My impression is that he deliberately tries to obfuscate matters rather than clarify matters. Sort of like what a lawyer does in order to leave room for "I-didn't-mean-that" statements later on. It's hard to believe a person like that, especially when he says he wants the general public to know what he knows. Too many contradictions. Too much deliberate confusion.

In any event, can anything good come out of Majestic 12? If so, can it be trusted? I mean, the Illuminati plays both sides. So can a pro-Majestic group or a anti-Majestic group be trusted?

My impression is that he deliberately tries to obfuscate matters rather than clarify matters. Sort of like what a lawyer does in order to leave room for "I-didn't-mean-that" statements later on. It's hard to believe a person like that, especially when he says he wants the general public to know what he knows. Too many contradictions. Too much deliberate confusion.

That's par for the course when you're dealing with a group of people who employ various levels of deception and even self-deception. That's not to say that there aren't many truths in what Burisch says, there are, but the contradictions in some elements of his account turn people away and make them write off the entire saga, which is a huge mistake in my opinion. Dan_B's a product of Majestic top-down programming, but there's a side to him that has defiantly stuck his two fingers up at his (former) Majestic masters. He's been an Eagle that has disobeyed...some of the time. Who knows, that might explain some of the contradictions.

"Apparently when they (scientists working for MJ-12) bombard (the stable form of) Element 115 with enough electromagnetism, the stuff repels gravity and it turns into some sort of exotic matter. They spin it fast enough, it opens where they can see through it and that is, from what I understand, the great prize of what is going on in the world right now  are those devices (which can be used for time travel)." - Dan Burisch

That was from an interview in June 2003 when he was allowed to meet with Bill Hamilton and Linda Moulton-Howe. His stories more recently about how "time-travel" was allegedly effected are far different, bearing only the slightest resemblance to those comments of 6 years ago.

Every single one of us has wanted a cliff-notes layout that sums up the salient points and answers the most pertinent questions.

In essence, a group of humans that have come to be known as the 'Illuminati' - mostly wealthy members of a handful of families that go back thousands of years and controlling the institutions that manipulate social mores and values - has used their awareness of the true nature of our reality to maintain their control and further their interests in exploiting the lot of the common man, particularly as it applies to the cyclic poleshift mechanism. An excellent source of awareness of this comes from the 'Kolbrin Bible', which is a compendium of ancient accounts of previous poleshifts (including the one that occurred as Moses was leading the slaves out of Egypt; the Christian Bible's sanitized version of that story had the most relevant data eliminated).

As for 'stargates'. This aspect has been used to justify the Iraq war to the naive "lunatic fringe" (the 'interested few' that know 9/11 isn't what the public has been led to believe, that there are indeed such things as aliens, etc) and to those of us here in particular. In the Burisch 'saga', we were told in late 2003 that we invaded Iraq to capture one of these 'stargates', so that we could prevent Saddam from turning it on and thereby helping to precipitate the poleshift . I'm sorry, but that entire paradigm just never resonated with me. There has never been a satisfying explanation for these 'stargates'; for instance, why would a just and merciful Creator allow bamboozlers like Majestic to time-travel, or even to witness it? Furthermore, how could "time-travellers" be so sophisticated as to be able to travel through time but then require the assistance of a primitive human microbiologist to 'fix' his neuropathy (supposedly due to time-travelling), particularly one who had taken part in bio-warfare experimentation? Does that sound like the hallmark of the true Creator, or some false wannabes? I ask that rhetorically, but you get my point.

Which leads me to my point about the two 'factions' of aliens that Majestic has been torn between. One, what I call the "STS" faction, broke the quarantine that Earth is under because they knew that there would be a massive soul harvest following the poleshift, and wanted to position themselves to secure the larger part of that harvest. They then arranged a 'crash', to gain the trust of the humans in power at the time. (That would be the 1941 Missouri 'crash'.) The "STO" faction then complained to the elders of our galactic neighborhood, who agreed to allow them to make contact in the same manner, which they then did with the famous 'Roswell crash'. These folks Majestic soon referred to as rogues, because they refused to give assurances they could deliver or even promise highly-advanced war machinery, including 'flying saucers'. Majestic was more interested in following the STS ETs down the primrose path to promises of glory, using powerful war-saucers to scare the bejeezus out of any potential threat to the almight US. Also, they warned Majestic of what was/is coming down the pike. While they gave a more realistic appraisal, it was the "STS" zetans that promised the 'bad thing' could, just maybe, be avoided. Enter Dan Burisch and Marcia McDowell, and their 'mission' that was set years before they were born.

