Yeah, right. If our visitors are 'just like' us earthlings, then arguably we will have little difficulty grasping the fact that they are as diverse in their motives, beliefs, tactics and capacities as we ourselves are.

Another scare tactic, IMO.

Cheers,

Selene

Looks Like Chavez.. Not that I would agree upon much of anything he would say... Says the US caused the earthquake with the testing of a Military weapon. He did not call it a Guage Weapon but.. And you wonder why these people are sticking it to me..

I don't know why I attract certain people. My wife calls them "Those People". I call them people who are open to truth and light. It is time for a revolution of the mind. It is our only free frontier. It must be preserved because at this point it is under attack as are all our senses.

http://www.youtube.com/v/QaN3bgZssi4&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1

Phatman - it appears Chavez didn't actually say that. See below:

Hugo Chavez most probably didn't say that..
by talos
Thu Jan 21st, 2010 at 10:27:32 PM EST

A case study in spreading a false rumor I think is developing right now over the internets and the tweeters... The story goes like this: Chavez claims that the US used tectonic weapons technology or whatever it's supposed to be called, to cause the earthquake in Haiti, as a test for the real target which is Iran!

There is even a video from Russian TV titled "Chavez: US weapon test caused Haiti earthquake", a report that shows a (stock?) video of Chavez speaking without being heard and which basically claims that Chavez told the Spanish daily ABC, about the U.S. Navy using a weapon that induced earthquakes on Haiti, as preparation for a "tectonic" attack on Iran. This is quoted approvingly and sarcastically literally all over the www.

The problem is that it doesn't seem likely that Chavez ever claimed such a thing. ABC, which certainly doesn't read like the type of newspaper Chavez would be giving exclusive and incredible interviews to, isn't clear on that at all, although admittedly it goes out of its way to spin it otherwise:

"El antiamericano Gobierno de Venezuela, en su habitual paranoia contra el imperio yanqui, asegura que el seísmo de Haití «es resultado de una prueba de la Marina estadounidense», y denuncia que lo que devastó el país caribeño fue «un terremoto experimental de EE.UU.»."

Notice that it's the "Venezuelan government", not Chavez making the claim...

ABC then supposedly quotes Chavez (?) but it's not at all clear from where:

Si hace diez días Hugo Chávez sacó de internet la foto de un avión de guerra y acusó a Washington de violar el espacio aéreo venezolano, ahora culpa directamente al tío Sam de arrasar Haití «con estas pruebas en cuyo objetivo final está el plan de destruir Irán con una serie de terremotos diseñados para derrocar a su régimen islámico».

The quote isn't sourced, and I have the feeling that it is might be related to a news story on Vive, a Venezuelan State TV station, mentioned in the last part of the article and here in an earlier version of what is possibly the same story, where a link is provided.

Actually this last part is true. I mean even FOX news says so, and this time it's right! It's supposedly based on a report of the Russian fleet, and it attributes all the speculation to them. It no longer exists at its original location provided by ABC, because it was taken down - surely not a sign of government approval, one would think. This is the cached page.

So basically this whole "Chavez is a conspiracy theorist" meme is spreading based on a news story that Vive published on its website but didn't directly endorse, and which was taken down pretty fast (notice the brief time lag between the first ABC story and the second that does not include the link to the site - something like 3 1/2 hours).

I note that Venezuelean government sites are issuing reassuring notices to the public that the Haiti quake will not "spread" to Venezuela, hardly the sort of stuff they'd be publishing if Chavez was serious about a "tectonic weapon threat" eh? And nothing is mentioned about this whole conspiracy on the Venezuelan government site yet.

So I'm fairly confident that ABC does not have a direct quote form Chavez on this, but I'm really impressed by the speed that such memes travel around the web, with hardly any scepticism offered. The question is: will the "major" media fall for this? Or, alternatively, has Hugo gone loco on us? ABC insists that:

A través de una nota emitida por su Gobierno, Chávez acusa a la Marina de Estados Unidos de provocar el devastador terremoto que la pasada semana asoló Puerto Príncipe

But then it's a bulletin issued by the government (?) it seems, not Chavez's statement... or does ABC simply consider everything published even temporarily on the state TV website, Chavez's words? Let's wait and see if there is anything of substance in this...

http://www.eurotrib.com/story/2010/1/21/222732/506

just reconecting this bit of info...

