Agh hahahaha Dick boylan is a total NUTJOB, Oh MAN!!! he should go and choke on that fake P.HD he got also! AGH HAHAHAHAHA Richard I'd make a better Chancellor of Earth

Reply to MT7’s questions


MT7, thank you for your questions. I hope these answers – or at least my opinions – will prove helpful. (I can make no claim here for my own competence, my comments are only as such…)



The issue of guiding and teaching another younger person/soul is a complex one, of course. An absolute ‘beginner/baby’ needs careful and continuous monitoring, repeated examples of simple behaviors, etc in which the teacher/parent assumes almost complete control of the child’s learning and responses. Infants get praised – or spanked – with alacrity. That is to be expected for a baby.

But as we grow, the wise parent backs off, gradually releasing controls and feedback as the child shows itself capable of handling more complex behaviors. A word here, a ‘no!’ there. And eventually, if we don’t phone home very often, it’s because we’d rather make our own decisions….

So it may be taken as a sign of the evolving maturity of the earthling population that monitoring (if indeed so) ET’s consider us capable of making most of our own decisions and dealing with our own consequences. And that the occasional word or hint ought to be enough to guide us, if we choose to take the advice. It is not an insult, but a compliment to us that we are given such latitude in our decision-making.

It cannot be said, in fairness, that we as a race our unaware that peace is preferable to war, that killing is immoral, that theft or violence… etc. None of the basic behaviors of a spiritually advanced being or society are unknown to us. Some version of The Golden Rule has been embedded in all earth cultures and civilizations of which we are aware. We’ve been told all that, repeatedly and at all levels.

It is the degree that we show ourselves capable of practicing what we already know that determines what further instruction will be forthcoming

After all, what good is it to try to teach a child that cannot yet add or subtract accurately about quadratic equations? Why lecture an infant about imaginary numbers before they can count to ten?

Likewise, it is the degree to which you can practice the basic teachings of peacefulness and service to others in your own life that determines how much further guidance you will receive. As you learn to live and fully understand these practices, you will naturally be given more challenges to learn. That is, quite simply, one of the basic laws of the universe.



Guidance is always available. We only need to listen.

Permit me: I am reminded of an old story here.

Once, a town was flooding. And the minister/priest/rabbi’s home was under threat of drowning. As he sat on his porch watching the townspeople flee, a police car pulled up. “Get in, Father, we’ll take you out of here.” He smiled benignly: “Thank you, my sons, but God will save me…”

But by the next day, the flooding had covered his porch, and the minister sat on the second floor, reading his Good Book. A patrol boat came by. “Get in, Father…” “No, my children, God will save me…” he replied cheerfully. And he returned to his reading.

The third day, the flood had covered the second floor, and the priest sat on his roof. A hovering helicopter lowered a commando with a harness. “Get in, Father!” He waved them away. “God will save me, my sons…”

On the fourth day, the minister found himself in Heaven. “God, what happened?” he said, “why didn’t you save me?”

God shook his head sadly. “I tried. I sent a patrol car, then a boat, finally a helicopter full of commandos….”

So, perhaps, help or mentoring doesn’t always come in the form we ‘expect’ – or want - it to be. Why wait for the proverbial angel with a flaming sword to appear at your bedstead to tell you to practice what you already know? And how good are you at these? (I say this not to single you out, MT7, but to make a broader point.)



Not exactly.

Pain has a purpose.

It is a necessary – if difficult – part of our learning process. If everything we did was rewarded or without negative consequences ….. how would we ever learn that some actions are wrong? How could we ever learn that we need to change or grow into a more evolved person? We’d rather sleep in.

Because here’s the rub: Spiritual development is not a free ride. Good decisions are rewarded, in the long view, but stupid ones get sent back for reworking. And what we will not learn from love , we must learn from pain. Old saying, but very true.

And yes, I am saying that karma takes a very long, multi-lifetime view. We work on certain issues in each lifetime, because to face our full responsibility as a soul all at once would overwhelm us. But yes, there is justice. In the very long run, life is fair. You get what you give.

So, does this mean that ET – or whomever – is insensitive to our suffering? I would say: not at all. I am reminded of the definition of a mother: “Someone who never stops worrying whether her middle-aged children will turn out okay….” Because they may truly feel our pain does not give them the right to interfere in our decisions – or alleviate our consequences, does it?

