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I would like to make this statement to all members and guests alike.

If the prediction does NOT come true as written any and ALL Personal Attacks against Don will be dealt with swiftly and personally by me.

I will NOT tolerate ANY attacks on Don & or his Character PERIOD.

I may NOT see eye to eye with Don on allot of issues but I do respect him and his views, he has always been courteous to us, even the nay sayers so please respect that!

Don has been NOTHING but a Gentleman throughout this entire journey and I expect the same treatment of him NO MATTER the outcome.

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Well said, L. This is only what each deserves under the Golden Rule, but I fear it is not always followed, so "forewarned is forearmed". Nuff said.

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I'm maintaining my wait and see approach, but I have done some preparation, storing food and water for me, the dog and cat and a small amount of spare fuel, the scooters don't use much anyway. I also have some camping supplies that I've never used for camping, but I think my place will be about as safe as any, the highest point in my town. I'm on twitter and I've just been encouraging people to be survivalists, store what you eat, eat what you store etc.
I have family and friends in Europe I am worried about though. They're already freezing which is troubling enough. I couldn't say anything to my Belgian friend, I know she wouldn't stand a chance in a tsunami but I don't want to scare her.
I've mentioned the warnings to others but I couldn't bring myself to say the source. To me, that makes DonDep look courageous, standing up for what he believes in. I don't think anyone on this forum would insult DonDep for taking the position he has, maybe a certain ex-forum member would have.


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L2L,

Wow. As much as I greatly admire your fierce loyalty here, dear friend L2L (and I thoroughly support your defense of DonDep): Woah. Woah.

We all need to get a grip. I hope that DonDep’s reputation is not on the line here. That would be a huge mistake by anyone.

The Zetas’ estimate of ‘end of calendar year action’ shouldn’t be taken by anyone as the Final Determinative . It’s all probabilities. No one – even the Zetas – knows for sure about WHEN anything will happen. But they can still happen.

We’ll see. That’s all.

Our good readers should not assume that DonDep’s interest needs to be thrown out with anyone else’s mistaken assumptions, although – again – your growl is admirable and well-timed.

But we all need to get a grip.

Probabilities have a life of their own.

The four-out-of-five odds is always the best bet. But. The one-in-a-hundred-million stills hits, too. We don’t know.

I view the Zetas’ warning as an honest one: like a good weather report. But – things change in the swirl of time. Who knows?

It doesn’t diminish the necessity for the warning, nor the other very good data that is adding up to warn us. If nothing implodes before December 31 that’s not a “Home Free” card. We still need to watch the horizon – all the other data shows that the storm is still brewing.

Meanwhile, your defense of Don is very cool. :wavey

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Selene I respect your input but with all due respect your a newbie here and although I respect your good intentions your gonna have to respect that I have my reasons for this warning!!

We have seen and been through a TON with Don over the years and it is HE that will unfortunatly bare the brunt of all this should the prediction not come true.

My warning is NOT so much to our members here but to those who I know are sitting and waiting to jump on Don so it is well desreved and IMHO very well timed.

I'm watching, as Ruts says NUFF SAID ;)

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I announced on this thread that I have second thoughts about the prediction. Intuitively, I feel it is not going to happen by the end of the year, or even soon. Mainly, it feels too "October 14th-ish" to me. It's a DATE -- they said they would not give dates, and I assume that means for anything, not just the big event.

The last time they gave a "date" it was a lie. I realize the dates are for two different things, but HEY, IT'S A DATE.

THAT SAID, just because something does not happen by December 31, 2010, does NOT MEAN IT WILL NOT HAPPEN, hence my comment about not throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

It's another white lie folks, designed to get people to prepare.

In 18 days we will know for sure.

I would never blame Don, or anyone, for my beliefs and choices, so there will not be a peep outta me.

The storm is indeed brewing.


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re: the zetan predicted events, this was copied from another list...