Interesting. I've only vaguely come across Element 115 in my research. To clarify: Element 115 propells flying saucers AND time travel "devices" (stargates)?

The Kolbrin Bible intrigues but I never pursued that line of inquiry. (I will now that you recommend it) I reasoned that if it's Truth with a capital T, then why is it for sell and not just linked for free?

Why would a just and merciful Creator allow Majestic to bamboozle us? Two reasons:
1. So not to violate the principle of free will.
2. Interferring would acknowledge the deceit of the aliens as part of His reality, thereby making it a permanent part of His design.

My understanding is that the first meeting/treaty offer was by STO aliens and the Roswell group was the STS that offered technology. And that this second group was the same group that originally worked with Hitler... which brings into question the Paperclip/Nazi influence in this whole story.

http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0309/ufo-orb.php

EXCLUSIVE: UFO ORB WITH ALIEN MOTHER SHIP ... PHOTO MAY BE THE BEST
IMAGE EVER CAPTURED! WILL ALIEN SHIPS LIKE THESE BE HERE TO RESCUE "THE
CHOSEN FEW" WHEN 2012 DECIMATES EARTH's BULGING POPULATION?! WILL THE
"CHOSEN" BE THE "GLOBAL ELITE" or CHILDREN AS PORTRAYED IN THE #1 BOX
OFFICE THRILLER, "KNOWING"?

NOTE: Thermo Image of Gold Orb, surrounded by a Red Plasma Corona.
The Blue light beyond the top Orb is the Mother Ship, in the photo's
below we will enlarge and enhance. Original Photo, permission and
copyright Christine Dickey.

[See BELOW for related story.]
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http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg2 ... ?full=true

Click BELOW for the video on THE END OF THE WORLD in 2012 AD!

http://www.newscientist.com/articlevide ... rophe.html



IT IS MIDNIGHT on 22 September 2012 and the skies above Manhattan are
filled with a flickering curtain of colourful light. Few New Yorkers
have seen the aurora this far south but their fascination is
short-lived. Within a few seconds, electric bulbs dim and flicker, then
become unusually bright for a fleeting moment. Then all the lights in
the state go out. Within 90 seconds, the entire eastern half of the U.S.
is without power.

A year later and millions of Americans are dead and the nation's
infrastructure lies in tatters. The World Bank declares America a
developing nation. Europe, Scandinavia, China and Japan are also
struggling to recover from the same fateful event -- a violent storm,
150 million kilometres away on the surface of the sun.

It sounds ridiculous. Surely the sun couldn't create so profound a
disaster on Earth. Yet an extraordinary report funded by NASA and issued
by the US National Academy of Sciences (NAS) in January this year claims
it could do just that.

Over the last few decades, western civilisations have busily sown the
seeds of their own destruction. Our modern way of life, with its
reliance on technology, has unwittingly exposed us to an extraordinary
danger: plasma balls spewed from the surface of the sun could wipe out
our power grids, with catastrophic consequences.

The projections of just how catastrophic make chilling reading. "We're
moving closer and closer to the edge of a possible disaster," says
Daniel Baker, a space weather expert based at the University of Colorado
in Boulder, and chair of the NAS committee responsible for the report.

It is hard to conceive of the sun wiping out a large amount of our
hard-earned progress. Nevertheless, it is possible. The surface of the
sun is a roiling mass of plasma -- charged high-energy particles -- some
of which escape the surface and travel through space as the solar wind.
From time to time, that wind carries a billion-tonne glob of plasma, a
fireball known as a coronal mass ejection (see BELOW "When hell comes to
Earth").

If one should hit the Earth's magnetic shield, the result could be TRULY
DEVASTATING. The incursion of the plasma into our atmosphere causes
rapid changes in the configuration of Earth's magnetic field which, in
turn, induce currents in the long wires of the power grids. The grids
were not built to handle this sort of direct current electricity. The
greatest danger is at the step-up and step-down transformers used to
convert power from its transport voltage to domestically useful voltage.

The increased DC current creates strong magnetic fields that saturate a
transformer's magnetic core. The result is runaway current in the
transformer's copper wiring, which rapidly heats up and melts. This is
exactly what happened in the Canadian province of Quebec in March 1989,
and six million people spent 9 hours without electricity. But things
could get much, much worse than that.

WORSE THAN KATRINA

The most serious space weather event in history happened in 1859. It is
known as the Carrington event, after the British amateur astronomer
Richard Carrington, who was the first to note its cause: "two patches of
intensely bright and white light" emanating from a large group of
sunspots.

The Carrington event comprised eight days of severe space weather. There
were eyewitness accounts of stunning auroras, even at equatorial
latitudes. The world's telegraph networks experienced severe
disruptions, and Victorian magnetometers were driven off the scale.


