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f**king spammers you too L2L my internet account has now got Mailer daemon failure notices :headbang and VIAGRA adverts I've been accused of spamming James Casbolt's and D&M&Mardi-gras E-Mails Which I NEVER DID!!!!.


Freak - sounds to me like you have a virus. You need to run your anti-virus software and make sure you are clean.

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f**king spammers you too L2L my internet account has now got Mailer daemon failure notices :headbang and VIAGRA adverts I've been accused of spamming James Casbolt's and D&M&Mardi-gras E-Mails Which I NEVER DID!!!!.


Freak - sounds to me like you have a virus. You need to run your anti-virus software and make sure you are clean.


I fixed it got in touch with the company and they have told authorities!

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George Lucas believes the world will end in 2012

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Seth Rogen was left stunned by a recent encounter with his movie-making hero George Lucas - because the Star Wars director spent 20 minutes telling him the world would end in 2012. Rogen was left speechless when Lucas and Steven Spielberg joined a movie meeting he was a part of - but the encounter has left him worried his life will be over next year.


wenn.com via torontosun.com

Continue reading, at the link below:

http://www.torontosun.com/entertainment/movies/2011/01/18/16927446-wenn-story.html

Through money and access, it would seem George has some inside information... or perhaps, simply the same information that's right in front of us all, already... only more so.

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The Coming Pole Reversal

What it will be and what it won’t be

First off, let me say that I am not a geologist or a mathematician or anything like that. I am an electronics technician, nothing else.

I have been reading on many internet web sites of a coming apocalypse in the 2012 time frame and have tried to fit all of the information into a time line.
This is what I have found so far, I will list the location where I found the info so you can check it out for yourself where possible.

1. NASA has reported a ribbon of ionized gas at the edge of our solar system which they don’t understand
(ref. http://www.ibex.swri.edu/archive/2010.09.30.shtml)

This is the “Ribbon data
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This is a picture of the satellite that acquired the data shown above
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2. A Boeing Whistleblower was so scared of the information that he overheard in NASA that he quit his job and moved to Texas & bought a farm and went off the grid so to speak. (ref. http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum ... 005905/pg1)


3. The magnetic north pole is moving towards Russia at a rate of 40 Km per year (or faster, it could have sped up by now) Previous speed of pole movement was in the range of 10 Km per year ( ref. http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/lookin ... field.html) 12.29.03

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also see http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 113513.htm

4. We are approaching the 2012 solar max in which the suns magnetic field will flip. This is apparently a regular phenomena and nothing in and of it self
to be concerned about. http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/sc ... st15feb_1/

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5. The solar system is moving above the galactic plane
(ref. http://www.zaradia.com/id52.html)

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6. The Q94-109A Document authored by Dr. Dan Burisch (I.E. the Ganesh Particle) has been acknowledged by Caltech
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/dan_b ... isch_8.htm http://www.rense.com/general33/searcasdh.htm
This is significant because the Ganesh particle can be used to cause or induce genetic mutations in various life forms.

7. The heliosheath of the solar system is squished http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/sol ... phere.html
The significance of this will become apparent as our solar system moves above the galactic plane it may cause other magnetic phenomena
To occur which may include Earth.

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That being said and documented, a few observations on my part:

1. Planetary pole reversals have happened in the past. The last one occurred 780 thousand years ago, the second to last was 300 thousand years before that, of the last four or five the average period is 400 thousand years.

2. The planet went for several million years without pole reversals at certain times in the planets history (see item 3 below)

3. There will NOT be earth movements as seen in the movie 2012 (at lease I don’t think so) the reason I say this is the rock record of previous polar shifts do not have similar major shifts in the continents. In other words if the planet self destructs every time a pole shift occurs there would be evidence of that, which we would see in the rocks. The evidence of magnetization of the seafloor suggests that in the era of dinosaurs, there was a stretch of tens of millions of years, a "superchron", when no reversals occurred at all (usual intervals are about half a million years). Interesting, but probably unrelated to dinosaurs.

4. Contrary to what some have predicted the Earth WILL NOT stop or reverse rotation! This is an important item. Such an occurrence would violate the conservation of momentum. The rotation of the planet and core produce the magnetic field rather than the field producing the rotation.
So it is NOT like reversing the poles of a DC motor and running in the opposite direction. Again if were to happen, it would have been discovered in
the rock records from the last reversal, so don’t worry about that.


