020109 06:18HRSPT: FOR DOCUMENT PURPOSES. DAN HAS JUST CALLED SOME OF HIS CONTACTS IN THE NEW GROUP AND HAS ASKED FOR THEM TO PLEASE SPEAK WITH THE GOVERNMENT OF EGYPT TO ALLOW AN EXPANDED HUMANITARIAN PASSAGE TO STAY OPEN FROM GAZA, ESPECIALLY AT RAFAH.

ISRAEL HAS THE GAZA STRIP IN A KILLING BOX, WITH THE ONLY WAY OUT BEING THE MEDITERRANEAN SEA.

DAN STANDS WITH THE PEOPLE OF GAZA, AND THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL, BUT WITH NEITHER OF THEIR GOVERNMENTS AT THIS MOMENT!

HE HAS DIRECTED ME TO DOWNLOAD A BUNCH OF STUFF ABOUT OCTAHEDRONS (HIS RESEARCH STUFF) I HAVE NO CHANCE OF UNDERSTANDING WHILE HE WORKS THE PHONES THROUGH THE MORNING.

HE IS PLEADING WITH HIS FRIENDS, ASSOCIATED TO THE KNESSET, FOR MERCY EVEN THOUGH HAMAS HAS SHOWN NONE WITH INDISCRIMINATE FIRING OF ROCKETS INTO ISRAEL.

I HEARD HIM LIFTING HIS VOICE IN OUR OFFICE, WITH TEARS, SAYING

"WHAT IS THE GATHERING OF ISRAEL, BUT A GATHERING OF PEOPLE SCATTERED FROM THEIR LAND? WHAT IS PALESTINE, BUT THE SAME? YOU MUST DO WHAT YOU MUST DO TO DEFEND YOUR PEOPLE BUT A CEASE FIRE WITHOUT STATUS QUO ANTE MUST BE FOUND! TOO MANY INNOCENTS ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS CONFLICT ARE IN HARM'S WAY! THIS MUST STOP NOW! IF YOU MUST DO WHAT YOUR GOVERNMENT IS CLEARLY PREPARING ON THE GROUND, YOU MUST ALLOW THE NONCOMBATANTS TO HAVE AN AVENUE OF ESCAPE TO PRESERVE THE "DIGNITY" OF YOUR DECLARED POSITION! PLEASE, IN THE NAME OF THE GOD OF ISRAEL AND HE WHO IS ONE! PLEASE! .. I AM SPEAKING WITH OUR FRIENDS IN THE GREAT COUNTRY OF EGYPT TO POSSIBLY ALLOW SUCH AN AVENUE, BUT MERCY, IN THE NAME OF GOD, MERCY! .."

(IF THESE TAPES ARE EVER RELEASED BY MARCI...WOW. THERE IS LITTLE WE CAN DO, BUT HE'S TRYING!)

First Amendment Watch
S.D. high court rules man's cursing at cops was free speech
By David L. Hudson Jr.
First Amendment scholar
Friday, January 2, 2009
A man who cursed at police officers in Brookings, S.D., engaged in protected free speech, the state high court has ruled.

The court voted 4-1 to reverse a lower court decision that had found Marcus Suhn used unprotected fighting words — defined by the U.S. Supreme Court more than 60 years ago as words “which by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace.”

Marcus J. Suhn yelled a stream of profanities beginning with "Fucking cop" on the sidewalk at 2 a.m. after the bars closed on Sept. 2, 2007, as two police officers were riding down the street in their patrol car. One officer heard Suhn, got out of his patrol car, arrested him and charged him with disorderly conduct.

After a trial court convicted Suhn, he appealed to the South Dakota Supreme Court, which reversed the ruling in its Dec. 30, 2008, opinion in State v. Suhn. The majority, in an opinion written by Justice Judith Meierhenry, examined the origins and development of the “fighting words” doctrine articulated by the U.S. Supreme Court in the 1942 decision Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire. The Court affirmed the conviction of Walter Chaplinsky after he allegedly called a local marshal a “fascist” and a “racketeer,” which the Court held were fighting words unprotected by the First Amendment.

In subsequent decisions, the U.S. Supreme Court narrowed the fighting-words doctrine. In Cohen v. California (1971), the Court declined to apply the fighting-words exception to First Amendment protection in the case of a man who wore a jacket bearing the words “Fuck the Draft” in a California courthouse, holding the phrase to be protected speech. In later decisions — Gooding v. Wilson (1972) and Lewis v. New Orleans (1974) — the Court invalidated convictions of individuals who cursed police officers, finding that the ordinances in question were unconstitutionally overbroad.

Analyzing this development, Meierhenry wrote that “the United States Supreme Court has made it clear that in order for speech to fall within the ‘fighting words’ exception, the words by their very utterance have ‘to tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace’ under the circumstances of the case.”

According to Meierhenry, Suhn’s profanity about the police did not “tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace,” as the other people standing on Main Street did not react with any type of violence.

“The crowd merely responded with facial expressions of disbelief,” he wrote. “Just because someone may have been offended, annoyed, or even angered by Suhn’s words does not make them fighting words.”

In dissent, Justice Richard W. Sabers characterized the context of the case differently, referring to “the crowd in this mob-like setting.” He reasoned that “the facts of this case are such that defendant’s speech tended to incite a breach of the peace.”

Righteous anger. Probably what it is. He slept for a few hours and now he's back at it again. 20-30 calls already. His new office is full of candles, tens upon tens, and I could smell the incense from two rooms away. I'm told not to discuss it with him, because even though we are friends I am not a one of his closest friends. I am also told told I can say what I want. But Dan is a candle and ash man. He's got ash from incense that goes all the way back from his prayers, I was told by Brian (Owl). The ash is remixed with candles when he continues to pray and fight like he's been doing. It's always kept and bottled when everything burns off. All I can definitely say is that when he lights those candles, a very strong feeling sets in, in the room and the rooms nearby. Quite extreme. SESQ

Dan and Dr. Marci have been aware of the Yellowstone events, and have been watching sites like this, daily-

http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/recent/uu00002803_l.html

A warning was issued by Eagles Disobey over a year ago about the West Coast, Cascadia, and east to the Wyoming hotspot.