Though a solar outburst could conceivably be more powerful, "we haven't
found an example of anything worse than a Carrington event", says James
Green, head of NASA's planetary division and an expert on the events of
1859. "From a scientific perspective, that would be the one that we'd
want to survive." However, the prognosis from the NAS analysis is that,
thanks to our technological prowess, many of us may not.

There are two (2) problems to face.

The FIRST is the modern electricity grid, which is designed to operate
at ever higher voltages over ever larger areas. Though this provides a
more efficient way to run the electricity networks, minimising power
losses and wastage through overproduction, it has made them much more
vulnerable to space weather. The high-power grids act as particularly
efficient antennas, channelling enormous direct currents into the power
transformers.

The SECOND problem is the grid's interdependence with the systems that
support our lives: water and sewage treatment, supermarket delivery
infrastructures, power station controls, financial markets and many
others all rely on electricity. Put the two together, and it is clear
that a repeat of the Carrington event could produce a catastrophe the
likes of which the world has never seen.

"It's just the opposite of how we usually think of natural disasters,"
says John Kappenman, a power industry analyst with the Metatech
Corporation of Goleta, California, and an advisor to the NAS committee
that produced the report.

"Usually the less developed regions of the world are most vulnerable,
not the highly sophisticated technological regions."
According to the NAS report, a severe space weather event in the U.S.
could induce ground currents that would knock out 300 key transformers
within about 90 seconds, cutting off the power for more than 130 million
people. From that moment, the clock is ticking for America.

First to go -- immediately for some people -- is drinkable water. Anyone
living in a high-rise apartment, where water has to be pumped to reach
them, would be cut off straight away. For the rest, drinking water will
still come through the taps for maybe half a day. With no electricity to
pump water from reservoirs, there is no more after that.

There is simply no electrically powered transport: no trains,
underground or overground. Our just-in-time culture for delivery
networks may represent the pinnacle of efficiency, but it means that
supermarket shelves would empty very quickly -- delivery trucks could
only keep running until their tanks ran out of fuel, and there is no
electricity to pump any more from the underground tanks at filling
stations.

Back-up generators would run at pivotal sites -- but only until their
fuel ran out. For hospitals, that would mean about 72 hours of running a
bare-bones, essential care only, service. After that, no more modern
healthcare.

72 HOURS OF HEALTHCARE REMAINING

The truly shocking finding is that this whole situation would not
improve for months, maybe years: melted transformer hubs cannot be
repaired, only replaced.

"From the surveys I've done, you might have a few spare transformers
around, but installing a new one takes a well-trained crew a week or
more," says Kappenman. "A major electrical utility might have one
suitably trained crew, maybe two."

Within a month, then, the handful of spare transformers would be used
up. The rest will have to be built to order, something that can take up
to 12 months. Even when some systems are capable of receiving power
again, there is no guarantee there will be any to deliver.

Almost all natural gas and fuel pipelines require electricity to
operate. Coal-fired power stations usually keep reserves to last 30
days, but with no transport systems running to bring more fuel, there
will be no electricity in the second month.


30 DAYS OF COAL LEFT

Nuclear power stations wouldn't fare much better. They are programmed to
shut down in the event of serious grid problems and are not allowed to
restart until the power grid is up and running.
With no power for heating, cooling or refrigeration systems, people
could begin to die within days. There is immediate danger for those who
rely on medication.


Lose power to New Jersey, for instance, and you have lost a major centre
of production of pharmaceuticals for the entire U.S. Perishable
medications such as insulin will soon be in short supply. "In the U.S.
alone there are a million people with diabetes," Kappenman says. "Shut
down production, distribution and storage and you put all those lives at
risk in very short order."

Help is NOT coming any time soon, either. If it is dark from the eastern
seaboard to Chicago, some affected areas are hundreds, maybe thousands
of miles away from anyone who might help. And those willing to help are
likely to be ill-equipped to deal with the sheer scale of the disaster.

"If a Carrington event happened now, it would be like a hurricane
Katrina, but 10 times worse," says Paul Kintner, a plasma physicist at
Cornell University in Ithaca, New York.

In reality, it would be much worse than that. Hurricane Katrina's
societal and economic impact has been measured at $81 billion to $125
billion. According to the NAS report, the impact of what it terms a
"severe geomagnetic storm scenario" could be as high as $2 trillion. And
that's just the first year after the storm. The NAS puts the recovery
time at four to 10 years. It is questionable whether the U.S. would ever
bounce back.

