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The Truth About Expiration Dates
By Kellene Bishop

What you don’t know about expiration dates may cost you a bundle. Even more importantly, it may cost you your survival. Millions of pounds of food are thrown away all throughout America every year simply because the expiration date says that the food has gone bad. Well, you need to know about the truth on expiration dates, because the prevalent thought is costing you lots of money. Expiration dates exist for one reason, and one reason only, and that’s to protect the legal backsides of the manufacturers. They rarely have anything to do with the quality or taste of the food. Just because an expiration date has come and gone does NOT mean that your food has suddenly turned poisonous, ineffective, rancid, tasteless, or lacking in nutrition. It only means that their insurance or legal liability extends to the date printed on the package.

Examples: I’ve had spices in my cabinet for 5 years and they STILL season my food sufficiently. I’ve used cake mixes over a year past their expiration date and so long as I’m using fresh eggs, oil, etc., the mixes have never let me down.

Taking a few step simple steps towards extending the life of your food storage will help you significantly.

Keep in mind that in ALL instances, storing your food items in a cool, dry place is the optimal condition.

Did you know that sugar is a preservative? Think about it. How many fruits do you buy that come packaged in a syrup? That’s because syrup preserves items. So purchasing fruit in a syrup base will actually ensure that they last longer than a water base. If an item has sugar in it, it’s going to store a heck of a long time longer than its expiration date. Don’t throw it out willy nilly.

Items which contain oil as one of its primary ingredients will go bad shortly after the expiration date. This includes salad dressings, mayonnaise, and meats stored in oil. So pay attention to the ingredients of items which you intend to store long term.

When your stored food requires the addition of other products, such as pancake mix, cake mixes, soup mixes, etc., they will usually taste just fine so long as you add fresh ingredients such as oil, eggs, milk, produce, etc. (I mean really, just how bad can anything taste with fresh grated cheese melted on top? )

Oats are also very hard to store long term, even under ideal circumstances. I recommend storing groats instead and then use a flaker. Groats will store almost indefinitely in a sealed container in a cool, dry environment.

Canned goods are an ideal way to store items. Number 10 cans are common for just about any food product being stored long-term. Boxed items or items in large paper containers are more challenging to extend. They get wet easily, they are porous, and they are easily infiltrated by “little critters.” While they can go as much as a year longer then their expiration dates, care must be taken to preserve their taste and overall makeup. You can seal boxed items via a Food Saver (sealer) and with an oxy packet and doing so can literally double their shelf-life.

The use of oxy packets in your food storage will also extend their life well past their expiration dates. But when storing food items in a 5 gallon bucket don’t use an oxy packet. Since the plastic is porous it’s essentially useless.

Don’t fall for the myth of “not placing your buckets on concrete.” That’s only applicable if the concrete gets heated. If you’re storing anything on concrete/cement that gets heated, such as with the heat of the sun, then yes, the chemicals from the concrete will leech chemicals from the buckets. However, if it’s in your cool, dry basement, you don’t have to worry about putting the storage containers on the floor.

Ultimately storing foods that you eat and rotating them is the best way to ensure they’re edible and enjoyable. But if you’re storing enough for a year, that’s not always realistic. Appetites, convenience, busy lifestyles, and restaurants come into play. I mean really, I could have a years worth of groceries, but unless the electricity is out and all hell has broken loose, I’m definitely going to make my husband take me out to dinner occasionally.

And that’s the truth about expiration dates.

Hey, we all like Don, but MJC gives him way too much credit I'm afraid.

Don got the information here:

ZetaTalk Safe Locations
http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo242.htm

There is a PDF here:
http://www.zetatalk.com/safelocs.pdf

Given the high probability of 90% mortality connected with this ‘event’, it is certainly reasonable for all of us to view, from varying degrees of perspective and with our personal emotions, the inevitable conclusion of this lifetime as a part of this scenario. Such considerations can’t be avoided, can they? Death is a natural part of life, after all, and we will all – at some point or other – make that transition.

Perhaps the more pertinent question for each of us – as you’ve suggested rather puckishly per ‘gaining lots of weight’ - is: Survival for how long, and to what purpose? This is obviously a deeply personal issue and there are no blanket answers. We will each do our bit, in whatever form, as we can and as we are called. (I am thinking here of the stories one sometimes sees after earthquakes and other disasters of babies found alive cradled in the arms of grandmothers who held them safe as they themselves departed...) Selene

I can imagine many old people being targeted, single parents and disabled person's being targeted by small numbers and then large number's targeting family's and other "Alliances" for their stock pile of food and what might be desired and necessities. Unlike the USA and some European counties we don't have the ability to arm ourselves with Guns for adequate protection. Having a weapon like a Gun is not handy for me for killing people but for the intruder to think twice about doing their evil / aggressive / selfish action. The sight of a Gun or a warning shot or worse a non fatal shot could serve to save not only a family but make the intruder change their ways.