"The events of this month are a possibility,not a probability.If nothing occurs this month it means the course of events that were supposed to be allowed to occur has been changed in some way."

The lady who said this also claims that CERN has been 'dealt with', although since TPTB will keep trying there is still a possibility of needing to heed the warnings made by Nostradamus and get out now, whilst its still easy.

She seems to be in contact with Sirians and others massing around the Kuiper Belt.

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Of more immediate concern to us here in Britain is that (according to an article in today's Telegraph newspaper) we are experiencing what is shaping up to be the coldest December since 1772, when (my comment) we were still in the 'little ice age'.

With 50mph winds from the arctic expected later this week it will feel like 5 deg F / -15 deg C. Many areas will see snow too.

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I won't care if nothing happens (actually I'll rejoice with a BIG DEEP SIGH if nothing happens)


Although I wish it would happen to the POLITICIANS ONLY that would serve them F :censor right! I MEEN IT THE POLITICIANS SHOULD SUFFER the way they have MADE US suffer! :flame

and if an ET lands their spaceship in my backyard it will be :popcorn :mrgreen: that is if they are not hostile!

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It is a very interesting paradigm developing amongst our group of opinions here at GT. I am with the nay sayers of the 7 of 10 predictions for this month. I also do not believe it will be from just one source like PX, but rather from a possible series of events, principally the SUN! We will see more and more events and scientific proofs as the quoted story I posted in the Active Mind Sectionof the board (please read with discernment, as I quote various "proofs" imo from a famous text!) as well as NASA's "revelation" of today. Your comments will be welcome as I sincerely encourage them and possibly some debate as to what you think and may believe as an individual!!!

But - we Do still have 16 days to go and it remains to be seen if we get one of the "starter events" kicking in.

It is a time for Action!

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I had a deja vu and a dream on the same day which gave me the feeling of a huge "Bump", the first of many in Feb 2011.

PhaTz..

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Phatman wrote:
I had a deja vu and a dream on the same day which gave me the feeling of a huge "Bump", the first of many in Feb 2011.

PhaTz..


I hate Deja vu Feb 2011 'eh yeah the end of it say around the 17 to the 26th

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Hey Phatz..

Sorry if you are not getting my e-mails I'm sending you some-one is TAMPERING with my E-mails if there was anything OFFENSIVE in those E-mails can you let me know as my yahoo account Keeps getting HACKED!!

I am not even getting my http://www.aliensthetruth.com monthly newsletter anymore?!?

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My respect for Don will not change, no matter what the next two weeks brings our way.


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We will see more and more events and scientific proofs as the quoted story I posted in the Active Mind Sectionof the board (please read with discernment, as I quote various "proofs" imo from a famous text!) as well as NASA's "revelation" of today. Your comments will be welcome as I sincerely encourage them and possibly some debate as to what you think and may believe as an individual!!!


In case anyone is interested here is the thread that Sky is referring too

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My respect for Don will not change, no matter what the next two weeks brings our way.


I realize I rarely post here ( or anywhere ) anymore ......

but I wanted to second that sentiment.


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Interesting: David Wilcock has just posted the link to a show he did a few days ago with Tom Murasso’s Myth Or Logic radio in which he elaborates a bit on his “China’s October Surprise” info.

http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-59174/TS-414807.mp3
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http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=59174&cmd=tc



It’s two hours long but well worth a listen, IMO. At about the one hour point, Wilcock fleshes out the list of recent computer systems shutdowns events that he attributes to Chinese/ET collaboration as part of the ‘squeeze’ he says they are putting on the (what to call this?) ‘Dark Side’ ‘Illuminati’ ‘PTB’.

