He told me the Government contracted outside their Official Branches through the private sector. That made me think they probably do this for plausible deniability. It demonstrates how logic clever the tactics have been. When the Government tells Congress and the media they don't investigate UFO's to a misleading semantic degree they're telling the truth...instead, they have other professionals do it for them.

You know, call me unconventional, or a square peg in a round hole, but I still don't get this obsession with secret societies, be they religious orders or masonic-based clubs. Does it all boil down to human beings liking the sense of belonging to something and feeling special, on a much grander scale in Majestic or the Illume's case, of course? Is it all related to powermongering and maintaining tawdry secrets? And why this big fascination in Jesus Christ and his bloodlines? Dan talks about humanity being afforded a new path, well why can't we ditch all this Jesus malarkey and religion too, and get out of the pens that restrict free thought. People can still live by a strong moral code without being chained to the dogma of ancient religions or secret societies. Sorry, rant over...

VMAs, Freemasonry — What More Could You Want On A Monday Afternoon?

I'm still reeling from the colossal shitstorm that was this year's MTV VMAs. At least no one made me blog about it. All the pretty lights and booze in Vegas couldn't save this overblown (and dull!) awards show. Sarah Silverman should really know better. And I should have known not to bother watching.

Oh, but those Freemasons!

Over the weekend, Brooke and I paid a visit to the penultimate parlor of brotherhood, the George Washington Masonic Memorial in Alexandria, Virginia. The building is quite majestic from the outside, but the interior is like a glorified Elk's Lodge filled with pseudo-mystical, quasi-biblical baubles.

I still took tons of pictures, once I was certain it was kosher. Hell, they allowed a film shoot for National Treasure II: Book of Secrets. (Wasn't that the subhead for Blair Witch II? I bet this flick is every bit as good).

For those of you who prefer to hold tight to your Dan Brown fantasies about shadowy conspiracies and metaphorical Christ-blood, consider this your Secret Society Spoiler Alert.

Pics and deliciously clever captions below the fold.

click pics
http://www.thecontrarianmedia.com/the_c ... asonr.html


Why does something so Scottish Rite feel so wrong?

Mystery Trader To Collect On Financial Meltdown?
Published on Monday, September 17, 2007.

http://www.blacklistednews.com/view.asp?ID=4273

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Source: Prison Planet - Paul Joseph Watson



A run on the Northern Rock bank in Britain has increased the possibility that a mystery trader could stand to collect around $2 billion should a panic send markets tumbling during the course of this week, as investors have predicted.

Last month, we reported on the mystery trader who risks losing around $1 billion dollars after placing 245,000 put options on the Dow Jones Eurostoxx 50 index, which led many analysts to speculate that a stock market crash preceded by a new 9/11 style attack or another catastrophe could take place before or during the third week of September.

The anonymous trader only stands to make money if the market crashes by a third to a half before September 21st, which is when the put options expire.

Following the run on the Northern Rock bank in Britain, specialist investors are now warning of an imminent and severe correction in the markets.

The credit cycle has turned, bad debts are soaring, banks will go bust and stock markets will fall much further,” Ken Murray, the founder and chief executive of Blue Planet Investment Management, told the Financial Times today, shortly after selling half the equities in his portfolio.

The Northern Rock crisis was followed by Alan Greenspan's warning that both the US and UK housing markets are on the verge of a major downturn as Prime Minister Gordon Brown holds an emergency meeting with US Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson today.

Thousands of people around Britain queued for hours at Northern Rock branches throughout Friday and Saturday attempting to withdraw their money as the global credit crunch sunk its teeth in again following the sub-prime mortgage fallout in the US.

Analysts from TheStreet.com dismissed last month's so-called Bin Laden trades as nothing out of the ordinary, but still noted that the transactions outstrip anything else seen in a year.

Though the current climate will undoubtedly send stocks tumbling, to see a downturn of a full third within a week is unlikely bar a catalyzing outside event like the announcement of military operations against Iran or a terror attack in the west on the scale of 9/11.

Intel chief pushes new spy law
Published on Monday, September 17, 2007.






