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Nightshadoe 09, aka Shady, Edgars F ;)
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Leo McKern of the "Prisoner"

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I'll ask this again..Remember? if your proposed photo of you isn't Leo, can you post another one of you showing the same shades or you holding up two fingers would do quite nicely.
Then I'll believe that's really you and not another hoodwink.
How about it?

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I'd like to add to your list a prison monetary spending complaint in last Monday's L. A. Times, in the B section on page B-5..it reads

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The prisons are now crammed with 173,000 inmates in spaces built for 100,000.
Meanwhile, A 7.9 billion prison expansion program is poking along, with new cell beds expected to cost--$222,000 each.???
"We don't even spend $10,000 on a school child."
complains Sen. Gloria Romero (D-Los Angeles), A longtime prison reformer. (snip)

Those beds have nothing to them. Flat steel on a wall. How is this possible? I think the Attorney General should be alerted to this one. It's worst than the army paying $400 a hammer. What is this scam? A case for corrupt kickbacks?
I can't wrap my mind around people getting away with this.

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Here's another one of me not having my morning coffee. Btw that's a genuine Australian outback hat I have on. ;)

As for the Prisoner. My most favorite show in the world! I would recommend the entire 13 episode series as a MUST have in a UFO investigators kit.

Back in the day when my family had to deal with Military Surveillance of my family and the MIB crap / Psy-Op. Believe it not this fantastic show taught us how to fight back. It kept us sane threw insane times. Many of the Psy-Ops good old Number six used came in handy against them.. LOL

Why even Gordon Novel is terrorifed by me ;)


You tube even had the best confrontation scene! :)

You must conform!
No.6 and No.2 and The Ultimate Test. [The Prisoner 1967-68]


http://youtube.com/watch?v=-xNuQ7Do_Ro


An who can forget the openning to one of the greatest shows ever made! ;)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_EphiSit9Yo&feature=related


Shady #09 ;) Why its only "6" reversed ;)


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Leo McKern of the "Prisoner"

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I'll ask this again..Remember? if your proposed photo of you isn't Leo, can you post another one of you showing the same shades or you holding up two fingers would do quite nicely.
Then I'll believe that's really you and not another hoodwink.
How about it?

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Take another picture. Show a date or with the two fingers or something that can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that's you.

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Careful, Dex, or we'll soon see a picture with a single finger showing, and I don't need to tell you which one that'll be!....... :lol:

Good picture of you btw, Wyz.

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I'd like to add to your list a prison monetary spending complaint in last Monday's L. A. Times, in the B section on page B-5..it reads

(snip)
The prisons are now crammed with 173,000 inmates in spaces built for 100,000.
Meanwhile, A 7.9 billion prison expansion program is poking along, with new cell beds expected to cost--$222,000 each.???
"We don't even spend $10,000 on a school child."
complains Sen. Gloria Romero (D-Los Angeles), A longtime prison reformer. (snip)

Those beds have nothing to them. Flat steel on a wall. How is this possible? I think the Attorney General should be alerted to this one. It's worst than the army paying $400 a hammer. What is this scam? A case for corrupt kickbacks?
I can't wrap my mind around people getting away with this.

Dex


Having spent much of my adult life in the industrial distribution business, I can tell you why you read about those "$400 hammers". One of my first appearances on TV (aside from the time I helped skipper the 52-foot yacht named "Majestic" down the Mississippi from Chicago to New Orleans back in '79.....no joke) was on a news-bit broadcast by the British network ITV (Independent Television) in the mid-80's, when those stories were first hitting the press. The company I worked for sold the same type of pliers that were being touted by the yellow-journalists as costing the Pentagon something like $25,000.00 apiece, when in fact we were selling them for $25 apiece to the gov't. The real story is that the slight modification that was made to a standard version of this particular plier, basically a 'hole' in the pincers, had cost the initial company a huge sum to develop. Now it could be argued that it's also outrageous to spend that kind of money simply to end up with a specialized hole in a pair of pliers, but sometimes it's the god-honest truth. In order to recoup their cost of development, the first company pro-rated the cost and spread it out over the initial quantity the gov't. bought. The problem arose when they CONTINUED to try to do that, even after the initial buy was made.

Nowadays you have a different situation. Many of the "Beltway Bandits" (usually consulting firms staffed by ex-military and civilians that worked for the gov't.) are part of the network known popularly as the "Dow Plunge Protection Team" and have to purchase what otherwise might be worthless (or at least unsaleable) bonds, in order to keep the illusion of Wall St. prosperity going. In return, they can make some of that back up by 'padding' their gov't. invoices. This works particularly well when there is a "sole source" requirement that allows that company to continue practicing this kind of fraud with impunity.

I've had a few other instances of similar situations develop over the course of my professional career. For example; the DC Housing Authority, which was responsible for building and maintaining low-income housing in the nation's capitol, was in the market for a huge quantity of drywall to rebuild some of the more dilapidated housing complexes. They had been in the habit of buying the drywall from Home Dumpster (er, Home Depot). Salesmen from Home Depot were always clamoring for that business and crowding the reception rooms for the purchasing agents for the City. However, I worked with an inside salesman at a Home Depot located safely outside the city, in the suburbs, and got the lowest price based on quantity and locked in the price, which was honored so long as there was a minimum amount (50 sheets of drywall) per delivery. Because the "regular" Home Depot salesmen were used to taking advantage of the gov't. purchasers, they quoted what they always did. Meanwhile, I got my inside salesman to honor a special price so long as my orders were for minimum delivery quantities, and to boot I included frieght so that my company never had to even touch the material. I then quoted the City the lowest price, so long as they ordered in standard quantities of 50 sheets, DELIVERED.

I got the contract. Boy, you can just imagine the rage that burned all the way up the Home Depot corporate ladder at an outsider (me) having beat their own salesmen WITH THEIR OWN PRODUCT! AND ON TOP OF THAT, HAVING TO DELIVER IT, TOO! So, there you have it; I saved the taxpayer money, made a nice profit for myself and my company, and didn't even have to transport, store or deliver a single thing! Except for the invoice, of course; I had to arrange for one of my drivers to meet the Home Depot driver at each housing complex and get the signature of the receiving officer. Nice work if you can arrange it, and I didn't exploit anyone other than the stupidity of "business as usual". You can believe that Home Depot never again tried to take advantage of gov't. contracts after that, at least so long as I was in the business.

So, when you see a figure "per bed" you might consider that the figure takes the total amount of construction and/or remodeling costs and pro-rates that figure "per bed", because ultimately that's the unit of measurement. The system is "housing" x-number, so to provide a "bed" for each inmate in that facility it will cost x-number of dollars total, divided by the "beds" that represent the "housing". (Naturally, there is probably an ample amount of corruption involved, but one has to be very careful as to how data is discussed.)

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Careful, Dex, or we'll soon see a picture with a single finger showing, and I don't need to tell you which one that'll be!....... :lol:


That'll do....

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(Note: These are dissertations' given by Asket (from the Dal universe) to one Billy Meiers of Switzerland...Dex)
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ASKET'S EXPLANATION on February 3, 1953

As Meier listened, Asket explained that, in order to perform their mission, they had to neutralize the space and time structure of our universe for harmonic passage without hurting their ships and the universe. Asket's home world was in a similar system called Akon in an entirely different universe known as the DAL universe. It is one among others that enclose this universe. Many lay in other time planes and different spaces. The DAL universe is a parallel universe to this one and in the same time plane.

The reason for Asket to come into our universe is in a spirit of research, for the human race because of earlier centuries. Due to their technology, a universal barrier was opened and they explored the widths of this universe 3,300 years ago, they discovered Earth in the Sun's solar system. In their research, they also discovered the original home world and history of the human race because humanity did not originate on Earth. Human beings are the descendants of a race from the Ringed Nebula. The actual descendants of earthly forefathers no longer populate the Ringed Nebula, but live on planets in the region of a cluster of stars referred to as the "Seven Sisters" or the Pleiades. Meier was told that, within twenty years, these matters would be cleared up by the descendants of humanity's forefathers themselves, when he becomes mature enough to bear the new explanations and concepts.