Does this mean that all pain is ‘punishment’ for some previous wrong, and that we should turn our backs on those who suffer? Not by any means. The question of victimhood is a complex one, certainly. Some may choose such, some may receive such as a consequence. None of us are in a position to judge who, what or why. We – as individuals – cannot know, and very likely do not need to know what is involved in these painful situations. They hurt. We hurt. And if we can help, we have an obligation to do so. That’s all we need to know. Or do.

Help, and compassion, is always worthy, and worth extending to others, if for no other reason than compassion for others increases our own spiritual sensitivity. If you ask: Why will ET not aid us? you must equally ask: Why do I not aid others in need? How evolved, indeed, are you?

That’s enough for now.

I’ll answer further as I can.

All my best wishes,

Selene

To Selene

True and I enjoy the discussion and I do not suppose that your represent ET :)

I agree parenting is job an half, and one does not understand until one has done it.

I agree to a point, it really depends upon the situation, backing off before the child is ready is as bad as over control

Oh if only, I hope it is true.
The problem with the analogy is that the parents are visible and a active part of the child's life.
Another point is the sentiment of ET respecting Humans to make their own decisions, while noble might only be an attribute that is Human.
Are we to assume ET think like us and have the same values, could be true?
Hopefully it is but without a tangible public ambassador how are we to know?
We do not have public diplomatic ambassador.
What we have is perception based off intuition and 3rd hand stories.
I would hope ET has similar hopes, dreams, values and morels.
My concern is I have no real evidence of such behavior.
My desire is not necessarily to have an ambassador, but to have the checks and balances to those fear based, greedy selfish Humans that are ruining everything on Planet

Ah yes and there are powers that prevent it from becoming the standard, which I believe the ET's know more we do on this matter.
Do the ET realize that staying in the dark shadows and trying to pull the string behind the curtain that they them self's are acting just like the oppressor we wish to get out from under of?

I believe that it is the One Higher Power of Love that is making that decision.
Any ET, I wish to be in contact with or receive instruction from must be aligned with the One Higher Power of Love.

True it seems like ET may have overestimated the Human maturity, giving the Humans the yellow book and saucers to play with.
On the other hand they may have underestimated the Human or how fast the Human has grown in 56 years.

Ah yes the dance of the game continues to unfold, and we have front row seat, nice! :)

Yes but make sure it is the source of the One Higher Power of Love.
Too are many disinformation pundits, mole, channels, insiders, etc.
Who have taken a kernel of truth and warp it to malevolent means.
ET have seen this disinformation and there action is........?
It would have been a better Human Experiment if ET existence was kept hidden.
But like the nuclear genie, once out of the bottle the game changes.

hee hee you are right, miracles happen, even ET can not predict everything.

Ah but many Humans are asleep in so many thoughts, and facts.
Even those that are awaking NOW have many attributes still asleep within.
A good Counselor knows that they are telling their client is what they know in there heart but can not express.
But we still need good Counselors.
Is that too much to ask?

Judge not lest ye be Judge.
To better answer this one must change ones self before changing others.
Then one can change the world, by modeling good behavior, by advocating for those who can't, by questioning precepts that have no basis for alignment with the One Higher Power of Love.

Advocating ET blaster rays to slap Humanity to awareness of the rest of the Universe?
Was this the reason for the 911 event?
To slap Humanity?

Insufficient data for that conclusion, conclusion based on ET similarity to Human emotion,which has not been proven.

Indeed you must also ask what have I done to Humanity by participating in the status quo and pretense.
The cover up, the falsification of fact, the mental confusion, anguish over the purpose of existence.
By not speaking up for the truth or trying to find the real truth of the ET's and Human existence.
I agree with your sentiment above, that it should be practiced first by Humans.

Peace be with you
MT7

BEST EXPLANATION I HAVE SEEN - QUANTUM PHYSICS - The double slit experiment
http://video.godlikeproductions.com/vid ... Experiment

Helps me understand that even if I feel powerless, being AWARE and OBSERVING is extremely important.

Mexico convoy threads its way through strange drug war in Sonora state

A heavily armed convoy heads off to deliver pensions to people caught behind the siege line as one drug cartel tries to starve out another in a sinister battle for trafficking routes into Arizona.


Reporting from Altar, Mexico —
With an escort of 60 officers with assault rifles, a convoy heads off to deliver pensions to people caught behind the siege line as one drug cartel tries to wait out another in a sinister battle for scores of human and drug trafficking routes into Arizona.

The police chiefs met in the dusty plaza with a federal official clutching a black bag filled with pesos: $40,000 in government pensions for the senior citizens living in the pueblos of the nearby foothills.

A convoy of seven vehicles rumbled into the plaza, the trucks squeezing between taco and T-shirt vendors who gawked at the 60 or so federal and state police officers toting assault rifles.

