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 The Golden Thread, Volume 5.9 2011 
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==== More on Dulles ====

Lyndon Johnson and Allen Dulles as co-CEOs of the JFK Assassination
A very prominent JFK assasssination researcher told me in the past year that it could very well be a case of Allen Dulles and Lyndon Johnson as co-CEOs of the JFK assassination. That is pretty much what I think, with the shadow government of a handful of Texas oil barons and the Rockefellers, especially Nelson, giving Lyndon Johnson and Allen Dulles their full support. Lyndon Johnson and his close ties to the inner circle of post-WWII US intelligence at the highest levels is the key to the JFK assassination - that means folks like Allen Dulles, Nelson Rockefeller, and John J. McCloy.

I think it is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT that Lyndon Johnson's #1 pick for president in spring, 1968 was Republican Nelson Rockefeller.

Whenever I think of Allen Dulles, I think of how he built the CIA, hated John Kennedy and was handing out books to Warren Commission members on the FIRST day and telling them all US political assassinations were the work of lone nuts. THAT ALONE is enough to make a citizen's arrest of Allen Dulles for the JFK assassination.

So, lets look at the Allen Dulles angle possibility put forth by Jim DiEugenio:

JIM DIEUGENIO ON ALLEN DULLES:

1. Dulles was the most active member of the Warren Commission. This is deduced by his appearances and number of questions according to Walt Brown in The Warren Omission.

2. Through the Morgan empire, the Dulles brothers were in on the formation of the CFR.

3. At Sullivan and Cromwell, Allen's value was in his services derived from overseas connections to top clients like United Fruit, and DuPont. (Mosley, p. 77) For example, in 1932 he saved a rich oil and mineral field for the Mellon family when he rigged the Colombian presidential elections by bribing one of the candidates. (Lisagor and Lipsius, p. 129) It is these types of clients that Allen would stay loyal to when he became CIA Director by arranging things like the Guatemala coup in 1954 for United Fruit.

4. Dulles revolutionized the CIA, and it became his baby.

It was Dulles who began the Agency's specialty of engineering the overthrows of governments who wanted to keep their natural resources for themselves i.e. Iraq in 1953, Guatemala in 1954. It was under Dulles that the CIA began its program of executive action against nationalist heads of state in the resource rich Third World e.g. plotting the murder of Patrice Lumumba in the Congo. It was under Dulles that the concept of preparing lists of those to be killed after a coup became established doctrine. (See here) And it was under Dulles that men willing to do this kind of dirty work now rose in the Agency e.g. David Phillips and Howard Hunt. Dulles originated the CIA's use of religious groups as cover organizations. Dulles began the systematic process of using the media to disguise these lethal actions and keep them from the public. That particular project was called Operation Mockingbird. As Director, Dulles' worst traits had free rein because his brother was Secretary of State and Foster had strong influence over President Eisenhower.

5. What is extraordinary about what Dulles did with the CIA is that it was too much for even certain elements of the Eastern Establishment i.e. the very people who Dulles worked with and for. In 1956, David Bruce and Robert Lovett composed the Bruce-Lovett Report on the CIA for President Eisenhower. That report is almost nowhere to be found today. RFK had access to it during his service on the board of inquiry into the Bay of Pigs debacle. Bruce and Lovett had served on the forerunner of what came to be known as the Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board: a group of private citizens meant to monitor American intelligence activities abroad.

Lovett told the Cuban board that, "I have never felt that the Congress of the United States ever intended to give the United States Intelligence Agency authority to conduct operations all over the earth." (ibid) Lovett's report and testimony held great sway with the Kennedys. In fact, Joseph Kennedy was so impressed by working with Lovett that he urged JFK to offer him a top job in his Cabinet. After his Bay of Pigs testimony, President Kennedy called Lovett in for a private meeting. He told the president that the CIA was "badly organized, dangerously amateurish and excessively costly." It had to be re-organized, which wasn't possible with Eisenhower as president and Dulles as Director. (ibid p. 478)

There can be little doubt that Lovett's testimony and his relationship with Kennedy's father helped convince JFK to fire Allen Dulles. How important was it? Lovett's influence was so profound that after JFK fired Dulles, Robert Kennedy was determined to find out if any other relative of Dulles was still at the State Department. When he found out that Allen's sister Eleanor worked there, he ordered Dean Rusk to fire her. Because "he didn't want any more of the Dulles family around." (Mosley, p. 473)

This is the man LBJ appointed to the Warren Commission. As shown above, he became the most active member of that cover-up. And it started almost immediately. At the Commission's second meeting he urged the Commissioners to read a book by Robert Donovan that depicted " a pattern running through" American assassinations "that I think we'll find in this present case." Namely, they are the work of one man. (12/16 transcript, p. 52) Dulles also backed the idea of the Commission not having independent investigators. (DiEugenio, p. 90)

6. It later turned out that Dulles had nothing but scorn for both the evidence and critical arguments against the Oswald-did-it hypothesis. In 1965, at UCLA, David Lifton questioned Dulles about the Zapruder film and Harold Feldman's essay entitled "51 Witnesses" about many witnesses hearing a shot from the grassy knoll. Dulles not only denied that evidence, he ridiculed Lifton for even bringing it up. He said bizarre things like "There is not a single iota of evidence indicating a conspiracy." When Lifton pointed out testimony, and even pictures, of smoke arising on the grassy knoll, Dulles derisively replied with, "Now what are you saying, someone was smoking up there?" When Lifton brought up Feldman's essay, Dulles – even though he knew full well about it – asked him where it was published. When Lifton answered, Dulles replied, with ridicule: "The Nation! Ha, ha, ha, ha , ha." When Lifton showed him frames from the Zapruder film arranged in sequential order to show Kennedy's head going back toward the seat – the opposite direction of a shot from the Texas School Book Depository – Dulles said: "You have nothing! Absolutely nothing! ... I can't see a blasted thing here. You can't say the head goes back. I can't see it going back. It does not go back. You can't say that." Dulles then tried to neutralize this Z film argument by tendentiously saying he had never heard it before. (Best Evidence, pgs. 34-36) When, of course, the Commission had seen the film dozens of times. They just did not feel that powerful evidence, like Kennedy's violent reaction backwards, merited mention in the Warren Report.

7. Although Dulles was married, he had multiple affairs throughout his life. One of his lengthier dalliances was with Mary Bancroft. He met her in Switzerland and brought her into the OSS. (Mosley, pgs 170-71) Mary Bancroft admitted that she was friends from an early age with Ruth Forbes Paine. (George Michael Evica, A Certain Arrogance, p. 234) In fact, Mary Bancroft and Ruth Forbes remained friends for a very long time. So when she divorced her first husband, Ruth and her new husband Arthur Young were still friendly with Bancroft. (ibid) Ruth Forbes was the mother of Michael Paine, and mother-in-law to Ruth Paine. This was the Quaker couple who befriended the Oswalds in 1963 and separated Marina from Lee after their return to Dallas from New Orleans. After Oswald's arrest, that separation enabled Ruth to have much control over Oswald's possessions, which were left in the Paine garage. Some of this turned into dubious, yet incriminating evidence against him e.g. the infamous backyard photographs.

In light of the Bancroft-Paine relationship, I have always found the following quote by and about Dulles to be interesting and provocative: "Dulles joked in private that the [JFK] conspiracy buffs would have had a field day if they had known ... he had actually been in Dallas three weeks before the murder ... that one of Mary Bancroft's childhood friends had turned out to be a landlady for Marina Oswald ... and that the landlady was a well-known leftist with distant ties to the family of Alger Hiss." (Evica, p. 230) Dulles had a weird sense of humor. To some, those facts are no laughing matter.

8. In addition to being in Dallas three weeks before the assassination, Lisa Pease has discovered another curious location for Dulles on the actual day of the assassination. According to notes written on his calendar, Dulles happened to be at "the Farm". You have to know something about CIA shorthand to understand what that means. As Jim Hougan discovered, it can actually refer to two places: the CIA training facility in Camp Peary, Virginia, or Mitch Werbell's sixty acre weapons development laboratory in Georgia. (Hougan, Spooks, p. 29) As Hougan notes, the confusion in the names is deliberate. For Werbell was a wizard in creating lethal weapons to be used in counter-insurgency warfare and assassinations, neither of which the CIA wanted to be openly involved with. In discussing a silencer created by Werbell, Hougan noted the following: that the sound pattern created in Dealey Plaza – with shots heard in two directions – could well have been created by two teams using Werbell's partial directional silencers. (ibid, p. 36) It would be interesting to hear Dulles explain why he was at either place on that day. Especially since he was not employed by the CIA anymore.

9.. But someone else saw Truman's column and had a different reaction. In April of 1964, while serving on the Commission, Allen Dulles arranged to meet Truman at his home. After exchanging formalities, Dulles had arranged for his assistants to leave the room. Dulles then did two things: 1.) He tried to soften Truman up by telling him how much he admired him for setting down the Truman Doctrine after World War II, and 2.) He tried to say that what he covertly did as CIA Director was only a natural evolution of the Truman Doctrine. In short: guilt by association. Dulles then pulled out the real reason for why he was there. He took out the December 22nd editorial and said that, consequently, Truman's editorial "seemed to be a misrepresentation of his position."

As the meeting ended and his associates rejoined the two men, Dulles explicitly praised John McCone, the man JFK picked to succeed to his office after Kennedy fired him. But as of yet, there had been no explicit mention of President Kennedy himself. Dulles now did so, and in a startling way. As he was leaving, he mentioned the "false attacks" on CIA in relation to Vietnam and how Kennedy had repudiated those attacks. This last statement suggests that Dulles harbored suspicions that this dispute was why Truman wrote the editorial.

Dulles concludes the memo by saying he was not sure "what will come of all this. It is even possible, maybe probable, that he will do nothing when he thinks it over." He then suggests that Houston get the president's old pal Clark Clifford to contact Truman and perhaps even McCone should do so himself. He then tells Houston to show the memo to Richard Helms and Cord Meyer and perhaps they can do something with the Director.