Until that time Meier was told that it was his obligation to gain much more knowledge and wisdom in order to fulfill his very heavy mission. He was informed that he was elected to be a truth teller, like innumerable ones in early times before him. But, in order for him to be prepared for this mission, he would have to become greater in spiritual knowledge than any other earthly human being of his time. Because of this, he was placed under the guardianship of a certain form of life which had to protect him, lead, guide, and educate him since before his birth. This also happened for all former truth-tellers that were chosen before their births. This embodies a Law of Creation that cannot be disobeyed. It is false to believe that truth-tellers are called for their missions in certain years of their lives because their way is already destined at their birth and will develop itself accordingly. Such a life is extraordinarily difficult and hard because there is so much to be learned. Prophets are never able to have easy and smooth lives.

True truth-tellers and prophets only offer words of liberty and knowledge, of love and wisdom in absolute logic. Wrong truth-tellers and prophets only bring heresies and illogic which must be continuously developed over time while actual truth-tellers and prophets offer lessons of truth, being eternally the same and never altered. Meier was told that within twenty years, he would write a great lesson of truth, being transmitted to him from a very high spiritual entity. It will come from the same level as where also the carpenter's son Emmanuel, whom is erroneously known as Jesus Christ, received his knowledge. It will become the final lesson of the New Time; a lesson of truth, knowledge, the clearing up of love, and a lesson of the Age of Aquarius. It will be a lesson of absolute truth about many other things and for all coming times. If new forms of life come and want to change it, then they are only of deceptive character and evil lies.

Asket explained that it is the obligation of each higher developed form of life to assist under-developed forms with help in responsible measure to influence its evolution. This obligation is for all forms of life in all universes because it is in creational law. So, when they come from another universe, this duty requires them at a certain time to officially make contact. After many years have passed, Asket said that she would contact Meier again when she has returned to her universe. They have recognized many matters in our universe in need of change and especially on Earth, which are very dangerous. Mankind has entered an age of knowledge and development that is badly disturbed, especially by religions that influence enslavement, humiliation, and exploitation of humanity.

The limitless greed for power is evident in all earthly religions and represents the most dangerous threat for the eventual goal of a world government. All earthly governments are subjected to religious influences that endeavor to unite them under a single world government. These wicked efforts have always resulted in wars and the death of numerous human lives. Mankind has developed deadly weapons of destruction and will soon venture out into space in manned rocket ships. Earth humans will walk on the moon and speak words of peace and love. But they are only words of deception for the unconquerable greediness for a world government. Humanity has evolved to a high level, but only technologically and in pure materialistic regards. Spiritual evolution has been wickedly prejudiced and forced aside in favor of the worldly and material concerns. That has resulted in many kinds of degeneration and fanaticism. The most evil factors of earthly religions are in the cursing and denial of all reality and truth.

Nowhere else do such religions of delusion exist in the universe as they rage on Earth. They become a danger as they slowly and deadly begin to spread. Not only have earthly human beings pushed their world and the whole solar system dangerously close to destruction, but also space traveling races have excited three of their home worlds with earthly religious delusions, requiring them to be brought under control again by outside forces. Expeditions were sent to Earth to explore the facts concerning religion. All of their nations were educated in the earthly Christian religion and after thousands of years of living in peace and harmony with all forms of life and themselves, their world changed into the very picture of life on Earth. Soon, they murdered each other until they degenerated into an evil worldwide war.

Eventually, transgressions against the other two worlds ensued and caused one of them to be destroyed. At last, other space-traveling races interfered and ended the deadly dissension which was already being carried into the universe. All religious material was destroyed. Christianity was strictly forbidden, and the old form of living came back again. All visits to earth were prohibited and a regulation was established that, if anything should go wrong with a ship on the Earth, the whole crew had to eliminate itself along with the ship. A great spaceship had malfunctioned over Russia and was unable to leave the Earth's atmosphere. As a consequence, the ship and 4,300 extraterrestrial beings turned to dust in an explosion and damaged the landscape, causing an extensive crater. (Tungusta?)
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We continue with Asket's teaching to Billy Meiers. (FEB. 1953)

Many other dangerous events have also occurred. Humanity is now able to destroy this world with atomic explosions and cause very dangerous consequences for the whole solar system. Thousands of years ago, a similar catastrophe occurred when another inhabited planet in this solar system became destroyed by the unreasonableness of the humans living there. The planet blew up into thousands of pieces that have come to be known as the asteroid belt. The name of the planet was Malon and the explosion forced Mars into a closer orbit to the Sun. A further such event must be prevented and it is the duty of higher forms of life to prevent it. An atomic destruction of the earth could damage the whole solar system and expel very dangerous missiles out into space. This could result in the destruction of other solar systems and could lead to a cosmic catastrophe. Even adjoining universes could be damaged because this solar system has giant planets with extremely large gravitational fields. With the destruction of earth, the whole time and space structure could become distorted and whole universes could fall into deadly destruction.

Asket said that it was their main obligation to prevent this possible occurrence and, together with many other forms of life from other worlds in the universe, to control the earth by interfering in politics and religion by coercing leading personalities unconsciously toward lowering their intrigues and political agendas. So, it is unfortunately unavoidable that several leading forces of different states on the earth will be destroyed by smaller organizations, deposed or even murdered. This succession of leaders will be very long, that will die by assassination. But, they cannot change that. It is not their guilt that this will come to pass because it is the earth human beings themselves who are to blame. They do not want anyone to die, but they want peace for all in the universe. Unfortunately, they only have until the autumn of 1974 to prevent the destruction of Earth and this time is very short. Should their mission fail, then this could result in a universal catastrophe. However, they have very good expectations for success of their mission. (This was written in Feb. of 1953)

Once they have completed their mission, then a short time later Meier's mission will become due, for which there is still more to prepare for. As a truth teller and prophet, Meier will bring to mankind eternal and absolute truth. Asket informed Meier that it was his mission to clear up the real truth for mankind and to offer a way of peace, love, knowledge, and wisdom in truth. His time would be short because of further dangerous affairs that are coming to pass from power hungry powers. In addition to America, Russia and China who seek to enslave the world, Jewish Zionists, with the help of the Christian religions, will sharpen their bloody swords to control the Earth. Already, they prepare for a first decisive strike to enlarge their country and generate dangerous land-commanding emplacement.

However, Asket tells Meier that the time is not right for these matters to appear openly and that he is ordered to keep silent about it until she gives him permission to speak. The course of evolution must take its normal steps and should not become hampered by a too early release of this knowledge. Earth humans will succumb to their thirst for power and their own deadly intrigues will be changed for good purposes.

Asket said that the series of events will be very long and that she could only tell about a few dates that will become very important to world affairs. She also explained that Meier would have to keep absolutely silent about these events until she gave him permission to disclose them because the future events must occur as destined in order to prevent a catastrophe that could destroy the whole universe. She cautioned him that his life will be in danger when he reveals these secret events. Meiers was instructed to write down these predictions and keep them hidden until when he is permitted to reveal them.

This took place in February 1953. It was true that many have tried to exterminate Billy. He has been shot at 22 times and each time something saved him. I am not sure of the count, it could be more by now.


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The below was excerpted from Mysterious America edited by Brent Raynes, Waynesboro, TN.

Medicine Grizzlybear Lake

Native Healer, Indian Doctor, and UFO Contactee


Bobby Lake-Thom, a traditional Native American healer, known by many as Medicine Grizzlybear Lake, has authored such books as Native Healer (1971), Spirits of the Earth (1998), and Call of the Great Spirit (2001). Half Karuk, and part Seneca and Cherokee, Bobby Lake has apprenticed under a dozen well-known medicine men and women, including Rolling Thunder, Beeman Logan, Mad Bear Anderson, and Calvin Rube, just to name a few. For over twenty years, he has been a professor of Native American Studies at Humboldt State University (CA), Gonzaga University (WA), and Eastern Montana College.


