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Post Re: real life unfolding like fiction, or the other way aroun
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Now if you want to see some more garbage videos, enjoy our own marci in front of the camera.

http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y1/unj ... owing1.flv

http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y1/unj ... owing2.flv

If you watch and listen carefully, you can see the similarities in these presentations besides the obvious garbage.

I love a parade.

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I assume that was the voice of Stan the Maj shrink off-camera, doing a spot of psychoanalysis in these two clips?

This is a side to Marcia that folks on the Net haven't seen much of. The question is, as one puppet (not of the sock variety) questioned in "Team America," are these emotions for real or is she doing a Susan Sarandon?

These strong emotions seem to be brought on by musical interludes and certain scenes she heard and saw in Nicolas Cage's latest film (he's an MIT professor of astrophysics, believe it or not) called "Knowing" which brought back nostalgic memories of her childhood. She's saying that elements of her own life have been deliberately "embedded" in Cage's film, including parts of the Burisch saga as well. "Knowing" was written as a novel by Ryne Pearson, so I just read, so I don't know what Pearson would say about that, that's if the film-makers have adhered to the author's plot.

I haven't seen the film, but it starts with a time capsule being dug up and from that the main characters learn that many of the dire predictions that had been made have come true over the last 50 years or so and other imminent "events" are about to happen. After a series of CGI setpieces, the film ends in a worldwide catastrophe with a solar flare that kills billions. Only the few are saved by "whispering" angel-like beings who whisk them away to new worlds to start afresh. Ironically, in the last clip, Marcia said as a little girl she experienced endless episodes of disembodied whisper-like chatter around her, which her parents put down to a susurrusing waterheater in the closet (or an overactive imagination no doubt), but she knew better.
Marci is as bad an actor as her co-hort dan...not worth watching...attention seekers all exhibit the same traits...There is too much worrying about them here...Lets just stick to our game and forget theirs..Always follow the money...they're only trying to hock off some dvd's,a few books and get on radio shows... :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Post It's Not About The Money, It's About The TEARS
It's Not About the Money, It's About the Tears!

AntZtudiO wrote:
Marci is as bad an actor as her co-hort dan...not worth watching...attention seekers all exhibit the same traits...There is too much worrying about them here...Lets just stick to our game and forget theirs..Always follow the money...they're only trying to hock off some dvd's,a few books and get on radio shows... :roll: :roll: :roll:


More or less true, AntZ (I got your heads-up about the "Dying NASA Scientist..." YouTube clip; got it from a few other readers too....and I'll have a few things to say about it shortly), but it's not as simple as that (IMHDO, of course). More a case of "Look How Good We Are! See How We Care! Count the Teardrops!" Talk about 'bad form'! (A charge levelled at me several times in the wake of the 'Big Psy-Op'; they expect people to roll over and go away quietly when they throw them 'under the bus' after their usefulness is over.) They aren't so much about making money at this (methinks that 'gift' from Dadmiral a couple of weeks ago might have been a chunk of cash, if they arrived at a certain point in time having played the game the way they were expected to). It's more about "making it to Sion", fulfilling a plan set in motion decades ago (like the plot to the "Knowing" movie).

Consider the picture I was sent of Marci with Patricia Neal, the lead actress in the Majestic-sanctioned 1950s movie "The Day The Earth Stood Still" (a reference to what they were warned of back then).

Here's the letter that accompanied it:

Don,

I am still operating successfully, at least somewhat
out of the reach of Dr. Burisch. He has been a real
tosser of my actions.

I have discovered some bits of information about
Marcia. It seems that she held a fine line during her
providing information against the Illuminati's attempt
to smear her and affect Dan's mind, with that Nun's
outfit. Her father moved her in direction of acting
in order to teach her the ways of public acclimation.
Such teaching is soon to come to fruition. Marcia
admitted to playing a Nun in "Shattered Vows,"
opposite Valerie Bertinelli, but what she told no one
was that she was placed under the care of Patricia
Neal, to learn from here. Patricia Neal, of course,
was at the start of the carefully crafted public
program, in the Movie "The Day the Earth Stood Still".
Patricia Neal was well versed in the program, and
used her inside pull to do wonderful things for
society. It is with Patricia Neal, that Marcia first
learned what her family was really assigned to do:
ACCLIMATION.

Following her time with Patricia Neal, Marcia was
given a part to become an astronaut's wife, in the 13
part mini-series' adaptation of James Michener's
novel, "Space". You now know, of course, about her
step-cousin in Battlestar Galactica.

The acclimation will soon continue, but this time with
Dr. Burisch.

K



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This effort to use Marcia Mcdowell and Dan Burisch to ACCLIMATE (translation: bamboozle and lull the public during the 'last days', as all good lamedvavniks need to do in order to maintain 'Domestic Tranquility' until it's too late for the hoi poloi to do anything about accountability) uses their egos to maintain the effort, much more so than any monetary reward could do. Believe me, they honestly believe they are doing the right thing by deceiving the public; Dan may even still, to this day, believe in the delusion he was fostered in by Chi'el'ah that "IT" is avoidable, that there are indeed 'alternate timelines' (there is a good explanation for that, the subject of a later commentary). Alas, for the public, it's been determined (a 'decision has been taken', as Dan B. puts it) that even 'warning' the populations would be 'counter-productive'. Hence the sound of one hand clapping; what are they arguing with, except their own straw men? And now they are reduced to having to buy up domains with my moniker, UJ's moniker, and a fake 'Golden Thread' in order to have a fake discourse, one in which they continue their hypocrisy of putting words in my mouth, all the while refusing to come clean about a whole host of issues. Notice how Dan says, according to "sgold1942" of SNEDs, "it's time for some straight talk". The inference is that things said up to that point are NOT 'straight talk', that only when Dan B. says it's time will "straight talk" be engaged in. Most readers sense this double-speak, which is why there are so many rolling eyes emoticons here at the (original and authentic) Golden Thread.

Here's another image, from the month before the Big Psy-Op; I was shown this before it was posted on Marci's computer, and should have paid more attention to it then. The statement "...has been accepted by his receiving society" is a reference to the Priore de Sion:

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So you see, it appears that Marcia McDowell had her life's work already cut out for her before she was a gleam in her Majestic father's eye. Dan Burisch's role was determined after his "essence" was mixed with that of Dadmiral's son Michael aboard the craft that abducted him in 1973, at that time "becoming the gleam in his Majestic 'father's' eye".

The show of tears is similar to the show of charity; Jesus admonished us not to have to flaunt our charity, our pity or sympathy. It's "bad form", for one thing, but it smacks of sanctimony. When I read that Dan asked if pictures of him crying tears "for humanity" had been posted, the affirmative to which he replied "cool!", it showed a lack of true humility, an unseemly ego more interested in his role as a saint (but he ain't no Moses, as he likes to remind us) than anything truly concerned with the plight of the naive. Yet, it's almost pitiful watching the display of tears. For Marci, like Dan before her in the movie "Paycheck" (the Ben Affleck movie from a few years back that had dozens of references to Dan - ranging from the train's number being the same as his apartment number, etc - "encoded" in the movie, an easy thing to do when you have pull in Hollywood as Majestic does), having these memes encoded in a movie in your 'honor' would, I imagine, drive one to tears when considering how much "modest circumstances" they've had to endure all this time, to be molded into the lamedvavnik mission they're supposedly conducting.