4. Pole reversals will NOT cause all Electronics to suddenly stop working that’s just silly. Most if not all electrical devices already have their own magnetic
fields associated with the magnetic devices within them. IE transformers are magnetic devices coils are magnetic devices. These fields do not rely on the
planet to produce field they produce the field dependant only upon their own chacteristics, and not upon the planets field.

5. Pole shifts may cause disruptions of Satellite communications, GPS, power grids,( see item 7) and other phenomena, this will be mainly associated with short term events, however if large power transformers in sub-stations should overheat and short out, longer power outages will occur. These transformers take a long time to produce and there are NO SPARES on hand at any given time. (They are built to order when ordered only, with a 6 to 8 months lead time to produce just one.)


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6. In the event of a pole shift all compasses will not point to the North as they did previously. This will cause havoc within the airline industry since
they haven’t installed GPS yet on airlines and still rely on compass readings to navigate. (Not that GPS would necessarily work either under such conditions)

7. The Power grids of electricity generating companies may be affected or may not be affected, we don’t know for sure! We do know that Solar Storms
(CME’s) can affect the power grids. Remember the last big power outage in the north east & NYC, much of that was caused by solar flares which
induced extremely high currents in power transmission lines, causing the lines and transformers to overload and fail. “The troublemaker for power grids
is the "GIC" – short for geomagnetically induced current. When a coronal mass ejection (a billion-ton solar storm cloud) hits Earth's magnetic field, the
impact causes the field to shake and quiver. These magnetic vibrations induce currents almost everywhere, from Earth's upper atmosphere to the
ground beneath our feet. Powerful GICs can overload circuits, trip breakers, and in extreme cases melt the windings of heavy-duty transformers.”
This actually happened in Quebec on March 13, 1989, power was out for nine hours. So if a CME is associated with the pole reversal or
causes it we may also have major power outages.

8. NASA was so concerned that they have created something they call a “Solar Shield Program” to inform power generating companies of upcoming
Solar events so said companies can shut off the power until the event is over.
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/sc ... larshield/

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A Solar Flare complements of NASA

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The Worry

If a pole shift occurs and several other factors also occur then we are really in for a difficult time. Here’s my worry.(The time line)

1. Pole shift occurs
2. Commutations & power grids do go out for an extended period of time.
3. Major earthquakes occur in many areas of the world.
4. Satellite surveillance is interrupted; the government is blinded by the event.
5. Government experiments in genetic mutations and virus mutations may be released from secured locations due to above noted conditions.
6. Due to commutations blackout the government isn’t aware of said release until it is far too late. Millions die!
7. Fail safe nuclear device installed to prevent general populace from being exposed to said virus detonates, more millions die!
8. Nuclear denotation of “fail safe devices” causes third world war since the government doesn’t know who detonated the device. They are blind
9. Iran & North Korea become slag heaps glowing in the dark for the next 10,000 years. More millions die!
10. All hell then breaks loose. Billions die!

That’s my worry, do I worry too much ?????????????????????????????????????????????


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Great catch, Fulcanelli!!

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Hi Danstew. Thanks for your well thought out analysis of the situation.
Maybe L2L can help with your photo posting issue.


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There has certainly been a lot of pole shift talk on various boards lately. I wish people that make statements involving magnetic pole shift would use the word magnetic.

Magnetic pole shifts have been verified by main stream science. I'm not a science guy, but it's hard for me to see how this event could result in a major extinction of humans and other animals.

I read various people's opinions that a physical pole shift is impossible, but I wonder if this is scientifically provable. Certain bits of information, such as seashells found at the top of very tall mountains and grass found in quick-frozen mammoths, makes me question the idea that a physical pole shift has never happened. So-called mythological accounts might be a further indication that physical pole shifts might have happened.

Magnetic pole shifts have the evidence of the magnetic orientation of rock layers, while physical pole shift has only physical evidence that can be interpreted in various ways.

Physical pole shift hasn't been proven, but I question whether it has been proved that it definitely hasn't ever happened.


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fr33kSh0w2012 wrote:
Bluebonnet wrote:
fr33kSh0w2012 wrote:
f**king spammers ...