The clear implication is that Dulles wanted Truman to either take back or soften his December editorial. If he didn't succeed, he wanted a phalanx of people to intervene: Clifford, Helms, Cord Meyer, even John McCone if necessary.

We now come to an utterly fascinating parting shot: Dulles bringing up the recent "false attacks" on CIA in relation to Vietnam. He's probably referring to the now-famous columns published in October and December of 1963. The October columns were penned by Arthur Krock and Richard Starnes for the NY Times and Washington Daily News. The December ones were by Starnes for the New York World-Telegram. Krock's piece mentioned a source in Vietnam who likened the CIA's growth "to a malignancy" which even the White House could not control. His source added that if the USA ever experienced a coup it would come from the CIA and not the Pentagon. Starnes' source said the same: "If the United States ever experiences a Seven Days in May it will come from the CIA, and not from the Pentagon." In a column dated 12/11 Starnes explained how Prince Sihanouk of Cambodia was worried about certain CIA elements trying to overthrow him. Starnes later added that an Agency source told him he was appalled at what was going on in Southeast Asia, and questioned whether President Kennedy had had any "effective control over this monstrous bureaucracy." In a 12/3 column, Starnes questioned that with Dulles on the Commission, how could the truth about Oswald in the Soviet Union ever be known? Of course, Kennedy could not have repudiated the December columns, but I know of no place where he repudiated the October columns. In all probability, Dulles was trying to dupe Truman into issuing a retraction. But his actions are even more suggestive if he was referring to those columns; especially when one adds in the fact that he specifically mentioned Kennedy to Truman in regards to them. Because if one looks at the first generation of Kennedy assassination books, no one connected those dots – Vietnam, those columns, JFK's death – that early. Was Dulles trying to prevent anyone from doing so in the near future?

Any objective person would admit that this material on Dulles is relevant in evaluating the make-up of the Warren Commission. Especially since he became its most active member. The reader must pose the obvious question: Why did LBJ ask this guy to be on the Commission? To put it another way: If you were Oswald's defense lawyer, would Dulles be on the jury?
(Abridged from my Reclaiming History Review, Pt. 8)

https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?5802-Lyndon-Johnson-and-Allen-Dulles-as-co-CEOs-of-the-JFK-Assassination

--- Now after deep background on Dulles

The first page of the now-infamous burned memo (See JFK Doc 4), reportedly written by the director of Central Intelligence (Allen Dulles), said:

"As you must know, Lancer (JFK) has made some inquiries regarding our activities, which we cannot allow. Please submit your views no later than October. Your action to this matter is critical to the continuance of the group."

Now your minds have framed who Dulles is. He was one many Majestic Lieutenants an insider in the UFO / Assignation cover up of all time !

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Excellent finds, PhaTz. We've known that LBJ was "in on" the assassination, even if all we have to go on is the testimony of his mistress at the time, whom he assured during some "pillow-talk" the night before the killing that the following day would see JFK get his comeuppance. And from what we know of the participation of the US Secret Service (imagine that! The very people sworn to protect the man are the main instrument of his death!), shown in the videos MT7 posted and Bill Cooper told us about, we know that the long hand of Majestic was in so many pots as to make it virtually impossible to track back to them. However, the chief villain in all that was - as you suggest - Allen Dulles. Being that he was in charge of the CIA, we know that he held a Chair in Majestic, and in order to accomplish the dirty deed the CIA (a Bush-baby org if there ever was one) had to be not only 'in on it', but guilty in the first degree. Keeping in mind the claims that Bush had been told of the poleshift back in the 40s, thanks to the first crash at Cape Girardeau, Missouri, and his subsequent allowing of Barbara to be impregnated with more than one zygote (along with - ahem - several other surrogate mothers) in order to assure his progeny would be in the position of control of the American power elite at the proper time, we can see the logic behind his active participation in the murder. Why not? JFK represented everything the Bushes were opposed to; instead, they offered up the paltry facsimile of "noblesse oblige", a condescending political philosophy if ever there was one. JFK might have been the scion of privilege, and a promiscuous one at that, but he valued merit over inherited wealth and selfish greed. Had he been allowed to continue in his efforts to disclose the truth of the extraterrestrial presence (and why they arrived in the first place), he would have represented the most dire threat of all to the Bush plan. Dulles, as another Bush protege and peer, was the perfect point man in Majestic who could not only help ensure the success of that plan but actually carry it out. Of course, it would be necessary to co-opt the replacement president, which was easy enough since there was quite a bit of resentment on LBJ's part towards the rival who had defeated him for the nomination in 1960. From what I understand, and I suppose I'll have to dig up the corroborating documentation on this, LBJ got enough funds out of the deal to pave the roads on his Texas ranch. Talk about '30 pieces of silver'.......

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==== Dulles / UFO comments.. connects all to assignation / UFO's ====

The LBJ-CIA Assassination of JFK

Lyndon Johnson made a dirty deal with CIA Republicans to murder John Kennedy in the 1963 Coup d’Etat. (People like Clint Murchison Sr., H.L. Hunt, Nelson Rockefeller, David Rockefeller, top Nelson Rockefeller aide Henry Kissinger, George Herbert Walker Bush and Gen. Edward Lansdale all are excellent candidates for elite sponsorship.) Lyndon Johnson and Allen Dulles may very well have been co-CEOs of the JFK assassination; with the CIA in charge of the killing of JFK, and Lyndon Johnson and (his close friend and neighbor of 19 years in Washington, DC) FBI director J. Edgar Hoover in charge of the cover up.

Clint Murchison, Sr – more so than even H.L. Hunt – was a key player in the JFK assassination because of his close ties to the inner core of US intelligence (Allen Dulles, Nelson Rockefeller, John J. McCloy), close ties to Lyndon Johnson and J. Edgar Hoover of the FBI, bankers Rockefellers; Murchison was even friends with key Kennedy-hater mafia godfather Carlos Marcellos of New Orleans. Not only that, Murchison, Sr. was a patient and partner of Dr. Alton Oschner, the former president of the American Cancer Society and who ran covert cancer research for the CIA. Oschner, likewise was a Kennedy-hater. John Simkin: “One of Ochsner's friends described him as being ‘like a fundamentalist preacher in the sense that the fight against communism was the only subject that he would talk about, or even allow you to talk about, in his presence.”
When JFK was slaughtered, Russia’s Khrushchev was literally crying, fearing nuclear war. Cuba’s Castro worried and feared an US invasion and gave an impressive speech the next day deconstructing the CIA’s deception provocation for war. Meanwhile at Clint Murchison’s home, their family maid May Newman describes the scene: “The mood in the Murchison family home was very joyous and happy. For a whole week after like champagne and caviar flowed, every day of the week. But I was the only one in that household at that time that felt any grief for his assassination."
The Warren Commission should have really been called the “Allen Dulles Commission” because he controlled it and made it the farce that it was. Dulles was probably an elite sponsor (i.e. murderer), as well as certainly Lyndon Johnson. The 3 hardcore cover up artists on the Warren Commission were the 3 Council on Foreign Relations members: Allen Dulles (president CFR 1946-50), John J. McCloy (then chairman of the CFR 1953-1970) and Gerald Ford (CFR member, later president). John J. McCloy was a Rockefeller man, former head of Chase Manhattan bank, and very deep US intelligence since the OSS days. John J. McCloy’s nickname was “Chairman of the American Establishment,” and he mixed at the highest levels of business, intelligence and he was close to the Kennedy-hating Texas business elite. Cover up artist Gerald Ford was secretly reporting to Hoover and the FBI what the Warren Commission was doing. In 1970, Newsweek called Gerald Ford the CIA’s “best friend in Congress.” The CFR especially 40 years ago, was heavily Rockefeller influenced and it top players were deep CIA.

The CIA has been called the military wing of the CFR; and actually that is not too far from the truth. The CFR was in its heyday from 1950-1990.

Here is an absolutely spectacular article why the National Security State murdered John Kennedy: John Kennedy was despised by and did not control his CIA nor his Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Lyndon Johnson’s reasons to murder were out of his deep desperation and fear of what would become of him after his imminent expulsion from the 1964 Democratic ticket and his fears of going to jail over the exploding Bobby Baker scandal. LIFE magazine, being fed extremely damaging info by Robert Kennedy, was set to run an expose on Lyndon Johnson’s corruption that would blow him out of the water once and for all (Dec. 6th issue, but due to be printed and mailed on 11/29/63: source James Wagenvoord who worked at LIFE then). Bobby Baker was the protégé of a wildly corrupt LBJ in the Senate; Lyndon Johnson was like both a dad and a big brother to Bobby Baker (who named two of his children after LBJ: Lynda and Lyndon). Both Lyndon Johnson and Bobby Baker were receiving tremendous amounts of under-the-table money while Johnson was running the Senate. The Kennedys and LIFE Magazine were literally days away from politically executing Lyndon Johnson with the rope of the unraveling Bobby Baker scandal. After vaporizing the despised Lyndon Johnson, John Kennedy was going to replace LBJ most likely with Terry Sanford of North Carolina or possibly his good friend George Smathers of Florida as VP on the 1964 Democratic ticket.

The Kennedys and Lyndon Johnson were having a sub rosa fight: Jack and Robert Kennedy brought knives to the battle and Lyndon Johnson brought guns and it was settled on 11/22/63 at 12:30 PM in Dallas.

Lately, I have been studying the role of McGeorge Bundy, the National Security Advisor for JFK and Henry Cabot Lodge, JFK’s insubordinate ambassador to Vietnam who Kennedy was planning to fire on Monday, 11/25/63. It is probable that both McGeorge Bundy and Henry Cabot Lodge were involved some way with the JFK assassination. McGeorge Bundy, astonishingly, was already drafting sharp escalations to JFK’s Vietnam policy NSAM 273 (which JFK would not have approved) on 11/21/63, the night before the 1963 Coup d’Etat! Bundy later ran the Ford Foundation from 1966-1979.

