I wish I could convey this in better terms but the words to describe it fails me. But I will try to express it.

I didn’t accept Vallee’s views just because they are out there. I came to accept Vallee’s explanations for families and my own experiences with the ufo phenomena in 1970 (which I posted extensively about in the past.)

There is a ‘heavy’ palatable spiritual accept to a “Contactee” experience enough so that it leaves the contactee feeling that one is not in contact with beings from out there nor from the future. Instead beings of immense ancient wisdom and intelligence and yes even a humorous side. They actually like to play!

Example:

Back in the mid 1986 we had family and friend picnic at my parents old house (the same house where the experiences in 1970s occurred.) My siblings had their spouses with them and friends. When all the family conversation (one of the rare time) began to relate our UFO experiences with the spouses of my siblings. The coversation got deep. My sister in laws and brother in laws looked at as like “all of you are nuts there are no such thing as UFOs..LOL”. What they didn’t realize was that as we were getting deep in our family experience in 1970s. Behind them above them up in the sky three silver spheres literally zoomed out of a summers thunderhead cloud and were basically playing cat and mouse catch in the sky. The spheres were literally playing like kittens joyfully and playful with each and doing some incredible beyond physical antics with each other. As below my inlaws were arguing “there can’t be anything like UFOs its physically Impossible!” lol As they got more and more persistent. The spheres actually projected a sense of disgust and their play/dance got even more intense like “I’ll show you!”

Karen my brothers wife dug her heels into the argue stood up and simply rather angerly said “There are no such things as UFO!” Meanwhile right behind her above her a sphere come to a dead stop in the sky right above her head. Bill and Jim my brother in laws also joined in. My father, mother brothers and sisters and I though were on verge of laughing tears. It was a very surreal scene to say the least.

Then something very strange happened. All of my siblings and I got for a lack of a better term “A message from the three spheres, a deep sudden feeling as if something was suddenly communicated to us. We looked at each other and knew all of us were getting the same ‘impression.’. We simply said in total agreement ‘They, want us to show them. Do you agree?” Just then behind Karen, Jim and Bill in the sky the spheres flew into a triangle diamond formation remained there. I grinned and pointed up to sky beind them.

They turned and looked.. Jim and Bill’s beer slipped out their hands and shattered on the patio and all we heard from their lips was OH MY GAWD! .. The spheres remained in formation for 1-2 minutes then zoomed off and disappeared into the clouds. . Karen spent the rest of the night with her camera in hand waiting for their return thinking she’d get the picture of the ufo century.. .. They “Knew” and “Know” when you try to capture them on film her wait was futile.. We just comforted her.

The next weeks that followed we had minor military surveillance going on around my family it didn’t last long though and went quiet. “They” also know. Don’t ask me how but they do!

If the ufo investigators want the Truth; without having to depend on the blarney of the supposed government insiders. Then in my humble opinion they should stop hanging around government insiders (I highly doubt they have any answers) and start heading out to true experts, the true shamans, mystics and esoterically like.

For I can tell you the “The Phenomena” has a highly encased spiritual aspect. Or what we call the supernatural. “They” act and behave like the mythical ‘tricksters’ of legend and myth, the “wee folk, faery, the ginns and alike…and lastly I totally con-cern with Vallee’s beliefs and hypothesis.

Its one of reasons I began to dive deep into world of magic, mystics and the occult for in those old old esoterically beliefs I truly believe it does explain logically the UFO phenomena in a round about way.

We are not being visited by entities from “out there” but by entitles that have always been here on the earth and among us. But some where along the line the majority of the human population lost the ability to perceive them. Either by design or by natural means and evolution. And who ever is beyond the Wizard of Oz’s curtain is trying to correct that molding and shaping (as if clay) the perceptions of the entire population and society.

I (along with my siblings) strongly believe that PTB are desperately desperately attemptting to beat the “The Wizard” at his own game and mold reality into
their wish. Before “They” the PTB are written out of ultimate script and the entire population is propelled into a new paradigm shift of what is true reality and consciousness.

