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Hi Charlie,

A lady from Montana has asked me what you have said about Montana possibly and Yellowstone and what happens with Yellowstone during the Pole Shift and the area of Great Falls, Montana and whether this is a good area or not. I told her I would ask you on these two locations when you have time to come back of course and what insight you have regarding these.

One other question, you had stated that Alaska would wind up being more closer to the equator thus becoming more tropical, what about the east coast states, what location will they wind up being afterwards? Will they be further south, north or what? Like my state of NC will it be located in a colder climate or more tropical climate?

OK enough for this post. Thank you so much.




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Hi Charlie,

One other question, you had stated that Alaska would wind up being more closer to the equator thus becoming more tropical,
what about the east coast states, what location will they wind up being afterwards? Will they be further south, north or what?
Like my state of NC will it be located in a colder climate or more tropical climate?

brightstar


So, where exactly the new north and south poles would be located?

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Eventually, after the contact phase was complete all the survivors (approx. 115 million as history recorded in the timeline I left) were relocated and settled on the safer areas of the planet.


And where are located those safer areas ? 8)

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Post PSA - Posts Go On The Golden Thread, not the index page
Just a brief PSA for the newer readers and registered members;

Some of you have been putting your first post on the index page. When that happens I'm obliged to move them to the Active Mind section, and I try to PM you to let you know that you can copy the post and put it on the last page of the main 'Thread. This is especially true for questions for Charlie. The "Active Mind" section is for putting reference materials and for exploring more in-depth some topics that might be of more interest to your specialty.

Thanks for your thoughtfulness. Carry on.

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Hello to Everybody...

As you see around the world there are fireball sightings and some of them hit the Earth...

When these Anomaly Tail get closser to Earth, these Impactors will increase...

Charlie? What did you recomend for the Meteorite Debris?

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Welcome to the forum, recall15. While we're all waiting for Charlie to answer our questions, I found a tidbit from the early days of the GT in relation to Marci that might put a lot of things into perspective (such as her obsession with academic degrees, which genuine truthseekers are less likely to be as concerned with as the validity of the data):

"To Mr. Hamilton
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Some time ago a certain female investigator faced much the same problem when her website
{the original eaglesdisobey.com website that Majestic ordered taken down after Marci was supposedly 'officially' inducted into MJ-12 in Sept. 2003 - ed.} came under harsh criticism from NIDs and others. She applied the brakes to that runaway train (a train that was designed by the ´powers that be´ to control any upsurge of independent thought that might slip past the carefully arranged public-conditioning). Many people call it the "dumbing down of America" but in reality it is a carefully arranged series of behavior-modification protocols implemented since the late 1940s to cause people to self-restrain any independent thought by embedding an imperative into the cultural subconscious to seek external approval in advance, from academia, media or political entities."

Underlining added to the original.

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"To Mr. Hamilton
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Some time ago a certain female investigator faced much the same problem when her website {the original eaglesdisobey.com website that Majestic ordered taken down after Marci was supposedly 'officially' inducted into MJ-12 in Sept. 2003 - ed.} came under harsh criticism from NIDs and others. She applied the brakes to that runaway train (a train that was designed by the ´powers that be´ to control any upsurge of independent thought that might slip past the carefully arranged public-conditioning). Many people call it the "dumbing down of America" but in reality it is a carefully arranged series of behavior-modification protocols implemented since the late 1940s to cause people to self-restrain any independent thought by embedding an imperative into the cultural subconscious to seek external approval in advance, from academia, media or political entities."





That is most revealing indeed, only more verification for many that felt they already knew of this. Just goes to prove that eventually all so called secret things get exposed eventually and evil powers cannot keep keeping things hidden from the masses continually. Truth always prevails in the end, that is why it is better to just tell the truth to begin with instead of all the lies, manipulations, cover ups, etc etc etc.


Welcome recall15, yes we are waiting for Charlie to have the time to come back again. I am sure he is busy on his end with many things, but he will come back as soon as he has time I feel.



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Charlie,

I too would like to know the best survival tips, if you tell us where to move or when or what we will need. Also how long do we need to plan to be in survival mode, do we need a week, month, quarter year worth of food?

Can we mitigate the effects of crossing in any way, like praying?

What are the soul reincarnate rules? what happen if one takes there own soul? Would that ensure another may survive the crossing, since that person resources are available.

