I've seen some of these pictures and that's exactly what I thought too. Not natural.

Dex

"VIDEO SHOWS PERFECT 45 MILE LONG STRAIGHT-LINE CUTS AND PERFECT
RIGHT ANGLE CUTS.
> Someone is mis-using extremely powerful, SPACE-BASED military
weapons to intentionally alter the amount of ice melting into the
oceans. Video proves a laser or highly focused microwave weapon is
being used; the cuts in the massive ice shelf are PERFECTLY straight.
The right angle cuts are PERFECT right angle cuts. These cuts, some 45
miles long, do not and CANNOT happen naturally. If this continues, the
massive amounts of fresh water ice being deliberately cut - which
later later melt into the sea - will cause a "critical desalination"
of ocean waters, leading to a massive shift in the gulf stream and
sudden, dramatic change in planetary weather similar to what was seen
in the movie "The Day After Tomorrow".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid ... 1&bbcws=1#

mama earth: "they tried to make me go to rehab baby. i said no. no. no."

so what she do then, ubby?

she few up. but she was still high.

Uncle John here: Here is another great interview.



http://www.projectcamelot.net/luca_scantamburlo.html Click here for the interview

http://www.projectcamelot.net/luca_scan ... ssage.html Click here for an important personal message from Luca Scantamburlo, containing further research data

http://www.angelismarriti.it/ Click here for Luca Scantamburlo's website

http://www.ufodigest.com/news/1106/jesuitfootage.html Click here for Luca Scantamburlo's interview with Cristoforo Barbato

http://www.ufodigest.com/news/1206/omegasecret.html Click here for Cristoforo Barbato's interview with his Jesuit contact from the Vatican

Uncle John here: Ubleck, you are so psychic. They wanted me to go to rehab on Wednesday at the VA hospital. I told them I drank alcohol to relieve the stress from something I could not talk about (mind control). I also said no.

But in consideration of my elevated liver enzymes at an all time high, I have considered not drinking every other day. I had nothing to drink on Thursday. Today is a better day.

Uncle John here: Is it just me or is the internet starting to talk to us a lot more loudly?

http://www.intentblog.com/archives/2008 ... in_an.html

Uncle John here: Dr. Bartlett is totally cool and I'm ordering his book.

From iren

Pyramids 2012 Alignments

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PvZFnDNw7E

Uncle John here: First let me say that I have designed microchips in my professional career.

IMO, this microchip implant stuff is just plain bunk. Why, because the ET's have always possessed the ability to access and control our mind.

I have very strong evidence for my opinion.

Your memory and consciousness is not located inside your head. Even David Wilcock agrees with me on this.

If your memory and consciousness is not located inside your head, what good would it do to put a microchip in your body? I'll tell you what good it does, it is great disinfo to hide the real secret.

So far, no one has been willing to discuss my arguments!

So far, no one has read the chapter "Mud Shadows" which I have been promoting for a long time.

Richard asks for help, I give it to him and he ignores it. Don Juan gave the solution to how to control the predator which lives in our mind in "Mud Shadows."

Dan Burisch was only the second person to ever relate to me, "People are not interested in solutions to their problems unless they can own the process of coming up with the solution."

That is was Richard wants to do, "own the process" and "own the stage."

What are we seeing here?

Uncle John here: That was very beautifully put Bob. Thank you. The following lines are the really important ones for understanding what I'm talking about. This control over humans by ET's goes well beyond what any microchip or implant could possibly do.



UJ: Our memory and consciousness is not located inside our brain. The mechanism which actualizes our memory and consciousness was setup and belongs to the ET's and is controlled by them. The ET's are the predators.



UJ: Don Juan and his mentors did not possess the scientific understanding of memory and consciousness mechanisms. His training was before A.I. was a science.

Come join the sorcerers' revolution. Help us awaken all of humanity to this.

Thanks again Bob.

(Note: This is Betty Andreasson's daughter. Betty became quite known as a contactee herself. The exceptional media exposure with Betty has shown us these kinds of contacts can include their children...Dex)

NPN UFO GROUP INTERVIEW WITH BECKY ANDREASSON
Piotr Cielebiaś [NPN – Polish UFO group] interviewed Becky Andreasson – one of the famous case heroines, who shares her view on UFO and ET and their influence on her life. She admitted: “Andreassons’ Affair is still ongoing”.


Becky Andreasson


PC: At first I would like to thank you that you agreed to share some of your experiences and ideas with our readers in Poland.

BA: You’re Very Welcome.

