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Ganesh: "...do nothings blames dosomethings for everything. was it ever any different, blob?"




That is an interesting quote indeed. Problem is with it as I see it is, the so called "do nothings" are not actually do nothings. This is apparently referring to the majority of humans and the ones waking up to some truths of what has been going on really, and then they blame to supposed "dosomethings". Well, just what have these "dosomethings" actually done for humanity, the peoples and our country and world? It is those "dosomethings" that are destroying EVERYTHING!!!! It is those "dosomethings" that have created these black ops programs, made treaties with the bad Grays, subjected the populations to horrible injustices and now it is those same "dosomethings" that are going to try to destroy us all.

Now, it has been the so called "do nothings" that have worked their rears off the most of their dam lives trying to make a living, raise their families, put food on the table and survive all of the crap and hell that those dam sorry ass "dosomethings" have caused to occure everywhere.

It is those same "do nothings" who have worked and paid in all of those tax dollars that have been being stolen from them that these idiot "dosomethings" have wasted and used against everyone. I do not know the person that made this remark, but as far as I see it, they must be part of those same dam "dosomethings" that are in league with the evil elements existing on this planet.

Now for Ted Kennedy, and sorry I cannot even refer to him as a Mr. Quite frankly I think this is poetic justice occurring now for him. Cancer is a form of being eaten up with something on the mental/emotional levels, and from what I know of him he has definitely been 'eaten up' with greed, power hungry ego problems, a sex fein and apparently a pedophile if he would say something like that to a 14 year old's father!!!

These evil elements out there may think that they can continue to keep on keeping on with their evil ways and they will cause a lot more problems and horrors upon the peoples, but they ALL, they ALL FAIL to realize that their actions also have reprecussions and what goes around always comes around as the saying goes. What they have put out will come back to haunt them all in time so they will not escape as they all think they are going to. They ALL fail to see that there is also a spiritual aspect to life and there is and they will all get their payments back for all of their evil actions upon their fellow humans and for their greeds and ego power trips, and for polluting this planet also. Planet Earth is tired of all of the evil upon it and whether it is being manipulated also or not, still these castrophes are occurring around the world, the typhoons, the hurricanes, the tornadoes, the cyclones, etc. etc., and Mother Earth is rebelling big time for all of the evils and negativity being done on this planet.

And IF the PTB think that all of their underground bunkers are going to protect and save them from it all, I think they are going to be sadly disappointed because I personally just do not think that Mother Earth is going to let them escape that easily either. No matter what manipulations they have the technologies to do or cause to happen, they still cannot totally control Nature and Mother Earth is a living planet and me thinks she will let them know it big time to and quite probably entomb them in their own bunkers that they have duped, lied to, deceived, used, and stolen monies from the masses to build. That will be utter poetic justice indeed imo.

However, I do feel sorry for them. I am sorry that they are so utterly blind in spite of all of their evilness, that they cannot see the LIGHT from the DARK, and their own darknesses will engulf them in the end. You just cannot do humanity like what these Illuminiti have done for way too long and justice not finally be meeted out somehow upon them. And I think that this Mother Earth may give them just what they have been asking for all of these years. I pray for this end anyway. It is just a shame that they had to be so evil, when they could have taken it all and used it all for so much good and helping to expand human consciounesses and helping the world to really grow and prosper, but they have let their own egos of power and greed rule them and used the peoples like they are nothing, and this is just not the way that things should have been. So they are causing their own retributions to come to themselves.

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Fascist America, in 10 easy steps

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by Naomi Wolf

Global Research, April 25, 2007
The Guardian - 2007-04-24

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From Hitler to Pinochet and beyond, history shows there are certain steps that any would-be dictator must take to destroy constitutional freedoms. And, argues Naomi Wolf, George Bush and his administration seem to be taking them all

Last autumn, there was a military coup in Thailand. The leaders of the coup took a number of steps, rather systematically, as if they had a shopping list. In a sense, they did. Within a matter of days, democracy had been closed down: the coup leaders declared martial law, sent armed soldiers into residential areas, took over radio and TV stations, issued restrictions on the press, tightened some limits on travel, and took certain activists into custody.

They were not figuring these things out as they went along. If you look at history, you can see that there is essentially a blueprint for turning an open society into a dictatorship. That blueprint has been used again and again in more and less bloody, more and less terrifying ways. But it is always effective. It is very difficult and arduous to create and sustain a democracy - but history shows that closing one down is much simpler. You simply have to be willing to take the 10 steps.

As difficult as this is to contemplate, it is clear, if you are willing to look, that each of these 10 steps has already been initiated today in the United States by the Bush administration.

Because Americans like me were born in freedom, we have a hard time even considering that it is possible for us to become as unfree - domestically - as many other nations. Because we no longer learn much about our rights or our system of government - the task of being aware of the constitution has been outsourced from citizens' ownership to being the domain of professionals such as lawyers and professors - we scarcely recognise the checks and balances that the founders put in place, even as they are being systematically dismantled. Because we don't learn much about European history, the setting up of a department of "homeland" security - remember who else was keen on the word "homeland" - didn't raise the alarm bells it might have.

It is my argument that, beneath our very noses, George Bush and his administration are using time-tested tactics to close down an open society. It is time for us to be willing to think the unthinkable - as the author and political journalist Joe Conason, has put it, that it can happen here. And that we are further along than we realise.

Conason eloquently warned of the danger of American authoritarianism. I am arguing that we need also to look at the lessons of European and other kinds of fascism to understand the potential seriousness of the events we see unfolding in the US.

[b]1. Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy


After we were hit on September 11 2001, we were in a state of national shock. Less than six weeks later, on October 26 2001, the USA Patriot Act was passed by a Congress that had little chance to debate it; many said that they scarcely had time to read it. We were told we were now on a "war footing"; we were in a "global war" against a "global caliphate" intending to "wipe out civilisation". There have been other times of crisis in which the US accepted limits on civil liberties, such as during the civil war, when Lincoln declared martial law, and the second world war, when thousands of Japanese-American citizens were interned. But this situation, as Bruce Fein of the American Freedom Agenda notes, is unprecedented: all our other wars had an endpoint, so the pendulum was able to swing back toward freedom; this war is defined as open-ended in time and without national boundaries in space - the globe itself is the battlefield. "This time," Fein says, "there will be no defined end."

Creating a terrifying threat - hydra-like, secretive, evil - is an old trick. It can, like Hitler's invocation of a communist threat to the nation's security, be based on actual events (one Wisconsin academic has faced calls for his dismissal because he noted, among other things, that the alleged communist arson, the Reichstag fire of February 1933, was swiftly followed in Nazi Germany by passage of the Enabling Act, which replaced constitutional law with an open-ended state of emergency). Or the terrifying threat can be based, like the National Socialist evocation of the "global conspiracy of world Jewry", on myth.

It is not that global Islamist terrorism is not a severe danger; of course it is. I am arguing rather that the language used to convey the nature of the threat is different in a country such as Spain - which has also suffered violent terrorist attacks - than it is in America. Spanish citizens know that they face a grave security threat; what we as American citizens believe is that we are potentially threatened with the end of civilisation as we know it. Of course, this makes us more willing to accept restrictions on our freedoms.

2. Create a gulag

Once you have got everyone scared, the next step is to create a prison system outside the rule of law (as Bush put it, he wanted the American detention centre at Guantánamo Bay to be situated in legal "outer space") - where torture takes place.

