I side with ‘The Ferret’ on this one, and I would prefer to stay out of squabbles.

‘The Ferret’ is not the only one who feels “this board is Pro Nancy Lieder or Pro Planet “X”” and what is dismissed as “laughable” (along with the cute little ROFLMAO emoticon) is also my own personal opinion in agreement with ‘The Ferret.’ This site is both pro Nancy Lieder AND pro PX as NL relays thru her ‘zetas,’ and I have told Dondep this on more than one occasion.

However, irregardless of the cause that “the earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard,” Dondep and I can easily reconcile our differences in the need for preparedness and emergency supplies.

“Planet X,” or “Hercolubus,” or “Wormwood” or whatever designation given, whether it be from legend, Sitchen’s works, Oahspe, or the Bible are quite different and diverse sources than some lady channeling ‘zetas’ giving a message that the earth has been halted in it’s orbit for the last 6 years. Apparently ‘The Ferret’ would like “actual FACTS,” and I cannot blame that person either. I surmise I have not been paying sufficient attention to have noted his or her “high and mighty attitude” when the less gullible encounter the absurd.

Apologies in advance if my opinion offends TPTB around here.

speaking of Extraterrestria Life:

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http://www.alienvideo.net/0805/alien-ab ... lation.php

Or it could be just as they say, Don.

Why draw attention to supposed 'PX' by blocking it out with big black marker pen type blocks? Surely that would only encourage keen eyed and inquisitive folk, with telescopes good enough, to go looking there in that area of sky for themselves? It would be easily visible by now according to the claims about it's size/position, surely? So that does not make any sense.

Though I've yet to hear any PX'ers actually agree on exactly the dimensions/trajectory/position as yet, to be honest.

Oh, and, sorry, everyone in the world who challenges the reality of PX is sucked in by NASA's story and putting their head in the sand, too dumb to think it out for themselves !

I notice Recall did not come back on that issue. No argument to counter the explanation I posted? Just let's ignore the challenge to what we're saying and hope it all goes away, eh? After all, let's not let actual FACTS get in the way of blind belief when it comes to good ol' PX!

As seems to be getting more prevalent sadly on this forum, unquestioning acceptance of Nibiru/PX and Nancy Lieder's Zetas drivel is taking over from common sense and objective reasoning. Is the Golden Thread going the way of the other conspiracy obsessed doomsday 'woo woo' forums now?

On the topic of "feedback" and The Golden Thread(s).

I have seen a few heated discussions here, which is healthy an honest. Being resectful should be second nature here.(IMO)

Also, I didn't see any abuse of MODship on Don's part. So why remove him?

(Ha, just a lurker's view)

epo3

I never ONCE said that Don abused as you say his "MODship".

In fact Don is the most diplomatic and honest man I have ever known but I think he will agree with me on this one.

Just because he and others occasionally post a "quote" from NL and or from other web sources, that does NOT make this forum a CULT.

I know a guy that works for EG&G at Area 51, he was always complaining about the "old guy" that insisted that they use an old archaic computer language. He said it was in use because it's simplicity made it safe, but that as far as he was concerned, it was past the point of diminishing returns. He did tell me the name, and I don't remember it being Forth

They are doing some weird stuff with refrigerator-sized magnets at Area 51.

Also, I know an expert in Eiffel programming language, another dinosaur. It wasn't Eiffel, either.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eiffel_(pr ... g_language)

Now that's funny!

I hope I didn't offend, I misread you wrt Don.

I don't see any "CULT here either. It seems common for folks in disagreements on forums to start the accusations though.

So I'll just kinda sneak back to my lurking mode...

epo3

I am building a great case against you and your cartel, something the world will hear, even if you murder me and my family.


I’ve studied evolutionary processes on this planet and, therefore, understand and have decoded your moves and actions to establish a socialist/fascist police state in the United States.



I also know that fascist American Wall Street bankers have tried this before: in 1933 and 1934, Wall Street bankers attempted a fascist putsch and tried to overthrow President Franklin D. Roosevelt and also recruit a two-time winner of the Medal of Honor, MG Smedley Darlington Butler, to lead an army of 500,000 soldiers to march on the White House.