Interestingly enough, on tonight's MSNBC news coverage (the Rachel Maddow show, one of the few news programs that doesn't insult the intelligence of the viewer), the "Just Enough" segment at the end showed a review of the Number One box office movie "Knowing" asking the rhetorical question "why is this movie number one?" The reviewer said (in so many words; I have to wait until the transcript becomes available tomorrow) "because people worried about their mortgages can be relieved when watching a movie in which the world as we know it comes to an end". In fact, there were too many references in the MSM today about issues we only discuss here that I can't name them. I was shocked. Shocked! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Remember there are TWO sets of treaties, with TWO spiritually-polarized factions. Yes, a myriad of other races and species of galactic neighbors, but only TWO poles on any given world - whether physical or spiritual.

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Post Re: It's Not About The Money, It's About The TEARS
I have discovered some bits of information about
Marcia. It seems that she held a fine line during her
providing information against the Illuminati's attempt
to smear her and affect Dan's mind, with that Nun's
outfit.Her father moved her in direction of acting
in order to teach her the ways of public acclimation.


Well that was waste of tuition fee's then wasnt it? 8) 8)

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how amusing and helpful.

The creation and use of your name and moniker DD, gives credence and immediacy to the claim that we are enduring on-going harassment.

Thank you SNEDs !

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(As a Contactee, unfortunately, the below has been indicated to me. On a positive note, I believe some contactees will be given knowledge where to access temporary portals for people not lifted out and desiring to escape the destructive zones prior to the shift...If I'm gifted with another contact, I promise you that will be what I will ask about....Dex)

CURRENT GOBAL SITUATION

We have been gathering a large amount of information on the current global situation. We talk about this every day, and a substantial part of our time is spent on research. The page we present here is an honest attempt to lay out what we know. We don't agree 100% with one another - and we regard this as healthy, as we listen carefully to one another's views or findings and then go back to continue to discover more.

Caveat 1: This is a research work in progress. We plan to update this page regularly. We're not trying to compel anyone to believe anything, or to do anything. We may not be correct in all we present. But we do believe that all the factors below need to be taken into account, and researched further, in major personal decision-making.

Caveat 2: We have a very positive and optimistic view. This reflects our essential natures. But we are also realists, and in our opinion actual situations on the ground need to be handled and confronted so that proper decisions can be made. Our position is that there's a balance to be drawn between thinking positively and refusing to be sucked into "doom and gloom" - and making oneself aware of real emerging situations, both possible and probable. To be forewarned is not to lose hope, spirit or optimism.

This balance is not easy to strike and is a matter of constant readjustment. In our opinion, the biggest enemy is fear itself. We are all immortal beings - this is a simple fact - and many of the people reading this will have a strong sense of purpose to position themselves to help others as best they can.

Our job, all working together, is to help the human race find its way through the minefield of potential booby traps to emerge at a better future. To walk this minefield blindly is in our view unwise. Better to have at least a partial map. This is our intention here.

Remember, energy follows thought. How you think about the future will affect the future you encounter. Our intent here is to list the potential obstacles which may be ahead - and at the same time encourage you to think for yourself. Listen to your heart in choosing what to do, where to go, and how to face the coming days.
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1) Overview

Our friend and important insider contact Henry Deacon has stated repeatedly, since we first met him, that the issue is that there are a number of simultaneously converging problems which combine to create an unprecedented global situation. From what we know, we agree.

Disagreement between researchers may sometimes only be because both have a partial picture. Maybe everyone is right... whatever they are particularly concerned about or focused on.

2) The so-called 'Controllers'

It's important to realize that the 'Controllers' - the Illuminati, the Committee of the Majority, and/or various alien groups - are not in control.

Deacon reports, credibly in our view, that not only is there no overarching mastermind group successfully running the planet, but that at agency, military and black project level there are many factions, vying for control, with many different agendas between them.

Some groups may be doing their best to help the situation, within their particular context. Deacon includes the secret space program in these, which he says is a kind of a lifeboat program for Planet Earth if it really does hit the cosmic iceberg.

Dan Burisch has also spoken of and written about an 'Ark', which was partially constructed on Earth and then transported to the Moon in case it should be needed. He has described graphically that at Area 51 there were interesting problems lifting and moving this extremely heavy object.

Meanwhile, it's credible that other factions may have a very destructive and manipulative agenda, such as to reduce the planet's population by any practicable means - from the covert release of pathogens to orchestrated war. We report on both of these possibilities below.

Other situations are naturally caused and are adding to the mix. We also report on those. There may, of course, be other scenarios which we are not aware of.

3) What the insiders are doing

... is protecting themselves. There is in our view compelling and credible evidence that for several decades there has been a large-scale, covert program to build a large number (possibly thousands worldwide) of deep underground bases, in some cases entire self-sufficient cities.

These have cost trillions of dollars and this has not been done for the fun of it. This has been the largest construction program in the known history of the human race, and has been under way for fifty years. It has been kept entirely secret, and is a response to a serious threat of some kind. Below, we present some possibilities for what that threat may be.

In our view it is ethically unconscionable that the public has not yet been told what is certainly well understood at the highest levels of the military and government. One of Project Camelot's purposes is to discover the nature of this threat and make it publicly known.

4) The Biggest Picture

What follows here is a simple summary of a complex and unbelievable array of events and factors. Please see The Big Picture for some more on this, which is also a work in progress.

In our view it is compelling that the American military learned of a major threat to the survival of the species - possibly as long ago as the late 1940s. Time-portal technology gained at least partially from our visitors (whether they are space travelers, or time travelers as we believe), convinced the military that a major future catastrophe was possible or probable.

In response, MJ-12 (or whichever appropriate executive committee) decided three things:

• To embark on protective measures immediately.
• To keep the knowledge under the highest degree of classification.
• To embark on an accelerated program of ET liaison and high-tech research in attempts to increase their control and avert the situation.

At least one faction of this group is also interested in facilitating the worst-case scenario out of self-interest and a desire for domination. This agenda is very much involved in population control/ elimination plans detailed, for example, in The Report From Iron Mountain.

5) What was observed

One source, which we have not yet reported, has told us that on 5 November, 1971, using a device called a chronovisor, the US Supreme Court Building in Washington, DC, was observed "under about a hundred feet of brackish water".

We do NOT know the date of the event which was observed here, nor what the incident was determined to be that had caused this event.

Dan Burisch has referred to the threat of a pole shift round about 2012 and how this information was learned from time-traveling future humans. We consider his testimony credible and important. Henry Deacon has substantiated this, as have several others (including the source mentioned above).

Similar leaks of classified information, warnings, dreams, intuitions and channeled messages by the thousand - as well as the well-known mystery of the Mayan calendar - all combine to give credence to the idea that in or around 2012 there will be (or was due to be) a major global catastrophe of some kind - in all probability a pole shift.

6) This has happened before

History is cyclical, and so are geology and the rise and fall of civilizations. The Great Flood is a myth recounted in nearly 100 cultures across the globe. Plato, a reliable, highly intelligent and conscientious historian, reported the drowning of Atlantis in graphic detail.

All over the world (and probably also on the Moon and Mars) there are cyclopean ruins which tell the very clear story of a great civilization which died. We may not be unique in the threat we face.