JFK’s Secretary of State, Dean Rusk, who ran the Rockefeller Foundation from 1952-1961, and was also a hawk on Vietnam, is another one who merits close scrutiny in the Coup of 1963. Kennedy had appointed Rusk because it was unlikely that the Senate would confirm JFK’s first choice J. William Fulbright, who later became a prominent opponent of the Vietnam War. After the 1963 Coup d’Etat, Rusk lasted through all the blood and guts of Vietnam and all the way through Jan., 1969, as Johnson’s Secretary of State. Walt Rostow (CFR), another Vietnam hawk, replaced McGeorge Bundy (CFR) as National Security Advisor in 1966. The CFR and the Rockefellers, not John Kennedy, lusted for the Vietnam War.

The midlevel murderers (field operations) of JFK would include CIA guys like Richard Helms, James Angleton, David Morales, William King Harvey, E. Howard Hunt, Frank Sturgis, David Atlee Phillips and perhaps Cord Meyer. Deputy Harry Weatherford is a good candidate to have been on the Records Building as a sniper. Influential mobster Johnny Roselli was especially close friends with the CIA’s William King Harvey, a rabid Kennedy hater. The most likely mafia godfathers involved would be Carlos Marcello and Santos Trafficante, particularly in the Jack Ruby murder of Oswald and perhaps in the JFK Assassination as well and other murders in the post assassination cover up.

We now know Lyndon Johnson was far worse than he is presented in current biographies. Far beyond ballot stuffing, bribery, massive under-the-table kickbacks, and being a consummate and pathological liar, Lyndon Johnson was murdering a lot of people in Texas to cover up his eye popping corruption. A prime example is the murder of US agricultural official Henry Marshall in June, 1961, and who then Vice President Lyndon Johnson arranged to have murdered. In the 1980’s, Billie Sol Estes, a close and corrupt partner of LBJ, began confessing to the murders that he, Lyndon Johnson, Cliff Carter and LBJ’s personal hit man Malcolm Wallace committed. Lyndon Johnson, a manic depressive – and at times a barely functioning psychopath - murdered perhaps 10-20 people to avoid exposure before he got his knife wet with John Kennedy’s blood.

We now know that Lyndon Johnson and Sam Rayburn with Hoover’s dossier on JFK, used sexual blackmail threats on John Kennedy on the night of July 13th at the 1960 Democratic convention in Los Angeles to force Kennedy to put LBJ on the ticket. Johnson was not on JFK’s short list for VP; he was not on the long list. LBJ was not on the VP list – period.

John Kennedy told his close friend Hy Raskin: “You know we had never considered Lyndon, but I was left with no choice. He and Sam Rayburn made it damn clear to me that Lyndon had to be the candidate. Those bastards were trying to frame me. They threatened me with problems and I don’t need more problems. I’m going to have enough problems with Nixon.” Evelyn Lincoln, JFK’s secretary for 11+ years, also confirms that Lyndon Johnson used sexual blackmail combined with other threats to force JFK to put LBJ on the 1960 Democratic ticket.

My current thinking on US intelligence agent Lee Harvey Oswald is that he was indeed involved in the JFK assassination, but he was a patsy who shot NO ONE that day, neither John Kennedy nor Officer J.D. Tippit. Both murders were complete frame jobs. Oswald was a fake defector to Russia and his behavior in New Orleans 1963 was all about Oswald’s sheep dipping as he passed out pro-Castro flyers and pretended to be a “pro-Castro Marxist.” Meanwhile Oswald was working in concert in New Orleans with folks like David Ferrie and Guy Bannister whose politics were the equivalent of a 1960’s Strom Thurmond or Jesse Helms. Oswald’s fake public persona as a “pro-Casto Marxist” meant that he was an ideal pick as a patsy and his likely knowledge of and/or participation in the JFK Assassination meant that he had to be murdered quickly. The folks who killed Oswald wanted a “dead Red” not a “talking head.” The JFK assassination was a deception provocation intended to facilitate a US military invasion of Cuba. It was that bad and ugly. A US invasion of Cuba might have provoked a broader war with Russia and from the point of view of some like Air Force General Curtis LeMay that was fine because, astoundingly, he wanted to wage and “win” a nuclear WWIII. Curtis LeMay hated Kennedy so much that a child could have recruited him into a plot to kill Kennedy. LeMay told Kennedy during the Cuban Missile Crisis that he was an appeaser equivalent to Neville Chamberlain for not bombing Cuba.

That was the pool of sharks John Kennedy was swimming in: a desperate and psychopathic serial killer Vice-President Lyndon Johnson who was literally murdering a string of people down in Texas and who was waging a sub rosa war with the Kennedys, an out-of-control CIA hell bent on a coup; an FBI director Hoover who detested JFK and who was close friends and neighbors with LBJ, and a JCS military brass who wanted to invade Cuba, wage the war in Vietnam, and Curtis Lemay who, according to Robert McNamara, wanted to wage full scale nuclear war with Russia, giving them the “Sunday punch” while the USA still had first strike capability. Add to that the white hot mafia hatred that Robert Kennedy was engendering with his prosecutions. This same mafia had been working hand in glove with their friends the CIA to take out Castro in Cuba. Think of these enemies of JFK as fasces: “a bundle of wooden sticks with an axe blade emerging from the center, which is an image that traditionally symbolizes summary power and jurisdiction, and/or strength through unity.”

The elite domestic murderers of JFK did it for many reasons, both personal and ideological. At the core it was Lyndon Johnson, the CIA, and the shadow government of Texas oil barons and the Rockefellers. It was not either/or the Western “Cowboys” or the Eastern “Yankees” who murdered John Kennedy: it was the elites of both.

I always want to learn and I am always willing to change my mind. Two excellent books to read on the JFK assassination are 1) LBJ: Mastermind of JFK’s Assassination (2010) by Phillip Nelson and 2) JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why it Matters (2008) by James Douglass. Review:

Richard Nixon knew the dirty truth about the JFK assassination, but I do not think he was directly involved. In fact, when Nixon was under intense Watergate pressure, his firewall strategy as recorded on the “smoking gun tape” was to ominously say don’t investigate me because it you do “the President believes that this is going to open up the whole Bay of Pigs thing again” – an obvious reference to the JFK assassination. Nixon’s aide Dean Burch said that when George Herbert Walker Bush heard that “He broke out in a____s and s__t himself to death.” GHW Bush was probably an elite planner of the JFK assassination.

Without a doubt, top honors for being biggest source for disinformation on the Coup of 1963 has been the NY Times whose reporting on the JFK assassination has been the equivalent of 1950’s Soviet style propaganda, i.e. completely fraudulent and parroting the 1960’s fantastic whoppers of LBJ, FBI, CIA and the Warren Commission. CBS News, ABC News, the Washington Post and the former LIFE magazine and CIA assets in other major media have been equally bad. LIFE Magazine actually bought the rights to the Zapruder film early on and never showed it once to the American people in video form., which would have revealed the incriminating “back and to the left” head snap of John Kennedy, all but proving a kill shot from the Grassy Knoll (grassy knoll shooting area being an extremely close 33 yards away from JFK). Finally, when American hero Robert Groden showed the Zapruder film on Geraldo on ABC in 1975, millions of Americans knew without a doubt what a sham the Warren Commission was.

A special word about the Council on Relations role in the 1963 Coup d’Etat and cover up: no other organization has been more responsible for the murder and cover up of John Kennedy than the CFR. Elite CFR members such as Allen Dulles, Nelson Rockefeller and George Herbert Walker Bush were probably sponsors of the JFK assassination. Certainly leadership CFR members such as Allen Dulles, John J. McCloy, and Gerald Ford played the most critical roles in the Warren Commission farce. Add in cover up roles played by Nelson Rockefeller (CFR), Henry Kissinger (CFR), Richard Helms (CFR), William Colby CIA/CFR, McGeorge Bundy (CFR), Nicholas Katzenbach (CFR), Jack Valenti (CFR), Bill Moyers (CFR), William Coleman (CFR) James Reston NY Times (CFR), Anthony Lewis NY Times (CFR), Walter Cronkite CBS (CFR), Dan Rather CBS (CFR), Peter Jennings ABC (CFR), Daniel Schorr (CFR), Arthur Ochs Sulzberger NY Times (CFR), Kenneth Gilmore Readers’ Digest (CFR), Stephen Rosenfeld Washington Post (CFR), Bobbie Ray Inman (CFR), Donald Rumsfeld (CFR)… the list is almost endless. Note two things: 1) they are the key establishment players of BOTH major political parties spanning decades 2) their power and influence is directly proportional to the fantastic whoppers they tell about in the 1963 Coup d’Etat. For the older CFR members it is a case of PARTICIPATION and COVER UP in the JFK assassination. For the younger ones such as George Will (CFR), Charles Krauthammer (CFR), Bill Kristol (CFR), David Gergen (CFR), John Segenthaler (CFR), Frank Sesno (CFR), Michael Beschloss (CFR), Michael Gerson (CFR) it is a case of WILLFUL IGNORANCE as they still push the Big Lie. Note: Chris Matthews of Hardball, another willfully ignorant man, is close friends with Richard Haass, current president of CFR. I have never seen the highly acclaimed political guru Michael Barone, a Bilderberger attendee, ever say anything credible on the JFK assassination.

Question: do we really expect the CFR to admit that some of its elite members slaughtered John Kennedy and many more played integral roles in the cover up? No, but it is important to highlight that the Council on Foreign Relations has stunk up the place with tremendous amounts of radioactive horse manure relating to the 1963 Coup d’Etat.

The 1963 Coup d’Etat was very similar to the 1992 election between George Herbert Walker Bush, Ross Perot and Bill Clinton. In 1963, there was a Texas Vice President, a desperate and dangerous Lyndon Johnson - supported by the CFR, the intelligence agencies, military contractors and the oil industry - who feared exposure of his criminality and was on the verge of political and personal annihilation. So Lyndon Johnson used the CIA to murder his political rival John Kennedy.

In the 1992, there was a Texas President, a desperate and dangerous George Herbert Walker Bush, supported by the CFR, the intelligence agencies, military contractors and the oil industry - who feared exposure of his criminality and was on the verge of political and personal annihilation. Ross Perot was well aware of the gargantuan Bush/Clinton/CIA drug smuggling of the 1980’s. So George Herbert Walker Bush used CIA assassins to threaten to murder Ross Perot. GHW Bush feared what Perot, a self-funded (and therefore uncontrollable) billionaire might do in office. Bush, like LBJ 29 years before, faced both political and personal annihilation if an untainted Ross Perot were elected.