In Dan's words, "Right now, missiles are flying between Gaza and Israel and people are dying. Out of 1.5 million in the Gaza siege area, 650,000+ have no electricity,etc, and a humanitarian disaster is looming! Where would you have me spend my time? With that, or with the ground rumbling that could be part of a longer cycle with no imminent eruption? Look, if excessive steam begins to vent, then we'll mobilize the team with the trucks we have available, fill them with survival supplies and all the filters and tents we can get a hold of, and go toward Wyoming to help as many as we can. Make sure we have the right kind of ventilators and other PPE to keep the microglass out. Get that ready, as a procedure, just in case but don't MOVE ON IT right now. Now I have to get back to the phones. Innocents are dying and the Israeli's look like they could imminently roll tanks. (exasperated expletive deleted)!"

Tonight, Dan is pressing every contact he has, not to stop a ground invasion (although he'd like that prevented) but to try to get a larger controlled opening for innocent people to escape. He said he'll work the phones until about daybreak on Saturday morning (U.S. west coast time)- :-/ and after that he will have done about all he can, and he doesn't feel that will be enough. On one side he is confronting contacts who say they're tired of having their homes attacked by Hamas rockets, and on the other he was given contacts from his friends in Pakistan, to people who are in contact with Hamas who say they're tired of being penned in, starved, bombed, and pushed into the sea by Israel! (He is not in direct contact with Hamas.) The only reason why he could get a hold of the second group is because of the strong friendship with some in the PPP. If not for them no one would talk to Dan because they know he's Jewish. ::) Oh, gosh almighty.

POSTED 2 HOURS AGO AFTER A CONVERSATION 3 HOURS AGO BETWEEN DAN IN NEVADA, U.S. AND A MAN IN JERUSALEM, ISRAEL

Temp post. A little slice of life:

"............................
Dan: Why?

Israeli O: You have always been our friend. A friend to Israel!

Dan: And I am now! The existence and self determination of your country, your right to exist, is not in question!

Israeli O: Is it not our land?

Dan: Is His meeting tent not large enough for everyone?

Israeli O: Eh! You must choose! It is we who are being terrorized!

Dan: I choose to be on the side of the innocents on both sides of this artificial dividing line, who are both being terrorized! Given these are acts of terrorism, xxxxxxxxxxxxx, my friend, is it not then beneath the dignity of your country to do as they do? Can you not see that the only way to stop this is to seek resolution through the United Nations, to the legal Palestinian Authority?

Israeli O: You are talking out of your head! You are acting like a fool!

Dan: And you are acting like an a**! People, listen to me, xxxxxxxxxxxx, PEOPLE, are dying on both sides of the line and your threatened limited incursion will not solve the problem, only exacerbate it and solidify the will of a people oppressed! Your people wandered for 40 so others must wander for 60, 70, how about 80?

Israeli O: It is determined!

Dan: What is determined? Genocide to call yourself the victor?

Israeli O: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx has determiend what must be done! You should understand. 911!

Dan: Are you telling be that UBL is in Gaza? Look, we are have been friends for a long time! Too long for you to b*llsh*t me around, xxxxxxxxx! You dam*ed well know why I am appealing to you!

.............................."

Call after call. ::) SESQ

I caught it. Whatever you set, we need to roll inside 3 hours of any alarm and order by the Eagles. If you need help let me know. Volunteers only if God forbid that goes, but we'll Prob restrict it to only Dan, Brian, Brent, and me. Everyone else south and on communications if there are any. S

Bri, I told Dan I thought we'd lose this one. He said then we lose honorably on the side of peace. Keep the calls going to him. We stay up until he's done. S

Dan and Dr. Marci have been aware of the Yellowstone events, and have been watching sites like this, daily-

http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/recent/uu00002803_l.html

A warning was issued by Eagles Disobey over a year ago about the West Coast, Cascadia, and east to the Wyoming hotspot.

In Dan's words, "Right now, missiles are flying between Gaza and Israel and people are dying. Out of 1.5 million in the Gaza siege area, 650,000+ have no electricity,etc, and a humanitarian disaster is looming! Where would you have me spend my time? With that, or with the ground rumbling that could be part of a longer cycle with no imminent eruption? Look, if excessive steam begins to vent, then we'll mobilize the team with the trucks we have available, fill them with survival supplies and all the filters and tents we can get a hold of, and go toward Wyoming to help as many as we can. Make sure we have the right kind of ventilators and other PPE to keep the microglass out. Get that ready, as a procedure, just in case but don't MOVE ON IT right now. Now I have to get back to the phones. Innocents are dying and the Israeli's look like they could imminently roll tanks. (exasperated expletive deleted)!"

http://www.sltrib.com/ci_11362057?source=rss

Israel invades Gaza, mobilizes reserves to battle Hamas

By Ibrahim Barzak And Josef Federman

The Associated Press
Updated: 01/03/2009 02:59:29 PM MST


GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip » Israeli tanks and infantry rolled into Gaza after nightfall Saturday, launching a ground offensive in a widening war against Hamas that the Israeli defense minister said "will not be easy and will not be short."

The ground operation was preceded by several hours of heavy artillery fire after dark, igniting flames in the night sky. Machine gun fire rattled as bright tracer rounds flashed through the darkness and the crash of hundreds of shells sent up streaks of fire.

Artillery fired illuminating rounds, sending streaks of bright light drifting down over Gaza's densely packed neighborhoods. Gunbattles could be heard, as troops crossed the border into Gaza, marching single file. They were backed by helicopter gunships and tanks.