The crack squad had captured drug cartel kingpins and battled gangs from Baja California to Michoacan. On this day they slipped on their ski masks to escort the police chiefs on a mission of mercy to a lost corner of Mexico.

They would be heading deep into the scrublands of the Sonora Desert where hundreds of cartel gunmen controlled the pueblos and ambushed intruders on hillside roads that have become blood-spattered shooting galleries.

The convoy was outmanned, outgunned and probably didn't even have the element of surprise. Cartel lookouts — they could be anybody: taxi drivers, store owners, fellow cops — had no doubt already tipped off the organized crime groups. Cellphone conversations were routinely intercepted.

"I'm talking here and the mafia is listening," said one commander who, like many police, residents and officials, spoke on condition of anonymity out of security concern. "They already know we're coming."

The convoy turned past the small church and the local newspaper office, its windows blasted out, and ran every red light and stop sign leaving town.

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This is Mexico's hidden drug war.

Ciudad Juarez and other violence-torn urban areas may rack up large body counts and capture headlines and presidential visits. But here in the northern part of the state of Sonora, two of Mexico's strongest drug cartels are waging a battle for scores of human and drug trafficking routes into Arizona that may be just as sinister.

One of the gangs is using a slow, bloodless strategy of patience over confrontation: It's trying to starve out its rivals.

The result is a siege of medieval proportions that has cut off a region about the size of Rhode Island from government services, and severed a lifeline to thousands of ranch hands, storekeepers and retirees. Few dare leaving on the roads, and even fewer brave going in.

"Nobody will guarantee my security," said Juan Alberto Lopez, a consultant who was supposed to drive up into the foothills for meetings with pueblo officials. "They told me they would come down to Altar," he said. "But they haven't shown up."

The war escalated this summer when Beltran-Leyva cartel gunmen took over the string of pueblos and ranch lands stretching 50 miles from Altar to the Arizona border. Their foes in the Sinaloa drug cartel have since surrounded them. They patrol the four main winding roads leading in and out of the hills and block almost all food and gasoline shipments.

There have been massacres and scores of kidnappings, but the war has gone largely unnoticed because of its remoteness, intimidation of journalists and the slow-motion tactics.

"The problem is that one gang is hiding out, very well concealed," said a high-level Sonora state law enforcement official. "And the other group wants to get them out, to restore control over that area."

Caught in the middle are an estimated 5,000 people who every day wake up with questions: Were there any kidnappings overnight? Have the gunmen taken over another ranch? Are there any tortillas in the store?

One grandmother in Saric, grief-stricken over the kidnapping of three sons, said she tried to get help from the mayor, but he hasn't been seen in days.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld ... 0678.story

This is who predicted the sighting...Dex

Norad Officer Predicts Huge Ufo Display 13.10.10

http://ohlundonline.blogspot.com/2010/1 ... splay.html

http://ohlundonline.blogspot.com/2010/1 ... splay.html

Has been removed by user, as of 0845 MDT 17Oct10

Here is an interview that has yet to be removed. He mentions October 13 at the end of the interview, and is pretty sure of it, but also adds that 'it may be November or December. But it will be this year.'





He's pretty spry for being a WW2 POW. Actually, most WW2 Vets I know are pretty spry. I'm gonna have to start smoking Lucky Strikes and having eggs and bacon every morning. So much for 'not smoking' and 'cholesterol.' JMO

Interestingly, when I searched 'Stanley A. Fulham' a number of sites were linked suggesting it is all a psy-op.

http://acidpulse.us/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3437

One guy searched the book, first published in 2004, and found that:



A google search for the book turns up Amazon, which says it's out of print. Then the review at the bottom of the page begins:



One person found one copy somewhere for $109

Damage control? (c:

When it comes to those ETs that Selene and Mountaintiger are talking about, I just hope they aren't all on the same team. I seems to me that the active ETs see Earth as a resource, and we humans are the prime crop. I would characterize these active ETs as selfish beings.

Now I'm hoping there is in fact an ET group that is clearly benevolent towards the Earth and its creatures, us included. It is discouraging that this ET group is doing such an amazing job of remaining true to the prime directive. It's almost as if they weren't even here. Which is what the problem might be.

I'm hoping that they make an appearance soon, that is if they exist.

Here is a *live* webcam of the San Francisco Bridge on October 13, 2010

Be patient - it's "disconnected" a couple of times.

On the so-called 'soul vote', the 'point of no return', the evolution of humanity, etc....



