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Alex Jones was talking about these two bills the other day.

A rider (attached bill to reset of the main bill) will in essence mandate that CPS (Child Protective Services) inspect the houses of parents that have a new born child!!!

In essence, before parents can take their new born child home from the hospital. CPS must have APPROVED their home before the child can be taken home from the hospital or given over to the parents!!!

Insane laugh..

This is what our world is coming to TOTAL BIG BROTHER, TOTAL ORWELL. An the Sheeples accept it without out word!.


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U.S. government: We know parenting better than you
Proposals would give Washington unprecedented control over kids


Posted: July 24, 2008
12:00 am Eastern
By Chelsea Schilling
© 2008 WorldNetDaily
The U.S. House of Representatives is scheduled to debate two bills that could give the federal government unprecedented control over the way parents raise their children – even providing funds for state workers to come into homes and screen babies for emotional and developmental problems.
The Pre-K Act (HR 3289) and the Education Begins at Home Act (HR 2343) are two bills geared toward military and families who fall below state poverty lines. The measures are said to be a way to prevent child abuse, close the achievement gap in education between poor and minority infants versus middle-class children and evaluate babies younger than 5 for medical conditions.
'Education Begins at Home Act' – HR 2343
HR 2343 is sponsored by Rep. Danny Davis, D-Ill., and cosponsored by 55 Democrats and 11 Republicans. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that implementing the Education Begins at Home Act would cost taxpayers $190 million for state home visiting plus "such sums as may be necessary" for in-hospital parent education.
While the bill may appear to be well-intentioned, Pediatrician Karen Effrem told WND government provisions in HR 2343 to evaluate children for developmental problems go too far.
"The federal definition of developmental screening for special education also includes what they call socioemotional screening, which is mental health screening," Effrem said. "Mental health screening is very subjective no matter what age you do it. Obviously it is incredibly subjective when we are talking about very young children."
While the program may not be mandatory for low-income and military families, there is no wording in the Education Begins at Home Act requiring parental permission for treatment or ongoing care once the family is enrolled – a point that leads some to ask where parental rights end and the government takes over. Also, critics ask how agents of the government plan to acquire private medical and financial records to offer the home visiting program.
"There's no consent mentioned in the bill for any kind of screening – medical, health or developmental," Effrem said. "There are privacy concerns because when home visitors come into the home they assess everything about the family: Their financial situation, social situation, parenting practices, everything. All of that is put into a database."
Effrem said it does not specify whether parents are allowed to decline evaluations, drugs or treatment for their children once they are diagnosed with developmental or medical conditions.
"How free is someone who has been tagged as needing this program in the case of home visiting – like a military family or a poor family?" she asked. "How free are they to refuse? Even their refusal will be documented somewhere. There are plenty of instances where families have felt they can't refuse because they would lose benefits, be accused of not being good parents or potentially have their children taken away."
When WND asked Effrem how long state-diagnosed conditions would remain in a child's permanent medical history, she responded:
"Forever. As far as I know, there isn't any statute of limitations. The child's record follows them through school and potentially college, employment and military service."
Effrem said conflicts could also arise when parents do not agree with parenting standards of government home visitors.
"Who decides how cultural tolerance is going to be manifested?" she asked. "There's some blather in the language of the bill about having cultural awareness of the differences in parenting practices, but it seems like that never applies to Christian parents."
'Providing Resources Early for Kids'
The Pre-K Act, or HR 3289, is sponsored by Rep. Mazie Hirono, D-Hawaii, and cosponsored by 116 Democrats and Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-Fla. Estimated to cost $500 million for each of fiscal years 2008 through 2013, the bill provides funds for state-approved education. Government workers would reach mothers and fathers in the hospital after a baby has been delivered to promote Pre-K programs.
"They give them information about Child Care Resource and Referral Network so they can get the child into a preschool or daycare that follows the state standards and get the mom working as quickly as possible," she said. "It's always that sort of thing: It's a list of resources, it's intruding on parental autonomy and authority and it's not necessarily accurate or welcome information."
While parents may choose to be involved in preschool programs, Effrem said the Pre-K Act poses similar concerns about government trumping parents' rights.
"Once they are involved, they don't have any say over curriculum," she said. "There's plenty of evidence of preschool curriculum that deals with issues that have nothing to do with a child's academic development – like gender, gender identity, careers, environmentalism, multiculturalism, feminism and all of that – things that don't amount to a hill of beans as far as a child learning how to read."
Effrem said the Pre-K Act extends a "really messed-up K-12 system" to include even younger, more vulnerable children.
"This is an expansion of the federal government into education when there really is no constitutional provision for it to do so."
Note: Concerned individuals may contact their representatives and senators.






Just another example of how this Federal Government's arrogance thinks they know more than the people and parents!!!!! Everything they get involved with they just make a worse mess out of things. Butt out big brother and mind your own affairs and you will have enough of a job in just that and abide by the Constitution as you are supposed to be doing.



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ALIEN INTERVIEW
Based On Personal Notes and Interview Transcriptions Provided by :
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Editing and Supplemental Footnotes by:
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Alien Interview
Copyright (c) 2008 by Lawrence R. Spencer.
All Rights Reserved.
Cover and book design by Lawrence R. Spencer
Printed in The United States of America
First Edition Printing: 2008
ISBN: 978-0-6152-0460-4

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Uncle John here: Yet another highly detained and well orchestrated disinfo effort by the ET's.

I've lost count how many of these I've experienced. Must be over a hundred by now.

The shear volume of these reports makes it almost impossible to give credibility to d&m&thug's stories or Dondep insiders + NL's planet X story.


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ETM's:

We're taking a vote in the OSR, as to whether we make DDPXMYHAIRISONFIREWE'REALLGONNAPERISHINACATASTROPHEEVERYNEXTWEEK go bye-bye tonight, or let the reverse April Fool's joke continue without "discovery" ;D for a little while longer?

Let us know.

Dan

Marci: bye-bye

Dan: who cares? ;D

Mongraal: "yayaya boohoo bye bye"

Caspa: "byebye" ;D

Owl: "Dan, you said you had to wait for at least 115 days in honor of the April Fool's joke and element 115, so we're here, bye bye!"

Stan: "Cruel ;D but I'm okay and you're okay."

Rob: "Snore."

Ann: she's laughing so hard she can't stand up at the moment. Honest (She still can't breathe! ;D )

Marcus: goodbye

CHEEZY: "MEOW MEOW MEOW PPWTTHHHHHHWAP! BYE!"

TIGER: BARKLAUGH

NIDDY RU: Nibby has cast his ballot in the litter box.

KEEPER: WANTS TO COOK HIM.

SQUIRREL: ;D



EDIT: I have been advised by Marcia that Cheezy, Tiger, and Nibby Ru wishes to have their vote too, so they can add to the "pickles" ;D he's in.
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DD PX MY HAIR IS ON FIRE WE'RE ALL GONNA PERISH IN A CATASTROPHE EVERY NEXT WEEK


What is the sanctimonious ass talking about now? He and Marcia, not to mention Ann, lied about me "pestering them" about "Planet X" while we were staying with Marci, which is a critical lie that should inform the reader just how evil their hearts are. In actuality, he not only lied by omission, he lied by "co-mission" by telling me on the phone while we were still in Canada that he would tell me not only x but y and z "when we are face to face". He did NOTHING OF THE KIND. He and Marci took me to that UNLV room for a "meeting" but produced nothing other than a few cheaply xeroxed and blank map outlines, saying nothing I hadn't already heard, and insisted on taping the 'event'. Why bother? We might as well have stayed in their apartment and discussed the bullshit.

Shady, you are right, and so was I; it is the height of hypocrisy to make such a public show of "see how good I am!", while not only bamboozling the public, but taking pleasure in it. I trust a cherubim or seraphim will be there with a horse-whip when he's ready to cross over.

Sheesh....what liars and assassins they turned out to be.

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The situation is getting worse...


http://wiredispatch.com/news/?id=266738

Iran ends cooperation with UN nuclear arms probe

Iran indicates end of cooperation with UN probe for secret nuclear weapons programs

GEORGE JAHN
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Jul 24, 2008 16:16 EST

Iran signaled Thursday that it will no longer cooperate with U.N. experts probing for signs of clandestine nuclear weapons work, confirming the investigation is at a dead end a year after it began.


The announcement from Iranian Vice President Gholam Reza Aghazadeh compounded skepticism about denting Tehran's nuclear defiance, just five days after Tehran stonewalled demands from six world powers that it halt activities capable of producing the fissile core of warheads.

Besides demanding a suspension of uranium enrichment — a process that can create both fuel for nuclear reactors and payloads for atomic bombs — the six powers have been pressing Tehran to cooperate with the International Atomic Energy Agency's probe.