In the end Vallee may or may not be a member of PTB, but he is speaking sense. Hell I’d even say Vallee might be “Them” himself.. Lol


Just some thoughts,

Shady

Just some favorite quotes of fictional fellow Hoosier.. That some times I even feel like him when it comes to my experiences what I've seen.. Although I haven't resorted to building Devil's Tower in my living room YET! LOL



Claude Lacombe: Mr. Neary, what do you want?
Roy Neary: I just want to know that it's really happening.

Claude Lacombe: Major Walsh, it is an event sociologique.

Roy Neary: I know this sounds crazy, but ever since yesterday on the road, I've been seeing this shape. Shaving cream, pillows... Dammit! I know this. I know what this is! This means something. This is important.

Roy Neary: Is that it? Is that all you're gonna ask me? Well I got a couple of thousand goddamn questions, you know. I want to speak to someone in charge. I want to lodge a complaint. You have no right to make people crazy! You think I investigate every Walter Cronkite story there is? Huh? If this is just nerve gas, how come I know everything in such detail? I've never been here before. How come I know so much? What the hell is going on around here? Who the hell are you people?!!

David Laughlin: We didn't choose this place! We didn't choose these people! They were invited!
Claude Lacombe: They belong here more than we.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=iX_EuN46Ad8

(Just catching up.....I see you posted as the official Nightshade09 at GLP, Shady....way to remind the newbies and veterans too.)




I've attempted to confirm the information, and here's what was included:

The source is a senator, but which one of two I can't determine. I'd like to just put it out here openly, but it might risk having that senator harassed. The syntax argues for one, but the attitude argues for the other. The information indicates that the former contact who had told me that Burisch (er, Crain apparently....he's gone back to Crain, which sounds plausible since he's transferred his emotional bond to Marci and therefore no need to keep his wife's maiden name when it comes to his position in this Sion group) was to be No. 1 and McDowell was to be No. 10 were apparently wrong, but I doubt I spelled that out here on-thread because virtually everything said about the Dan-namic Duo was pooh-poohed as more 'storytelling'. That, together with one of the documents, indicated that only the former correspondent who had given the particulars on the Priore that they were sworn to secrecy to could have passed the information on to this new correspondent. He (the new source) laments that the "tide is coming in" and it's unlikely anyone can do anything about it. He doesn't come right out and say it, but the entire letter is indicative of someone who recognizes that the majority of the powermongers in the Illuminati and the American black-ops community have been bamboozled into believing that Dan and Marci are 'freedom fighters for the common man', yet this source knows it's hogwash designed to keep the population lulled until the truth will be plain for all to see. Only someone "close" to Dan, Marci, or McConnell could produce the accompanying document, and that's precisely the part of the entire history of my contact with these 'insiders': a document, link, some scrap of paper.....whatever it is, SOMETHING that validates the source is authentic is always included. It would be different if someone creative let's say got behind a computer screen and wrote out some clever piece of fiction and then sent it off to our address, but no. This isn't like Shady's "X" postings at GLP that snookered alot of people into thinking "X" was a real insider (remember that, Shady?).

There are a number of xeroxed documents that also came with the letter, which reminds me: a month or 2 ago I received the following email, which would actually tie in with some of the documents. I thought perhaps it was yet another attempt to "psy-op" me, and when he didn't reply to my replies, I gave up. He may have been caught, as my email is constantly watched, but the tone of his email was chilling, frankly:


From: (name redacted)
To: Don Deppeller

Subject: Have intel.

Dear sir,

First of all I want to appologise for my bad english. I live in Belgium and it was a long time since I last used these skills.

It has taken me some time before I decided to contact you. I was recently involved in a situation that made me think and do some research on the net.

The Dan Burisch story has stroke me since it resembles the story of a man I have met. For months now I am having trouble sleeping. I am hoping that contacting Mr Burisch might help me live in peace.

All I want to do is to tell my story, and ask his opinion.

Is this possible in any way? Can you establish contact?