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Source: USA TODAY - Richard Willing

Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell heads to Capitol Hill this week seeking to extend the government's power to read e-mails, listen to telephone calls and carry out other surveillance within the USA in national security cases.
Democrats, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, are criticizing McConnell's proposals. They say judges should oversee such surveillance.

Some Democrats also object to a second item on the spy chief's wish list: immunity from lawsuits for telecom companies that helped the federal government intercept calls between U.S. and foreign intelligence targets without warrants from late 2001 until last January.

McConnell is scheduled to appear before the House Judiciary Committee on Tuesday and before the House Intelligence Committee on Thursday. Complicating his task: a view among moderate Democrats that the self-described "apolitical" director has become an advocate for the Bush administration's expansive views on the government's power to spy.
McConnell is "undermining the authority of (his) office" by "appearing to play a political role," said Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif., chairwoman of the House Homeland Security Subcommittee on Intelligence.

A 1978 law requires the nation's intelligence services — CIA, FBI, National Security Agency and others — to get a warrant from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court before eavesdropping in a national security case on a target in the USA. Overseas targets, such as two al-Qaeda operatives speaking on cellphones in Pakistan, generally could be tapped without a warrant.

Recent changes in fiber-optic technology, though, cause many foreign-to-foreign phone calls, e-mails and other electronic messages to pass through American-based switching points. Earlier this year, a foreign intelligence court judge ruled that warrants were required to intercept those calls as they passed through American lines. The warrant process, McConnell said, takes 200 hours per phone number and is unnecessarily time consuming and results in lost opportunities to collect intelligence.

This spring, with the backing of President Bush, McConnell and other intelligence officers lobbied hard for a bill that would eliminate the need for a warrant in such cases.

Last month, Congress passed a temporary fix that allows intercepts without a warrant. It applies to wire communications involving foreign parties and to calls and e-mails in which one participant is U.S.-based, provided the overseas party is the object of a national security investigation.

The law expires in February. Making it permanent is "critical" toward "ensuring the protection of our nation," McConnell told the Senate Homeland Security Committee last week.

His spokesman, Ross Feinstein, said McConnell will bring that same message to the U.S. House this week.

Democrats are poised to offer their own legislation addressing what Pelosi called the "many deficiencies" in the law. Chief among them, says American Civil Liberties Union attorney Tim Sparapani, is the lack of "even limited court oversight" of the decision to tap a phone or read an e-mail.

Under the new law, "the court's role has been marginalized," Sparapani said. "Do we really want the attorney general and the director of national intelligence doing the oversight on their own decisions?"

McConnell's own action have also complicated his mission.

In August, shortly after the temporary intelligence bill was passed, he told a reporter for the El Paso (Texas) Times that 100 or fewer Americans had been targeted for intercepts. In a letter to McConnell, House Judiciary Committee Democrats called that a "selective disclosure of classified information" designed to "rebut the concern" that warrantless surveillance will amount to a large scale "dragnet."

Before the Senate Homeland Security Committee last week, McConnell appeared to say the temporary warrantless surveillance had helped produce the arrests this month of three Muslim men accused of planning attacks against Americans in Germany. He later issued a statement noting that intelligence in the German case was not collected under the warrantless surveillance authority.

Spokesman Feinstein said McConnell plans a written response to the House Judiciary Committee Democrats. Feinstein said McConnell would not respond to suggestions from Harman and others that he has become a Bush partisan.

In his El Paso Times interview, McConnell said it was he who first suggested to the Bush administration that surveillance law needed updating because "technology had changed."

"I'm an apolitical figure," McConnell said.

Re: Bob Collins NEEDS an Ol' Fashioned Ass Whoopin' like Dan Burisch Got!‏
From: Mc47 (Mc47@donet.com)
Sent: Mon 9/17/07 1:51 PM
To: George Knapp (gknapp@klastv.com)
Cc: Freedom Fighter (planetaryfreedomfighter@hotmail.com); Victor Martinez (victorgm@webtv.net)

George--What nailed the coffin shut for me was what Kit's National Academy of Science person said in Oct 2005 over the Q94.I strongly suspect knowing what Counter-intelligence does that Burisch (Crain) was given the name Crain which was the real name of a person who worked in the Scientific Intelligence Division at Groom Lake, but this person was not a Microbiologist. In Oct 2005 Colm K said:

10/20/2005 9:49 AM: colm@colmkelleher.com wrote:
When you go back and read Burisch's research proposal to NIH and his NASA grant application, both of which were at NIDS, and both of which predate all the alleged EBE stuff, it is obvious that Burisch had the command of biological and biochemical technical language roughly corresponding to a first year graduate student. He had sufficient know how to conduct Medline searches.
When these docs first came to my attention several years ago, it seemed pretty obvious that he or somebody he knew had simply keyed in multiple keywords into Medline searches, downloaded the abstracts and then simply cut and pasted various sentences from different Medline abstracts into a quasi coherent document. The document was designed to seem impressive to somebody not doing molecular biology for a living. From watching the various responses over the years, it looks like the document accomplished what it was intended to accomplish----fooling a lot of people.
I concur with Kit's expert.
Colm

George Knapp wrote:
Thank goodness it’s all so clear and simple. Not convoluted at all.

That’s sarcasm, in case you missed it.

What a total and complete crock this is. Look at the extreme lengths they go to in explaining the very obvious contradictions.




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From: Freedom Fighter [mailto:planetaryfreedomfighter@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 4:56 PM
To: Victor Martinez
C

Subject: RE: Bob Collins NEEDS an Ol' Fashioned Ass Whoopin' like Dan Burisch Got!



Greetings, all:

Re: Dan Burisch summary @ http://projectcamelot.net/dan_burisch_summary.html

[Begin quote]

"The following text was written by Dan Burisch's colleague, Marci McDowell, with a number of clarifying footnotes and other links added by Project Camelot . . ."

[End quote]

Marci is now claiming when Dan was in Mississippi "(f)earing for his health under the stress of these unpredicted results (and fearing that they might have ruined one of their best scientists) they decided to take steps to reverse what they'd done. Dan was collected and taken back into secure facilities, and eventually returned to Las Vegas, where the family had been re-established to await his return. Thankfully Dan recovered from this and settled back into his normal life in Las Vegas, concentrating on his research and personal studies."

In actual fact, real estate and other records located several years ago by a real estate researcher indicated Burisch and his family were living at the home of his wife's parents in Mississippi and got into a domestic dispute with his wife's parents who were facing eviction from the home they were staying at, which resulted in Burisch and his family moving in with a friend of his wife's before they moved back to Las Vegas.

Randy Kitchur

===

http://projectcamelot.net/dan_burisch_summary.html

Dan Burisch summary

[Excerpt]

So, the decision was taken to try to modify his memories of rebelling against their authority (in essence the entire period of time where he and I worked on Mars issues, and wrote the book Eagles Disobey: The Case for Inca City, Mars) and move he and his family to a new location, with new cover jobs, and a completely different environment.

To facilitate this, Dan was taken up north, and underwent a process involving experimental neuropeptides (I do not know all the details). Afterward, he was placed in Mississippi where he was supposed to begin a new life. What nobody in the Committee of the Majority had counted upon was the fact that Dan's mind utterly rejected the conditioning, and soon thereafter he began to experience memory breakthroughs.

Fearing for his health under the stress of these unpredicted results (and fearing that they might have ruined one of their best scientists) they decided to take steps to reverse what they'd done. Dan was collected and taken back into secure facilities, and eventually returned to Las Vegas, where the family had been re-established to await his return. Thankfully Dan recovered from this and settled back into his normal life in Las Vegas, concentrating on his research and personal studies.






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Subject: RE: Bob Collins NEEDS an Ol' Fashioned Ass Whoopin' like Dan Burisch Got!
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 19:51:03 -0500

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George Knapp did a fantastic job last night on Coast to Coast AM tearing into Burisch's Saga. I'm very surprised an irate Marci or Danny didn't call in.. LOL

I guess they're going try to ignore and hope its blows over before resurfacing.. LOL!