Iran, which is obligated as a signer of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty not to develop nuclear arms, raised suspicions about its intentions when it admitted in 2002 that it had run a secret nuclear program for nearly two decades in violation of its commitment.

The Tehran regime insists it halted such work and is now only trying to produce fuel for nuclear reactors to generate electricity. It agreed on a "work plan" with the Vienna-based IAEA a year ago for U.N. inspectors to look into allegations Iran is still doing weapons work.

At the time, IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei hailed it as "a significant step forward" that would fill in the missing pieces of Tehran's nuclear jigsaw puzzle — if honored by Iran. He brushed aside suggestions Iran was using the deal as a smoke screen to deflect attention from its continued defiance of a U.N. Security Council demand for a halt to uranium enrichment.

The investigation ran into trouble just months after being launched. Deadline after deadline was extended because of Iranian foot-dragging. The probe, originally meant to be completed late last year, spilled into the first months of 2008, and beyond.

Iran remains defiant. It dismisses as fabricated the evidence supplied by the U.S. and other members of the IAEA's governing board purportedly backing allegations that Iranians continue to work on nuclear weapons.

Officials say that among the evidence given to the IAEA are what seem to be Iranian draft plans to refit missiles with nuclear warheads; explosives tests that could be used to develop a nuclear detonator; and a drawing showing how to mold uranium metal into the shape of warheads. There are also questions about links between Iran's military and civilian nuclear facilities.

On Thursday, Aghazadeh appeared to signal that his country was no longer prepared even to discuss the issue with the IAEA.

Investigating such allegations "is outside the domain of the agency," he said after meeting with ElBaradei. Any further queries on the issue "will be dealt with in another way," he said, without going into detail.

Britain, one of those suspicious of Iran's nuclear activities, was critical.

"We are concerned by reports that Iran is refusing to cooperate with the IAEA on allegations over nuclear weapons," the British Foreign Office said in a statement. "The IAEA has raised serious concerns over Iran's activities with a possible military dimension. If Iran is serious about restoring international confidence in its intentions, it must address these issues."

The IAEA asked in vain for explanations from Iran, and its last report in May said Iran might be withholding information on whether it tried to make nuclear arms. Reflecting ElBaradei's frustration, the report used language described by one senior U.N. official as unique in its direct criticism of Tehran.

Aghazadeh's comments Thursday appeared to jibe with those of diplomats familiar with the probe who told The Associated Press that the IAEA had run into a dead end.

A senior diplomat on Thursday attributed Tehran's intransigence in part to anger over a multimedia presentation by IAEA Deputy Director-General Olli Heinonen to the agency's 35 board members based on intelligence about the alleged weapons work. The diplomat, like others, agreed to discuss the matter only if not quoted by name because his information was confidential.

Tehran dismisses the suspicions of the U.S. and allies, and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Wednesday again vowed that his country would not "retreat one iota" from pursuing uranium enrichment.

On Saturday, a U.S. diplomat had participated in talks with Iran held in Geneva, raising expectations that a compromise might be reached under which Iran would agree to temporarily stop expansion of enrichment activities. In exchange, the six world powers — the U.S., Germany, Britain, France, Russia and China — would hold off on adopting new U.N. sanctions against Iran.

But participants at Geneva said Iranian negotiators skirted the freeze issue despite the presence of U.S. Undersecretary of State William Burns.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Monday accused Iran of not being serious at the Geneva talks. She warned that all six nations were serious about a two-week deadline for Iran to agree to freeze suspect activities and start negotiations or else be hit with a fourth set of U.N. penalties.

Aghazadeh, who is also head of Iran's atomic agency, played down the international complaints, but he also evaded a direct answer on whether Tehran would give any ground on an enrichment freeze.

"Both sides are carefully studying the concerns and expectations of both sides," he told reporters.

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The paradox is, that the 2 powers that already have, (and have used nuclear bombs - US), threatens another souverign nation not to pursue it.

So with a nuclear arsenal, Iran would suddenly become an agressor??? - Since when did they initiate a war??? - And just HOW relevant is nuclear technology today anyway? - One would presume that the advancements in new weapon technogies today, far exceed the devastation of any nuclear technologies.

Now the signal is given, now it's not a matter of *if* but rather *when* the "odd couple" gets going.


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Don don't it get to you.

I told the Golden Thread long long ago on Godlikeproductions what Dan and Marci really are.

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They have to be if they are in Majestic Twelve! They don't let decient humanbeings into such star chamber board rooms. Or that world of Black Ops!

Dan and Marci are following the standard operational pre-cedures in classic classic Psy-ops. Where ever they go, whom ever they come into contact with they "destory."

Look at Bill Hamilton once a respect ufo investigator now a laughing stock of field.

You and Toni got involved you have had your lives destoried.

Now they are working on Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy by the time they are done with them, Kerry will be scribbling toe paintings on the walls of her padded cell mummbing J-Rod, J-Rod.. as shes in restraints.

THIS IS ALL A PSY-OP's GAMES.

Marci and Dan didn't present their own research at Cal-Tech, They were just the front show room dumbies given a non important piece of research but still sounds legit to parrot at Cal-Tech to continue the GAME the bigger objective. Burisch's very own spouser at Cal-Tech (the faculity member that sponsered them) was and is hard core Military Industrial Complex. (DARPA) , remember how Danny swore he'd never work with the military industrial complex. well he did and does.

Get the picture guy?

Marci and Dan are NOTHING MORE then the Sheep skin, NOTHING MORE

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Another example of how these people have very twisted morals and charaters.

July 7th Not even a week after Mongraal and Caspa returned from their supposed honeymoon. Since the original posting he's gone back and changed the word "Strippers" to "Dancing Girls."



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YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYA!!!!!!! I CAN SEEEEEEEEE IT NOW!!!!!!

POOOOOOOOR OOOOOOOOLD OWWWWWLY-OWLY HAS TO TOTE ALL THAT WEIGHT UP TO THE SPOT WHERE DAN-DAN AND ME ARE, THERE WE'LL BE WITH THE KEGS AND DANCING GIRLS!!!!!!!!!! YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYA!!!!!!!!

HERE'S THE SCENE AT THE MOUNTAIN SCIENCE STATION IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT!!!!!!!! YAYAYAYAYAYA!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqoFz_haT3M

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http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m60/ ... ONGPAD.jpg

Shady adds note what the pic states "Mongraal's Apartment 10, Minutes Ago." which infers he lives alone. and is un married.

YOOOOOOOOOO CARRRRRRRY ALLLLLLLL THAT STUFF UP, WHILE I AM WAITING AT THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN FOR YOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYA!!!!!!!!

THEN I GIVE YOOOOOOOO MY NOD OF APPROVAL TO THIS MUSIC!!!!!!!!! (JUST CHANGE THE LINE TO "KING MUTT")

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-l7TB0bq0

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YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYA!!!!!!! I'M WRITING IT ALL DOWN FOR MY TURN WITH MR. DEMILLE!!!!!!! YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYA!!!!!



YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYA!!!!!!

ONE DAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!!

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YAAAAAAAAAAAA, ONE DAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!

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Now it could be argued that its just 'guy's humor'.

Well Guys tell me what would happen if you brought up the word "stripper" or going to get strippers and booze for 'boys night out.' in front of your Spouse or Significant other? Chances are your going to catch some hell for it and MOST married or committed guys know this as instict so usually such words are avoided around female companion. Right? Right.

Now here is Mongraal supposed married for just a month inviting Owl over for a night of Strippers and Keggers at HIS Apartment.

Not married even over a month and he's basically calling his friend over for 'Boys night out." with broads and booze!

Even if were some joke on his part and assuming Mongraal is married to Caspa. The man is an other and total pig to post such as he did. Principle Wise he has just insulted and degraded his new bride totally in public like a slap across the face.


Just an observation..



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(Note: After awhile they're observing how impressed I became with the little aliens and the alien human appearing team members ability to transpose themselves through walls and drop down through ceilings above, down to lower apartments and out through walls and fences for their getta way, at least that was the fun part for them allowing me to think that. They managed to find a way for me to experience their little form, you know, getting to know more about it first hand. The experience has been described at my website. A most highly energized body. Pure inner continuous joy. No material feeling from the neck down, more simply, it felt like it was made of pure energy.