Bobby Lake-Thom had a pretty extraordinary UFO encounter with a déjà vu twist to it. He recalled: “During the late part of winter 1974, I began to have a series of unusual dreams about silver-colored eagles. From out of the void and darkness of the dream state suddenly emerged four eagles. Each eagle came in from a different cardinal point at approximately the same time and correspondingly formed a circular flying pattern. After flying in a circle for a considerable amount of time, they then departed and eventually flew out of sight. I had the same dream on three separate occasions, but on the fourth occasion the content of the dream changed. There was a dark void, then suddenly a strong humming noise, then the appearance of each eagle as it emerged from the east, the south, the north, and the west. They all flew in a circle but began to change form. In the place of the eagles appeared four silver-colored discs. The four silver discs then merged into one very large silver-colored flying saucer. All of the dreams were accompanied by a tremendous humming sound, and although I was asleep in each situation, I would feel my entire body vibrate to the point that it became unbearable. I would awake from the dreams shaking, exhausted, bewildered, and dizzy.”


Bobby Lake-Thom was disturbed by this last dream and began seeking the opinions of others. In February 1975, a Seneca medicine man—who was one of Bobby's earlier teachers— offered an opinion about the dream experience. “The first time I had that dream Beeman Logan came out to visit me and some other Native people on the West Coast to do doctoring ceremonies and stuff,” Bobby Lake-Thom recalled in a recent phone conversation with this columnist. “He stayed with me and I was talking to him about the profound dreams that I was having with the eagles changing into flying saucers and I asked him what he thought about it. He said, ‘That’s what’s going to happen to you.’ He said, ‘You’re connected. Those are our ancestors.’ I didn't mean to embarrass Beeman but I could not help but to laugh in his face! Being a professor and dealing with UFOs ... yeah, right. I didn’t really believe in it. ? he said, ‘Well, you asked my opinion. That’s what I’m telling you. That’s going to come true. You’re going to be contacted by them and probably share a lot of knowledge and information with you,’ which they did. At that point he also told me that the Iroquois Six Nations believed that we were brought here from outer space by four ships. We didn’t evolve from monkeys. ?We were brought here in a golden eagle ship, the hummingbird ship, the turtle ship, and the circular ship.”

In March 1975, Beeman Logan’s prediction came true. Bobby was living at the time in Trinidad, California. “I started having the dreams again and then I had a strong, compelling feeling to get up out of bed,” Bobby told me. “I heard this loud humming noise that was just driving me crazy so I went out into the front room. There was a big picture window. ? I was on the second level and it was right there, just about level with the big picture window. I said, ‘Oh, my God’ .. It was a big silver colored disc with some lights going around on it, and the next thing I know it zapped me. A big ray of light hit me and I just went right through the window, without breaking the window or anything, right up into the ship.”


I began asking Bobby what he had seen on board the craft. He laughed and said, “For Christmas, I was going to try and get my wife one of those large plasma TV sets. 45 inch or something. It’s flat and you can hang it on the wall. I said, ‘Look at that! That’s exactly what, when I was taken up, the ancient ones, the outer space people, had me sit down in front of and look at, and I was given instructions through.”


“They said that wanted me to look at that screen and they showed me the past, the present, and the future,” Bobby explained. “They showed me who I was in some of my past lives, and primarily focused on the North American continent. There was some expansion into other areas, but mainly on the North American continent. After they gave me instructions and everything, they said, ‘Man does not govern nature. Nature governs man. The first time the world was purified by fire, the second time it was purified by water, and the third time it will be purified by earth itself, and be forewarned of the following signs and omens.’”


Then there following a long series of predictions of future world events, such as rare and unusual diseases, a worsening of natural disasters such as floods, tornadoes, and hurricanes, predictions about assassinations, the eruption of Mount St. Helens, and many other things.


“I kept asking them who they were and finally they revealed themselves to me,” Bobby Lake-Thom recalled. At first they had been four “shadowed” figures. Then, Bobby explained, “Finally they revealed themselves to me and they were four different, what appeared to me to be four medicine men from different tribes and parts of Turtle Island.”


One did most of the talking and Bobby described him for me, stating: “(He) had dark hair and he had a bear claw necklace on, but he had a silver steak right through the middle of his hair. ?He had a bear hide slung over his shoulder. I asked them, ‘Who are you?’ and they said, ‘Your four grandfathers. We’ll be in communication with you and this is how we communicate.’ I said, ‘Yeah, but who are you really? Are you spirits or what?’ They said, ‘We’re energy beings. We’re your ancestors. We can take whatever form we want. .. If we were going to communicate to a black man or to a white man or to an Asian, we could take on that human form or appearance.’”


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Normally I don’t endorse New Age Channeler’s but in this rare case I make an exception.

A few weeks ago I got private session with Desteni, an eighteen year old South African girl and cross channeler. Being skeptical of her claims I put her threw Shady’s Skeptical Examination and got a session with Jack her Spirit Guide.

Desteni scored 100% on all my questions. Not only this she literally revealed to me secrets that NO OTHER Living Humanbeing on the face of the Earth today would know about me. These were not generalities (as hoaxer channelers are fond of using) but 100% spot on specifics!

After my session I was stunned, goose bumps stunned and agast an remain so evern today. I have never in all my time investigating the Paranormal come across someone like her. I have a feeling that this Girl is not one of us. Either alien or true “Crystal Child.”


You can read more about and view her Youtube videos at:

http://desteni.co.za/


In this piece Desteni channels the Mother Earth entity aka Gaia Consciousness. Basically she warns us that Global Warming will result in The Extinction of Mankind as it increases and triples in the next decade. That the ONLY way we can escape this fate is by collective (all of mankind) ascension now or its certain death for mankind.. Either way Gaia states emphatically that she’s done with us, (no longer will she nurse and cuddle us like the Mother she’s been) its time to let our brothers and sisters (the animal kingdom) take over the planet..

This ties into the Maya 2012 thing. Holographic Universe Theory, Even UFOs, Crop Circles *which are warnings* , even ties into Uncle John‘s theory of mass manipulation of mankind my ET entites (although Desteni covers that in her forum section “Topic Demons.” .

The piece is too long to post here. So here’s the link.

In my opinion this is a MUST read for everyone. It will shock you, it’s a blunt and shocking warning to mankind. Either we get our shit together NOW! Or Mother Nature WILL clean house of us and get rid of free loafers on the Earth. She also offers a way out of our mess, but will we take it before its too late?

http://desteni.co.za/Osho/mothernature1.htm

This Mother Earth message hit hard for me, for exactly the dire feeling I've had since 1998 when I experienced full awakeful states Visions of a future earth (no more then 10-20 years out) where humanity was clinging on in isloated pockets, as all hell was breaking lose in the climate around them.

Those visions (the first and last time in my life) made what I am today a surivialist of sorts.


Desteni is NOT the typical New Age Channeler, her message is not "a Feel Good Be Happy" Message. its direct honest hard hitting truth.


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Another piece from Desteni.

She made these predictions in Nov 07... You will note that several have already come to pass.. The Sports industry is being rocked by Steroid Scandel, The Economy has nose dived across the globe and this past winter has seen the freakiest weather records from China to the US..


Desteni - Future Events

Statement of process for Heaven on Earth.

Date : 25/03/2007







1. Heaven will withdraw World Leaders, Political Leaders, Religious Leaders, Corporate Leaders and Crime Leaders in months to come. This will Rock the World and shake the foundations of consciousness – Primary cause of death – Heart attacks.

2. New Illnesses – More devastating than anything before will be used to withdraw millions from earth – primary perimeters:
• Human with no chance of a better future through coming to awareness.
• Humans abusing others deliberately.
• Humans trapped in power, greed, deceit, jealousy or trapped as conscious systems supporting enslavement of man through polarity systems.

3. Many sports will be played by deaths – Sport has become a major ego driven money consciousness and will be cleansed through deaths in public view – Sport will become dangerous to those who defined themselves according to their achievements.

4. The Animal Kingdom will change and many examples of Animal awareness transcending Human consciousness will be seen.

5. Natural disasters will increase dramatically – especially in places on earth previously seen as safe either Politically or otherwise.

6. The Economy of the world will be shattered as the money system is not supporting life and equality.

7. Scientists will have their hands in their hair trying to make sense of Nature and Cycles.

8. Children will be able to see Beings from Heaven everywhere and communicate freely – Heaven will protect children as the future of Heaven on Earth and act appropriately in all instances of abuse.