I have children is there something that can prepare them to survive the crossing and beyond?

You mention that worshiping does not provide the soul, but you believe in Jesus and the one GOD, so is it useful to meditate to be in tune with GOD?

During the Galactic Crossing every continental plate gets ripped up and there are earthquakes, water and wind storms, so are there also sun flares or EMP or something that shorts out all electronic devices and cars?

6,000 million going to 100 million, so we are 60 to 1 that we will ascend? reincarnate?, is it better to just let it happen and get regenerated again?

Given that the STS has broken rules of interference, does this allow STO to help more?

The last 3600 year under the rule of STS has been brutal on the human race.
What about the aliens that have broken rules, does this allow STO aliens to help more?

Zeta talk has locations that are safer that others how accurate is this?

You seem to be saying that 2055 is the current time, so we are we are in a big universal time delay of 46 years, so do we really exists? If we are in a buffer of time and space how much can be done to save the human’s that believe in STO?

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Question for Charlie (new star of the Golden Thread)

While chatting with Titor, John didn’t hold our modern society in much regard, he stated over and over that we deserved what we had coming, being that society in 1998-2000 was driven by apathy and materialism. John basically viewed our society as supersized fat and decedent and highly in need for a major shake up.

Also John into much detail about the average lifestyle of those of his time small communal village life with a near socialist common property and common community work eithic.

How is average life for people in your time? Day to day existence?

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Since you’ve been here for some time Charlie what our your views on the current over all state of our current society in 2009?


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Hi Shadygroves,

What happened to John Titor that you are aware of? I learned of him later on, so was not involved in any threads when he was actively posting and all.

Either he got stuck here or maybe he went awol and this is why Charlie was trying to find him or whatever. But if he didn't go back to his time, then reckon where he really is? Just curious what you might know if anything much.


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Shady Groves wrote:
While chatting with Titor,
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he stated over and over that we deserved what we had coming, being that society in 1998-2000 was driven by apathy and materialism. John basically viewed our society as supersized fat and decedent and highly in need for a major shake up.


I agree that some human's have lost the way.
I feel like the human race us is now 20-30% STS, 30-40% sheep-people and 30-40% STO. While some may deserve a rough GC, there are still many good human souls.
Since the political leaders and business corporations seem to mostly to all be STS and have kept us in the dark and lead astray, do we deserve to die? Can there not be something done to help the humans in the GC event?

I certainly hope the future/Aliens beings believe in “love one another and do unto others as you would have them do unto you" and that they don't see informing us of the impending GC as enabling us rather that helping us.

Charlie mentioned that they help ensure fair President elections.
This is something that the D&M sock puppets also claim, are we seeing greater forces at work here?

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(Note: Do any of you remember a UFO landing at night in Alaska? Someone with a video camera not only filmed the strobing lights of the ship, they filmed what appeared to be little humanoids' walking around craft.
The person who filmed it did not want contact with any authorities, because, rumor said he worked for the Government and thought it better he not talk about it. He did say though, later, there was some kind of communication with the beings and they identified themselves as the "Guardian's". It was the first time I heard that name connected to any ET's, and now, in this story...Dex)

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TITAN

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This OOTB sequence began as they usually do, when I laid down to sleep. I looked up at the ceiling to clear the analyzer in preparation for the sleep cycle. The room was dark of course, and I closed my eyes to begin the meditation which would allow me a good nights rest.

Without warning a symbol appeared on the inner-vision screen. It was a darkened silhouette of an oblate spheroid super imposed on an elliptical band. I felt a brief moment of panic. I reacted by efforting to suppress the symbol! Uh! Oh! That was a mistake.

The attempt to suppress only served to cause me to become equal to the vibration of the symbol and Lo!... I found myself out in interstellar space gazing at the planet Saturn which hummed musically in the upper right hand grid of my perception.

I could sense the presence of life all around me and in a way I could not quite comprehend. I could see all around the center of my attention-focus viewing several of Saturn's satellites.

The illusion was perfect. The rings seemed to spin at an enormous rate of speed and the colors were vibrant.

The planet began to recede slowly and I turned my attention one hundred and eighty degrees and beheld a large yellowish-orange sphere with a grayish undercast which gave the ball a slightly jaundiced appearance, a dull yellow-orange.

I thought: TITAN!! And in a wink... I was on its surface looking up at Saturn which filled the sky with its awesome presence.