Israel Makes Waves by Simulating an Earthquake(1)


(1)
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/133083

more on Chavez:

Chávez y Rusia afirman que el terremoto en Haití fue provocado por los EEUU(1):


(1)
http://momento24.com/2010/01/20/chavez- ... los-ee-uu/

Translated:

August 2, 2007

Massive ULF ‘Blast’ Detected In US Bridge Collapse Catastrophe

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers



Reports from Russia’s Institute of Solar-Terrestrial Physics located in Irkutsk are reporting today that their Siberian Solar Radio Telescope (SSRT) detected a ‘massive’ ultra low frequency (ULF) ‘blast’ emanating from Latitude: 45° 00' North Longitude: 93° 15' West at the ‘exact’ moment, and location, of a catastrophic collapse of a nearly 2,000 foot long bridge in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

To the horrific destruction of the Interstate 35W Bridge which spanned the Mississippi River we can read as reported by the Star Tribune News Service:

"The 1,907-foot bridge fell into the Mississippi River and onto roadways below. The span was packed with rush hour traffic, and dozens of vehicles fell with the bridge leaving scores of dazed commuters scrambling for their lives.

Nine people were confirmed dead as of 4 a.m. today. Sixty were taken to hospitals and 20 people were still missing this morning. Authorities said they expected the death toll to rise."



Russian Military reports state that the total collapse of such a massive bridge, and in the absence of evidence linking its destruction to terrorist activity, could only have been accomplished by an acoustic weapon, of which the United States Military is known to possess.

These reports further state that one of the United States primary research organizations into acoustic weapons research is Augsburg College, and which is located in Minneapolis, Minnesota, and most importantly less than 1 mile from the Interstate 35W Bridge collapse.

To the exact reason of why, and what exactly happened in this catastrophe we can only speculate, but, with what is known about the United States past history of using sophisticated weapons on their own citizens for ‘research’ purposes it certainly lies in the realm of possibility that this horrific tragedy is rooted in the use of ULF weapons.

To the past usage of these new types of weapons we can read even back into the 1980’s of the United States research into their use as reported by the CNN News Service:



"Imagine the implications of a weapon with no visible trace -- a weapon that could knock out tanks, ships, and planes as fast as the speed of light. The same technology, with modifications, could disorient and even tranquilize military personnel, rendering them virtually helpless in the battle zone. These are the new weapons of war we will examine in this series.

For the past 40 years, the world has been riveted by the threat of nuclear war, and more recently by the prospect of space defenses using lasers and other modern technologies.

Lightning is the most dramatic form of energy to be found in nature. Scientists have succeeded in creating limited types of artificial lightning. And some think that these could be the forerunners of a new type of directed-energy weapon, part of a family of weapons that operate within the radio frequency segment of the electromagnetic spectrum, and are thus referred to as radio frequency weapons."

To the dangers of ULF weapons being used against civilians we can read the warnings of Dr. Rauni Leena Kilde, MD, the former Chief Medical Officer for Lapland (northern Finland), who warned in 1999:

"When the use of electromagnetic fields, extra-low (ELF) and ultra-low (ULF) frequencies and microwaves aimed deliberately at certain individuals, groups, and even the general population to cause diseases, disorientation, chaos and physical and emotional pain breaks into the awareness of the general population, a public outcry is inevitable."

To the exact reason of why the United States would be targeting Minneapolis with such a massive ULF ‘blast’ we can find in the exact neighborhoods that surround the Interstate 35W Bridge, and which are home to one of the largest Muslim populations in the United States, including over 30,000 Somalis who are outraged by the US sponsored invasion of their home Nation by Ethiopian forces.

For the American people as a whole, this catastrophe provides yet another example of the consequences of their allowing their Military Forces to gain total control over their economy and lives, and which history has long shown leads always towards total destruction.

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Confirmation of Guage weapons.. ? You decide...