At first, the people who are sent there are seen by citizens as outsiders: troublemakers, spies, "enemies of the people" or "criminals". Initially, citizens tend to support the secret prison system; it makes them feel safer and they do not identify with the prisoners. But soon enough, civil society leaders - opposition members, labour activists, clergy and journalists - are arrested and sent there as well.

This process took place in fascist shifts or anti-democracy crackdowns ranging from Italy and Germany in the 1920s and 1930s to the Latin American coups of the 1970s and beyond. It is standard practice for closing down an open society or crushing a pro-democracy uprising.

With its jails in Iraq and Afghanistan, and, of course, Guantánamo in Cuba, where detainees are abused, and kept indefinitely without trial and without access to the due process of the law, America certainly has its gulag now. Bush and his allies in Congress recently announced they would issue no information about the secret CIA "black site" prisons throughout the world, which are used to incarcerate people who have been seized off the street.

Gulags in history tend to metastasise, becoming ever larger and more secretive, ever more deadly and formalised. We know from first-hand accounts, photographs, videos and government documents that people, innocent and guilty, have been tortured in the US-run prisons we are aware of and those we can't investigate adequately.

But Americans still assume this system and detainee abuses involve only scary brown people with whom they don't generally identify. It was brave of the conservative pundit William Safire to quote the anti-Nazi pastor Martin Niemöller, who had been seized as a political prisoner: "First they came for the Jews." Most Americans don't understand yet that the destruction of the rule of law at Guantánamo set a dangerous precedent for them, too.

By the way, the establishment of military tribunals that deny prisoners due process tends to come early on in a fascist shift. Mussolini and Stalin set up such tribunals. On April 24 1934, the Nazis, too, set up the People's Court, which also bypassed the judicial system: prisoners were held indefinitely, often in isolation, and tortured, without being charged with offences, and were subjected to show trials. Eventually, the Special Courts became a parallel system that put pressure on the regular courts to abandon the rule of law in favour of Nazi ideology when making decisions.

3. Develop a thug caste

When leaders who seek what I call a "fascist shift" want to close down an open society, they send paramilitary groups of scary young men out to terrorise citizens. The Blackshirts roamed the Italian countryside beating up communists; the Brownshirts staged violent rallies throughout Germany. This paramilitary force is especially important in a democracy: you need citizens to fear thug violence and so you need thugs who are free from prosecution.

The years following 9/11 have proved a bonanza for America's security contractors, with the Bush administration outsourcing areas of work that traditionally fell to the US military. In the process, contracts worth hundreds of millions of dollars have been issued for security work by mercenaries at home and abroad. In Iraq, some of these contract operatives have been accused of involvement in torturing prisoners, harassing journalists and firing on Iraqi civilians. Under Order 17, issued to regulate contractors in Iraq by the one-time US administrator in Baghdad, Paul Bremer, these contractors are immune from prosecution

Yes, but that is in Iraq, you could argue; however, after Hurricane Katrina, the Department of Homeland Security hired and deployed hundreds of armed private security guards in New Orleans. The investigative journalist Jeremy Scahill interviewed one unnamed guard who reported having fired on unarmed civilians in the city. It was a natural disaster that underlay that episode - but the administration's endless war on terror means ongoing scope for what are in effect privately contracted armies to take on crisis and emergency management at home in US cities.

Thugs in America? Groups of angry young Republican men, dressed in identical shirts and trousers, menaced poll workers counting the votes in Florida in 2000. If you are reading history, you can imagine that there can be a need for "public order" on the next election day. Say there are protests, or a threat, on the day of an election; history would not rule out the presence of a private security firm at a polling station "to restore public order".

4. Set up an internal surveillance system

In Mussolini's Italy, in Nazi Germany, in communist East Germany, in communist China - in every closed society - secret police spy on ordinary people and encourage neighbours to spy on neighbours. The Stasi needed to keep only a minority of East Germans under surveillance to convince a majority that they themselves were being watched.

In 2005 and 2006, when James Risen and Eric Lichtblau wrote in the New York Times about a secret state programme to wiretap citizens' phones, read their emails and follow international financial transactions, it became clear to ordinary Americans that they, too, could be under state scrutiny.

In closed societies, this surveillance is cast as being about "national security"; the true function is to keep citizens docile and inhibit their activism and dissent.

5. Harass citizens' groups

The fifth thing you do is related to step four - you infiltrate and harass citizens' groups. It can be trivial: a church in Pasadena, whose minister preached that Jesus was in favour of peace, found itself being investigated by the Internal Revenue Service, while churches that got Republicans out to vote, which is equally illegal under US tax law, have been left alone.

Other harassment is more serious: the American Civil Liberties Union reports that thousands of ordinary American anti-war, environmental and other groups have been infiltrated by agents: a secret Pentagon database includes more than four dozen peaceful anti-war meetings, rallies or marches by American citizens in its category of 1,500 "suspicious incidents". The equally secret Counterintelligence Field Activity (Cifa) agency of the Department of Defense has been gathering information about domestic organisations engaged in peaceful political activities: Cifa is supposed to track "potential terrorist threats" as it watches ordinary US citizen activists. A little-noticed new law has redefined activism such as animal rights protests as "terrorism". So the definition of "terrorist" slowly expands to include the opposition.

6. Engage in arbitrary detention and release

This scares people. It is a kind of cat-and-mouse game. Nicholas D Kristof and Sheryl WuDunn, the investigative reporters who wrote China Wakes: the Struggle for the Soul of a Rising Power, describe pro-democracy activists in China, such as Wei Jingsheng, being arrested and released many times. In a closing or closed society there is a "list" of dissidents and opposition leaders: you are targeted in this way once you are on the list, and it is hard to get off the list.

In 2004, America's Transportation Security Administration confirmed that it had a list of passengers who were targeted for security searches or worse if they tried to fly. People who have found themselves on the list? Two middle-aged women peace activists in San Francisco; liberal Senator Edward Kennedy; a member of Venezuela's government - after Venezuela's president had criticised Bush; and thousands of ordinary US citizens.

Professor Walter F Murphy is emeritus of Princeton University; he is one of the foremost constitutional scholars in the nation and author of the classic Constitutional Democracy. Murphy is also a decorated former marine, and he is not even especially politically liberal. But on March 1 this year, he was denied a boarding pass at Newark, "because I was on the Terrorist Watch list".

"Have you been in any peace marches? We ban a lot of people from flying because of that," asked the airline employee.

"I explained," said Murphy, "that I had not so marched but had, in September 2006, given a lecture at Princeton, televised and put on the web, highly critical of George Bush for his many violations of the constitution."

"That'll do it," the man said.

Anti-war marcher? Potential terrorist. Support the constitution? Potential terrorist. History shows that the categories of "enemy of the people" tend to expand ever deeper into civil life.

James Yee, a US citizen, was the Muslim chaplain at Guantánamo who was accused of mishandling classified documents. He was harassed by the US military before the charges against him were dropped. Yee has been detained and released several times. He is still of interest.

Brandon Mayfield, a US citizen and lawyer in Oregon, was mistakenly identified as a possible terrorist. His house was secretly broken into and his computer seized. Though he is innocent of the accusation against him, he is still on the list.

It is a standard practice of fascist societies that once you are on the list, you can't get off.