At this point in linear time I had the sensation of occupying a limited focus of awareness which suggested a physical body which now impinged in my matrix. Being extremely curious I focused on it and finding no evidence of entrapment decided to play the dream out to discover what I could learn from it.

At that moment the dream became physical reality and after getting used to the body I looked around to see where I had located. As a physical identity I found myself in a small village inside a huge crystalline dome made up of geodesic panels of transparent material held together by a lattice work grid of metallic curved ribs interlocking at regularly space intervals to hold the panes. The dome enclosed an area of approximately twenty acres of flat landscape with some low rolling hills. The topography covered with green vegetation of grass, stunted bushes and some small trees which resembled fruit bearing trees I had seen on Earth.

I turned slowly to view the village which was a rather ordinary grouping of domed Quonset huts, non-descript sheds, some larger administrative buildings - also domed, and several large hangars which were semi-cylindrical. The usual roads and paths gave some semblance or order to the village but it looked very much like a temporary construction site or base on Earth; although the houses looked more aesthetic. They appeared to be double-wide trailers simple in design and unadorned.

While I stood taking all this in a sweet voice sounded behind me. I turned around to face the source and beheld a young woman of average height, slender of build with a narrow face, slightly pointed chin, high cheekbones nearly unbalanced the face but instead gave it a strange triangular, alien appearance. The effect was distracting but not unpleasant.

As she spoke I was transfixed by her eyes, so large and blue and all the standard glitches seemed to apply as I flowed into her space and lost identity. If time isn't a measurable constant in six-dimensional reality then let it suffice to say that we bi-located instantly into a dwelling. We stood embodied in a large crowded living room filled with men, women and children who looked like average human beings one would find anywhere on earth, except they were uniformly blond, Caucasian and glowing.

Some were wearing work clothes, some were wearing silvery looking metallic jump-suits but for the most part the majority were informally attired in street clothes which could have been manufactured on Earth.

I was engaged in a monologue with a tall, wiry gentleman with medium length white hair and metallic blue eyes. I was discoursing at length on a meta-physical subject with which I had been involved on Earth and had found someone who was a willing understanding listener. I was amazed at my own grasp of this subject for in truth I had been a rather mediocre student of it. His face was somewhat hawk-like and I felt a bit distracted by the intensity of the attention he was giving to me. From time to time he would acknowledge or interject comments and after a time another comely young woman came up and whispered to him, smiled warmly at me, and excused themselves. I wandered about for awhile sipping from a tumbler of fruit juice, answering questions, nodding and saying hellos but couldn't keep up with most of the conversations which were highly technical or metaphysical concepts which were beyond me in conceptual understanding.

I meandered over to a picture window and looked at a play area outside and also noticed the base of the dome. As I gazed up at Saturn the first girl whom I had encountered came up and touched my shoulder and said: "If you elect to go wandering around outside the dome then beware that old invader electronic spirit-traps abound throughout this system and if you get stuck on one it could destroy your physical body."

"I un-understand. I'm just going into the yard to watch the stars. It's so clear out here and they're so beautiful." A sinking feeling of dread and despair descended into my consciousness as I thought of having to leave here soon.

The girl, whose name escapes me or perhaps they don't use names, told me that her race was wandering in space for a long time having lost their planet in a catastrophe. That they wanted to settle on Earth but were stopped by a large space force who called themselves The guardians who told them the planet was quarantined and that landings on Earth were forbidden due to the inevitability of future cataclysms, natural and man-made.

So while telephoto probes were sent forth to evaluate they waited. I was or still am one of them, one among several thousand of them down here in human bodies and we are sending them data about this civilization so they determine if it's possible for them to creatively interact with us. Except I got screwed and forgot my mission.

The girl wished me well and assured that some day I would return upon bodily death to this group, my group where I would once again return home to stay. She urged me to study and learn all I could about the human spirit as well as the racial history of man.

I went outside, my heart aching with a longing to return home to stay. I turned to gaze up at Saturn oscillating in its awesome beauty, stunned by its enormity and the loudness of its chorus, a billion angels singing and playing the Harps of Space in exquisite harmonies while the great rings punctuate with their eternal rhythms.

At that moment I cognated that the entire Universe was truly alive and Saturn was an aggregate living God of Light and I was about to uncover the Secret of the Universe in its utter simplicity.