Sorry for the delay, seems I'm running a couple pages behind, but sometimes I have to ponder a question for awhile before I can respond, and it's been a rather busy weekend.

You said, "But with respect to collective evolution, wouldn't you say that the human race failed... at some point in time... perhaps before or just after WWII?" I might be inclinded to agree with "just after WWII", but certainly not before. WWII was the last world-wide conflagration in which good and evil were much more clear-cut choices, despite the fact that the individual citizens of the nation-states constituting 'evil' forces were often themselves what could be called 'good'. The PTB of those nations making up the Axis exploited their entire nations in pursuit of evil and racist objectives, and the citizenry dutifully followed orders. On the other hand, the PTB of the Allied nations (those who came together to fight the tyrannical regimes and prevent them from achieving their evil objectives) early on were often supportive of the PTB in those very Axis regimes they subsequently pledged to fight. I'm talking about the likes of the Duke of Windsor (the one who abdicated as King of England so he could marry the American divorcee Wallace Simpson, who became the Duchess of Windsor), and George Bush ('Poppy' Bush), along with the Dulles brothers, who were eventually punished (lightly) over their breach of the Trading With The Enemy Act. Henry Ford, too, was an avid supporter of Hitler early on, as were many other American industrialists. Even Charles Lindbergh was a 'Nazi sympathizer'.

But to return to the issue; despite the cross-over of sympathies, the war was very stark in the differences between the Axis and the Allies, differences that had less to do with national interests than with overtly evil goals, and thus was a major demonstration of opportunity for conflict between "good and evil". Humanity 'evolved' markedly in those war years and the aftermath, and that probably played a huge role in the alleged 'soul-vote' that took place in 1946 as to the future orientation of Earth. Being that Earth is one of the "battleground" or "schoolyard" or "proving ground" or "soul garden" planets, a concept borne out in the generalized nature of our entertainment industry (Hollywood flicks, the 'stuff of which dreams are made of', are most often tales of conflict between good and evil when it gets right down to it), it's logical to think that indeed such a time would come that would allow for such a "soul vote" to take place in the life of such a world. Why wouldn't it be? How else, other than registering the sympathies (the 'vote' was an instant registration of every soul's proclivites as of that time) of the 'students' and determining whether they would graduate to a world is which indeed "all are one", cooperating with each other, or would prefer a world in which their 'self' would take pre-eminence and all else available would be subordinated to the desires of that 'self'.

This alleged 'soul vote' is what you refer to as that 'point of no return'; once that vote was taken, the Prime Directive law was allegedly (and logically; if told your side lost, and you're the kind whose side doesn't like being told they lost so you try to 'steal' an election) broken by the so-called "ST" ETs, who wanted as large a share of the soul harvest as they could get and subsequently 'broke in' and wooed Majestic with promises of salvation, wealth and power - beginning with their first 'invasion' at Cape Girardeau, Missouri in 1941, when it looked the darkest for the allies. That was when the human PTB first learned for a fact that there were Others in the Universe, and heard the first whisperings about the 'Big Event' coming. We also, as of the end of WWII, were rapidly becoming a technologically advanced civilization, thanks in large part to the accelerated R&D that comes from war funding. Sadly, our spiritual development lagged considerably, with organized religion using the same texts, the same rigidly-circumscribed paradigm, the same costumes, etc, as they had used for hundreds of years. Yes, it's true that the following decade (the 1950s) saw the growth of the 'contactee' movement and the many cults and splinter groups breaking off from organized religion, and the cultural explosion that occurred with the refinement of electricity a decade after that (fueled perhaps by the re-incarnation of the war dead into the bodies of the 'baby boom', bodies that subsequently grew up to challenge all manner of discrimination and pushed the envelope in all areas of the culture).

However, those many baby boomers went on to have children, some containing reincarnated souls and some simply awaiting situations involving moral dilemmas serious enough to spark a new soul. After Vietnam, which was nothing like WWII, children growing up in the suburbs of the West (that included western Europe as well as the US and its 'empire') faced very little in the way of physical challenges. Their challenges had more to do with abstract choices. Now we're about to be faced with a situation where all those abstract choices are going to come into play. The 'final test', prior to graduation, if you will.

One more thing, about the timing of the whole "soul vote", etc. One of the criteria in determining the timeline to transformation has much to do, in my mind, with the ability the child has in evolving to a point where he can master nuclear technology to a point where he can destroy or otherwise render uninhabitable a given world. We achieved that at the close of WWII with the dropping of two atomic bombs on Japan.