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Related Note:

Israel allows foreigners to flee Gaza Strip
Jan. 2, 2009
YAAKOV KATZ and AP , THE JERUSALEM POST

Israel allowed dozens of Palestinian holders of foreign passports to escape the the Gaza Strip on Friday.

IDF spokesman Peter Lerner said nearly 300 Palestinians entered Israel through the Erez crossing, and that they held dual citizenship from a number of other countries, including the US, Russia, Turkey and Kazakhstan.

On Thursday, Col. Moshe Levi, commander of the IDF's Gaza Coordination and Liaison Administration, rejected Palestinian claims of a humanitarian crisis in the Strip.

He told the The Jerusalem Post that that since last Sunday more than 330 trucks carrying food, medicine and medical supplies had been allowed into Strip, despite the constant Gazan rocket barrages on the South.

In addition, the administration facilitated the transfer of 10 ambulances and 2,000 blood units, and has approved a Palestinian request to allow three Gazans wounded in the fighting into Israel for medical treatment, Levi said.

He stressed that Hamas was using civilian infrastructure - including hospitals, mosques and are

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The way to solve it is fight fire with fire.

Clone an army of Vlad Tepes and let them lose into the Middle East.

As horrid as that sounds. It is the ONLY thing these terrorists understand and fear.

While your preaching Peace “Give Peace a Chance” they will be slaughtering the Peace Activists for their Allah.

In Dan's words, "Right now, missiles are flying between Gaza and Israel and people are dying. Out of 1.5 million in the Gaza siege area, 650,000+ have no electricity,etc, and a humanitarian disaster is looming! Where would you have me spend my time? With that, or with the ground rumbling that could be part of a longer cycle with no imminent eruption? Look, if excessive steam begins to vent, then we'll mobilize the team with the trucks we have available, fill them with survival supplies and all the filters and tents we can get a hold of, and go toward Wyoming to help as many as we can. Make sure we have the right kind of ventilators and other PPE to keep the microglass out. Get that ready, as a procedure, just in case but don't MOVE ON IT right now. Now I have to get back to the phones. Innocents are dying and the Israeli's look like they could imminently roll tanks. (exasperated expletive deleted)!"

POSTED 2 HOURS AGO AFTER A CONVERSATION 3 HOURS AGO BETWEEN DAN IN NEVADA, U.S. AND A MAN IN JERUSALEM, ISRAEL

Temp post. A little slice of life:

"............................
Dan: Why?

Israeli O: You have always been our friend. A friend to Israel!

Dan: And I am now! The existence and self determination of your country, your right to exist, is not in question!

Israeli O: Is it not our land?

Dan: Is His meeting tent not large enough for everyone?

Israeli O: Eh! You must choose! It is we who are being terrorized!

Dan: I choose to be on the side of the innocents on both sides of this artificial dividing line, who are both being terrorized! Given these are acts of terrorism, xxxxxxxxxxxxx, my friend, is it not then beneath the dignity of your country to do as they do? Can you not see that the only way to stop this is to seek resolution through the United Nations, to the legal Palestinian Authority?

Israeli O: You are talking out of your head! You are acting like a fool!

Dan: And you are acting like an a**! People, listen to me, xxxxxxxxxxxx, PEOPLE, are dying on both sides of the line and your threatened limited incursion will not solve the problem, only exacerbate it and solidify the will of a people oppressed! Your people wandered for 40 so others must wander for 60, 70, how about 80?

Israeli O: It is determined!

Dan: What is determined? Genocide to call yourself the victor?

Israeli O: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx has determiend what must be done! You should understand. 911!

Dan: Are you telling be that UBL is in Gaza? Look, we are have been friends for a long time! Too long for you to b*llsh*t me around, xxxxxxxxx! You dam*ed well know why I am appealing to you!

.............................."

Call after call.
......
I caught it. Whatever you set, we need to roll inside 3 hours of any alarm and order by the Eagles. If you need help let me know. Volunteers only if God forbid that goes, but we'll Prob restrict it to only Dan, Brian, Brent, and me. Everyone else south and on communications if there are any.
.....
Bri, I told Dan I thought we'd lose this one. He said then we lose honorably on the side of peace. Keep the calls going to him. We stay up until he's done.

Uncle John here: Sometimes I step back and ask myself, what's going on? A good introduction can be found here: http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=6103

Dan has no concept how he is being used. None. It reminds me of the Marlon Brando line from "Apocalypse Now." Lying bloody and dying on the ground, Kurtz whispers "The horror... the horror," a line taken directly from Conrad's novella. The script is based on Joseph Conrad's novella "Heart of Darkness."

Dan: I choose to be on the side of the innocents on both sides of this artificial dividing line, who are both being terrorized! Given these are acts of terrorism, xxxxxxxxxxxxx, my friend, is it not then beneath the dignity of your country to do as they do? Can you not see that the only way to stop this is to seek resolution through the United Nations, to the legal Palestinian Authority?

Okay...let's get this done...

Marcia says I can post to it...I can post to it. Contracts are not my issue.

Dan

edit: And I have to do something about this depressing avatar! ;D I think I'll deal with that first! Good Lord! Every time I look here I see that stolid face...and...ahhh...it has to be changed! God Bless Chi'el'ah, but...

(There! Better! At least for now!)


"a) Given the enormity of what is at stake: the future of humanity and this planet, and that independent confirmation of the data would constitute a minimally acceptable standard for almost any issue of far less consequence,"

Too often, this tone...a tone of "inherent power or authority"...is presented toward me...over this issue...by a few. An implied argumentum ad verecundiam! This is not an issue where the grasp of the willing, the wanton, should be or will be applied. The words "enormity of what is at stake" are at once and sadly betrayed by the apparent willingness of a single individual (under the possibly naive assumption that one wrote it) to 'declare the constitution of a minimally acceptable standard.'

My, how mighty is one who approaches? (Whereas, I know my limitations...)

