So if the zetas turn out to be right, and Indonesia is submerged under water or the North American continent gets ripped down the middle, and then normal people notice that we are in big trouble, will I be able to spend a few days after the horrific event(s) going to the bank and then buying a huge amount of canned and dried food, tent, camping supplies, water filtration, etc.

I live in the Pacific Northwest, far away from the potential 7 events. After the 7 happens (if it happens), will the banks, grocery stores, sporting goods stores still be open and doing business locally? Will there be bank runs or food store runs in the Pacific Northwest after the hammer first falls?

I am assuming there would be a window of opportunity here on the west coast to make moves before the chaos spreads from the disaster zones.

I'm a wee bit of a lurker - fascinating stuff - however the sense of panic in this thread is most disconcerting. I've bought Mountain House survival meals, rice, pulses, dried milk - but whatever happens we are in a city suburb surrounded by scallies who just wait to prey on us. Last month they cut 3 strands of barbed wire at the back of our property - even though all security shutters down at night.
I reckon they'll just barge their way in and grab what they can. There's no way we can move financially. I think 'what will be will be'.....
Let's hope all this is just social paranoia promoted by TPTB - and if not - I'll help anyone in need if I can. I have colloidal silver for infections, and do reiki - if even to calm folk. Let's hope the 'scallies' come to their senses and realise we all have to help each other.... if anything bad happens (glass half full)

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They may strike some blows at first but look what happened in New Orleans after Katrina.

Simon, if I understand you correctly, you were suggesting that the shock to the collective human psyche - over the disclosure aliens/extraterrestrials are real - could actually cause the earth to heave to and fro, its tectonic plates crashing about and causing earthquakes, tsunamis, hurricane-force winds, etc? As if the earth itself would undergo a type of nervous breakdown, paralleling that of its human inhabitants? Interesting.....although I'm curious as to the mechanics of such a theory. I suppose it's not all that different from the SNED's STS paradigm of "pray the catastrophe away; if we all just pray hard enough and meditate long enough on unity, the poleshift won't happen". It's illogical to me upon close examination, but if you've given some thought to this, I wonder how you would explain how exactly that would happen.

...I almost replied on Wednesday afternoon, but whilst half way through typing the message the GT reply window suddenly closed with me being told that I could not reply as I was not logged in (even though I had to log in to open the reply window), promptly followed by my being returned to the most recent page on the GT. My message and all that it contained were lost...

Gidday again,

The "disappearing post" thing just happened to me after 3/4 of an hour typing & posting links.
(It presented a login box)
I said a swear word. Then I clicked the BROWSER BACK button twice & my typing re-appeared. Phew !
I didn't have to log back in after that.

I've read Stichins book & referenced other translations & the most popular return date for Nibiru is 2003.
Of course there wasn't a lot of natural disturbances that year, (not like now), but I thought I would have heard something.
Anyway, I recently discovered some SOHO footage from then which seems to have slipped under the radar.

Not sure if I know how to embed code, but I'll try it.
[YouTube]<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/cX_FE6hOaqk?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param>[/YouTube]

regards Trex.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX_FE6hOaqk&feature=related

At present the masses see the idea that we humans are far more powerful than we could ever imagine as farcical. But if we really are ‘gods in amnesia’ having a physical experience in neutered bodies, so maybe there is more to this concept than we could ever imagine? As you say, non humans have abilities which see them being able to consciously use the power of thought to do things – so why not us too (even in our present neutered states).

But, if this concept is true, then perhaps with our present day war-like nature in mind so perhaps it really is better that we have been neutered – as otherwise we humans would have killed each other off by now?

While following this fascinating discussion, I’ve also been re-reading the DCTP for the first time in several years – and seeing it in an admittedly new light.

So if there is a pause here, DonDep, MJC & MT7, perhaps I can comment on the DCTP?

I’m not certain we know the author of the text, but since it was posted on the EDO website, we can assume that it is intended to represent some “orthodox” thinking of the Majestic or some quasi-disclosure at some level. Having said that, it seems to me that, in classic Maj style, the document contains a certain amount of plausible truth, however baroquely phrased (i.e. hidden in plain sight), and – of course – the inevitable zinger: the misdirection. The twist. The big lie.