Ross Perot was leading in a Time/CNN poll in June, 1992, with 37% to 24% Clinton, 24% Bush. On July 16, 1992, Ross Perot, a billionaire who could self-fund and was leading in the polls significantly, QUIT the presidential race because he feared that a desperate George Herbert Walker Bush might assassinate him. Google “Chip Tatum Pegasus” and read about the elite CIA assassin who quit rather than do what George Herbert Walker Bush had ordered him to do: An incensed Perot later got back in the race only to ensure the election of Bill Clinton.

I think that George Herbert Walker Bush became a made man with the JFK assassination in 1963. One of the first things the Bill Clinton CFR did after he got elected in 1992 was to ask Webb Hubbell at Justice to find out who really killed John Kennedy.

The Discovery Channel has put out some incredibly bogus, poorly done disinfo presentations such as Inside the Target Car. Any MSM site that features Vincent Bugliosi, Gerald Posner, especially Hugh Aynesworth, Edward Jay Epstein, Gus Russo, Michael Shermer, Dale Meyers, Max Holland, Dave Perry or Gary Mack prominently and positively is giving you counterfeit money. Edward Epstein and Gerald Posner in particular are thought by many credible JFK researchers to be CIA propagandists. If you google “JFK assassination” the first 2 links that come up are lone nutter controlled disinfo sites: 1) Wikipedia 2) John McAdam’s site. John McAdams is a very lowly regarded man who basically controls JFK related content on Wikipedia as well as his own site. Both Wikipedia and the NY Times are both tremendously dishonest sources for information relating to the 1963 Coup d’Etat. Finally, another major source of disinformation on the Coup of 1963 is the Sixth Floor Museum in Dallas, which blithely recycles the shredded vapors of the Warren Commission, as if it had an ounce of truth in it. Gary Mack, the curator of the Sixth Floor Museum, simply does not have credibility on the JFK assassination.

In the near future there are going to be efforts by both Tom Hanks (HBO series) and Leonardo DiCaprio (a movie) to take on the JFK assassination. Sadly, these are both going to be disinformation efforts; the ONLY legitimate take on the JFK assassination is that it was a full blown domestic coup d’etat. Tom Hanks is a clueless lone nutter.


As for videos, I highly recommend going to You Tube and watching the extremely important The Men Who Killed Kennedy - (episodes 7, 8, and 9). Much of these episodes focus on the role of Lyndon Johnson in the 1963 Coup d’Etat and they were BANNED from the History Channel because they were so accurate. LBJ aide Jack Valenti (CFR) organized a suppression campaign on the videos along with Lady Bird Johnson, Warren Commission con man Gerald Ford (CFR), Jimmy Carter (CFR) and Bill Moyers (CFR). Also, on You Tube watch “Evidence of Revision” and Jesse Ventura’s 2010 Conspiracy Theory show on the JFK assassination (You Tube ). In addition, I recommend JFK the movie by Oliver Stone, director’s cut. Oliver Stone, despite immense criticism in the MSM by CIA assets, pretty much nailed the JFK assassination. It was a full blown Coup d’Etat by Lyndon Johnson, the CIA and key elements of the U.S. military.

Robert Morrow is a political researcher with over 200+ books on the 1963 Coup d’Etat, aka JFK assassination. His email is Morrow321 AT aol.com and he accepts phone calls at 512-306-1510.

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Extremely fascinating, PhaTz. You must've had some of that research ready to post it seems; that's some fairly dense material for only a few minutes time! I wasn't aware of the many details that show how absolutely despicable and deep LBJ's corruption went. I would say though that even though the reasons are many, LBJ himself didn't "order" JFK's killing, but he was certainly the beneficiary of it. It would be necessary to have JFK's successor part and parcel of the plot, if only to ensure that any subsequent investigation would succeed in a whitewash; the fact that little outcry was heard when he appointed Allen Dulles - a man who had been fired by Kennedy and therefore certainly not 'impartial' - to the Warren Commission was an ominous sign of the silence to come.

Turns out Allen Dulles was more than just the DCI (Director Central Intelligence); he was also the main proponent of MK-ULTRA, which he nurtured into existence. Even more interesting to me was his 1921 "expose" of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion as a "forgery". I find that to be of huge consequence; all along, I've felt that the Protocols had the ring of truth to it, even if they weren't a product of zionists but perhaps 'illuminists'. Dulles did this while working at the US embassy in Istanbul, and sent his "expose" to the London Times, which printed it, and it was then picked up by the New York Times. After that, the issue was pretty well settled, at least in the minds of those who don't scratch deep enough when researching the truth. This may have been his Establishment "thesis" that gained him entry into the world his blueblood family played a central role in. After all, his maternal grandfather was Sec'y. of State under Pres. Harrison, and his older brother John was Sec'y. of State under Eisenhower. Allen himself also played a key role in the actual formation of the CIA as part of the National Security Act of 1947, which was the primary response to the Roswell crash. It stands to reason that he certainly WOULD play a major role in Majestic, and therefore the one who most probably gave the actual directives to carry out the assassination following a vote on the matter. In fact, I would even go so far as to say that he was MJ-1 during the time, and most likely took great pleasure in issuing the order after the bitter firing he suffered at JFK's hands.

While reading the Wiki on Dulles ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Welsh_Dulles ), I also discovered that he "personally oversaw" Operation Mockingbird, a program that controlled the major organs of the US media by infiltrating them and paying off many of the chief reporters and commentators. When people wonder why the US has such a right-wing background when it comes to the media, as opposed to the more libertarian and liberal views of the poorer 2/3rds of the population, they need look no further than this corruption of the MSM. To illustrate (taken from the Wiki link at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird ):

"In 1977, Rolling Stone alleged that one of the most important journalists under the control of Operation Mockingbird was Joseph Alsop, whose articles appeared in over 300 different newspapers. Other journalists alleged by Rolling Stone Magazine to have been willing to promote the views of the CIA included Stewart Alsop (New York Herald Tribune), Ben Bradlee (Newsweek), James Reston (New York Times), Charles Douglas Jackson (Time Magazine), Walter Pincus (Washington Post), William C. Baggs (The Miami News), Herb Gold (The Miami News) and Charles Bartlett (Chattanooga Times).[8] According to Nina Burleigh (A Very Private Woman), these journalists sometimes wrote articles that were commissioned by Frank Wisner. The CIA also provided them with classified information to help them with their work.[9]

After 1953, the network was overseen by Allen W. Dulles, director of the Central Intelligence Agency. By this time Operation Mockingbird had a major influence over 25 newspapers and wire agencies. These organizations were run by people with well-known right-wing views such as William Paley (CBS), Henry Luce (Time and Life Magazine), Arthur Hays Sulzberger (New York Times), Alfred Friendly (managing editor of the Washington Post), Jerry O'Leary (Washington Star), Hal Hendrix (Miami News), Barry Bingham, Sr., (Louisville Courier-Journal), James Copley (Copley News Services) and Joseph Harrison (Christian Science Monitor).[8]"


Whoa. Did I just see the name of Walter Pincus?!? Yes, I did! NOW I know why my attempts to contact him with my case (the one that resulted in the infamous Affidavit of April 13th, 2005) resulted in absolute silence. Of course! He was on Majestic's (er, "CIA") payroll!

Wiki goes on:

"The Office of Policy Coordination (OPC) was funded by siphoning of funds intended for the Marshall Plan. Some of this money was used to bribe journalists and publishers. Frank Wisner was constantly looking for ways to help convince the public of the dangers of communism. In 1954, Wisner arranged for the funding of the Hollywood production of Animal Farm, the animated allegory based on the book written by George Orwell.[10]

According to Alex Constantine (Mockingbird: The Subversion Of The Free Press By The CIA), in the 1950s, "some 3,000 salaried and contract CIA employees were eventually engaged in propaganda efforts". Wisner was also able to restrict newspapers from reporting about certain events. For example, the CIA plots to overthrow the governments of Iran (See: Operation Ajax) and Guatemala (See: Operation PBSUCCESS).[11]"


While I highly recommend reading the full Wiki entry for Operation Mockingbird, I believe it begins to delve into disinfo when it short-circuits the "5412 Committee" as somehow being more concerned with anti-communism than its true purpose: "5412 Committee" was really a cover-group name that hid MJ-12, as was the "40 Committee" later. For the cover-story of these cover-names, here's the "official" wiki on them; they are describing Majestic 'hiding in plain sight':

"NSC 5412/2 Special GroupThe NSC 5412/2 Special Group, often referred simply as the Special Group, was an initially secret, but later public, subcommittee of the United States National Security Council responsible for coordinating government covert operations. Presidential Directive NSC 5412/2, issued December 28, 1954, assigned responsibility for co-ordination of covert actions to representatives of the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Defense, and the President respectively.

The Federation of American Scientists list of national security documents for the Eisenhower administration does not show a directive 5412/2. It does however show a 5412/1 with a classified title (one of only three such documents for the entire administration).

A National Security Archive chronology of the Bay of Pigs Invasion indicates a membership in December 1960 of Allen Dulles, Chairman of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA); Gordon Gray, National Security Advisor; James Douglas, Acting Secretary of Defense; and Livingston T. Merchant, Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs.[1]

[edit] 303 CommitteeThe covert actions oversight group was renamed the 303 Committee after National Security Action Memorandum No. 303 on June 2, 1964. McGeorge Bundy, National Security Advisor, became Chairman for the committee.

The successor to the Special Group was the 40 Committee.[2]

[edit] 40 CommitteeThe 40 Committee was a division of the Executive branch of the United States government whose mandate was to review proposed major covert actions. In 1970 the 40 Committee played a major role in so called "Track I" efforts to prevent Salvador Allende from taking office following the Chilean popular vote of September 4, 1970.

The Committee was a successor to earlier covert oversight and planning groups, variously known as the Special Group 10/2, 5412 Panel, NSC 5412/2 Special Group, Special Group (until 1964), 303 Committee (to 1969), existing since 1954 at the latest."