7) The catastrophe has been averted

According to Dan Burisch, in testimony which we regard as credible, the future humans' best evaluation of the catastrophe which befell their ancestors (i.e. us) was that it was caused by micro-wormholes in space-time which caused effects which were inadvertently and devastatingly amplified by man-made stargates and time-portal 'Looking Glass' devices.

Having been warned, the solution was therefore to decommission these devices - wherever they were, and whoever had them. Dan reports that this has been done.

According to information we have learned from Dan personally, and also reported on his blog, we are no longer on Timeline 2 (or 'T2') - the name given to the catastrophic timeline. Detailed investigation was done into this last summer (2007) and Dan has reported that we are (or were, as of November 2007) on 'Variant 83 of Timeline 1'.

"We should be okay", he wrote to us simply, a few weeks ago.

However, the recent assassination of Benazir Bhutto was quite unforeseen. This serves as a reminder that all information about possible and probable futures is far from static, and is continually subject to change.

Through our own consciousness, we are constantly affecting the world around us and as co-creators of the universe we are fully involved in determining future events. In Part 3 of our recent interview, Richard Hoagland states that he strongly believes we may be able to organize ourselves to do so with maximum positive effect. We fully support this.

It's important to note that there are very likely to be rogue groups actively working to influence timelines through the use of techniques learned from certain alien races and the use of advanced hyperdimensional physics. One deep black witness told us in the last few days (verifying the data in our recently posted book about the Antarctic 'New Berlin' base) that a group in Antarctica may well be involved in doing just this - as reflected by the mathematical formulae detailed at the end of that document.

8) Military thinking : don't give up the insurance policy

What is important to realize is that just because computer analyses of information gained from time-portal devices have shown that the coast seems to be clear, standard military thinking will still be to prepare for the worst for another five years. After all, they've been at this for two generations; what's another few years, just in case.

Hence the underground bases will continue to be stocked, and the secret space program will continue. Mars is being terraformed as we speak, so we understand - a harmonic echo of what happened on Timeline 2 which our descendents report, when one group, eventually to become the 'P52 Orions', fled the planet via the Moon and Mars to eventually colonize other star systems and continue the human race elsewhere.

9) No free lunch

However, Timeline 1 will still have its problems. The rest of this report will detail these, as best as we currently know or understand them. These can be subdivided and examined as follows:

• Rising sea levels and disturbed weather patterns.
• EMP spikes from increased solar activity (Solar Cycle 24).
• Geopolitical instability and risk of conflict.
• Economic instability and possible collapse of markets.
• Global pandemic.
• Political and societal problems in the US and elsewhere.
• 'Planet X'.
• False-flag 'alien invasion'.

10) Rising sea levels and disturbed weather patterns

The Greenland ice cap is melting at an accelerating rate, in defiance of carefully calculated models. Some climatologists, duly alarmed, now estimate that sea levels could rise as much as nine feet in the coming few years.

While infinitesimal on the global tape measure, nine feet is still enough to devastate seaboards and force hundreds of millions to relocate, creating unprecedented refugee crises and all the associated problems of food and water shortages, threats of disease, and local conflict - let alone the major economic effects on industrial production and infrastructure worldwide. Some entire nations, such as the Maldives, will simply cease to exist.

We have been actively encouraging friends of ours in Florida to consider relocating. Other areas, of course, are similarly vulnerable. The factors to consider here are that even if you are not personally affected by the sea and live miles (or hundreds of miles) inland, the country or area you are living in may experience a knock-on effect in terms of the economy, infrastructure, food supply, or migration of large numbers of people to wherever you are that will may change your life considerably.

This needs close monitoring as more public-sector research is done (as it is being done now, with great urgency). If this sea level rise does not occur, then of course all the above factors will not apply.

But: weather patterns will continue to become more unstable as global warming also accelerates - caused by solar activity, NOT carbon emissions. A warmer climate means warmer oceans - also heated up by increased undersea volcanic activity (see solar cycle 24 below).

Warmer oceans mean more hurricanes, typhoons and cyclones (all the same thing) - and also more rainfall. Some climatologists argue that increased rainfall means increased snowfall in northern latitudes and therefore the paradoxical possibility of a local ice age in certain locations, such as the northern parts of Europe, Russia and Canada.

Again, none of this is a civilization showstopper; but the same principles apply, inasmuch as there is likely to be mass migration of people forced to or wishing to relocate, and effects on food production and infrastructure. And this will definitely occur, as weather becomes more unstable and extreme worldwide.

11) EMP spikes from increased solar activity (solar cycle 24)

Solar Cycle 24 officially began on 4 January, 2008 - heading gradually and unstoppably towards its predicted maximum in... 2012. The significance here is that there is compelling evidence in the public domain that Solar Cycle 24 will become severe in its effects on the planet.

Everything we do here on Planet Earth is dependent on or linked to the sun. If the sun starts misbehaving, then none of us can escape the effects. Project Camelot was contacted in mid-2007 by a world-class scientist whose name would be recognized by many readers, contracted to the US government and operating under a Top Secret clearance. He was able to tell us that one of the problems facing us in the next few years ("starting in 2009") would be a CME (Corona Mass Ejection), and he compared this to the major solar event of 1859.

In 1859 there were spectacular auroras at all latitudes, but the world was not then dependent on electronics. Today such an event would bring down communications, disable satellites, ground aircraft, and (if sufficiently severe) fry all chips and circuits not adequately shielded. This would seem to be a major and real threat.

The danger here is not to people, but to the infrastructure. Commentators enjoy pointing out the obvious (as we must do here) - that such an event might catapult us all back to the mid-1800s, with the difference being that most of us would have no idea how to cope without electronics, vehicles, or even running water. Again, it's an infrastructure problem: no electronics means no pumps, which means no gas or water, which means no food unless it was locally grown, which means that many of us would be in big trouble.

The good news is that if a major CME was on its way, we would all get 6-48 hours warning - like a kind of solar tsunami. That's enough time to shield one's own electronics: wrap in aluminum foil and cloth, and/or bury them in the ground or take them deep into the basement.

Note, however, that in the event of a severe EMP all vehicle engines would be disabled unless they were old diesel cars or trucks with no engine management system. Henry Deacon has also advised us, repeatedly, to acquire and learn how to use ham radio - which in a worst case scenario might be the only way of communicating besides shouting out of one's window.

Many visitors to our site will realize that this fits perfectly with the testimony of our witness Dan Sherman, who was trained as a military telepath as part of Project Preserve Destiny - in preparation, as he was explicitly told, "for a future time in which all electromagnetic communications would be rendered useless".

We do NOT know whether this has been foreseen using time portal technology, nor do we know how our scientist source mentioned above knew of the claimed coming CME problem. He did not answer our immediate question about this, and simply apologized for not being able to say more.

He said we were "in for a very bad time". "I don't normally communicate with the public like I use to," he wrote. "I found that most people just can not handle the brutal truth very well."

This person also stated, clearly, that there would be a 2012 pole shift. But he may not have known that it had been averted (see 7 above). Or maybe it has not been! It's not possible to know exactly what the "bad time" was he was referring to... although one may guess.

Our best evaluation of this is that it does seem to be a definite risk that a sufficiently large solar 'spike' (what Ed Dames has overdramatically called The Kill Shot) would heavily disrupt infrastructure, transport and therefore food distribution. As so many have said, a degree of emergency self-sufficiency would seem smart.