Translated via Google Translate:

Russia Navy did not prepare a report on the causes of earthquakes in Haiti, say at the headquarters of the Northern Fleet
January 20. Interfax-Russia.ru -

As Russia's Navy was called "science fiction" approval of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, with reference to the report of the Northern Fleet that the earthquake in Haiti due to the United States Navy tests of seismic weapons.

"Such claims are classified as science fiction, to which the Northern Fleet has no relevance" - told Interfax-AVN source in the headquarters of the Northern Fleet of Russia.

"The actions of Northern Fleet ships in the North Atlantic are subject to very different tasks, and certainly not a study of natural disasters in conjunction with the testing of weapons by any country", - said the agency interlocutor.

The Spanish newspaper A-Bae-Se reported earlier on Venezuelan state television circulated a statement of Hugo Chavez, who said that the earthquake was caused by Haiti's challenge the U.S. navy secret seismic weapon. In this statement the president of Venezuela made reference to some secret report Russia's Northern Fleet.

Chavez, as quoted by the A-Bae-Se, noted that, as stated in the report, "The Northern Fleet (Russia-IF) monitors the movement and activity of the U.S. Navy in the Caribbean since 2008, when the Americans announced their intention to re-establish Fourth Fleet, dissolved in 1950, to which Russia responded a year later, beginning with the first cold-war doctrine in the region with nuclear cruiser "Peter the Great.

The report allegedly prepared by the Northern Fleet, compared to "trials of the American fleet of seismic weapons twice in the last week - the first, caused a magnitude 6.5 earthquake in Eureka, California, which ended without casualties, the second - in the Caribbean Sea, causing the deaths of at least 140 thousand innocent.

As noted in the text referred to a newspaper report, "very likely" that "Washington has been full of information about the catastrophic damage that could potentially cause this test, in connection with which Washington sent in Haiti, the head of Southern Command, U.S. Army, General Keane in order to monitor aid, if such would be required.

"According to Moscow and Caracas, the ultimate goal of testing such weapons - continues to Spanish newspaper - is an American plan to destroy Iran's series of artificially induced earthquakes and the overthrow of the current Islamic regime."

"Finally - the newspaper said - the Government Chavez stated that the State Department, USAID and the organization of the Southern Command began the humanitarian intervention by sending (in Haiti - IF) is not less than 100 thousand soldiers and contractors in order to place the UN to control the Haitian territory pilot after the devastating earthquake. "

Link to the original article in Russian.

http://www.interfax-russia.ru/NorthWest/main.asp?id=119579

The link to the Russian article above came from this blog:

The evil genius of the U.S. plan to destroy Haiti
Posted By Daniel W. Drezner Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 11:07 AM Share

I, for one, am glad that the foreign press is brave enough to cover what America's mainstream media is not -- the U.S. government's complicity in causing the Haitian earthquake. Never mind that the foreign media echo chamber aparentluy started with a false rumor -- with luck, our MSM will now start asking the tough questions.

This is a plan so brilliant that only the Evil League of Evil, in conjunction with the reverse vampires and the Obama administration, could have devised.

Why, you might ask? What is America's motivations to trigger Haiti's earthquake and then intervene? Well, there are different theories bandied about.

Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez suggests that this was a practice "drill," designed to test the earthquake weapon before targeting Iran. Very clever!! It is unclear whether Chavez believes that this is a test of the "demonstration effect" variety or not.

This Canadian-based Centre for Research on Globalization's Ken Hildebrandt offers the following ingenious explanation:



This is... brilliant!! It makes perfect sense that the Obama administation would try to kill upwards of 200,000 Haitians in order to bring the country together as one! Because, clearly, in recent yeears, natural disasters have bolstered the standing of U.S. presidents!! Certainly, a calamity in Haiti would work even better! If only Rush Limbaugh had played ball....

What I love about conspiracies like these is the careful balancing of smart and stupid that the key actors have to possess in order for the plan to work as described.

Question to readers: how far and how wide will this meme travel?

http://drezner.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/01/26/the_evil_genius_of_the_us_plan_to_conquer_haiti

http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/ is another victim of PTB tyranny.. !

