately this society doesn't see leaner times and the weight goes on. But the body has a way to stop excessive eating behavior.

I have never met a Visitor that you would call fat.

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The collision fractured the crust of the Earth starting the plate tectonic engine. In what is today the Pacific there is a massive dent and in what is today the Atlantic a massive supercontinent was formed. Much of the water and rock that was expelled into space either became the asteriod belt or the ones with a greater velocity became comets.

Due to the Earth losing so much of it's mass, it settled into the new orbit between Venus and Mars where it is today. Lunar was locked to the Earth but has been slowly moving away every since.


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Hi Recall15,

There are none in either of those locations. There is a small colony of Visitors (who are STO orientated) living on Earth in this density in the Gobi Desert. It serves as a co-ordination centre for the thousands of Visitors who have come to help those people who are calling out subconscious to guidance (ie: The Call) because the sense something big is coming.

The facility also has the ability to house about 60 ships.

The other alien installation near Earth is the one on the side of Lunar that is permanently facing away from Earth and is operated by the STS.

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Hello Timeline_39! I am Virtualgirl. If you are truly part of the JT saga then you should know who I am. Please let me know. I'm curious as to what method you used to travel to our time? Btw, I mean no disrespect with my questions. You should be able to travel to my current coordinates. I'll be waiting for you. Please advise to the exact location and time.

Me and one of my associates have been working on the exact problems that you have been discussing. It's quite interesting that we are coming to some of the same conclusions. Anyway, I'm looking forward to hearing from you.


Hello virtualgirl,

My original incursion to this time period was to find John and our communication on this forum then was attempt to coax a response after all other location methods failed. I only have basic knowledge of who he interacted with and know the key things he told people on the TT fourm.

When he was finally located, I took him along with the C204 back to my time but I did not debrief him myself. But much of what he says was questionable due to his condition. I have only seen him a couple of times since then when I went to visit him at his care facility in New Melbourne.

I promised in an earlier post that I would elaborate more on Titor so now is a good a time as any I'd say. In my time, the computers in every home or building accesses what we call EarthNet. EarthNet is the central computer system that runs all our infrustructure, communications and it contains a massive database that allows you to access information based on your security level. If you were a normal person (therefore having no special security clearance) who queried the database about Titor this is the summary the computer will tell you: (The section encased with <> is information I have removed)

<REAL> a.k.a. John Titor was born in Tampa, Florida in the year 1998. First official U.E.F. entries relating to John Titor are from a Sirian First Contact team in the year 2017. He was one of 64 people found in a survival community designated by the Sirians as STO-10026. Located in West Virginia, a region notorious for being a high STS area in the aftermath, explains why First Contact with this community occured <DELETED> years after the Pole Shift.

In 2024, Titor was accepted into the still young U.E.F. assigned to the department that would later successfully negotiate the Technology Share Treaty with The Visitors. This led to a senior position within the new U.E.F. Technology Research & Development Centre. The group’s first accomplishment was the construction of the Earth’s first Fusion Power Facility in New Sydney, Australia in 2029.

Following Council approval for the development of human time travel technology in 2032, Titor was a member of a scientific team of 6 humans who, with Sirian and Pleiadean scientists, designed & built the prototype Temporal Displacement Unit designated C204.

In 2035, after doubts were raised on some of the key fundamentals of the C204 device, (See Separate Summary on the C204), Titor made an unauthorized temporal incursion to the year 1975 earning him the title of the first human to travel through time. This was later referred to by many as the Titor Incursion (See Separate Summary on the Titor Incursion).

According to Titor, his failed attempt to return to 2036 landed him in the late 20th century where his mental degenerative condition began to take hold. His communication with the general public created a following and earned him a small degree of popularity although, due to his condition, what he said was a mixture of fact and imagination.