The situation I was involved with, was during my job. I work for Staatsveiligheid, Belgium Secret Service. I am but a small foot soldier, conducting discrete observations, reporting back to my c.o. We work on "need to know bases". I believe to have met a man who used to work with Mr Burisch, during an intervention early this year.

For OPSEC reasons I do not want tis info to become public. I have made myself an email adress for this contact only. I will not reveal my id, I like my job and country. I only want to know wether the man I met, told the truth. If he did than I might never catch a good night sleep again but at least I will no longer be asking myself questions.

Please contact me, I am willing to give the full story if you are intrested.

Yours sincerely

Mr Jos

Since I haven't heard back for over a month now, I thought it might be helpful to post this publicly since it might generate a snail-mail explanation in the drop-box. I think if this were a legitmate approach, I would have either heard back or, the source has been permanently scared away. That is, IF the source is still alive.

The documents include photographs of certain properties in Belgium, which is why I made this connection just now.

Oh Marci do show the "Submitted" screen next time instead of just the forum field. Anyone can fill out a form field without the submitted screen to prove they actually did.

The proof is in the pudding


Shady

This btw is the actual F.B.I Tips screen. You will note it deals ONLY with Terrorist and Criminal Activity tips so sorry they don't deal with Internet gossip boards like Godlike Productions. Slander and Libel belongs to Civil Courts not Federal Crimes.

https://tips.fbi.gov/


But impersonating a Federal Government Officer or Intelligence Community of ANY sort falls into Federal Crime, Federal Offense.

Who knows you might have already been reported

Although I do not know the nature of what she posted Shady -- having looked into alerting the FBI myself about the dynamic D+M duo and their slandering sidekicks -- the FBI does not and is not really interested in "cyber stalking" or libel cases. Get a lawyer M - litigation is the only way to go... maybe all those who have been libeled by D+M can respond in a class action...

just a thought

rense.com

ET Exposure Law Passed By
Congress Years Ago - Why?

9-21-7

On October 5, 1982, Dr. Brain T. Clifford of the Pentagon announced at a press conference ('The Star', New York, Oct. 5, 1982) that contact between U.S. citizens and extra-terrestrials or their vehicles is strictly illegal. According to a law already on the books (Title 14, Section 1211 of the Code of Federal Regulations, adopted on July 16, 1969, before the Apollo moon shots), anyone guilty of such contact automatically becomes a wanted criminal to be jailed for one year and fined $5,000. The NASA administrator is empowered to determine with or without a hearing that a person or object has been 'extraterrestrially exposed' and impose an indeterminate quarantine under armed guard, which could not be broken even by court order. There is no limit placed on the number of individuals who could thus be arbitrarily quarantined.

The definition of 'extraterrestrial exposure' is left entirely up to NASA administrator, who is thus endowed with total dictatorial power to be exercised at his slightest caprice, which is completely contrary to the Constitution.

According to Dr. Clifford, whose commanding officers have been assuring the public for the last 39 years that UFOs are nothing more than hoaxes and delusions to be dismissed with a condescending smile: 'This is really no joke, it's a very serious matter.' This legislation was buried in the 1,211th subsection of the 14th section of a batch of regulations very few members of government probably bothered to read in its entirety, the proverbial needle in the haystack, and was slipped onto the books without public debate. Thus from one day to the next we learn that, without having informed the public, in its infinite wisdom, the government of the United States has created a whole new criminal class: UFO contactees.

The lame excuse offered by NASA as a sugar coating for this bitter pill is that extra-terrestrials might have a virus that could wipe out the human race. This is certainly one of the many possibilities inherent is such contact, but just as certainly not the only one , and in itself not a valid reason to make all contact illegal or to declare contactees criminals to be jailed and fined immediately.

It appears the primary effect of such a law would not be to prevent contact, it would be to silence witnesses. If enforced, the law would prevent publication of contactee reports except under cover of anonymity, and unleash a modern inquisition in the Land of the Free. However, it is unenforceable, so obviously absurd and unfair that the public will refuse to accept it. The citizens of the United States will greet it with a resounding Bronx cheer and laugh it out of court, forcing it to be repealed.