PC: Please, tell me at first how do you feel as the daughter of one of the most famous abductees? Is/was it burdensome? What was your attitude toward all the events related with your family abductions as a child and then a young person?

BA: First, Mom is Mom, and I love her. I have lived my whole life within this UFO/ET phenomena, so Mom’s, mine and other family members abductions/visits, feel normal to me. You know, when I was younger, I thought everyone knew what was happening, but to my SURPRISE, they didn't! Mom explained, and so began our Mother- Daughter bonding Secret! I would say, the only burden I held, was not being able to share what was taking place in our family with anyone outside the family for a long time! I experienced many feelings, but was always able to let them go. From childhood on, my over all attitude was happy and carefree.

PC: Have you recently experienced any new visits or similar encounters? Do you still meet those entities either being lucid or in visions and messages of various types? Is Andreassons’ Affair is still ongoing? Was the abduction a strengthening factor for your relationship?

BA: Yes, there have been new visits, lucid and in visions, with messages, which have been wonderful, it's like putting a puzzle together, some of my new information will be on my web site soon! Yes, the Andreassons’ Affair is STILL Ongoing! I'm sure it was and is a strengthening factor.



PC: One of the most important facts is the witness [the abductee] reluctance to reveal his/her experiences due to reaction of family members, friends and society. Have you ever experienced it or maybe you rather feel as someone especially honored with ET visits? What can you say to an abductee ashamed of disclosing his/her experiences and mentally suffering due to this position?

BA: I am so honored, especially to have been taught the Symbolic Language. But... I've also experienced moments of this other side too. I think quite often it's human nature for people to feel reluctant in revealing their experiences, do to fear of some kind or shame. I say to all of you, BE BRAVE! SPEAK OUT! Don't worry about what others think! It happened to YOU!!! The world is realizing and understanding that this is REAL! The more of US who step up and talk the better it will be, even for those who are not ready to tell, at least they will know their NOT ALONE!!!

PC: Surely, most of people are curious of the alien’s appearance. But what it their aim and work on Earth in your opinion? Regarding variety of cases and Aliens descriptions, it is possible at all to understand the whole phenomenon?

BA: In my opinion "They," are here watching over: the human race, our Solar System. There is an "Ancient War" that has been on going since Earth/Humans beginning, Good vs. Evil, it's MORE REAL then you could imagine! That is why there is either Good or Bad experiences of visits/abductions happening, it would depend on which side your involved with!

PC: How the Aliens you met looked like, please tell us more about all the types you have encountered [for example the one resembling a gargoyle that made you woke up]? Did you feel that we could have something in common with some of them? Anyway – Do you think that an adjective “Alien” is always proper? What does the word “Watchers” mean?

BA: Here I have listed some of the types [Aliens] I have encountered and am involved with; The Elders - human looking, tall, white hair, blue eyes, very light white skin and dressed in white garments. The Beings - human looking, a bit shorter then the Elders, light blond hair, green eyes, white skin and dressed in white garments. The two I was with looked like twins! Ishta - Human looking, tall, reddish-brown hair, brown eyes, white skin, dressed in a dark green garment and wore a mystical ring on her finger! E sa - Human looking, very tall, whitish-gray hair, olive-green skin, dressed all in white, wore a jeweled medallion necklace, and when he spoke, it was in a singing form, in the language of the symbols I was taught and I understood him! The Grays – short, around 3 to 4 1/2 feet tall, large dark almond shaped eyes, small slit mouth, indent nose and ears, large head, no hair, grayish skin. Creature - gargoyle like, dark murky brownish color, red eyes, and growling! There are others that I have encountered, that I will be revealing on my web site in the near future. Something in common, hmmm, I never really thought about that, I don't know if we do, aside from some of them looking human in appearance. No, I don't think this is always proper, only when it is done for the safety and or well being of the person or persons. Watchers to me mean two things. There are the Fallen Watchers/Evil and the Holy Watchers/Good who are both involved with Humanity here on earth.


Elder with Becky, in her crib [image credit: www.beckyandreasson.com]

PC: Could you briefly describe for us some of you early encounters and teachings that took place in that time? Had you been prepared for something? Why Aliens from your pictures look so friendly despite other abductees claims of their malicious nature? Why they don’t treat all the people in the same way? Is there any division within Aliens classification different than classification via appearance?