Re: Bob Collins NEEDS an Ol' Fashioned Ass Whoopin' like Dan Burisch Got!‏
From: Mc47 (Mc47@donet.com)
Sent: Mon 9/17/07 1:51 PM
To: George Knapp (gknapp@klastv.com)
Cc: Freedom Fighter (planetaryfreedomfighter@hotmail.com); Victor Martinez (victorgm@webtv.net)

George--What nailed the coffin shut for me was what Kit's National Academy of Science person said in Oct 2005 over the Q94.I strongly suspect knowing what Counter-intelligence does that Burisch (Crain) was given the name Crain which was the real name of a person who worked in the Scientific Intelligence Division at Groom Lake, but this person was not a Microbiologist. In Oct 2005 Colm K said:

10/20/2005 9:49 AM: colm@colmkelleher.com wrote:
When you go back and read Burisch's research proposal to NIH and his NASA grant application, both of which were at NIDS, and both of which predate all the alleged EBE stuff, it is obvious that Burisch had the command of biological and biochemical technical language roughly corresponding to a first year graduate student. He had sufficient know how to conduct Medline searches.
When these docs first came to my attention several years ago, it seemed pretty obvious that he or somebody he knew had simply keyed in multiple keywords into Medline searches, downloaded the abstracts and then simply cut and pasted various sentences from different Medline abstracts into a quasi coherent document. The document was designed to seem impressive to somebody not doing molecular biology for a living. From watching the various responses over the years, it looks like the document accomplished what it was intended to accomplish----fooling a lot of people.
I concur with Kit's expert.
Colm

Britons Withdraw Billions in Bank Run
Published on Monday, September 17, 2007.

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Source: Associated Press
Shares in one of Britain's largest lenders tumbled another 30 percent Monday as customers, driven by fears of insolvency, made run on the bank and withdrew billions.

Treasury Secretary Alistair Darling sought to assure depositors that their money was safe, even as former U.S. Federal Reserve Board chairman Alan Greenspan warned of difficulties ahead in Britain's booming housing market.

Trading in the bank's shares was briefly suspended Monday morning, but not before they tumbled 140 pence to 298 pence ($2.81 to $5.98), on top of a 31 percent fall Friday. By late morning, shares hovered around 300 pence.

Northern Rock, Britain's fifth-largest mortgage lender, issued a profit warning Friday and Bank of England agreed to provide it with emergency funding.

The British Broadcasting Corp. reported Sunday that customers had withdrawn nearly 2 billion pounds ($4 billion) from Northern Rock accounts, though CEO Adam Applegarth refused to give a figure.

Speculation about a takeover ran rampant.

"The images of customers queuing up in the high street has done irreparable damage to the franchise," said Nic Clarke, an analyst for Charles Stanley & Co. in London.

"There is value in Northern Rock for a predator with a strong balance sheet but they would have to move quickly to save whatever is left of Northern Rock's reputation," he added.

Customers lined up outside of Northern Rock branches across the country on Friday. On Monday, dozens of customers waited outside for branches in Birmingham to open, and more than 100 waited in Leeds.

"With the Wall Street crash in the 1920s, people were frightened and reluctant to put their money into banks so they kept it under their mattresses," said Roy Hornsby, 69, who was part of a line of about 50 people in Newcastle.

"So you can understand why older people are going to want to take money out," he said as he prepared to withdraw some, but not all, of his money from Northern Rock.

Darling, like he did Friday, appealed for calm.

"Whatever happens, people can get their money out of the bank, they don't need to worry about that," Darling said in an interview on GMTV.

"The whole reason that we provide support if a bank gets into difficulties, like Northern Rock, is to help it get the money to tide it over these difficulties."

Northern Rock extended its opening hours to accommodate customers.

"The way to restore confidence is very simple _ it's business as normal, it's allowing customers to do exactly what they want to do," Northern Rock's Applegarth told BBC radio.

"The customers are perfectly entitled to take out their money. We have got their money, the problem for us is the logistics of getting to them."

Northern Rock's problems came against the background of signs of cooling in Britain's booming housing market.

In an interview published Monday in The Daily Telegraph, former U.S. Federal Reserve Board chairman Alan Greenspan warned that Britain was susceptible to some of the problems now roiling the U.S. real estate market.

"Britain is more exposed than we are _ in the sense that you have a good deal more adjustable-rate mortgages," he said.

2433 E. Tropicana Ave #420 Las Vegas, NV 89121

Address to send information helping expose the Coverup:
Dondep or Dagwood
2433 E. Tropicana Ave
#420
Las Vegas, NV 89121


Don Dagwood




Interesting place for the location of your movement.[See Yellow Push Pin in Photo] Just few blocks from the MAIN Air Transport Site out to Area 51.