It should be replaced by clearly worded legislation, not open to interpretation in a multitude of different ways, humanely relevant to the contingency of E.T. contact, debated and passed by Congress openly instead of slipped through 'under the table' without the public being informed. According to NASA spokesman Fletcher Reel, the law as it stands is not immediately applicable, but in case of need could quickly be made applicable. What this means is that it is ambiguously worded, so that it can be interpreted either one way or the other, as the government desires.

It is certainly not a coincidence that Dr. Clifford held his press conference during the period when the popularity of the film E.T. was at its peak. As E.T. portrayed a type of extraterrestrial that was benevolent and lovable, the inference is that the press conference was intended to discourage attempts to communicate or fraternize with UFO occupants. However, instead of having the intended effect, it backfired, causing public furor. There may be some relationship between this fiasco and the next semi-officially endorsed attempt to deal with the subject of extra-terrestrials, the TV film V, which was featured with repeat performances and maximum publicity by major networks worldwide. The aliens portrayed in V are the most horrifying and repulsive nightmares imaginable, who are defeated thanks largely to a CIA hit man specializing in covert operations, the tough guy with the heart of gold who with the aid of the handsome hero saves the human race. This is obvious and transparent propaganda, designed to do what the government's widespread use of dis-information, and Dr. Clifford's press conference about the absurd lemon of a law already on the books failed to do: squelch attempts to communicate or fraternize with UFO occupants.

One way to avoid widespread panic at the announcement of the news that we are under surveillance by nonhuman intelligent beings with a technology far more sophisticated than our own is to point out that this situation is nothing new, but has literally been going on for millennia. If the 'flying dragons' mentioned in the I Ching intended to attack and destroy us, they could easily have carried out this objective long ago. Along with this article, the text of the E.T. Law will be presented. However, there are several points that I wish to make:

1211.101 Applicability.

The provisions of this part apply to all NASA manned and unmanned space missions...

I could dismiss this whole controversy as a tempest in a teacup if the above passage contained the word 'only', so as to read: 'The provisions of this part apply only to all NASA manned and unmanned space missions...' However, it does not contain that one little word which would have made such a big difference. If the government was suddenly faced with the accomplished fact of an undeniable overt E.T. visitation, this regulation could therefore, be construed as being applicable to all space missions, NASA or non NASA, whether of terrestrial or extra-terrestrial origin. As it stands, this law is applicable to UFO contact. The meaning would have to be stretched, but the built-in loophole does exist.

1211.102 Definitions.

(b) (2): Touched directly or been in close proximity to (or been exposed indirectly to )...

Even without involved in a UFO close encounter would become eligible for indefinite quarantine under armed guard according to the above. By including indirect exposure, the NASA administrator is empowered to make the definition mean just about anything he wants it to. An example of indirect exposure is given, but an example is not a definition. Unless indirect exposure is defined precisely, it can mean almost anything. The possibility is not specifically ruled out that other types of indirect exposure than the example given might be considered valid grounds to 'quarantine' a citizen or group of citizens.

In my opinion, it is vital that we challenge the validity of his law, for if it is allowed to stand unchallenged, UFO contactees and researchers may all meet behind barbed wire and armed guards somewhere in Alaska. I strongly urge everyone who reads the E.T. Law, Title 14, Section 1211 of the Code of Federal Regulations (at the end of this article), to clip it out, and send it on to your congressman, with a demand penciled in, to repeal this absurd and potentially lethal law. We must use reason, and transcend fear in order to make this planet a place where all may live in peace and harmony, as One.

Text of the E.T. Law

1211.100 Title 14 - Aeronautics and Space Part 1211 - Extra-terrestrial Exposure

1211.100 - Scope

This part establishes: (a) NASA policy, responsibility and authority to guard the Earth against any harmful contamination or adverse changes in its environment resulting from personnel, spacecraft and other property returning to the Earth after landing on or coming within the atmospheric envelope of a celestial body; and (b) security requirements, restrictions and safeguards that are necessary in the interest of national security.

1211.101 - Applicability

The provisions of this part to all NASA manned and unmanned space missions which land or come within the atmospheric envelope of a celestial body and return to the Earth.