7. Target key individuals

Threaten civil servants, artists and academics with job loss if they don't toe the line. Mussolini went after the rectors of state universities who did not conform to the fascist line; so did Joseph Goebbels, who purged academics who were not pro-Nazi; so did Chile's Augusto Pinochet; so does the Chinese communist Politburo in punishing pro-democracy students and professors.

Academe is a tinderbox of activism, so those seeking a fascist shift punish academics and students with professional loss if they do not "coordinate", in Goebbels' term, ideologically. Since civil servants are the sector of society most vulnerable to being fired by a given regime, they are also a group that fascists typically "coordinate" early on: the Reich Law for the Re-establishment of a Professional Civil Service was passed on April 7 1933.

Bush supporters in state legislatures in several states put pressure on regents at state universities to penalise or fire academics who have been critical of the administration. As for civil servants, the Bush administration has derailed the career of one military lawyer who spoke up for fair trials for detainees, while an administration official publicly intimidated the law firms that represent detainees pro bono by threatening to call for their major corporate clients to boycott them.

Elsewhere, a CIA contract worker who said in a closed blog that "waterboarding is torture" was stripped of the security clearance she needed in order to do her job.

Most recently, the administration purged eight US attorneys for what looks like insufficient political loyalty. When Goebbels purged the civil service in April 1933, attorneys were "coordinated" too, a step that eased the way of the increasingly brutal laws to follow.

8. Control the press

Italy in the 1920s, Germany in the 30s, East Germany in the 50s, Czechoslovakia in the 60s, the Latin American dictatorships in the 70s, China in the 80s and 90s - all dictatorships and would-be dictators target newspapers and journalists. They threaten and harass them in more open societies that they are seeking to close, and they arrest them and worse in societies that have been closed already.

The Committee to Protect Journalists says arrests of US journalists are at an all-time high: Josh Wolf (no relation), a blogger in San Francisco, has been put in jail for a year for refusing to turn over video of an anti-war demonstration; Homeland Security brought a criminal complaint against reporter Greg Palast, claiming he threatened "critical infrastructure" when he and a TV producer were filming victims of Hurricane Katrina in Louisiana. Palast had written a bestseller critical of the Bush administration.

Other reporters and writers have been punished in other ways. Joseph C Wilson accused Bush, in a New York Times op-ed, of leading the country to war on the basis of a false charge that Saddam Hussein had acquired yellowcake uranium in Niger. His wife, Valerie Plame, was outed as a CIA spy - a form of retaliation that ended her career.

Prosecution and job loss are nothing, though, compared with how the US is treating journalists seeking to cover the conflict in Iraq in an unbiased way. The Committee to Protect Journalists has documented multiple accounts of the US military in Iraq firing upon or threatening to fire upon unembedded (meaning independent) reporters and camera operators from organisations ranging from al-Jazeera to the BBC. While westerners may question the accounts by al-Jazeera, they should pay attention to the accounts of reporters such as the BBC's Kate Adie. In some cases reporters have been wounded or killed, including ITN's Terry Lloyd in 2003. Both CBS and the Associated Press in Iraq had staff members seized by the US military and taken to violent prisons; the news organisations were unable to see the evidence against their staffers.

Over time in closing societies, real news is supplanted by fake news and false documents. Pinochet showed Chilean citizens falsified documents to back up his claim that terrorists had been about to attack the nation. The yellowcake charge, too, was based on forged papers.

You won't have a shutdown of news in modern America - it is not possible. But you can have, as Frank Rich and Sidney Blumenthal have pointed out, a steady stream of lies polluting the news well. What you already have is a White House directing a stream of false information that is so relentless that it is increasingly hard to sort out truth from untruth. In a fascist system, it's not the lies that count but the muddying. When citizens can't tell real news from fake, they give up their demands for accountability bit by bit.

9. Dissent equals treason

Cast dissent as "treason" and criticism as "espionage'. Every closing society does this, just as it elaborates laws that increasingly criminalise certain kinds of speech and expand the definition of "spy" and "traitor". When Bill Keller, the publisher of the New York Times, ran the Lichtblau/Risen stories, Bush called the Times' leaking of classified information "disgraceful", while Republicans in Congress called for Keller to be charged with treason, and rightwing commentators and news outlets kept up the "treason" drumbeat. Some commentators, as Conason noted, reminded readers smugly that one penalty for violating the Espionage Act is execution.

Conason is right to note how serious a threat that attack represented. It is also important to recall that the 1938 Moscow show trial accused the editor of Izvestia, Nikolai Bukharin, of treason; Bukharin was, in fact, executed. And it is important to remind Americans that when the 1917 Espionage Act was last widely invoked, during the infamous 1919 Palmer Raids, leftist activists were arrested without warrants in sweeping roundups, kept in jail for up to five months, and "beaten, starved, suffocated, tortured and threatened with death", according to the historian Myra MacPherson. After that, dissent was muted in America for a decade.

In Stalin's Soviet Union, dissidents were "enemies of the people". National Socialists called those who supported Weimar democracy "November traitors".

And here is where the circle closes: most Americans do not realise that since September of last year - when Congress wrongly, foolishly, passed the Military Commissions Act of 2006 - the president has the power to call any US citizen an "enemy combatant". He has the power to define what "enemy combatant" means. The president can also delegate to anyone he chooses in the executive branch the right to define "enemy combatant" any way he or she wants and then seize Americans accordingly.

Even if you or I are American citizens, even if we turn out to be completely innocent of what he has accused us of doing, he has the power to have us seized as we are changing planes at Newark tomorrow, or have us taken with a knock on the door; ship you or me to a navy brig; and keep you or me in isolation, possibly for months, while awaiting trial. (Prolonged isolation, as psychiatrists know, triggers psychosis in otherwise mentally healthy prisoners. That is why Stalin's gulag had an isolation cell, like Guantánamo's, in every satellite prison. Camp 6, the newest, most brutal facility at Guantánamo, is all isolation cells.)

We US citizens will get a trial eventually - for now. But legal rights activists at the Center for Constitutional Rights say that the Bush administration is trying increasingly aggressively to find ways to get around giving even US citizens fair trials. "Enemy combatant" is a status offence - it is not even something you have to have done. "We have absolutely moved over into a preventive detention model - you look like you could do something bad, you might do something bad, so we're going to hold you," says a spokeswoman of the CCR.

Most Americans surely do not get this yet. No wonder: it is hard to believe, even though it is true. In every closing society, at a certain point there are some high-profile arrests - usually of opposition leaders, clergy and journalists. Then everything goes quiet. After those arrests, there are still newspapers, courts, TV and radio, and the facades of a civil society. There just isn't real dissent. There just isn't freedom. If you look at history, just before those arrests is where we are now.

10. Suspend the rule of law

The John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007 gave the president new powers over the national guard. This means that in a national emergency - which the president now has enhanced powers to declare - he can send Michigan's militia to enforce a state of emergency that he has declared in Oregon, over the objections of the state's governor and its citizens.

Even as Americans were focused on Britney Spears's meltdown and the question of who fathered Anna Nicole's baby, the New York Times editorialised about this shift: "A disturbing recent phenomenon in Washington is that laws that strike to the heart of American democracy have been passed in the dead of night ... Beyond actual insurrection, the president may now use military troops as a domestic police force in response to a natural disaster, a disease outbreak, terrorist attack or any 'other condition'."