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sounds to me like you have a virus. You need to run your anti-virus software and make sure you are clean.


...


I just got hit by a fake certificate and spam virus. two Anti virus programs did not catch it.
I took me two days to remove it completely.

Anti virus is only as good as the signature. This virus was also triggered with a Java install (hence the fake certificate).

if you have a restore I would suggest using it and remove java and examine all certificates (off line)
Then go online and update OS, and antivirus and java (in that order)

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Never open unsolocited mail.

Use an Internet Security system. Anti-virus is not sufficient. ;)

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@Danstew: - have you looked at or considered what happens when the fundemental basis for a stable electron changes in the 3D structure, ie: the quantum effects? Do you know anything about the super-electron as related to in the ancient texts? Your concerns are noted, yet your worry will feed itself if you do not have a Higher perspective understanding of Humanity's origns. That we are in for a bumpy ride is for certain, but that we have a future after this body is also certain imo.

We await the arrival of the Electro Magnetic Null Zone...

I believe that it will then be a time when we go back to no electricity, temporarily? Only time will tell.

The question I have, is what happens to memory during the EMNZ effect?


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Danstew wrote:
Sorry the pics didn't load

Rick Hunter wrote:
Hi Danstew. Thanks for your well thought out analysis of the situation.
Maybe L2L can help with your photo posting issue.



Great first post Danstew :clap :clap

If you email me your photos or send me the links I will edit your post for you!

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mountaintiger7 wrote:
fr33kSh0w2012 wrote:
Bluebonnet wrote:
fr33kSh0w2012 wrote:
f**king spammers ...


...
sounds to me like you have a virus. You need to run your anti-virus software and make sure you are clean.


...


I just got hit by a fake certificate and spam virus. two Anti virus programs did not catch it.
I took me two days to remove it completely.

Anti virus is only as good as the signature. This virus was also triggered with a Java install (hence the fake certificate).

if you have a restore I would suggest using it and remove java and examine all certificates (off line)
Then go online and update OS, and antivirus and java (in that order)

MT7


Yep - you got it Mountain! Sometimes the anti-virus software is outdated or the virus is just too new.

Java is NOTORIOUS for viral attacks. I have to use it at work but not at home so much.

Thanks for the update and the helpful tips! :heart

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@Danstew: - have you looked at or considered what happens when the fundemental basis for a stable electron changes in the 3D structure, ie: the quantum effects? Do you know anything about the super-electron as related to in the ancient texts? Your concerns are noted, yet your worry will feed itself if you do not have a Higher perspective understanding of Humanity's origns. That we are in for a bumpy ride is for certain, but that we have a future after this body is also certain imo.

We await the arrival of the Electro Magnetic Null Zone...
I believe that it will then be a time when we go back to no electricity, temporarily? Only time will tell.
The question I have, is what happens to memory during the EMNZ effect?


Your point is valid, NO I don't know about the Quantum effects, I am only
pointing out what has already been released on the NET, and a possible senario, thats all. The point here is that the pole shift will not be our doom it may be our own weapons. I stated that there will NOT be major shifts in the Contenents (sp ?) Can I convince anyone of what will occur ? As you say only time will tell. I have a hope that we will surrive this coming event and go on to create a GREAT civilization in the stars (STAR TREK ? ) but do I have anything to base that on - NO.

May the grace of the Universe guide you on your path.

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I really enjoyed reading your first post Danstew. You are in the right place... Welcome aboard!


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There has certainly been a lot of pole shift talk on various boards lately. I wish people that make statements involving magnetic pole shift would use the word magnetic.

Magnetic pole shifts have been verified by main stream science. I'm not a science guy, but it's hard for me to see how this event could result in a major extinction of humans and other animals.

I read various people's opinions that a physical pole shift is impossible, but I wonder if this is scientifically provable. Certain bits of information, such as seashells found at the top of very tall mountains and grass found in quick-frozen mammoths, makes me question the idea that a physical pole shift has never happened. So-called mythological accounts might be a further indication that physical pole shifts might have happened.

Magnetic pole shifts have the evidence of the magnetic orientation of rock layers, while physical pole shift has only physical evidence that can be interpreted in various ways.

Physical pole shift hasn't been proven, but I question whether it has been proved that it definitely hasn't ever happened.