1211.102 - Definitions

(a) 'NASA' and the 'Administrator' mean, respectively the National Aeronautics and Space Administration and the administrator of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration or his authorized representative.

(b) 'Extra-terrestrially exposed' means the state of condition of any person, property, animal or other form of life or matter whatever, who or which has:

(1) Touched directly or come within the atmospheric envelope or any other celestial body; or

(2) Touched directly or been in close proximity to (or been exposed indirectly to ) any person, property, animal or other form of life or matter who or which has been extra-terrestrially exposed by virtue of paragraph

(b)(1) of this section.

For example, if person or thing 'A' touches the surface of the Moon, and on 'A's' return to Earth, 'B' touches 'A' and, subsequently, 'C' touches 'B', all of these - 'A' through 'C' inclusive - would be extra-terrestrially exposed ('A' and 'B' directly; 'C' indirectly).

(c) 'Quarantine' means the detention, examination and decontamination of any persons, property, animal or other form of life or matter whatever that is extra-terrestrially exposed, and includes the apprehension or seizure of such person, property, animal or other form of life or matter whatever.

(d) 'Quarantine period' means a period of consecutive calendar days as may be established in accordance with 1211.104 (a). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Administrative Actions. The Administrator or his designee..shall in his discretion:

(1) Determine the beginning and duration of a quarantine period with respect to any space mission; the quarantine period as it applies to various life forms will be announced.

(2) Designate in writing quarantine officers to exercise quarantine authority.

(3) Determine that a particular person, property, animal, or other form of life or matter whatever is extra- terrestrially exposed and quarantine such person, property, animal, or other form of life or matter whatever. The quarantine may be based only on a determination, with or without the benefit of a hearing, that there is probable cause to believe that such person, property, animal or other form of life or matter whatever is extra-terrestrially exposed.

(4) Determine within the United States or within vessels or vehicles of the United States the place, boundaries, and rules of operation of necessary quarantine stations.

(5) Provide for guard services by contract or otherwise, as many be necessary, to maintain security and inviolability of quarantine stations and quarantined persons, property, animals or other form of life or matter whatever.

(6) Provide for the subsistence, health and welfare of persons quarantined under the provisions of this part.

(7) Hold such hearings at such times, in such manner and for such purposes as may be desirable or necessary under this part, including hearings for the purpose of creating a record for use in making any determination under this part for the purpose of reviewing any such determination.

(b) (3) During any period of announced quarantine, no person shall enter or depart from the limits of the quarantine station without permission of the cognizant NASA officer. During such period, the posted perimeter of a quarantine station shall be secured by armed guard.

(b) (4) Any person who enters the limits of any quarantine station during the quarantine period shall be deemed to have consented to the quarantine of his person if it is determined that he is or has become extra-terrestrially exposed.

(b) (5) At the earliest practicable time, each person who is quarantined by NASA shall be given a reasonable opportunity to communicate by telephone with legal counsel or other persons of his choice.

1211.107 Court or other process

(a) NASA officers and employees are prohibited from discharging from the limits of a quarantine station any quarantined person, property, animal or other form of life or matter whatever during order or other request, order or demand an announced quarantine period in compliance with a subpoena, show cause or any court or other authority without the prior approval of the General Counsel and the Administrator.

(b) Where approval to discharge a quarantined person, property, animal or other form of life or matter whatever in compliance with such a request, order or demand of any court or other authority is not given, the person to whom it is directed shall, if possible, appear in court or before the other authority and respectfully state his inability to comply, relying for his action on this 1211.107.

1211.108 Violations

Whoever willfully violates, attempts to violate, or conspires to violate any provision of this part or any regulation or order issued under this part or who enters or departs from the limits of a quarantine station in disregard of the quarantine rules or regulations or without permission of the NASA quarantine officer shall be fined not more that $5,000 or imprisoned not more than 1 year, or both.

================================== Write or call your congressman and tell him you want this law taken off the books.

This article was printed in The Open Line Newspaper (Environmental Stewards) August, 1992 in Spokane, WA 99223.