It was all a ruse, staged by The First Sphere of Influence, which needed Roosevelt as its presidential pawn. FDR went on to create what is thought of as the most prolific fascist presidency. [Until George W. Bush came into office.]

Irv Thalberg, said on more than one occasion, to the effect: “Writers are the most important part of the filmmaking process, and we must never let them know this.”

Likewise, you know that Americans are the most significant and valued part of the entire social and political process, with unlimited power, and you must never let us know it, lest we rise up and drag you and your cartel members back behind the wood pile and execute you.

Ferret your high and mighty attitude is starting to get old and this latest post of your's is boarder line crossing the Golden Rule.
We have let your comments go in the past but I think it's time for a friendly reminder that we allow ALL beliefs and theories here UNLIKE the other forums you speak of.

NO ONE asked you to believe what Recall or Don posts about PX, personally I am on the fence with the whole P/X subject but I read their posts to see what others think.

As for the Nancy Lieder comment, I for one don't believe a word she says and personally think she's a few bricks short of a load.

So for you to state that the this board is Pro Nancy Lieder or Pro Planet "X" is laughable...

That is obviously b]YOUR PERSONAL OPINION ONLY [/b] and to be honest it actually OFFENDS me

Me and the staff here volunteer allot of our personal time to offer you and the rest of the GT a fair and balanced board and if you had read anything other than the GT here you would know that

If you want to post your opinions here we strongly encourage you to do so BUT do it nicely.

Otherwise as you say please put your coat on and find another board that suites your personal beliefs.

This is NOT a squable it's a request to be nice.
Just because one does not believe in another's post or belief does NOT give one the right to BRAND an entire board with a very wide brush.
That is what I took offense to and why I stepped in, I have spent ALLOT of time rebuilding & restoring this place and to be sort of called a cult really offends me!

That being said there is ONLY one way to fix this stigma and that's from input from the people who read here, no input means no fix so please keep the feedback coming.



Just because a few active members post about PX & NL on the golden Thread does NOT mean that this entire board is PRO ANYTHING...
We simply allow our members FREEDOM to post their opinions on the GT with limited MODERATION....

The Golden Thread is all about an open and broad discussion about MANY topics.
I am saddend to hear that some of you feel that it's a one sided discusion as this tells me that all our work here has been a failure...



Pagemaker that is why we made this entire Survival Section, NOT becasue we believe Planet X is gonna kill us all but because Prepping is a GOOD THING, you should check it out and maybe even contribute your knowledge

viewforum.php?f=19



This is NOT the first time that Ferret has come off with the "Higher than Mighty" & the I know more than you attitide I can assure you.

How many times have you seen a warning from me or the staff in the past?



No need to appologize Pagemaker, your a valuable and LONG TIME contributer to the GT and all of us respect your thougts.

Opinions are very much welcomed, as I said above how can we improve and grow as a board if we don't get any feedback?

Just this past weekend one of our staff was asked if we could make a new section and we did, did anyone even here even notice?

Maybe it's time that I remove Don as a Moderator?
Don will be the first one to confirm this, he has only ever been an advisor to the board rather than a Moderator.

Maybe Don's beliefs and him being a Moderator makes people "THINK" there is some sort of influence behind the scenes here at the GT?

You know what they say about assumptions right?








YUK......................

I have not labelled this forum a 'cult' nor suggested that anywhere, L2L, only expressed disappointment at the heavy emphasis of acceptance on certain issues of late with little critical attempts to counter it. Nor have I made any slur against Don's excellent moderation, even when disagreeing with him...that was raised by yourself.

Your comment that "This is NOT the first time that Ferret has come off with the "Higher than Mighty" & the I know more than you attitide I can assure you" is a little over the top, I'd say, but that's your interpretation I guess.

You state ..
"That being said there is ONLY one way to fix this stigma and that's from input from the people who read here, no input means no fix so please keep the feedback coming" and "Opinions are very much welcomed, as I said above how can we improve and grow as a board if we don't get any feedback?"

Wasn't that exactly what I was trying to do?

Anyway, enough said as I have no desire to squabble either so I'll leave it there.
Thanks for your supportive comment, Pagemarker, and I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt this.