4-10 YEARS TO RECOVER

"I don't think the NAS report is scaremongering," says Mike Hapgood, who
chairs the European Space Agency's space weather team. Green agrees.
"Scientists are conservative by nature and this group is really
thoughtful," he says.
"This is a fair and balanced report."

Such nightmare scenarios are not restricted to North America. High
latitude nations such as Sweden and Norway have been aware for a while
that, while regular views of the aurora are pretty, they are also
reminders of an ever-present threat to their electricity grids. However,
the trend towards installing extremely high voltage grids means that
lower latitude countries are also at risk.

For example, China is on the way to implementing a 1000-kilovolt
electrical grid, twice the voltage of the U.S. grid. This would be a
superb conduit for space weather-induced disaster because the grid's
efficiency to act as an antenna rises as the voltage between the grid
and the ground increases. "China is going to discover at some point that
they have a problem," Kappenman says. Neither is Europe sufficiently
prepared.

Responsibility for dealing with space weather issues is "very
fragmented" in Europe, says Hapgood. Europe's electricity grids, on the
other hand, are highly interconnected and extremely vulnerable to
cascading failures. In 2006, the routine switch-off of a small part of
Germany's grid -- to let a ship pass safely under high-voltage cables --
caused a cascade power failure across western Europe. In France alone,
five million people were left without electricity for two hours.

"These systems are so complicated we don't fully understand the effects
of twiddling at one place," Hapgood says. "Most of the time it's
alright, but occasionally it will get you."

The good news is that, given enough warning, the utility companies can
take precautions, such as adjusting voltages and loads, and restricting
transfers of energy so that sudden spikes in current don't cause cascade
failures. There is still more bad news, however. Our early warning
system is becoming more unreliable by the day.

By far the most important indicator of incoming space weather is NASA's
Advanced Composition Explorer (ACE). The probe, launched in 1997, has a
solar orbit that keeps it directly between the sun and Earth. Its
uninterrupted view of the sun means it gives us continuous reports on
the direction and velocity of the solar wind and other streams of
charged particles that flow past its sensors.

ACE can provide between 15 and 45 minutes' warning of any incoming
geomagnetic storms. The power companies need about 15 minutes to prepare
their systems for a critical event, so that would seem passable.

15 MINUTES WARNING

However, observations of the sun and magnetometer readings during the
Carrington event shows that the coronal mass ejection was travelling so
fast it took less than 15 minutes to get from where ACE is positioned to
Earth. "It arrived faster than we can do anything," Hapgood says.

There is another problem. ACE is 11 years old, and operating well beyond
its planned lifespan. The onboard detectors are not as sensitive as they
used to be, and there is no telling when they will finally give up the
ghost. Furthermore, its sensors become saturated in the event of a
really powerful solar flare. "It was built to look at average conditions
rather than extremes," Baker says.

He was part of a space weather commission that three years ago warned
about the problems of relying on ACE. "It's been on my mind for a long
time," he says. "To not have a spare, or a strategy to replace it if and
when it should fail, is rather foolish."

There is no replacement for ACE due any time soon. Other solar
observation satellites, such as the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory
(SOHO) can provide some warning, but with less detailed information and
- crucially - much later. "It's quite hard to assess what the impact of
losing ACE will be," Hapgood says. "We will largely lose the early
warning capability."

The world will, most probably, yawn at the prospect of a devastating
solar storm until it happens. Kintner says his students show a "deep
indifference" when he lectures on the impact of space weather. But if
policy-makers show a similar indifference in the face of the latest NAS
report, it could cost tens of millions of lives, Kappenman reckons. "It
could conceivably be the worst natural disaster possible," he says.

The report outlines the worst case scenario for the U.S. The "perfect
storm" is most likely on a spring or autumn night in a year of
heightened solar activity - something like 2012. Around the equinoxes,
the orientation of the Earth's field to the sun makes us particularly
vulnerable to a plasma strike.

What's more, at these times of year, electricity demand is relatively
low because no one needs too much heating or air conditioning. With only
a handful of the U.S. grid's power stations running, the system relies
on computer algorithms shunting large amounts of power around the grid
and this leaves the network highly vulnerable to sudden spikes.

If ACE has failed by then, or a plasma ball flies at us too fast for any
warning from ACE to reach us, the consequences could be staggering. "A
really large storm could be a planetary disaster," Kappenman says.

So what should be done? No one knows yet -- the report is meant to spark
that conversation. Baker is worried, though, that the odds are stacked
against that conversation really getting started. As the NAS report
notes, it is terribly difficult to inspire people to prepare for a
potential crisis that has never happened before and may not happen for
decades to come. "It takes a lot of effort to educate policy-makers, and
that is especially true with these low-frequency events," he says.