Representatives delegated by the United Nations struggled with similar (related) questions, in relation to the acquiescence to both the Omicron-Phi and Tau Treaties, and not really that long after the United Nations itself came into existence! It was decided that not one Nation State could speak for ALL Nation States, putting a real damper on the notion of Disclosure as some would have it, but we now seemingly behold a single individual who can declare in one breath the 'constitution of a minimally acceptable standard?'

Just as a single individual, touting years of experience (refer back to my other post which stated "not old enough"), thought he/she could see inside me simply because the word "troubled" was used to describe my state relative a decision to be made for lotus...so to now the same individual can decide a standard that I know is not my place to apply, as just one person.

The thought of that Cube in "someone's hands" is so drawing...it gives one the impression that one could be the nearest best thing to sliced bread. The reality, however, is that the word "enormity" doesn't hit home until such a thing is actually in one's presence. Those who so willfully grasp, when it it out of reach, should not be given the opportunity of proximity.

You are alive! I am alive! It is enough for me. You can rest assured that if you live to be 120 (and I hope you do...if you want to...in health, happiness and prosperity...) that you can continue to question and deny without my arguing against you. As I also correctly prognosticated...you may awaken and laugh and say to yourself that you knew it could never have happened...and I will awaken and KNOW. I'm good with it.

It shows pictures of just regular folks, like me, and you - whether any given person wants to realize it or not.


"b) The evidence that military and governmental circles have spent considerable resources building redoubts against cataclysm, and that certain groups continue to pursue that same apocalypse, - surely they would not have undertaken such an enormous project without considerable other evidence of the probabilities here (that is, they could not have relied solely on the Cube/Stargate data – or did they?),"

They have relied on more than Orion Cube, Looking Glass, and Traveler-data. They have drawn upon everything from matching hard physical data to the aforementioned means, and to myth, to prophecies, and generally to lore. The redoubts were placed there, as I have previously stated, should we be wrong about our interpretations. But...I find something very interesting almost buried in your question. It is how the question is dynamically arranged in this part:

"...have spent considerable resources building redoubts against cataclysm, and that certain groups continue to pursue that same apocalypse,..."

Certain groups are definitely shoring up defenses (albeit they would be almost worthless and they know this) should all of our interpretations have been wrong, and T-2 was to happen.

(I set here, not saying as you later imply in the statement - 'trust me,' but rather speaking from conviction AND NOT JUST ABOUT YOU! I am important to ME too! I have seen sufficient data, and that takes quite a bit, which assures ME that T-2 has been avoided! You may be able to use the term (as a concept...I guess... ::) ...) "Dan Burisch" impersonally...but I don't...I can't! I am just another person, but I matter too! I matter to me and to others. I am grateful for both.)

Yes, they are shoring them up...but they are not in a PURSUING state of mind. (I have spoken with a few such representatives.) The mental art of pursuing such an apocalypse is relegated to a very small subpopulation who are obviously fixated on catastrophe. The REAL 'rest of us' aren't. We plan on living on without it! We came here to LIVE, and we ALL depend on each other, and of course Almighty God, to make that happen!



"c) The known history of deception, metagames and control engaged in by these groups, which could (theoretically?) extend even to deceiving and gaming Dan Burisch himself, using his honor and integrity as a pawn in a larger game, (nah…. )"

The contents of the history is accurately stated. My fortuitous cross over between disciplines, access to original documents, level of echelon interaction to the Treaty and Policy Levels, argue against such a proposition JUST FOR THE ABILITY HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF DEBATING OR DISCUSSING WITH SUCH A LIMITED WORLDWIDE NUMBER. Then again, there does mix in such a subpopulation individuals who believe they are councilors for the entire earth ( ::) ) and still others who believe they can 'declare the constitution of a minimally acceptable standard' for us all ( ::) ). Don't get me wrong: that small (in comparison to world population) number became very important to even larger numbers...all of us really...but...whatever self-ascribed "luminaries" which constitute individual statistics (speaking mathematically) find their best attainment (in my humble opinion) caring for others, rather than strutting about like a cock on the walk.


"d) Coupled with what you already know about the unanticipated consequences of messing with timelines,"

Given. I offer no counterargument to be applied, as it is stated in and of itself.


"e) An initial confidence level in the Cube data of only 85% which is – I don’t know about you – not totally reassuring when someone still wins the lottery at odds of millions to one…. ,"


You have misstated the facts. Those significance levels were not attributed to the Orion Cube. They were developed from the dataset from the Looking Glass, and I have made that clear on many occasions. p=0.85 is a normally accepted good level of significance, a confidence bound, applied in statistics. Furthermore, that significance level was paired to a 0.19 probability. We would have preferred a p=95 or higher, but the Looking Glass people reported what they found.

Here's a useful intro-level link.
http://www.wentz.net/stats.shtml

(This all says more than those believing in an unseen, never detected issue of questionable interpretation, which they wrongly expound upon as certain death for most of us, while applying fallacies of relevance in the hopes that those who do not know about them will become afraid, and those who do know won't counter it.)

No indicators, matching a furtherance toward the realization of that probability were ever observed. I am not in possession of the raw data, or we could compute new intervals. Indicators matching to a variant of Timeline #1 (that being v83) were observed. Since that time, we have moved events in such a way that they neither match any known T1 variant, nor the infamous T2.

It is my personal interpretation, from the data to which I was privy, that should T2 have been "in the cards," we'd likely already be dead.


"f) The fact that the ‘rest of us’ – who will arguably be the most impacted by any T2 timeline consequences – do not have sufficient information about the Cube’s operation (i.e. Are the images ‘literal’ as in remote viewing, or ‘symbolic’ “standing on the bones of their children…”; the influence of the expectations/emotional biases of the observer; the role of interpretation; etc) or any means to independently evaluate the existing data to be able to form our own conclusions about the probable outcome, ….