Your point is well taken and VALID ! I was not referring to a physical shift of the geographic pole. As I stated in my post the contenents will most likely stay near where they are now. Will there be earthquakes ? almost for sure !
Will there be mass Kaos ? YEP !

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mrgalleria | November 16, 2010 |

I have noticed an unusual glow from the moon recently. Is some nearby object casting infrared, ultraviolet, or other unseen light on the moon? Could the moon's surface be reacting to this light much the same as a black-light reacts with some surfaces?
Is the moon and/or earth shifting it's angle, or changing tilt of it's axis?
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I have noticed an unusual glow from the moon recently. Is some nearby object casting infrared, ultraviolet, or other unseen light on the moon? Could the moon's surface be reacting to this light much the same as a black-light reacts with some surfaces?
Is the moon and/or earth shifting it's angle, or changing tilt of it's axis?


Okay, Tex, this is totally bizarro because last night allllll the way home my carpool ladies and I looked at a weird moon and talked about it.

Yes, the moon is full but it was orange and huge! In the Houston area we normally see that type of moon in October - not January. We call it a "Harvest Moon" or (old time Texans) a "Commanche Moon."

It did, indeed, look like a holographic moon and it was totally unlike any moon I've ever seen locally in January. :dunno

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I was able to find all but one Photo & edit your original post for you, I sure hope I put them in the correct spot.

Again great first post :clap :clap :clap

It's such a great post that I am going to copy it to our our PX Section for future reference!

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Hi, Danstew, and welcome aboard!

I read your well-considered first post with interest. If I may, I’d like to comment on a few of your ideas and maybe suggest some further sources of study.

Danstew wrote:
1. Planetary pole reversals have happened in the past. The last one occurred 780 thousand years ago, the second to last was 300 thousand years before that, of the last four or five the average period is 400 thousand years.


Geopolar reversals (to distinguish physical pole reversals from the more common magnetic reversals) do indeed happen, but to extrapolate their frequency by averaging only two samples, one at 780 and another at 300 thousand years, to conclude that the average period is 400 thousand years is questionable methodology at best and wouldn’t stand up to even the most basic statistical or logical analysis. You’ve no way of knowing – at minimum – whether these two indicators are the only examples of geopolar shift. There are undoubtedly other data points that need to be considered here. Good try, though.

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2. The planet went for several million years without pole reversals at certain times in the planets history (see item 3 below)


Do you mean magnetic or geo? Again, based on what evidence? A link to the data here would be helpful to clarify your point.

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3. There will NOT be earth movements as seen in the movie 2012 (at least I don’t think so). The reason I say this is the rock record of previous polar shifts do not have similar major shifts in the continents. In other words if the planet self destructs every time a pole shift occurs there would be evidence of that, which we would see in the rocks.


For evidence of prior earth movements, you may be looking in the wrong place. The earth’s crust is relatively thin, yes, but the upper crust nevertheless ranges from 5-35 kilometres (3-22 miles) in thickness above the upper mantle of some 25 kilometres (15 miles) thickness above the much, much thicker mantle proper. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structure_of_the_Earth

And, if you look at the crustal displacement theories of Charles Hapgood – which Einstein himself endorsed - evidence of geopolar shift may perhaps be hidden deep below the sliding upper crust we can see or drill. (Essentially, Hapgood pointed out that crustal slippage, once the crust was stressed loose from the inner mantle, could occur like the thin skin of an orange or tangerine slipping easily over the pulpy center of the fruit. He conceded that polar ice melt would not be enough to generate the momentum necessary to cause this, but Planet X theories were before his time. His “The Earth’s Shifting Crust” was published in 1958, well ahead of even plate tectonic theories.)

Evidence of huge crustal “rumpling” and sliding is actually easily visible in many places around the globe, though, in the form of huge, nearly vertical sections of sedimentary rock layers that have clearly been heaved up long after their initial horizontal formation.

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That’s what crustal sliding and plates crashing into each other would look like.

As to other evidence of civilizations lost as their continents sink below the waves, I must remind us that at the present time, something like 80%+ of the world’s population lives within 200 miles(?) of a continental coastline. This photo of lights on the Earth at night graphically illustrates the coastal population concentration.

