Perhaps. But the agressor would be the one who hates.

Uncle John here: Aquaman417, don't you see yourself as the aggressor here? For now, I do.

One of the most beautiful things in the whole universe is when one of us changes one's attitude to be more positive.

No big surprise here! I was just informed by Patricia Garcia of NASA/JPL(She is the one who put the Mars site together and made it work) that the site is no longet maintained. She asked me to use the new one at.----

http://www.mapaplanet.org/

I sort of wonder why now? On the new site you can not search Mars. You can only see the pictures that they post.

I am also surprised by the fact that 72 people had a look at my Mars up close pic. in the Active mind section and not one out of 72 had anything to say about the picks. The implications that the pictures pose are mind boggeling. They say that we are not alone! They also show that there is liquid rinning water on Mars.
But it looks like no one realy cares! No mater how much new data is out there most people just eat the books.

(417) I fail to see any logic in that last statement. Nor do I see any evidence by you to make your point. You're simply contradicting me.

Uncle John here: 417, I await those who control this forum. Fortunately, it is not me.

That didn't sound very loving.

It is a simple statement of fact.
From what I read, UJ is waiting and glad not to judge the situation.

** chill out dude **
** HUMANS SHOULD BE ON THE SAME TEAM **
MT7

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Aquaman, there are more people lurking here than posting (I'm one of them). Your nifty little comments are funny and arising out of frustration. To compare, Uncle john will arrive every now and then to tell everyone to love each other (peace love and mung beans style), but then write quite embittered comments re.sneds. It's personal for him - and readers can see the hurt in it. You don't need to reply to dex. You don't need to prove your case. Just know that the right people (ie.you) know what's going on and continue on with the real issues you want to examine. Best wishes - ebb

It seems clear to me on reading that Rense smear that its author could possibly be none other than Marcia MacDowell herself. Here’s why:

The style and phraseology uses expressions and metrics typical of Eagles’ postings:





Etc.

The entire Rense text is practically a guidebook to Disinfo management, clearly written by someone well-versed in its uses – as MacDowell is; she studied it as part of her Maj training. It’s an old, tired tactic to accuse the “other” of exactly what you are doing yourself. And the EDO site is clearly driven by a heavy agenda of its own, above and beyond anything ostensible.

This one is classic:


Like the daily stream of histrionics posted on EDO, hmmm? And then obsess about your ‘daily hits’ – which evidently have to be reported to someone higher up.



Like they’ve attacked Greer, Moulton Howe, Boylan, Salla and others…In fact, EDO has consistently dissed everyone else in Ufology, without exception.

[N.B. From the Archives: Here’s Marcia herself, writing as BJ Wolf in 2003: “Doesn’t anybody out there realize these people don’t bother lining up against someone unless that person is the real thing. Unless he or she has something important to say that might cause the power-brokers to squirm. That’s when they start doing everything in their considerable power to drown them out. I watched it happen - watched them start pulling out all the stops, as they kept raising the bar higher and higher - using that age old "grudge" tactic that works every time…. ]
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MK: Except that nobody really gives a crap about D&M...I take that back. There were a few hot discussions on some other mailing lists that seemed to come down on the D&M side, but those lists have a lot of disinfo types on them.
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MK: Well, when Brad and Angelina aren't available...
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WhooHoo. Drama? The entire EDO site amounts to one huge daily soap opera of inappropriate personal revelations, hissy fits and ta-dahs! that vanish again as soon as they’ve done their damage.
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MK: It continues to surprise me that there has been no video/audio production of today's bowel movements by the daring duo...lord knows that they have talked about everything else. Have any of you considered the idea that D&M may actually be screenwriters for Mexican soap operas? Those productions also involve a lot of bad acting, hyperventilation and fighting for the spotlight.
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And who would be more sensitive to funding issues than ones who proudly proclaims their own ‘vow of poverty’ while miraculously having access to food, shelter, helicopters(!), travel (en retinue), bigtime web security, etc. Someone is paying their bills, and it ain’t public donations (unless you consider our tax dollars here…).
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MK: I concur. It is easy to swear such a vow when there is not any real chance of being impoverished. There are lots of people in third world prisons that would love to be shackled in a nice air conditioned building with all the amenities including email to bitch about the jailor's beatings.
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EDO smears, furthermore, always begin with a “legally safe fact” (the 1964 Camelot operation, an old police record, a document, etc), and then proceed to distort this “fact” into whatever personal slur they want the reader to believe. It’s a very basic tactic of ‘It’s not that we want you to understand; we are hoping you will read this and misunderstand…’

EDO smears then proceed to fling and flail widely, hoping that if they fling enough BS, some of it will stick to their target. Ditto. They never dispute the facts - they try to make the target look disgusting.

The writer’s accusations amount to an almost perfect description of EDO itself – as it would, since they are so heavily invested in mirroring or protecting their own position/mission by focusing the slam on others.

I’m sure these walk-like-a-ducks have more ammo packed away somewhere with Camelot’s name on it. That’s inevitable. But all these smears mean is that You Are Doing Something Right.

Kudos to Bill Ryan for his fine and dignified defense. You go, guys.

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And thanks, y'all, for your kind compliments...(blush!)

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MK: Well deserved!
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Cheers,
Selene

My comments in color


How about reading this
http://www.yeastgenome.org/cgi-bin/locus.fpl?locus=Rat1

So they are developing a cocktail to change their RNA to allow them spin up the natural spiritual process of ascension, to climb up the evolutionary ladder (ratlines).

Being 'd' is microbiologist, bio warfare freak
Bet their nifty chemistry is only for MJ/illumatoy/PTB/STS/Nazis

Aqua

When I was posting a reply and said, since you had already complained I contradict you....I'm going to have to contradict you again...I was letting you know I know you would read it that way, a bit of my joking, apparently a missed one.

There's no way I can get around that when I don't agree with your way of thinking.
So, the advisement our not addressing one another is a good one.

Dex

Don, let me see if I can put this Mars thing in prospective. I have considered this a think tank. I have researched Mars for 10 years and just sat on the pics and data, due to the disclouser problem. But with PX talk and talk of disclouser I figured now was the time to show them. I was looking for feed back to guage if people would accept life on Mars, or reject it, or worst of all panic. The lack of answers answered the question. They did NOT panic! Nor did they even care! But that in itself could be a sort of panic. Maybe they did not want to know! Now that should have MJ thinking, "If we tell them they wont care." But NASA/JPL's shut down of the site shows us that they are not ready yet. I respect the Martians right to privacy. I beleive that altho there are very old structures on Mars there are also very modern ones and huge one piece cities! It seems that they build their buildings all conected to one another. Perhaps the Mars pics will eventualy aid in disclouser and face to face meeting with the world. Or then again maybe not. My next project-----TIME TRAVEL !