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The Golden Thread, Volume 4.5 2009
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Shady Groves
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Re: Let's Play What's Wrong With This Picture.
I believe some of the Apollo Missions between Apollo 14 and 17 were legit moonlandings. We actually reached the moon and landed a man upon it.
Though I believe the Apollo Missions in the 60s were all faked. The powers that be did so for several reasons.
We simply did not have technology ready.
Expense.
Propaganda, We were in a Space Race against the Soviets.
and several others
I do not think that astronauts were in on the hoaxing but victims themselves. Various MKULTRA techniques used on them.
Remember once they were placed in the module for launch holding pattern they were there alone on the launch pad with gantry in place from 4- 6 hours before launch. Ample time to get a Black Op crew into there removed the drugged Astronauts, whisk them away to a studio and when needed. secretly launch them into orbit (or either drop the module from a cargo or bomber plane in high atmospherfor) of a perfect press a 'return splashdown.'
Just some thoughts,
Shady
mjc wrote: Shady Groves wrote: Let's play what's wrong with this picture.
NASA Famous photograph of Neil Armstrong seconds after returning from his history famous walk "One Small Step For Man, One Giant Leap For Mankind." and going bouncy bouncy on the moon surface. He's returned to capsule and removed his helmet for photograph.
No check out this dudes eyes!
Is it:
A. Damn I'm excited to be first human being to walk on the surface of the moon. Excitement???
B. Damn looks like Reptialian to men!
C. Damn that dudes HIGH as KITE and I'm not talking NASA issue high!
I'd say all of the above, Shady, plus D: Smile for the machine guns (off camera) after 5 heavily armed Black Ops types had intruded into the lunar vehicle on the moon film set. Kidding, I believe that the US really landed on the moon, although some of the "actual" moon footage that was aired in the 1960s and 1970s does show the glint of wires above some astronauts. Now that's really bizarre and suggests that NASA had filmed some PR footage in a film studio before certain moon landings, almost as if they had wanted to present the watching world's public with glossy Hollywood-like imagery, just in case the real stuff looked dull and fuzzy in comparison.
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Dex
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Re: other video...
_________________ Extraterrestrial's said to Alex..."The love that you withhold is the pain that you carry lifetime after lifetime".
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Sun May 17, 2009 3:40 pm |
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Gav
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I checked out Planet Vulcan, as well as Eros.
It looks like Eros orbits between Earth and Mars, and occasionally crosses Mars' orbit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/433_Eros
Pretty funny how this bloke claimed to own Eros, and wanted to charge NASA for using it as a parking bay.
Planet Vulcan was discovered back in mid 1800's by an amatuer
astronomer, but it is claimed to no longer be there. Maybe it got fried, being so close to the Sun?
http://www.planetvulcan.org/
Gav
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the time traveler
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Notice one thing about the latest sun PX photo? PX is on the wrong side of the sun. It is supose to be on the right side and comming this way. Unless it has been captured and is going to circle the sun forever.
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Sun May 17, 2009 8:57 pm |
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mjc
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Re: Let's Play What's Wrong With This Picture.
Shady Groves wrote: I believe some of the Apollo Missions between Apollo 14 and 17 were legit moonlandings. We actually reached the moon and landed a man upon it.
Though I believe the Apollo Missions in the 60s were all faked. The powers that be did so for several reasons.
We simply did not have technology ready. Expense. Propaganda, We were in a Spac e Race against the Soviets. and several others Fair points, that make sense. Having said that, some elements of the later 1970s colour footage show some jiggery-pokery in places as well. Most bizarre. the time traveller wrote: Notice one thing about the latest sun PX photo? PX is on the wrong side of the sun. It is supose to be on the right side and comming this way. Unless it has been captured and is going to circle the sun forever.
I believe Lynnwood gave a response to Don_D about this on page 28, regarding the sunrise footage that someone had shot from inside an airliner. However, this Indian camfone footage was shot around 6PM in the evening, wasn't it. I had initially thought that the anomaly being on the left must have had something to do with India being in the southern hemisphere, but it's in the northern hemisphere, isn't it.