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This pattern of human settlement has probably been true – for obvious practical reasons – throughout history. And those populated areas are precisely the ones that drown in a pole shift. Best book on lost coastal civilizations is Graham Hancock’s “Underworld”. It’s not necessary to lose an entire continent, a la Atlantis or Lemuria (Mu), to lose most of your population and civilizations. http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-5846653816958373120&ei=APg0S5mgK4nCrAKlufnfBA&q=graham+hancock&hl=en&view=3# Since Hancock’s book was published in 2002, a number of other underwater cities have been discovered: Yonaguni, off the coast of Japan, and others off the coast of India etc.

Danstew wrote:
The evidence of magnetization of the seafloor suggests that in the era of dinosaurs, there was a stretch of tens of millions of years, a "superchron", when no reversals occurred at all (usual intervals are about half a million years). Interesting, but probably unrelated to dinosaurs.


The issues of magnetization on the sea floor are intriguing, for sure. I don’t know whether you’re read Immanuel Velikovsky’s “World’s In Collision” http://www.velikovsky.info/Worlds_in_Collision – one of the first catastrophist theories – but he posited that our Earth has had a series of “close encounters” with other celestial bodies. One of these near-collisions (it’s been some years since I read his books, so I don’t recall exactly which) tore a deep gash in the earth that exposed the magnetic core under what is now the highly magnetized Mid-Atlantic Ridge.

http://www.grantchronicles.com/astro71b.htm

Grant’s Chronicles wrote:
In the .... future, one of many major problems arises when the magnetically attractive Mid Atlantic Rift and the [inbound] planetary magnetic field lock thus grabbing the Earth crust temporarily in an ever increasing time duration maintaining a static position.

As the interlocking plate connective layers crumble due to repetitive stress, the continents will be released to move about from tectonic influences of force. The core will then drag the side not held and the Atlantic rips open on the opposing side the Pacific now under compression subducts under the Americas. Its is only that the surface area around the rift diffuses as magma pours out and does not freeze in a uniform alignment as the Earth position does not hold long enough for the seafloor to solidify.

As magnetic attraction increases due to the distance closing, it is the larger growing magnetic target area that reduces the affects as not to be as great as the initial rip until the final shift and passage. ...


In other words, under this scenario, the dominant magnetic field of Planet X uses its phase-lock of the Mid-Atlantic ridge to “turn the key”, so to speak, twisting the Earth and causing a geopolar shift as PX swoops close by without actually contacting the Earth itself. Therefore, you wouldn’t necessarily see a shift in the ocean’s magnetosphere, since it wasn’t powerful enough to resist PX....

Danstew wrote:
4. Contrary to what some have predicted the Earth WILL NOT stop or reverse rotation! This is an important item. Such an occurrence would violate the conservation of momentum. The rotation of the planet and core produce the magnetic field rather than the field producing the rotation.
So it is NOT like reversing the poles of a DC motor and running in the opposite direction. Again if were to happen, it would have been discovered in
the rock records from the last reversal, so don’t worry about that.


True, there’s no evidence that the Earth’s rotation has ever reversed direction – but such is unnecessary for a geopolar shift at any rate. Moot point. As for the stoppage of rotation, that’s exactly what would happen as Planet X holds the Mid-Atlantic Ridge in lockstep. And conservation of momentum be damned at that point, I’m afraid. The core would, indeed, continue to roll underneath as the crust was held. Oooops. Crust tears loose. Pole shift. Nancy Lieder has described the mechanics extensively. But what – it is fair to ask – would constitute geological evidence of rotation stoppage for several days? A geological record probably wouldn’t actually happen – or, at the minimum, there’s no agreement on what to look for. On the other hand, there is ample historical and cultural evidence of “the sun stopping in its tracks (see the Bible)…the moon rising elsewhere (Native American, Mayan and other traditions) … etc etc. that suggest rotation stoppage in history. It is recorded in the folklore of many cultures, along with the universal tale of what the Bible calls “Noah and His Ark”. Many civilizations remember salvation by boat.

I do hope this is not too discomfiting. At any rate, there’s much material to research further and I wish you all the best in your endeavors.

Cheers,

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I started watching V. :elephant
Is V another :PSYOP project by 33? :brockoli
Or is it a physiological test to see how Humans react? :banana
will Humans react with worship and obsession? :headbang
Will Humans react with fear? :crazy
I believe it is a test to see how are emotions travel though society. :wavey
The last time the test was run in 1983 it did not turn out so well. :puter
Will 2010 be different, only if we "Don't Panic" :candle

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What you say is very thought proviking but again only time will tell, and I will most likely will not be here to see it.