(the above taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5412_Commi ... cial_Group )

It's my contention that even when it came to domestic politics, and shaping the opinions of millions of Americans, Majestic was involved not only in ordering and orchestrating the assassination of JFK, but in giving a particularly right-wing bent to all forms of media.....and this was based partially on the deep-seated refutation of the spiritual dynamic presented them by their ET (what UJ would term "offworlders") "allies". Even today they react against the true communism implicit in the so-called "STO" (Service-To-Other) philosophy, because for the most part, their own lives have been guided by the ideal of acquiring and expanding their material wealth and power. Because the term "STO" has such negative connotations among many, I'll simply refer to the impulse of "self-sacrifice", a phrase a good friend has suggested. They value this impulse, of course, so long as it is in the service to their elitist community of the Establishment, but to envision themselves as actually going out of their way for someone else, in a personal way? Highly unlikely. But that's left for another conversation.

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1962 - Garabandal

(thanks again, Tex)

To illustrate what I said in my last post, the "principal messenger" among the 4 children of Garabandal who received the messages from the "apparitions" in the visage of the Virgin Mary and Archangel Michael, had the following to say in the so-called "second message" that referred to the first, more general one that appeared in October of 1961:

"As my Message of the 18th of October has not been complied with, and as it has not been made known to the world, I am telling you that this is the last one. Previously, the Cup was filling; now, it is brimming over. Many priests are following the road to perdition, and with them they are taking many more souls. We should turn the wrath of God away from us by our own efforts. If you ask His forgiveness with a sincere heart, He will pardon you. I.... wish to tell you that you should make amends. You are now being given the last warnings. I love you very much, and I do not want your condemnation. Ask Us sincerely and We shall grant your plea. You must make more sacrifices. Reflect on the Passion of Jesus."

(Note: I did remove some of the more Catholic-centric phrases so that the distilled message is there for anyone to grasp.)

Note also that the first general warning of Oct. 18th, 1961 is referred to, and occurred almost a full year prior to the opening of the Second Vatican Council (Vatican II) in which Pope John XXIII derides the "prophets of doom" and by implication the 3rd Secret of Fatima, which as we saw above is supposedly not only connected to "natural disasters and cataclysms", but the "apostasy of the Church" - a clear reference to the pedophilia that was being engaged in full-tilt during that time and which only has come to light in the last decade.

Generally speaking, for all the non-Catholics, the following context in Wiki is helpful too (taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garabandal_apparitions ):

"According to the visionaries, the purpose of the visitations was to call for a "conversion of heart". In the context of most Marian apparitions, "conversion" does not necessarily mean a religious conversion to the Catholic Church, but rather sincere repentance for past sins and amending one's life to follow more closely the teachings of Jesus Christ."

One doesn't have to be a Catholic or a fundamentalist to see that this can apply to humanity universally - even to muslims, hindus, and buddhists, etc. But it is the Catholic context that is important here, because of the connection to the 2nd council of the Vatican, the passing of a package from the "space brothers" to George Adamski and his subsequent passing of that to Pope John XXIII during a private audience with the pope, and of course the silence of the Pope on the 3rd Secret of Fatima that was supposed to be released in 1960, according to the recipient Sister Lucy.

What was going on, with the rise of Camelot, the administration of the first Catholic president, his efforts at Disclosure, his subsequent assassination, the go-between of George Adamski to both the White House and the Vatican that year, and Garabandal? Wasn't that also the hey-day of the birth of the Project Preserve Destiny 'telepathically-improved' children? Something is still missing..... :hmm

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Allen Dulles was a sock puppet for the bigger machine. He was one who would fall on his sword if they ordered it. His connection to the Nazi Party should be obvious but here is a STAKE to drive it right down through the heart of the matter.

The Satanic Andrew Crispo

New York art gallery owner Andrew Crispo, a well-connected socialite linked by author Maury Terry to the Son of Sam cult (see The Ultimate Evil) is the prodigy and a key American agent of Fritz Thyssen: the German industrialist who joined the Nazi Party in 1923, contributed generously to the Nazi remilitarization effort and introduced Allen Dulles to Adolf Hitler.

http://www.whale.to/b/crispo.html

This little jewel connects the dots very clearly. Prescott Bush was also a Nazi.

Rodney Stich's book "Defrauding America" tells of a "deep-cover CIA officer" assigned to a counter-intelligence unit, code-named Pegasus. This unit "had tape-recordings of plans to assassinate Kennedy" from a tap on the phone of J. Edgar Hoover. The people on the tapes were "[Nelson] Rockefeller, Allen Dulles, [Lyndon] Johnson of Texas, George Bush and J. Edgar Hoover."

http://www.crystalinks.com/skullbones2.html

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James Shelby Downard (1913-1998)'s seminal essay, "Sorcery, Sex, Assassination and the Science of Symbolism" analyzed the 1963 President John F. Kennedy assassination in terms of geography, names, and symbols. Kennedy was shot while riding in the back of a limousine on Elm Street in Dallas, Texas, just south of the 33rd degree of latitude, the 33rd Parallel. The United States "Nightmare on Elm Street" happened when a trained assassin, not Lee Harvey Oswald, shot President Kennedy from a position in front of Kennedy. This assassination and the ensuing cover-up are significant because the victim was the most powerful man on earth, the President of the United States, and because the perpetrators have never been brought to justice.

Significant though it was, the JFK assassination is only one among many calculated murders that have happened along, or close to, the 33rd Parallel. The number of murders of people of high position and key witnesses along the 33rd Parallel is significant. In addition, the three most well-known centers of paranormal activity are on or near the 33rd Parallel: Atlantis, the Great Pyramids, and the Bermuda Triangle.

http://therev67.tripod.com/masonsandmystery/masonsandmystery.htm

Dulles's, Rockefeller's, Bush's, Nixon, Etc... All above 33 degree... In documents discovered between Majestic individuals you will find Grand High Worshipful Master code words of importance in the Masonic traditions. All of these men had titles similar to this.

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"...Nelson Rockefeller also stepped into active planning for World War II. The war was to be used both to take over the Saudi Arabian oil interests of Great Britain and also to crush Japan, which was trying to open up vast Chinese oil fields that the Rockefeller interests had suppressed for years for monopolistic purposes. In his very first Cabinet meeting in 1933, Roosevelt reportedly startled everyone by declaring that he wanted to be a wartime president and wondered if a war with Japan could somehow be arranged. But he had to be patient. It took eight years for the Rockefeller-financed "Institute of Pacific Relations" to give him his wish.

http://www.popmartian.com/mcelwaine/7th-coming/30_plus/The%20Dr.%20Beter%20Audio-Letter%20INTELLIGENCE%20REPORTS/ww2caus2.txt

The connections to the Nazi's / Nazi UFO's / High Masonic Illuminati its staggering... JFK didn't have a chance...

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Interesting that LBJ comes up. Yeah, I'm a Texan and, yes, I don't think/believe he was involved. Why you ask?

Because LBJ and the "Duke of Duval County" worked with Richard Daley in Chicago to hand Joe Kennedy the election. It was common knowledge in Texas that several ballot boxes were, uh hum, withheld and magically appeared to carry Texas for Kennedy. Same thing happened in Chicago.

Why would LBJ resort to murdering JFK? He already owned him and Papa Joe, too. I think LBJ might have been a target but not the other way around.

Add to that that LBJ died in 1973 and the cover up continues.

Now Allen Dulles? :hmm

My question is and always has been "who benefited then and benefits to this day from the continuing cover-up?"

That, my dear Watson, is the question in my mind. :sherlock

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As Dulles pointed out the beneficiaries were those who keep the cover-up on UFO's going. Dulles was a murderer. He personally orchestrated coop d'etat globally. But Dulles like LBJ were just sock puppets for those who wish to remain anonymous. Looking at the Dulles memo about JFK's request for UFO info, Dulles clearly demonstrates he is not the man, just someones pit-bull who has to ask for permission from the "group". That group was responsible for sending George Bush and the shooters to the grassy Knoll.

Who is the group... I would say it is exactly like the fabled "Fifth column" strong Nazi ties.. It goes much deeper than this though. Let us go back to Aliens who absolutely know about physics and decide to derail our physics so Nicola Tesla's dream doesn't come true (free abundant power) and we can't challenge these " IMPOSTER'S ". So what do they do they have Hendrick Lorentz, Wilbur Gibbs, and Oliver Heaviside who were Mason's changed the physics so it imposes " FLAT SPACE TIME REALITY ". With this we cannot realize hyper-dimensional Covariant Physics which suggests we can tap into limitless power. These men suppressed physics back in the early 1900's to keep their control over us. Who are the beneficiaries of a system which imposes that we buy all power from them ? The UFO story is one they can't tell because it exposes the many secret programs to keep us as slaves. Without the right physics (Covariant Physics) (This being a huge cover-up) we can never develop power systems that use " Dark Matter / Dark Energy.

The Nazi's developed such a power system and a book about this was written by Joseph Farrel. This connection to Dulles / UFO's / Majestic / Assignation of JFK exemplifies how Majestic (who are not even at the top of the pyramid) have manipulated this ever since the 1940's. This is the mack daddy of smoking guns. Watergate was a trifle as compared to this. There is no way they can run from this.





Why would the Nazi's not want us to develop this power ? Nelson Rockefeller was instrumental in setting up the puppet government in Saudi Arabia. Big oil can makes enemies of those who advocate free energy... Yes.. Who are these beneficiaries.. Indeed... !

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Good catch, UJ. Did you see the article I posted yesterday on this?

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BB, I tend to agree with you that LBJ wasn't the one who 'ordered the hit', but he was aware of the plot and even though he had done quite a bit of skulduggery on behalf of the Party and the ticket, he wasn't an active part of the 'conspiracy'. He did however have to do his part, and that included ensuring Dulles was appointed to the Coverup Warren Commission. Just like most presidents are puppets anyway.