We were the first the develpors built the homes for.
From second grade on up to High School I lived on El Cajon ave....Where you're living is called Cabrillo Park. Mostly orchards then. From scratch and dirt, each neighbor built their own yards, planted the grass, erected the fences. The homes sold for $10,000. Look at a map where El Cajon Ave is. I lived in Fremont from the 50's till mid 70's. I must have had a few thousand friends I grew up with there. Human and humanoid ET's..including ET witches invaded the environment in the 70's. They came to repair the emotional despair resulting from invasive possessions' invited from over rampant drug and alcohol abuse.
A long story and mission with the ET's saving the kids...
A book should be written about this.

Dex

Did the Illuminati, Majestic, $cion and $cion2 after saw something in the Sky are now working hard on Pakistan ?


Intelligence agencies in India have brought to the notice of the government that Pakistan has been frantically building up tunnels in areas not far from the border with India. (1)



(1)
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 496241.cms

I live off Mowry and Blacow. I guess you would call it upper central Fremont. Cabrillo is considered North Fremont these days. I grew up in a sleepy town near the coast, La Honda.. Not much there now.. It was an isolated enclave for the working class. It wasn't until the late 60's that the hippies came.

Blue kachina....Blue Dollar.

What is missing?

Hi MK,

I have enjoyed reading this site for sure. IMO what he is saying is telling Zibig that he knows of his evil plans, even more than what he has posted so far, and letting him know he is not afraid of him or his minions either. With all that I have read, I have to agree with the most of what I have read so far on his blog site because Zibig is behind a lot of the evils occurring as well as Kissinger, the Bush's, the Clinton's, and now Obama apparently is going along with some or most of their evils. After all it is a pretty well known fact that Brzezinski is one of Obama's mentors. When I learned that little tidbit right there, that told me not to trust Obama period. And the more I find out the less I trust him and his socialistic/facist plans he is trying to force down our throats, and the poor unknowing masses who have fallen for their line of lies and deceits. One more tidbit I might add is that Germany and Russia are not enemies like many try to portray, they are both involved in all of this or that "ideaology" that encompasses those dictator types might be a better way to put it because it is an evil sickness in their minds, but they want to try to force it upon the entire planet, that is what all of this NWO BS is about, total control of everyone and everything. Which we have to try to stop somehow. GOOD READ indeed. Thanks for posting this.


brightstar

Cross posting:
From BRADENTAPES
Just in case there are those who do not yet know I will explain.

In the 1940s a famouse physicist made a statement to himself. ( I forget
his name).

He said: When I go to sleep at nignt and have a dream I do not know it is
a dream. Everything is solid and taqngeable and the people are real.

However, when I awake I say to myself that I just had a dream....But how do
I know while awake that I have not just entered another dream?

He worked on the physics and finally conceeded that this was, in fact, a
holographic universe. He got togeather with his fellow physicists and they
too said that all the figures were conclusive......however in this period
there was no way yet to "physically" prove their findings.

In other words, in this era and the state of science, man would surely
devise a way to prove it in this dimension.

In 1998 physicists did just that!! Researchers at Hewlit Packard did just
that. HP had been working for about three years on micro enginearing,
mounting pc boards to molecules. Scientists at several universities were
contracted by HP to create wiring that was microscopically small. And they did it.
HP had a right to be proud of themselves, so they put all this on their
web pages and my son guided me to their page. Si far so good .....right?

Later, however, HP added a new divice purchased from IBM that increased the
magnification of their project. They concluded that the molecules were no
more than light produced by electomagnety induced pulses of light. WOW!!
LOOK WHAT WE JUST LEARNED!!! They were very proud to show the world what they
had accomplished.

Immediatly the government stepped in and said that was top secret
information and told them to take any of their findings off the web.

From this day to the present the government began research on Holographic
projection....24/7!!!

When I first saw what HP discovered I realized also somethig vital about
our reality. The one we have always refered to as GOD....Is in fact our
projectionist!!!
We literally had proven that God is a real entity. It is an energy that
is self aware and creating its dream and ours as well.

All that exists is God. every leaf ona tree, each blade of grass and US
are all a piece of this self aware energy and are pieces of God. We
smell...we feel...we taste and all of it is God. God us a manmade name but in a
vision the name given to me was Masuvious. ( I may or may not explain this
later.)