Of hardly any weight, I could move at an incredible speed, probably more like a blurring to the eyes speed, and I was amazed of having control not crashing into things. Anyway, the point I want to share is regardless of the validly of this story, the description of the little aliens body is exactly how I would understand the little body I was in. For real. This is a first for reading anything as close to describing what I experienced during an abduction. These guys are happy, unlike anything we get to know while occupying these bodies. Amazing...What a level of differences. Now what em I to think about this stories content? I have to read the rest of it. Hmm...Dex)

The Letter from Mrs. MacElroy

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August 12, 2007

Dear Lawrence,

I am typing this letter to you on my old Underwood typewriter that I bought after I was discharged from the Army. Somehow it seems like a fitting contrast to the subject of this letter and the documents you will find enclosed in this envelope.

The last time I spoke to you was about eight years ago. During your brief telephone interview with me you asked me to assist you with the research for "The Oz Factors" book you were writing because you suspected that I might know something that would help your investigation into the possibility that extraterrestrial beings may have influenced the history of Earth. When we spoke, I told you that I did not have any information that I could share with you about anything.

Since then I have read your book and found it very interesting and compelling. You are obviously a man who has done his homework, and who could understand my own experiences. I've been thinking a lot about your allusion to the old philosopher whom you paraphrased in our phone conversation: "with great power, comes great responsibility". Although I don't think power is pertinent in my life or to my reasons for sending you the enclosed documents, you certainly did get me thinking about my responsibility.

I have reconsidered my position, for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is my realization that you were right. I do have a responsibility to myself, at least. I can not possibly tell you the personal Hell

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(Footnote) of ethical irresolution and spiritual ambivalence I have endured since 1947. I do not want to keep playing the game of "maybe I should have, or maybe I shouldn't have", through the rest of Eternity!



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Many men have been killed to extinguish the possibility of revealing the knowledge I have helped to withhold from society, until now. Only a small handful of people on Earth have seen and heard what I have had the burden of keeping secret for sixty years. All those years I thought that I had been entrusted with a great deal of confidence by the "powers that be" in our government, although I have often felt that power is greatly misguided, to "protect" Mankind from the certain knowledge that, not only do intelligent extraterrestrial life forms exist, but that they have and continue to aggressively monitor and invade the lives of everyone on Earth every day.

Therefore, I think the time has come to pass along my secret knowledge to someone I think will understand it. I don't think it would be responsible of me to take the knowledge I have into the silent afterlife, beyond reach or recognition. I think there is a greater good to be served than protecting the "vested interests" for whom this information is considered a matter of "national security", whatever that means, and is therefore justification for making it "TOP SECRET".

6 (Footnote)

Also, I am now 83 years old. I have decided to leave this body, which has outlasted it's usefulness to me, using a painless method of self-administered euthanasia.

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(Footnote) I have a very few months to live, and nothing to fear or lose.

So, I have moved away from Montana, where my husband and I lived for most of my life, to spend our remaining days in a lovely rented upstairs bedroom in a house in the homeland of my husband's family in County Meath, Ireland.

8 (Footnote)

I will die not far from "The Great Mound" at Knowth 9 (Footnote),and Dowth, the "Fairy Mound of Darkness". These are sacred "cairns" or massive stone structures that were erected about 3,700 BCE and engraved with indecipherable hieroglyphs -- about the same time as pyramids and other inexplicable stone monuments were being built all over the Earth.

I am also not far from "The Hill of Tara",

10 (Footnote) that was once the ancient seat of power in Ireland where 142 kings are said to have reigned in prehistoric and



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historic times. In ancient Irish religion and mythology this was the sacred place of dwelling for the "gods" and was the entrance to the "other world".

Saint Patrick came to Tara to conquer the ancient religion of the pagans. He may have suppressed the religious practices in the area, but he certainly did not have any impact on the "gods" who brought these civilizations to Earth, as you will discover when you read the documents enclosed. Therefore, this is a fitting location for my departure from this unholy world and final release from the burdens of this life.

The crystal clear perspective of hindsight has revealed a higher purpose to me: assisting the survival of the planet, all living beings and life forms in our galaxy!

The status quo of our government establishment has been to "protect the people" from knowledge of such matters. In fact, the only protection afforded by ignorance and secrecy is to hide the private agenda of those in power to enslave others. And, by doing so, to disarm every perceived enemy, and ally, through superstition and stupidity.

Therefore, I have enclosed the original and only existing copies of my personal notes and reflections on a matter which I have kept hidden from everyone, even my own family. I have also enclosed my copies of typed transcripts created by the stenographer who transcribed all of my interviews with the alien saucer pilot after each interview was finished. I do not have any copies of the tape recordings that were made of my interview reports. No one, until now, knows that I was able to secretly retain copies of the official interview transcripts.

Now I am entrusting these documents to your discretion to impart to the world in any form or manner you see fit. My only request is that you do so in a way that will not threaten your own life or well being, if possible. If you were to incorporate these notes of my experiences into a work of fiction, such as a novel, the factual nature of the material could be easily dismissed or discredited by any agency for whom "national security" is used as a personal shield against scrutiny and justice.



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In so doing, you could "disavow any knowledge" of their true origin, and claim that it is a fictitious work of your imagination. Whoever said that "truth is stranger than fiction" was "right as rain". For most people all of this will be "unbelievable". Unfortunately, beliefs are not a reliable criteria for reality.

Also, I am sure that if you were to show these notes to anyone that would prefer physical, economic or spiritual slavery over freedom, the subject matter contained in them would seem quite objectionable. If you attempted to published the documents as a matter of factual reporting in a newspaper or on the evening TV news they would be rejected out of hand as the work of a kook. The very nature of these documents make them unbelievable, and therefore discreditable. Conversely, the release of this information is potentially catastrophic for certain political, religious and economic vested interests.

These documents contain information which is quite relevant to your interest and investigations into alien encounters and paranormal experience. To use your analogy in "The Oz Factors" book, I can honestly say that the few factual reports that have been made by others about "alien" influences are only a gentle breeze in the eye of an Apocalyptic Hurricane swirling around Earth. There really are wizards and wicked witches and flying monkeys in this universe!

This information, which has been suspected and/or speculated upon by so many for so long, has been constantly denied by mainstream media, academia, and the Military-Industrial Complex

11 (Footnote) that President Eisenhower warned us about in his farewell address.

As you known in July,1947,the Roswell Army Air Field (RAAF)

12 (Footnote) issued a press release stating that personnel from the field's 509th Bomb Group had recovered a crashed "flying disc" from a ranch near Roswell, New Mexico, sparking intense media interest.

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Later the same day, the Commanding General of the Eighth Air Force

14 (Footnote) stated that Major Jesse Marcel, who was involved with the original recovery of the debris, had recovered only the tattered remnants of a weather



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balloon. The true facts of the incident have been suppressed by the United States government since then.

You may not know that I was enlisted in the U.S. Women's Army Air Force(WAC)

15 (Footnote) Medical Corp which was a part of the US Army back then. I was assigned to the 509th Bomb Group as a Flight Nurse

16 (Footnote )at the time of the incident.

When the news that there had been a crash was received at the base, I was asked to accompany Mr. Cavitt, the Counter Intelligence Officer,

17 (Footnote) to the crash site as the driver of his vehicle, and to render any needed emergency medical assistance to any survivors, if necessary.

18 (Footnote) Therefore, I briefly witnessed the wreckage of an alien space craft, as well as the remains of the several alien personnel aboard the craft who were already dead.

When we arrived I learned that one of the personnel on board the craft had survived the crash, and was conscious, and apparently uninjured. The conscious alien was similar in appearance, but not the same as, the others.

19 (Footnote)

None of the other personnel present could communicate with the survivor, as the being did not communicate verbally or by any recognizable signs. However, while I examined the "patient" for injuries I immediately detected and understood that the alien being was attempting to communicate with me by "mental images", or "telepathic thought",

20 (Footnote ) which projected directly from the mind of the being.

I immediately reported this phenomenon to Mr. Cavitt. As no other person present could perceive these thoughts, and the alien seemed able and willing to communicate with me, it was decided, after a brief consultation with a senior officer, that I would accompany the surviving alien back to the base.

This was partly due to the fact that I was a nurse, and could attend to the physical needs of the alien, as well as serve as a non-threatening communicator and companion. After all, I was the only woman at the site and the only one who was not armed. I was thereafter assigned permanently to serve as a "companion" of the alien at all times.

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My duty was to communicate with and interview the alien and to make a complete report of all that I discovered to command authorities. Subsequently, I was supplied with specific lists of questions provided to me by military and non-military personnel, which I was to "interpret" for the alien, and record the responses to the questions provided.

I also accompanied the alien at all times during medical testing and the many other examinations to which the alien was subjected by staff from numerous government agencies.

I was given a promotion in rank to Senior Master Sergeant to improve my security rating, and to increase my pay grade from $54.00 a month to $138.00 a month, for this very unusual assignment. I performed these duties from July 7th through August,1947,at which time the alien "died" or departed the "body", as you will read about in my notes.