Here's the full interview with Madeleine Duncan Brown, and I was shocked to see at the top of this page that it will be removed from the internet on April 29th, only 1 week from now:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 635576415#

Here's a YouTube-size snip that's much more easily digestable for those readers who dread the excessive and long videos that often seem like so much "homework":



While the gist of her story is made to look like it was he, LBJ, that had ordered the shooting, his exact words to Madeleine the day before was "after tomorrow, those S.O.B.'s [the 'Irish mafia' that surrounded Kennedy] will never embarrass me again".

Here's the spin that puts the whole responsibility on LBJ (and no, I don't subscribe to that theory either; it was Majestic Twelve, pure and simple, that had JFK assassinated - their main hatchet man was Allen Dulles, but even as MJ-1 he was only doing the dirty work of the real Establishment - the Rothschilds and Rockefellers and the bankers that ran the Federal Reserve as their private piggy bank):

http://www.reformation.org/president-ly ... hnson.html

snip (which was taken from Madeleine's book Texas In The Morning):

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On Thursday night, Nov. 21, 1963, the last evening prior to Camelot's demise, I attended a social at Clint Murchison's home. It was my understanding that the event was scheduled as a tribute honoring his long time friend, J. Edgar Hoover, whom Murchison had first met decades earlier through President William Howard Taft, and Hoover's companion and assistant, Clyde Tolson.
The impressive guest list included John J. McCloy, Richard Nixon, George Brown, R.L. Thornton, H.L. Hunt, and a host of others from the 8F group.
The jovial party was just breaking up when Lyndon made an unscheduled visit. I was most surprised by his appearance, since Jesse had not mentioned anything about Lyndon's coming to Clint's. With Lyndon's hectic schedule, I never dreamed he could attend the big party. After all, he had arrived in Dallas on Tuesday to attend the Pepsi-Cola convention.
Tension filled the room upon his arrival. The group immediately went behind closed doors. A short time later Lyndon, anxious and red-faced, reappeared.
I knew how secretively Lyndon operated. Therefore, I said nothing ... not even that I was happy to see him. Squeezing my hand so hard it felt crushed from the pressure, he spoke with a grating whisper—a quiet growl into my ear not a love message, but one I'll always remember: "After tomorrow those goddamn Kennedys will never embarrass me again—that's no threat—that's a promise."
I visibly trembled. He said nothing else, but was off in a flash to join a party at Pat Kirkwood's "Cellar Door," an after-hours night club in Fort Worth. (Madeleine Brown, Texas in the Morning, p. 166).



Yet apparently LBJ went on to say it was the "CIA and the 'Oil people' " that did it. I submit LBJ really didn't know how deep it got, with the CIA being but one of Majestic's dirty tentacles, and this snip from Bob Feldman's blog shows what I'm talking about:


WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 2, 2008

LBJ Told Mistress: `CIA Eliminated JFK'

Although the Warren Commission Report blamed the assassination of President Kennedy in 1963 on Lee Oswald, U.S. President Johnson apparently told his mistress, Madeline Brown, that the CIA was responsible for the elimination of President Kennedy on Nov. 22, 1963. In his 1992 book, The Man Who Knew Too Much, Dick Russell wrote the following:

“As I was completing the manuscript of this book, it was suggested that I get in touch with Madeline Brown. Between 1948 and 1969, Brown maintains that she was a mistress of Lyndon B. Johnson. LBJ’s handwriting on numerous letters to Brown has been verified by analysts, and today it is generally accepted that her son Steven, who died of cancer in 1990, was a son of the former president.

“Brown, today [in 1992] 67, came from a wealthy Dallas family, the Duncans, which made its money in real estate and ranching…She decided to go public with what Johnson once imparted to her about the Kennedy assassination…

“Before the assassination, according to Brown, `Lyndon Johnson told me that the Kennedys would never embarrass him again. It was not a threat, but a promise.’ Then, as 1963 passed into history, they were together at a New Year’s Eve party. ` I said, Lyndon, I’ve got to have my mind put at east,’ Brown remembers. `People are saying you are responsible for the assassination, and I’ve got to know.’ Well, he had a terrible temper tantrum, as he often did. Then he told me: IT WAS THE OIL PEOPLE AND THE CIA.’”


So did anyone reading the above quotes note the party list on Nov. 21, 1963, "the night before Camelot's demise", included both RICHARD NIXON, J. EDGAR HOOVER, and H.L. HUNT? What would LBJ be doing at a party filled with Republicans as well as the man who had all the dirt on all the politicians, J. Edgar Hoover? And what was this "8F" group, anyway? According to Wiki, it was a group of OIL MEN in Texas: "Suite 8F helped to coordinate the political activities of other right-wing politicians and businessmen based in the South...." The list contains many luminaries of the oil industry and such corporate behemoths as Brown & Root:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suite_8F_Group

Again, this wasn't the "group" referred to in the Lancer Memo; this was just one more group that would have had an ax to grind against the Kennedys, and was more than likely used by Majestic to rope "Lyin' Lyndon" in. There are quite a few of them, but they ALL lead back to Majestic, which was the one group that could arrange to have fingers pointed at Cuban emigres as well as exercise control over the US Secret Service; remember that Majestic, as the capstone (er, 'keystone' is the operative term I now understand ;) ) agency at the apex of the National Security apparatus constructed in 1947, has the power and authority to commandeer any federal agency, program, operation, etc - and often doing so without them even being aware they are being utilized for a broader purpose than their "need to know" relationship could ever suggest.

It all comes back to Majestic Twelve, whether it's the Scottish Rite masons or the public-faced "NSC 5412 Committee" or the "40 Committee" or as the supra-national organization "Committee of the Majority" it was superceded by that lasted up until the formation of this very GT in 2003. (Excuse me, almost forgot; the York Rite allegedly took over a couple of years ago when Dan and Marcia were supposedly given the keys.)

PhaTz, even though Majestic itself is answerable to the Establishment it serves, it does have the distinction of being the only organization that is allowed 3D interaction with the extraterrestrials engaged in the spiritual warfare that has as its goal the coming soul harvest. Allegedly there are only 2,000 or so (I hear that Dan & Marcia are trying to increase the number from 3,500 to over 5,000....but then again I haven't caught up yet with their latest) operatives that can be truly classified as "Majestic", but in any event, the number is relatively small - though as noted, they increase their numbers for particular actions by expropriating lesser agencies. The real power of course belongs to those whom Majestic serves, and who are often members themselves such as George H.W. Bush, his superintendant subordinate Big Dick Cheney, the Puppetmaster Rothschild himself (the one that's completely 'off the books', no public record existing whatsoever), and the many many bankers and oilmen and blue-blooded capitalists who occupy the top 1% of the power elite on earth. We'll probably never know their names, though I do have a list of the last line-up of the CotM - 33 strong, and including the list of 12 that DB has attested to. (Plus a few alternates ;) )

edit to add: Just finished watching the full 1 hr. 21 mins. interview of Madeleine. A most fascinating inside look at the inside of the Texas power elite, including the "richest man in the world" at the time of the assassination, H.L. Hunt. The last thing she talks about is how the nanny she had employed for 10 years, to take care of her kids (including LBJ's love child), had stepped into the hotel hallway when Lyndon was having an embrace with Madeleine (and then she quickly stepped back in their room), and Lyndon told his mistress Madeleine then to "get rid of her" the next day. She protested and asked why, but even though she didn't do anything, Mack Wallace (LBJ's hitman, who did most of his killings) ended up getting rid of her (Dale, the nanny, that is) within days. Even the interviewer, Robert Gaylon Ross, was shocked and repeated the charge: "the end apparently justifies the means; here was an innocent bystander, who accidentally witnessed an embrace in a hotel hallway, and died for it." Died on the orders of LBJ.

Good god, these people are sickening; they still don't get it, that the ends ARE the means. That may not work in the upper echelons of the power elite, for whom killings are a normal part of life, but that's why they STILL "don't get it", why they STILL maintain the Coverup. They won't learn until they're carted off to a prison planet, IMHO, and even then they may not learn.

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Ah yes, those two upstanding scions of Texas soooo ciiiii ooooo teee, Clint Murchison and H.L. Hunt. :evil

I've always wondered about Nixon being in Dallas that day. Rumor also has it that Papa Bush was there, too. Makes ya go hmmmm, doesn't it?

Read and heard rumors for years that the real reason Watergate went down was because the Dems had UFO evidence and were about to reveal it. I reiterate that those are rumors.

Most everyone here has, of course, heard the rumors that the Nixon "Plumbers" were the "hobos" arrested on the grassy knoll, too. Don't know if that is true or not - lots of folks have tried to debunk that for years.

Then we have Gerald Ford - Nelson Rockefeller's right hand man. Then you have the "Rockefeller" admendment making it possible for the President to appoint a Vice President. Truman basically did a great job in 1947 of blocking Rockefeller (then 35) from the Presidency when Sumner Welles was forced to resign. Rockefeller was Under Secretary of State at the time and only needed to be appointed Sec State to fall right in line with the succession. Nobody ever said ole Harry was stupid, now, did they? :mrgreen:

Add J. Edgar into the mix with Dulles, Nixon, Rockefeller, Murchison, Hunt and, Lordy, ya got a mess on your hands! :doh

As to the Masons - well let's just agree to disagree there. :dunno

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Bluebonnet wrote:
As to the Masons - well let's just agree to disagree there. :dunno


BB, did you have a chance to watch that interview of Madeleine Brown? The full version, that is? I've now watched it 3 times (though I have to admit the 2nd and 3rd times I was multi-tasking). Practically the entire interview is about the party at Clint Murchison's house the night before the assassination, or rather who was there and background info on the individuals. The "great white fathers of Texas", as Madeleine calls them. In addition, Nixon (not a Texan), J. Edgar Hoover and his lover (ahem, "assistant" and co-habitant) were there. Jack Ruby, who apparently was also one of the "great white fathers" was there as well; he was the one everyone went to when they wanted to gamble without risking a raid, or to have someone whipped ($10 - $15) or killed ($25), not to mention prostitution and drugs. The sheriff of Dallas was there as well as Mack Wallace (the killer of Madeleine's nanny, whom Madeleine had ironically run into at a Dallas gun range the day before, practicing his marksmanship).