It’s a most interesting list:

David Wilcock wrote:
September

9/30: 6 Million Computers and 1000 Enterprises Hit by Virus in China (Opposing Factions -- Insider War)
http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2010/09/30/stuxnet-virus-spreads-china-xinhua/

9/30: Start-up of Iran’s Bushehr Nuclear Plant Delayed By Virus
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11445126

(11/26): Stuxnet Virus Almost Impossibly Sophisticated (Extraterrestrial-Designed)
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/11/26/secret-agent-crippled-irans-nuclear-ambitions/


October

10/13: OPENING OF PACKAGES BY WORLD LEADERS -- REJECTION OF DEMANDS

10/21: Exxon Mobil Oil Refinery Near Chicago Has Equipment Failure
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-22/exxon-mobil-has-equipment-failure-flaring-at-joliet-refinery.html

10/22: Oil Refinery in Rodeo, CA Has Equipment Failure
http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_16409951

10/22: Brand New UK Nuclear Submarine "HMS Astute" Loses Power, Runs Aground Off Scotland
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE69L2FJ20101022

10/23: 1/9th of US Missile Arsenal Taken Offline for One Hour
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20020817-503544.html

10/23: US Lost Command of 1/9th of Nuclear Arsenal -- Unprecedented, Enormous Failure
http://gizmodo.com/5674028/one+ninth-of-us-nuclear-intercontinental-missiles-down-last-saturday

10/28: French Warship to Join US Fleet -- Escalating Persian Gulf Tensions
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/148623.html

10/31: French Nuclear Aircraft Carrier Breaks Down Enroute to Persian Gulf
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/149065.html


November

11/3: Electrical Fault Causes Largest American Nuclear Power Plant to Shut Down
http://nuclearstreet.com/nuclear_power_industry_news/b/nuclear_power_news/archive/2010/11/29/south-texas-project-unit-2-returns-to-service-112901.aspx

11/4: Quantas Airlines Grounds All Airbus A380s After Engine Fire Over Indonesia
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/04/qantas-airbus-problem-ai_n_778719.html

11/5: Engine Problems Hit Second Quantas Aircraft -- This Time a Boeing 747-400
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6A435P20101105

11/7: 911 Emergency System Equipment Failure in Atlanta
http://www.ajc.com/news/cherokee/equipment-failure-caused-cherokee-731853.html?cxtype=rss_news_60046

11/8: Quantas Uncovers More Engine Problems
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/11/08/3059568.htm

11/8: “Complete Coincidence” as Two Different Nuclear Plants Shut Down Within One Hour – New York and Vermont
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/11/08/2010-11-08_complete_coincidence_two_nuclear_plants_owned_by_new_orleansbased_entergy_corp_a.html#ixzz14hcA0Qyw

11/8: Carnival Splendor Cruise Ship's Propulsion and Communication Systems Destroyed, Ship Stranded for Days
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1328692/Carnival-Splendor-passengers-speak-cruise-liner-nightmare.html

11/8: Equipment Failure Causes 15 Time Warner Channels (If Not All of Them) to Freeze for 90 Minutes
http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2010/11/equipment_failure_freezes_15_t.html

11/8: Time Warner Blackout Included NBC’s George W. Bush Interview and “The Event”
http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2010/11/09/time-warner-blames-equipment-failure-for-frozen-screens-last-night/

11/9: Massive Missile Launch Occurs Off LA Coast, Still Unexplained
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101109/ts_nm/us_usa_missile_mystery

11/9/2007: Chinese Sub Appears in US Navy Exercise -- Huge Shock and Embarassment (Same Day as 2010 Missile)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-492804/The-uninvited-guest-Chinese-sub-pops-middle-U-S-Navy-exercise-leaving-military-chiefs-red-faced.html

11/10: Mystery Contrail May Have Been An Airplane (Not)
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/11/10/blogger-solved-california-missile-mystery/

11/10: Rocketry Expert Confirms It Was a Solid Propellant Missile
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/11/10/earlyshow/main7040379.shtml

11/10: Weird Line of “Fire” Hangs in NY Skyline
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2010/11/10/did-you-see-the-fire-in-the-nyc-sky/