As a final note, it must be said that some scientists are connecting solar activity with tectonic and geothermal activity - that is to say, volcanoes, earthquakes and (consequently) tsunamis. If these causalities are valid, the earth changes that so many have predicted may be ushered in by nothing more than our friendly, or not-so-friendly, sun.

12) Geopolitical instability and risk of conflict

Here, man's enemy may be man. There is ample evidence that there is a clear agenda for there to be a planned (long-planned) US military strike against Iran, justified in a number of ways that many regard to be hollow at best. This is legitimately worrying, and the last months of George Bush's term in office - like the danger presented by a cornered tiger - may be the most dangerous.

It's hard to evaluate this. There is some evidence that a strike was planned against Iran last summer (2007), but may have been averted by a small group of unknown and very brave airmen at Barksdale AFB. Synchronous with this, several unidentified but major stock market players bet $4.5 billion that the markets would fall drastically before 21 September 2007. This did not happen, and they lost their gamble. There was no strike, no war. Maybe we have been spared, as many believe.

It's important to realize that there are many games being played out behind the scenes. We're obliged to be vague about what we can say here, but we do know that not everyone in Washington or the Pentagon wants a nuclear war.

The NIE (National Intelligence Estimate) that was published on 2 December 2007, stating that Iran was not a threat, was one major attempt to literally spike Bush's guns and remove any justification for an attack. We cannot reveal details, but we do know this as a fact.

Shortly afterwards, Benazir Bhutto was assassinated. There's extremely strong reason to believe that she was 'removed' because one of her major purposes was to ensure that no major conflict broke out between Pakistan and India.

The only conclusion that can be drawn here is that all situations in the Middle to Far East remain unstable and dangerous. It has to be understood that there are factions - see (2) above - which may want there to be a nuclear exchange.

The reasons for this insanity (the only word that can be used) are unclear. It might be because this has been 'seen' (using time-portal technology) and therefore must be fulfilled; it might be Biblical ('the Armageddon thing'). It might be an attempt to reduce population. On the other hand, situations can be readily imagined in which Martial Law could be implemented in the US (and maybe other countries) as a response to a world which is suddenly a nuclear one again.

13) Economic instability and possible collapse of markets

Any of the above situations could precipitate economic instability or collapse. But with the US economy having a GDP of 14 trillion, and debts of 120 trillion, it is bankrupt already. The marked stock market slide of 22 January was the beginning (in our view) of a period of instability and global lack of confidence that will lead to the inevitable collapse of the dollar - and thereafter, the pound and the euro.

The sharp collapse will happen as soon as a major US corporation or bank announces that it has been obliged to fold. From what we understand, this is only a matter of time - weeks or months.

We talked with ex-banker and paradigm changer George Green about this. He predicted the stock market slide in mid-January (which has impressed us) and said that besides investigating buying land in South America (as many insiders are doing, he told us), he is liquidating all assets and holding small denominations of cash (nothing higher than $20 bills) and is buying silver coins.

George told us that silver ($16.50 an ounce at the time of writing) is the metal to buy - because it’s underpriced relative to gold and there’s a real world shortage, and it’s used and needed industrially in many ways. He stated that silver will soar to $40 and possibly even $100. We are paying close attention.

Gold and silver coins that one possesses oneself are the best 'currency'. Owning gold or silver bars in a bank vault (or worse, owning paper substitutes for a theoretical, non-physical purchase) is of no use at all if the bank is closed and one does not have a key.

14) Global pandemic

Avian flu is not a hoax. Avian ('Bird') flu is a genuine threat, and could easily be one reason for Martial Law. International flights could be stopped and a real pandemic can be used as an excuse/reason to stop anyone from traveling domestically also.

The infrastructure would also be decimated because few if anyone would risk going to work and many millions might die - far worse than in 1918. In 1918 the flu - which was also Avian flu, which not many realize - was 5-10% lethal. In 2008 it’s 60% lethal.

Dr Bill Deagle states in his December 2006 Granada Forum lecture that he is certain that the Controllers have engineered H5N1 (its medical name) from the 1918 strain with a deliberate intention of killing between 1 and 2 billion people. Henry Deacon has stated to us that he sat in meetings where the release of pathogens was planned in order to reduce population.

On the other hand, Dan Burisch, in response to this, has explicitly stated:

I am now (learned within the last few months) aware of such actions having been contemplated, now in the past, by representatives of the Illuminati. Such ideas were never brought to fruition, not because of their love for humanity, but as they judged it counterproductive for themselves. They were also threatened that should they attempt anything of such nature, they would be "acted upon" in a manner they would not find acceptable.

Quiet factions, including what is now the group in charge in the wake of the adjournment by the Majestic, during the consideration period by the Illuminati, were preparing to counter the actions by the Illuminati with the use of biologists, Federal Law Enforcement, and where necessary - outright force. 24/7/365 vigilance is ongoing. That is all I can publicly say about these issues. I am "extending myself" to this extent...but you have the right to know.

Regardless of whether H5N1 has been bioengineered, it is out there. Avian flu is in 90 countries at the time of writing (January 2008) and the only reason it’s not spreading is that people are dying too quickly - like Ebola fever. All it would take is two gene mutations (and there’s a huge viral mass) for it to go human to human, and after that all that is needed is a few resistant carriers - in other words, people traveling. If that all occurs, all this becomes a major part of what strategy to adopt.

The possible reasons for Martial Law need to be considered. A second 'false flag' 9/11 is one thing. A pandemic is quite another. The Controllers may be much more liable this time to go for something invisible to secure their objectives than another 9/11. Viruses can’t be analyzed on video replays... and they’re also real. Avian flu is not a trick.

The currently calculated chances of Avian flu becoming pandemic in any one year are 30% - a figure from the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta. If a pandemic occurs (a pandemic being a global epidemic), North America might be isolated by the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans, while Europe might be far more dangerous (being more densely populated and also directly connected to the Far East, where the two critical extra mutations are most likely to occur).

But in this scenario, expect draconian measures domestically in the US (and maybe other countries) to control or firewall against the viral threat. This may be one of the reasons why South America is now being considered a safe haven by so many insiders - for whom none of the above is any news at all.

15) Political and societal problems in the US and elsewhere

Followers of Alex Jones and Jeff Rense will have been aware for quite some time that there is strong reason to believe that there may be serious crackdowns on US civil liberties in the relatively near future.

This could not happen without an excuse (or a reason convincing enough for the population to capitulate), so speculation has been rife about what gambit to expect from the Controllers. Bill Deagle has stated that he has information that there are suitcase nukes pre-planted in 22 American cities, primed for another 'false flag' event (like 9/11, but more major, shocking and dramatic). This may or may not be accurate, but it reveals the possible thinking of the Controllers.

Project Camelot has a source, not so far published by us, who was involved in the Montauk experiments of the early 1980s. This person for several years has been talking about what he has called "The King George scenario", in which George Bush would remain in office due to a (falsified and engineered but convincing) National Emergency. We were approached about this in May 2007.

Astonishingly, our source insists that this was being planned in the 1980s - before one would imagine George W. Bush was ever thought of. Moreover, he has dated these events as being synchronous with food shortages and food riots in the US.