In the May issue of The Explorer, we reported the existence of a law making exposure to extraterrestrials illegal. This update recently appeared on the Internet. Thanks to Larry ( <mailto>CaptainDad@AOL.COM This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it ) for the research and the report!

For those of you that have been on this list for awhile you know we had a thread going about the Federal E. T. Law making 'extraterrestrial exposure' illegal. As the law was rather dated and someone asked if it was still current, I decided to do a little more research. I contacted Congressman Peter Barca who serves on the Science, Space and Technology Subcommittee to find out more (after all, we do pay their wages!), with the following results. This is an exact quote from the Federal Register, Volume 56, Number 81, Friday, April 26, 1991, 'Rules and Regulations.' Sorry to burst a few bubbles out in cyberland.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

National Aeronautics and Space Administration

14 CFR Part 1211 Extraterrestrial Exposure AGENCY: National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). ACTION: Final rule.

SUMMARY: NASA is removing 14 CFR part 1211 since is has served its purpose and is no longer in keeping with current policy.

EFFECTIVE DATE: April 26, 1991.

ADDRESSES: Office of Space Science and Applications, Code S, NASA Headquarters, Washington, DC 20546.

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Kathryn S. Schmoll, 202-453-1410.

List of Subjects in 14 CFR Part 1211: Extraterrestrial exposure,Environmental protection, Security measures, Space transportation and exploration.

PART 1211 [REMOVED]

14 CFR part 1211 (consisting of para 1211.100 through 1211.108) is hereby removed and reserved.

Richard H. Truly. Administrator


http://www.rense.com


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I wonder what was in part 1211?

Good Post Mr Frog!

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So, Dan Burisch (or "Crain", as he was then) is actually a wanted criminal if his allegations are true; instead of simply and vapidly taking his word for it, We The People should have a right to know exactly WHAT was promised and agreed to in the Tau-9 Treaty Conference For The Preservation of Humanity, NOT TO MENTION THE OF-9 Treaty, and ANY OTHER TREATIES Majestic 12 agreed to in our name.

Though aware of this before, Frog, the applicability of this law now makes perfect sense. (Expect major snorting, guffaws and the usual thuggery from SNEDs...... ).

1. How much does it cost to get a barrel of oil out of the ground in Saudi Arabia?

2. Who is always, by law, the first purchaser of any oil that is mined?

3. Who determines the price paid to the producer?

4. Choose one:

The huge markup on oil is taken by:

A. The Oil Companies

B. The answer to 2 above.

C. The answer to 3 above.

D. Other---write in answer.

I have a no Secrets Policy so in that spirit am posting my personal correspondence today for all of you to read:

Shady

Hmmmmm.........a little background would be helpful to the onlookers here:

Wri(gh)ting The Record

Originally, back in 2005, when Dan (and Marcia, although she may have known all along but acted just as surprised as he did) learned that he had been lied to by then-J-1, now DNI McConnell (what else is new?) about how anything he said after June 2004 could 'alter' the future (a la The Butterfly Effect), he became 'enrageed' (again, what else is new? Dadmiral - DNI McConnell - lies to Dan, Dan falls for it, then learns he's been 'had', then rages awhile until the next episode). He was then supposedly going to move to 'full disclosure', beginning with the Response To Request To Admit in our Canadian immigration case, followed by the Affidavit which reiterated the admission for any court of law. Then, he was to undergo a 'debriefing' which was to allow him to tell his life's story and the work he had done with the Zetan J-rod in the mid-90s, up at S-4. This 'debriefing', once vetted by the Dadmiral and the rest of his Majic henchmen, was to be conducted under continually rolling cameras at the home (actually, garage) of two people who had been allowed more access to Dan and Marcia than any other humans, people who called them friends at that time. (Their initials are A.G. & S.G.; they prefer to remain out of this debate, as the betrayal they experienced at the hands of Dan and Marcia - whom they treated as brother and sister - has left them disbelieving that anything of substance or anything worthwhile can come from them.) After having produced countless hours of videotape of Dan recounting his life's story to their cameras in their garage, with the primary effort at taping being made by a mutual acquaintance named Winston S. (surname with-held as he too suffered a major falling-out with Dan and Marcia). It was THIS individual, Winston S., who freely shared with me during a telephone call the fact that he had been trying to pitch Dan's story to a number of individuals in the film-making industry; almost to a man, they demurred on the project or outright dismissed it.