Although I was never left entirely alone with the alien, as there were always military personnel, intelligence agency people and a variety of other officials present from time to time, I did have uninterrupted access to and communication with the alien being for nearly six weeks.

Hereinafter is an overview and summary of my personal recollections of "conversations" with the alien craft pilot, whom I came to know by the identity of "Airl".

I feel that it is my duty at this time, in the best interest of the citizens of Earth, to reveal what I have learned from my interaction with "Airl" during those six weeks, on the anniversary of her "death" or departure sixty years ago.

Although I served as a nurse in the Army Air Force, I am not a pilot or technician. Further, I did not have any direct contact with the space craft or other materials recovered from the crash site at that time, or thereafter. To that degree it must be taken into consideration that my understanding of the communications I had with " Airl" are based on my own subjective ability to interpret the meaning of the thoughts and mental images I was able to perceive.



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Our communication did not consist of "spoken language", in the conventional sense. Indeed, the "body" of the alien had no "mouth" through which to speak. Our communication was by telepathy. At first, I could not understand Airl very clearly. I could perceive images, emotions and impressions, but it was difficult for me to express these verbally. Once Airl learned the English language, she was able to focus her thoughts more precisely using symbols and meanings of words I could understand. Learning the English language was done as a favor to me. It was more for my own benefit than hers.

By the end of our interview sessions, and increasingly since then, I have become more comfortable with telepathic communication. I have become more adept at understanding Airl's thoughts as though they are my own. Somehow, her thoughts become my thoughts. Her emotions are my emotions. However, this is limited by her willingness and intention to share her own, personal universe with me. She is able to be selective about what communication I am allowed to receive from her. Likewise, her experience, training, education, relationships and purposes are uniquely her own.

This is the symbol of "The Domain"

The Domain is a race or civilization of which Airl, the alien I interviewed, is an officer, pilot and engineer serving in The Domain Expeditionary Force. The symbol represents the origin and unlimited boundary of the known universe, united and integrated into a vast civilization under the control of The Domain.

Airl is currently stationed at a base in the asteroid belt which she refers as a "space station" in the solar system of Earth. First and foremost, Airl is herself. Secondarily, she voluntarily serves as an Officer, Pilot and Engineer in The Domain Expeditionary Force. In that capacity she has duties and responsibilities, but she is at leave to come and go as she pleases also.

Please accept this material and make it known to as many people as possible. I repeat that it is not my intention to endanger your life with the possession of this material, nor do I really expect you to believe any

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of it either. However, I do sense that you can appreciate the value that such knowledge may have to those who are willing and able to face the reality of it.

Mankind needs to know the answers to questions which are contained in these documents. Who are we? Where did we come from? What is our purpose on Earth? Is Mankind alone in the universe? If there is intelligent life elsewhere why have they not contacted us?

It is vital that people understand the devastating consequences to our spiritual and physical survival if we fail to take effective action to undo the long- standing and pervasive effects of alien intervention on Earth.

Perhaps the information in these documents will serve as a stepping stone to a better future for Mankind. I hope that you can be more clever, creative and courageous in the distribution of this information than I have been.

May The Gods Bless You and Keep You.

Mrs. Matilda O'Donnell MacElroy Senior Master Sergeant Women's Army Air Force Medical Corp, Retired 100 Troytown Heights Navan, Meath Co. Meath, Ireland



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Chapter One

My First Interview With The Alien

(MATILDA O'DONNELL MACELROY PERSONAL NOTE)

"By the time the alien had been returned to the base I had already spent several hours

with her. As I mentioned, Mr. Cavitt told me to stay with the alien, since I was the

only person among us who could understand her communication. I could not

understand my ability to "communicate" with the being. I had never before that time

experienced telepathic communication with anyone.

The non-verbal communication I experienced was like the understanding you might

have when a child or a dog is trying to get you to understand something, but much,

much more direct and powerful! Even though there were no "words" spoken, or

signs made, the intention of the thoughts were unmistakable to me. I realized later

that, although I received the thought, I did not necessarily interpret it's meaning

exactly.

I think that the alien being was not willing to discuss technical matters, due to the

nature of her position as an officer and pilot with the duty to maintain the security

and confidentiality required by her own "unit" or organization. Any soldier who is

captured by the "enemy" in the line of duty has a responsibility to withhold vital

information, even in the face of interrogation or torture, of course.

But, in spite of that, I have always felt that the alien being was not really trying to

hide anything from me. I just never got that feeling. Her communication always

seemed honest and sincere to me. But, I suppose you can never know for sure. I

definitely feel that I shared a unique "bond" with the alien. It was a kind of "trust" or

empathy that you have with a patient, or a child. I think this is because the alien

could understand that I was really interested in "her" and had no harmful intention,

nor would I allow any harm to come to her, if I could prevent it. This was true too.

I refer to the alien as "her". Actually, the being was not sexual in any way, either

physiologically or psychologically. "She" did have a rather strong, feminine

presence and demeanor. However, in terms of physiology, the being was "asexual"

and had no internal or external reproductive organs. Her body was more like the

body of a "doll" or "robot". There were no internal "organs", as the body was not

constructed of biological cells. It did have a kind of "circuit" system or electrical

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nervous system that ran throughout the body, but I could not understand how it

worked.

In stature and appearance the body was quite short and petite. About a 40 inches tall.

The head was disproportionately large, relative to arms, legs and torso, which where

thin. There were three "fingers" on each of two" hands" and "feet" which were

somewhat prehensile. 22 (Footnote) The head had no operational "nose" or "mouth"

or "ears". I understood that a space officer does not need these as space has no

atmosphere to conduct sound. Therefore, sound related sensory organs are not built

into the body. Nor does the body need to consume food, hence, the absence of a

mouth.

The eyes were quite large. I was never able to determine the exact degree of visual

acuity of which the eyes were capable, but I observed that her sense of sight must

have been extremely acute. I think the lenses of the eyes, which were very dark and

opaque, may also have been able to detect waves or particles beyond the visual

spectrum of light. 23 (Footnote) I suspect that this may have included the full range

of the electromagnetic spectrum, 24 (Footnote) or more, but I do not know this for

sure.

When the being looked at me her gaze seemed to penetrate right through me, as

though she had "x-ray vision". 25 (Footnote) I found this a little embarrassing, at first,

until I realized that she had no sexual intentions. In fact, I don't think she ever even

had the thought that I was male or female.

It become very obvious after a short time with the being that her body did not require

oxygen, food or water or any other external source of nutrition or energy. As I

learned later, this being supplied her own "energy", which animated and operated the

body. It seemed a little bit eerie at first, but I got used to the idea. It's really a very,

very simple body. There is not much to it, compared to our own bodies.

Airl explained to me that it was not mechanical, like a robot, nor was it biological. It

is animated directly by her as a spiritual being. Technically, from a medical

standpoint, I would say that Airl's body could not even be called "alive". Her "doll"

body is not a biological life form, 26 (Footnote) with cells, and so forth.

It had a smooth skin, or covering which was gray in color. The body was highly

tolerant to changes in temperature, atmospheric conditions, and pressure. The limbs

were quite frail, without musculature. In space there is no gravity, 27 (Footnote) so

very little muscle strength is needed. The body was used almost entirely on space

craft or in low, or no-gravity environments. Since Earth has a heavy gravity, the

body was not able to walk around very well as the legs were not really suited to that

purpose. The feet and hands were quite flexible and agile however.

Over night, before my first interview with the alien, the area had been transformed

into a buzzing hive of activity. There were a dozen men working on setting up lights

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and camera equipment. A motion picture camera and microphone and a tape

recorder was there also set up in the "interview room". (I don't understand why a

microphone was needed, since there was no verbal communication possible with the

alien.) There was also a stenographer 28 (Footnote) and several people busily typing

on typewriters.

I was informed that an expert foreign language interpreter and a "code breaking"

team had been flown to the base during the night to assist with my efforts to

communicate with the alien. There were also several medical personnel --

specialists in various fields -- to examine the alien. And, a professor of psychology

was there to help formulate questions and "interpret" the answers. As I was just a

nurse, I was not considered to be a "qualified" interpreter, even though I was the only

one there who could understand anything the alien was thinking!

There were many subsequent conversations between us. Each "interview" resulted in

an exponential increase in understanding between us, as I will discuss later on in my

notes. This is the first transcript with the answers to a list of questions provided to

me by the intelligence officer at the base which I debriefed to the stenographer

immediately following the interview."

(OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT OF INTERVIEW)

TOP SECRET

Official Transcript of the U.S. Army Air Force Roswell Army Air Field, 509th Bomb Group SUBJECT: ALIEN INTERVIEW, 9. 7. 1947

"QUESTION - "Are you injured?"