9. All people will dream dreams and see visions – this will have a profound effect on self.

10. Ego and consciousness will die and life and awareness will remain – I remain.

Copyright 2007 www.desteni-universe.co.za. This may be shared in the original form only, to prevent any tampering and only as a complete document.


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to dex or shady....

here are two options of dex's avatar that will not mess up the layout of the forum out of whack.

if you like one of them, take it and use it but use photobucket or the avatar button on the forum and don't link to the server they are on right now....

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hey! you guys beat me...

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to dex or shady....

here are who options of dex's avatar that will not mess up the layout of the forum out of whack.

if you like one of them, take it and use it but use photobucket or the avatar button on the forum and don't link to the server they are on right now....

thanks

I didn't understand that Starry.
My avatar is a avartar format from the photobucket. Whe I post pictures their generally web size that th epages accept.
Are you talking about how when the Wiz posted his pic and undesirably whacked out the page?

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actually Dex - you photo was coming across really big - like about 280 pixels or something. there was no scaling going on. I pullled it onto my system and made it smaller as I assumed that you guys did not have the means to do that. I still have the "big" version on my desktop... Your avatar was making the column where the avatars are really really wide. Wiz's image in the "post" column of the forum is no big deal.

anyway - by the time I got my smaller images up - you or someone had scaled yours down....(and personally I think its a bit too small now but that is just a matter of personal taste)


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The moderator has spoken! ;)

Image J/k starreyes


More from Shady's collection of perverse emote collection :)

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to dex or shady....

here are two options of dex's avatar that will not mess up the layout of the forum out of whack.

if you like one of them, take it and use it but use photobucket or the avatar button on the forum and don't link to the server they are on right now....

thanks


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actually Dex - you photo was coming across really big - like about 280 pixels or something. there was no scaling going on. I pullled it onto my system and made it smaller as I assumed that you guys did not have the means to do that. I still have the "big" version on my desktop... Your avatar was making the column where the avatars are really really wide. Wiz's image in the "post" column of the forum is no big deal.

anyway - by the time I got my smaller images up - you or someone had scaled yours down....(and personally I think its a bit too small now but that is just a matter of personal taste)


Uh oh...I didn't do anything.
Hmm...What's going on? Maybe, somebody practicing new software?

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Question...Are you the Wiz. Was that a photo of you?

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No Dex that big mug shot above that purely Wyzyrd of Wyzard's message board (formerly Kate's.)

My two pics are above. Sorry I'm not going to hold up pics or newspaper headline. :)

Wyzyrd, if your reading here. Guy you bare a striking (an I must say erie) resemblence between my late Father and a cross between my late Grand Father (mom's side of the tree.) It made be jump when I saw your pic! LOL


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Dex wrote:
starryeyes wrote:
actually Dex - you photo was coming across really big - like about 280 pixels or something. there was no scaling going on. I pullled it onto my system and made it smaller as I assumed that you guys did not have the means to do that. I still have the "big" version on my desktop... Your avatar was making the column where the avatars are really really wide. Wiz's image in the "post" column of the forum is no big deal.

anyway - by the time I got my smaller images up - you or someone had scaled yours down....(and personally I think its a bit too small now but that is just a matter of personal taste)


Uh oh...I didn't do anything.
Hmm...What's going on? Maybe, somebody practicing new software?

Shady
Question...Are you the Wiz. Was that a photo of you?

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,276196,00.html



ADVERTISEMENTFungi could eat dangerous radiation to survive, an unexpected finding that could one day help feed astronauts in space — at least those willing to eat a crawling fungus.

The research began with the discovery of black fungus growing on the walls of the damaged, highly radioactive Chernobyl nuclear reactor and collected by robots.

The fungus was rich with melanin, the same pigment that gives human skin its color, protecting the skin from solar and ultraviolet radiation. Melanin is found in many, if not most, fungal species.

• Click here to visit FOXNews.com's Natural Science Center.

"The fungal kingdom comprises more species than any other plant or animal kingdom," said researcher Arturo Casadevall, an immunologist at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York.

Nuclear and other high-energy reactions give off ionizing radiation — dangerous rays and particles that can damage genes and thus cause mutations, and eventually cancer.

"Just as the pigment chlorophyll converts sunlight into chemical energy that allows green plants to live and grow," so might melanin help fungi make use of ionizing radiation, said nuclear medicine specialist Ekaterina Dadachova at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine.

The scientists experimented on three species of fungi. They consistently found that ionizing radiation significantly boosted the growth of fungi that contained melanin.

"In general we think of radiation as something bad or harmful. Here we have a situation where these fungi appear to benefit, which is unexpected," Casadevall told LiveScience.

For example, the researchers exposed two kinds of fungi — one that naturally contained melanin (Wangiella dermatitidis) and another that scientists induced to make the pigment (Crytococcus neoformans) — to levels of ionizing radiation about 500 times higher than normal, the doses one might see at high altitudes where atmospheric shielding from cosmic rays is lessened.

Both species grew significantly faster, as detailed in the May 23 issue of the journal PLoS ONE.

The researchers stressed these findings do not mean fungi can eat radioactive matter and somehow cleanse it. Rather, the fungi can simply harness the energy that radioactive materials give off.

The ability of fungi to live off ionizing radiation could prove useful to people.

"Since ionizing radiation is prevalent in outer space, astronauts might be able to rely on fungi as an inexhaustible food source on long missions or for colonizing other planets," Dadachova said.

Casadevall also noted that the melanin in fungi is no different chemically from the melanin in human skin.

"It's pure speculation — but not outside the realm of possibility — that melanin could be providing energy to skin cells," he said. "While it wouldn't be enough energy to fuel a run on the beach, maybe it could help you to open an eyelid."


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Thank you to everyone! The Eagles Team ROCKED Laughlin! :)

Onto Pasadena!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_lLgFXbTtE

(The Eagles Team has MUCH MORE coming to the world.)

The Eagles Team's leaders, Dan and Marci CAN INDEPENDENTLY CONFIRM THAT THE MEETINGS AT THE U.N. HAVE TAKEN PLACE!

Many things are happening.

No further information can be released by them at this time.


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Is Disclosure on the Way--and a Vicious Outrage Along With It?

02-Mar-2008

The amount of UFO activity in the world now is unprecedented, and so are the number of calls for disclosure from professionals in the media and politics. Dr. Michael Salla has recently been claiming that there was a secret meeting at the United Nations between February 12 and 14 to discuss a change from the present general governmental policy of denial to one of more open study of UFOs.

He also claims that a French aviation expert called Gilles Lorant has confirmed that these meetings took place. You can read his article about this here.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/life_a ... public.htm

I have heard nothing from anybody else about these meetings, but that doesn't mean that they didn't happen. On the contrary, now is certainly a time when such meetings may have taken place, and there is one statement in Michael Salla's article about them that suggests to me that there might be some truth here. It is that "those claiming to have first hand experience of extraterrestrial life would be targeted as charlatans."

For a long time, I have thought that this would be an inevitable outcome of any move by the world's existing power structure to change the official approach to the UFO phenomena.

Of course, it will be a lie. But government, in our era, gains so much of its power from secrecy and the lies that must of necessity accompany it, that this shouldn't be too surprising.

I wouldn't be surprised to see studies that were focused entirely on the aerial phenomena and not at all on the human factor, because the moment you admit the fact that the visitors have penetrated right into our bedrooms and our bodies, and deposited hardware there, you are admitting that government is helpless to control the situation, and that it cannot impose itself between the individual and the visitors. Which, indeed, it cannot.

The problem they now have is that UFO sightings are so extensive that they cannot be denied, and, in some cases, governments are getting worried that the populace is no longer willing to accept denial as an answer. Even the general media is beginning to openly doubt official claims.

So the backup position would be to enlist the scientific community in a "study" of the phenomena that would divert attention from the only thing that really matters: what it means to us. And that can only be determined by admitting that close encounter is the central reality of the phenomenon.

If people like me are dismissed as charlatans, it will be a great waste. But sixty years of denial have also been a great waste, so I suppose it's to be expected.

What I think will actually happen if there is any level of disclosure at all is that the millions of people who have had close encounters will demand a better answer than that they are all charlatans. In fact, I demand a better answer now.