We did not publish this material in 2007, since no food riots seemed to be forthcoming and we were obliged to question the accuracy of the information. Researcher and food supply specialist Steve Shenk, however, has recently reported that food shortages, connected with drought and the collapse of bee colonies, are likely. This might be yet another reason, if any more were needed, not to get trapped at the wrong time in a major city.

The other reasons for civil unrest and/or Martial Law (a chicken-egg situation, of course) have already been detailed above: nuclear attack (the unthinkable option, whether staged or 'real'), or quarantine restrictions in the midst of a genuine pandemic.

Finally, we should say that in the recent Timeline 1 time-portal analysis, as per (7) above, we were told that George Bush does not remain in power - ceding the presidency to Hillary Clinton. We would like to say that you heard it here first... but you probably did not.

16) 'Planet X'

Last but not least! We have to say that we do not yet know what to make of this. We do believe that there is likely to be a massive object (of some kind, whether a rocky planet, a brown dwarf 'second sun', or even a small black hole) on an eccentric orbit (of some kind) which is being monitored closely by IRAS and the South Pole Telescope. But what that means, we do not ourselves know, and no insider has yet credibly told us.

We're aware that many intelligent people have done good research into this and have concluded that there's likely to be a major problem on its way - a little like rolling a giant bowling ball through the solar system, something which happens every few thousand (some say 3,600) years. This object does seem to exist - and may itself be doing its part, through electromagnetic and other forms of resonance, in exciting the sun to new levels of activity (see 11 above).

But whether this is the harbinger of destruction (or the harbinger of the Anunnaki, as some claim) is another question which we're not yet equipped to answer. Our Norwegian politician source, who reports personal experience of scenario planning for evacuating 40% of Norway's population underground in 2012, mentioned that "Planet X is coming"; but had no details, let alone scientific ones, and in fact he had no hard information of any kind about the reason for the very real and massive precautions that he insisted were well under way.

'Planet X' was simply what he had heard. We are convinced of the existence of the underground bases, but not of their purported raison d'etre in this instance. Far more likely, we think, that the forewarned 2012 pole shift was the justification for all the heavy and secret activity.

It's even possible that 'Planet X' may be disinformation. Not the existence of what Bill Deagle calls a "hypergravitational object", but its likely effects. Its reality might be the factual part of the disinformation, and the destructive effects the false part - thereby playing neatly into legend. It's extremely hard for us to say.

Our stance, as always, is to keep an open mind and to gather more information from every source. And one thing 2008 will bring is more information. Of all the probabilities and possibilities discussed on this page, the greatest odds of all are that that we will learn a very great deal more in the coming months.

17) False-flag 'alien invasion'

We list this simply because this scenario has been discussed on the internet, some calling this Project Blue Beam. There is much to be read about it, almost all of which is speculation with little firm evidence or whistleblower testimony (one noted exception being that of Dr Carol Rosin, speaking on behalf of her old colleague and mentor, Dr Wernher von Braun).

Project Camelot has no information about this and cannot comment at this stage. It has not been mentioned by any of our own witnesses.

18) Summary

At the very top of the page, we remarked:

Our job, all working together, is to help the human race find its way through the minefield of potential booby traps to emerge at a better future. To walk this minefield blindly is in our view unwise. Better to have at least a partial map. This is our intention here.

The above summary analysis (and it really is just a summary) marks out where some of the landmines may be. The largest of these, the 2012 pole shift, may well have been handled. This is the good news. But there are plenty of other ways to accidentally end up in the wrong place at the wrong time. That's why a map of the minefield is not a bad idea.

Our intention is not to convince or persuade, but to inform in such a way as to enhance each reader's ability to make responsible decisions for themselves and their families.

This has been our position from the start: to report what we feel is credible, potentially important, and possibly under-reported. Whatever we do, we're committed to the truth, but without any dogma or doctrine apart from the fact that the truth stands on its own, for better or for worse. It is the way it is, as the Buddhist master patiently explained.

Our best advice:

• Look within, and educate yourselves and those around you.
• Be patient with skeptics or those who are afraid (often the same thing).
• Follow no leaders.
• Stay open and flexible in every way.
• Create and be the change you want to see.
• Remember that we co-create the future every moment of every day.

Some of these situations may transpire, while others may not. Time will sort out which is which. Our own commitment is to learn as much as we can, and then to share it. That's what Camelot is all about.

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"Now They See It, Now We Won't" - Part II

Thanks for sharing that, Dex. (I just lost about an hours'-long post, so am having to re-create it.) I agree with most of the above, simply on the face of logic. But - as you might have suspected - I have to take exception to the following:

Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy, writing for their Project Spook-A-Lot website, wrote:
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7) The catastrophe has been averted

And we know this.....how?

According to Dan Burisch, in testimony which we regard as credible,

Bill. Kerry. Whoa. Big leap of faith. What causes you to believe the testimony as 'credible'? Are you able to discern between what Dan may have experienced first-hand and a message he was told by an ET who may have had a vested interest in pimping out Rosy Scenario? What better a carrier for a paradigm that wouldn't see justice met? Any intelligent creature that had the ability to supposedly travel through time and appeared at minimum able to travel through space and across dimensional lines would surely have access to any technology necessary for his or her survival far in excess of what present-day humanity is capable of.

the future humans' best evaluation of the catastrophe which befell their ancestors (i.e. us) was that it was caused by micro-wormholes in space-time which caused effects which were inadvertently and devastatingly amplified by man-made stargates and time-portal 'Looking Glass' devices.

And you have seen these devices, seen photos, actual blueprints, a detailed explanation given that would use science verifiable by our own specialists? For such a claim as being able to see into the future (like the device shown in the movie "Paycheck" - how convenient to have friends in control of Hollywood studios and their ability to mold public perceptions) is NOT a verifiable one, but can easily be envisioned as a product of an advanced race that was able to tap into the consciousness of all Earth (read all our minds) and thereby make remarkably accurate predictions simply by virtue of an awareness we can only dream of.

Having been warned, the solution was therefore to decommission these devices - wherever they were, and whoever had them. Dan reports that this has been done.

"Now He Sees It, Now We Have To Take His Word For It."

According to information we have learned from Dan personally, and also reported on his blog, we are no longer on Timeline 2 (or 'T2') - the name given to the catastrophic timeline. Detailed investigation was done into this last summer (2007) and Dan has reported that we are (or were, as of November 2007) on 'Variant 83 of Timeline 1'.

Bill. Kerry. There's an excellent book out, available on Amazon.com for under $10, titled "The Emperor Who Wore No Clothes." It's a fictional rendering of Dan's early life as a tailor, when he was producing reports fit for a majestic king out of T1v83 thread, a fine gossamer thread that produced such a fine fabric it was all but unassailable through rational discussion. Unofficial reports were disallowed, and branded as heretical. Video burnings at the stake took place, too, from what I understand. Highly recommended reading.

"We should be okay", he wrote to us simply, a few weeks ago.

Yes, that's why they went to such an expense as an Ark in the first place. Since "we should be okay", it really didn't warrant such a huge chunk of the budget, isn't that right Dan? Any craft that could escape Earth's gravity was to be kept for the personal evacuation of the more important members of the power elite (er, the better to make sure someone got out alive), right? But since "we should be okay", might as well show the photographs and put the thing on a city-by-city tour at $5 a head to view it up-close, could help lower the national deficit, isn't that pragmatic? What's that you say, we're "not out of the woods yet"? Saturday we will be greeted with yet another fine, gossamer construction of a date that was suddenly found, a very important one, but one that isn't important anyway, right?