ANSWER -

NO

QUESTION - "What medical assistance do you require?"

ANSWER -

NONE

QUESTION - "Do need food or water or other sustenance?"

ANSWER -

NO

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QUESTION - "Do you have any special environmental needs, such as air temperature, atmospheric chemical content, air pressure, or waste elimination?"

ANSWER -

NO. I AM NOT A BIOLOGICAL BEING.

QUESTION - "Does your body or space craft carry any germs or contamination that may be harmful to humans or other Earth life forms?"

ANSWER -

NO GERMS IN SPACE.

QUESTION - "Does your government know you are here?"

ANSWER -

NOT AT THIS TIME

QUESTION - "Are others of your kind going to come looking for you?"

ANSWER -

YES

QUESTION - "What is the weapons capability of your people?"

ANSWER -

VERY DESTRUCTIVE.

I did not understand the exact nature of the kind of arms or weapons that they might have, but I did not feel that there was any malevolent intention in her reply, just a statement of fact.

QUESTION - "Why did your space craft crash?"

ANSWER -

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IT WAS STRUCK BY AN ELECTRICAL DISCHARGE FROM THE ATMOSPHERE WHICH CAUSED US TO LOSE CONTROL.

QUESTION - "Why was your space craft in this area?"

ANSWER -

INVESTIGATION OF "BURNING CLOUDS" / RADIATION / EXPLOSIONS

29 (Footnote)

QUESTION - "How does your space craft fly?"

ANSWER -

IT IS CONTROLLED THROUGH "MIND". RESPONDS TO "THOUGHT COMMANDS".

"Mind" or "thought command" are the only English language words I can think of to describe the thought. Their bodies, and I think, the space craft, are connected directly to them through some kind of electrical "nervous system" that they control with their own thoughts.

QUESTION - "How do your people communicate with each other?"

ANSWER -

THROUGH MIND /THOUGHT.

The words "mind" and "thought" combined together are the closest English language words I can think of to describe the idea at this time. However, it was very obvious to me that they communicate directly from the mind, just as she is communicating with me.

QUESTION - "Do you have a written language or symbols for communication?"

ANSWER -

YES

QUESTION - "What planet are you from?"

ANSWER -

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THE HOME / BIRTHPLACE WORLD OF THE DOMAIN

Since I am not an astronomer, I have no way of thinking in terms of stars, galaxies, constellations and directions in space. The impression I received was of a planet in the center of a huge cluster of galaxies that is to her like "home", or "birthplace". The word "domain" is the closest word I can think of to describe her concept, images and thoughts about where she is from. It could as easily be called the "territory" or the "realm". However, I am sure that it was not just a planet or a solar system or a cluster of stars, but an enormous number of galaxies!

QUESTION - "Will your government send representatives to meet with our leaders?"

ANSWER -

NO

QUESTION - "What are your intentions concerning Earth?"

ANSWER -

PRESERVE / PROTECT PROPERTY OF THE DOMAIN

QUESTION - "What have you learned about Earth governments and military installations?"

ANSWER -

POOR / SMALL. DESTROY PLANET.

QUESTION - "Why haven't your people made your existence known to the people of Earth?"

ANSWER -

WATCH / OBSERVE. NO CONTACT.

I got the impression that contact with people on Earth was not permitted, but I could not think of a word or idea that communicated the impression I got exactly. They are just observing us.

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QUESTION - "Have your people visited Earth’s previously?"

ANSWER -

PERIODIC / REPEATING OBSERVATIONS.

QUESTION - "How long have you known about Earth?"

ANSWER -

LONG BEFORE HUMANS.

I am not sure if the word "prehistoric" would be more accurate, but it was definitely a very long period of time before human beings evolved.

QUESTION - "What do you know about the history of civilization on Earth?"

ANSWER -

SMALL INTEREST / ATTENTION. SMALL TIME.

The answer to this question seemed very vague to me. However, I perceived that her interest in Earth history is not very strong or that she did not pay much attention to it. Or, maybe, ... I don't know. I didn't really get an answer to the question.

QUESTION - "Can you describe your home world to us?"

ANSWER -

PLACE OF CIVILIZATION / CULTURE / HISTORY. LARGE PLANET. WEALTH / RESOURCES ALWAYS. ORDER. POWER. KNOWLEDGE / WISDOM. TWO STARS. THREE MOONS.

QUESTION - "What is the state of development of your civilization?"

ANSWER -

ANCIENT. TRILLIONS OF YEARS. ALWAYS. ABOVE ALL OTHERS. PLAN. SCHEDULE. PROGRESS. WIN. HIGH GOALS / IDEAS.

To be continued:



ALIEN INTERVIEW
Based On Personal Notes and Interview Transcriptions Provided by :
Matilda O'Donnell MacElroy
Editing and Supplemental Footnotes by:
Lawrence R. Spencer
( Author of "The Oz Factors" )

Alien Interview
Copyright (c) 2008 by Lawrence R. Spencer.
All Rights Reserved.
Cover and book design by Lawrence R. Spencer
Printed in The United States of America
First Edition Printing: 2008
ISBN: 978-0-6152-0460-4

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what is prompting the attack?

I suspect it is the Kerrang! interview.....

MSNBC just had their NASA correspondent on the phone, giving a live debunking spiel about how Mitchell may be "senile"...that NASA can't understand why the old astronaut is making these "unsubstantiated claims"



No one gives a darn about poor little Marci and her lame affidavit --
what little I heard of it was pretty damn funny.

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Mitchell's statement this morning on Victors Email List:

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E-mail message

From: XXXXX (Dr Edgar Mitchell)

Date: Fri, Jul 25, 2008, 2:45 a.m. (PDT+3)

To: VictorGM@webtv.net (Victor Martinez)

Subject: Apollo 14 astronaut claims aliens HAVE made contact -- but it
has been covered up for 60 years!

VICTOR:

A press source has twisted the story, and is has been fed around the
world on the news feeds. NASA has had NOTHING to do with my knowledge of
the UFD area. That is a reporter interpretation error.

– Dr Edgar Mitchell
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UFO BREAKING NEWS: APOLLO ASTRONAUT XIV Dr EDGAR MITCHELL CLAIMS ALIEN
CONTACT WITH EARTH FOR AT LEAST 6 DECADES NOW! / THE COMPLETE INTERVIEW
BY CLICKING HERE!

http://nhnecommunity.ning.com/video/vid ... ideo:21963

"THERE HAS BEEN VISITATION!" –
LiveLeak, Friday, July 25, 2008

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1fd_1216911065&p=1

Former NASA astronaut and moon-walker Dr Edgar Mitchell -- a veteran of
the Apollo 14 mission -- has stunningly claimed aliens exist. And he
says extra-terrestrials have visited Earth on several occasions -- but
the alien contact has been repeatedly covered up by governments for six
decades.

Dr Mitchell, 77, said during a radio interview that sources at the space
agency who had had contact with aliens described the beings as "little
people who look strange to us."

He said supposedly real-life ET's were similar to the traditional image
of a
small frame, large eyes and head.
Chillingly, he claimed our technology is "not nearly as sophisticated"
as theirs and
and "had they been hostile," he warned "we would be been gone by new."

UFOs and EXTRATERRESTRIALS RESOURCE PAGE:

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starryeyes wrote:
what is prompting the attack?

I suspect it is the Kerrang! interview.....

MSNBC just had their NASA correspondent on the phone, giving a live debunking spiel about how Mitchell may be "senile"...that NASA can't understand why the old astronaut is making these "unsubstantiated claims"



No one gives a darn about poor little Marci and her lame affidavit --
what little I heard of it was pretty damn funny.

poor little baby


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If they are trying to portray Mitchell as senile (which won't work) then he's just blow en the whole can of worms wide open with the mother of bombs.

They (the PTB's in charge of Cover Up) are scrambling to protect their butts now form a an official congressional or Senate investigation.


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Ps.. This is BIG Evidenced that Matt Drudge has been keeping the Mitchell Story Alive on his front page since it broke days ago. This is unheard of in Matt Drudges history!






starryeyes wrote:
what is prompting the attack?

I suspect it is the Kerrang! interview.....

MSNBC just had their NASA correspondent on the phone, giving a live debunking spiel about how Mitchell may be "senile"...that NASA can't understand why the old astronaut is making these "unsubstantiated claims"



No one gives a darn about poor little Marci and her lame affidavit --
what little I heard of it was pretty damn funny.

poor little baby


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Re: UFO DISCLOSURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #17 on Jul 23, 2008, 12:53am »
I don't presume to speculate as to why Edgar Mitchell has become so forth coming in this interview . . .