I have an implant in my left ear that remains the strangest thing that Dr. John Lerma, who attempted to remove it, has ever seen. It could not be removed because it was self-mobile and moved, before his eyes, to another part of my ear when he touched it with a scalpel. Not only that, the biologist who examined the fragment of it he did collect said that it had cilia on it, that would explain its ability to move.

There is nothing like that in nature and nothing like it in the human body. Period. But it is there, the doctor has testified many times, and the removal attempt is on videotape on this website.

Not only that, it was placed in my body by two people, whom I saw come into the room. They were associated with a huge light that shone down from above when they left the house. I saw and heard all of this. They immobilized me by unknown means when they put the thing in my ear. The next morning, while the ear was sore and red, there was no sign of a surgical scar. Were these people working for some official body? Were they working with aliens? Who were they? I want to know and I demand to know.

And why is it that Dr. Roger Leir and his surgical team have removed implants from others, that could not have come into their bodies by accident, and were maintained in situ through the use of an unknown technology that encapsulates them in the skin of the host so that they will not be rejected as foreign matter?

I demand that the close encounter witnesses receive respectful treatment, that their situation be acknowledged honestly, and that careful, properly constituted study of them as a social group, and as individuals, be commenced, with the objective of coming to the best understanding we are able to manage of what has been done to them, and why.

Any study that stops short of this or, more appallingly, dismisses us as charlatans, is not going to be tolerated, not by us and not by the general public. What matters in this affair is what it means to humanity and the human future, and the answer to that question starts with an understanding of the close encounter phenomenon.

I will not accept being called a charlatan. Not a bit of it. I will be heard, and I will be loud. So I have a suggestion for the people who met at the UN, if, indeed, the meeting happened: if you are going to deny us and call us charlatans, you are going to have some trouble with us, because we are not going to take it and we are not going to shut up. We have excellent physical proof, and many multiple-witness encounters that prove that we are, indeed, telling the truth about what happened to us.

Personally, I have been the butt of one too many jokes and dismissed and lied about one too many times to stand for being dismissed as a liar when the UFO phenomenon itself is being acknowledged as real.

There is only one way you are not going to get a fight from us: Honest acknowledgment and proper study. If you want us out of the picture instead, you are going to have to silence an awful lot of people. Otherwise, you can expect to have the truth chasing after you, no matter how skillful your lies, or how convincing your appeal to scientific authority.

If you acknowledge the existence of UFOs as an unknown phenomenon, the reality of the close encounter experience is going to very shortly become impossible for you to deny. Otherwise, this latest attempt to attach some credibility to your claims will also fail, and you will have gained, in the end, nothing except an increase in fear and confusion, as the public realizes that you are trying to cover up the reality of the abductions, thus making them seem even more frightening than they already are.

It doesn't need to be this way. Studies of the close encounter witnesses could be carried out in a calm and objective manner on many different levels. There could be anthropological studies of their accounts, social studies of their groupings, medical studies of their bodies.

If this was done correctly and objectively, something quite extraordinary would emerge: a reflection of the visitors' own policy toward us. It would, in effect, be the first communication from another world.

I will not stand for being called a charlatan when I have striven so hard over these long, hard years to tell the truth no matter what. And I don't think a single other witness will sit still, either.

We are small and powerless compared to a secret group of fancy panjandrums and professional liars meeting at the United Nations. But I warn you, Goliath, there is a lot of wisdom in an old book you're much too proud to acknowledge. Try 1 Samuel 17.

High horses are dangerous places to sit, precisely because of the altitude.
















UncleJohn wrote:
caspa wrote:
Thank you to everyone! The Eagles Team ROCKED Laughlin! :)

Onto Pasadena!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_lLgFXbTtE

(The Eagles Team has MUCH MORE coming to the world.)

The Eagles Team's leaders, Dan and Marci CAN INDEPENDENTLY CONFIRM THAT THE MEETINGS AT THE U.N. HAVE TAKEN PLACE!

Many things are happening.

No further information can be released by them at this time.


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Interesting post by George Knapp on Victors list. Posting for those that don't have access..

Knapps not giving up on going after Burisch ;)

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From: "George Knapp" <gknapp>
To: "Mc47" <Mc47>; "s k" <skinnykid>
Cc: <106163>;

[extensive email addresses deleted for space]

Subject: RE: Questions about the authenticity of the Groom Lake Photo?
Date: Monday, March 03, 2008 9:32 PM

The Roadrunners Internationale, an organization of former Area 51
employees, has agreed to poll its members about the Tom Mack-Pau
McGovern photo to see if anyone recognizes the buildings or the people.
The latest Roadrunner newsletter asks its members if any of them know
any of the names associated with this part of the story, including Gene
Lakes who reportedly was the security chief for the entire base for many
years. Also threw in a photo of Dan Crain/Burisch but would be very very
surprised if anyone comes forward to say he was ever anywhere near the
place.



I understand that compartmentalization was and is the norm out there at
Groom and that employees did not necessarily know what everyone else was
working on, but I've got to believe that if the photo is legit and these
names are legit, someone will remember them, or remember something. The
Roadrunners group is made up of hundreds of former CIA, AF, and
contractor employees who worked out there from the 50's thru the 80s.
They've got a great website with hundreds of declassified, recently
released documents and photos related to the early days at Groom, in
case anyone is interested in taking a look.



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From: Mc47 [mailto:Mc47@donet.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 5:19 PM
To: s k
Cc: 106163.1047@compuserve.com;
Subject: Re: Questions about the authenticity of the Groom Lake Photo?



Obviously the photo is real, and obviously it there are buildings in the
middle of the desert. George Knapp and his sources say it looks like
Mercury, but Gene says he thought it was Mercury at first, but perhaps
not. Groom Lake is a very, very big place. All the sources including
Rick Doty say the photo is of Paul McGovern and Tom Mack including Paul
McGovern himself.

Also, for those interested, the Revised 2008 Edition of "Exempt from
Disclosure" is now available.....Regards....Robert C

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/097664 ... 2?n=283155

http://www.ufoconspiracy.com/reports/efd_book.htm





s k wrote:

But is Gene a sock puppet?

Still no proof that it is authentic.



On 2/25/08, Mc47 <Mc47> wrote:

See bottom of page.....Rmc


Date: Friday, 9-30-05: Gene Loscowski wrote:

I don't know George Knapp but have heard of his show. Obviously, Mr.
Knapp does not have very good sources. I'd like to know the names of his
sources.

Tom Mack worked at the Groom Lake. I knew him then and attended his
funeral. Tom was a wonderful person. I don't know exactly his job at the
DPA but I knew he was in the Air Force.

http://www.ufoconspiracy.com/reports/arv.htm










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My paranormal space

By Sylvie Barak: Tuesday, 04 March 2008, 1:20 PM

WHEN HOLLYWOOD'S Steven Spielberg is not working on films (or boycotting China), he's developing his own social networking site, which he believes is out of this world.

Meant for users who reckon they've had paranormal and extraterrestrial experiences or who are interested in X Files style phenomenon, the spaced out social network could also possibly include video content of alleged ghost and UFO sightings.

If the film E.T hadn't already given you a clue, Spielberg has long been a fan of little green men and spirits (of the ghostly rather than the alcoholic kind, although one does wonder whether he was entirely sober when he dreamed this latest idea up).

Many of his other films, including Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977), Poltergeist (1982), Casper (1995), Men in Black (1997), The Haunting (1999), the tv mini series Taken (2002), War of the Worlds (2005) and the upcoming Interstellar (2009) also deal with paranormal, science fiction based themes.

Spielberg reckons he's had at least one paranormal experience himself. Apparently, he once fled the Excelsior hotel after being convinced his room was haunted. There are also rumours that as a small child, with strange and almost spooky parallels to certain films directed by other well known directors, Spielberg could see dead people. That colourful imagination probably being the main reason little Steven went into the movie making business and not into the world of accountancy.

TechCrunch reports that the social network may once have been a collaboration between Spielberg and Yahoo, but the partnership appears to have dissolved and now a team in Los Angeles is working on bringing Spielberg's ghostly network to life within the next few earth months.