Either that or I'm about to grow gills???

Unless of course you're independently wealthy and can run out just ahead of the masses and buy up all the supplies that will keep you comfortable through the shift and immediate aftermath. Consider this: for less than $200 US, you can buy enough ramen noodle soup packs to have 2 a day for a year (until your garden starts producing) and a multi-vitamin for the vitamins you won't get in the ramen. It really doesn't cost as much as you might think, but if you don't take steps now, it'll be a LOT harder when food shortages will make the prices skyrocket.

Shady, you commented:



Not to belabor the point, good Shady, but there is a difference between "disappear" and "never existed in the first place...", no?

And if this guy and his team were part of some black ops project, it's highly unlikely he would ever have given such a bald interview in the first place...He just doesn't sound/read like a scientist talking. Nor does he describe so-called "junk" DNA correctly. And the rest of the article is cobbled together of special pleadings going back to Von Daniken, for crissake... Not that Von Daniken was wrong, but why quote from someone nearly 50 years ago if you're writing about current DNA research?

All in all, sounds like someone trying to push a point of view without good evidence.

Cheers,

Selene

It was with great anticipation that I clicked on your link Shady. After all, I'm always interested in scientific articles related to what we're going through.

But........ there are 4 articles under that topic and the authors have less than what I would consider credible credentials.







And last but not least, the author with no credentials at all.

And what exactly are your credentials Shawnna or Reality Uncovered for that matter to be investigative reporters and so called truth seekers?

The Internet?

There are things called Journalism Schools have to attend at least four years and get a degree. They teach such things and morals and ethics.


Helium btw is a Peer Reviewed Journal.


Shady

Aw Shady. Up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? True such things are instructed. But even though "morals and ethics" are taught in indoctrination centers called college; it obviously doesn't always take. Much like civility.

And what exactly are your credentials Shawnna or Reality Uncovered for that matter to be investigative reporters and so called truth seekers?

The Internet?

There are things called Journalism Schools have to attend at least four years and get a degree. They teach such things and morals and ethics.


Helium btw is a Peer Reviewed Journal.


Shady

Crazy article?

http://www.vaticanassassins.org/2010/07 ... -what-end/

However, what struck me was the 20 april (1889) is the birthday of Hitler and the hole in the helicopter deck with edges facing inwards.

A Great News story and video round up site for news related to Gulf Oil Spill.. Some of it is alternative news sources. But a majority it from true investigative journalistic style and professionalism. This is what the mainstream press is censoring..

http://beforeitsnews.com/stories/in/0000000000000138


Don't know how long I'll be remaining on the Golden Thread.. Geeee all of sudden there is a systematic attempt to have me banned again. L2L and other Ops are getting pressured to have me removed because of my views.

I've gotten another 'warning message' from Don this morning.. Don I respect you. Not only for your courageous actions in the whole Dan Burisch thing, Not only because you your a Rocker, Former Hardcore Yippie Radical that took the 'revolution' to the man. But also for your noble way you defend and believe Nancy Lieder and Zeta Talk. Its commendable.

You above all persons know. I won't accept being denied my right to free speech even if it offends the campus. :)


So just letting my loyal readership know if I disappear you know the reasons why....

You can find me at Facebook page

Boycott BP

http://www.facebook.com/BoycottBP

Co admin of page of 800,000 members.. I must be doing something right.


Take care everyone,


Shady

Edgars F

I will. I try to avoid thoughts of what to stock until I have money in hand, then I start reading the Survival section again. I have gandered there many times. I hang out at the Ning as well, and just the other day someone there suggested "calcium hypochlorite" in the form of "Pool Shock" - it comes in powder form, you mix with water and it makes bleach (think water purification) and it never goes bad, unlike bleach, which always seems to get used up in the laundry...

A gallon size container cost $30 plus tax.

Three heaping tablespoons of the powder is enough to purify about 500 gallons. WoW!

(added both posts to the Survival section)

There are things called Journalism Schools have to attend at least four years and get a degree. They teach such things and morals and ethics.

Helium btw is a Peer Reviewed Journal.