BA: Sure, some of my early encounters were: visits - becoming acclimated to the Elders, Ishta, Beings etc. myself being in ships with them, them in my house/in my room, in the woods, night or day, becoming comfortable with, happy to see them, having no fear, trusting them, learning from them. Being in a schooling format, like preschool at play with two other children, learning their language, the symbols! My FIRST introduction to the Grays was in the 1967 abduction of my Mother. Where in my home I was playing light games in the air with the Gray called Jessup! My preparation in all my years has been carefully nurtured, the human spirit to the higher spirit, to bring back the undivided, powerful ancient language of our beginning to humanity! Why the Aliens from my pictures look so friendly, is because they ARE Friendly. Yes, the classification, Good Aliens and Evil Aliens. I'm blessed to be involved with the GOOD!

Becky and Jessup [image credit: www.beckyandreasson.com]

PC: Do you incline towards any explanations of UFO phenomenon? What is the meaning of a term “abductee” for you? In which way we should regard ETs you met: spiritual or material [maybe both of them]? Do you think that all abduction reports are real?

BA: They have been with us from our very beginning, following Family lines/DNA through the ages, they have been called by many names and viewed in different ways, and will continue with us into the future! "Abductee", means to me: being taken against your will. In my experiences, I would prefer the term: "Visitations". The ET's of my experiences are both spiritual and physical. I would hope that ALL abduction reports are REAL! It would be very unfair and inconsiderate of anyone making up an abduction, especially toward those of us who have lived and still live in this phenomena! Doing such a thing, would also give disclaimers and skeptics fuel for their fire against the TRUTH, getting out to the WORLD!

PC: Have you ever thought about their [ET’s] life? Do you have any ideas how it looks like? What are main differences between us and them, our societies and our ordinary life? What about factors such as time, family, names, food, love, God and all the things so important for people? Have they always been with us, since the dawn of civilization?

BA: I've wondered where they were or what they were doing at times. As far as their life style, I haven't thought about that. I do know they are sonic clean and super organized! I think the main difference between them and us, is they are far advanced in knowledge and technology. These factors they know are important to all of us, and we and our Life's are immensely important to them! Yes, they have been with us since the dawn of civilization, Oh YES!

PC: Please, tell me about your interests in spirituality. Do you think that it have something in common with your experiences? What prompt you to write poems? It is your message to the people and a way to express the things you had been taught?

BA: I have known at a very, very young age that spirit is real and from my experiences both normal and extraordinary throughout my life, my spirituality has developed and grown strong! My spiritual center is JESUS CHRIST, Forever! I began writing poems at age 12, I think most poets, life experiences come out through their poetry, as in my case.

PC: It is believed that ET Abduction phenomenon has something in common with our planet changes since abductees are often interested in the future of the mankind, global politics and ecology? What is our future? Could you tell us more about Elders, their language, symbols and your life as a psychic? What about the immense knowledge of THEY and about the mysterious Blue Book?

BA: Yes, I think so, remember they are watching over us and earth. I cannot tell you our future, except it is formed by the will of humanity! And I pray humanity's will stays In GOD’s LIGHT! The Elders were there at my beginning, are with me today and will be there at my end. They are so kind and wonderful! There is an essence of love, peace and a safe feeling when you’re in their presents, they even smile quite often! They have been with me throughout my life, teaching me the ALL of this Powerful Ancient Symbolic Language. Because of such a kind spiritual embrace, it has nurtured from the beginning, my psychic abilities, which I have exercised, through out the years. The immense knowledge of THEY is becoming known to the world, and the mysterious blue book, It was there in our home and then gone!

PC: Thanking you for your answers and kind reaction, please let me ask you the last question: How much ETs have changed your life? When we find out more about Them [Aliens]?


BA: I grew up with ET's, so I know, no other way of life there is no change for me, they have always been there! I think more truth and more evidence of the ET's is coming out every year and They are letting us see them more often, alone or in mass sightings, they don't want to frighten us, there is an adjustment period that has to stay in place, they want us to know they are REALLY HERE! And not for just a select few, They want US ALL to know!

PC: Would you like to say something to our readers?

BA: Yes, I would love for you all to visit my web site. I will be adding more information soon, also see how to acquire your own personal symbolic writing! Thank you.

VISIT BECKY's SITE: http://www.beckyandreasson.com/

Hey UJ,

I read that chapter "Mud Shadows" a long time ago. You suggested it, and I read it. Very interesting.

I also agree with you about the mind not being located in the body. I think it is just a receiver (the brain) for the "signals" we pick up from the
"one" mind. I think the separation from the "one" is a test or a punishment and that when we acheive a certain level "enlightenment" perhaps we get to move on to the next higher form of consciousness.

I have always been interested solutions to problems even when I am not the owner of the process to come up with the solution. As long as I can see the process and understand it, I think the solution (for me) does not have to be owned.