Anyreason for this.??. :: perking Mr Spock Eyebrows ::



The Main Loading Hanger is I just above P in Transport

IMO I believe I know precisely what you're talking about.

I believe unconsciously, intuitively, many can sense the influence. They know some things aren't right with life, the way it's being conducted. We're mesmerized into beliefs and ways of being neurotic and think it's a cultural norm.

It breaks my heart to see some of the undermining rather than assistance many of the children that have gone wrong need.
The primary aim with the Higher Evolution has been to raise our consciousness...those that interfere with this plan, knowingly or unknowingly, is playing the Devils advocate.

Uncle John here: Dex, I don't believe that you have a good idea what I'm talking about.

I'm not talking about something wrong with the reality that we can see. I'm talking about something wrong with the reality that we can't see.

I'm talking about a reset, restart and reprogramming of the whole universe.

If this only exists in my mind, then nothing is going to change. I think that if I can't discuss this with a reasonably large group of thinking humans then what I see will have been seen in vain.

It is got to start somewhere. Who is going to be the first to take my hand.

It could be you Dex. Of course it could even be NS09. I'm sure it will not be dan or any other majestic representatives. I doubt that even the ET's can pursue this line of reasoning.

"One way or another, this darkness got to give."

I'm pretty sure I 'can' see what you see UJ...It's putting in the familiar perspective for others that's difficult.
You know once one attains to the perception of an exorcist, they never see the world in the same way as they did before.
They see the unseen in life's daily activities...
Theirs becomes a different realty from others.

They're just a bunch of seasoned old ufers playing the same old record, and sarky old George Knapp wants bloody vengeance. Simple as that. If any of them had a verbal duel with Dan_B (or is it _C now?) face to face, I know who would come out on top.

it's weird MJC - but everything is different when you have met the people in question face to face....

Having met and worked with Knapp on a number of stories (I was doing design work at KLAS for a year) he is not a bad guy - just doing his job and he has done a lot to expose many stories on local scams and corruption in Vegas - not just Burisch and UFO stuff.

... and you know, bloody vengeance sounds pretty good to me at this point.

I do not believe "Danny" would do so well holding his own in a face to face verbal duel -- I have met him too....

They're just a bunch of seasoned old ufers playing the same old record, and sarky old George Knapp wants bloody vengeance. Simple as that. If any of them had a verbal duel with Dan_B (or is it _C now?) face to face, I know who would come out on top.



Fair point, Starry. Unlike you, Don, UJ and Dag, I've not met any of the main players in the flesh. I've only seen a bunch of interviews with Dan and about 4 or 5 reports done by George Knapp.

George Knapp is an amusing and quick-witted bloke, there's no denying that. He's also a fine investigative reporter. However, since he and Dan crossed swords, Knapp appears (I could be wrong here, being an onlooker from afar) to have an axe to grind with Dan. When he's "on topic", Dan_B takes some beating (even when shackled by Marci), which is what I meant by verbal duel. "Off-topic" may be a completely different ballgame, though.

BTW, when I speak in defence of Dan, I'm merely backing his ET testimony. If you look at my past posts, you'll find I'm highly critical in the way he and his handlers have treated you, Don and Dag.

You are a conspiracy guy...lol,....but yeah!

It's right around the corner from where Don use to live, and from where I live now, (in that photo, I can see my pool!!!!!). So your answer....conveniance.

I watch Janet fly out 4 to 8 times a day. They have a fleet of about 12 to 14 white w/red stripe planes stored by the executive port at the McCarrin Airport that I get to view everyday to work. If you think that is wierd, I also have a project located right by Nellis AFB. I get to see the convented U2 bomber fly out at leat once a month. Daily, I watch spy planes, bombers, and fighters running in and out, litterally, a hundred times a day. It's where 'Top-Gun' is based. However, since when have they ran exersized with FULLY loaded fighters, that I never see return???? Strange.