Isn't it chillingly coincidental that we reached the plateaus required for a 'soul vote', just ahead of the cosmically-immutable cyclical event known as a poleshift? Since then, we've mastered material technology to the point where we can implant a microchip in each of us that contains all the data necessary to control us via any sphere of life? Medically, socially, economically, intellectually, politically? Even, depending on how 'aware' we are, spiritually?

So all in all, I don't think we stopped evolving even just after WWII, we just stopped evolving in certain areas, and those for certain reasons, each connected to the foretold "Transformation".

Just my too sense in response, fulcanelli. I do appreciate your questions, and think they need to be asked by those who haven't come to any conclusions. Too often someone might feel too intimidated to ask, or don't feel they can ask something without employing ridicule, or they may even be so convinced of their existing paradigm that anything that conflicts with it shouldn't even be examined for any logic. This is why I always appeal to logic when I'm in a disagreement; "I've shown you mine [logic], now you show me yours". Unfortunately there's much more disagreement out there than there is logic for it.

There are indeed, imo at least as per my info, off world beings that are benevolent towards humanity midnight. They are referred to as UT's or Ultra-Terrestrials since they come from the higher planes. I also believe that these beings will appear on Earth when necessary to "assist" those who know how to call upon them, or by being in the correct landing zones. Similarly there are ways to differentiate between negative ET's and UT's when it may be necessary to ensure you don't alight a ship destined for a prison world...

I agree, Sky, for the most part with what you said. I do think that benevolent (the so-called STO ETs, or UTs) beings DO respond to our calls, whether they use the standard form of prayer or deep meditation or whatever. In fact, they eagerly wait to be "called" by us, whether they're STS or STO. And ET/UT really IS divided into two distinctly different camps. Some of us make selfish calls, and get soothing promises based on what we're known to want, whether out of jealousy, envy, lust, hatred, etc. Often those that make calls on behalf of others see their hopes realized, though usually not in the way they imagined. Sometimes those hopes are dashed, though more often than not, an "understanding" is reached on a soul level, even if it isn't reached within our conscious mind.

We also have a problem of expecting ET to rescue us, to "save the day", and this is an unfortunate expectation. Selene, you gave one of the most eloquent explanations of exactly why that shouldn't be the case. Just because ET CAN "save the day", and take us all away to "heaven", does not mean that ET SHOULD. In fact, it would probably be the WORST thing for an accurate soul-harvest.

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By the way, did everyone notice last week that there were 33 (THIRTY-THREE) Chilean miners that were deep inside the earth, and they were all successfully brought out into the light? I'm sure the Cosmic Jokester had something to do with that, laughing as he is somewhere in the cosmos...... they were all rescued on the day in which 2 record-breaking earthquakes occurred; the 5.1 in Oklahoma (never had THAT large of an earthquake there, as noted in the local media) and the 7.1 in China in which at least 600 died and another 9,000 displaced.

Sky, you say there are ways to differentiate between negative ETs and UTs, who are positive. Could you elaborate a bit on how to do this?

That's precisely the point, Avid. And as you so superbly demonstrate, point taken! Here's the brief comment about that from last week's questions/yesterday's answers on the ning:

At 4:00 on October 13 Qinling event - it is reported that at four o'clock today, a village in the Qinling mountain inexplicably disappeared. Now the military has cordoned off the area. According to the eyewitnesses, a UFO was flying around. The snakes in Qinling Mountains have fled away, and there were also insiders who said that this was a nuclear accident in the nuclear base in the Qinling Mountains.
[and from another] Sohu News: on October 13, a news about " a village in the Qinling Mountains disappeared overnight" is passing crazily on the network, especially in the micro-Blogs . After many investigation, the journalists have confirmed that it's totally a rumor spreading on the internet. "There are a large number of troops sealing off the scene." The Reporters today (13) asked respectively Shaanxi Provincial Public Security Bureau, Shaanxi Military District, and Hanzhong, Ankang, Baoji, Xi'an, Shangluo cities which surround the Qinling Mountains for confirmation, but the concerned parties answered that they did not receive any relevant reports, and indicated that the news should belong to the rumors on network. The reporter from Xianyang saw two circular and luminous bodies rotating in the sky constantly as soon as he got into dowtown area of Xianyang. This is from Xianyang citizens : "it seems that these bodies have been there since over eight o'clock at night, which are crisscrossing the sky. Nearly two hours have passed until ten o'clock in that evening, there are still many people standing outside watching them, and everyone said that they had never seen such a phenomenon." A Xianyang citizen:" I thought it was a light shooting back and forth." Although lots of people have such a speculation, they can not find the the lamp posts and the light source. With all these doubts in heart, the journalists started driving in urban areas, trying to find the source of light, At last reporter found the answer in Thai Square near Xianyang City Bank .Half past ten or so, the spotlight in the square went off and the unknown luminous bodies disappeared, it seemed that it was only a false alarm. It is likely that the unknown luminous bodies have been explained for the right reason , but this phenomenon happened not only in the city of Xianyang. Today a lot of troops headed for our county from Xianyang highway .The High-speed roads have been closed. [and from another] China's response: According to some Chinese sources the whole thing was done by some Drunk Teens and has gone stupidly crazy all over the web. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsovOIUmJTU There is a blog also below the youtube video.