Critics see this as a clear violation of the Posse Comitatus Act - which was meant to restrain the federal government from using the military for domestic law enforcement. The Democratic senator Patrick Leahy says the bill encourages a president to declare federal martial law. It also violates the very reason the founders set up our system of government as they did: having seen citizens bullied by a monarch's soldiers, the founders were terrified of exactly this kind of concentration of militias' power over American people in the hands of an oppressive executive or faction.

Of course, the United States is not vulnerable to the violent, total closing-down of the system that followed Mussolini's march on Rome or Hitler's roundup of political prisoners. Our democratic habits are too resilient, and our military and judiciary too independent, for any kind of scenario like that.

Rather, as other critics are noting, our experiment in democracy could be closed down by a process of erosion.

It is a mistake to think that early in a fascist shift you see the profile of barbed wire against the sky. In the early days, things look normal on the surface; peasants were celebrating harvest festivals in Calabria in 1922; people were shopping and going to the movies in Berlin in 1931. Early on, as WH Auden put it, the horror is always elsewhere - while someone is being tortured, children are skating, ships are sailing: "dogs go on with their doggy life ... How everything turns away/ Quite leisurely from the disaster."

As Americans turn away quite leisurely, keeping tuned to internet shopping and American Idol, the foundations of democracy are being fatally corroded. Something has changed profoundly that weakens us unprecedentedly: our democratic traditions, independent judiciary and free press do their work today in a context in which we are "at war" in a "long war" - a war without end, on a battlefield described as the globe, in a context that gives the president - without US citizens realising it yet - the power over US citizens of freedom or long solitary incarceration, on his say-so alone.

That means a hollowness has been expanding under the foundation of all these still- free-looking institutions - and this foundation can give way under certain kinds of pressure. To prevent such an outcome, we have to think about the "what ifs".

What if, in a year and a half, there is another attack - say, God forbid, a dirty bomb? The executive can declare a state of emergency. History shows that any leader, of any party, will be tempted to maintain emergency powers after the crisis has passed. With the gutting of traditional checks and balances, we are no less endangered by a President Hillary than


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Not only this Starreyes,

The Department of Justice just issued a inter department study which if you read threw the double speak legalese in essence classifies fundiementalist Christians as "domestic terrorists."

As much as I dislike fundies being a Pagan for their poltiics and extermist views at times. I read that and simply shock my head in disbelief and shear amazement.

Again they did this in Germany

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How many here realize that the ANC (African National Congress - the political party of Nelson Mandela) is still classified as a terrorist organization by the United States?

About a week ago a motion was presented in congress to finally get it off of the "terrorists" organizations list..... I don't expect any changes any time soon





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Oobleck is a fictional form of green precipitation invented by children's author Dr. Seuss in the book Bartholomew and the Oobleck. The word has since been used to describe a mixture of corn starch and water used to demonstrate the dilatant property of non-Newtonian fluids.


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Ah I found the chemcial compound that they may have used on Burisch to wipe his memory.

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http://thememoryhole.com/mil/cbr/pfizer-cw.htm

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"Research on New Chemical Incapacitating Agents. Part 1." By Chas. Pfizer and Co., Inc., under contract to the Army's Chemical Research and Development Laboratories, 30 June 1964


http://thememoryhole.com/mil/cbr/pfizer-cw.pdf

PDF 65 Pages 3.0 meg File

Back when the US had an openly acknowledged, offensive chemical-biological-radiological weapons program (as opposed to the secret, illegal one it has now), many pharmaceutical and chemical corporations developed these weapons for the military. Among them was drug giant Pfizer, whose better-known products include Viagra, Zoloft, Rogaine, and Rolaids.

In this 1964 report, the company (then called Chas. Pfizer & Co., Inc.) discusses its first year of research under its contract to create incapacitating agents, which produce tremors, dysphoria, confusion, muscle fatigue, pain, vomiting, diarrhea, difficulty breathing or swallowing, hypersensitive skin, dangerously low blood pressure, and/or - most intriguingly - retrograde amnesia. Despite the absence of the word biological from the report's title, Pfizer also discusses its work with microbes in addition to chemicals.

The report was declassified on 16 April 2001, although it doesn't appear to have made it to the general public until now. After seeing it listed in a bibliography I requested from the Defense Technical Information Center, I filed a FOIA request for it.

From pages 45-6 of the report: "Retrograde amnesia has been considered as a novel type of incapacitation that a drug may produce and was, therefore, included as a part of our research program.

Retrograde amnesia is the disruption of acquired information by a subsequent stimulus, usually traumatic. It may be produced in men by concussion, brain damage, acute cerebral anoxia, severe hypothermia and electroconvulsive shock.

The following considerations indicate that a chemical agent capable of inducing retrograde amnesia might be developed." [Approximately 17 lines of redaction follow.]


From page 56: "It is evident from the examples specified above that it is feasible to discover new incapacitating agents from microbial sources. In this regard, Chas. Pfizer & Co., Inc., is in a particularly advantageous position because of its vast background and experience in fermentation research.

The program will proceed initially along three lines. Firstly, some of the toxic compounds of microbiological origin, which are already available from the J.L. Smith Memorial for Cancer Research at Maywood, New Jersey, will be screened. Secondly, a number of substances of microbiological origin selected from the literature will be produced in our laboratories for similar evaluation. Lastly, those microbial cultures from Maywood known to produce especially toxic broths will undergo further scrutiny."
Some substances tested: thymol ethers, substituted 2-aminoimidazolines, quinazolones, dimethylhistamine, N-Nitrosopiperazine, amphetamines, pentobarbital sodium, Ditran, neostigmine, mescaline, carbochol, caffeine, nicotine, strychnine, LSD, psilocin, 5-HTP.


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Just another Day in the life of A Majestic Twelve :) LOL

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The Photos Kissinger Doesn't Want You to See

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>>> From Washington Babylon by Alexander Cockburn and Ken Silverstein, Verso Books, 1996 (from which these photos were scanned):

The photographs of Kissinger [taken by Adriana Lorete], seen pondering affairs at a trade conference in Brazil, originally appeared on the front page of Jornal do Brasil, a major Rio de Janeiro daily, on November 13, 1992.

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A few years later, Kissinger's lawyer sent Jornal do Brasil a letter saying the former secretary of state would file a lawsuit for damages if the newspaper did not immediately cease and desist from selling the photos. To its credit, Jornal do Brasil refused to bow to Kissinger's attempted assault on free speech.

One purchaser of the photos was the advertising agency Woolward & Partners, which bought the pictures of Kissinger for use in an ad for computer equipment. Woolward & Partners also received a letter from Kissinger's lawyer demanding that it make no further use of the Nobel prize winner's image.


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If you would like to read up on Classified and De-Classified Government, Military and other agency reports TONS of documents and information on the Black Projects in The United States past and a few present.

Read here:

http://thememoryhole.com/index.htm




Example: Non-Lethal and Weapons Programs

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Military Contract for Pulsed Energy Projectile (PEP) Pain Study

>>> In this contract under the Naval Research Center (a part of the Joint Non-Lethal Weapons Program), the University of Florida is studying the "Sensory Consequences of Electromagentic Pulses Emitted by Laser Induced Plasmas." In other words, how much pain can be induced by these directed energy weapons without causing physical damage?