In 2039 using the new C300 Temporal Displacement Technology, a recovery team led by Charles Haynes was sent back to 2001 when it was discovered Titor was in that time period and communicating with the people of that time. The first two missions to retrieve Titor were unsuccessful. A third mission to 2003 was commissioned after an energy signature was detected from the C204 by equipment left behind by Charles Haynes in the previous mission.

Upon his return, Titor was diagnosed with the first and only recorded case of a neurological disorder resulting from time travel unofficially and rather inaccurately termed as Time Psychosis.

At last report in 2047, Titor was residing at a medical facility in New Melbourne, Australia.

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That is the official summary and here is more to help you understand further....

In February 2035, the C204 Temporal Displacement Unit was entering its final test stages and there was excitement in the air as the first round of organic testing began. We thought we were very close to starting time travel missions. The Council had already stated they would not allow travel further back than 1755 so mission proposals were being drafted within the allowable parameters. And by June of the same year over 350 missions mostly of an observatory nature were submitted for Council approval. One of these missions was a request from John to retrieve an IBM 5100 from the mid-1970’s.

By October 2035, concerns were raised after initial organic test results showed minor anomalies in the organic test modules. Eventually over the next 9 months, it was determined that some of the key basic fundamentals of the technology were flawed and a ruling by the Council cancelled development of the C204 in favour of a complete redesign of the power systems that were the cause of the problem. This included greater input and further technology sharing with The Visitors.

Titor disagreed with the Council’s ruling which eventually led him to believe he can prove them wrong by testing the device on himself by completing the mission that he requested of the Council.

Although John claims he stopped in the year 1999 first before going to 1975, we knew that wasn’t accurate. If he had stopped there first and went onto the TT forum, we would have realised and sent back a team to retrieve him. All we had to do was wait for him to power up his device which is when we would have detected him.

We now know that he stayed in the 1970’s for two years and during that time the anomaly that came up in testing was slowly degrading Titor's neural and nervous system. After recovering the C204, we found out that an error had occured in the operating system which sent John to the year 1999 instead back to 2036. His logs indicate that for nearly a year he tried to correct the problem with the C204 but could not and he was worried if he went on the internet and left evidence that he was there we would have realised. His plan was to arrive back in 2036 one second after he left for 1975..... according to his logs anyway.

Eventually he realised that he could not fix the problem and that something was seriously wrong with him. Just by reading what he posted on the TT forum, we could tell that he was in a bad way mentally. Which is probably why he stopped communicating on the forum. Everything that he told about the future was a mixture of real events and his imagination. Eg. calling himself a soldier was one of his fantasies that he mixed in with the truth in the forums. Although, still to this day (and we are thankful) we don’t know why he never mentioned the Pole Shift.....

We recovered John and brought him home but we were unable to treat the damage to his system and now he is slowly dying.

Lessons were learned by many from John’s ordeal and steps were taken for it not to happen again. The C300 Temporal Displacement Unit was fitted with more Visitor technology than the C204. Primarily, a user interface that is like the ones found in Visitor space ships. It is telepathically controlled and requires a human and Visitor mind to initialise with base mission parameters coded by The Council. This is why I cannot use my Pod except to return home as this was the programmed mission parameters.

The original power systems that were singularity based and was the cause of the trouble were replaced with the same Element 115 power systems found in Visitor space craft. Although this sort of power system is far inexcess of what the technology requires, it is the safest and we are eternally grateful to the Visitors for their contribution.

I hope this answers your questions and I would be interested to hear more about the conclusions your associates and you have come to.

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By total loss, I mean that that whole region gets rocked by earthquakes and when the rotation of the earth stops just before the Pole Shift it will be inundated by the oceans because they don't stop rotating when the Earth does. But the final nail in the coffin is the polar melt.


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(I was asking about Peninsular Malaysia in which I live.)

Horrible!

Do you think a small boat made of wood would survive? Or perhaps a simple life jacket to swim to the higher things?