I hate to add this wrinkle to your observation about the difficulties of growing food to a harvest-able condition mjc, and it's sad it must be added to the equation, but a garden will also require armed guard(s) 24/7 as well. It's sad to think that folks will be so hungry that they will raid another individual/group's food source but starving people will do anything to get nutrition. I'm afraid that without constant vigilance the amount of fully ripened and/or seed stock produce from a garden will be gone to theft long before harvest. And then rises the issue of whether the farmer is willing to injure or kill to keep safe the labors of the field. Another decision that will likely redact the thousands of years of civilizing we clever little apes have precariously distanced ourselves from the scrabbling violent creatures from which we claim to have evolved.

Love and good cheer to all. Joy we aren't in such a living hell, Grist

As for the Shady hunters - my commiserations. If you all put in as much time to post about the alleged facts this world is dishing up to place fear in every ones hearts then you would have equally less time to dish up comments about Shady. He is doing a job on the negative, and I for one am greatful he does this as it saves my time researching the same (mostly negatively oriented) material.

If anybody here on GT claims to be so smart as to have the solution to the world's predicament, why don't you get on your soap box and proclaim such. Until then, we all have it pretty good on this forum by sharing our thoughts and discoveries. For one - I challenge ANYBODY to bring one claim by Nancy or any other so called "channel" as to a factoid they claimed to be in our future that has actually happened.

If someone says "this is truth or fact" and someone says "really? well I believe this" and wishes to talk / debate about Shady or say my post then surely this is in all of our interests regardless of personal feelings and or relationships with the posters.

Hi, Simon, MJC and Unified –

Your comments are, indeed, well-considered and heartfelt.



Given the high probability of 90% mortality connected with this ‘event’, it is certainly reasonable for all of us to view, from varying degrees of perspective and with our personal emotions, the inevitable conclusion of this lifetime as a part of this scenario. Such considerations can’t be avoided, can they? Death is a natural part of life, after all, and we will all – at some point or other – make that transition.

Perhaps the more pertinent question for each of us – as you’ve suggested rather puckishly per ‘gaining lots of weight’ - is: Survival for how long, and to what purpose? This is obviously a deeply personal issue and there are no blanket answers. We will each do our bit, in whatever form, as we can and as we are called. (I am thinking here of the stories one sometimes sees after earthquakes and other disasters of babies found alive cradled in the arms of grandmothers who held them safe as they themselves departed...)

For myself, I intend to remain in my urban community where I suspect I will be most useful. Being beyond childbearing age myself, I can now do the most good teaching or helping others to survive where they are. Or: who knows? Perhaps our food and supplies stash will be discovered by others post-shift and save the lives of others? I don’t think any good efforts are ever wasted. If I’m not here, I’ll be delighted if any of my stuff goes to save the life of one single child who then goes on to help repopulate this planet. I will have done my bit. I know I’ve been helped along all through this life by other kind souls who have pointed me towards the ‘next step’ and never expected anything in return.

I’ve learned from all of them that I, too, only work here.

And I’m highly confident that each of you has a talent, skill or gift that will be of service to others no matter how it is delivered.

All my best wishes,

Selene

Dear Brothers and Sisters of Mexico and Latin America—

Our hearts, minds and spirits are linked in prayer with the victims and survivors of the recent hurricane Alex that effected the City of Monterrey, Mexico, the 1st of July 2010. We send all our brothers and sisters there our love and prayers in the spirit of renewal and reorganization.
Let us use the Sacred Expression for their protection and assistance--

Within the changing focus of meteorology, this new aspect of unusual weather phenomena will NOT be an exception to the rule, but the new rule of what we will be seeing more of throughout the world due to Climate Change. We were, however, fortunate that Alex did not come further north to affect the Gulf of Mexico. This for some was a big answer to many prayers. Nevertheless, according to The Academy in Monterrey, many people are now left homeless, having lost everything, with 12 people reported dead. (For more information please see the following links:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100706/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_tropical_weather_mexico_1
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/7869857/Hurricane-Alex-brings-Monterrey-to-standstill.html

Usually hurricanes such as ‘Alex,’ once they move out of the oceans onto land present little danger, but we have seen the onslaught of rain taking place once again. This is similar to what has already taken place all over the world since the beginning of this year from Nashville Tennessee to Poland and southern France.

As we think of Mexico, let us also send our prayers to conquer the gigantic oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, that requires very special technology to reach down to the deepest parts of the floor of the Gulf of Mexico. Let our prayers and visualizations be for a positive vortex of energy that will contain and block the ‘black death’ of oil rushing out from the floor of the Gulf of Mexico, so that other areas are not effected.