In the case of the Cube, the answer is "both." In the case of the Looking Glass, whose data you have already wrongly ascribed to the Cube, the answer is "Literal images/sounds probabilities." Yet, still, within the content of your question, your characterization of RV results are questionable and in my interpretation also amiss, and especially so if discussing Coordinate Remote Viewing, as the complexity of the assigned random number has been attributed to a change in results, and perception clouds outcome. So, with all due respect, it seems your definition of "literal" may be no more grounded to fact than your assignment of the 85% concept to the Orion Cube. All this said, at times, I have found restricted and pre-cog (which some eliminate from true RV) Remote Viewing results very useful (in limited respects) in the elucidation of the Silicate Phenomenon we call "Lotus."


"It would – in my view - be irresponsible not to ask what other venues of information or data can be evaluated to confirm or deny the Cube’s readings."

You and the rest of the public know very little of the Cube's outcomes, and the use of the term "readings" matches that of currently used tactic (by a few) to associate the use of a highly advanced piece of technology to something as comical as "zeta talk." (Let me use my nearly nonexistent, certainly not honed, psychic abilities, and just guess that the preceding sentence hit a nerve?)


"Any scientist, at least, would expect to be able to confirm any novel experiment, no? So surely to God there must be some other data/events/numbers out there that can be publically added to the message here? And if not, then that fact must also be taken into account."

This technique is a combination of the application of ignoratio elenchi (which falls under "Fallacies of Relevance"), (as my colleague, Marcia, has stated) a 'disregard of published materials,' (such as that found at http://www.projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html and in the now published DVDs#3/#4) and (in my opinion) is used (by its tone) to "pursue" (in this case the pun is intended to relate to my above mentioned statement about fixation on the concept of "catastrophe")...a furtherance of the theme of "inherent power or authority." Furthermore, the use of these devices has been ongoing for decades, as testified to by independent witnesses (see DVD#2 - Will Uhouse's testimony, for instance), and thus your label of novelty fails muster.


"Leaving a single good soul, one hapless Dan Burisch, to say ‘Trust me’ to all of this as others hide opaquely behind him pursuing other secret agendas is – to say the least – unworthy of them as leaders and scientists, the scope of the issue and its importance to all of humanity."

You saved the best for last, and ironically where the denouement belongs! ;D You see, unlike those who live their lives as victims, claiming that every little (and big) thing which goes wrong is due to others, I readily take responsibility for almost most everything which has happened in my life, while always giving deference to God for not only the privilege but the great Blessings, and even for those things hidden to me, which I may perceive as problems! I swore into Majestic in 1986. No ET told me to do it. I did it for my own reasons. I made countless other decisions: some great, some good, some not so good, and some terrible ones ;D along the way! It's a fact of life, and one which I see (albeit the overall numbers are small)...but nevertheless...one I see some doing everything in their ability to rationalize away...even to the point of tacitly declaring themselves mentally unsound due to "influences from without" that allegedly control minds! (This statement is not focusing on the legitimately known tactics used in the commercial industries, and mechanisms applied by humans in application of political/financial power against humans for social control.) Some do it through an unwillingness to face reality, others (and I feel for these folks and try to help) have biochemical issues applied within their neural networks, but still others apply ruses to control people while they prey on them through their observed weaknesses.

Nowhere along the line have I asked you to declare your respect or your belief, or your 'just trust me.' You were ADVISED (and such was set in legal stone, somewhat as a courtesy) what we were doing, and why. Nowhere along the line have I asked you for your thanks, admiration, or approval. (This has been said before.) Yet, even with the mass of evidence now in place, virtually (for some) unexplainably, they step forward from that same nowhere and demand (by use of subterfuge) a level of respect (even of jury power) they have not earned, the same which we have never requested, and prance around in pretend fine linens, the same which I have (in reality) personally eschewed.

The arguments of some seem fixated on the predication that such can be demanded of a person (and a team) who has done his (their) bit for "king and country" and never knew you in like service while doing it, but always held you in his (their) heart(s) anyway. I (we) still do. I (we) didn't do these things, make this sacrifice and service just for ourselves, we did it in the full knowledge that "some would awaken (i.e. become aware) and..."

There are no prizes in this, save the knowledge of what we did, that it was done for the right reasons, for the good, for everyone, and we have (on many occasions) already made that clear.

Are the people for whom we have worked worthy of our (meaning the team's) admiration? In many instances "no" and in a few "yes." I know that may be not what some want to hear, but I am not changing my perception, recollection of events, or history, for those who claim that my perception is controlled or colored by others.

The description of me being "hapless" is almost as funny as the poor amateur comedian who once tried to paint me as a saint. It also shows that you have not faced me in anything even as light as a parlor game. Where dice are concerned, some become so "concerned" about my good luck (including Marcia! ;D), that they demand my use of a cup to shake any set of dice prior to casting them! ;D The askewed comment of "single good soul" is either a denunciation of everyone else (as I am no better than anyone else) or it is an unfortunate Freudian slip from any number of origins. But...it isn't that, is it? While your analysis is overtly agenda-emotionally driven, and (please exclude the terms) "highly questionable," it isn't the focus on my being a good soul (I hope I am) that's bothering you, is it?

Could it be these words?


"You will conduct this disclosure with the application of your sacred honor, without regard for personal security, and in an unwavering manner rely upon the Truth and the countenance of Almighty God as your personal defense."

I hope it's not those words.

When a person does just that, and I 99.99% have (I had some concerns about my safety recently, but that was after the closure of the successful completion of the orders) those you may have "opaquely" stood in the background, have made no difference to the application of the truth which was issued from me! Their debilitated honor is their problem, and I have maintained mine, firm.

Thank you, Dan. I was waiting to read it. (Squirrel, we'll leave it up for a short hour and transfer it to the archive.) It's good to let people see the analytical depth, how you can handle yourself under veiled and open attack, and what is waiting for anyone, should things (which I doubt) ever become real enough in a courtroom or tribunal.