"Now He Tells Us, Now We Don't (care)."


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I really don't know what to make of all this speculation and leaked info - 2012, catastrope or not? Poleshift or not? ET saves the day ...or not? Who is in control, or is it all a total shambles behind the scenes of the power-elite while we poor plebs flap around in ignorance?

If Bush/Majestic/Iluminati were responsible for 9/11 (or at least complicit by non-action to prevent it!) and were debating leaching killer Avian flu virus that is more sickening and frightening than any disaster movie. We need no Christian vision of a devil while we have people of that mind-set alive and in places of influence on this planet. They fulfill the brief adequately!

What to believe? A lot of the leaked info is, by it's nature, unverifiable so has to be taken on trust to a degree.

There's a lot of evidence that 'something is going on' - but what? Or is it a whole range of natural and manipulated crises coming to a head at the same time, as Camelot suggest?

I have no answers, for one.

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Wow, at some of the things cross posted from SNEDS, something else, I just don't have words for such utter stupidy or ignorance or insanity or whateverword might attempt to try to describe some of that, possibly just plain ole 'lies' maybe?????


Dondep, your perceptions are as astute as always, lol



The Ferret, your post sums up my own thoughts and sentiments on much of it also. It gets to the point to where one wonders is it memorex or what?


With so much going on on the political scene also, the lies, deceits, deceptions, the play acting by many, makes one wonder if we have adults in government or a bunch of adolescent actors? And the BS on that front never ceases.


I was watching a segment of Startrek Voyager last night where this alien race came after the crew and caused them to go into a deep sleep and they couldn't wake up and all of the enslavement that occurred during the same dreamtime they were all experiencing and had them all caught into this realm and they couldn't get out until Chekotay saved the day, had a lucid dream and had himself set to tap on his hand 3 times to come out of it, only to find out he went to another level of this dream time and then finally he awoke and somehow saved the day!!! Captain Janeway figured out they were in the dreamtime and she helped save her crew. Who is going to help save planet earth in todays time frame though?????????????

It makes me wonder if something similar to this scenario is actually occurring right here on earth now and one hell of a deception going on that we all think is real when in actuality it is all a dream!!! Is this why so many say that this is all an illusion and is not the real reality? Who knows any more.

If things get much more crazier then it is no telling what will happen, but if this is all one hell of a dream I do wish I could wake out of it because I am just fed up with it all. lololol Unreal, and maybe it all really is!!!!!!




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The Ferret wrote:
I have no answers, for one.

same here.

brightstar wrote:
If things get much more crazier then it is no telling what will happen, but if this is all one hell of a dream I do wish I could wake out of it because I am just fed up with it all. lololol Unreal, and maybe it all really is!!!!!!
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1- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BORmMu1quo

2- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPUH4-mCpX0

3- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k1UgOxBytc

4- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WSGwnz7XpY

5- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BORmMu1quo

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Cross posting:

Dear friends, I am new in this group.

I would like to share with you a book that I love; its title is "Hercolubus or Red Planet".

It informs about a Planet called Hercolubus that comes to the Earth, and the terrible consequences of that.

In this book you will also find the key to get the Astral Travel, and the way to delete your inner psychological defects to increase your conscience level.

The book also explains the extraterrestrial life in Mars and Venus, and that extraterrestrials will help us in the last moment saving people that have a minimum conscience level to pass to the next humanity without contaminate them.

In fact to become conscious is the more important for me.

Because a conscious person is really a free person because he knows all dimensions, so he knows the Truth without limits.

A conscious person has the Wisdom of the Heart.

You can get free this book in the page:

www.hercolubus.tv

I hope you enjoy it as me.



(Note: I'll never forget Hercolubus being mentioned by a female ET named Rama from Ganymede in the book "Date with Gods." I ask myself, why would they lie to us about this?...Hmm...Dex)


Introduction
I have written this book with great sacrifice, lying in bed unable to sit up or stand. But seeing the need to warn Humanity of the coming cataclysm, I made a great effort.

I dedicate this message to Humanity, as a last resort, because there is nothing else to do.

(V.M. Rabolú)




"There are large, very deep cracks along the seabed, which are already making contact with the fire within the Earth. This is happening precisely because of nuclear tests that the scientists and the powers (that believe they are powers) are conducting

The nuclear tests and the ocean
"The fire within the Earth has already begun to make contact with the water, and cyclones have started to appear. North Americans call it "The El Niño Phenomenon". It is not El Niño, it is contact between the fire within the Earth and the water, and this is spreading throughout the ocean."


The Astral unfolding
"As we speak about the astral, I want to ask you whether you have dreamed about people who passed away years ago, about people and places you do not know physically. This is what people call common everyday dreams: "Last night I dreamt such a thing." However, nobody stops to think about why they have dreamed about other regions or places, while the physical body was resting in bed.

This is the Astral Plane or Fifth Dimension, where neither weight nor distances exist, and to which the Astral Body belongs. This is a body exactly like the physical, it is energy, which moves at great speeds like a thought and is able to inverstigate everything we wish in the Universe."


The extraterrestrials
"Just as they are doing with Hercolubus, which is rapidly approaching Earth, downgrading it (even daring to state its weight and mass) so they have done with extraterrestrials by distorting them as gorillas, as animals. This is a big lie, one hundred percent false, because the inhabitants of the other planets of our solar system and our galaxy are superior humans and wise beings."

"I have been in contact with extraterrestrials many times. I have been to Venus and Mars by consciously travelling in my Astral Body and I can bear witness to these marvelous inhabitants. I can not find words to describe their wisdom, their culture and the angelic life that they live."


Hercolubus or Red planet
"When Hercolubus comes closer to the Earth and aligns with the Sun, deadly epidemics will begin to spread over the entire planet. Neither doctors nor official science will know what sort of illnesses they are or how to cure them.


V.M. Rabolú (1926 - 2000) was born in Tolima (Colombia). In 1952 he finds true Knowledge and by means of long years of esoteric practices he manages to develop extraordinary capacities which transforms him into a spiritual guide of international renown.

Knowing the future which awaits us, he was always devoted to teaching humanity the formulas for spiritual regeneration. Thus, from the Seventies, and always in an altruistic and uninvolved way, he began an untiring task of public disclosure of the true Wisdom within the international framework, by means of conferences, courses, congresses, etc.

During the year 1998, he writes "Hercolubus or Red planet". While being based on its direct and conscious experiment, V.M. Rabolú describes the terrible events which will happen on our planet in short-term, and shows the way to be followed to obtain major transformation of the human being. Nowadays, the assertions contained in this work have the recognition of a multitude of readers who benefitted from this knowledge in more than 40 countries.

V.M. Rabolú was one of those people with the Awakened Conscience, and his lessons have become essential in this time, when materialism and the lack of values were transformed into the distinctive signs of an ever more lost society.


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Hi. I'm new. I've been trying to make sense of Dan Burisch for quite some time now. It's hard to get a straight answer on the subject on the other Golden Thread. I even got kicked off the first day there by asking this question:

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I'm new here. I started chasing the white rabbit two summers ago. I was in DC standing smack in alignment between the White House and Jefferson Memorial and in alignment between the Capitol and Lincoln Memorial and got struck by this deep realization that something is very fishy about this whole set up. But the more I researched, the more deeper I fell down the rabbit hole. Unfortunately, ending up here just makes it all even more complicated. Ugh!