....And I awoke. And I knew the secret is there are no secrets except that I chose to forget that I am , myself, a God and couldn't even remember that I could remember or even that I chose to forget.

Was it real? Or was it... Memorex? Bashar tells us that our dreams are actuality - the ultimate reality and that life on Earth is nothing more than... a bad dream. I am learning to wake up and dream. And lately have begun while I'm awake to dream ecstatic dreams. Have begun my long journeys home to the Light!

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hi charlie.Are you on the straight and narrow or someone from internet land having a laugh?If your a time traveller from the future...have a peek back to ...oh...around Dec of 2009 and tell me if have mastered barre chords yet?Thanks,Antz.

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Brightshtar,

I remember well what happen to John.

Titor had three regular hang outs on the net. The TT Forum (more on that later), Art Bell's old Message Forum and he'd do chats on IRC (Internet Relay Chat). John told us that the TT forum and web page was shall we say 'connection' point for him and fellow teams from the future. So Charlie showing up there isn't surprising for me.

John began posting in the Art Bell forum winter of 1998 and threw out 1999 filled us in on the entire story. There were eight of us that really listened there 4 believers and 4 skeptics but Titor took it all in stride. Beginning late 1999 (Fall) John told us that he was AWOL in his planned mission and stopped of in 1998 to warn his family (in this timeline) of what was coming. At the time they were living in Jacksonville Florida area (and would return their in his time line).

Secondly, he told us that he had to wait for a proper "Jump Window" which was due until March - April of 2000. Meanwhile he was living with his Parents in this time line and with a five year old John Titor in this time line calling him "Uncle". Which John commented of fen was a bit strange since he had memories of "Uncle John". John had simply walked up to his parents and introduced himself in this time line.. LOL As John told us they fainted. lol but he was able to prove it that he was their son.

Right after the Bush/Gore election stolen election and court hearings. John started to share with us a dire warning about what Bush was about instill in way of executive orders and how these would be used by the Federal Government at later date to instill a police state. And be apart about the civil war about to come to the United States.

In March 2000 John's Jump Window had come. Last week of March he said good byes to all us. Promised several of us a very 'unique' surprise. and to be on the look out for it. That would prove his story. Told us that his Father would video tape the "Jump" and several of us would see that that tape after he left.

The tape never surfaced.. But ... Several forum members did receive a very interesting surprise..


They received a hand written letter POSTMARKED and sealed in enveloped date Aug 1974. The letters were hand delivered by a third party (lawyer???) to several form members..


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Hi Shadygroves,

What happened to John Titor that you are aware of? I learned of him later on, so was not involved in any threads when he was actively posting and all.

Either he got stuck here or maybe he went awol and this is why Charlie was trying to find him or whatever. But if he didn't go back to his time, then reckon where he really is? Just curious what you might know if anything much.


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Oh wow, now that is a story and a half! Were you able to communicate with those members who received those post marked envelopes? That would really be something indeed. Did any of them post a picture of them anywhere at all that you know of? That might still be on the internet today maybe?

I had read some of what he said that was put on that John Titor materials site a few years ago and remember him telling about the Civil War and with the way things have gotten to date I am surprised one has not happened already with what this government is doing now. And it just keeps getting worse and worse to. I could say more, but not on this public forum for sure! LOL


ok, thanks indeed for this much more.


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Fascinating account, Shady. And just think how synchronistic it is to have you here, who remembered and was an avid participant with the original Titor threads a decade ago, and even an "Uncle John" was in the mix lol! As brightstar asked, it would go a long way to have one of those 1974 letters to look at, together with their postmarked envelopes. Can you make contact with anyone that had received one? I imagine it would've been the talk of the thread back then if they had one and scanned it to prove they weren't talking out their backside.

(AntZ, what's a drummer like you doing learning bar chords?!? :P )

BREAKING NEWS:

A large earthquake of magnitude 6.3 hit central Italy in the early hours of Monday morning, according to the United States Geological Survey. Buildings were reported collapsed in the centre of Aquila, a town in Abruzzo, 50 miles north-east of Rome and close to the quake's epicentre. According to the website of the Italian newspaper La Repubblica, local police said they feared that people were trapped in the rubble and that many people could be injured. Residents in Rome were woken by the quake when it struck at about 3.30am local time. Rafael Abreu, of the USGS described the event as a shallow quake and said that the region had been hit by a smaller magnitude 4 quake earlier in the day. The USGS had earlier estimated that the quake measured 6.7. Abreu said residents in the area should be braced for aftershocks. Abreu said: "This is a significant quake, a shallow quake with possibility of damage and injuries." The country's civil protection services were reportedly being called in to help residents affected by the quake and a local reporter, Nick Pisa, told Sky News that people were assembling in the streets in Rome, which is rarely affected by seismic events, braced for aftershocks. Local reports described furniture rattling and car alarms being set off. The quake was the lastest and strongest in a series to hit the l'Aquila area on Sunday and Monday. Earthquakes can be particularly dangerous in parts of Italy, which is a treasure house of centuries-old buildings.


from RSOE Emergency and Disaster Information Service
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Some of you may have seen this in today's ZT Newsletter. The SOHO images don't lie, though it's always possible someone has 'doctored' them:

The 'Anomaly' Approacheth?

Here is a snip from an email received from COMMAJ17, on March 8, 2005:

Does Dan really know that X is in
the inner solar system?


I believe that Dr. Burisch is aware that an energy
vortex has entered the vicinity of our solar system,
and that several have simultaneously erupted near the
centre of our galaxy. It is from that predicted
vortex that the winged planet will come.
This is only
adjunct with the '2012' issues. Flashcoms concerning
energy disruptions, including the ionospheric ones
presently disrupting the AM band worldwide, always
include his name in the list. Dr. Burisch has a
generous ability to play the shocked child always in
wonder, but he is one of the more connected black
operators in the entire history of such pursuits.



And from the first 'scratch' disc (working data CD) that was lifted from Dan's work product and sent to us:

(sits stunned, scratching my head.....while looking for the 'winged disc' image from ancient Sumeria, that was oddly enough included in the 'scratch disc' that IMNVSBL supposedly had intercepted and sent to us here on the GT back in Nov 2003, I found another SOHO image there. Dated May 28, 2003. The very day Nancy's Zetas claimed the poleshift would arrive. Now what is THAT doing on Dan Burisch's work product?!? Among all the biological and cellular data??? I recall Marci telling me she was in Canada by Jan. 2003 because Dan had told her it "would be safer there". This means that Dan Burisch DOES know more than he's ever let on about the 'White Lie' and his awareness of it.)

Meantime, here's the picture of the 'winged planet' as represented in lore:

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And here's where someone at NASA apparently slipped up last week and allowed the Anomaly to appear in one frame on the SOHO record:

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Here's a close-up of the Anomaly:

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After Titor’s ‘gift’ the eight of us decided for our own security and safety to like ‘scatter!’ lol As you may well know why *points to Sned’s* and the spooks. Before the story hit the mainstream alternative media. Yes all of us did get to see the letters posted by those that received them. I came across one of letter receivers two years ago at Godlikeproductions when I started a Titor thread she revealed herself to me private. Don’t know what’s happened to others.

John did talk extensively about the Civil War II In his timeline it back in 2005-2006 with a serious of Waco type stand offs braking out in the Mid-West. Was brought about the States declaring so verity issues and economic depression. This inturn caused the Federal government to set loose their Dracioan measures on the Mid West, food production suffered. By 2008 the Cold Civil War broke out hot and raged hot until 2012 when China secretly launched a nuke attack on the American East and West Coast. The fall out pretty much destoried much of the interior USA and left society in to collapse “Mad Max Senerio” for about 10 years

Rebuilding began when people took refuge around the last vestiges of society University towns, villages began forming around the universities and rebuilding began there thanks to knowledge and experience.
In Johns time they were still rebuilding but with much of inferstructure gone. They discovered Time Travel and thus sent teams back to savage the technology they would need in the future. John Titor was on these teams.

There are a lot of people that say. “Well there you go! There is no Civil War therefore Titor was a hoax!”

I say wrong! John continually told us that there was a 6-8% divergence between what he knew as his history and our timeline. Yet the Trends were nearly identical.

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Hi D,i've recently started to learn guitar...after 25 years of bashing skins i needed a new challenge!:)These barre chords are a bit of a stretch!!!!!!

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Charlie,

Hope you're still around. Your answers ring clear and true and very helpful.

A few more questions please...