11/15: BP Texas Oil Refinery Fails, Releases Hydrogen Sulfide
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-11-16/bp-texas-refinery-had-equipment-failure-galveston-news-says.html

11/28: Kansas Oil Refinery Has Equipment Failure, Releases Hydrogen Sulfide and Sulfur Dioxide
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-11-28/cvr-s-coffeyville-kansas-refinery-reports-equipment-failure.html


December

12/4: Louisiana Oil Refinery Has Fiery Equipment Failure
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-12-04/motiva-has-equipment-failure-flares-at-refinery-in-louisiana.html




Now, some of these may well be “coincidence”, or unrelated. But what is highly interesting about this list of computer-related systems shutdowns or self-destruct events is that:

1. They cover a methodical range of increasingly critical and highly protected energy, communications, transportation, safety and military systems. None of the strategic elements necessary to shut down an entire country – or even the developed parts of the entire planet – have been left out. Wilcock says that these shutdowns have been continuing without public acknowledgement among the military’s secret systems as well.

2. The timeline of the incidents has apparently been carefully calibrated to rise in risk or danger to humans from relatively innocuous to clearly potentially harmful to safety – but there have been no known injuries or deaths so far. Whoever is doing this is acting with great tact and discretion. There is clearly no intent at “terrorism” as such – in terms of loss of life – but there is undoubtedly a program to demonstrate the tactical capacities of the [Chinese] group’s powers.

This level of subtlety- as well as the timing of these moves at this point in the geopolitical game - is a very, very credibly Chinese tactic. They did, after all, write SunTzu’s “The Art of War”

Sun Tzu “Art of War” wrote:

o “To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill.”

o “Thus it is that in war the victorious strategist only seeks battle after the victory has been won.”


More great quotes from “The Art of War” here: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_Art_of_War

Wilcock maintains that the Chinese were contacted in the 1940’s by Et’s who were disappointed by the indifferent and greedy reception they’d received from the Americans. (China at that point was – you may remember – little more than an almost feudal backwater, a lost state. But he says that the Et’s used their “cube” future viewer to see how modern China could eventually become.) And the Chinese have been quietly cooperating with them ever since, awaiting the proper moment to play their hand.


And perhaps – with the world’s economy in free-fall – that moment is now.


Interesting indeed. :hmm :hmm :hmm


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SEND US A "WORD OR WORDS" FOR DAN TO ADD TO THE MANUSCRIPT. The word or words could even be an anagram of your name, or keep it totally anonymous. :)

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Greetings, it appears that the northern hemisphere is cooling seriously and are changing the climate from the south, chemical clouds, which are sending up. I made this explanatory video. I'm sorry but is in Spanish, although the photos are quite explicit.



The text says

This is a sequence of satellite images taken by Spain and covering a time span of 24 hours on 6 and 7 December. Two overlapping cloud fronts: One natural from the north and one from South artificial.

In the pictures of Infrared and air currents can be seen clearly artificial front whitish.

In the photo real image, however, artificial clouds are more gray and smooth.

Note the spontaneous formation of circular clouds completely white. They are responsible for the showers of the day.

It is up to you and decided to investigate if what you saw is what I told you. Thanks for your time

Weather modification is now a reality. The apparent intent is to heat up to the northern hemisphere to slow cooling. The real intent and impact is unknown .... of time.


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Wikileaks -- a Big Dangerous US Government Con Job

By F. William Engdahl, 7 December 2010

The story on the surface makes for a script for a new Oliver Stone Hollywood thriller. A 39-year old Australian hacker holds the President of the United States and his State Department hostage to a gigantic cyber “leak,” unless the President leaves Julian Assange and his Wikileaks free to release hundreds of thousands of pages of sensitive US Government memos. A closer look at the details, so far carefully leaked by the most ultra-establishment of international media such as the New York Times, reveals a clear agenda. That agenda coincidentally serves to buttress the agenda of US geopolitics around the world from Iran to Russia to North Korea. The Wikileaks is a big and dangerous US intelligence Con Job which will likely be used to police the Internet.