Like I said to Dex, personally I think the second sun anomaly is the defunct dwarf star/companion of our Sun, and not PX itself, which perhaps hasn't made its presence felt yet, who knows. The anomaly may even represent something interdimensional in nature that defies everything we know about the omniverse. It's great to speculate, ain't it?
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Mon May 18, 2009 2:44 am |
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mjc
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Relative sizes of planetary bodies
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recall15
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the time traveler wrote: Notice one thing about the latest sun PX photo? PX is on the wrong side of the sun. It is supose to be on the right side and comming this way. Unless it has been captured and is going to circle the sun forever.
is not captured is stalled!
in the next Sun explossion it will move a little until got free... and get a new path against the next magnetic object:
Planet Earth!
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Überm Sternenzelt richtet Gott, wie wir gerichtet.
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Mon May 18, 2009 5:15 am |
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starryeyes
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Re: Let's Play What's Wrong With This Picture.
Shady Groves wrote: Let's play what's wrong with this picture. NASA Famous photograph of Neil Armstrong seconds after returning from his history famous walk "One Small Step For Man, One Giant Leap For Mankind." and going bouncy bouncy on the moon surface. He's returned to capsule and removed his helmet for photograph. No check out this dudes eyes! Shady
Funny, I recently worked on a huge project - the subject being 50 years of Nasa and went through most, of not all of their image sources....
I worked on this for months last fall.
I never ran across this image -- do you have a direct link to the NASA source Shady?
I suspect it was not after the walk as there are no high rez - or even vivid images like this shot in the ship after the walk.
If it is available-- I may have use for it in the months to come - including several notable Apollo flights anniversaries. It would be helpful.
thanks
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Mon May 18, 2009 7:41 am |
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starryeyes
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Quote: Shadow Government Getting Too Large To Meet In Marriott Conference Room B May 5, 2009 | Issue 45•19
COLUMBUS, OH—With its membership swelling in recent months, the mysterious organization that secretly pulls the levers of American power was forced to suspend its weekly meeting Monday, having grown too big to fit inside Marriott Conference Room B. "To successfully carry out our clandestine operations and continue maintaining the ignorance of the masses, we will now require the full amenities of Conference Room A," said an unidentified man, who is believed to have covertly orchestrated the economic collapse of Iceland last year. "We must postpone the Cataclysmic Event until such time as a more comfortable meeting space is available." According to confidential records, the hidden regime's enrollment has more than doubled since it gained free access to the Marriott's swimming pool and gym facilities.
http://www.theonion.com/content/news_br ... nt_getting
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Mon May 18, 2009 7:55 am |
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starryeyes
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no joke
Quote: U.S. Steps Up Secret Surveillance FBI, Justice Dept. Increase Use of Wiretaps, Records Searches By Dan Eggen and Robert O'Harrow Jr. Washington Post Staff Writers Monday, March 24, 2003; Page A01
Since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, the Justice Department and FBI have dramatically increased the use of two little-known powers that allow authorities to tap telephones, seize bank and telephone records and obtain other information in counterterrorism investigations with no immediate court oversight, according to officials and newly disclosed documents.
The FBI, for example, has issued scores of "national security letters" that require businesses to turn over electronic records about finances, telephone calls, e-mail and other personal information, according to officials and documents. The letters, a type of administrative subpoena, may be issued independently by FBI field offices and are not subject to judicial review unless a case comes to court, officials said.
Attorney General John D. Ashcroft has also personally signed more than 170 "emergency foreign intelligence warrants," three times the number authorized in the preceding 23 years, according to recent congressional testimony.
Federal law allows the attorney general to issue unilaterally these classified warrants for wiretaps and physical searches of suspected terrorists and other national security threats under certain circumstances. They can be enforced for 72 hours before they are subject to review and approval by the ultra-secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.
The Patriot Act also significantly increased the amount of intelligence information that can be shared with criminal prosecutors and federal grand juries, giving authorities new powers in the war on terrorism. National security letters can be used as part of criminal investigations and preliminary inquiries involving terrorism and espionage, according to officials and internal FBI guidelines on the letters.