You spend so much time smiling, laughing, and caring for those in need, because that's your spirit. That's your heart! But there comes a time to let others who have negative intentions know! There comes a time, Dan.

This is the last thing I'll direct of you for awhile in the public, so you can focus on the integration of the theory, the extra projects we have, the scattered requests for diplomatic interventions, and the coming Widget deployment. Have fun, enjoy yourself in the research. You've earned it!

By the way: the cutting equipment you requested for the geothermal cones, to get trace fossil data, has been ordered.

Shifting Ground
A pollution horror happened in Harriman, TN when a dam holding back coal slurry broke, spewing the slurry downhill along ravines and toward the Tennessee River. Coal slurry contains heavy metals, and the spill is considered more damaging overall than the Exxon Valdez oil spill. Tennessee has not previously had a slurry dam breach, ever. The official reason for the breach? A moderately cold day, 14 F, and 2 inches of rain above the average for December. If this sounds like a lame excuse, it is.



Tennessee Dam Bursts, Hundreds Of Acres Flooded With Toxic Slurry Of Ash
December 22, 2008
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/2 ... 53231.html
An earthen dam holding back a retention pond broke early Monday at a power plant run by the nation's largest public utility, releasing a frigid mix of water, ash and mud that damaged 12 homes and put hundreds of acres of rural land under water. The 40-acre pond was used by the Tennessee Valley Authority to hold a slurry of ash generated by the coal-burning Kingston Steam Plant in Harriman, about 50 miles west of Knoxville. Investigators were trying to determine exactly what caused the breach, but the TVA spokesman said heavy rains and freezing temperatures may be to blame. Forecasters said the overnight temperature dropped to 14 degrees in Harriman and Francis said there had been 4.9 inches of rain this month so far compared to 2.8 inches in a typical December.

Prewritten ...

Are we at a 6 on the 1-10 scale yet? It is past the technical end of 2008 by the Gregorian calendar.

SOZT
We warned during last weeks chat that the exact “end” of 2008 should not be delimited by the Gregorian calendar date – midnight of December 31, 2008, which in any case varies by hours depending upon one’s location around the globe. Predictions on geological changes can be accurate as to cause and effect and sequence of events, but not always accurate as to exact date and time. The events we included in our 6 of 10 have NOT all occurred as yet, but soon will. About this we can say no more.
EOZT

There has been a lot of discussion on a GLP thread about harmonic tremor and long period trace and whether the charts from Yellowstone seismographs
[link to mbmgquake.mtech.edu]
[link to mbmgquake.mtech.edu]
[link to mbmgquake.mtech.edu]
show this when they jiggle in an almost steady state manner. Is there a coverup about harmonic tremor at Yellowstone or is the jiggle something different, and if so, what the heck is it?
[and from another]
Looks Like Harmonic Tremors at Yellowstone Super Volcano
December 30, 2008
www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-170499
It has been reported and noted by the USGS that an earthquake swarm has been occuring under Lake Yellowstone since December 26th. The attached webicorder display shows that after the tremor swarm activity died down this evening a new pattern of potential classic harmonic tremors has started and continues at the time of this posting. Harmonic tremors could mean lava is now moving under the Yellowstone super volcano.

 graph at that link www.ireport.com

SOZT
Yellowstone is unique in that water is part of the process, with overheated water and steam being regularly released from the caldera – the famous Old Faithful geyser and similar tourist spots. Are the harmonic tremor vibrations thus caused by magma on the move, or simply water under pressure attempting to find an outlet? This pattern, of the almost continuous jiggle, has showed up repeatedly over recent years, without an eruption. Thus, park officials and geologists assigned to monitor the situation are loathe to sound the alarm and look silly when nothing results from a restless period. Perhaps a new geyser is being born, something as benign as that. The problem with failing to sound the alarm is that IF this is magma on the move and an eruption is imminent, no warning will have been given to the public. The tremors are being caused by both water and steam pressure AND magma on the move. Yellowstone has lots of existing outlets for magma to travel upward, however, unlike the typical volcano which has perhaps only one vent. Plugged, this single vent must blow to release pressure. For Yellowstone, we predict a slow eruption, where hot water and steam begin to be replaced by magma, at many vent points. This will produce ash, as unlike water vapor, magma that has been ejected into the air will settle as ash, not as rain. The current quake swarm is indicative of BREAKING rock, opening a pathway under the lake. This will be one of many vents whereby magma finds an outlet in the near future. About this we cannot be more specific.
EOZT

Can you comment on the big earthquake today in Indonesia? Is it a sign of PX getting closer, increasing Earth changes, etc... and can we expect to see more of the same soon?
[and from another]
Can the Zetas comment on how the recent 7.8 quake affects the stress on North America? I understand dates are off limits.

SOZT
We have mentioned previously that the Indo-Australian plate is the brake that holds back greater adjustments among the other Earth plates. Thus, significant adjustments can be expected whenever significant MOVEMENT along the Indo-Australian plate occurs. Any given quake does not involve significant movement, but this most recent quake has included movement. Note that sister quakes have occurred from Indonesia to New Zealand, all during the same day. When movement occurs, a domino effect can be expected elsewhere around the globe.
EOZT

Any comment on the "long before 2012" statement now that we are in 2009?

SOZT
Although we hinted during 2008 that Obama would be president during the pole shift, and that the Earth changes would be no greater than a 6 of 10 at the end of 2008, we will give no such hints about 2009. Make of that what you will. In order to trip the establishment so that the cover-up is revealed to the public, surprises are necessary.
EOZT

God Bless Chi'el'ah, but...

"a) Given the enormity of what is at stake: the future of humanity and this planet, and that independent confirmation of the data would constitute a minimally acceptable standard for almost any issue of far less consequence,"

Too often, this tone...a tone of "inherent power or authority"...is presented toward me...over this issue...by a few. An implied argumentum ad verecundiam! This is not an issue where the grasp of the willing, the wanton, should be or will be applied. The words "enormity of what is at stake" are at once and sadly betrayed by the apparent willingness of a single individual (under the possibly naive assumption that one wrote it) to 'declare the constitution of a minimally acceptable standard.'