Don't assume that everyone ignores you UJ. I am always lurking. I often take you up on your challenges even when you are not aware.

After all, we are all one but some of us just cannot see this yet. I am still learning everyday.

love and peace

d

Uncle John here: One can look at two ways to read something. One can scan all the words into one's brain without any consideration, which are usually forgotten a short time later, or one can read all the words, attempt to figure out what they mean, remember them and consolidate this with one's other knowledge. Guess which one I'm begging people to do?

Perhaps it would have been better said that so far, no one has discussed the chapter "Mud Shadows" with me.



UJ: Enlightenment is not a "we" thing. I don't think you understand or possibly agree what I'm talking about at all. My consciousness and memory contained in the facilitating mechanism is distinct and mostly separate from everyone's consciousness and memory. For sure, in that mechanism, my and everyone else's consciousness and memory can be read, have thoughts placed into it and controlled or changed to various levels by unseen beings and collectives.



UJ: The proof is in the pudding. So far, I've not tasted that pudding.



UJ: My challenge is for discussion and advancement in understanding and knowledge about the forces that control this world and are doing a bad job of it BTW.



UJ: If we are all one, then we would all have the same karma and I know this not to be true.

Gosh, UJ; I'm gone for a few days (to a "Ufer" symposium in Aztex, New Mexico, which I'll discuss shortly) and what do I see upon my return? Dig has taken the time to follow your suggestion and whether he takes offense or not, I would certainly feel bewildered at your brusque response were I in his shoes. Okay, so I'm not in his shoes, and this may be your way of "filling with love".

There willl probably be a number of new readers, many whom may not post or even register, thanks to Simmering Frog and my appearance at afore-mentioned "Ufer" gathering. Therefore I hope everyone will make them feel welcome if they take the time to pose questions that most of us might feel are "old hat". Although most of the attendees of the "Symposium" were of retirement age, there were a number of younger people there as well. In fact, what made the entire experience worthwhile for me were the other folks in the audience I met and not so much the professional "ufoologists" brought in to speak and sell books.

-----The professional 'you-fool-logists' that were on the panel were, in order of density of resumes, were:

Stanton Friedman
Timothy Good
Dr. Jesse Marcel, Jr.
Duane Tudahl (a producer of UFO Files on the History Channel)
Scott Ramsey (the researcher of the Aztec UFO crash of 1948)
Ken Storch (a 'law enforcement officer's approach to validating UFO crash claims and related claims)
Ted Phillips (Director of the Center for Physical Trace Research, and a research associate of the famous Dr. Allen Hynek)
Mike Fortson (researcher of the 'Phoenix lights')


After Frog and I arrived and got in line for the "meet n' greet" dinner to get to know the "ufers", Frog went up to Timothy Good and asked the question I had been wondering about, which was whether 'Hilly' had been killed or if he died of natural causes. We should have known he would've replied - as he did - that he "died of old age". Nonetheless, I took the opportunity to introduce myself to Mr. Good, saying he might have heard of me (one never knows; most of the professional "ufers" do but are afraid to admit it). Mr. Good said he did not, whereupon I informed him that I had reason to believe Lord Hill-Norton might have been murdered, or assassinated, being that I had been "in communication" with him, as he had been communicating with us on this very forum. Immediately Timothy took umbrage and said I was a "dishonest person" for claiming to have communicated with Hill-Norton! To say I was shocked and taken aback would be an understatement; I told him that he had only known me for maybe one full minute and couldn't possibly know whether I was "dishonest" or not! (I had expected a sharp reply perhaps, asking me on what grounds I had to believe I was truly hearing from Hill-Norton, which would have been the opportunity to show him the collection of correspondence that I had with me, but following his immediate and belittling attack I had no interest in treating him with any respect -- in fact I was tempted to remind him that I and my colleagues were paying his fee and deserved a bit more courtesy than that.) I then followed up with the observation that while I was a "nobody", that was in point of fact perhaps the reason WHY I had heard from these individuals; while they would never ever admit publicly to communicating to myself and this public forum, the information they provided would explain exactly WHY this was the case. Timothy made a surly noise about the "telephone" and I had to explain to the old fart that "chats" took place on Instant Messenger services, NOT the 'telephone'; communications include 'emails' as well. His derisive comment was something to the effect of "oh, the Internet!" (I bet the smug bastard checks his bank balance on "the Interent".) I saw immediately that all my fears about evil 'ufers' in the past was well-founded; these people try to put others on the defensive as soon as possible about "the Internet", as if anything learned on "the Internet" isn't valid. Bollocks, Mr. Good. I then asked if he knew about Dan Burisch; he said "Burisch is rubbish." I asked "how much of him or his story is rubbish?" He replied that Dan was "probably an intelligent man", but that was all as his voice and attention seemed to trail off. That's where the dialog ended, suspended because the MC was calling the proceedings to order to make some announcements. Later, after we had our dinner, the "ufers" were made to play musical chairs, asked to sit at the head of each of the tables to take questions from the attendees in an informal manner. When Mr. Good's turn came, and he was forced to sit next to me, we acted as if nothing had happened, but I did ask him (in a courteous manner, which is more than could be said for the smug bastard) what he thought was the reason 'WHY' "THEY" are 'visiting' us. His answer boiled down to: "they" are many different species, races, etc, and "they" all have different agendas; "they" are basically zipping about the galaxy and occasionally getting shot down by our radars, and "they" don't want us to know about themselves so they have agreements with the human authorities to keep their superior existence a 'secret' because we're apparently too primitive to accept the idea of superior extraterrestrial races.