According to documents given to EPIC and the American Civil Liberties Union as part of their lawsuit, the FBI has issued enough national security letters since October 2001 to fill more than five pages of logs. There is no way to determine exactly how many times the documents have been employed because the logs were almost entirely blacked out, according to a copy provided to The Washington Post by the ACLU.
The Justice Department and FBI refuse to provide summary data about how often the letters are used. Several lawmakers have proposed legislation that would require the department to provide that kind of data.
"In our view, the public is entitled to these statistics," said Jameel Jaffer, staff attorney for the ACLU's national legal department. "We have no idea how those are being used." FBI spokesman John Iannarelli said "it's safe to say that anybody who is going to conduct a terrorism investigation is probably going to use them at some point. . . . It's a way to expedite information, and there's nothing that needs expediting more than a terrorism investigation."
But a November 2001 memorandum prepared by FBI attorneys warned that the letters "must be used judiciously" to avoid angering Congress, which will reconsider Patriot provisions in 2005. "The greater availability of NSLs does not mean they should be used in every case," the memo says.
Beryl A. Howell, former general counsel to Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) and a specialist in surveillance law, described national security letters as "an unchecked, secret power that makes it invisible to public scrutiny and difficult even for congressional oversight." Howell now is a managing director and general counsel at Stroz Friedberg LLC, a computer forensic firm in the District.
Under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), the government has the power to obtain secret warrants for telephone wiretaps, electronic monitoring and physical searches in counterterrorism and espionage cases. The Justice Department has expanded its use of such warrants since a favorable FISA court ruling last year, which determined that the Patriot Act gave federal officials broad new authority to obtain them.
The warrants, cloaked in secrecy and largely ignored by the public for years, have become a central issue in the ongoing debate over missteps before the Sept. 11 attacks. The FBI has come under sharp criticism from lawmakers who say FBI officials misread the FISA statute in the case of Zacarias Moussaoui, the alleged terror conspirator who was in custody before the attacks.
No warrant was sought in the Moussaoui case, and his computer and other belongings were not searched until after the attacks. Even less well known are provisions that allow the attorney general to authorize these secret warrants on his own in emergency situations. The department then has 72 hours from the time a search or wiretap is launched to obtain approval from the FISA court, whose proceedings and findings are closed to the public.
Officials said that Ashcroft can use his emergency power when he believes there is no time to wait for the FISA court to approve a warrant. There are no additional restrictions on emergency warrants, other than the rules that apply to all FISA applications, officials said.
Ashcroft told lawmakers earlier this month that Justice made more than 1,000 applications for warrants to the secret court in 2002, including more than 170 in the emergency category. In the previous 23 years, only 47 emergency FISA warrants were issued.
FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III, in similar testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee, said, "We can often establish electronic surveillance within hours of establishing probable cause that an individual is an appropriate FISA subject." "We have made full and very productive use of the emergency FISA process," Mueller said.
Sobel and other civil liberties advocates say they are troubled by the aggressive use of emergency FISAs because it leaves the initial decision up to the attorney general and allows clandestine searches and surveillance for up to three days before any court review.
Staff researcher Madonna Lebling contributed to this report.
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Mon May 18, 2009 8:02 am |
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recall15
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Re: Let's Play What's Wrong With This Picture.
starryeyes wrote: Shady Groves wrote: Let's play what's wrong with this picture.
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Shady Funny, I recently worked on a huge project - the subject being 50 years of Nasa and went through most, of not all of their image sources.... I worked on this for months last fall. ... thanks
Hey did you know what kind of "artefact" is?
Location: The moon
http://161.115.184.211/teague/apollo/as10-28-3990.jpg
http://161.115.184.211/teague/apollo/as10-28-3989.jpg
http://161.115.184.211/teague/apollo/as10-28-3988.jpg
identified: Not yet!
comments and suggestions are appreciated!
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Remember: this whole thing is about self-responsibility, self-rule and self choice.
Überm Sternenzelt richtet Gott, wie wir gerichtet.
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Mon May 18, 2009 8:44 am |
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the time traveler
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Recall15, interesting pic. But why is there a straight edge in the last pic as if it were photographed on a table?