The reason I quoted your comment about the masons is, I'm not sure what your position is on them. My own position is that the masons generally aren't necessarily "evil", or corrupt, etc, but that those at the top of the masonic orders (the "33rd Degree" and related) are at the heart of the Coverup. I believe I used the word "allegedly" when mentioning the supposed hand-off from the Scottish Rite to the York Rite earlier, but if I didn't, let me stress that I'm not necessarily convinced of that and besides, it doesn't seem as if the issue is all that relevant. Whether it's Skull & Bones, the Freemasons (both Scottish or York Rites), even the Priore de Sion, and all the rest, the secret societies are but umbrella groups in which the power elite meet to exercise power, to make their plans to exploit the People and the Earth for their own self-aggrandizement. It really is that simple, once you strip away the rituals and symbols. Below them you have the entry-level organizations that serve as 'proving grounds', such as the CFR, from which aspiring puppets are drawn, groomed and cultivated.

But I digress; we were talking about the "great white fathers" of Texas (the 'Texas mafia') and their war with the Kennedys and the 'Irish mafia', and their role in the assassination of JFK. My contention is still that these are all but tentacles of the same MAJ-headed octopus, along with the Cuban mafia and the original Sicilian/Italian mafia whose Chicago head was Sam Giancana and who had his own axe to grind with JFK (after having helped stuff enough ballot boxes in the Windy City, he was targeted by RFK's Justice Dep't)...and keep in mind that Carlos Marcello, supposed head of the Mob in New Orleans, was also at that Nov. 21st party at Clint Murchison's, as was Larry Campbell, the black henchman of Teamster's president Jimmy Hoffa. So we have enough players, with coinciding agendas, all very capable and even passionate about removing JFK from power, but we still haven't made the links to those in Majestic who - following a vote in favor of eliminating him - actually put a plan in motion. In fact, it's been alleged that JFK's trip to Miami not too long before the Dallas trip was to be the fateful excursion in which he would meet his demise, but they may not have had another patsy as willing as Oswald was ready to go.

And I'm still trying to get to the bottom of what George Adamski gave to both JFK and Pope John XXIII in 1962 (although I've now learned that his trip to the Vatican occurred in early 1963) and how it ties into the apparitions at Garabandal that same year (and late 1961).

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==== Masonic Hitler Youth Kissinger / Nelson Rockefeller ====

Heinz Alfred Kissinger was born on 27 May 1923 in Furth in central Germany, the son of a rabbi (Washington Observer, 15 April 1971). His parents emigrated to the United States in 1938 and Heinz became Henry. From 1943 to 1945 he worked for US intelligence. Later he taught political science at Harvard University. Kissinger himself was educated by Professor William Yandel Elliott, who adhered to H. G. Well’s crazy ideas.

In 1955, he developed a relationship with Nelson Rockefeller (Frank Capell, Henry Kissinger: Soviet Agent. Cincinnati, 1992, p. 29). The poor Jewish refugee became a powerful figure thanks to the Rockefeller family that began using him as a proxy. In 1956, he was named editor of the influential magazine Foreign Affairs.

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Henry Kissinger is a high-ranking official of the Jewish masonic organization B’nai B’rith. He is also a member of the Bilderberg group and the Trilateral Commission. He belongs to the Swiss Grand Lodge Alpina, the elitist Bohemian Club, and he is a member of Phi Beta Cappa Club, Cosmos Club, Federal City Club, and Century Club.

Kissinger was an adviser to presidents Richard Nixon and George Bush Sr. In the years 1961, 1969 and 1973 he passed the internal security check. The information on him was given by the State Department not by the FBI. In the beginning of his career as Nixon’s adviser, he gained control of the intelligence services in the United States (Frank Capell, Henry Kissinger: Soviet Agent. Cincinnati, 1992, p. 9).

In April 1946, Kissinger started teaching at a school for intelligence agents. During this period he was recruited as a Soviet agent by the KGB, under the codename Bor (Gary Allen, Kissinger: The Secret Side of the Secretary of State. Seal Beach, California, 1976, p. 18).

Kissinger was the architect behind the Christmas bombings of Hanoi and Hai-Phong in 1972. He became secretary of state under President Gerald Ford in 1973. According to Wall Street Journal, Kissinger helped Peter Wallenberg in Sweden illegally to export high technology to the communist Eastern Europe.

Outwardly Kissinger was a liberal. Liberalism is, however, basically a leftist ideology. The Salt Lake City Deseret News reported on 27 March 1970 that behind the designation of Kissinger as national security adviser to President Nixon was Nelson Rockefeller.

It was Henry Kissinger who toppled Richard Nixon by using the Watergate Affair (Gary Allen, The Rockefeller File. Seal Beach, California, 1976, p. 176).

Kissinger received the Nobel Peace Prize in 1973 for having the communists win the Vietnam War.

It was Henry Kissinger who was behind the oil crisis of 1973-1974, and he pushed through his plans at a secret meeting in Stockholm, Sheik Yamani, a former minister for oil of Saudi Arabia revealed in The Observer on 14 January 2001. Kissinger organized a quadrupling of the oil price in November 1973. The meeting Sheik Yamani referred to was the Bilderberg convention in the vicinity of Stockholm in May 1973. This was confirmed in William Engdahl’s book A Century of War: Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order (1993).

In the early 1960s, however, a serious drawback occurred that he had not counted with. A defected communist agent exposed Kissinger as a Soviet spy, codename Bor.

Colonel Michal Goleniewski of the Polish intelligence service had sent a letter under the alias Sniper in March 1959 to the United , States ambassador to Switzerland, and revealed secret information leading to the arrest of SIS officers George Blake and Gordon Lonsdale in England. Both were tried and sentenced as Soviet agents. During Christmas of 1960 Sniper himself defected. He was a relatively high-ranking KGB officer, who exposed many Soviet agents in Great Britain. The information was verified and the spies were arrested. A little later Goleniewski turned over a list of Soviet agents in Sweden, which Swedish intelligence could verify. The Swedish socialist government, however, did not allow the arrest of any Soviet agents, except for one dangerous traitor, called Stig Wennerstrom.

Next in turn were West Germany, Denmark, and France. Again all the information turned out to be correct and Soviet agents were caught. A total of 5000 pages of top-secret material were delivered by Goleniewski, plus 800 pages of Soviet intelligence reports and 160 microfilms. All information was correct.

On 12 January 1961, Goleniewski arrived in the United States. He had extremely important information about a spy at high level and demanded to see President Kennedy, which was denied. Instead he saw the head of the CIA and revealed who the secret Soviet agent was — Harvard professor and national security adviser Henry Kissinger.

The CIA reacted instantly — Goleniewski received 50 000 dollars to keep quiet and was henceforth expelled. Kissinger was such a powerful member of B’nai B’rith that they no longer could touch him. He was allowed to carry on with his harmful activities.

Kissinger had sent all of the most secret information directly to the Soviet Union. This was, however, leaked from CIA and got to the right-wing press. The American Opinion exposed Kissinger secret activities in April 1975 (p. 35) and in March 1976. All this was verified by the historian Ladislav Bitman in his book KGB: Soviet Misinformation (New York, 1985, pp. 54-55).

The Soviet agent Victor Louis openly visited Henry Kissinger in the White House on 13 November 1971 (John Barron, KGB. Tel Aviv, 1978, p. 230).

Anatoli Filatov, who worked for the Foreign Ministry of the Soviet Union, was recruited (lured into a trap of a sexual nature) in the beginning of the 1970s by the CIA in Algeria. Through him the CIA got very valuable secrets from Moscow. At one time they got hold of a copy of a letter from the Soviet ambassador to Washington, Anatoli Dobrynin (actually Gutman). In this letter Kissinger is revealed as a Soviet agent.

The high-ranking freemason David Aaron, who worked for the CIA and at the same time was an adviser to President Jimmy Carter, did all he could to protect his “brother” Kissinger from being exposed. He wanted to punish Filatov for having given information on Kissinger. Through a Romanian diplomat he had Filatov exposed as an American agent. Filatov was arrested in Moscow and summarily executed. It turned into a major scandal in the United States, but Kissinger was once again saved.

The freemason David Aaron betrayed his country to save a highranking masonic brother from being exposed as a foreign agent. The Kissinger case was hushed up. David Aaron was never punished for his hideous crime.

During his time as Secretary of State Henry Kissinger made sure that all known anti-communists were discharged from the State Department (Gary Allen, Kissinger: The Secret Side of the Secretary of State. Seal Beach, California, 1976, p. 129). Kissinger could not tolerate anti-communists, not even as a joke.

On 4 March 1982, it was claimed on the American TV station Channel Eleven that former secretary of state Kissinger was sexually involved with young boys. The human rights activist, Ellen Kaplan, asked Henry Kissinger on the street: “Mr. Kissinger, is it true that you are sleeping with boys at Hotel Carlyle?” Kissinger’s wife Nancy then tried to strangle Ellen Kaplan, who reported the incident to the police and Nancy Kissinger was arrested for attempted homicide.

When the New World Order is implemented, the world will be very different, promised the freemason Henry Kissinger in a statement: “There won’t be so many left, but everything will be better for people.” This is a remarkable humanistic thought.

http://www.wariscrime.com/2009/08/25/articles/the-case-of-kissinger/

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PhaTz, that's very interesting and apparently well-researched, but I don't buy that Heinz was a Communist spy. His entire history has been one in which he has supported right-wing regimes and the monied interests over that of the People, despite some of the claims in the material you quote. We know he played a key role in supporting the overthrow of the Chilean socialist president Allende in order to install the right-wing dictator Pinochet, and by advising Nixon to engage in the bombing of Hanoi he certainly didn't endear himself to any left-wing faction that I'm aware of in that period. Also, his role in the oil embargo of the early 1970s had more to do with him lining both his own pockets as well as those of his benefactor David Rockefeller and the rest of the American power elite than it did the energy self-sufficiency and independence of the American people. From what I gather he was instrumental in assisting the Shah of Iran, and US coziness with that regime resulted of course in the humiliation of the US during Carter's presidency, culminating in Carter's defeat largely attributed to the so-called 'October Surprise' in which Bush Sr. traveled to Paris to make the deal with Khomeini in which the hostages would only be released upon Reagan's victory.