HP went to sleep then and no more was written on this matter,,,in other
words they stayed quiet. I called several of their managers and tried to find
out more but they denied that they had ever worked on micro engineering. I
also got in touch with the science journal that carried the article and they
too denied all information.

So to conclude the serious nature of this discovered reality I come to
realize that if the government were to find a way to project our "new" reality,
we could find ourselves waking up one morning remembering only that we were
slaves and they were our kings or deities

I have always been a profound thinker and realised that simply by
observing what science is creating we also are aware of the end of days as we know
them. The one we call God will never permit man to become gods.

Incidently we know that God has a sense of humor. He did create man did he
not?

Hi GT Admin,

You said you wanted some feedback. I think the GT is one of the best, if not the best site for posting many, diverse opinions and informations on. We have had the best forum I think of any that I have been on and I really like this about it.

No, we don't all agree with every post, nor believe every single item posted, but the point is that so many come here and offer so many different bits and pieces which helps to make a whole come to betterment and we have done it and all gotten along pretty good for the most part I feel. There are always going to be some posts that may sound really out there for sure, but at least the subject is broached and put out there and then others may find more informations to help support it or not. No one person can keep up with all that gets posted here and this is what makes it all so good because it helps to fill in blanks of things others sometimes posts. And for the most part if we disagree we do it respectfully, which is the right way to do it because negative remarks or comments do not get anyone anywhere. Some of these far out things just might have much more truth to them than we originally thought also, which many times winds up being the case it seems.

For me, if someone says something negative about something I say, so be it, that is their choice to feel that way, just be respectful in disagreeing and not lash out, and IF something negative is said then I personally ignore it because it benefits no one to try to keep the negative continueing.

I have stated on here before that I still have my doubts on PX and I don't agree with all that NL/ZT states, but I am not just going to dismiss it as all total BS because there are too many others out there now telling and talking on this topic. It is always better to be aware of something and it not happen, then to not know anything at all about it and then it happens and one is caught totally unaware. And this is how I feel with this entire topic of PX. I have family members in total deniel over it also that I have to deal with so it is a pleasure to come here and be able to chat about such things with others of like minds, that is what this is all about and that is how I have tried to keep it. Sometimes in writting out discussions on certain topics other points may come to light that another might disagree with, but it doesn't make it wrong, it just shows that it hit on something in someone else somehow so maybe they need to look within and address it if it bothers them first. If they then can't resolve any negative feelings, thoughts or attitudes, then go to that person privately and discuss it with them and why it bothers them is how I would try to handle it if it bothered me that bad.

As for Dondep being the Moderator I feel this is just fine and I personally have no problems with this at all. He was Moderator when I came to this GT thread in the first place and it is not my place to suggest it be done any different. Dondep is always as polite as he can be on here and tries to write out all he can to help others understand where he is coming from. Doesn't mean everyone has to believe every word he writes or cross posts, just as the same holds true for everyone of us on here. He has this right, the same as everyone of the rest of us do so long as we do it politelly and be courteous to each other. That is what has made this thread so good. This is my feelings and opinions on it anyway and I see no need to change anything either. We are all searching for TRUTH, that is what it is all about by coming here in the first place.

So I will say a BIG THANK YOU TO GT ADMIN and to DONDEP and all else who come here and post because you all help me to see a bigger picture of things. And when I feel I can contribute something that might help I then post, otherwise I remain quiet and reading and lurking. Thanks to everyone on here that posts all you do because bit by bit we do get more bits of the truth I think.



brightstar

Uncle John here: The "Series 2010" is missing or perhaps it is too small for me to read in that photo?

George could use a little plastic surgery on his chin.

It does not have the "Bank of New York" as on the current one dollar bill. This is not on a current $5/10/20/100 bill. Perhaps we have two agencies issuing money?

It is missing one signature, Secretary of the Treasury. Come to think of it, why do we have both a Treasurer of the United States and a Secretary of the Treasury? Strange, Rosie Rios, is the current treasurer of the United States? What happened to Timothy Geithner, the current Secretary of the Treasury?