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the time traveler
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The way I understand it there was so much chatter and photographing of saucers on the moon that a fake landing had to be made to fill in the spaces were the original was eddited for the public.
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recall15
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yes, very strange set of pictures, if you zoom these object you fin the curve edges, an if you change the bright/contrast values, you see other things there...
meanwhile:
does sunspot 1070 moves nibiru?
http://spaceweather.com/
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Remember: this whole thing is about self-responsibility, self-rule and self choice.
Überm Sternenzelt richtet Gott, wie wir gerichtet.
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Mon May 18, 2009 10:24 am |
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starryeyes
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Re: Let's Play What's Wrong With This Picture.
recall 15
-- you miss the point
i think --
what is your point anyway? -
do you mind articulating in english and not in a bunch of links?
And I don't see what these links have to do with my post.
I say that image is not even suggested (by NASA) to be from the time Shady says that NASA says it is ....
I am a designer. I tell stories with images and photos for clients.
Photos that are vetted - and in this case the exact mission from which they were taken - is very important.
i requested the NASA link to the PR image -- that really should not be too much to ask?
god I am sick of conspiracy crap behind every corner
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Mon May 18, 2009 10:48 am |
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recall15
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Re: Let's Play What's Wrong With This Picture.
starryeyes wrote: recall 15 -- you miss the point i think -- ...
the point here is:
with your knowledge on NASA Images, what do you thinks of those "curious" images... what history may sorround them?
i want to hear your opinion...really
Best Regards!
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Remember: this whole thing is about self-responsibility, self-rule and self choice.
Überm Sternenzelt richtet Gott, wie wir gerichtet.
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Mon May 18, 2009 10:55 am |
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starryeyes
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Re: Let's Play What's Wrong With This Picture.
duplicate
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Mon May 18, 2009 11:00 am |
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starryeyes
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Re: Let's Play What's Wrong With This Picture.
Show me the link to the NASA web site that is hosting them...
THAT is my answer.
Shady says that image is a PR image released by NASA
I missed it and my producer apparently did also
or else it is not from that mission
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Mon May 18, 2009 11:00 am |
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Dex
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Re: Let's Play What's Wrong With This Picture.
Looks like debris. A fragment from an explosion.
Dex
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Mon May 18, 2009 11:27 am |
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Dex
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FYI
Cross posting:
FYI
Mail is being monitored. I can't say anything yet Joyce. It's more important than realized though.
Remember. You're my witness to the Nuclear Power Plant violators shutdown mission?
Not only that...an accomplice...I had you typing up the letters to Gov...I sure needed you then scribe. Thank you.
Don't worry, that ended in 1986.
God wants public showing. Crop Circles and The Second Sun (Son) is special.
Dex
----- Original Message -----
From: Joyce Allene
To: dexxxaa@earthlink.net
Sent: 5/18/2009 8:37:56 AM
Subject: Re: More Second Sun (Son) Photos
Are you going to tell me or do I have to guess?
----- Original Message -----
From: Dex
To: Joyce Allene
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: More Second Sun (Son) Photos
Not yet.
Joyce
Do you realize I made the 'prediction' of seeing the Light of the Second Sun (Son) to all these forums in Jan 10, 2009, and now it's manifesting? This was before any of us knew anything about it.
There's a reason for this you know?
Dex
_________________ Extraterrestrial's said to Alex..."The love that you withhold is the pain that you carry lifetime after lifetime".
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Shady Groves
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Re: Let's Play What's Wrong With This Picture.
Definitely some type of space dibre.
Looks like a piece of a haul or bulkhead.
The interesting is this.
If you zoom in on high resolution 1200 and above. You find its quiet old pitted with micro meteorite impact.
The question is this. We know micro meteorites are a serious danger to OUR craft up there. Those suckers travel at anywhere from 7,000 mph to 20,000 mph. They can literally pass threw the haul of the shuttle. The micro meteorite impacts on this thing do not penetrate the surface at all! Hardly make a dent what so ever! So logically one could assume the metal of this thing is not man made. Then your left asking is what the hell blew this thing apart (assuming its from a craft)
Then there is the semi sphere thing in 1-2 o clock position silver metallic. It seems to be moving out frame on its own using the object to hide behind! As the object rotates the semi-sphere appears to be independent of the object all together and moving on its own.