SOZT
Note the date of the supposed event – October 13, 2010. This was a spoof, where the locals hoped to be included in worldwide hysteria over the supposed mass sightings of UFOs over all the world’s principal cities. The October 13, 2010 event did not happen, but if it happened the local residents hoped to put Qinling Mountain on the map! This is equivalent to teens calling in a false fire alarm at school to see all the action. The UFOs turned out to be spot lights shown on the sky. Just what village is supposed to have disappeared is never established, nor any proof of a former existence. A few phone calls and claims made, and boom, everyone in the world is talking about it. Just what the kids wanted.
EOZT


Oct 13 New York - A dozen shiny objects hovering over Chelsea this afternoon sparked speculations of UFOs on the West Side. Ominously, yesterday there was supposed to be "a massive UFO display over the world's principal cities," according to "Challenges of Change," a book on extraterrestrials written by Retired NORAD Air Force Officer Stanley A. Fulham. Callers began phoning the NYPD and Federal Aviation Administration around 1:30 p.m. with reports of strange, silver objects flying high in the sky over Manhattan, authorities said. http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/201 ... 2010-10-13 [and from another] UFO Sightings in New York As Crowds of People Stare Into The Sky. Confirmed by Multiple News Networks [Oct 13] http://theintelhub.com/2010/10/13/new-y ... -sighting/ We normally wouldn't cover a set of UFO sightings but seeing as a retired NORAD officer claimed that their would be an alien invasion today this seemed very important to document. Today reports of UFO activity over New York City went ultra viral. Twitter erupted with reports of numerous unknown objects in the sky. This story has gone so viral that ABC and The New York Daily News are now reporting on it. We should remain skeptical as to the origins of this sighting until proof is put forward. Remember the retired NORAD general who predicted a UFO visit on October 13, 2010? [and from another] Can the Zetas please explain the worldwide UFO displays in many major cities on October 13, 2010? http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blog ... of-all-the [and from another] October 13th UFO Prediction - Worldwide UFO Display On October 13, 2010 : NORAD Officer http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2010/10/pred ... er-13.html According to newly-published book "Challenges of Change" by a retired Air Force officer, Stanley A. Fulham, tentatively predicts October 13, 2010 as the date for a massive UFO display over the world's principal cities. According to the author, the aliens will neither land nor communicate on that date; they are aware from eons of experience with other planets in similar conditions their sudden intervention would cause fear and panic.

This past year, just in the most recent months in fact, there have been mass sightings of triangular UFOs over Moscow, China, Taiwan, and West Yorkshire. There have been duet UFO displays over Victoria and Minneapolis, and duet displays over Guadalajara and Brandenburg. There have been displays sending warnings to Vladivostok, Uruguay, and a monstrous mothership seen over Hangzhou which could be seen several provinces away and closed down air traffic in the Hangzhou air field. All of this captured dramatically on video, available on the Internet, and documented by Nancy in her newsletters and in the weekly chats. By comparison, and dancing light in the skies on October 13, 2010 in New York City or San Francisco is trivial. Trivial! So why the excitement and news coverage? Because man likes to think he is in control, and can call down a ship on command. He cannot.



Despite the arrogance of a retired NORAD officer, Stanley Fulham, making a prediction of a "massive UFO display over the world's principal cities", nothing of the sort happened. Did Paris and London and Rio and Hong Kong and Beijing have any sightings? Are 3 tiny dancing lights in NYC a "massive UFO display"? If man cannot call down ships, then why did any UFOs show up at all? Because this puny display slammed into the news, and had all manner of heads turned to peer at the skies! Unlike the coverage given legitimate mass sightings, which get squelched in the news, this broke into the news.

Disclosure=1, Cover-up=0.

Does this prove that retired NORAD officers are in the know, and in contact, and can control UFO displays?

Aliens=1, NORAD=0.