A small boat will not survive the chaos of the Pole Shift event but you can use one in the aftermath. Although there is mountainous regions in Malaysia I do not recommend that you remain there. It will be overcrowded and resources will be limited. Many from that general region made it by boat to Australia or made for Laos/Macau. The later is closer to you and when you get there ensure that you move inland as quickly as possible. Do NOT head towards what is today west towards the Bay of Bengal/India region.

Also you would probably know that travelling by boat can take a long time and even though you can cast a line and catch a fish for food, drinking water will be the major problem as you cannot drink the sea water.

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charlies I just wonder? i just wonder there is a lot of Underground bases..but will people go there when the time of pole shift come?? or they all die in the underground?? write back..thank you..


You definitely do not want to be underground during the Pole Shift. The quakes will either crush the installation you are in..... or seal you in. My next post will outline the best way to ride out the actually pole shift.

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Hi Charlie,

I appreciate your replies, thank you. Now come to the real part of life, is it a STS act when one deliberately not to inform a clearly STS person about the impending disasters (provided he would believe once he is told)?

And how about deliberately not to rescue someone who is clearly a STS during the disasters (if he might threathen one's survival afterwards) ?

Hope you can shed some light on this.


Those are difficult questions without knowing more but consider this..... is not telling this person because you fear how he/she will affect others in your group in the aftermath or because it is easier for you not to tell him?

You have to understand that your actions dictate your orientation not your thoughts. You may have good intentions but it is whether you act on them that is the true test. If you think about being a volunteer or something like that and you think it is a good thing to do but you don't act on it then it is meaningless.

Being Service to Other means that you think and act for other people at least half the time. Self to Self is thinking about yourself and what is best for you over 90% of the time.

And regarding your second question, during the heat of the moment how will you determine the person is STO or STS? You won't. If faced with this situation, the STO will come to the rescue without a thought and the STS will not. If you rescue someone and invite them into your STO community and they turn out to be STS the community will have to decided as a group what is best for them.

Probably doesn't help you that much but I hope it sort of does. Remember it is your actions not your thoughts that dictate your orientation.

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charlies will the people over throw the Goverment when the polo shift?? write back..it 2009 when or how do we know about the pole shift coming?? will it be on TV live telling people to take cover or not?? write back..


Many people will look to the Government for help when it is obvious something is wrong. As recorded in my history, during the final weeks before the Pole Shift when it was obvious something was up (I will be discussing the final weeks in detail in the next post) the Police and Military tried to stop people from leaving the cities so the Government and Elite could easily leave. But not everybody was trying to leave, those in denial stayed and tried to go on with their lives and/or waited for the Government to come to their rescue.

Eventually, the Police and Military "grew a conscious" and let people leave and in many cases joined them but by then it was too late........

This is what we hope will be different this time..... We don't encourage to sit there waiting for Government help because it won't happen... what we hope will happen is that the people will be told during the final weeks and will be told the truth that there is nothing that can be done and what to expect. Additionally, martial law will not be called. This is how sure we are of how different it will be with Obama instead of McCain.

Even though we would like to see an announcement before the final weeks, we know that is possibly too much to hope for.

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Charlie, Shall you talk a bit about the Mayans?

Thanks!


Hi Recall,

I will give details about the Mayans in a later post.

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Hello Charlie,
You gave so much information, thank you. I really hope that my family can detect the right time to move out from the big city we live in. My family is looking into buying a small land in upper New England to have better chances of surviving. I also know that many people, who are preparing themselves for pole shift, are building dome houses from concrete and steel reinforced roads. There is different information on this, some say it is the best way to go, some do not agree. What is your suggestion? Do you know if there were cases that the whole family will survive? Is it OK to kill in self-defense? Or it consider STS?
Amrita.


The New England area is one of the more safer areas in the US. It still suffered from major ground shaking but not as severe as other places. There is another positive for this region..... the tectonic re-adjustment that occurred around the world caused the St. Lawrence Seaway to widen. The rocky land was pushed up and gained elevation of around 500-550 feet but the polar melt took back what was gained plus another 150-200 feet. Therefore, homes that are today 150-200 feet above the coast line found themselves right on the coast line.