But I can attest that over the past several months, he and Shuttle Astronaut Clark McClelland have been following closely Robert Collins and his disclosure work surrounding his book "Exempt from Disclosure".

I know this as R. Collins forward many of these emails to me, it which they are cc'd. Mitchell has remained a relatively passive reader, while McClelland has weighed in from time to time. (And so too I)

During this time, Collins has become a little freer in disclosing certain information he has not readily shared in the past. Present on these email short lists (<20 recipients) has been a few high ranking Intelligence and Defense people (retired and current).

One of these (CoK-current) has recently praised Collins work and his book EfD. For those who understand the content of this book, such praise is virtually a nod of acceptance to the validity of certain content.

Considering who CoK is, and his high ranking international intelligence oversight responsibilities, it is reasonable to presume that CoK has given a nod for some people to speak out. Those on the short email list are certainly left to wonder, which includes Edgar Mitchell.

Food for thought.



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Hey Marci perhaps you shouldn't have signed those papers along with Dan.

If anything comes of this Mitchell thing and they start formal investigations. Its you and Dan they'll be coming for and of course you won't name names so ..


Just to let you know they don't allow lap dogs in the Pokey :-D


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I am viewing the threat about making me go "bye-bye" very seriously, and am considering the best channel to report this to. These are, after all, the people who have continually lied and misrepresented not only myself but others on this board, who have only wanted the full and unexpurgated truth, not the "half-truths" and veiled threats the "ex" MAJ thugs have offered.

They are also allegedly responsible for the deaths of several individuals who got a bit too close for comfort in determining just how much of the spew is based on factual circumstances and how much has been carefully manipulated to end up convincing the naive to come to false conclusions.

The truly sad part is that I was going to update the website with a fresh assessment that would have cast a more sympathetic light on matters, but apparently that's not supposed to happen. Ironically, someone(s) wants me to play this role of antagonist to Dan's protagonist, and every so often they have to engage in jeer n' sneer tactics to keep the 'edge' on.

Astute readers can conclude that anyone avoiding honest debate, and relying instead on ridicule, is guilty of dissembling at best. A short while ago the NBC NASA correspondent was practically calling Astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell (no need for an NDA for anyone to see HIS doctorates) "senile". This is part of a pattern, a well-worn technique of using character assassination of the messengers in order to denigrate their POV.

Knowing this, why do they continue to rely on jeers n' sneers?

BTW, the 'discovery' of huge stockpiles of plastic coffins around the US, numbering in the millions, coupled with the disclosure that the Feds are buying up most of the bulk quantities of foodstuffs, is a sure sign that the average person should make the minimal preparations I've always advocated. In addition to those news items, I've received confirmation of at least one bunker complex taking in massive quantities of supplies, again a sure sign that things are expected to get worse in critical areas before they go absolutely nightmarish.

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Dondep wrote:
I am viewing the threat about making me go "bye-bye" very seriously, and am considering the best channel to report this to. These are, after all, the people who have continually lied and misrepresented not only myself but others on this board, who have only wanted the full and unexpurgated truth, not the "half-truths" and veiled threats the "ex" MAJ thugs have offered.

They are also allegedly responsible for the deaths of several individuals who got a bit too close for comfort in determining just how much of the spew is based on factual circumstances and how much has been carefully manipulated to end up convincing the naive to come to false conclusions.

The truly sad part is that I was going to update the website with a fresh assessment that would have cast a more sympathetic light on matters, but apparently that's not supposed to happen. Ironically, someone(s) wants me to play this role of antagonist to Dan's protagonist, and every so often they have to engage in jeer n' sneer tactics to keep the 'edge' on.

Astute readers can conclude that anyone avoiding honest debate, and relying instead on ridicule, is guilty of dissembling at best. A short while ago the NBC NASA correspondent was practically calling Astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell (no need for an NDA for anyone to see HIS doctorates) "senile". This is part of a pattern, a well-worn technique of using character assassination of the messengers in order to denigrate their POV.

Knowing this, why do they continue to rely on jeers n' sneers?

BTW, the 'discovery' of huge stockpiles of plastic coffins around the US, numbering in the millions, coupled with the disclosure that the Feds are buying up most of the bulk quantities of foodstuffs, is a sure sign that the average person should make the minimal preparations I've always advocated. In addition to those news items, I've received confirmation of at least one bunker complex taking in massive quantities of supplies, again a sure sign that things are expected to get worse in critical areas before they go absolutely nightmarish.


Water..inundation is the great threat.
Have any wonder how hard it is to rescue?
I'm shown anti-grav is going to play an important role with these operations.
That's what I got this morning DonD.

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Some more of JakeReason on the Mitchell thing. Appearently he's on Victor's short list which includes Mitchell himself and "spooks" of Victor's list.

The second post is telling....

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Re: UFO DISCLOSURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #20 on Jul 23, 2008, 1:13am »

Jul 23, 2008, 1:02am, UFOreality wrote:

Jul 23, 2008, 12:40am, Nemo492 wrote:
They called someone from NASA

4 minutes


NASA is lying

C. McClelland has shared a few otherwise unwritten things about this during these emails (referenced above) over the last few months.

Certainly Edgar must have wondered why people were sharing these things via email (knowing they can be forwarded anywhere), while also cc'ing some who he knows have been responsible for cointel, misinfo and coverup.

I've been included on many of R. Collins emails for a couple years. But Edgar's inclusion has only been recent.


My observational conclusion would side with there being a recently sanctioned permission extended to Edgar Mitchell. Fear factor removed.



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Re: UFO DISCLOSURE! Apollo Astronaut Mitchell
« Reply #91 Yesterday at 6:57pm »
Retired Captain Robert Collins USAF, author of "Exempt from Disclosure", passed his comments to a few people today. He gave me permission to post it:



Yep, I think Ed Mitchell's opinion is worth a lot more than some squat NASA spokesman (opinions are not equal here). Ed mentioned that his sources have been telling him exactly what our sources have been saying.

He also said his sources were "angered" because of the government cover-up, but couldn't say anything because of their security oaths or maybe it's just sheer paranoia like I saw in Ernie Kellerstrass many times. At one point Ernie just freaked over those "burnt" Mj12 documents I got from Tim Cooper, I've never seen so much fear in anyone except Jerry Miller........Rmc


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It's clear to me at least that Mitchell's "disclosure" might have just BURST Dan Burisch's / Majestic Twelve Scripted Disclosure.. Bubble No wonder Danny and Marci P'Oed.

Starryeyes is RIGHT. The Limelight has now completely shifted off Burisch and McDowell possibly forever!

Mitchell's will cause alot of prying eyes looking into all nooks and cranes. Where as Majestic was a controlled and directed disclosure. With them in control.

Very interesting developments.


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Oh and worse off for Majestic and especially Marci and Burisch..

Collins Sources and Mitchell's are identical..


In essence Collins and Aviary (an those behind them) are now leading the Disclosure Drive Forward with Majestic left in the dust.


In short...

Factional Infighting and Change.

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Here you go Dan and Marci and Majestic Retirees and your J-Rodian Disclosure..


Here's a Song Just for YOU! Your fifteen minutes of fame are over ;)


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I wonder... having email corresponded with the infamous Aviary members in the past and found them predominately Democrat Liberal in their leanings

We know by way of Sned's most of their are right wing and Republican leaning.


Is this new "Disclosure" a sign of the coming shift change in Washington D.C or because of it?


Time will tell.

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This one is going into my Famous People I've met Scrapebook! :) :)

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RE: An Open Letter to Dr. Edgar Mitchell‏
From: Edgar Mitchell (Censored for His Privacy)
Sent: Fri 7/25/08 6:08 PM
To: Vortogon Saxon (vortogon@hotmail.com); Victor Martinez (victorgm@webtv.net)

Thank you;, gentlemen, for you thoughtfullness. It is appreciated. Edgar Mitchell.

-----Original Message-----
From: Vortogon Saxon [mailto:vortogon@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 3:13 PM
To: Victor Martinez
Subject: An Open Letter to Dr. Edgar Mitchell

Victor: If you may, please forward to this Dr.Mitchell and feel free to publish this on your email list. thank you.



Dr. Mitchell,

Sir one of my earliest memories as a human being is one of being a very young child sitting down and watching the television in very early 1970s. It was one of Apollo 14 live broadcasts of your mission sir of you and your colleagues on the moon surface.

That broadcast Sir which you were apart of inspired a life long interest in Space and Astronomy an a philosophical contemplation of other life in the universe besides life on Earth It indeed prepared me and my family for what was to come just three years later when my family were confronted with the UFO Phenomena itself head on.

Dr. Mitchell I’d like to thank you Sir for having the pioneering courage, strength and fortitude to go against the ‘Official Policy of Denial’ in regards to the UFO issue and for giving us the general public this past week, the Truth. Indeed Sir you have proven once again that you are made of the Right Stuff and deserve the title of American Hero.