After that, another attendee (who may be reading here as of today) then asked him what he thought of the alleged "secret UN meeting on Disclosure". Mr. Good was obviously familiar with the subject, as he immediately asked if this was the one reported by Dr. Michael Salla of Exopolitics. When she replied that it was, Timothy Bad (as I now call him) replied immediately and forcefully "didn't happen. It's rubbish." Nasty chap, that Mr. Bad. I decided that maybe I should change the subject, as nobody else at the table appeared to want to ask any questions (not surprising), so I asked him about the part in his resume where he claimed to have been a violinist who "worked with U2, Depeche Mode, Genesis, Phil Collins, Peter Gabriel, etc". He said that he was one of maybe 6 session musicians who performed on some tracks Bono had done duetting with Frank Sinatra, but didn't know any of the songs. I asked about Depeche Mode; he said he didn't know which albums, which songs, etc. Even on non-UFO-related issues, Mr. Timothy Good came off as a well-cultured ass, I'm sorry to report. I avoided him for the duration of the symposium, though we had an awkward moment when he was trying to pass on his way to his book-selling table. I addressed him with a "good morning, Mr. Good" and encouraged him to pass to my left, making room for him, but that was the extent of it. He blew an excellent opportunity, in my view.

Judging from the speed and subjective emotion of his responses not only to myself but to others, I came to the conclusion that he apparently has a 'handler', whom he considers his 'inside source' but who is really spoonfeeding these "ufers" the party line they want them to toe. Otherwise, I believe he would have been more gracious and demure in his skeptical approach....... he might have prefaced his remarks with "I have heard thus and such and do not believe....", or "I hadn't heard about any of this; if we have time later perhaps you could tell me more and I could give you my opinion", etc.

So endeth the Timothy Bad experience.

Stan Friedman, on the other hand, despite being a more overt curmudgeon, was like an old shoe...... seeing him for the 6th or 7th time at these kind of events was almost like seeing Blue Oyster Cult on their umpteenth reunion tour. He's got a new book coming out in May which he claims is going to show his unfettered opinions about the "negative naysayers" and others who disagree with him. His presentation had nothing really new at all, but for first-timers who are still progressing through kindergarten it was engaging enough. Afterwards he signed books and I even got him to sign a copy of his "Final Report on Majestic 12" with "Best Wishes to DonDep, Stanton Friedman". I asked him if he still considered Burisch to be in his "gray basket" (meaning not sure if he's credible or not) and he said "no". I asked him then if that meant that he was now "credible" (I was tempted to ask "now that Burisch has cleaned up his act and is dutifully toeing the party line, is he okay in your book", but bit my tongue). He said that Dan "has a vivid imagination", and that he knew his mother. I told him that we (meaning UncleJohn, of course, but implying the efforts of the Golden Thread) had determined that Dan didn't have the "twin sister" he thought he had, but that it was his cousin, born about 48 days after he was, and she was still alive.....contrary to his belief. He then made a comment about how Dan has probably been heavily manipulated, and in general was dismissive (though polite towards me) of Dan B.

The time I spent with the other attendees, as I mentioned, was far more productive; almost all who have spent ANY amount of time investigating the Coverup felt that our intelligence was being insulted by focusing all the time and energy of these types of events strictly on "flying saucers" and "strange lights in the sky", when the spiritual aspect was being ignored. Intentionally ignored, and hostile towards even addressing it.
One woman who was an abductee had an amazing story to tell, and I hope she will share it with us here in the days and weeks to come.

I'll have more later, but wanted to report to the readers what happened over the past several days.