We should learn the lessons of hurricane Katrina, though, and realise
that "unlikely" doesn't mean "won't happen." Especially when the stakes
are so high. The fact is, it could come in the next three or four years
-- and with devastating effects. "The Carrington event happened during a
mediocre, ho-hum solar cycle," Kintner says. "It came out of nowhere, so
we just don't know when something like that is going to happen again."

WHEN HELL COMES TO EARTH

Severe space weather events often coincide with the appearance of
sunspots, which are indicators of particularly intense magnetic fields
at the sun's surface. The chaotic motion of charged particles in the
upper atmosphere of the sun creates magnetic fields that writhe, twist
and turn, and occasionally snap and reconfigure themselves in what is
known as a "reconnection."

These reconnection events are violent, and can fling out billions of
tonness of plasma in a "coronal mass ejection" (CME). If flung towards
the Earth, the plasma ball will accelerate as it travels through space
and its intense magnetic field will soon interact with the planet's
magnetic field, the magnetosphere.

Depending on the relative orientation of the two fields, several things
can happen. If the fields are oriented in the same direction, they slip
round one another. In the worst case scenario, though, when the field of
a particularly energetic CME opposes the Earth's field, things get much
more dramatic.

"The Earth can't cope with the plasma," says James Green, head of NASA's
planetary division. "The CME just opens up the magnetosphere like a
can-opener, and matter squirts in."

The sun's activity waxes and wanes every 11 years or so, with the
appearance of sunspots following the same cycle. This period isn't
consistent, however. Sometimes the interval between sunspot maxima is as
short as nine years, other times as long as 14 years. At the moment the
sun appears calm.

"We're in the equivalent of an idyllic summer's day. The sun is quiet
and benign, the quietest it has been for 100 years," says Mike Hapgood,
who chairs the European Space Agency's space weather team, "but it could
turn the other way."

The NEXT SOLAR MAXIMUM IS EXPECTED IN 2012.
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BIBLIOGRAPHY

"Severe Space Weather Events: Understanding Societal and Economic
Impacts" (National Academies Press)

Actually, the relevant information IS for free... To save you the trouble, here's the URL so you can read the important sections for free:

http://www.thekolbrin.com/kolbrin_toc.html

I would advise reading the background though first at the main page, here: http://www.thekolbrin.com/

My understanding is that the first meeting/treaty offer was by STO aliens and the Roswell group was the STS that offered technology.

You may be more correct than I, and I would like to know what you base that conclusion on, but my understanding is that the Roswell 'crash' came in reaction to the '41 crash - the STS broke the quarantine first (and are likely the ones that interfaced with the Nazis via the crash in the Black Forest in the early '30s).

Penguin,

I click on that link and it takes me right straight to it. Try it again or copy and paste the link, it should work.


brightstar

The only thing I can conclude with this {Project Spook-a-lot's '2009: A Tale of Two Timelines'} is that we do not have yet enough data to conclude anything.

What is the reason for the falling out between Dan B and DonDep?

[it is] more what we think that what we do that determines the future.

DonDep,

This is very confusing. It doesn't help clarify what the cause of the fall out was. Still, as a gestalt, it's helpful.

1.) Majestic gave orders for Dan to go public.

--- Yes, many years ago. As early as 2000, Dan himself knew he was to play a 'public' role.

2.) Dan didn't cooperate quite as expected. (Didn't join masons.)

--- That was known before-hand. This allowed him to be "amongst the upmost echelon" (the better to supposedly testify as to what they 'knew').

3.) "Teams" were sent to discredit what Dan was "preaching."

--- I don't see where you get that. It's true that some 'insiders' were aware that Dan was being groomed to "calm" the populace during the "frosty season", as Dan likes to call this time period. But they weren't ordered to do so by Dadmiral or Big Dick or their closest henchmen on Majestic, in fact they've risked their lives in some cases.

4.) Dan persisted but finally "saw the light" and conformed. (Allowed to joined the Prieure de Sion.)

--- Actually he was beaten to within an inch of his life in March 2003, allegedly by 'Illuminati' agents but more than likely Majestic agents made to look like it was an Illuminati attack. And the Sion membership was a sweetener to entice, where threats and beatings didn't work.

5.) Majestic re-defined Dan's orders, hence the backpeddling and reversal of message.

--- Yes, apparently they notified him they wanted him to sterilize his message of the 'warning' aspect sometime after March 2006.

6.) Dan saw an opportunity to play you for his own "benefit," ie., helping him achieve his new goal, which is to discredit himself and what he's said in the past.