The document has a fairly high level of redaction, including - unbelievably - almost half of its bibliography. Still, it reveals some interesting things, including a detailed look at inducing agony by directly activating the skin's receptors that encode pain without means of heat, chemicals, or physical contact.

Thanks go to Edward Hammond of the Sunshine Project for unearthing this document and letting The Memory Hole post it.

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all still and moving images by Jacob Richards and Connie Murillo

>>> On 31 August 2004, during the Republican National Convention in New York City, around 1,200 people were arrested and sent to a makeshift detention/processing center, which used to house city buses, at Pier 57. (Over 1,800 were arrested during the entire RNC.)

Images from inside the facility are rare. The photos and videos featured here come from Jacob Richards and Connie Murillo, who were arrested that day. A couple of these photos were posted to NYC Indymedia, but Richards and Murillo have kindly allowed The Memory Hole to post more photos and several videos. Regarding how the images were taken and smuggled out, they write:

It was a Sony digital camera. We were arrested around 10pm on 17th street around 5th ave, on Tuesday, August 31st. Pier 57 was a zoo. The degree of search depended on what officer you got. Some were thorough, some were not. The camera remained in my pocket through the first search before entering the large cage. Once in there, we were searched again. This time, I handed my camera and wallet to someone who had already been searched. I got it back after the second search and took what pictures and film I could. I was worried about getting the camera confiscated, so quality suffered, plus it's a little hard to take pictures with my hands still in cuffs behind my back. (Jacob's cuffs were later removed and he took some over head shots.) During various searches while in Pier 57 and central booking, several friends helped by holding the memory card, which I removed from the camera (that later got confiscated). Most of the time it just stayed in my pocket.

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#4
http://thememoryhole.com/policestate/pi ... r57_04.mpg

#5
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Note: The videos taken inside the facility (#2-5) are extremely dark.


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For a detailed account written by someone who was arrested that day, read "Notes From the RNC - The 8/31 Experience" by Emmanuel Goldstein, editor of the long-lived hacker magazine 2600.

http://www.2600.com/rnc2004/

Goldstein also took some photos inside [here].

http://www.2600.com/rnc2004/media4.html

Note: The photos shown here have been modified for clarity and posting purposes. Specifically, they have been sized down, the contrast and brightness were adjusted to compensate for murkiness, and, in the case of pier57_03.jpg, the color was changed to tone down the green cast.

If you'd like to see the photos as originally created, they are in a zip file here (4 megs).

http://thememoryhole.com/policestate/pier57/pier57.zip


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Notches on side of APC reveal horror of bloodlust

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Tuesday, May 20, 2008

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/index.html

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A former US Army tank driver asserts that two figures depicted on the side of an APC SWAT tank that was recently used to protect cops from the deadly threat of women and children during the raid of a West Texas polygamist retreat actually represents the amount of people killed by police.

Gary Roberts, a veteran Army tank driver in the 80's, relates to us the fact that the two figures etched into the side of the US M113 Armored Personnel Carrier denote "kills," as in how many people the SWAT unit has killed. The other image appears to depict a vehicle, according to Roberts.

Roberts appeared on The Alex Jones Show today to confirm the fact that Midland County police are apparently so proud of the people they have murdered, they feel the need to emblazon it on the side of their souped-up tank.

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starry, i'm not always pissed.

the 'do-nothings' can equally mean those in power who
'do-nothing' good

the do-somethings
those in power or not who strive to make positive change

my suggestion is that we will all get sorted out beyond here
according to what we have done

what do i believe about our government?

first, that there is an element in it
since pnac
that wants to seize the entire world
and is trying to engage the 'fourth reich'

second, predecessors of this element
got the third's scientists
much of their psychology/philosophy
and were looking for a fruition
for it

third these folks had their own predecessors
who walked over the american indians

fourth, those folks had predecessors who walked over the
scottish and the irish

and so on

meanwhile in other parts of the world
similar groups were enacting
similar scenaries of cruelty
also for centuries

all of whom i would call the
do nothings
as they have done nothing good for this world

my faith says they will be dealt with,
life is short,
try to be good and honest
given the parameters
of your paradym

so shoot me, if i have faith

pissed off? we all have things both major
and minor to be pissed about
but in this life
in this time at this moment
i am in the gloden years
kids grown
property paid
and working a hard job and trying to find
peace and happiness when i am not at work

i am a nobody
i cannot change those
do-nothing groups
the earth must outgrow them entoto
and it will

i am not blind to any of it


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the human race is now
as it has been for a long time
a thousand mesmers
and a million moebus (sp?) strips
blaming each other
claiming each other
is useless or corrupt
or doom is nigh
or revolution is needed
or order need brought in with whips and chains

not to mention the ten million episodes of
'its my goddam neighbor again!'
that occur just amongst the little folks trying to get along with each other

out of all this accumulated chaos
peace ekes its way along
perhaps the chalice that holds it
eternally is hidden in that
bum in the gutter
but somehow it comes along too
with love and beauty

in spite of all the
j'accuse

and there is a seed of it in everyone
no matter which side
of which gun they are on

when will it all make itself okay?
i have no idea.


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surviving the inquisition and making it safely home. job one.

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"Everybody knows that the dice are loaded. Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed. Everybody knows the war is over. Everybody knows the good guys lost. Everybody knows the fight was fixed. The poor stay poor, the rich get rich. That's how it goes, Everybody knows" - Leonard Cohen


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ubleck wrote:
"Everybody knows that the dice are loaded. Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed. Everybody knows the war is over. Everybody knows the good guys lost. Everybody knows the fight was fixed. The poor stay poor, the rich get rich. That's how it goes, Everybody knows" - Leonard Cohen


Great song, though I prefer Concrete Blonde's version.

Still, it reinforces that whole shoulder-shruggin' attitude of resignation, that it's always been like this or that so no reason to believe it'll change. It encourages a "do-nothing" approach, a sense of apathy, leading to listlessness which feeds into selfishness. "Everybody Knows" David Rockefeller and Kissinger 'arrange' elections, so why vote? "Everybody Knows" that no matter if you feed one starving child, it'll just be replaced by millions more created by a combination of Kissinger's "genocide by starvation" policy and a fundamentalist right-wing philosophy against contraception. "Everybody Knows" that there have been countless 'doomsday predictions' the world over for most of its history, so why bother paying any attention to the signs now? "Everybody Knows" if 'IT' comes, 'IT' will kill all of us in the blink of an eye, right? So no need to prepare, right?

That's the fallacy of holding two contradictory positions at one time. "Doing something", even if it makes one appear foolish or childish, is preferable to "doing nothing", even if "everybody knows" it won't make any difference in the overall scheme of things.

Last evening I was out for a ride on the scooter, and the temperature was perfect, the burst of green from Spring so beautiful, the cloudscapes magnificent, the wind not too soft and not too hard, the setting sun so rich in color, that I had to marvel at how worthwhile such a simple thing could be. The earthquakes were far away, as were the cyclones, the volcanoes, the tornadoes, the raging wildfires, and even though I know they aren't that far away from any location, this was a time to drink in the experience and treasure it. It didn't make all those catastrophes disappear, but it made the simple things in life seem all the more worthwhile and worth fighting for, worth "waking up" others to not only enjoy but prepare them so they can continue to enjoy them far into the future, even post-poleshift.