(BTW, I 'see' the saucer implications of the Baghdad 'Tomb of the Unknown Soldier' you posted, Dex; do you not see that, AntZtudiO?)

Thanks for the links to the Luca Scantamburlo, UJ. For those interested, I correspond with an Italian who has been in corrspondence with Barbato and other Italian researchers. He has a unique take on things, which I'll ask if I can share here openly.

Uncle John here: One UFO conference was enough for me, Dondep. At least at the one I went to, Hoagland and Brinkley really can get the crowd excited. Not counting the one at Rachel, of course.



UJ: If Dig talks the talk, he better be able to walk the walk. I'm not trying to fill Dig with love, he is overflowing with it, I'm trying to find somebody to discuss how to get rid of needless human suffering with me.



UJ: Perhaps that is a monument to thank the ET's for all the technology they scooped up from going to war to get. I bet there are secret messages all in that thing. And to think it was all paid for with American dollars and we are talking about many, many millions of dollars. Perhaps instead of going to war in Iraq to fetch the stargate, we went to Iraq to setup a stargate and that is really what the monument is. Just the thing to beam those returning Aununnaki down to their location of choice.



UJ: Let me know what you think of Luca's interview. It's like everybody is playing pin the tale (intentional sp) on the donkey as to who is top donkey in charge of the cover-up. It's not the Vatican secret service, it's the ET's stupid!

Damn, in all these years my spelling checker finally caught Dondep in a typo. It's correspondence not corrspondence. LOL. Yes Lord, we have all sinned.

Uncle John here: Ok, we all know what a big ego I have. I don't need to keep apologizing for it, so take the following with a grain of salt.

So Sunday night after drinking an allocated bottle of wine, I'm in such a good mood, talking to God, asking him why he doesn't solve this liver thing for me. The next morning this was my first email.



The report even contained the run on periods ... ROTFLMAO

I figured you must be away, that is what my ESP was telling me! LOL

Good report so far on your Ufer trip. I am disappointed in your take on Timothy Good. But I guess that is that British better than thou attitude and "programming" as usual it seems. Tow the usual line, don't go beyond it and then we will let you make it bigger, la de da type deal. How sad indeed. But what really gets me is asking these types of peoples questions, which I did with him via email and he actually answered me, but then to there was the plug for buy his books to. Oh well.

Will be awaiting to hear the rest of your report on this trip.





UJ: Not sure if I can debate the topic you are wanting ones to discuss with you but I have read all of Castanadas books and have all of them up to a point. I never really got real deep into them because somehow I felt something just not quite right somehow I think is best way to describe it.

But I think I can agree with your assessment of the programming aspects you brought out. From what I have heard, read and been told from all of this MKUltra Project experiments and also Montauk to, that they have perfected this mind programming to the point of actually being able to pinpoint certain individuals, or groups of genetics and program them with just about anything. The PTB know what signals, frequencies to use for various results and can even implant certain thoughts into ones brain and make them think it is their own thoughts.

I can hear these ELF waves being beamed at times and it sounbs to me like being able to hear a frequency going on inside of my ear drum, and even an affect similar to when one changes altitudes and their ears sort of pop. I had been hearing this on and off at various different times for many years and I finally asked someone, specifically Stewart Swerdlow and he stated that this was ELF being beamed down upon us and certain areas via satellite transmissions.

Then in asking what one can do to stop it and protect oneself from these transmissions he states emphatically that if one will image a violet tetrahedron shape around them, that this will stop it from getting to them. This is what Swerdlow says is the 'ultimate protection' from all of these types of things. And he further states that one can also use a violet octahedron around the tetrahedron shape and if one wants to they can also image mirrors reflecting these frequencies back to its source. And that when one does this it usually last around 3-4 days before they have to re-do it around themselves.

OK in saying this I can say that imo it does work. I have tried it numerous times when these frequencies begin in my ear and it does stop it for me. I have also included and tried the other aspects also and I think I can safely say I actually felt better for a few days after doing it and would not hear these frequencies again for several days. So imo it does work, but one has to try it for themselves to see if it works for them.

In a conversation I personally had with Preston Nichols, I asked him about these ELF frequencies/waves and he told me that they actually heat up the brain stem and they are very dangerous to the human brain. And it is a certain range of frequencies they found out would cause these specific things to occur and this is why they use them and they do work on the human brain and this is how a lot of programming is done now because before they used various torture methods. But by them learning to use these frequencies ranges, they can programme a person to do just about anything and them not realize what is going on with them. So, I am just not sure yet what to term this other than it is horrible that TPTB can and do do such things to us without our knowledge, consent or whatever. This is why I put the mirrors on the octahedron to try to reflect these beams back to whatever source is emitting them because I think I am secretly hoping that if enough peoples do this then possible it could short circuit the origin of it all. The mind is a powerful thing if we can only learn to use it properly. Whether the mind is within the brain or outside of the actual human brain, whatever source or mechanism the "mind" actually is is quite powerful if directed for a specific purpose.