--- The first half of the statement seems quite correct, though his 'new goal' might be to use me to emphasize the now-restricted 'warning' aspect of his message. Which, to me, is the meat-and-potatoes of the 'message', as it were (i.e. no-one actually wants a catastrophic event, so prayer is encouraged by all no matter what the religious affiliation).

7.) His motivation is still to save the world from its Timeline 2 fate. He's just taking a new strategy and burning bridges to protect the innocent.


--- His motivation remains the same, yes, though again the second part of the statement would need some more detail.

8.) And what gives it away is the bad acting on the part of all involved. But this is deliberate, to discredit himself more.

--- Yes, the bad acting and over-the-top sanctimony gives away something.

Yes, the saga is quickly turning into a farce...

And the more I look for the missing "quark," the more uncertain I am. (Majestic has finally understood the power of Quantum Physics and realize it more what we think that what we do that determines the future? Hence, Dan's new message/mantra.)

I'm not so sure about that. Perhaps.

The only thing I'm certain is that there's nothing as good as realizing the truth with a good beat song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IpShX66_h0

I'm not so sure about that. Perhaps.

redacted video teleconference which was held on March 29, 2007. "J" is the former MJ1, "A" is Ann, "M" is Marcia, and "D" is Dan. "Dxx" is Don (dondep), and "Kxxxx" is Kevin Tebbit, former MAJ member.

032907 video teleconference transcript

J: Hi kids!
D: Hello!
A: Hi, sir.
M: Hello, sir!
J: I want to thank you all for the support you have given to me, in my new life.
D: It’s not like we have had a choice? (laughing)
J: (laughing)
M: (laughing)
A: (laughing)
J: I think we’re coming close to the time, what do you say, Dan?
D: Well, sir- The XXXXXXX are in, meaning XXXXXXXXX amongst them, and I believe Marcia has the XXXXXXX information. Ann

has been assisting her.
M: Yes, sir! I have what the XXXXXX requested. We have that much.
J: Very good! I’m glad to see XXXXX working things out for himself.
A: I wish I could have stopped Kxxxx, but with the way things have worked out, it doesn’t matter.
J: Well, that’s too true.
D: The XXXXX XXXXX are all known as well. Ann, what is Kxxxx up to now?
A: Not so much now as last year. Dan, I thought you knew? Meaning about Kxxxx?
D: No, ma’am!
M: Sis, you mean about Kxxxx realizing that Dan and I are on the same side?
A: No. Jxxx, I wish you would have told them. Now I’m in a pinch.
J: And early in the conversation for you! (laughing) I apologize for the situation. Would you like me to go on?
A: No, I’ll tell them. Dan, you remember our March 17, 2006 conference?
D: Do you mean where we discussed about the possibility of Kxxxx thinking I was Illuminati? (laughing)
A: That’s the same one. Yes. The one right after the XXXXXX first approached you and Jxxx.
D: I remember then, yes. Go ahead.
A: There was a mix up in communication between myself and Kxxxx. I was doing the in between, and –
J: And so you failed with the in between.
A: Yes, I failed with the in between. The XXXX would never have believed you were willing to peace it with them if you were still dragging around somebody like Dxx. So I first flagged the relationship per J. You even understood as long as they were in danger.
Being the danger was real, no need to go into it further with either of you.

--- Consider what was just said. Dadmiral admits that his attempts to make peace with the Illuminati wouldn't succeed if he was 'still dragging around somebody like Dondep'. That's a nice way to refer to your friends, Dan. Is that why you shrugged your shoulders when I went over to talk to you about it following the 'Big Psy-Op'? The black-ops uses people, then throws them away like a used paper towel. Nice! Not so much as a "thanks, but we have no need for your services any more, have a nice life".

--- While we were at that meeting at the Hilton with Al and Ishoni Fast Thunder (a 'smoking of the peace pipe' and Marci filming Dan and Al talking about Majestic for DVD #2), Dan explained to me when I asked about the supposed danger of me getting killed and why he didn't just come out and tell me in an honorable way instead of making up a lie about it, that the 'bullet' I might 'get in the way of' would have actually been meant for me. Which makes the lie even bigger, and worse.