1. What is the Tree of Life?

2. What is the true story of the Tower of Babel?

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Hi ALL,

I was discussing with someone about Charlie and when he might return and I told them I didn't know because even on the TTI forum his visits there were not consistent, so I hurridly went and looked to give them an idea of how he visited that site:

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Let's see now on 9-5-08 Charlie posted, then not again until 9-15-08, then 10-4-08, then 10-6-08, then 10-11-08, and the 12th, then 10-24,25,26,27,28-08, then on the 31st. then 11-01-08 then goes to like 12-8-08, then 1-31-08, then 2-11 to 13-09, then 3-28-09 and the 30th; so he has not been consistent of even being on TTI every day for sure.



So I wouldn't expect him to be back in a timely fashion because I have an idea he is busy at other things and then comes back when he can. I was asked to post this on here for the rest so you know not to expect him daily or even weekly. But so far when he has said he would be back he has returned ok.




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Dean wrote:

Hello again "Sasha (Alex) Lessin, Ph.D."
SITCHIN, ASTRONOMY & OCCAM'S RAZOR:

I've pointed out to you before the simplest, rigorous,
scientifically substantive explanation for Nibiru's non-existence
should you choose to verify it.

The celestial mechanics theorem for a planetary mass the alleged size of
Nibiru entering our solar system every 3,600 or 3,760 years with the
perihelion point of its orbit slightly beyond the asteroid belt dictates
that it would have attracted hundreds or thousands of asteroids to
itself in each passage (causing extinction level events on Nibiru), as
well as sending other asteroids off in the direction of the other
planets and the sun. Anyone who promotes the existence of Nibiru, or
Planet X, cannot provide the celestial mechanics theorem, because of the
existing planetary configurations and the asteroid belt. The undisturbed
asteroid belt is proof positive that a physical, planetary Nibiru of the
Sitchin kind doesn't exist.
Your right when you say: "theories are always influenced by the
mental set of those who promulgate them," and a well-rounded
secular, as well as an unbiased study of comparative religion (including
the esoteric spirit/matter symbolism of "Apsu" &
"Tiamat" in the Enuma Elish), along with experience (age of the
soul) are determining factors of anyone's mind-set.
Best regards,

Dean Sloan – Amateur Astronomer, Flight Instructor (1776089CFI), &
Theosophical Metaphysicist
http://www.qdeansloan.com
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Then maybe it's beyond planetary configurations and any celestial mechanics theorem. Perhaps, it's of a different vibratory origin and phases in and out of our 3rd dimensional wavelength periodically.

What if it's nature is intelligently orchestrated this time around to bring about a great cleansing effect with our world.

I hope not, but, supposedly there is a planetoid size object called Hercolobus and it may be the Planet X people talk about.

ET have mentioned and warned us about Hercolobus.

ET have also mentioned when there's too much preponderance of evil in a world through cosmic law and effect can attract planet killer asteroid's.

Contactee Orfeo Angelucci witnessed a fiery red object destroying a world on screens of the craft he'd been taken aboard and then was told it was an alleged possibility with our planet.

It was up to us to change these potential conditions.
I feel if people were told the truth, and believed it, they'd have a change of heart about the way they presently feel about life.

I hold the intelligence community responsible for our outcome. They've held the key interfering with releasing the information that I believe would rapidly mature our intelligence to enough of a degree, cooperation with other more advanced star cultures could then acceptably assist us with saving our world.

We need their help, their intervention. Time is running short.


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From this website:
http://hospedagem.infolink.com.br/nostr ... 01q017.htm

I - Hercolobus: The Transformation Planet
Compact interpretation on 04-FEB-2004
There isn't a detailed interpretation in English language for this presage yet.
Please refer to the Portuguese Version for the complete interpretation and
the historical follow-up of the facts.

I. 17.
Par quarante ans l'iris n'apparoistra.
Par quarante ans tous les jours fera veu
La terre aride en siccite croistra
Et grands deluges quand sera apperceu.

Translates..
I. 17.
By forty years the eyes won't see it
By forty years all days it will maske a sight
The parched earth will wax more dry,
And there will be great floods when it will be perceived.
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This quatrain talks about Hercolobus. It's a very interesting point what it predicts about the planet. One of the first points is that it is now at sight but we can't see it. It's a very strange statement that make us deride about what really that planet (or whatever it is) really is. The point is that it will appear and one of our possible dates is the year of 2024. If our date is correct, than since 1984 this phenomenon is taking place. But we also have another date, 01-MAY-2028. We shall have to wait.
The third and fourth verses say that when Hercolobus (or Slo) will appear, there will be great floods and a great drought.