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(Note: These are dissertations' given by Asket (from the Dal universe) to one Billy Meiers of Switzerland...Dex)


Asket...Ask ET... I'm sure that's not a coincidence. ;)

Dex,

I remember seeing this photo of Asket when I was a boy back in the 1970s, and even at that young age when I'd believe in anything, had my doubts that this was an actual photo of a extra-terrestrial. I mean, Asket's wearing make-up and has black roots in her blonde hair...however, she's got those strange blonde kinky sideburns -- for lack of a better term -- stuck to her lower jaw just below her chiselled cheekbones, and the size of her skull seems smaller than your average human being, too.

What are your views (or anyone reading here) on Asket?


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Dan took the stage with Rob Simone and spoke for two hours about diverse subjects, including his personal experiences at Area-51, S-4 and his interaction with the J-Rod housed at that facility. At the end of the 2 hours, questions were invited from the audience, and we were honored to have Dr. J.J. Hurtak speak to Dan and the assembled crowd of about 350, saying that Dan is "setting a new benchmark" in the field, and with our research.


Dan Burisch setting the benchmark? My what a endorsement. Yet who is the REAL Dr.J.J.Hurtack (Well known member of the Council of Nine) Whose real name is Don James J "J.J." Hurtak's

They should re work that endorsement statement to Dan Burisch is setting the benchmark for Hoaxer's international. Considering Hurtak's record, Dan Burisch's associated with Ron Garner.




Lets take a lookie at the real Don James J Hurtack.

From Anti CoIntelPro and Disinformation
Exposing Mass Mind Control Ideological Vectoring...
Blog:

http://anti-cointelpro.blogspot.com/200 ... urtak.html

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Wednesday, April 12, 2006
Who is JJ Hurtak?
To kick off this ambitious project, let us have a look at Don JJ Hurtak, the guy who started the whole “Keys of Enoch” deal and garnered such followers as the young Don Bernard “Drunvalo” Perona. Now a fully fledged psychic mafia Don in his own right.

Don James J "J.J." Hurtak's published bio says:

"J.J. Hurtak, Ph.D., Ph.D., M.Th. is a social scientist and futurist who studied at the University of California and the University of Minnesota."

Now, certainly he does not say that his degrees came from the University of California and the University of Minnesota... he only says he has degrees, followed by the names of two universities where he "studied." However, certainly, a reader would assume from this juxtaposition that his degrees came from those universities.

The fact is that his PhD is in social science and his other PhD in History and Oriental Studies, were obtained from the Universidad Autonoma Metropolitana, Mexico.

Regarding Hurtak's claims to have been at the Uni of California in 1973, we find the following.

The Book of Knowledge: The Keys of Enoch® (1973, 1975, 1977) makes the correlation that this Divine Name was the key behind the transcription code of chemical letters which develops the human body. In 1973 while at the University of California, Hurtak came to understand that there was a connection between the series of linguistic and genetic associations in the spelling of God’s name in the biblical Hebrew (YHVH).

http://www.keysofenoch.org/html/academy ... __dna.html

Hurtak’s bio claims:

"He worked with Dr. Thich Tien-An, Vietnamese Buddhist scholar in establishing the curriculum of studies at the Graduate School of Buddhism, Los Angeles, as well as working with the microfilming of the Tibetan canon in Nepal and India."

Apparently Dr. Thich Thien-An died in 1980. Here is a link with a brief overview of his life in which you will find no reference to Hurtak.

http://www.urbandharma.org/ibmc/ibmc2/suto.html

Ven. Dr. Thich Thien-An came to Southern California in the summer of 1966 as an exchange professor at UCLA. Soon his students discovered he was not only a renowned scholar, but a Zen Buddhist monk as well. His students convinced Dr. Thien-An toteach the practice of meditation and start a study group about the other steps on the Buddhist path, in addition to the academic viewpoint….

…Dr. Thien-An died at the age of 54 of cancer which had spread rapidly throughout his body, from his liver to his brain. In his last months, one could often find him sitting peacefully on the steps of the bell tower. It was a gift to be able to sit quietly next to him and feel the energy of his understanding. He had many plans but saw the reality of what was happening. He smiled, as he smiled often, a smile of great compassion and loving-kindness for all the world.

From http://jbe.gold.ac.uk/6/metcalf991.html , a review of a book

"The faces of buddhism in America":

Cuong Nguyen and A. W. Barber, on the other hand, peremptorily dismiss the careers of Thich Nhat Hanh and Thich Tien An (p. 131) and spend their chapter discussing Vietnamese Buddhism in the Vietnamese American community only. [...] And wherever Thich Tien An got his training, his memory has certainly not faded away in Los Angeles, where he is remembered at his flourishing Dharma center, rightly or wrongly, as the first patriarch of American Vietnamese Buddhism.

Again, nowhere is there a mention of J.J. Hurtak.

Hurtak’s bio claims: He is President of the International Academy for Future Science.

What is the Academy for Future Science?

Website: http://www.affs.org/index.html

ACADEMY FOR FUTURE SCIENCE

The Academy for Future Science is an international non-profit organisation operating in more than 12 countries since its inception in 1973. Its charter covers the areas of archaeology, anthropology, environment and remote sensing, computers and physics, as well as studies in consciousness and comparative religion. Its work has been represented at the Parliament of the World's Religions (1999),The Millennium Peace Summit ofWorld Religious Leaders (2000), and at many university conferences on the dialogue of science and religion. Its members have been responsible for the updating of the medical curriculum at universities in South Africa and the monitoring of critical environmental areas in Brazil.

Dr. James J. Hurtak, PhD, PhD is President of the Academy for Future Science. He is a social scientist and futurist with two doctorates who studied at the Universities of California and Minnesota. His main concern is the interface between science, religion and the environment. He was a presenter at the recent Parliament of World Religions (1999) in Cape Town.

The Academy For Future Science http://www.affs.org/

P.O. Box FE, Los Gatos CA 95031, USA P.O. Box 35340, Menlo Park, 0102, Pretoria, South Africa

Desiree Hurtak is listed as the admin contact (WhoIs records) for the futurescience.org domain. Turns out she's James (Jim) J. Hurtak's wife. Bio here:

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/guests/767.html

The wife of J.J. Hurtak, Desiree Hurtak is an international relations expert and author. Her recent work involves environmental studies and the film documentation of indigenous cultures to preserve their cultural heritage. To this end, she has also studied and written on the philosophies and literature of various ancient cultures including Egypt and Mesoamerica to understand their importance in our evolving society.

They've both been on the show twice in the past 10 months.

Photos of both are here, from the UN Summit on Sustainable Development:

http://www.un.org/events/wssd/photos/02 ... photos.htm

At another of their websites: http://www.pistissophia.org/

We find:

The Pistis Sophia is a translation and commentary of a special collection of 2,000 year old Gnostic Coptic manuscripts, derived from ancient Egyptian-Coptic Christian Codexes. In the historic period after the early Church became established as the "official religion" of the Roman Empire (325 C.E.), the Pistis Sophia literature was withdrawn. It remains an inner teaching of the Coptic and African communities.

The words Pistis Sophia are Greek for "Faith Wisdom" and represent a teaching given to the disciples of Christ Jesus AFTER his resurrection. Significant for modern times, these are teachings revealed not only to Jesus' male disciples, but also to his female disciples including Mary Magdalene, Martha, and Salome! […]

At the same time, the Pistis Sophia texts work richly and expoundingly in concert with the Gospel Teachings of Jesus Christ, the work of the Prophets and the Saints, both the Old and the New Testaments as well as many Intertestamental works and The Book of Knowledge: The Keys of Enoch® .

At the bottom of this page, we see an address (2003) for the Academy of Future Science: PO Box 395, Ava, Mo 65608

Articles from the AFFS,

The Quest to Terraform Mars by D. M. Hurtak, M.S.Sc. http://www.affs.org/html/the_quest_to_t ... _mars.html

Crisis of the Amazon by J.J. Hurtak, Ph.D., Ph.D. http://www.affs.org/assets/images/autog ... on_Ns1.gif

An article on Biogmagnetism by H. Coetzee, Ph.D. [Originally published in Future History, Volume 8] http://www.affs.org/html/biomagnetism.html

We search for info on H. Coetzee, and find a mish mash of various other people with the name, either in Washington state, or in South Africa.