An to those of you that still dance to drum beat of Denial and Cover Up in regards to UFO issue. Simply shame on you! For not only do you do a disservice to your country and kinsmen but to the entire human race and its future. An future history books will well record that fact.


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(Note: A little more info for those who may have problems accessing this material...BTW I've cross posted this from Golden Forum...Thanks John...Dex)



You and I were unable to communicate in your language because I, personally, have not been exposed to your language. However, now that I have scanned the books and material you provided me this data has been relayed to our space station in this region and processed by our communications officer through our computers. It has been translated into my own language and relayed back to me in a context that I can think with. I have also received additional information from the files stored in our computers about the English language and Domain records concerning Earth civilization."

"Now I am prepared to give you certain information that I feel will be of great value to you. I will tell you the truth. Although truth is relative to all other truth, I wish to share with you as honestly and accurately as possible, truth as I see it, within the boundaries of my integrity to myself, to my race and without violating my obligations to the organization I serve and have sworn to uphold and protect".

"OK", I thought. "Will you answer questions from the gallery now?"

"No. I will not answer questions. I will provide information to you that I think will be beneficial to the well-being of the immortal spiritual beings who comprise humanity, and that will foster the survival of all the myriad life forms and the environment of Earth, as it is a part of my mission to ensure the preservation of Earth.

"Personally, it is my conviction that all sentient beings are immortal spiritual beings. This includes human beings. For the sake of accuracy and simplicity I will use a made-up word: "IS-BE". Because the primary nature of an immortal being is that they live in a timeless state of "is", and the only reason for their existence is that they decide to "be".

No matter how lowly their station in a society, every IS-BE deserves the respect and treatment that I myself would like to receive from others. Each person on Earth continues to be an IS-BE whether they are aware of the fact or not."

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(MATILDA O'DONNELL MACELROY PERSONAL NOTE)

(I will never forget this conversation. Her tone was very matter-of-fact and

emotionless. However, for the first time, I sensed the presence of a warm and real

"personality" in Airl. Her reference to "immortal spiritual beings" struck me like a

flash of light in a dark room. I had never before considered that a human being

could be an immortal being.

I thought that status or power was reserved solely for The Father, The Son, and The

Holy Ghost. And, because I am a devout Catholic and subject to the word of The

Lord Jesus, and The Holy Father, I have never thought of a woman as an immortal

spiritual being either -- not even the Holy Mother Mary. Yet, when Airl thought

that thought, I became vividly aware for the very first time that she, personally, was

an immortal spiritual being, and so are we all!

Airl said that she sensed that I was confused about the idea. She said she would

demonstrate to me that I am also an immortal spiritual being. She said, "Be above

your body!" Immediately, I realized that I was "outside" of my body, looking down

from the ceiling at the top of my body's head! 54 (Footnote) I was also able to see the

room around me, including Airl's body sitting in the chair next to my own body.

After a moment, I realized the simple, but shocking, reality, that "I" am not a body.

In that moment a black veil lifted and for the first time in my life, and for a very long

time into the past, I realized that I am not "my soul", but that "I" am "me" -- a

spiritual being. This was an unexplainable epiphany, but one that fills me with a joy

and relief I cannot recall having experienced ever before. As for the "immortal" part,

I do not understand her meaning, as I have always been taught that I am not immortal

-- a spirit, perhaps -- but certainly not immortal!

After a moment -- I'm not sure how long -- Airl asked me if I had a better

understanding of the idea. Suddenly, I was back inside my body again, and said out

loud, "Yes! I see what you mean!".

I was so taken aback by the experience that I had to get up from my chair and walk

around the room for a few minutes. I made an excuse that I needed to get a drink of

water, and go to the restroom, which I did. In the restroom I looked at my "self" in

the mirror. I used the toilet, refreshed my make-up, and straightened my uniform.

After 10 or 15 minutes I felt more "normal" again and returned to the interview

room.

After that I felt as though I was no longer just an interpreter for Airl. I felt as though

I was a "kindred spirit". I felt like I was safe, at home, with a trusted friend or

family member, as close as any I have ever had. Airl sensed and understood my

confusion about the concept of "personal immortality". She began her first "lesson"

with me by explaining this to me."

52

(OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT OF INTERVIEW CONTINUED)

"Airl told me her reasons for coming to Earth and for being in the area of the 509th Bomber Squadron. She was sent by her superior officers to investigate the explosions of nuclear weapons which have been tested in New Mexico. Her superiors ordered her to gather information from the atmosphere that could be used to determine the extent of radiation and potential harm this might cause to the environment. During her mission, the space craft was struck by a lighting

55 (Footnote) , which caused her to lose control and crash.

The space craft is operated by IS-BEs who use "doll bodies" in much the same way that an actor wears a mask and costume. It is a like a mechanical tool through which to operate in the physical world. She, as well as all of the other IS-BEs of the officer class and their superiors, inhabit these "doll bodies" when they are on duty in space. When they are not on duty, they "leave" the body and operate, think, communicate, travel, and exist without the use of a body.

The bodies are constructed of synthetic materials, including a very sensitive electrical nervous system, to which each IS-BE adjusts themselves or "tune in" to an electronic wavelength

56 (Footnote) that is matched uniquely to the wavelength or frequency emitted by each IS-BE. Each IS-BE is capable of creating a unique wave frequency which identifies them, much like a radio signal frequency. This serves, in part, as identification like a finger print. The doll body acts like a radio receiver for the IS-BE. No two frequencies or doll bodies are exactly the same.

The bodies of each IS-BE crew member are likewise tuned into and connected to the "nervous system" built into the space craft. The space craft is built in much the same way as the doll body. It is adjusted specifically to the frequency of each IS-BE crew member. Therefore, the craft can be operated by the "thoughts" or energy emitted by the IS-BE. It is really a very simple, direct control system. So, there are no complicated controls or navigation equipment on board the space craft. They operate as an extension of the IS-BE.


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Dex, thanks for posting that load, but personally it never resonated for me. Yes, there is a lot of "factual" information in there, a lot of "info" or "truth", but the package in total reeks to me. JMHO.

Going through the archives for the book, I came across two emails that, when explained, show the newer readers at least how deep the Coverup goes.

The first email is from "K", who was a former member of the CotM (and yes, as Ann "from the heartlove" says in her comments, I have the "lists". One of those was of the MJ-12 line-up at the time, which Dan has so kindly confirmed in his affidavit of April 5th, 2007). The second set of comments is, as I mentioned, from Ann -- two days later. It confirms that she was monitoring my email, and it was she that "went nix nix on the Brit line" (cut the communication). (Naturally that didn't stop the correspondence, which found its way through other channels.)


August 16th - 18th 2005......."K" and Ann
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Don,

"Xxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxx"
[redacted due to comment being placed in quotation marks, which meant 'extremely confidential'.]


It appears that Dr. Burisch's perception is based in
prayer. he has no access to the Yellow Book but does
have access to his Lotus crystals. His history
suggests that he has such perceptions when outside,
but they do seem to subside when he is engaged in an
activity which requires him to focus. For instance,
if he is walking from place to place he will readily
perceive being watched, but when he is working on a
particular activity and focusing it appears his
perceptions are decreased. He has often said to his
friends that he is trying to teach himself to briefly
break from a focus to "immerse in the spirit" so that
he can perceive using his 6th. sense. His connection
to the spirit world is apparently very concrete when
he releases himself to it. It is believed by
Committee members that such began with his 1980
healing in Las Vegas and then he was taught further by
Chi'el'ah' the J-Rod. We know Chi'el'ah's name
because were heard Dr. Burisch call it out in 2003,
when both were taken to Egypt for the ill-fated
Osirion convergence: ill-fated for the Illuminati's
plans that is. Dr. Burisch crossed the copted members
of MJ12 and was then subjected to the fabrication,
created by MJ12 in 2004 for his silence as a result.
Chi'el'ah was not a rogue, he was a double operative
to the rogues from the Republic and gave information
to MJ12 and much private information to Dr. Burisch.
So, it is conceivable that certain J-Rods may have
regarded Chi'el'ah' as a traitor. He was no traitor.

Dr. Burisch has had access to future records, but I
hear he is being very coy in his debriefing about what
he says on that matter. He is being very direct on
other issues, speaking science-greek fluently and
taking the questioners and gallery people through
items step by step, very methodically. Really,
though, little is leaking from his debriefing
location. After each sitting, agents are seen outside
the location with scramble phones speaking with J's,
NSA, CIA and MI-5 almost in a frenzy like reporters
with a scoop.