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It didn't make all those catastrophes disappear, but it made the simple things in life seem all the more worthwhile and worth fighting for, worth "waking up" others to not only enjoy but prepare them so they can continue to enjoy them far into the future, even post-poleshift.



[Sam]: I know. It’s all wrong. By rights we shouldn’t even be here. But we are. It’s like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. And sometimes you didn’t want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened?

[Sam]: But in the end, it’s only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer.

[Sam]: Those were the stories that stayed with you. That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn’t. They kept going. Because they were holding on to something.

[Frodo]: What are we holding on to, Sam?

[Sam]: That there’s some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it’s worth fighting for.


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http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseacti ... 1304668077


What most people don't know about Tolken was that he was a member of several esoterical societies and yes even a few witch covens.

As a Bard (a skill he was gifted with) Lord of Rings was a warning to us of what was coming. He worte that Middle Urth had six ages (stages).

Lord of the Rings
The Two Towers
Return of the King
ending with Frodo Journey in to "The West" (symbolically the newly discovered Americas)

Is set at the end end of Second Age of Middle Urth.


By Tolken's own writtings to friends he stated he saw the start of Sixth Age When Germany Nazism in Europe arose.
Tolken also stated in those same writtings the end of the Sixth Age would see the return of "The Eye" of Sauron as Sauron would invade the mystical West. The end of the Sixth age would see Sauron establish the beginnings of "One World Kingdom" and ensalve Middle Urth. At which point the last Good left among the peoples of Middle Urth would once again rise to do battle with Sauron in a FINAL battle to end of Middle Urth entirely.

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On March 25, T.A. 3019 [Start of the Thrid age, Frodo and Sam at Mt Doom) the Ring of Power fell into the fire of Orodruin. The Watchful Eye lost its might for ever. But no one said that the Enemy, or Evil which he personified, completely disappeared. Sauron again lost his ability to become visible. And nothing was left to suck energy from.

Undoubtedly, Sauron was the embodiment of Evil in Middle-earth. He forged the Ring of Power, invented the Dark Language, made new creatures. Also he was a cunning diplomat able to influence and negotiate with different people.

As soon as Sauron scents Evil, he will return again in order to take revenge on his offenders, set new rules and strive for absolute power.



Care to Look at the Eye?

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The Washington Tower..

Just take a look at the last decade.. The Rise of the European Union.. NAFTA.. Now the hidden North American Union.. The Forging of the Rings of Sauron. "His will to dominate all life."

The G-8, The Builderburgs, the Illuminati the 'The Black Ridders" of Saurons 'Earthly Kings seduced.' I can go on and on listing the links between Real Life and Symbolism and Code Tolken gave us in Lord of the Rings...


Tolken (a Mystic) knew what every great prophet, wizard and witch or shaman know. That the subconscious mind can be reached and spoken to. In metaphor, symbolism and code. Nostradamus knew this as well. An when you are surrounded by the enemy symbolic code speak is the way to go.

Thus the message of Lord of the Rings is clear....

WE Middle Urth will once again will have to march to the black gate and do battle with the Greatest Enemy (a Spirit) of Middle Urth. A spirit that has raised it ugly head time and time again threw ages past.

An Good Will win out in the end..


Though statire we inately know it to be true. For our subconsiousness see things and 'feels' things our eyes sometimes misses. The heart and message from it never lies.


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Cyberbird wrote:
Dondep wrote:
It didn't make all those catastrophes disappear, but it made the simple things in life seem all the more worthwhile and worth fighting for, worth "waking up" others to not only enjoy but prepare them so they can continue to enjoy them far into the future, even post-poleshift.



[Sam]: I know. It’s all wrong. By rights we shouldn’t even be here. But we are. It’s like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. And sometimes you didn’t want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened?

[Sam]: But in the end, it’s only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer.

[Sam]: Those were the stories that stayed with you. That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn’t. They kept going. Because they were holding on to something.

[Frodo]: What are we holding on to, Sam?

[Sam]: That there’s some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it’s worth fighting for.


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Yes most of the readership here knows the game is rigged the dice loaded. That is not to whom my posts are intended.

My posts are directed at those poor souls still in ‘The Matrix’ The Owls the Mongrels and others. That may be ordered to read this forum daily to keep an eye out on the opposition and report back to whom ever with their daily intell reports.

As long as they have to read.. I’ll be hammering the point at them that they are on the wrong side of history that they are the enemy of humanity.

I’m sure they have a god given conscious buried deep past the ‘indoctrination’ of the PTB. I truly believe that EVERYONE has the power of good within them. Including the likes board of Majestic Twelve itself. They KNOW they do Evil to humanity. But like the fictional Darth Vader himself either by fear or by familiarity can’t seem to let go of the Dark Side.

I know it to be case. For my ‘preaching’ to them over the years. I have by my count gotten threw the dark side walls around their hearts three times. Since the godlike Golden Thread days. I ‘ve seen three of their so called security team member literally EXPOLODE and try to attack me not with their ‘script’ but outright good old fashioned human emotion. To the point Burisch himself had to come into my Godlike Thread and fire one of them on the spot for ‘losing it.’ Then Ann Marcher (first appeared) and started to haunt my thread there.

I want them to explode.. For in their explosive tirades they are in essence only attempting to smash the mirror of their own reflection. A reflection they can not bare to see and accept as their own. They can’t bare to see what ‘They” themselves have become a servant of Evil.

In that explosive self realization they learn what every addict learns with intervention and confrontation. That “They” have a problem and that’s the first step to recovery. That’s the first step for them to return to human race.

My ultimate goal is simple really. I want these little agents of Majestic reading this forum, ordered to read my posts. An with each post they do read, little more of “Majestic Programming” is chipped away from their heart, piece by piece by piece. Until enough of it is chipped away for them to take that last courageous step and they break free FOREVER. I pray that they walk into their CO’s office and put down that letter of resignation saying “I can no longer in good conscious be apart of this [Majestic] any more. I resign.”

Because if they don’t they will be truly and FOREVER Lost not only as member of the human race but in the eyes of the divine (god) itself and their fate is eternal death.


You often accuse me of not doing anything but bitching. Well I’m doing something…



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I know return to my regularly scheduled Siege of Castle Majestic Twelve :)

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Shady Groves wrote:
Tolken (a Mystic) knew what every great prophet, wizard and witch or shaman know. That the subconscious mind can be reached and spoken to. In metaphor, symbolism and code. Nostradamus knew this as well. An when you are surrounded by the enemy symbolic code speak is the way to go.


Uncle John here: Shady, I don't want to imply that you are not a Mystic, because you surely are, but the subconscious mind is a lot deeper than most everyone knows including, IMO, yourself.

In most all religions the devil can speak to our subconscious but it is defiantly not encourage if members realize the full extent of this.

We are composite beings and we have many, many voices talking to us in the background of our minds (it's not really ours). Remember from "Mud Shadows" that the predators gave us their mind.

Symbolic speak is not the way I've chosen to go as I have as many friends as enemies surrounding me, and through out me.

I wonder if there were no sneds to keep me amused, would God have to create one?


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For those of you that want to see how John Mike McConnell (J-1, J Majestic Twelve ) lives

You can find his several addresses (he has more then one home) and Google Earth Pics here.


http://cryptome.org/spy-mike/spy-mike-homes.htm


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Oh isnt' that so special his Stepford wife (Terry) is holding the Bible as he's sworn into office. Why isn't that so cute! :roll:

Press: Mr.McConnell while your swearing on the Bible. Are you or have you ever been referred to as J-1 preciding chairmen of Majestic Twelve or Associated with Dan Burisch formally known as Dan Crain.