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An attempt to forewarn..Looks like he didn't get very far. I hope policy changes about this...Dex
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Italy muzzled scientist who foresaw quake 06 Apr 2009 11:22:00 GMT
Source: Reuters
By Gavin Jones

ROME, April 6 (Reuters) - An Italian scientist predicted a major earthquake around L'Aquila weeks before disaster struck the city on Monday, killing dozens of people, but was reported to authorities for spreading panic among the population.

The first tremors in the region were felt in mid-January and continued at regular intervals, creating mounting alarm in the medieval city, about 100 km (60 miles) east of Rome.

Vans with loudspeakers had driven around the town a month ago telling locals to evacuate their houses after seismologist Gioacchino Giuliani predicted a large quake was on the way, prompting the mayor's anger.

Giuliani, who based his forecast on concentrations of radon gas around seismically active areas, was reported to police for "spreading alarm" and was forced to remove his findings from the Internet.

Italy's Civil Protection agency held a meeting of the Major Risks Committee, grouping scientists charged with assessing such risks, in L'Aquila on March 31 to reassure the townspeople.

"The tremors being felt by the population are part of a typical sequence ... (which is) absolutely normal in a seismic area like the one around L'Aquila," the civil protection agency said in a statement on the eve of that meeting.

"It is useful to underline that it is not in any way possible to predict an earthquake," it said, adding that the agency saw no reason for alarm but was nonetheless effecting "continuous monitoring and attention".

As the media asked questions about the authorities' alleged failure to safeguard the population ahead of the quake, the head of the National Geophysics Institute dismissed Giuliani's predictions.

"Every time there is an earthquake there are people who claim to have predicted it," he said. "As far as I know nobody predicted this earthquake with precision. It is not possible to predict earthquakes."

Enzo Boschi said the real problem for Italy was a long-standing failure to take proper precautions despite a history of tragic quakes.

"We have earthquakes but then we forget and do nothing. It's not in our culture to take precautions or build in an appropriate way in areas where there could be strong earthquakes," he said.

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John did talk extensively about the Civil War II In his timeline it back in 2005-2006 with a serious of Waco type stand offs braking out in the Mid-West. Was brought about the States declaring so verity issues and economic depression. This inturn caused the Federal government to set loose their Dracioan measures on the Mid West, food production suffered. By 2008 the Cold Civil War broke out hot and raged hot until 2012 when China secretly launched a nuke attack on the American East and West Coast. The fall out pretty much destoried much of the interior USA and left society in to collapse “Mad Max Senerio” for about 10 years

Rebuilding began when people took refuge around the last vestiges of society University towns, villages began forming around the universities and rebuilding began there thanks to knowledge and experience.
In Johns time they were still rebuilding but with much of inferstructure gone. They discovered Time Travel and thus sent teams back to savage the technology they would need in the future. John Titor was on these teams.

There are a lot of people that say. “Well there you go! There is no Civil War therefore Titor was a hoax!”

I say wrong! John continually told us that there was a 6-8% divergence between what he knew as his history and our timeline. Yet the Trends were nearly identical.

Shady

So there's a strong possibility that we could be talking about parallel worlds/timelines here. Note I use the word possibility. However, it would kind of make sense that if you were traveling back "along the knotted rope" (sounds better than time travel to me ;) ), you'd split off a parallel timeline that runs concurrently to the real one. It may begin to explain deja vu and all that jazz.

The question is, which timeline(s) might we currently be on, and could they all be converging in the next couple of years?


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eagles disobey wrote:
OFFICIAL UPDATE FROM EAGLES DISOBEY!

FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT READ THIS, PLEASE DO:

http://www.projectcamelot.org/2009.html

DAN HAS JUST COMPLETED A THOROUGH REVIEW OF THE DOCUMENT, AND RECOMMENDS IT TO EVERYONE.

IN THE COMING MONTHS, EAGLES DISOBEY WILL ENDEAVOR TO ASSIST PROJECT CAMELOT IN BRINGING SOME OF THESE ISSUES, ABOUT WHICH THEY WROTE IN A CLEAR AND SUPERB WAY, INTO SHARPER FOCUS, SO THE PEOPLE MAY COME TO A DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF THE EVENTS OF OUR TIMES.


Uncle John here: We live in interesting times and this document just adds to that.


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