K



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Don, a "canning exercise" is when we shut down access to something, like canning it? There really is quite a lot going on to put everything in the right 'frame' of mind for the public. ;)

You may have been misled as to whom is occupying the #1 slot, Don. It is not out of character for the #1 who gave it to him. #1 and #2 often change slots depending on what is going on.


This is a reference to the fact that Big Dick (VP Cheney) and Dadmiral (DNI McConnell) are often transposed as J-1 and J-2. It wasn't out of character for Dadmiral to give Dan that nice wooden walking stick (with the 33 masonic notches on it; you can even see it with Dan recently in his post-Myanmar relief picture).

It would really be out of character for the other one to give that to him. You are right. I know you have the lists. A few people are nervous about that but it doesn't violate Plausible D.

Yes, it really would be out of character for Big Dick Cheney to show such compassion; he'd just as likely shoot you in the face. She knew that Blackbird had given me the lists of both Majestic and the Committee of the Majority. I haven't divulged all the names of the CotM or their position - yet. Even if I did, they have their "Plausible Deniability."

God Bless all those from the heart love,

A


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It's rare to read such humour, Don! I am a scrimman before your comedic genius! :)

(Ah, a reference to a remark I made on the Stargate forum version of this GT at the time...this was from Aug 18, 2005.)

You know that Dan went nix nix on the Brit line some time ago. He doesn't even want people talking nice about him! It reupped and so when found it I was duty bound to go nix nix. Unfortunately there is no way to drag the old fuds out. They will deny deny you know that.

Dan didn't want COMMAJ17 talking to me, so Ann (at Dan's direction; Ann had been the former head of security at the Consistory - the masonic temple on 16th St NW Wash. DC) had to 'cut the line'. She was merely acknowledging that the members of the CotM that were talking to me wouldn't admit to it publicly.

#1 even told Dan that after he denied him they'd do lunch. They're on a joking basis like that. It's strange but it's how things are in here.

"It's how things are in here (Majestic)." Lying blithely is Standard Operating Procedure there.

Now I have to do the o'night drive to where Dan is to check on him. Marci is due back any mo. I'll have another person check to see if Bill responds with his items.

God Bless all those from the heart love,

A


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Don,

Before I head out on the drive, to show you I went nix nix on the line. I looked up one answer and checked for another one.


Translation: Ann would only be aware of the email(s) from "K" two days prior (and before) if she had opened my emails. A clear violation of my privacy, FISA be damned. Still, she knew of my questions also to "K".

Your first answer has to do with the Zed info from gal that you had a "private commune with".

Translation: Ann, head of security for Majestic's Consistory and then Dan's personal detail, confirmed again that I had email correspondence with Nancy Lieder of ZetaTalk, the "Zed gal".

These names are a big deal. They are taboo so anyone having a tab like that is considered an outee not an inee. It fits "seamless" but Dan can't talk about it by orders from above.

This is a reference to the fact that the Zetas (of Zetatalk, allegedly Service-To-Others) had declared Chi'el'ah was a traitor "because he had a name". In Chi'el'ah's society, only zetas who belonged to secret societies (like, say, the Priory of Sion or the Illuminati here on Earth) had names, which were of course secret. Dan is on record early on as having stressed that the J-rod "wasn't supposed to have a name" and never divulged it until he had been assured he (Chi'el'ah) had returned to Zeta Reticuli (or was it Gliese?), though IMNVSBL informed this Golden Thread before that time.

More glaring is the admission that DAN CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT BY ORDERS FROM ABOVE.

Is the situation becoming clearer???

The C*prime was a a double oper just like you were told. That girl is more than just realfeel. Distance chatter means big dangers. Think about that.

Translation: Chi'el'ah was a "double agent", just as Nancy Lieder's zetas claimed, and just as "K" had confirmed in his email to me two days prior.

Nancy Lieder is "more than just realfeel." In other words, she's not some ridiculous old windbag, and here Ann confirms it. (Although I guarantee you, knowing she and the SNEDs thugs do continue to read here, she will say she was just "psy-opping" me, telling me lies for some nefarious purpose). "Nancy Lieder is more than just realfeel."

"Distance chatter means big dangers." Yes, I've thought about that, and I hope the reader does too. The proximity of Nibiru is the subject of this coded comment, for those with even average intelligence.

Intel says your second answer has a sur-last like the comedy luvbote doc. But you would need a passport first. The passport to that doctor's office comes from an old press man for a residential man. The one who came out and said tell tell tell. You would need to contact him though a high power mouthpiece, former govy, now shill to shadowy sadomy, so you speak the right language. There is a man who can garner the meeting with that mouthpiece for you. He's got the qt on it. You've got the access to him. Check it with him first.

This was a reference to a potential newscaster (Ted Koppel. of ABC News' "Nightline"), who might be willing to do a story on the Affidavit Dan signed for us. The go-between was Ron Garner, but had to be done through John Podesta (I think), who was a spokesman for Pres. Clinton (a 'residential man', since they all knew I referred to Bush as the 'Resident').


Done with coding. Good luck. On to my drive.

God Bless all those from the heart love,

A


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These names are a big deal. They are taboo so anyone having a tab like that is considered an outee not an inee. It fits "seamless" but Dan can't talk about it by orders from above.

This is a reference to the fact that the Zetas (of Zetatalk, allegedly Service-To-Others) had declared Chi'el'ah was a traitor "because he had a name". In Chi'el'ah's society, only zetas who belonged to secret societies (like, say, the Priory of Sion or the Illuminati here on Earth) had names, which were of course secret. Dan is on record early on as having stressed that the J-rod "wasn't supposed to have a name" and never divulged it until he had been assured he (Chi'el'ah) had returned to Zeta Reticuli (or was it Gliese?), though IMNVSBL informed this Golden Thread before that time.


So Chi'a Pet ;) Was a member of Slave Driver Social Order the Zeta Race. The lowly Drones don't deserve a name because they are slaves (most likely known by numbers.)

So you see the Majestic Twelve where NOT interested in curing their species just the Slave Masters which where their Illuminati brothers in the future.

You know I kind of hope Chi'el'ah (hense forth known as Chi'a Pet for now on) got caught in the quantum gravitational waves of the Stargate, after Burisch kissed him on the melon head good bye. An once inside the slip stream got ripped to shreds , ejected out the other end like explosive diarrhea .

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Vincent Bugliosi, prosecutor from California, author and scholar, accuses GWB of 1st Degree MURDER before the House Judiciary Committee.


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I want to share this with the forum members. Believe me, things I'd rather not because it's so far fetched even the experiencer finds it hard to believe. So, since it's being talked about....not so awkward now. It still stretches the imagination though.

To DonD

IMO
It appears an attempt to compile a lot of the information as a story line.
What seems missing, apparently, are the spiritual aspects presently unknown by them or deliberately omitted. They don't mention Light frequencies of an individual. They indicate unique radio vibration signatures. A more lower term and that of an incomplete energy being. It also may be something that their not allowed to share with our authorities.
These domain levels, lower level controlling authorities, obviously do exist, but, their allowable methods are incomplete in our knowledge banks and not quite understood by the author or authors.
There is some truth in the mix that I'm aware.
And remember, this narration is through the perception of a supposed Domain member. An aggressive group with a warrior mind set.
Theres more to understand about the peaceful intents and nature of higher evolutionary Orders involved with our evolution.
It has been mentioned species of these levels tend to think their color rays are superior over others.
There's some merit in this fictional testimony.
I could tell you more about what I experienced, as a showing, about how these energy beings can put on a variety of creature suits.I picked one up. One alleged suit was a rubber mass that was in the image of a spider. Believe me it was weird to the touch, non-living, yet, at one time animated. I knew it exhibited intelligence, and that truly baffled me, I encountered this thing in a mansion I was exploring. They were playing games with me. When I learned about this, inconclusively, I began questioning my sanity. However, I knew what I experienced is what I experienced and chalked it up as another magical thing they could do. It's a long story. One that turned out to be a long drawn out education by energy beings with disposable housing garments (forms).
Since, I was well acclimated for introductions to our Divine Intelligence that surpass all of the individual aspects of the Cosmos.

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Dex wrote:
I want to share this with the forum members. Believe me, things I'd rather not because it's so far fetched even the experiencer finds it hard to believe. So, since it's being talked about....not so awkward now. It still stretches the imagination though.


Uncle John here: It doesn't stretch my imagination or experience.

I saw right through the "domain's" lack of spiritual insight. IMO, just more of the devil speaking.

When I say "only love can fill," it goes without saying that any long living sentient beings with a soul would not act like the "domain" does, collectively or individually.

I really noticed in the "domain's" channeled history lesson on earth that they left out any mention of Christ. Pretty glaring omission.


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