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Excuse to police the Internet?

What is emerging from all the sound and Wikileaks fury in Washington is that the entire scandal is serving to advance a long-standing Obama and Bush agenda of policing the until-now free Internet. Already the US Government has shut the Wikileaks server in the United States though no identifiable US law has been broken.

The process of policing the Web was well underway before the current leaks scandal. In 2009 Democratic Senator Jay Rockefeller and Republican Olympia Snowe introduced the Cybersecurity Act of 2009 (S.773). It would give the President unlimited power to disconnect private-sector computers from the internet. The bill "would allow the president to 'declare a cyber-security emergency' relating to 'non-governmental' computer networks and do what's necessary to respond to the threat." We can expect that now this controversial piece of legislation will get top priority when a new Republican House and the Senate convene in January.

The US Department of Homeland Security, an agency created in the political hysteria following 9/11 2001 that has been compared to the Gestapo, has already begun policing the Internet. They are quietly seizing and shutting down internet websites (web domains ) without due process or a proper trial. DHS simply seizes web domains that it wants to and posts an ominous "Department of Justice" logo on the web site. See an example at . Over 75 websites were seized and shut in a recent week. Right now, their focus is websites that they claim "violate copyrights," yet the torrent-finder.com website that was seized by DHS contained no copyrighted content whatsoever. It was merely a search engine website that linked to destinations where people could access copyrighted content. Step by careful step freedom of speech can be taken away. Then what?

Source: http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net/G ... n_job.html

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This has been my biggest fear in all of this Cyber and we have made mention of it in the thread we are using to keep a historic track of this story.

viewtopic.php?f=44&t=2680

This whole thing just stinks of a false flag to impose yet even tougher privacy laws on the American Citizens.. :headbang :rant

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With all this talk of the 7 of 10 event & will it or will it NOT happen I just wanted to share a REAL LIFE senario that has just transpired within the last 30 hours less than 3 hours away from my home.

Here in Canada we are NO stranger to winter storms however it is VERY RARE to have people stranded on highways, especially for over 24 hours :awe :scared

Folks I remind you this is REAL not made up.

http://www.intelligencer.ca/ArticleDisp ... ?e=2889366

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/arti ... bn=1#photo

One thing that I can say is that I am MUCH more prepared for a senario like this than most in large part because of this forum and the discussions we have had in the Survival Sections :clap

Go to the link below and see the slide show, it will not let me know post photos sorry... Just imagine yourself stranded in your vehicle over night let alone for 24 hours in a WINTER STORM.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/windsor/story/ ... escue.html

CTV is allowing me to post photo's, so here are a few

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Here are some short videos form CTV News

http://autos.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Autos/20101 ... name=Autos

http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20 ... er-101214/

Check out the comments after this video from CP24
http://www.cp24.com/servlet/an/local/CT ... b=CP24Home

Just so that we are clear here these photos are of a 4 Lane Highway (2 East Bound Lanes & 2 West Bound Lanes) that normally travel at a speed of 110 kms (65 mph) it's the equivelant of the I 90 that rips thorugh the majority of the US :scared

Thanks GT, although I was thankfully NOT involved in this one I could VERY easily have been, however I would have been fully prepared to shelter in my truck and survive ON MY OWN for well over 24 hrs until rescue arrived :clap :clap

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Glad as h*ll I'm not an American/Canadian and are NOT stuck in that!

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Those photo's do NOT do it justice Freak because honestly in Canadian Terms those photos look like Florida.

You gotta see the ones that I can't post, go the Media Sites I listed above and watch the videos & slide shows.

Scary stuff, I am glad no one has lost their lives yet.

I'm hearing that there are still countless stranded which really ticks me off when the media says that everyone is safe :crazy :roll :headbang

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I know I followed the links! I was Like HOLY F :censor MONKEYS!!!!

you are practically avalanche city :headbang :huh :shakehead

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