McConnell: I deny that statement!

Press: How is it that Governmental Employee can afford several houses?

McConnell: What houses.


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Very detailed five page report much to big here to post on how the Republicans under Bush set up the structure for the detension camps and how they are already compling list as to whose going in them.





Is the government compiling a secret list of citizens to detain under martial law?

Submitted by MichaelVail on Mon, 05/19/2008 - 12:31pm.

http://www.thought-criminal.org/article/node/1630

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According to a senior government official who served with high-level security clearances in five administrations, "There exists a database of Americans, who, often for the slightest and most trivial reason, are considered unfriendly, and who, in a time of panic, might be incarcerated. The database can identify and locate perceived 'enemies of the state' almost instantaneously." He and other sources tell Radar that the database is sometimes referred to by the code name Main Core. One knowledgeable source claims that 8 million Americans are now listed in Main Core as potentially suspect. In the event of a national emergency, these people could be subject to everything from heightened surveillance and tracking to direct questioning and possibly even detention.

Of course, federal law is somewhat vague as to what might constitute a "national emergency." Executive orders issued over the past three decades define it as a "natural disaster, military attack, [or] technological or other emergency," while Department of Defense documents include eventualities like "riots, acts of violence, insurrections, unlawful obstructions or assemblages, [and] disorder prejudicial to public law and order." According to one news report, even "national opposition to U.S. military invasion abroad" could be a trigger.


Let's imagine a harrowing scenario: coordinated bombings in several American cities culminating in a major blast—say, a suitcase nuke—in New York City. Thousands of civilians are dead. Commerce is paralyzed. A state of emergency is declared by the president. Continuity of Governance plans that were developed during the Cold War and aggressively revised since 9/11 go into effect. Surviving government officials are shuttled to protected underground complexes carved into the hills of Maryland, Virginia, and Pennsylvania. Power shifts to a "parallel government" that consists of scores of secretly preselected officials. (As far back as the 1980s, Donald Rumsfeld, then CEO of a pharmaceutical company, and Dick Cheney, then a congressman from Wyoming, were slated to step into key positions during a declared emergency.) The executive branch is the sole and absolute seat of authority, with Congress and the judiciary relegated to advisory roles at best. The country becomes, within a matter of hours, a police state.

In case of a wide-scale attack, the executive branch becomes the sole and absolute seat of authority. The country becomes, within a matter of hours, a police stateInterestingly, plans drawn up during the Reagan administration suggest this parallel government would be ruling under authority given by law to the Federal Emergency Management Agency, home of the same hapless bunch that recently proved themselves unable to distribute water to desperate hurricane victims. The agency's incompetence in tackling natural disasters is less surprising when one considers that, since its inception in the 1970s, much of its focus has been on planning for the survival of the federal government in the wake of a decapitating nuclear strike.

Under law, during a national emergency, FEMA and its parent organization, the Department of Homeland Security, would be empowered to seize private and public property, all forms of transport, and all food supplies. The agency could dispatch military commanders to run state and local governments, and it could order the arrest of citizens without a warrant, holding them without trial for as long as the acting government deems necessary. From the comfortable perspective of peaceful times, such behavior by the government may seem far-fetched. But it was not so very long ago that FDR ordered 120,000 Japanese Americans—everyone from infants to the elderly—be held in detention camps for the duration of World War II. This is widely regarded as a shameful moment in U.S. history, a lesson learned. But a long trail of federal documents indicates that the possibility of large-scale detention has never quite been abandoned by federal authorities. Around the time of the 1968 race riots, for instance, a paper drawn up at the U.S. Army War College detailed plans for rounding up millions of "militants" and "American negroes," who were to be held at "assembly centers or relocation camps." In the late 1980s, the Austin American-Statesman and other publications reported the existence of 10 detention camp sites on military facilities nationwide, where hundreds of thousands of people could be held in the event of domestic political upheaval. More such facilities were commissioned in 2006, when Kellogg Brown & Root—then a subsidiary of Halliburton—was handed a $385 million contract to establish "temporary detention and processing capabilities" for the Department of Homeland Security. The contract is short on details, stating only that the facilities would be used for "an emergency influx of immigrants, or to support the rapid development of new programs." Just what those "new programs" might be is not specified.


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For those of you that want to see how John Mike McConnell (J-1, J Majestic Twelve ) lives

You can find his several addresses (he has more then one home) and Google Earth Pics here.

http://cryptome.org/spy-mike/spy-mike-homes.htm


Mr McConnell must have a mansion for every facet of his character -- he uses one house when he's inhabiting his former Majestic [Adjourned] skin, another when he's wearing his DNI cap, another when he's just a plain old citizen and got the grandkids paying a visit, and another for storing all his mountains of $$$ , Euros and stocks and shares certificates. Mike has an avuncular exterior, but he must have molten steel running through his veins just to have survived all the machinations that had occurred in Majestic circles to continue to hang on to that MJ-1 badge, as evidenced by Don's post about Dan uttering "you don't know what John {Dadmiral} can do, what he has done!"

Talking of "Majestic adjourned," well, it's taking me a long time to grasp this, but doesn't adjourn mean to suspend until a later stated time?


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Uncle John here: Shady, I don't want to imply that you are not a Mystic, because you surely are, but the subconscious mind is a lot deeper than most everyone knows including, IMO, yourself.


Well Uncle John, I don’t consider myself a Mystic. I consider myself a simple spiritual truth seeker. A Mystic to my definition is a spiritual truth seeker that has reached the final stage of ascension. H e or she has broken the hold of the ‘physical’ the earth plane and is in the outer shell of Bliss and Peacefulness with Oneness with Divine.. He or She has accepted it the physical as the illusionary state it is and is ready to go beyond into Eternal state.

I’m far from that state still working it and only recently began detaching myself this illusionary world.

.. But soon very soon I fear that the divine will strip us from it anyway for our own development as a spices depends on us graduating this Earth plane. An many, many of those caught up in the illusion will be in a very rude awakening being booted out the fright door of the nursery and stand but naked in the winter cold of unknown… many will parish as fear of the unknown grips them. While others that have already been there know its spring and a new life.

Uncle John:
In most all religions the devil can speak to our subconscious but it is defiantly not encourage if members realize the full extent of this.

I would agree with you that the devil does exist. Although I would not classify it in the terms of Christian thought as a All powerful Anti-God to God. I would classify it (or they) as a predatory spirit or entity that moves threw our humanities collective spirit energy Much the same way a Great White moves threw the ocean or a Panther threw the forest for pray. Although in this case its prey is the energy of the human soul or spirit

We are composite beings and we have many, many voices talking to us in the background of our minds (it's not really ours). Remember from "Mud Shadows" that the predators gave us their mind.


When these beings latch onto a host they milk that host for all its worth and more tasty feast is that generated from the negative emotions the primal, the animal of all of us that the brain stem. (or primitive brain).. These emotions being, rage, hate, violence, fear etc etc.. in some cases even sex other addictions.

Evil in this sense is like a cancer virus. Its constantly looking for a passage into a cell to replicate and if it finds a soul with a week glow. It slithers in and take up residence. We can prevent that with a good does of Faith and Spiritual Belief no matter the religion or path.