Anyone got a simple answer to it all? Like in one post and without links?


I thought the proverbial "rabbit hole" was clear to anyone involved with conspiracy theories. But I got a defensive "what-do-you-mean" response. Now that I found this "Golden Thread," I understand their paranoia about my asking a simple question.

Any answers here?


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Sorry... Posted that previous post before being able to finish it...

What's I mean is, what's really the scoop behind Majestic-12, the Freemasons and Illuminati, Stargates, Aliens, etc. There's so much disinformation mixed in with everything, it's hard to get a grasp of what's going on.

To clarify belief systems between the two Golden Threads, can someone summarize the two?

1. What does Burisch believe on the subject?

2. What does this forum believe on the subject?

Just trying to come up to speed.


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What's I mean is, what's really the scoop behind Majestic-12, the Freemasons and Illuminati, Stargates, Aliens, etc. There's so much disinformation mixed in with everything, it's hard to get a grasp of what's going on.

To clarify belief systems between the two Golden Threads, can someone summarize the two?

1. What does Burisch believe on the subject?

2. What does this forum believe on the subject?

Just trying to come up to speed.


Those are loaded questions, PB (short for your 'PenguinBrigade', if that's okay....or is 'Penguin' preferable for a short form?) It'll take some time for 1., (not that we can be definitive; he's a slippery one when it comes to what he believes in at any current moment) and as for 2., there isn't one set "belief" on this subject among the posters here. In fact, it's taken us over 5 years already and though many of us are a lot closer to understanding things, we still don't all agree on the answers. (That's one of the hallmarks of this forum; many different beliefs are expressed here, and so long as you treat the other posters the way you would expect to be treated if others don't believe you then you'll be fine here.) Even Majestic 12 wasn't of the same opinion apparently when it came to the "real scoop", though they were certainly aware of the treaties they thought they were signing on our behalf - the arrogance!

I'll be back on later to put together a thumbnail summary of what I have come to understand, and my own personal view of it.

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The Top-10 Conspiracy Theories From AboveTopSecret.com

The Top-Ten Conspiracy Theories
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Over the past several years, the Internet has become fertile ground for the discussion, creation, and evolution of various "alternative points of view," more popularly known as "conspiracy theories." The combination of near-zero cost-of-entry required to build an opinionated website with the high availability of collaborative discussion forums have created what some call a renaissance for conspiracy theorists. Ranging from ludicrous and uninformed flights of fancy to thought-provoking essays of brilliant research, the sheer volume of online conspiracy "chatter" is a testament to the incredible number of people who are dissatisfied with the "official" answers to provocative questions.

With over three-million visits a month from those dissatisfied answer-seekers, AboveTopSecret.com has emerged as the largest and most popular web site where conspiracy theories of all kinds are created, examined, debunked, filtered, and matured. We turned to our members and visitors to review all of history's conspiracies, compared with contemporary conspiracies, and created a top-ten list of their most important conspiracy theories. Some of the topics in the list will be as familiar as an old friend, others will be a surprise, and one or two are completely unexpected. After 159,620 votes on 53,195 completed ballots from 29,112 people during a six-day period, here are the top-ten most important conspiracies:

10: The United States Shadow Government
A little-publicized executive order during the Reagan administration created the National Program Office which established a secret national security team outside the traditional branches of the government. This new agency with a reported multi-billion dollar budget was headed up by covert operations loyalist Oliver North, and included then Vice-President George Bush (Sr.), Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld (who was not part of the administration at the time)...

9: Controlling Hearts & Minds Through Organized Religion
Martin Luther in the 16th century, with his Ninety-Five Theses, may have been the first well-documented conspiracy theory author. The Christian Reform Movement began from concern over widespread commercial corruption in the Catholic Church...

8: The Suppression of Alternative And Free Energy Sources
One need only look at the debacle of the EV-1 Electric Car, and how the oil industry and big-auto (at the time) colluded with the government to kill a superior product to understand how similar alternative energy products and ideas have been systematically buried or outright killed...

7: A Significant Global Catastrophe Will Happen In December, 2012
The ancient Mayans possessed a sophisticated culture with a unique perception of the universe and the role of the planets in cosmic events. Scholars studying the Mayans have found startling accuracy within the Mayan Calendar as it tracked days and weeks in comparison with astronomical data and events, and which is more precise than the Julian calendar. But the disconcerting discovery is that this highly accurate and painstakingly prepared calendar of cosmic events has an end date of 2012, beyond which no data exists...

6: The Cover-Up Of Alien Technology Research at Area 51
Few government installations inspire more speculation and flights of fancy than the most public of secret government facilities, Area 51 in Groom Lake, Nevada. Known to be the testing facility for the ultra-secret "Skunk Works" projects that gave birth to advanced technologies such as the stealth aircraft, this highly-guarded location is the stuff of conspiracy legend...

5: The Collapse of the Global Economy Was A Controlled Demolition
In the first half of the previous century, people's financial savings were almost exclusively tied up in bank savings, pensions, and personal real estate (homes). Since those three simple vehicles for building or sustaining personal prosperity were not easily controlled or manipulated by the "powers that be," new methods were required to shift the finances from those relatively static, uncontrollable sources, to a more fluid and easily manipulated destination, the stock market. As a result, the government created and promoted several methods of "saving for retirement" that were tied to equity markets. Over time, an epic shift of wealth storage occurred that gave rise to huge global "investment banks" and drove equities indexes to unthinkable highs...

4: The Assassination of John F. Kennedy
Many consider the assassination of JFK as a pivotal event that was the catalyst for evolving the culture of the United States from one of optimism to that of skepticism. It's a defining moment as arguably the first time where major segments of the population found reason to reject the "official story." From that moment on, distrust in the government began to fester with measurable impact, and the popularization of the term "conspiracy theorist" began to take root...

3: The Attacks on September 11, 2001
The basic premise behind 9/11-related conspiracy theories are relatively simple: elements within the United States government either made possible the events of the day, or turned a blind eye so as to allow the attacks to happen unhindered. The core notion is very similar to the conspiracy theories surrounding the attacks on Pearl Harbor. But compounding these theories are two disturbing items: 1) The discovery of Project Northwoods which was a 1962 Joint Chiefs of Staff plan to inflict civilian casualties with hijacked aircraft as a pretext to invade Cuba, and 2) Conspiracy theory "chatter" during the spring of 2001 that a "false flag" terrorist attack on American soil was imminent. When conspiracy theorists discover alarming coincidences that include key "Shadow Government" members at action stations the morning of 9/11, previous plans drafted by the government to do exactly what happened on 9/11, and growing rumors of a terrorist attack that will be used as a pretext for war, the speculation begins in earnest....

2: The Cover-Up of Extraterrestrial Visitation and Their Space Craft
Many respected scientists, politicians, and journalists have become convinced of compelling evidence that not only have we been visited by extraterrestrial beings, our government is actively pursuing collaborative projects in exchange for access to advanced technology. Several declassified government documents provide tantalizing clues of active programs designed to retrieve fallen alien space craft, research into extraterrestrial technologies, and cover-stories for various sightings of aerial craft of fantastic operation....