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Many poeple have been saying things about STS or STO people, well I have an observation.

It's not service to self, it's not service to others, IT IS SERVICE TO SPECIES AND GOD THAT COUNTS IN THE FINAL ANALYSIS!


Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:47 pm
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Post Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 5.8 2010
selene,

Thank you for your thoughts and kind words. The comming planetary pole reversal I believe will be a magnetic reversal, but I don't really know, so only time will tell because those who do know, can't/won't tell me which it will be or maybe both, don't know.

If we use the past for clues, then I think it will be a magnetic reversal.

As with most things, we don't know everything, so we will have to wait and see, prepare for the worst, hope for the best, and it will fall somewhere in the middle.

The post was not my best work but it was my first post on any thread. I used to write technicial validation reports and got rather good at it over time and still take pride in what I do.

I was fired from a Major corporation because I refused to falsify a test report on the 94 Oldsmobile wiper switch. (It had a 50% failure rate after 1/2 life)
It runined my carrier (sp) but I can sleep at night.

Again thanks for the kind words

It's service to Species & God that counts, all else is B.S.


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Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:03 pm
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Post Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 5.8 2010
I know this is off topic but it's ticking me off.

Is there a spell checker on this thing ??? :oops


Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:12 pm
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Danstew,

Where are you planning to be pray tell? -- Pardon me but it seems that death is the only way out. Are you dying?

Also - please forgive me if I don't say too much to new posters. I certainly read every word here, or I try to!! After "Micklus" (sp) and his many public posts to DD wherein he ignored all other posts to him (at least he ignored ALL of my posts directed specifically to him) -- I am a bit reluctant to venture down that path again. That is my reason for not saying much when I see new names. I am not trying to be rude.

Lynnwood


DANSTEW - As you are typing in the text entry area, any misspelled words will be underlined in red... Click "EDIT" on one of your posts, and purposely misspell a word, you'll see... Then, all you have to do is look for words underlined in read as you are typing. RIGHT CLICK those and you will see options - the machine trying to guess what word you mean. Pick one and click.

~~Lynn


Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:14 pm
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The following is a excerpt from the whislle blower doc.

"He claims that the event that is coming is a natural occurrence and it concerns something affecting the sun, NOT slamming into the Earth. It is already affecting the sun as evidenced by the solar filaments. He states:
The Sun is already reacting to 'forces' we can't see

So, something is coming, and everybody assumes NASA has all the answers and that there are things they know for sure which aren't being disclosed. The problem is, most of what is being discussed is NOT set in stone and NASA, nor ESA or the others know for certain either what will happen - in some instances - and even less when.

Things moving through space can hit each other. When they do, it's hard to know what will happen because those spin offs can hit other 'things' we may not see yet - or - may think we see but aren't sure of the mass or composition
This clue leads us to suspect an incoming celestial „body‟ of some sort. But, I remembered I did some research on our heliosphere and when the OP said, “we may not see yet - or - may think we see but aren't sure of the mass or composition,” well, that told me it wasn‟t necessarily an asteroid or planet, but possibly the „Fluff‟ cloud that was held together by magnetics. The first discovery of this anomaly was discovered by NASA around October 15, 2009.

The anomaly consisted of a RIBBON OF MAGNETICS that scientists said, "We had no idea this ribbon existed--or what has created it. Our previous ideas about the outer heliosphere are going to have to be revised."

Two and a half months later, NASA made another discovery that SEEMS to be linked with this magnetic ribbon. They called it “Local Fluff”. It is described to have come into being like this:
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009 ... oyager.htm

Astronomers call the cloud we're running into now the Local Interstellar Cloud or "Local Fluff" for short. It's about 30 light years wide and contains a wispy mixture of hydrogen and helium atoms at a temperature of 6000 C. The existential mystery of the Fluff has to do with its surroundings. About 10 million years ago, a cluster of supernovas exploded nearby, creating a giant bubble of million-degree gas. The Fluff is completely surrounded by this high-pressure supernova exhaust and should be crushed or dispersed by it.
The reason the Local Fluff doesn‟t disperse out into space is that it is highly magnetized. (vaccum is a very good temp insutlator?)