Likewise, evil can also speak threw our subconscious along with God (the divine) yet if we ‘know’ its out there and exists we can often discern its voice from that of the divine. IF one has a deep set Faith or Spirituality. If not well your dead meat..

Uncle John:
Symbolic speak is not the way I've chosen to go as I have as many friends as enemies surrounding me, and through out me.

There are many paths to Enlightenment.. For you it is Sufi, for me it is Wicca, for others Christianity, for other more Islam.. Etc etc..

The Buddhist writer from the 70s Alan Watt (not to be confused with Alan Watt of conspiratorial fields) wrote:

The Divine Enlightenment is a multi faceted Diamond spinning in the eternal Omm or Tao. We mortals are lucky to see but one facet of it shining in our eyes in but one life time. An in that one facet we see Christ, or the Buddha, or Allah, or what ever we mortals call it. Yet remember we see but one facet and not the whole diamond, that only comes after many life times of knowledge.

For me in this life time.. I see but the Wiccan Mother Earth Goddess and God of Ancient Hunt.


Uncle John:
I wonder if there were no sneds to keep me amused, would God have to create one?

Yes. For you as well as I, would have been lead elsewhere.

All of us you and I and the rest of old timers and newbies here. Have been led to be here at this time at this moment.

I can not speak for others. But I know I’ve been led here to confront an evil and I know I will not be released from here until that evil is contained and not allowed to spread.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU_8hZFT ... re=related



As the mystic Joan once said..

“I’m just the messenger.”


Shady








UncleJohn wrote:
Shady Groves wrote:
Tolken (a Mystic) knew what every great prophet, wizard and witch or shaman know. That the subconscious mind can be reached and spoken to. In metaphor, symbolism and code. Nostradamus knew this as well. An when you are surrounded by the enemy symbolic code speak is the way to go.


Uncle John here: Shady, I don't want to imply that you are not a Mystic, because you surely are, but the subconscious mind is a lot deeper than most everyone knows including, IMO, yourself.

In most all religions the devil can speak to our subconscious but it is defiantly not encourage if members realize the full extent of this.

We are composite beings and we have many, many voices talking to us in the background of our minds (it's not really ours). Remember from "Mud Shadows" that the predators gave us their mind.

Symbolic speak is not the way I've chosen to go as I have as many friends as enemies surrounding me, and through out me.

I wonder if there were no sneds to keep me amused, would God have to create one?


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Post okay perhaps you can, or are
okay perhaps you guys can do something
or are
doing something

from my point of view
no biggie no fault
just call em likes i seize em

you guys ain't doing nothing
more than i am
ruminating
on what should be
on the washed up shores
of bivalathon
where there oar
only whales

yes, there are bad guys
yes you all are probably
the best of guys/gals
but i am not here to judge

if you really want disclosure
then don't shut off the
faucet
because you are so imflamed
that the other guy is so much worse than you

~~~~~~~

the peeps say the leaders are to blame
the leaders say the peeps are to blame

one feeds the other
and the fyre goes on

j'accuse

in the after life
all your accusing will be directed
inward
at that point it will make sense

you either understand it or you don't

how can dan give you what you want when you hate him?

if he is not your brother then
there is no way
anyone can give you what you want

you are waiting for someone to rat out
the elves

whilst the elves themselves
are rolling on the floor
laughing out loud

and these other poor humans who know
not much more than you do
when they exclaim they
too get drilled

this all contributes to the
~why try~

the things you accuse others of
you do yourself

me? i try
in what i write
it may be write or wrong
but i am different
and can eggspress
things
that have no ending
my faith gives me that ability
nothing more
i will not solve anything
but i will always cal a braying donkey
a braying donkey
full of fury
signifying nothing

you?
you want an ending
and rail at the nearest speaker
who tried somehow even bastardized as you callit
tearing down any ability he/she/it has
to do justice
for the things you have

you can go on calling it
i am just watching
signifying nothing

the land i come from signifies
nothing
it is not its business
to judge
i come here and read and watch you judge
and yes
i can't help but wonder
how grate are you
what have
~you~ done
and why is this your place
to criticize
when you don't even know were them other mocassins
are kept
much less walked in them

in all tact
this is solving nothing
just a whirlpool
of shoutouts
for each others'
favorite
memes

you will not get anywhere
gald-clapping each other on the back
because you have
discoverd
some aspects
of evil

go see some muslims stone a fourteen
year old girl to death for dating a jew
and then come back and tell me
how rotten we are
and what a terrible police state this is
that set up this system
where you can discourse like this

just. some thoughts.
if you can''t take the good bad and the ugly
you must be cristlike
except you reject the rest of the seed
that is here
good
bad
and
fugly

in a nutshell i keep getting this
holier than thou trip here
a major disapointment
trying to view folks
who claim to be enlightened

yes i hate kissinger
but in heaven
his pov will be considered

imagine that
that sounds so alien
yup
lets talk about alien
things
far above
petty human
squabbles
some jew
killed some palestinian
some wiccan threw a fit
and spilled coffee
on themselves
during a very important ceremony
where they were about to replace
the christ
some other
dirtbag
just essplodded
and yes we have to consider him too
and how he got to that dirtbag
nature
you abhor so readily

its not so easy to love
humanity the good bad and the ugly
without pompating judgement
like barf
tempers flair so fast
and the center
suddenly cannot hold
while a thousand voices clamor:

"we know the secret
we know how to do it
with love"

oh really, do you?


Wed May 21, 2008 7:21 pm
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Post what if?
what if the aliens
mainly were turned off
by those who fractionate
strive fo rdiscord

and call out those that have failed
while not suceeding or failing themselves
just calling out their brothers
the marred up ones
the ones that made mistakes
etc.

what if that whole process discusts them

like watching neutered dogs
try to mate
not knowing they have
rabies themselves

~~~~~~~~~~


i would propose until there is a worldwide
civil dialog
between say
all of us
hitler's ghost
and christ jew
slaughtered
and throw in all the derelicts that were kicked and beaten
all the sucessful people that laughed at the rest of us like snot fell out their nostrialas

that. the EBEs
will simply have nothing at all to do with us
and no respect whatsover
asd they already passed these bumps
and are waiting
for us to stop
dishonering each other
first

there won't be any meaningful dialog
or any kind of disclosre
until that happens

don't believe me?

well, dondep apparently says i'm memrely
asleep.

aye don't thing so.
aye have had an EBE experiance.

no, it is none of your business.
aye would not want to see it torn asunder
with the normal resounding cacaphony
of judgement.

delusional? nope.
sucessful? yup.
living the Amercian dream? yup.

sorry about your loss.


Wed May 21, 2008 7:29 pm
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Post yes i could because i do know what i'm talking about
i could go on and on and tell you things yo need to know.

but i won't because
you are like the righteous
that are on their way to golgotha
ill-equipped to face what you must face
but very noisy
about the mechanism you have developed
to sinter
the blue apples
all on your own
with no help
no shame
and no quarter
for any of the rest of us poor
wretches

its all about real honesty at that point

do you really know what you are talking about
would a genuine alien be impressed

these are the things your group karma will
kickonya

me, i'm just a dummy
but i love everyone and try
to be civil
even in the faze of this
uniscorn
of derision
poking its newly discoved forehaid lance
at every thing it sees


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