1: The Secret Cabals Working Toward a Global One-World Government
In many ways, this is the core concept from which many other conspiracy theories spring forth. The "New World Order" is the fabled end-game for the power-hungry global elite that many believe are behind the events that have shaped history and current events. The core theory speculates that long-standing bloodlines and banking families have entered secret arrangements to consolidate power and influence via a global one-world government....



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Hi, PenguinBrigade, I'll briefly attempt to answer your first question, although Don is the authority on this subject. I'll give my take on your second question later. As Don has said, quite a few members of this forum are old-timers when it comes to the Burisch saga. Nodstar's GT appears to contain posters who naively accept Dan Burisch's testimony as the word of God, and without question; they remind me of how some of us used to be back in 2005 when Dan_B officially made himself public on the forums (outside of Godlike Productions during the 2003 timeframe, which I personally wasn't a part of). A lot of us here accept that Burisch had worked at S4, Area51, and had interacted with a JRod alien, but many here today question his testimony about stargates, timelines, the future human explanation for ETs, and other related matters.

{EDIT: I've just taken a look in at Nodstar's GT (SR) and the majority of posters there rarely discuss Burisch or his data at all -- it's mostly New Agey cut and paste jobs}

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What's I mean is, what's really the scoop behind Majestic-12, the Freemasons and Illuminati, Stargates, Aliens, etc. There's so much disinformation mixed in with everything, it's hard to get a grasp of what's going on.

1. What does Burisch believe on the subject?

Aliens are human-lineage extraterrestrials or "future" humans, although it seems that Dan Burisch now accepts that there are other real ETs here as well, not related to us in any way. He got the MJ-9 seat temporarily in MJ-12 as a result of a bet between Dick Cheney (MJ-2) and former DNI Mike McConnel (MJ-1, or "Dadmiral"), but he didn't become a mason like the majority of members of Majestic 12, and sat as "his own man". He's fully aware of the Illuminati, having had dealings with them in the past, and has been hostile towards them until fairly recently. As for Stargates, they're very real to Burisch (you can hear him talking about them in his Project Camelot interviews) and these devices were disabled in countries like Iraq and Libya about 4-5 years ago to prevent a poleshift in a future timeline that kills billions of people on earth.


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Even Majestic 12 wasn't of the same opinion apparently when it came to the "real scoop", though they were certainly aware of the treaties they thought they were signing on our behalf - the arrogance!

I'll be back on later to put together a thumbnail summary of what I have come to understand, and my own personal view of it.


That's interesting you mention that Don. One of the items at the time, not currently, Majestic disagreed with Hurtak about was that they believed he got his physics right, but, wasn't sure about his information.

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Yes, there has been some earthquake activity reported to Eagles Disobey. There is always some earthquake activity. Such present activity is not believed linked to any truly catastrophic event (like T2).

All invited members from the former Majestic and the New Group have assembled in the Las Vegas Valley. A meet and greet session with them has just concluded. They will be likely enjoying the Las Vegas nightlife tonight, tomorrow night, then a coffee meeting has been called by Dan with them for late Friday night, several hours before the early morning (Pacific Time) meeting. They have been told where to assemble, for the private location information of the late night coffee meeting.


Uncle John here: I wonder how many pairs of socks each puppet brought?

I wonder what they will put in the coffee to keep them up for the early morning meeting?


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..............from another forum ...........

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Subject: Re: THE MOMENT HAS ARRIVED -- Dan Burisch


Somewhere on this thread OR somewhere we were discussing Dan Burisch and the TV show on ABC Lost. Dan talked in the interview I watched about Looking Glass technology and how it was given to humanity by space aliens back in 1946.

In tonight's episode of Lost, they talk about the Looking Glass and are back into the 70's doing the time traveling these guys are going through constantly. Anyway, towards the end, a big banner says NAMASTE and the leader pronounces the word to them at the Dharma initiative camp. OMG did that hit a cord with me!

................... it shocked the hell out of me to see it written across the banner. Where is ABC going with this show? Is looking glass technology--the ability to time travel a reality? Are we meeting our own selves in what we think are dreams? Is this show a confirmation that we have lived before and will live again?



after I* [ Tex ] C&Ped the post and reposted it at yet another forum , I received this email from a friend ....

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As a Lost fan..,

I found your post about Lost/Burisch very interesting.

As I have a few days off work now, I've hunted down the stuff I was sent a few years back.

Here's the heading..

Status Set for classification
Sector 4 Pavilion Bay1 Unit 2
Project Lotus (Staar Flower) Year 2002
From Dan B. Catselas Burisch Ph.D
To Representitive, Committe of the Majority

This report is predicated on all previous Project Lotus data



Now, there are 18 pages and I've never managed to get past page 14 without losing the plot.

I'd be interested to know if any of these words are used in Lost....seed, fruit, Petal, Ark, Frenchman, Genesis, Pearl, Shiva Linga, Ganesh, Vishnu.

Well, that's a flip through the first few pages. Remote viewing experiments too.

"Perfection and renewal is Gods gift thru the Lotus to give us a second chance".


Keep sleuthing, it's fascinating stuff.



That group of words IS being used on the show. In the series ...the characters have recently been dealing with "the petal" ( of an 'orchid') , an entrance way to a stargate.

There's another new installment of the show , shortly , tonight ...so I reserve comment for now.


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Dondep wrote:

Those are loaded questions, PB (short for your 'PenguinBrigade', if that's okay....or is 'Penguin' preferable for a short form?)


Penguin would be fine.

Dondep wrote:
Even Majestic 12 wasn't of the same opinion apparently when it came to the "real scoop", though they were certainly aware of the treaties they thought they were signing on our behalf - the arrogance!


Yes, it was arrogant -- AND stupid -- of them. Take away the checks and balances of democracy and you have corruption run amok. And of course, Majestic 12 was fooled into accepting a Trojan Horse. Elitists always think they know better than the public.

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I'll be back on later to put together a thumbnail summary of what I have come to understand, and my own personal view of it.


Thanks. That would be appreciated.


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.....but he didn't become a mason like the majority of members of Majestic 12, and sat as "his own man". He's fully aware of the Illuminati, having had dealings with them in the past, and has been hostile towards them until fairly recently.


That's the confusing part: The Illuminati and Mason connection. With one I associate with Satanic ritual killings and Monarch programming. And the other one I associate with the Shriners and their good deeds. Must be a deliberate "disassociate." Tilt, tilt!! Such a contradiction.

In any event, can anything good come out of Majestic 12? If so, can it be trusted? I mean, the Illuminati plays both sides. So can a pro-Majestic group or a anti-Majestic group be trusted?

See what I mean about chasing white rabbits into rabbit holes?


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TSK TSK TSK !!!!! ;D

Another HAMFISTED attempt from the stupid idiot club.. ROTF lMAO


Uncle John here: Quite original nodstar. Look at this and see if you can claim it as your own?

http://www.towardtheone.com/


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PenguinBrigade wrote:
I thought the proverbial "rabbit hole" was clear to anyone involved with conspiracy theories. But I got a defensive "what-do-you-mean" response. Now that I found this "Golden Thread," I understand their paranoia about my asking a simple question.

Any answers here?


Uncle John here: The first answer is that I pray that all good posters on the golden thread to wish kindness to all new posters on the thread.

From me to you, PenguinBrigade, I wish your life to be filled, both receiving and giving, with kindness.

That said, fasten your safety belt!


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