In saying that I can say that I personally have tried directing certain thoughts, energies for specific things and some of them I feel did work.

I just wanted to mention this protection thing here for anyone to try if they want and see what experiences they have with it. We don't know just what all is being beamed and aimed at us, ELF, chemtrails, etc., etc. and somehow it has got to be stopped. If one wants to consider 'demons', to me and my way of seeing it, these types of things being done to humans I class as 'demonic' period. But I guess we all pretty well know that these PTB are 'demonic' in their own ways indeed.

It is just sad how they affect certain individuals and cause some to be such good little sheeples. I guess somehow my genetics must be rather a renegade type and all of their crapola just doesn't affect me as easily as it does others or else I wouldn't be seeing all I see and realize of what all is going on. It was stated that they figure about 5% of the population might be immune to it, but that is such a few vs. the majority that all of these programming aspects do affect they don't worry about that 5%. And certain genetics are immune to a lot of it indeed from the sources I have read on it.

OK, enough for now. This is some food for thought now.

brightstar

I would suggest adopting a homeless dog or cat. It is not only the humans who suffer. The species can help each other - select the least adoptable animal that you encounter and devote a ton of time to it.

I suspect that this may seem to simplistic for you UJ but it is a start.

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Don is back one day from that ufer conference - and now we are getting those all too familiar feedback bursts on our electronics (TV) that were a constant in Canada and Nevada. I had not heard one since we moved -- until today.

Brightstar - I would suggest that probably 80% of these "New Age" concepts and probably an equal percentage of conspiracy theories are actually the most common form of mind control (manipulation) - and that by taking them to heart - you are actually playing right into their hands. It has nothing to do with genetics - more like old fashioned propaganda and spin and repetition repetition repetition.

You do realize that the PTB are the ones that brought about the "New Age" movement.... ?

You must quit drinking the wine for awhile.
When your liver is affected. It has to be now.
Isn't life worth the effort to you?
It's only a matter of time before the point of no return.
These are the facts with this kind of problem UJ.

DonD, it hasn't changed from 30 years ago. Amazing. Sorry you had to experience that.

Dex

UJ... have you positied within yourself that your obsession with ‘alien thought control’ is a manifestation of your alcohol problem as a product of diversion from what is really consuming you as you imbibe a mind altering drug that deflects awareness from the possibility of the true cause thru alcohol abuse...?

When you get drunk off your fucking ass isn’t it easier to blame sometihing or someone else other than yourself from what is really ailing you so as to alleviate your own responsibility for your own actions...? Or is this the ‘only love can fill’ that refills your glass for another bottle...?

Is your liver acting up by means of ‘alien intervention’ or your own decision and aversion to a fine Chardonay...?


I readily confess a preference and liking to “Holland’s finest” ... but at what expense to individual accountability...??


Oh, I know how you hate the the eliptical sentences.... but what aspect of ‘thinking out loud’ would you suspect of “alien influence” when a person would rather conjecture and hypotheticalizse rather than ‘presume to know’ or judge when guilty of similair offenses...??


Don’t get me wrong here UJ, I do respect you for what you have accomplished in your life, primarily as a businessman, but there comes a point where we all must ‘fess up’ and assume responsibility for our own actions, and at that stage the “alien influence” has no place to substitue for individual responsibility the cause of our own actions.



I pray for you. I would venture to say we all wish you well. Do what you must to see it thru 2012...)))...!!!

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Hi all.

After many attempts to register I have finally succeeded, woohoo.


I had a quick look through the SNED says threads and this post caught my little eye :



Did anyone follow up with Dan on this issue? I've read through a lot of this material and I understand that all those present at the Treaty are responsible for "abductions" so does that mean TPTB have a list of every person those groups have taken over the years? I wonder if they highlight ones of interest?

And if so, what is the serious potential Dan is referring too?

Personally if I was being taken by who-knows-who TPTB would be the last people I'd like to know. Maybe this is connected to Milab abductions?

Also I believe Dan says we are now in our own universe and the J-Rods and Orions are in their own universe so does that mean they aren't doing abductions anymore?

And if the ETS aren't doing the abductions in this present time and people are still reporting having experiences then who is doing it?