When we check on the referenced journal, Future History, we find it here: http://www.keysofenoch.org/html/journal.html

The Academy for Future Science, i.e. Hurtak, publishes this journal!

Then, there is this.

Laser Remote Sensing by Dr. Edgardo Gerck Lasertech S.A. Campinas, SP, Brasil Dr. James J. Hurtak Lasertech-USA Los Gatos, California USA

Originally published in International Archives of Photogrammetry and Remote Sensing, Vol. XXIX, 1992, ISPRS, Washington, D.C.

Which leads us to: http://www.isprs.org/isprs.html.......You can see the “officials” of this organization here

Where you also discover: “The headquarter of the Society for the period 2004-2008 is the office of the Secretary General.

“ Said “Secretary General is: ORHAN ALTAN Istanbul Technical University Faculty of Civil Engineering Department of Geodesy and Photogrammetry 34469 Ayazaga-Istanbul TURKEY

Here you can find out about their members

For example, the entry for the United States is: United States American Society for Photogrammetry and Remote Sensing 5410 Grosvenor Lane, Suite 210 Bethesda, Maryland 20814-2160, USA Tel: +1-301-493 0290 Fax: +1-301-493 0208 E-mail: asprs@asprs.org

Number of Individual Members: 6,000

If you have a look at their website, you will read this:

What is ASPRS? Founded in 1934, the American Society for Photogrammetry and Remote Sensing (ASPRS) is a scientific association serving over 7,000 professional members around the world. Our mission is to advance knowledge and improve understanding of mapping sciences to promote the responsible applications of photogrammetry, remote sensing, geographic information systems (GIS), and supporting technologies. […]

"We are extremely proud of our historical roots in imaging science and technology in the form of photogrammetry and remote sensing, and we intend to maintain and build upon our emphasis in this area. However, our membership is focused on imaging not only in the sense of primary data acquisition, but also with respect to the extraction of information from image data in a decision support context," said Lillesand.

"We want to make clear that ASPRS represents a scientific and professional home for a broad array of individuals whose interests span the entire spectrum of geospatial information sciences, technologies, and applications."

In short, it is more or less a spying organization that is also a “vacuum cleaner” operation. Shades of the CIA!

Here you will find some of the “sustaining members” of ISPRS: http://www.isprs.org/members/sustaining.html

Again, as you scan the names of the corporations, you realize that this is nothing more than an organization of “psychic spies.”

Back to Hurtak: Supposely he was the second in command in the Council of Nine... See: www.tribwatch.com/aquarian.htm

A Fortean Times article reveals that Hurtak was second in command in the Council of Nine. Note how the mind-control projects of this Council mirror those of Tavistock-Stanford:

Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of the history of The Nine is its relationship to the career of Andrija Puharich. Recent research has revealed Puharich to have a distinctly sinister side. As an Army doctor in the 1950s, he was deeply involved with the CIA’s notorious MKULTRA mind control project.

He - together with the infamous Dr Sidney Gottlieb - experimented with a variety of techniques to change or induce actual thought processes...even to creating the impression of voices in the head. These techniques included the use of drugs, hypnosis and beaming radio signals directly into the subject’s brain. And, significantly, he was engaged in this work at exactly the same time that The Nine made their first appearance at the Round Table Foundation. The Foundation itself is now known to have been largely funded by the Pentagon as a front for its medical and parapsychological research. Puharich was still working for the CIA in the early 1970s, when he brought Uri Geller out of Israel."

Hurtak’s bio claims: He has been Director of LASERTECH in Brazil, which developed lasers for industrial and environmental studies in the Amazon.

Here is lasertech’s website: http://www.lasertech.com/s_amer.html

No mention of Hurtak there anywhere. But, we have a researcher in Brazil checking on this and may have more details later.

From Hurtak’s bio:

"With broad scientific interests in ecology, remote sensing, technology, and alternative energy, as well as belief systems of indigenous cultures, Dr. Hurtak has published eight books and more than 100 articles in eight languages."

It’s rather difficult to find these articles: A list of published issues of antigravity news, but the links of Hurtak's publications doesn't work: http://www.padrak.com/agn/AGPAPER99.html

Bailey, P., Grotz, T., and Hurtak, J., "Survey And Critical Review Of Recent Innovative Energy Conversion Technologies," October 1997. [http://www.padrak.com/ine/BGH97_1.html]

Bailey, P., Grotz, T., and Hurtak, J., "Review And Status of Reported Innovative Energy Conversion Technologies, Contrasted Using A Consistent R&D Ranking Scale," October 1997. [http://www.padrak.com/ine/BGH97_2.html]

A search on the electronic uni library system returns a series of FIVE publications on various journals, examples:

Authors Hurtak JJ.

Institution Academy for Future Science, Los Gatos, CA 95031, USA. jjh@affs.or

G Hurtak JJ. Acupuncture and the cycle of birth as viewed in an historic Japanese medical text. [Historical Article. Journal Article] Journal of Alternative & Complementary Medicine. 10(2):231-3, 2004 Apr. UI: 15165402

Curtis BD. Hurtak JJ. Consciousness and quantum information processing: uncovering the foundation for a medicine of light. [Review] [77 refs] [Journal Article. Review. Review, Tutorial] Journal of Alternative & Complementary Medicine. 10(1):27-39, 2004 Feb. UI: 15025876

Hurtak JJ. An overview of acupuncture medicine.[see comment][erratum appears in J Altern Complement Med. 2003 Feb;9(1):179]. [Historical Article. Journal Article] Journal of Alternative & Complementary Medicine. 8(5):535-8, 2002 Oct. UI: 12470432

Energy technologies for the 21st century: Substitutes for fossil fuel Fuel and Energy Abstracts Volume: 37, Issue: 3, May, 1996, pp. 202 Hurtak, J. J.

One suspects that the “hundreds of articles”(?) must be in his own publications. Also note that the publications listed above are considered “fringe”.

From Hurtak’s bio: He produced The Voice of Africa, a Study on African Shamanism (1987) and Merkabah: Voyage of a Star Seed (1998), a winner of four international awards with its computer-animated symbols of spiritual unity.

From http://www.souloflife.com/musvideo.html :

JJ Hurtak - MERKABAH - Voyage of a Star Seed - Prepare yourself for the Merkabah journey that carries you into the higher worlds. Amid sacred sounds and colors you experience its transport powers as a super-luminal light, traveling beyond the limitations of physical form. Become a time and space traveler as you experience the many heavens! Encountering angelic beings and whole Light forms of ultraterrestrial Light from higher dimensional realms the dimensional gateways will open to you. In this masterpiece of video animation the Merkabah transports you from our immediate planetary system into other realms of awareness, connecting past, present, and future worlds of balance and beauty.

At OneLoveOneSpirit.com: We find the following statement:

"VIDEO MERKABAH: Voyage Of A Star Seed We regret to say that we are no longer allowed to retail this video. OneLoveOneSpirit.com apologizes for any inconvenience this may have caused you ."

We were unable to find any “international awards” for this video as claimed.

We were unable to find any verification for “The Voice of Africa” in any context.

From Hurtak’s bio:

"Over the past 20 years, he has been involved with the dialog on issues concerning the environment, religion, and science. He was a presenter at the Parliament of the World’s Religions (1999) in Cape Town".

From: http://www.cpwr.org/

"The mission of the Council for a Parliament of the World's Religions is to cultivate harmony between the world's religious and spiritual communities and foster their engagement with the world and its other guiding institutions in order to achieve a peaceful, just, and sustainable world. "

The "Council for a Parliament of the World'd Religions"'s site seems to be Cesnur-like: studying the world religion's scenario and defend the principle of religious liberty.

http://www.cesnur.org/about.htm (scroll down for the english version)

Parliament's who's who:

http://www.cpwr.org/who/who.htm

Mission: The mission of the Council for a Parliament of the World's Religions is to cultivate harmony among the world's religious and spiritual communities and foster their engagement with the world and its other guiding institutions in order to achieve a peaceful, just, and sustainable world.

http://www.cpwr.org/who/staff.htm

1999 Cape Town's meeting attendees

http://www.cpwr.net/120499.htm

This looks like a benevolent and legitimate organization that Hurtak has managed to “gate crash” with no real credentials.