The visitors control when and how they will create displays, which will be on the increase greatly in the months ahead. In comparison, and as it will be in memory, October 13, 2010 is a fizzle.

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Then there's the bit about Clif High and HalfPastHuman (HPH):

Can the Zetas comment on Clif High's webpage (halfpasthuman.com) and the strange shutdown? Is it in any part related to the bot hit for November 8-12th? [and from another] http://www.halfpasthuman.com We're baaaaack! Ok, so not all the way, but as of today, October 14, 2010, the new halfpasthuman server site has a page. Unfortunately for y'all, it is this page. Damn. Nothing here! But soon we will rebuild all the whozeewhatizits and such. So, if you care, check back in a small time, perhaps something will have changed. Ooohhh playing with universe. It is only when we remember that we are individually quite mad that universe makes any damn sense at all. Ain't pi peachy? [and from another] http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thr ... pid9728510 Tuesday October 12, 2010 Clif's Website Taken Down Clif's website http://www.halfpasthuman.com has been taken offline by his internet provider, although there is no known financial reason for this to have occurred. Clif has been stonewalled by the ISP as to reason for the site doing down. His next anticipated release was scheduled for this weekend, but at this point in time, it is unclear whether it will be able to be posted because of the ISP issues.

The blame for downtime on the HPH website is that some kind of misunderstanding or malfunction with the ISP occurred. Bills paid, public interest, HPH planning to continue and poof, the website is offline! Perhaps the accountant failed to register payment. Perhaps someone at the ISP secretly plotted to bring them down or embarrass them. Since such an occurrence is extremely rare, in fact literally unheard of in today's Internet world, no one is actually buying this excuse. What happened? HPH prides itself on relaying the future with enough accuracy that its clientele continue to pay generously for the reports. But they have deliberately stayed away from any predictions on the crustal shift which is in mankind's future. In fact, they have gone out of their way to cast aspersions on ourself, as aliens who could not be trusted.

Meanwhile, all our predictions keep coming true! There stands Planet X next to the Sun, displayed on SOHO images almost daily. The plates are starting to move in accordance with predictions we gave to the public almost a year ago, when such plate movement was not in evidence. What will become of HPH when the Zetas strike it big, and there is no question that our predictions, provided to the public for free, were accurate but they, HPH, missed entirely? Why is HPH staying away from what is obviously on the public's mind? It is not that they cannot pick this up in their pattern analysis of word frequency and association. They discard this information on purpose, and ascribe any public anxiety to other causes. They are leaned on, and told that support of the ZetaTalk message, in any manner, is not to occur. If a lack of compliance with these orders are sensed, a warning is sent. This was a warning!

from http://poleshift.ning.com/forum/topics/ ... 4#comments

DonD, I must respectfully disagree with you when you say you don't think it is a call answered when a request to benevolent beings is offered up to have confirmation of communication. I personally know of two people on this planet that have given evidence of such occurrences (one has written on this forum of such experiences) and there are accounts of many more amongst the many thousands of people who believe and actively practice their new found beliefs in such matters. It is a deeply personal experience and not part of the humdrum where many folk expound in the MSM what they claim to be fantastical experiences and knowledge, for some sort of status or gain they desire from it. The process is one of commitment to faith and acquisition of such knowledge with understanding in a life changing experience. I do not think you will easily come across such knowledge without being prepared to do the work it takes. That is not to say it is not available to all who truely seek - as we all know of the famous quote "Seek and ye shall find."

This information is given under special conditions and with understanding that there are many who desire the easy way out just to be able to hit the proverbial jackpot of "winning the lottery" literally!

And as to the "33" miners being a number aligning with historical significance, please note that each of them received a Bible whilst trapped by unilateral request. That was the significant piece of info I read in the press today - in my personal belief!

Midnight - the terms of greeting that can be used in unexpected encounters are based upon sacred words that may be used for recognition. Beings not aligned with the Light will vacate in such approach as they have all sworn allegiance against the Light ( the Ain Soph Or - The Limitless Light ) and will retreat, for they know that by going against such they could face the ultimate outcome. If you are interested, rather PM to take this further.

It should be understood that all "humans" have access to this information and it is sad that few take up the call. The path to redemption IS narrow and difficult.

"Without Knowledge there is no Light"

Sky, I don't think that's what I said, and if somehow that's what came across, that's certainly not what I meant. I know of many 'contactees' who have asked for and received confirmation of communication. My exact statement was: "I do think that benevolent (the so-called STO ETs, or UTs) beings DO respond to our calls, whether they use the standard form of prayer or deep meditation or whatever. In fact, they eagerly wait to be "called" by us, whether they're STS or STO."