M: What in hell’s half acre are you talking about?
A: Let me go on?
M: I want to hear why you didn’t tell me!
A: I will.
D: You can be thankful you aren’t in reaching distance right now!
J: To you or Marci?
D: Let’s see what she says.
A: May I continue?
J: Go.
A: So as I was saying, as long as they were in danger, you didn’t mind it. But, --
D: I’m getting a bad feeling where this is going.
A: But, I didn’t cross the information back to Kxxxx because he was placed under surveillance by Majfinsec for monetary concerns as
Maj was closing.
D: Kxxxx?
J: He added the comments to our conversation Dan.
D: Oh, Jesus Christ! I thought that Dxx added them for his Planet X theory!
J: Yes, and I let you think that.
D: Son of a bitch, Jxxx! (yelling)
A: Look Dan, Kxxxx was working both sides. I couldn’t let him in on the XXXXXX and what you agreed!
M: Sis, you should have told me! What kind of shit is this? (yelling) Is this thing with you going all the way back to New Orleans?
A: Goddamnit Marci this doesn’t have anything to do with f**k**g New Orleans! (yelling)
D: Oh, Jesus! Oh, Jesus!
J: Listen to me! (yelling) The Planet X thing takes credibility, which you have, and throws it in the shitter! It’s no more than him changing what you said in the hallway about that other character and the affidavit.

--- Dadmiral will be reminded of this throughout eternity as he himself knows full well about the approach of "X". He acts as if he's but another dim-witted no-nothing, and worse, he lies yet again when he claims I "changed what [Dan] said in the hallway [of the Hilton] about [Dagwood] and [some] affidavit".

Future visions? You watched a video, right? Listen up here! Apophis could hit us! That’s not a vision, that’s science. That science backs up what the Looking Glass showed.
D: What? I thought that was lowered?
J: We’re waiting on better data. So, it’s stock up for awhile now in case we can’t stop it. It’s not a planet killer, but it will interrupt us for some time.
D: So, you are telling me Dxx is right?

--- This betrays the fact that Dan hasn't spent much time considering the wealth of information that those higher-up in the food chain had given me, indicating that what they were telling me was more than likely correct. There were several sources for information I received, not the least of which was "K", and some of them explained how Dan was "treated like a mushroom" on this most important issue of all, because it would take away his sincere belief in the delusion Chi'el'ah and the MAJI had sold him on.

J: Yes and no. No. He is waiting for some Pole shift right?
D: He is waiting for Nibiru as a Brown Dwarf or something like that. There is a decided difference between an electromagnetic pole flip, which I believe is underway now, and a geophysical as in T2. I tried to speak with him about it, that this is a cyclic issue of chaos-
cosmos. There’s no talking to him. He goes deaf just like the people he calls dissonant. Back to the other. What’s its potential as an
impact event?

---Whoa. This is where the reader needs to know a key aspect of the time I spent within Dan's proximity (i.e. while we stayed with Marci during Feb and early March 2006 and Dan would come most every afternoon or evening). Dan avoided ALL discussion of these issues (T1 vs. T2, Planet X, poleshift, etc). I broached the subject twice, to see if he would engage the conversation (this is hard, as most people who've spent much time around Dan know; he's almost always the one doing the talking, with only Marci getting in a full sentence edge-wise, and then it was to flatter him into going off yet again on something or other). What Dan is trying to do here, and what shows this transcript as being false, is his statement "there's no talking to him". He can't give an example of anything remotely resembling that remark, because it simply wasn't the case. I enjoy a fulsome debate, and can usually provide the opponent's POV upon recollection, but I guarantee you Dan won't be able to do this in this instance because he is lying. It's one of the few examples of Dan out-and-out lying; usually his lies are of omission or obfuscation, not so blatant.