At some point, during this vaunted 'debriefing' in the garage, A.G. supposedly made a comment to Dan about how he had to focus his attention on the camera; the comment was apparently meant good-naturedly but also out of exasperation, but was used as an excuse to dismiss the efforts of not only A.G. and S.G., but also Winston S., who was alleged by Dan and Marcia to have "misrepresented" certain critical matters to both Dan and Marcia as well as the Hollywood people whom he was courting. Charges and counter-charges flew over the phone and in emails, and I even have some copies of emails Dan wrote to me accusing Bill Hamilton (whose friendship with Winston and A.G./S.G. preceded his relationship with Dan Burisch) of lying and being one of the worst humans on the planet. (Little did I know that I was to undergo the same routine of shunning and having my character assassinated; it's unfortunately a hallmark of the megalomania that this 'disclosure' has produced in the Primary Puppets.) Shortly after the G's and Winston were dismissed, Ron Garner (whose name appears early in this debate, so I have no qualms in recounting it now) stepped in to fill the gap, and signed his own deal with Dan and Marcia. However, he TOO underwent a drastic change once he was given the reins to the vaunted 'debriefing', but his behavior soon had Dan and Marcia distrusting him as well. For example; Ron was attempting to 'control' Dan's access to the 'ufers' at the nearby UFO conference taking place in Laughlin. He urged Dan to "tone down the 'warning' aspect of the message" in order to gain the ufers' acceptance of him. This enraged Dan, who at the time believed that the 'warning' was "half the message". (Little did he know that the Maji ALSO wanted him to 'tone down' the 'warning', to the point where any mention of it was an afterthought.) Ron then made the worst possible decision, when having promised Dan and Marci he would be coming over with the debriefing tapes, he postponed and postponed and then cancelled. Dan and Marcia then made a decision to fire him, get the tapes back, and wash their hands of him. I was there when Ron tried to phone and leave messages for them at Marcia's, but we would just sit there and listen to his messages, Marcia never picking up the phone. Dan was as angry as I've ever seen him, telling Marcia that if she spoke to him, she was to tell Ron that he wouldn't be able to meet, that he was "having another one of his seizures". I couldn't help but wince, thinking that after Ron was ousted, it would only be a matter of time before something wrong would be found with Starryeyes (Toni J.) and myself. The only shock was the manner in which it happened and the fact it was barely a month after Ron was gone that we were betrayed as well. (See, everyone that doesn't kowtow vapidly and glowingly to everything uttered by Dan becomes suspect, mostly to Marcia, who manipulates Dan's ego like a good baker can make dough rise; the disease they suffer from is probably a form of delusional megalomania, which isn't surprising once one learns of what they've been told about their own place in the firmament.)

In summary; the "TV producer" can ONLY be identified by hmself, Bill Hamilton, or Dan Burisch, but I daresay he (or she) is probably also familiar with Winston S., whose own story (along with that of A.G. and S. G.) has yet to be told.

God, I really MUST write the book, and sooner than later.......

Uncle John here: Oh dear, almost out of time.

9/22/07 Happy Birthday Boomer. (49)

I love that line:
The Mexicans said they had been forced to leave the U.S. because they were illegal immigrants there.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 2995115331

I hope one can get a clean, hi-res copy soon at

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

but now, that link is not working.

Google says >3 million have viewed this.

In a way the article is correct....
- yes, they are used to finance terrorism - by provided a source of income to these large terror enabling companies...