Aliens visiting Earth will be just like humans, scientist claims2012 Changes Are Now

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/ ... rth-humans


2012 CHANGES ARE NOW
Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:19:48 AM

Governments should prepare for the worst if aliens visit Earth because beings from outer space are likely to be just like humans, a leading scientist is claiming.

Extra-terrestrials might not only ­resemble us but have our foibles, such as greed, violence and a tendency to exploit others' resources, says Simon ­Conway Morris, professor of evolutionary ­paleobiology at Cambridge University.

And while aliens could come in peace they are quite as likely to be searching for somewhere to live, and to help themselves to water, minerals and fuel, Conway Morris will tell a conference at the Royal Society in London tomorrow.

His lecture is part of a two-day conference at which experts will discuss how we might detect life on distant planets and what that could mean for society. "Extra-terrestrials … won't be splodges of glue … they could be disturbingly like us, and that might not be a good thing – we don't have a great record."

The US space agency's search for alien life is based upon the mantra "follow the water", a strategy reflecting the fact that, on Earth, where there's water there's life. Recent missions have ­revealed ice on the moon and Mars.

Astronomers have detected more than 400 planets outside our solar system, some of which sit in the ­"Goldilocks zone" where the temperature is neither too hot nor too cold for liquid water to form.

Conway Morris will argue that alien life is most likely to occur on a planet similar to our own, with organisms made from the same biochemicals. The process of evolution will even shape alien life in a similar way, he added.

"My view is that Darwinian evolution is really quite predictable, and when you have a biosphere and evolution takes over, then common themes emerge and the same is true for intelligence.

"If you have a planet much smaller than ours, the gravity is so weak it loses its atmosphere. If the planet is much bigger, its gravity is so strong that everything crawls around on the ground, because you don't have to fall far to break everything. It's fantastically dull."

The meeting is the first in a series that marks the Royal Society's 350th anniversary. Future conferences will tackle the science of ageing, vaccines, stem cells and geoengineering: the use of technology to protect the planet from the adverse effects of climate change.

Albert Harrison, a professor of psychology at the University of California, Davis, who is speaking at the meeting tomorrow, will raise concerns about the radio signals humans are sending out to any eavesdropping aliens.

Scientists have used telescopes to listen for alien broadcasts for more than 20 years, but we have also beamed our own signals into space. Harrison wonders if we might be sending the wrong kind of messages.

"Some of them are serious, but there's a lot of hoopla, like love letters and commercials. What would we make of an alien civilisation if the first thing we translated from them was a commercial for a snack food?" he said.

In the spring, scientists will debate whether Earth should be more proactive in trying to make contact with aliens by broadcasting signals to solar systems that might harbour life.

Some enthusiasts believe any alien civilisation capable of reaching us can only have survived long enough to develop the necessary technology by solving major social problems, such as war, poverty and discrimination. Harrison disagrees.

"I do think there's a risk in active searches for extra-terrestrials. The attitude seems to be they're friendly, they're a long way away, and they can't get here. But if you wake up one morning and an armada of extra-terrestrial spaceships are circling Earth, that prediction won't necessarily hold," Harrison said.

If life has evolved elsewhere in our cosmic neighbourhood, we should find out by detecting their waste gases in the atmosphere of their planet or by discovering remnants of extra-terrestrial microbes in meteorites or alien soil samples, he said.

Harrison dismisses fears of public panic if alien life is discovered, of the kind which reportedly followed Orson Welles' infamous radio broadcast of War of the Worlds in 1938.

"The public reaction was overstated. Most people who thought the broadcast was real took sensible actions to protect themselves," Harrison said. "Surveys suggest most people think they will be fine, but they worry about others freaking out."

Ted Peters, professor of systematic theology at the Pacific Lutheran Theological Seminary in California, has surveyed religious groups to understand whether confirmation of extra-terrestrials could trigger the collapse of religion on Earth.

His research suggests not, but he believes Christians should clarify whether God's creation covers the whole of space or just Earth.

SOURCE

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/ ... rth-humans

Phatman

You're living in Cabrillo Park?

Dex