The fact that the Fluff is strongly magnetized means that other clouds in the galactic neighborhood could be, too. Eventually, the solar system will run into some of them, and their strong magnetic fields could compress the heliosphere even more than it is compressed now. Additional compression could allow more cosmic rays to reach the inner solar system, possibly affecting terrestrial climate and the ability of astronauts to travel safely through space. On the other hand, astronauts wouldn't have to travel so far because interstellar space would be closer than ever.
This magnetized fluff is not supposed to be able to enter our heliosphere, which is good news:

The Fluff is held at bay just beyond the edge of the solar system by the sun's magnetic field, which is inflated by solar wind into a magnetic bubble more than 10 billion km wide. Called the "heliosphere," this bubble acts as a shield that helps protect the inner solar system from galactic cosmic rays and interstellar clouds. The two Voyagers are located in the outermost layer of the heliosphere, or "heliosheath," where the solar wind is slowed by the pressure of interstellar gas.

Like I said, NASA isn't sure of everything it believes may be happening. Something is happening and many who have the ability to send birds up to look are also trying to figure out just what "is" real.

We have to give a reason which things show up on certain data that gets out on the net.
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This answer was right in line with what he had initially proposed, because magnetics and strange particles are difficult to detect and was sure NASA was having a difficult time explaining the data that pertained to this „mystery‟.

Then, OP gives us a HUGE clue. He says: I am NOT trying to survive a moon crash - that one was funny. Not even an asteroid, because to many variables. I am learning how to adjust to a lack of electrons in house wiring for some time.

Is NASA concerned about a near certain event? Or are they more worried because some of these 'secrets' look like they are going to be exposed and their is nothing they can do about it?
He responds: Some of both, but not why you might think. Everyone at NASA has a family somewhere. They're not a bunch of govt bought robots - they have feelings. They fear what can happen. But they have to pay their bills like all of us. They have to keep money coming into the budget. Many WANT to keep money coming hoping that they can figure out what is fact - and THEN they would LIKE to open up about it..... that's what I hear in the halls - NOT in official conferences. But - it is a very vicious circle folks.
This, I feel, is more plausible an answer than ANY shill would give!

Bingo! Now, this answer is REALLY backing up what I proposed about Fluff and the Magnetic Ribbon! Something that wouldn‟t directly affect Earth, but NASA was concerned about affects to the Sun. Why? Because, according to OP, something is going to cause a massive EMP that could possibly affect the entire globe! Something is going to cause a disturbance on the Sun that will result in solar storms damaging enough to affect the entire Earth! This at a time when Solar Cycle 24 is heading towards MAX!
Things are beginning to click together!


When OP comes back, an AC posts: I know what the OP is talking about, it has nothing to do with an "event" from the sun as we know it, like a flare or pulse or anything like that. It has to do with a "timeline" In short, part of what I know is this, certain features that our sun has displayed is at question. During the monitoring of our sun features in a specific way has manifested in observable events that have taken place many years ago and events that have yet to be. The process of observing our sun in this specialized way can also be used to monitor other celestial events that have already occurred and those that have yet to occur. Our sun is fine, however it is the culmination of the results from these observations that are at question. The question is not one of what but of when.

OP responds: And i wouldn't put that much time into 'when.

Now, when he comes back, he lets the doom out of the bag: Again, this is out there. Days. There is a 'domino' effect because of how our electrical grid is designed. It has safeguards which actually take it down - in segments - automatically in order to keep from frying things... but the components of what those automatic systems are supposed to protect are not protected from EMP and/or huge static loads to ground. I'm not an EE so not sure what that means. So when the system trys to protect itself - it can cascade - quickly. But if certain parts of the system get damaged - again this is out there - then it can take years to replace them. Problem is, the companies who make this stuff don't have enough raw materials on hand - right now - to make them all. Some of them don't even have back up power sources.... they are 'commerical' suppliers ! Think about it. Really think about it.


AGAIN THESE ARE NOT MY WORDS, THEY ARE THE GUY FROM NASA !

SORRY TO RUIN EVERYONE DAY :awe

REMEMBER SERVICE TO SPECIES IS ALL THERE REALLY IS BESIDES GOD !


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