J: He is wrong about the Brown Dwarf, right about a higher probability of impact of an earth disrupting asteroid. It should be within visible range. I believe it will pass within the Earth Moon distance.
D: Okay, I just wanted to make sure that this wasn’t a T2 involved thing. This still troubles me, as it’s too easily, ah too easy added in your subject matter. I’ve never heard you speak of this before?
J: It’s been in the mainstream. It’s nothing we’ve been hiding.
M: Okay, we understand that! Well, no I don’t! The stocking of provisions was earmarked as possible T2 stocking. I’ve never heard anything in the way of an asteroid until now. Plus, I still don’t understand why we weren’t told of you working an op against us involving
Kxxxx’s additions?
A: I spoke with J and he said it wasn’t more important than us getting the XXXXXXXXXX on board so you could cut the XXXXXXX
off at the knees!
D: Wasn’t more important, what, Apophis or Dxx?
A: Dxx, silly!
D: Well, I will agree that we have had problems with Dxx broadcasting whatever he got his hands on, when it served his purposes, but these issues are apples and oranges to me.
J: Dan, Marci, you two would be told before anything would get critical.
D: Screw me! (yelling) What of the impact’s ground zero? Are we readying a protocol for movement of the populace from even an estimated ground zero location?
J: Dan, we don’t know if it will hit us!
D: Right, but we know when it's passing, yes? Why not project it hitting us, and estimate from there? Jesus Christ! (yelling) Do you
know how many it would wipe out, even if it isn’t an Earth killer?
J: That depends on where we estimate it will hit us! We might win the war quicker! (laughing)
D: Not funny!
M: No, you know sir, I don’t, I mean to say, I don’t see that as funny either.
J: Look Dan –
D: No, you look! (yelling) The first friggin chance I legitimately get, I am going to expose this information you just gave! (yelling)
J: You make damned sure it’s not from me! (yelling)
D: I understand, you are in D.C. and trying to hold Dxxx together. I understand that. I also understand that this is information I should
have been provided so that I could have given a more complete view of what we have, or what some have known. Now, what? This
information comes to the public, and it emboldens those who have been screaming doom? You withhold critical information, and how about you Ann? Did you know this?
A: Sugarlady said Apophis misses us in T1 but maybe not now that we’ve changed the course pushing us off T2.
D: Damned if we do and damned if don’t.
J: Not really, it will miss us.
D: A moment ago you said we weren't sure it would hit us, now you are sure it will miss us?
J: The numbers say it will miss.
D: Which numbers? The ones before the stargates were grabbed or after?
J: There are no real after numbers because we tore them down. The glasses.
D: Exactly! Think about what Ann just said! I have no choice! I have no choice but to announce what I’ve learned!
J: How? Exactly what have you learned?
D: Jxxx, I have no choice but to say that while there is a possibility that Apophis will strike us, and that while this has been in the
mainstream media, that the appearance of the lack of consideration by the Maji was not the full story.
J: What does that do to help anyone? It will strengthen the idiotic claims of people like Dxx, who are waiting for the sky to fall! (yelling)
M: What it will do, is tell the truth.
D: Thank you!
A: For as bad as I've been, I agree that it should be told that the Majestic hierarchy has been watching the situation.
D: How can I say that? Is that what the group is called?
J: I thought it was Sion! (laughing)
D: Funny!
J: You were nicknamed S1 while you were in liaison with Nxxx.
D: Thanks for letting me know. I thought H1 held.
J: No. Separate classification for separate duties. We had to call you something.
D: Is there anything else you haven’t told us? Anything of such importance?
J: Dan, no.
(A hangs up.)
M: Why did she hang up?
D: I don’t know.
J: Let’s try to dial her back. Her console reads busy.
D: Huh?
M: I’ll try to call her later. She may be having an anxiety attack.
D: I have to tell you, Jxxx: If there is one more thing – just one more!
J: You’ll what?
D: You’ll find out. My word on that! As it is, now I have to break the news that the Maji were considering and the new group is now considering the Apophis issue. I suppose we could add it to DVD number 2. I am also going to have to look into it.
>>>>>>>cut

Those without insider knowledge will be wondering what all the machinations have been about? Well...as I have said...we ARE retired. That doesn't mean that all relationships become instantly cut as soon as a bell rings and the word "retired" is yelled! Mind you, it only works that way in neat stories, not real life. Most of the machinations are actually referring to issues that happened prior to September 7, 2006, the real date of retirement.

The information about K adding to comments from a real conversation that occurred with J, is also not the point! I have given up trying to tell the truth to some folks. Why? They seem incapable of understanding it or realizing anything beyond their own perceived paradigm. People who once proudly preached about the dissonance of others are now so self-deluded they are unable to see that they're in the same shape.

Frankly, when it comes to me (Dan), 2 friends of 21 years duration, 3 friends of 16 years duration, and a small cadre' of others of lesser time have been essentially lost due to what's happening, so don't think for a moment that we are overly concerned about what some people in the public are willing to declare they believe or disbelieve.

This issue has to do with J1 lying. Let's not act as though it's the first time! He was part of another lie in 2004, and lied several times to Marcia. This issue does not have to do with the statements I have made about my account, either. Truths have been shared, for 20 years with many operatives on many levels.

Continuing...

The 'cause' of the fallout was Dadmiral's orders to Dan to 'divide' or divest himself of his relationship with me.

He has Marci write an incendiary email to Dan (who lives in an apartment 200 yards from the one he shares with his wife, though he spends most of his 'free time' at hers), and has Dan send it to me, then arranges a dust-up on-thread using the tactics of Marci's sister "Ann" (whom no-one has ever seen, except for a brief picture allegedly posted in a now-you-see-her, now-you-don't tease in 2006 on SNEDs).

And to complicate matters..... an additional transcript - between Dadmiral, Dan, Marci and Ann 'surfaces' in 2007 that makes the situation even more suspicious, as I'll post shortly.