Dag

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George Knapp is an American investigative journalist. (born Woodbury, NJ)

Residing in Las Vegas, Nevada since 1979 and working primarily for KLAS-TV since 1981, Knapp has investigated and reported on many subjects, but outside of Las Vegas, he is probably best known to the general public for his work on various anomalous phenomena.

In the late 1980s, Knapp broke the story of Bob Lazar (who claimed to have worked on extraterrestrial UFOs at the secretive Area 51). In 1991, Knapp left KLAS to go to work for Altamira Communications, a public relations firm whose clients included those favoring the Yucca Mountain nuclear dump 90 miles north of Las Vegas [1]. Three years later, he returned to KLAS as a reporter. In late 1990 and early 2000, Knapp publicized the so-called Skinwalker Ranch in northeast Utah, where many strange events are alleged to have occurred.

He wrote a regular column called "Knappster," appearing in the now-defunct alternative newsweekly, Las Vegas Mercury, and has occasionally been a guest and guest host of the paranormal-themed syndicated radio program Coast To Coast AM.

According to his official KLAS-TV profile[2], Knapp has won seven Mark Twain Awards, eight Emmys, two regional Edward R. Murrow Awards, and one national Edward R. Murrow Award for a 2004 investigation into vote fraud. Additionally, Knapp's investigation of the Lazar/Area 51 story was named the best "Individual Achievement by a Journalist" by United Press International in 1990.

INTERVIEW WITH GEORGE KNAPP OF KLAS-TV (LAS VEGAS, NEVADA) ON
NOVEMBER 17, 1989. INTERVIEWED BY CHUCK HARDER, HOST AND
MODERATOR OF 'FOR THE PEOPLE' OF THE SUN RADIO NETWORK.



CHUCK HARDER

My guest has (now) called in and I'm going to run down who he is
and where he's from for a number of reasons, some of them for his
own protection. George, are you there...



GEORGE KNAPP

Hello Chuck.



CHUCK HARDER

Please tell us, you are George Knapp, right...



GEORGE KNAPP

That's right.



CHUCK HARDER

George, what do you do for a living?



GEORGE KNAPP

I'm a journalist with KLAS-TV in Las Vegas, the CBS affiliate
here.



CHUCK HARDER

So you are a TV newsman...



GEORGE KNAPP

Right.



CHUCK HARDER

And you work for Channel 8, KLAS-TV in Las Vegas, Nevada...



GEORGE KNAPP

Right.



CHUCK HARDER

I understand that you have come upon some very interesting
information and you've done some special reports, could you tell
us about it...?



GEORGE KNAPP

Well we just finished a nine-part series -- what may be the
longest series that's ever been done on this subject dealing with
UFOs.



Our research actually started about two and a half years ago, a
fellow named John Lear, the son of the guy who invented the Lear
Jet brought some of this information to our attention. In May of
this year, Mr. Lear introduced us to a fellow who claims to have
worked at a secret base designated S-4...on a top-secret Nevada
test site...the fellow said that he worked on flying saucers,
that the technology was not from Earth, and we interviewed him
live in silhouette in May, the response was incredible...we got
response from Japan, parts of that interview aired on radio in
Europe, and six different European countries...so we decided with
this much interest we might want to take a look at the subject in
more depth.