A probe hiding behind a piece of Ancient Space Junk? Using its cover to get close to Apollo?
REALLY Interesting!!
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recall15
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Re: Let's Play What's Wrong With This Picture.
starryeyes wrote: Show me the link to the NASA web site that is hosting them...
THAT is my answer.
Shady says that image is a PR image released by NASA I missed it and my producer apparently did also
or else it is not from that mission
10-4:
the complete set...
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apoll ... gazine/?28
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Shady Groves
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Re: Let's Play What's Wrong With This Picture.
Quote: Aldrin took this picture of Armstrong in the cabin after the completion of the EVA.
Neil Armstrong From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Scroll down to Apollo II in story and its on the rightside http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_ArmstrongIt appears that that they only showed the public Black and White low res.. but inside the cabins and with them were high res cameras for their personal or mission work. If the caption isn't wrong then Aldrin took a picutre of Armstrong upon his return of his famous walk. And again keep looking at the eyes. starryeyes wrote: Shady Groves wrote: Let's play what's wrong with this picture. NASA Famous photograph of Neil Armstrong seconds after returning from his history famous walk "One Small Step For Man, One Giant Leap For Mankind." and going bouncy bouncy on the moon surface. He's returned to capsule and removed his helmet for photograph. No check out this dudes eyes! Shady Funny, I recently worked on a huge project - the subject being 50 years of Nasa and went through most, of not all of their image sources.... I worked on this for months last fall. I never ran across this image -- do you have a direct link to the NASA source Shady? I suspect it was not after the walk as there are no high rez - or even vivid images like this shot in the ship after the walk. If it is available-- I may have use for it in the months to come - including several notable Apollo flights anniversaries. It would be helpful. thanks
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the time traveler
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I am still waiting for Charlie! But my best judgement tells me that we won't hear from him untill January or Febuary. Anyone know otherwise?
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Dex
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Paul Vigay
Cross posting:
(Note: For those who have the ears to hear and the eyes that see. You wanted to know. Lets solve a puzzle. A reference to 'keyhole' in the below excerpt about Colin Andrews...Remember the crop circle similarity?...We go out on a thin limb sharing this with you. I hope all of you will, eventually, appreciate it?...Part of the 'Plan'...Dex)
Archive for February, 2009
Sad news of the passing of Paul Vigay
Wednesday, February 25th, 2009
Paul Vigays body was found washed ashore at Southsea, Portsmouth, Uk on Friday the 20th of February, 2009, not far from his home. He was reported missing at 11pm the evening before. Little is known as to the circumstances surrounding his death.
Our thoughts and deepest sympathies go out to Louie and Pauls family at this very sad time. This news comes as such a shock to all who knew him.
Paul was a long time researcher of cop circles and the paranormal and has been a friend to myself and my late husband, Dr Jonathan Sherwood, since we first met him in a crop circle opposite stonehenge in 1996.
Paul was a friendly face right from the start, full of boyish charm for all the mysteries to be explored with his wonderfull bag of gadgets. He had always been a good friend to us both, a kind, generous, and genuine person who always had a smile on his face and a twinkle in his eye.
I remember some five or so years ago when my husband was experimenting with vortex energy and created a small scale grid network; it was fascinating that Paul was able to map it out with his electronic gadgets. He really was quite a remarkable, clever, and intelligent person. He was a unique individual within the crop circle community and will be sadly missed.
Rachel Sherwood & family.
Links:
There is a book of condolences on Pauls website
http://www.paulvigay.org/
And a article from the Drobe
http://www.drobe.co.uk/article.php?id=2441
Also a nice tribute from Colin Andrews and others at his website
(Note: Colin’s research expanded into the study of human consciousness.
Crop circles offer an exceptional
'keyhole' into the fascinating realm of how our mind interacts with an intelligent and conscious
universe.
His study on the intelligence behind the crop circles and the interaction between this
intelligence and both crop circle researchers and crop circle makers, forms the basis of his current
work.)
http://www.colinandrews.net
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