The DCTP clearly refers to an “environmental catastrophe” as the unwanted timeline result: an undescribed but evidently irreversible planetary and DNA destruction as the outcome of human foolishness and our synthetic stargate activation as our planet passes through a natural galactic environment of undescribed kind.

This is actually seen as separate and distinct from a cyclical geopolar shift, caused by undescribed (PX?) factors,which is otherwise “normal”.

In other words, this document does not deny the inevitable reality of cyclical geopolar shifts every ~3,600 years – possibly caused by the cyclical return of Planet X/Nibiru – which it seems to consider as “natural” but not “irreversible”, that is: a pole shift is not an extinction-level event (ELE), but one in which the human race survives and the ecology recovers, as it has many times in the past.

What it hopes to avoid (via conscious human action) is the massive self-destruction (ELE) caused by the presence of artificial stargates (pictured in Disclose.tv’s “Aquarius Document” authored by Dan Burisch & Michael Schratt).

That’s all.

Nothing in the language of the references quoted below excludes a geopolar shift followed by a hopefully avoidable environmental collapse brought on by solar weirdness (the ELE).

Importantly, that still leaves “solar weirdness” (that Great EMP in the Sky...) as the “more-feared” event: something totally consistent with NASA’s etc. murmurings about “solar EMP’s” etc.




This suggests that whatever was feared may be in addition to and following an already-inevitable and otherwise survivable poleshift, a natural ‘event’ that happens regularly every ~3,600 years as PX makes its return in orbit.

It’s not an either/or choice. It may be both: 1) poleshift followed by 2) an irrevocable environmental collapse related to a second “solar event”.




Is this “accelerated” and “radical consequences” of a natural pole shift in progress (i.e. one prompted by the cyclical return of Planet X?) the more-feared problem: an “enhanced” pole shift that causes terminal damage to the planet’s ecology? That doesn’t exactly exclude a “natural (i.e. cyclical) pole shift from the agenda, does it?

That is, under normal historical circumstances, mankind and the planet eventually recovers from a regular ~ 3,600 year visit by PX – but under the “enhanced” scenario, we screw ourselves permanently with our own stupid stargate technology because of the concomitant ~13,000 year cyclical crossing of the galactic plane. We botch that. Maybe. But we don’t change the inevitable cyclic motion of the galaxy. No amount of “happy thought” can do that.

The cyclical fact of the joint 3,600 year and 13,000 year (1/2 of the ~26,000 year precessional cycle) phase congruence as the cycles cross the galactic plane together is what has prompted the extra-planetary concerns. (Imagine a large 26,000 year sine wave, crossing its center horizontal axis – the galactic plane - every 13,00 years, accompanied by a number of smaller 3,600 year cyclical waves. At some point, all the waves will inevitably coincide at the central plane in space and time. That’s a description of 2012, more or less.)

A rough diagram. Ignore the specific labels here:



Nothing in this actually supports the notorious (March28? 2009?) “showdown” of DB and the Maj in Las Vegas of the famed “Fran’s transcript” – which remains only a screenplay on the web. No actual proof of said meeting – nor its “all clear, kiddies!” message - has ever been put forward.

Furthermore:



Yeah, right. The power to harm, huh? Sounds like a neat Ultimate Weapon, doesn’t it? And nooooo – Maj would never, ever lie to Dan about how “positively” they’ll use his discovery, would they? Never have him create an Ultimate Weapon while believing that he’s saving the planet and actually waiting use the weapon themselves? Nah, couldn’t happen….



Or maybe that’s just another neatly-constructed LIE?

The good guys remained on the surface while the foolish future J-Rods sought an Ark as shelter…? Right. That will keep all the good-hearted souls stoically helping the others on the surface, away from the Maj shelters – even though the truth is those loyal, good-hearted fools are the ones who will become the DNA-degraded J-Rods while we, the protected and Chosen Aryans, survive to become Orions….mwahahaha!

I mean, think about it: why would those exposed to massive environmental and DNA-destroying cosmic rays in a surface ‘event’ fare better than those who sought shelter underground? And, if staying on the surface was the wiser choice – why would the secret government invest so heavily in going underground?

It’s the Big Lie, children. Stay above, be happy….the spaceships will rescue you…la,la,la…

Anyone who imagines that Majestic is working for the good of humanity….

Just my thoughts.

Cheers,

Selene