Dome structures are strong but that is not the concern. It is the ground they are built on that should be the focus. This goes for those roads you speak of as well.

Many families survived the shift and many of those families did make it to first contact.

Regarding you final question regarding killing in self defense.... I will need a more detailed example to answer it properly.

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Hello, this is my first time posting.

I have been following thisforum for awhile and I have a request
for you Timeline_39.
After reading through your postings I gather that the entire Earth's landmasses have changed dramtically and I'm just wondering,
could you possibly show us a map of the new topography.


We are preparing one and will release it soon.

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I hope this answers your question to your satisfaction.

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Hi Charlie,

I am new to the forum and relatively new to looking into detail on things like UFOs, Planet X and the mysteries of the world/ universe, But I have followed some of your posts and they do cover many things that are of interest to me or that I would like answers to.

I am uncertain if I believe what I am reading on this thread or IF I believe you or anyone is a real time traveller, BUT I certainly find it interesting . And if you are a Hoaxer you certainly go to a lot of trouble and time which one would have to question what you would get out of it.

The Forum members and Your replies certainly make some thought provoking questions.

I appologise if I have overlooked some thing and not yet managed read all the comments made so far that May answer some of my questions.

I surpose I was 50/50 on if I believe that time travellers could exist.. but as I get older
I certainly do think there is more to this life than pure coincidence..and IF time travel is or will be in the future at all possible, then I would say.. yes in theory it may well be a high possibilty.

Can I ask you a few initial questions ? as I say Appoligies if I have not as yet come across some of the past comments that MAY answer them.

You Mention about STS and STO....and How we are being judged in our actions and that we are are being tested and this seems to determine our fate and next life etc if IT does exist.


You have misunderstood. Nobody is judging or testing you. Your choices on how you live your life determines the path of your soul.

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YOU Mention Spirit Guides... Who or what are they ? Is this God as we know it, Angels, or Aliens that are controlling US ? CAN YOU GIVE US MORE DETAIL ON THIS as this is a HUGE question to me ! and I am sure many others..


We are not sure exactly what the spirit guides are. Not even The Visitors we are in contact with know that. That information is only for beings in the much higher densities. What we do know that in this density, they place the souls in lives that would give them the opportunity to learn the lesson they need based on the souls development. We have very limited information on this process.

What I can say for sure that it is not God as your religions describe or Aliens.

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What are egs of STS.. that are seen as bad ? Would this be like speculators ? traders..
or are we talking criminals ? Mafia etc...


Here is an example people can relate to..... say a group of 5 people walking down the street... they don't know each other and are simple walking in the same direction by chance. Then suddenly, a man who is in his 50s collapses possibly from a heart attack. 2 of these people instantly (without even thinking) rush to the mans aid and try to get him help. Of the other 2, 1 stays and watches the scene play out, not even asking if there is anything he/she can do to help. The other looks around for a second but keeps on walking... possibly saying to him/herself that there is enough people they don't need me in the way.

Ok... this is a very loose example but it should give you the general idea. Obviously, the 2 that instantly rushed to the mans aid áre possibly leaning towards STO. The one that hangs back debating within whether to get involved could be an undecided soul. And finally, the one that walks away is possibly leaning towards STS.

It takes more than one minor event like that to completely orientate a soul... it takes many of these sorts of steps over many incarnations towards either orientation to be classed as leaning.....

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but if so what if they use their money for some sort of good !


Those with wealth who simply donate a sum to charity do so for more their own reasons that the charity. What have they done personally to get their hands dirty and make a difference? Nothing. They simply wrote a cheque.

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Why are some people born much more stronger / cleverer than others, as these people will usually on average always do better in life and create more STO....or is this part of the rewards of our evolution through our past ancestors? Are they also keeping track one what we do ?