It’s sister organization, CESNUR, has an article on Hurtak here: http://www.cesnur.org/2004/waco_matthews.htm

Entitled: "The Master Race and the Family of Light: Conflict, Spiritual Purification and Bio-Political Agendas in JJ Hurtak's "Book of Knowledge"

Which says, in part:

Earlier in 1973, maverick linguist, alleged CIA consultant, occultist and nouveau Egyptologist, J.J. Hurtak, according to his account, had been “lifted up” in a body of light into a region of stars called Merak and Muscida by the Master Ophanim Enoch. Enoch, answering a prayerful plea from Hurtak, had come to deliver a revelatory message outlining the purpose of life on the Earth plane, and to reveal the contours of a coming confrontation between the Children of Light and the Fallen Masters of Darkness.2 Over a period of two days (Jan 2-3) Enoch “downloaded” into Hurtak a total of 64 keys or revelations and these became The Book of Knowledge: The Keys of Enoch. The Book of Knowledge details a premillennial, post-Christian account that calls on the Children of Light to be genetically recoded for the energy transformations to come that they may be the vanguard of an ascended “Christ Race,” which will complete the evolution of the original Pre-Adamic races. Key 109, a central revelation in this regard, reads as follows: The Anti-Universe is composed of Star Field Energies revealed on the Black Cube of Mecca which shows the function and destruction of three dimensional universes. 3

Hurtak’s commentary on this Key reveals that the events of October 1973 galvanized him. Hurtak saw the October war as evidence that most Muslims, particularly those in power, are in league with, or in thrall to, dark extraterrestrial forces that originate in the constellations of Ursa Minor and Draco (with the principle star alpha Draconis as a focus).

Hurtak constructs an elaborate narrative linking ancient astronomy and geometry, genetic/molecular and computer theory with geo-political events, and in revisiting the old competitions between Muslim, Christian and Jew, recasts the historic dimensions of this occasional conflict in extraterrestrial, genetic terms.

In elaborating on Hurtak’s prophetic project I will first briefly describe Hurtak’s process of “prophetic regenesis,” in which revelation and prophetic commentary are said to “reveal” the contours of a cosmic conflict between two ancient extraterrestrial genetic bloodlines that is said to manifest itself in geo-political events on earth. Then, I will discuss how Hurtak’s process of revelation subsumes and elides the actual sequence of events as recorded by news agencies. Lastly, I will briefly describe how this narrative of Muslim/Christian conflict, recast in extraterrestrial and genetic terms, has impacted the writings and ideations of New Age and Ascensionist thinkers and practitioners. […]

For example, an examination of the commentary explicating Key 109 demonstrates how, according the Hurtak, the Kaaba at Mecca acts as a concentration of anti-Universe, anti-Christ energy, a kind of spiritual black hole as it were. […]

For Hurtak, this “clinging to the cube” that the Kaaba represents is, in fact, evidence of a dangerous tendency toward retrogression, rigidity, entropy and a need to tyrannically control. As Muslims circumambulate around their most sacred shrine in Mecca, they are exhibiting the “black hole function” of refusing to evolve up to the next level of organic organization. […]

The implication is that Muslims do not “allow” the light of program of God to penetrate them, therefore, they re-enact and reinscribe, in their revering of the cube at Mecca, a focus on physical destruction of the 3-D world, in the way that the black hole is postulated to trap light itself.7 […]

The Book of Knowledge constitutes Hurtak’s attempt to construct what occultist Rene Schwaller de Lubicz referred to as la Symbolique, a purported system of knowledge transmission de Lubicz considered to be primarily visual and pre-linguistic, and is secretly encoded in the shapes of various written languages, mystical buildings, such as the Great Pyramid and for Hurtak, in human DNA. […]

The Children of Darkness “cling to the cube” in Mecca in order to keep the Children of Light from discovering the symbolique of redemption hidden in the Kaaba. They are not entirely at fault, since they are operating at the behest of extraterrestrials from alpha Draconis/Ursa Minor. They can be saved by bringing them to the Torah Or (Light of the Torah)—which Hurtak prophetically retranslates as the Program of Israel with Gematria designation 8033-45. […]

Now lets look at the "Council for a Parliament of the World'd Religions" Mission again and see how it fits in with the above........... Mission: The mission of the Council for a Parliament of the World's Religions is to cultivate harmony among the world's religious and spiritual communities and foster their engagement with the world and its other guiding institutions in order to achieve a peaceful, just, and sustainable world.

It appears that the CPWR hasn't done it's homework!

Continuing with the Censur article

There is no way to determine for sure whether Hurtak’s apparent conflation of events is purposeful, the result of a faulty news source, or a common American tendency to disregard the complexities of Middle Eastern politics. Whatever the case, Hurtak declares that Enoch transported him to the location of the Kaaba, in much the same way that Jabriel was said to have transported Muhammad to the Temple Mount during his Night Journey. From his exalted standpoint, Enoch revealed to Hurtak how the cubic structure of the Kaaba acts like a black hole, sucking in and trapping the Light of the Father and feeding the Children of Darkness. 13 The stone inside the Kaaba, it is said holds and traps the accumulated and unredeemed sins of humanity inside the cube as Muslims, guided by extraterrestrial forces from alpha Draconis, are vampirically infected by the resulting energies of degeneration, vengeance and anti-evolution. […]

So, how has this premillennial scenario played to Hurtak’s New Age and Ascensionist audience? […]

Perhaps one of the most interesting responses can be found in an early ascension channeling session conducted by trance channel Barbara Marciniak in 1990.

When asked specifically about Hurtak and The Book of Knowledge, Marciniak’s guides replied that, although in the past they may have spoken highly of the Book, they also had “always maintained that [we] do not agree with what is being said there.” While the book is said to “resonate with its own form of integrity,” it is also limited by Hurtak’s belief systems, and he will eventually be surprised when he finds out what and who the conflict really involves. Her guides go on to recommend The Gods of Eden by William Bramley as a more accurate account of humanity’s extraterrestrial background.16

Some ascensionists have reported to me that something about the book “creeps them out,” and still others were quite surprised when I pointed out passages in the text that seemed to vilify Muslims or contained a ‘master race’ narrative.

Most ascensionists seem not to be very interested in pursuing Hurtak’s premillennial charges of anti-Christ Muslim behavior, even while they generally accept his overall narrative regarding the existence of an extraterrestrial conspiracy on the Earth that is designed to keep humans from evolving and the importance of DNA as the locus of personal incarnation.

On the other hand, while perusing Internet archives of ascensionist/New Age chat rooms, I ran across several conversations, all post 9/11, in which Key 109 was brought up for discussion. In one instance, a respondent simply replied by posting a verse from Surah 9 of the Koran, which, when taken out of context, seems to provide justification for Muslims to kill their enemies at any opportunity. It was as if the respondent was saying: “Yes, see, look at their scriptures, they are just like that.” […]

Robert Fuller (no relation to Buckminster), in his book Naming the Anti-Christ: The History of an American Obsession, notes that a great deal of the apocalyptic imagery that is increasingly found in much New Age/Ascensionist literature derives from fundamentalist/right wing sources/pre-millennial, ranging from Hal Lindsey to Orson Scott Card.18 […]

For all of its sophisticated patter, and it’s potential as a vision that seeks to intimately link the twin infinities of the cosmos and the human soul through the mediating mechanism of DNA, Hurtak’s revelation seems to follow this trajectory with remarkable fidelity, only now the millennial conflict is cast in mathematical, extraterrestrial, genetic and even racial terms.

Later in The Book of Knowledge, Hurtak reveals that there are two other groups who operate with the Fallen Masters, obscuring the possibility of the Christ race evolving on Earth. These individuals are the orthodox ‘believers’ in the Jewish and Christian communities, and the secular scholars and intellectuals who annoyingly insist on the importance of history, context, analysis and fact-finding.

For Hurtak, such critical analysis is idolatry constituting the Abomination of Desolation as described in the Book of Daniel.

Well, I guess the shoe fits. A close look at the Book of Knowledge reveals what one might call the circular edge of closure, when right and left wing interests are joined in the fervor of premillennial promises of perfected genetic evolution, the end of history and the conquering of ones stated enemies. It’s the same story being told now in more dangerous times.
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