Blackwater yet again -
accused "terrorists" in Iraq by the Iraqi government.

check these out:

http://www.ruckus.org/warprofiteers/car ... midrez.pdf
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The War Profiteers Card Deck exposes some of the real war criminals in the US’s endless War of Terror. This is no Sunday bridge club. These are individuals and institutions that stack the deck against democracy in the rigged game of global power. Exposing their place in the house of cards illuminates the links among corporations, institutions, and government officials that profit from endless war. The US War of Terror is not about liberation, democracy, or UN resolutions. Plainly put, the War of Terror--whether in Iraq, Colombia, Afghanistan, or the USA--is about subjugation, resource extraction, and opening markets: a practice once referred to more honestly as colonialism.

Each suit in this deck represents a category of war profiteers:

This deck is designed to support on-going campaigns against many of the evil-doers present here. For more extensive information on each of the players and how you can get involved, please refer to the links section at the bottom of each profile.

http://www.ruckus.org/warprofiteers/

Following on from the...er...ahem...controversial "Horned One in the clouds" earth images that UJ recently posted, I'm reminded of the bizarre images captured on videotape and film from the smoke billowing from the World Trade Center towers in 2001 -- a series of images coming from no less than CNN themselves...







I suppose the human brain tends to look for patterns and shapes in things they perceive, as that grey matter of ours is always looking for meanings and connections, even in seemingly intangible things, but the eyes, nose, mouth and horns of a devil in the black and gray smoke clearly impressed upon millions and millions of brains out there. Whether what was perceived was just a coincidence of the smoke combining with the light and shadow to create these images, or intentional by some non-human intelligence, I guess we'll never know. Non-human intelligences are leaving geometric shapes in crop fields all over the world, so why not leave an image to remember in an event that changed the world for ever? BTW, I think the latter unlikely, but stranger things have happened in this world.

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Starry, I read in a Sunday tabloid today that BlackWater currently have about 138,000 mercenaries on their books. The figure seemed rather high to me...

Bush tries to grant himself and entire administration immunity for war crimes dating back to 9/11/01

Wonder what he is afraid of?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBUkxvfL_eE


Shot at 2007-09-07

You know is it just me or does it really seem that with each passing day of headlines we somewhere along the lines slipped into Twilight Zone.

I'm seriously gripping my Passport a bit tighter these days. An SERIOUSLY starting to think its time to leave the United States... thank gawd for my dual citizenship. I think its time to go back to Eastern Europe.
Living on the Boarder of the Former Soviet Union is starting to seem safer there then here..lol

Shady

Has MM had a Sense of humour bypass?

Isn't Gordon Novel the guy DB used to say was an assassin?

ooooh--- scary!

Many of the hard core and more conservative JFK researchers (the ones with intelligence ) claim that Novel was one of the three men that stood on the grassy Knoll in front of JFK's limo along side the infamous umbrella man. Some even claim he was the umbrella man that opened it to signal the shooters that JFK was in the needed position for a cross fire.

Was he wasn't he who knows. Either way the man has recored that should give anyone the creeps! I most certianly won't have anything to do with.

I do find it interesting though the 'crowd' he keeps on Victor's list.

Shady

My own little tussle with Mr Novel earlier today in Victors list in a small circle of emails..


Shady
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A George Knapp post from Godlikeproductions. worth cross posting here:

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Thanks for posting George Knapp's post , Shady...


this is really scary too....
it was on the front page of the Washington Post

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 47_pf.html


makes it seem a bit more realistic that maybe it was not (only?) because of DB that we were watch...

Don and I used to travel a lot... when we had decent jobs - before all the crap happened.

I also had a lot of politically active international friends and Don politically involved with the Dems... and there were those letters to Cheney about the theft of the presidency when it was obvious that Gore had won....

The other day I called my friend in DC who is from South Africa (has been in the states for about 20+ years and I have known him that long)

-- and it was really obvious that our phone was being screwed with ...
I had called him out of the blue (I have not talked to him in 6 years although we send e-mail notes...just not on the phone).

Anyway, he was apparently on-line and I left him a message for him to send me a note as to a good time to call.. so he did and I did - I could not get a clean connection - every word I said was echoed back at me at a very high volume. I could hardly hear him but he could not hear the echos. I tried three times in a row and finally used a cell phone.