My, how mighty is one who approaches? (Whereas, I know my limitations...)

Representatives delegated by the United Nations struggled with similar (related) questions, in relation to the acquiescence to both the Omicron-Phi and Tau Treaties, and not really that long after the United Nations itself came into existence! It was decided that not one Nation State could speak for ALL Nation States, putting a real damper on the notion of Disclosure as some would have it, but we now seemingly behold a single individual who can declare in one breath the 'constitution of a minimally acceptable standard?'

Just as a single individual, touting years of experience (refer back to my other post which stated "not old enough"), thought he/she could see inside me simply because the word "troubled" was used to describe my state relative a decision to be made for lotus...so to now the same individual can decide a standard that I know is not my place to apply, as just one person.

The thought of that Cube in "someone's hands" is so drawing...it gives one the impression that one could be the nearest best thing to sliced bread. The reality, however, is that the word "enormity" doesn't hit home until such a thing is actually in one's presence. Those who so willfully grasp, when it it out of reach, should not be given the opportunity of proximity.

You are alive! I am alive! It is enough for me. You can rest assured that if you live to be 120 (and I hope you do...if you want to...in health, happiness and prosperity...) that you can continue to question and deny without my arguing against you. As I also correctly prognosticated...you may awaken and laugh and say to yourself that you knew it could never have happened...and I will awaken and KNOW. I'm good with it.

It shows pictures of just regular folks, like me, and you - whether any given person wants to realize it or not.

"b) The evidence that military and governmental circles have spent considerable resources building redoubts against cataclysm,

and that certain groups continue to pursue that same apocalypse,

- surely they would not have undertaken such an enormous project without considerable other evidence of the probabilities here (that is, they could not have relied solely on the Cube/Stargate data – or did they?),"

They have relied on more than Orion Cube, Looking Glass, and Traveler-data. They have drawn upon everything from matching hard physical data to the aforementioned means, and to myth, to prophecies, and generally to lore. The redoubts were placed there, as I have previously stated, should we be wrong about our interpretations. But...I find something very interesting almost buried in your question. It is how the question is dynamically arranged in this part:

"...have spent considerable resources building redoubts against cataclysm, and that certain groups continue to pursue that same apocalypse,..."

Certain groups are definitely shoring up defenses (albeit they would be almost worthless and they know this) should all of our interpretations have been wrong, and T-2 was to happen.

(I set here, not saying as you later imply in the statement - 'trust me,' but rather speaking from conviction AND NOT JUST ABOUT YOU! I am important to ME too! I have seen sufficient data, and that takes quite a bit, which assures ME that T-2 has been avoided! You may be able to use the term (as a concept...I guess... ::) ...) "Dan Burisch" impersonally...but I don't...I can't! I am just another person, but I matter too! I matter to me and to others. I am grateful for both.)

Yes, they are shoring them up...but they are not in a PURSUING state of mind. (I have spoken with a few such representatives.) The mental art of pursuing such an apocalypse is relegated to a very small subpopulation who are obviously fixated on catastrophe. The REAL 'rest of us' aren't. We plan on living on without it! We came here to LIVE, and we ALL depend on each other, and of course Almighty God, to make that happen!

"c) The known history of deception, metagames and control engaged in by these groups, which could (theoretically?) extend even to deceiving and gaming Dan Burisch himself, using his honor and integrity as a pawn in a larger game, (nah…. )"

The contents of the history is accurately stated. My fortuitous cross over between disciplines, access to original documents,

level of echelon interaction to the Treaty and Policy Levels, argue against such a proposition JUST FOR THE ABILITY HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF DEBATING OR DISCUSSING WITH SUCH A LIMITED WORLDWIDE NUMBER. Then again, there does mix in such a subpopulation individuals who believe they are councilors for the entire earth ( ::) ) and still others who believe they can 'declare the constitution of a minimally acceptable standard' for us all ( ::) ). Don't get me wrong: that small (in comparison to world population) number became very important to even larger numbers...all of us really...but...whatever self-ascribed "luminaries" which constitute individual statistics (speaking mathematically) find their best attainment (in my humble opinion) caring for others, rather than strutting about like a cock on the walk.

"d) Coupled with what you already know about the unanticipated consequences of messing with timelines,"

Given. I offer no counterargument to be applied, as it is stated in and of itself.

"e) An initial confidence level in the Cube data of only 85% which is – I don’t know about you – not totally reassuring when someone still wins the lottery at odds of millions to one…. ,"


You have misstated the facts. Those significance levels were not attributed to the Orion Cube. They were developed from the dataset from the Looking Glass, and I have made that clear on many occasions. p=0.85 is a normally accepted good level of significance, a confidence bound, applied in statistics. Furthermore, that significance level was paired to a 0.19 probability. We would have preferred a p=95 or higher, but the Looking Glass people reported what they found.

Here's a useful intro-level link.
http://www.wentz.net/stats.shtml

(This all says more than those believing in an unseen, never detected issue of questionable interpretation, which they wrongly expound upon as certain death for most of us, while applying fallacies of relevance in the hopes that those who do not know about them will become afraid, and those who do know won't counter it.)

No indicators, matching a furtherance toward the realization of that probability were ever observed. I am not in possession of the raw data,

or we could compute new intervals. Indicators matching to a variant of Timeline #1 (that being v83) were observed. Since that time, we have moved events in such a way that they neither match any known T1 variant, nor the infamous T2.

It is my personal interpretation, from the data to which I was privy, that should T2 have been "in the cards," we'd likely already be dead.