If this is not real then somebody went to a lot of work to create this.

What's missing?

"In God We Trust." first and formost.

Uncle John here: "In God We Trust" is on the back of the bills.

Thanks for the feedback brightstar

What you don't see in the dollar are the hidden security features. One of these security features is DNA embedded in a crystal. This DNA strand like all DNA sings a harmony in audible frequencies. It is part of the harmony of nature itself. Excite the crystals and you are able to hear the overtones of the DNA. How about that... ? What really pisses off the PTB's is how people like me are able to come up with things like this. The visible security features are vastly improved as well. The tracking chips which are embedded allow a door scanner to know exactly how much money you have on your person. People flying should not carry money belts unless they are well shielded.

I recall reading part of the PATRIOT Act which stated.. That we would not be able to do any transactions with the use of our National ID cards. Well, thank GOD for Ron Paul who told the PTB's that this was an invasion of privacy and the civil liberties of each one of us. It was shot down in congress. The NID cards double as trackable devices which would allow the PTB's to be able to track you from space. As I told you before, the NSA did and end run on congress by giving away moving map technology which went into GPS hand helds and more importantly... your phones. For those of us who know better to carry GPS enable devices what would you bet that the money now has RFID's which can be tracked from space ?

Tagamet / Cimetidine has been found to be a great immune system bolsterer. The antacid Cimetidine proves very useful in combating H1NI and other Influenza type sicknesses. Along with Vitamin D.. Nano Silver and Allicin (garlic derivative) it can kick the Flu's butt..

Pink Sky on Russia:

Will Iran Be Subject to a Guage Weapon Attack. I.E. will it be hit with a Guage Weapon ? Guage weapons are most effective in solids and liquids. Space based Guage weapons dissipate more energy through the atmosphere so a sub attack would be most likely. Will Iran be hit by massive earth quakes in the near future ? A relatively undetectable weapon such as this is something I am sure the PTB's would capitalize upon.

Stay tuned as the adventures of Buck Rogers and the Crazy Uncle Named Sam murders millions to stop them from spreading Trillions of counterfeit US dollars. And you thought the blue dollars were from us being really sad ? I am saying that China is behind Iran and the counterfeit dollars are another way they can attack us and our fiat currency. Don't you just love the irony and the superfluous hubris of that Crazy Uncle Sam and his wacko super soldiers who only know how to say "Yes Sir" ?

I say question authority.. They really don't know what they are doing any more than you or I.. !!!

I don't think I need point out how in tune we are becoming... I believe that it is overstating the obvious. Even so long live the shepherds who watch over their flocks..

If I'm not mistaken there is no $ sign, or symbol.

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The 'Subject'

I was originally going to write about the 'subject' and why it's almost verboten among some circles to even discuss, but I think anyone reading either now or in the future will already know this; the 'subject' is often too heavy to even mention by name, or by its more well-known proponents of discussion. We know what it is, and it concerns a message that no-one really wants to hear. I understand that, which is why my heart grows heavy at times like this, because I know the anguish that comes with a due consideration of possible near-future events. For some, they've relegated it to a meteorological event, and are content to leave it there. At least they're dealing with the idea of at least minimal preparation. Then for others, the mere possibility can be so unsettling and disturbing that they find themselves leaning too much for reassurance on others, even demanding it, while at the same time insisting it couldn't possibly be so. "Can't be! It's utter nonsense!"

I remember what that was like when I first came to grips with what the 'subject' was all about. I knew then, too, that talking about the 'subject' would become too sensitive to do much of. In the 'real world', I don't volunteer the 'subject' unless an opportunity practically demands it. If the response is a reaction against even awareness, I'm almost relieved not to have to say anything more. But that doesn't mean I don't do what I can to help others at least prepare. The greatest possible impediment will be ignorance of the possibilities and opportunities that might present themselves, and I often think of the many people who, once they become acutely aware, would look at me with accusatory eyes that would be saying "you knew, and did nothing?!?!?". I'm in a unique situation in that I came to the 'subject' quite outside of the oft-maligned culprit here. Which leads me to often remind myself of

a few things, which will all have to wait until later for me to finish this post.