We started doing that and the first thing we found out is that
really UFOs have not been given a fair shake by science, by
government, by religion and especially by journalism. Millions
of people have seen UFOs, millions more believe...I think the
latest Gallup poll shows about 70 percent of college-educated
Americans believe that there's something to it, but because of
the tabloid aspects...'The Girl Who Gives Birth to 52 UFO Babies'
-- kind of things in the National Enquirer, people have shied
away from it...Serious people have shied away. Scientists,
although they might be interested in searching the universe for
radio signals really don't want to look in their own back yard --
they can't get grants...people would laugh at them. Journalism -
- the coverage is generally condescending and quirky, especially
by the networks, as in the coverage of this UFO that supposedly
landed in the USSR, people making fun of it...so, we figured out
that millions of people want to know as Roy Neary, the guy in the
'Close Encounters' movie said, 'What's going on?' So we started
investigating it. The focal point of the story being this fellow
who said he worked at S-4. We broke his identity last Friday.
His name is Bob Lazar, he is a former scientist who worked at Los
Alamos National Labs, he is a physicist...we did a lot of
checking on him and found interestingly enough that his life was
disappearing around him. In other words we called Los Alamos
Labs and they said they never heard of him. We called MIT where
he says he went to school and they had never heard of him. We
called for his Birth records and they had disappeared...as if
someone was trying to make him a non-person. We did however
confirm some of the information that he had given us...we found
newspaper articles from Los Alamos indicating that he had indeed
worked there...we found an old telephone book from the lab with
his name in it, which gave him a certain amount of credibility in
our eyes. The story he tells is an incredible one. He was hired
to work at this area called S-4 on the test site, he was flown up
to a place called Groom Lake -- taken by bus with no windows to
S-4...the base is built almost to look like its part of the
desert with sand covered hanger doors, he goes inside and he
starts reading these briefing papers dealing with UFOs! Pictures
of UFOs on the walls, pictures of aliens, autopsy reports on
alien bodies...things of this nature -- he's pretty amazed. Then
he sees the discs. He says there are nine of the discs up there,
they are powered by an anti-matter reactor which produces its own
gravitational field...technology that does not exist on this
planet, and the interesting thing...he thought for a while that
perhaps it was just an advanced secret scientific project that
our government is pursuing until he looked inside one of the
discs and noticed the small furniture...all the chairs were built
like for children...and then things started coming together for
him. Are you with me Chuck?



CHUCK HARDER

I'm listening.



GEORGE KNAPP

Er, I'm not sure how much detail you want me to go in on...



CHUCK HARDER

Oh I think you ought to keep going.



GEORGE KNAPP

Well, this fellow was up there for only a few months. And it was
a rough place for him to work...the security was so hard and he
was being harassed at home, his phones being tapped...plus he's
on to what he thinks are the secrets of the universe...he starts
to tell other people about it, confide with close friends.



CHUCK HARDER

Ummmmmm.....



GEORGE KNAPP

He had the date of a couple of tests and on two consecutive
weekends he took people up into the desert outside of the
boundaries of area S-4, and they video taped the saucers...what
looks like a saucer coming over the mountains!



CHUCK HARDER

Wow...



GEORGE KNAPP

We showed that video as well...



CHUCK HARDER

Uh-huh....



GEORGE KNAPP

Five different people that we interviewed that had gone up there
confirmed the same story...we also had confirmation of other bits
of his story from other people, a former security guard who
worked up there...who said he had seen the saucers, a former
technician...



CHUCK HARDER

By the way, excuse me, I have some letters from some people
postmarked from that area, one inside of a base, who tells me
what you're saying is true. Keep going.



GEORGE KNAPP

Ah, we also found a Nellis Airman who had been on radar duty at
Nellis airbase which is here just south of the area that this
fellow is talking about...he reported numerous times seeing...



CHUCK HARDER

George, excuse me...let me do the half hour news break, I want
you to tell your story, I want America to hear it...please stand
by.



>>>>At this point the SUN RADIO NETWORK runs the half hour news
headlines and sports audio package from UPI<<<<After>>>>At this point Chuck Harder tells George Knapp that there is a
break coming up and after the break would he please tell Mr. and
Mrs. America what they should do to get the truth.<<<<



CHUCK HARDER

I hope that Mr. and Mrs. America make note of the name George
Knapp and Bob Lazar so that if anything ever happens to them, you
know why.



GEORGE KNAPP

Someone should tell us what's going on...TV and movies have
conditioned us...we won't panic...Jimmy Carter when he ran for
President promised that if he was elected that he vowed to open
all the UFO files and he didn't -- we wrote to him asking why and
he didn't respond. We want the government to come clean. If
that takes a Congressional Investigation...that's something that
should be looked at. If it is launched we have to make sure that
there are no CIA, contractors and the like involved otherwise
people aren't going to believe it. We've seen enough of this
whitewash stuff over the years. If there's nothing to the story,
then open up the files and prove it to us!



CHUCK HARDER

OK, have the government let the press into these areas and don't
first clean them out...

George Knapp Then:



Lordy! Look at hair! You know those were the 80s! LOL

actually, color the hair in that photo white and it still looks like him....
the other picture you posted looks like a video grab.
go to the lasvegasnow.com site and you can probably find a better promo of him.