Welcome and what a great question you yourself just asked, waterlady. It goes to the nexus of where both Dan and ZT seem to corroborate each other.

I've wanted to post for some time now, and made a short attempt awhile back, about how one elite's "rogues" are 'evil' and another's are 'saviors'. In other words, Chi'el'ah has been declared a "traitor" by Nancy Lieder's alleged STO zetas, while in the paradigm Chi'el'ah passed on to Dan, he bears his secret name (his 'home' society frowns on the habit of having secret 'names' as they have telepathy and therefore no-one needs a name to limit their understanding of who is who). So; to take the contrast between the paradigms a bit further, let's consider how a 'good' race of zetas would perform 'good' abductions, and why? In the ZT model, they (faction A of a zeta race) have been entrusted to take over responsibilities for the new model "soul-container" and repopulating the earth post-shift. The human authorities of the time recoiled in horror at the concept that the planet would endure such a traumatic near-ELE event, and decided that this group of rather 'ugly' (to their eyes) greys were trying to pull the wool over their eyes and wanted to come in and take over Earth and her resources.

Enter the 'selfish' ones, the ones dedicated to their own aggrandizement; they would have assured those same human authorities that they would exchange technology in exchange for certain 'liberties' to be given them, including bases underground where they could carry out their activities (abductions also, but for different reasons).

Now comes the recent video we're all apparently watching, or many of us anyway. I just sent an IM to one individual, who totally coincidentally was watching it also, not even getting the link from here. I have links now showing up in my inbox from Project Camelot itself, Victor's list, emails from others forwarding links and posts from other forums and groups.

I think it - the interview of Leo Scantamburlo, who is translating Christoforo Barbato, who is/was getting his information from a 'Vatican insider' that we've all heard before and seen the links to it - is legitimate.

{UJ, if I hadn't overlooked in my double-check, that typo wouldn't have shown up. I knew better.}

The entire Scantamburlo interview boils down to "Yes, there is such a thing as Planet X. It's the same thing as Nibiru. The Vatican has a space probe called "Siloe" that has filmed it, part of its space program called "Kerigma", and that it all falls under the dominion of the "S.I.V.", which is itself under an all-powerful organization called "SVS", which is apparently related to the "S.I.V." the same way Majestic 12 is related to the CIA.

The group of Vatican insiders choose Barbato because he writes articles for Stargate magazine about the "Third Secret of Fatima", which as many of us are convinced is related to the warning of the return of "Planet X"/Nibiru. They claim to feel a "moral obligation" to warn humanity of the consequences of the return of this "planetoid"/brown dwarf.

Barbato gets this information in 2000/2001, but only decides to make it public (despite his claimed corroboration of the identity of the Jesuit 'insider') in APRIL 2005. Now, how weird is that? Coincidentally, that was the very month that we released the affidavit that Dan had signed, also with a press release, and also meeting the same response as did Barbato's press release.

Bill Ryan, towards the middle of the second video (Part 2 of 2), really seems to want to make it out NOT like the "Planet X" of ZT, and many will try to do the same. "Is it a big, gaseous planet?" "No", Scantamburlo replies. "So, if it's inhabited, how does that work?" "I don't know; maybe they all live underground, maybe there is plenty of light and heat generated from the interior, who knows?"

To get back to your question about Dan's comments about abductions, waterlady; I take the very controversial approach that it's highly likely the 'victims' of ET abductions have in fact made a decision in their subconscious/unconscious/soul to agree to have genetic material provided to help make the first generation of hybrids between humans and zetas. In their conscious mind however, as in most of us, the idea of having humans being abducted by aliens and forced to have sex or at least provoking orgasm (as Frog can point out in a story he had heard from one abductee who told him that the ETs had placed her in a state of constant orgasm......she was livid about how violated it made her feel....though as most men would attest it doesn't sound like torture to them) would give many of us the shudders but might be a reasonable cover to good-hearted aliens who weren't too clear on how to best put us at ease. Let's face it; most men would THINK they would enjoy that sensation, but once we hear from a real abductee who had similar experiences even we males might be much more hesitant.

Project Preserve Destiny, for those that are new and haven't read the account by Sgt. Dan Sherman, would have a record of all the abductions (supposedly all, that is). For all we know, those abductions resulted in the future Adam and Eve that's completing their construction even now as I type this.

Uncle John here: Want to see something that reminds me of that structure in Iraq.

http://secretsun.blogspot.com/2008/02/d ... es-to.html



UJ: The run on periods I site are not redacted quotes for responding just to a portion of a quote. In my observation the run on periods symbolize the mind of the writer being redacted, something quite different.

God, I love figures of speech.