"f) The fact that the ‘rest of us’ – who will arguably be the most impacted by any T2 timeline consequences – do not have sufficient information about the Cube’s operation (i.e. Are the images ‘literal’ as in remote viewing, or ‘symbolic’ “standing on the bones of their children…”; the influence of the expectations/emotional biases of the observer; the role of interpretation; etc) or any means to independently evaluate the existing data to be able to form our own conclusions about the probable outcome, ….

In the case of the Cube, the answer is "both." In the case of the Looking Glass, whose data you have already wrongly ascribed to the Cube, the answer is "Literal images/sounds probabilities." Yet, still, within the content of your question, your characterization of RV results are questionable and in my interpretation also amiss, and especially so if discussing Coordinate Remote Viewing, as the complexity of the assigned random number has been attributed to a change in results, and perception clouds outcome. So, with all due respect, it seems your definition of "literal" may be no more grounded to fact than your assignment of the 85% concept to the Orion Cube. All this said, at times, I have found restricted and pre-cog (which some eliminate from true RV) Remote Viewing results very useful (in limited respects) in the elucidation of the Silicate Phenomenon we call "Lotus."

"It would – in my view - be irresponsible not to ask what other venues of information or data can be evaluated to confirm or deny the Cube’s readings."

You and the rest of the public know very little of the Cube's outcomes, and the use of the term "readings" matches that of currently used tactic (by a few) to associate the use of a highly advanced piece of technology to something as comical as "zeta talk." (Let me use my nearly nonexistent, certainly not honed, psychic abilities, and just guess that the preceding sentence hit a nerve?)

"Any scientist, at least, would expect to be able to confirm any novel experiment, no? So surely to God there must be some other data/events/numbers out there that can be publically added to the message here? And if not, then that fact must also be taken into account."

This technique is a combination of the application of ignoratio elenchi (which falls under "Fallacies of Relevance"), (as my colleague, Marcia, has stated) a 'disregard of published materials,' (such as that found at http://www.projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html and in the now published DVDs#3/#4) and (in my opinion) is used (by its tone) to "pursue" (in this case the pun is intended to relate to my above mentioned statement about fixation on the concept of "catastrophe")...a furtherance of the theme of "inherent power or authority." Furthermore, the use of these devices has been ongoing for decades, as testified to by independent witnesses (see DVD#2 - Will Uhouse's testimony, for instance), and thus your label of novelty fails muster.

2009 is supposedly the year the next OF-9 treaty will be signed. I don't suppose the Tall Whites could be persuaded to neutralize the dogs of war and put the smoking guns out of action once and for all around the world? Perhaps Dan_B could have a quiet word with their delegates if he's in attendance this year, because it looks like the US Administration is going to let Israel do what it likes for the foreseeable future, unless Obama bucks the trend.

Uncle John here: This is the nicest thing I ever heard reported that dan does. I understand the ritual significance of this. If one has never deeply experience ritual then this would be hard to understand.

I've been in places with very strong spiritual feelings. I have even help generate those feelings. This is one of the many reasons I love dan.

I wonder if dan has much experience with these type of feelings shared between several or many people in the same time and place? If enough of us would generate and share these feelings together, the universe could be changed. We could even do this on the internet. In a way, these kind of feelings were generated and shared during our early chats with dan. Why did it have to stop?

.......For what Israel has spent in "blood and treasure", they could have bought up all the homes and land of the Palestinians, at a fair price too, and be living in peace right now with the Palestinians using the proceeds to purchase equivalent homes in the lands of the other Arab nations that seem so sympathetic to their cause..........

From what I hear, mjc, there will be no more "OF-9" signings. ET isn't supposed to interfere with how we carry out our internecine conflicts with one another, only when our use of nuclear weapons - which can infect other parts of the Creation outside our own littered yard - allows them to. And Dan_B having a "quiet word"? Good grief! No such thing! His words are constantly carried to the "limited public", at least those which are used in the ongoing mythologizing. And I think the US will unfortunately 'let' Israel do what it likes for the foreseeable future; Obama's mute reaction has already angered even moderate forces in the Mideast. He's hiding behind "we only have one president at a time", and has yet to acknowledge that Hamas only began lobbing rockets into Israel when it became apparent that Israel wasn't going to let up on their blockade of Gaza ---- one they instituted following Hamas' election 4 years ago. Few have stopped to ask why Hamas didn't renew the ceasefire, but then few have stopped to ask why the peoples of that area have to butcher each other constantly. For what Israel has spent in "blood and treasure", they could have bought up all the homes and land of the Palestinians, at a fair price too, and be living in peace right now with the Palestinians using the proceeds to purchase equivalent homes in the lands of the other Arab nations that seem so sympathetic to their cause. Why didn't they do that? It isn't as if Israel couldn't have afforded it; after all, the US taxpayers send $4 billion annually to that newcomer of a state. Had they done that systematically, they would be living in a peaceful world, but no. They had to build 'settlements' in areas the UN (not that it has any real legitimacy) had set aside for the Palestinian portion of what used to be 'Palestine' or in ancient times 'Israel'. But because of the unwillingness of the Arabs to accept the new Israelis in their midst, this led to the Israelis defending their new land ferociously and then going in and 'colonizing' even more of the Palestinians' lands. This vicious cycle has led to never-ending war between them, and until the Israelis realize that no amount of superior military might will solve their problem, it will continue to go on and on.

Mjc, Dond, I'd like to interject a problem I see.

You're understanding these events and manipulations, again, I repeat, through your physical eyes.

It's beyond that. Until, you begin using the other sight you'll be stuck in the limiting range.

Dan, knows...I can read it with him. but there's no way he'll try to explain to you. He hasn't has he?

The ET groups function this way.

UJ's suspicions are correct, and you know Dan knows this to be true. Look at all the interference he's had.
He's made enough remarks about it, yet, he refuses or doesn't know how to share that major aspect of the game.

It's the controlling extreme not many of you are not familiar with.

These invisible's are communicating. I'm sure to Dan as well, and they are a Looking Glass. They like to inform.

Dex