Genetics is a factor here but also the incarnating soul plays an important part.

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You say Atlantis is buried under the Sea of the West Coast of Africa, Can you be more specific and Is this OF Morroco or near the Canary Islands ?


We cannot disclose the exact location of Atlantis as there still some Annunaki ruins that were not discovered before the Pole Shift. We cannot give information that will alter that outcome.

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Will we be able to see Planet " X " from the month of MAY 2009 ?


No.

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Are you suggesting that the Dow has bottomed now and will rally ?
IF so will this rally to new highs above the Oct 2007 14200 high ?


My previous statements regarding the DOW was to indicate the level (at least for now) that it will settle around. As the changes to the Earth get stronger in the lead up to the Pole Shift the world economy will take another hit.


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When the Pole shift occurrs, Will it be possible to Survive any where in the UK ?

IF NOT where would you suggest they may ? would they have to head for the Alps in Europe ?
Where in Europe would be the best option... I have heard Turkey.


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In a previous post, you would have read that New England gains ground elevation during the Pole Shift.... it is the opposite in England but not to the same extent. England will lose elevation at a level of approximately 100-120 feet. Combine this with the increased tidal activity in the oceans and you can picture that the coasts of England will not do well. Go to high ground and stay there....

i hope this answered your queries.

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Post You are now up to date with what I have posted....
You are now up to date on what I have posted in the TT forum....

You can view the whole thread here...

http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforum/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=ttclaims&Number=57763&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1

I hope you find the information here useful.

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What is the most obvious evidence that pole shift is imminent?

What is the most obvious sign that planet X is inbound?

The answer I expect is not a generic one...:))

Last but not the least, what is the threat level on India, Sri Lanka and Maldive Islands?

You mentioned to the reader from Malaysia to avoid Bay of Bengal sea are for a possible avacuation route.

What is the reason for this?


Can you please answer these questions?



Hello mayak1,

I understand that abnormal weather and quakes are localised and are not affecting enough people as a whole at present. I have mentioned before that Luna's orbit around the Earth is being affected by the Anomaly and this is something that everybody can track on a regular basis.

Luna (or what is still called The Moon in this time) typically has a slight orbital inclination to the ecliptic of 5 degrees. While Luna orbits the Earth, it is the Sun that dictates this inclination. With the Anomaly approaching from the direction of the Sun from beneath the ecliptic, it's magnetic proximity it affecting Luna and causing it to bob up and down in it's orbit. As I have previously suggested, note where Luna is against a fixed object (mountain, lightpole, tree etc.) and come back a week or two later and see how much higher/lower Luna is against that object. You will see that it has moved much more than 5 degrees in the sky.

Other signs will start increasing as the Anomaly leaves the Sun's primary magnetic zone one being the return of sunspots as well as increasing quakes in number and severity..... we will give greater detail when the time is right.......

Sadly, India/Sri Lanka are regions what we termed a total loss region and this is for two main reasion. Firstly, it is because these countries are on the Indo-Australian plate. What is happening ever so slowly right now is that the western side of the Indo-Australia plate is sinking with India being pushed under the Himalayas. This process will be greatly accelerated during the pole shift with the western half of Australia, India and Sri Lanka going under the waves. Secondly, for those who survive this, this region will be very close to what will be the new geographical south pole. So the survivors of the land disappearing into the ocean had to deal with severe climate change. It was the combination of the two that sealed the fate of those in this region.



Peace,

Charlie

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Re: Pridiction [re: mayak1]

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Charlie,

There is a predication by the Russian Indigo child Boriska about a possible event in Sep.2009 involving Russia. He says Russia will go under water due to an incident during Sep. 2009. This is predicted in Jan. 2008.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7Xcn436tyI

Would this materialize?


Thank you for answering.


Mayak1.



Hello Mayak1,

This is not accurate. There will be nothing significant happening to Russia in September of this year.



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