Did I miss something, or did you?

From USGS - I didn't feel it but it was pretty close to me! We never get quakes around here. Well, we didn't use to anyway.



Magnitude 4.3
Date-Time

* Wednesday, October 13, 2010 at 14:06:30 UTC
* Wednesday, October 13, 2010 at 09:06:30 AM at epicenter
* Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones

Location 35.191°N, 97.320°W
Depth 13 km (8.1 miles) set by location program
Region OKLAHOMA
Distances 10 km (5 miles) ESE of Norman, Oklahoma
35 km (20 miles) SSE of OKLAHOMA CITY, Oklahoma
40 km (25 miles) WSW of Shawnee, Oklahoma
60 km (35 miles) ENE of Chickasha, Oklahoma
Location Uncertainty Error estimate not available
Parameters NST=118, Nph=118, Dmin=41.6 km, Rmss=0 sec, Gp= 25°,
M-type=regional moment magnitude (Mw), Version=V
Source

* Oklahoma Geological Survey, Leonard, USA

Event ID us2010ciay

I felt my first one this year and although it was mild it sure makes you respect Mother Nature.

Our epicenter was HUNDREDS of MILES away in another Province yet it was enough to LITTERALLY shake buildings in downtown Toronto

See this thread for more
viewtopic.php?f=46&t=2070

Glad your ok Wyz

That's the one they upgraded later to 5.1, Wyz. Here's but one of the write-ups about that:



Check out the bullet topics on the right at that link:

> Even in January, Earthquake in Haiti was Not the First to Top 7.0 In 2010
> Earthquakes Shaking Parts of Oklahoma
> 2010 to be the Year of the Earthquake?
> 3.2 Earthquake Near Chickasha, Oklahoma
> Meer Store and Restaurant, Meer, Oklahoma
> Shaking and Rattling in Memphis
> Recent Increase in Seismic Activity?

At the link for "Shaking and Rattling in Memphis", you'll find this little snippet:



New Madrid heating up and the beat goes on.......

MAJOR OOPS _ DonD, My apologies!!! I musta had crap blades on for lenses as it was way past my bedtime - Lol. Maybe it was just coz I needed to tell the story??? I had spent some hours reading up Nancy on ZT in the Q&A sections you listed, which I did find quite interesting - since I have not been there in 6 years!! The Africa bits really intrigued me.

Your statement was well clear and I am in agreement - second time round....

Hi everyone,

This is what it's like having schizophrenia!

Gidday,

My 2-bobs-worth about 9/11.

Anyone who thinks Arabs stood down NORAD for a day & executed the crash into the WTC's hasn't done their homework.

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/pag ... 1750545536

Some of my quotes from this FaceBook thread:



One chop with an ax, won't cut down a tree folks.
<= See the tiny little aeroplane ?
<= See the great big hurricane-proof building ?
Blind Freddie could see the truth.





An airliner can bring down a World Trade center, but it can hardly punch a hole in the Pentagon.



According to my research into ancient history the demolition of the "Twin-Towers" is supposed to signify the initiating of War against the Asian races... 700 foreign bases world-wide & they haven't got one in China yet.
To a lesser extent it was done to get rid of one of the world banks that was based there. (The pot was getting too small after the expenditure on Moon & Mars bases.) Forget which one, (sorry) but it was dissolved a few months later.

Building 7: Building 7 was "pulled" according to it's owner, on national television, (the very next day). This is a "controlled demolition" terminology referring to the controlled explosion of a building. Interesting that the witness prior to the explosion in building, (willing to talk), is now dead. As are most of the witness's willing to talk. The "madame" who supplied hookers to those deviates who knew, stated publicly that she wasn't going to commit suicide prior to her appearance at the 9/11 hearings. She was found dead from "carbon-monoxide poisoning" the next day. It was ruled a suicide.

The missile that hit building seven, missed the WTC.
It takes a week to set up a controlled demolition of a building like that:
Not one day....... They got rid of the Silverstien clip straight away.



It will be interesting as to how this one plays out between now and 2017.
I'm tipping November 28th for the next false-flag operation & the attack on Iran by mid-2011. (by Israel first).
Then a "resolved peace", involving Orwellian control measures.
2015 for the fully blown war against US cities. (Civil war at the same time.)

Maybe we can manifest a peace that doesn't involve Fascist Totalitarianism...
It will take everyone taking responsibility & creating this reality at once.

Go peace !

Trex.