As a key member of Majestic, and probably its longest-serving member, he served the interests of the right wing much more so than any left-wing agenda. These articles you quote are anomalous in the known body of Kissinger biographical literature, which is almost universally condemnatory of his right-wing extremism, though I'll take a closer look at the full context in which they've been made.

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==== Bush Sr. Pedophile / Rockefeller Pedophile / Dulles Pedophile / Kissinger Pedophile - High Mason's = Pedophile ====

JFK Murder Solved

Submitted by David Livingstone on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 09:29

Barry Seal, "the biggest drug smuggler in American history", while working for the CIA, was funneling the immense amount of cocaine of the Iran-Contra Operation right through Mena, Arkansas, under the watch of Bill Clinton. The purpose of the Iran Contra affair was to accumulate funds to secretly finance the Mujahideen, particularly Gulbuddin Hekmetyar, a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, and later bin Laden.

Again, this was the chief strategy of the Neoconservatives. So it ties into the other video I recommended, the Power of Nightmares. The whole thing was headed by George Bush Sr.

Well, it turns out Barry Seal had been recruited at the age of seventeen, along with Lee Oswald, by CIA agent David Ferrie, at a two week summer camp of the Louisiana Civil Air Patrol in 1957. David Ferrie is the fiend and pedophile portrayed by Joe Pecci in Oliver Stone's JFK. (Mad Cow Morning News)

A career U.S. intelligence agent, Ferrie was a participant in the assassination of President Kennedy, and the first focal point of Jim Garrison’s investigation of Kennedy’s murder. The assassination team went by the name of Operation 40, established by Allen Dulles, which played a major role in the Bay of Pigs invasion. The group was presided over by then-Vice President Richard M. Nixon and recruited former Batista-regime intelligence officers and mob henchmen, mercenaries like Frank Sturgis and CIA case officer Howard Hunt, who would later become one of the Watergate burglars. As revealed by John Hankey, in his film JFK II, at a 1975 Senate re-investigation into the case, William Colby, as head of CIA, testified that George Bush Sr. and Hunt headed the Kennedy assassination, but said that “...they weren’t really in charge. They were just taking orders from civilians like Allen Dulles and the Rockefellers.” Colby was then promptly dismissed, and George Bush was appointed to head the CIA in his place. JFK II is also online:

http://www.terrorism-illuminati.com/content/jfk-murder-solved

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It should come as no surprise to those who know that the Pedophile Ritual is of high Masonry Kabalah. It is called the Rite of Typhon. It is also known as Ritual Sex Magic. Majestic... Magician's.... Ritual Majik.... Maji..... Babylon was the birth place of this Majik. It was a curse then and it is a curse today. Albert Pike, wrote Morals and Dogma which specifically point out that Kabalah is the religion of the Masonic order. It is in the book. So you if you tell me it isn't so I will tell you what page to look it up on.

In the first initiation Ritual of the Masonic order you are to say "I Come In Darkness". Innocent that it may sound, it is denying the LIGHT of Jeus Christ. He is the Light of the world. I come in the Light... Not in darkness... I have told you of these things before. The Nazi connection to ritual sex majik is evident from Himmler's writings as wells as Michael Aquino's essays where this high ranking military NSA officer / pedophile went to Germany to re-enact the Babylon working a ritual which Alister Crowley became famous for doing.

I realize Mason's below 33 degree don't know sheet metal from shinola but that is just the way that is. In the book Morals and Dogma Pike specifically says that "the initiate is not to know the rituals of the adepts". I know you think I have tossed a turd in the punch bowl but these are facts written by Masonry's highest authority. If you want to argue this then you should go to someone who has the book and they will choose to tell you ... or not...



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I can't and won't argue with you on the issue of pedophilia, PhaTz, because you're absolutely correct. I wasn't aware of the many details of how it's practiced, nor do I particularly care to because it's extremely dispiriting to read of it. And I wouldn't say you're "throwing a turd in the punch bowl" either, because you're spot-on regarding how central this disease is to the maintenance of the Coverup. It is through pedophilia that many politicians are "bought", with the potential of blackmail hung over their heads. As to the priests; suppression of a healthy sexuality leads to an unhealthy one.

What is also true is a secret that Wilhelm Reich discovered; orgasms are indeed healthy for us. Knowing this, and knowing also that inversions of good things ('mirroring' them in an inverted state, such as Dante illustrating one of the circles of hell where greedy and corrupt priests are hung upside down with fire on their feet in an inversion of the baptismal rite) become rituals for the elitist secret societies, we can see how "ritual sex magick" became so popular with the Nazis and later the American power elite. Orgasms are innately rejuvenating; they can be used for good or for ill. Something also worth mentioning here is the production of the hormone oxytocin during orgasm; the "pair-bonding" or "love hormone". It's due to this fact that females often find themselves 'in love with' utter cads and louts; were it not for the fact such male specimens could generate orgasms in their female lovers, they wouldn't be asked back for a second or third helping, and thus thousands of melancholic love poems by adolescent females might never have been written. Some say the reverse is true - that males also experience something similar - but the data in that case isn't as conclusive. Yet.

But again, I digress. As I said, I totally agree with your pinpointing pedophilia as the prime culprit in cementing and furthering the exploitative conspiracies that have done such damage to the collective human psyche, PhaTz. Under normal conditions, we'd probably launch into a discussion of Cathy O'Brien's "Trance Formation of America" but suffice it to say, she claims to be a victim of MK-ULTRA, which as we just learned (or were reminded about) was Allen Dulles's baby. And with that we're back full-circle to the alleged MJ-1 who carried out the will of the majority vote of Majestic to have JFK eliminated.

Slowly, carefully, thoughtfully we pick our way towards the Light.

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Allen Dulles Chief Architect of U.S.-Nazi business and spy networks

spy at the U.S. embassy in Bern, Switzerland, collecting political data for the State Department on Germany and the Austro-Hungarian empire (1916-1918)
member, U.S. staff, Versailles Peace Conference (1918-1922)
head, State Department's Near East Affairs division (1922-27)
worked with brother John Foster Dulles, as lawyer and international finance specialist for Sullivan & Cromwell, a Wall Street law firm in New York (1927-1941). While there, he worked with top Nazi industrialists and played a pivotal role in promoting U.S.-Nazi corporate relations. Allen worked with Prescott Bush (grandfather of President George Walker Bush) and George Herbert Walker (Prescott's father-in-law) who ran Union Banking Corporation for the Nazis. Allen was legal counsel for Standard Oil and the Nazi's I. G. Farben, co-owned by the Rockefellers. (Other U.S. millionaires allied to the Nazis were: William Randolph Hearst Sr., Andrew Mellon, Irenee du Pont, Henry Ford and J.P. Morgan. Morgan, du Pont and others were even involved in a Fascist plot to overthrow the U.S. government in 1934.)
President Roosevelt, realizing Dulles was a traitor, had his New York "Office of Coordinator of Information" wiretapped (1941-42). Some Dulles-linked firms, like Bush's Union Banking Corp., were seized under the Trading with the Enemy Act (1942)
Berne station chief, Office of Strategic Services (1942-1945). Roosevelt's plan to charge Dulles with treason failed when Dulles was warned and covered his tracks (1944). Roosevelt's plan died with him (1945).
as OSS station chief in Berlin, Dulles negotiated the agreement with General Reinhard Gehlen to establish a Nazi spy network within the OSS (1945).
Dulles helped in the development of the CIA (1947), became its deputy director (1951) and its director (1953-1961). He oversaw numerous covert operations, such as election rigging in Italy (1948), coups in Iran (1953) and Guatemala (1954) and many other notorious operations described in this issue.
When Union Banking Corp. was liquidated, Prescott Bush and George Herbert Walker received $1.5 million (1951)
was fired by President Kennedy after the failed invasion of Cuba at the Bay of Pigs (1961)
as a member of the Warren Commission, he promoted the theory that a "lone gunman" assassinated John F. Kennedy (1963).

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So What Did the Aliens Do......In 1962?

I know many of you may just skip over all this regurgitated material from half a century ago, but I think something big was happening then and I'm still trying to get to the bottom of it. That was the peak year (actually it could be said 1963 was the peak - and last - year) of Camelot, and since then things have gone downhill on so many fronts, as some of us have noted in the past several days. In fact, as I collect the evidence, it seems that 1963 was the more important year, but in truth it was the entire period of 1960-1963 (the duration of Camelot) that is in question.

We know that George Adamski, who has several affidavits to back up his encounters with alien spacecraft, delivered a package from "space people" he met during one of those encounters to an expectant Pope John XXIII on June 1st, 1963 just 2 days before the pope's death. The only thing I've been able to discover about this 'package' is from the Wiki on Adamski:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Adamski wrote:
Adamski, at the request of the extraterrestrials he was allegedly in contact with, met with the Pope in order to request a "final agreement" from him because of his decision not to communicate directly with any extraterrestrials, and also to offer him a liquid substance in order to save him from gastric enteritis that he suffered from, which would later become acute peritonitis.


While that may or may not be true, other accounts of the same meeting indicate that Adamski was eagerly received by the Pope, who said he had "been waiting for it" [whatever was in the package]. Now what would have prompted even such a thing as a liquid medicine to help with an earthly ailment? Was it given to hopefully 'encourage' the pope to come clean about the Third Secret of Fatima, finally? Because that Secret was supposed to be released in 1960, 3 years prior, and the pope had refused to do so. Even his opening of the Vatican II council was characterized by derision towards "doom prophets", a clear reference to the Third Secret.

It was also in this time period that JFK was given a message by Adamski, an invitation to visit one of the alien "mother ships" at Hot Springs, California. From Lou Zinsstag, Adamski's Swiss representative and author of the book "George Adamski: The Untold Story", we read:

Lou Zinsstag wrote:
"I still remember his White House story. He told me that he had been entrusted with a written invitation for President Kennedy to visit one of the space people’s huge mother ships at a secret airbase in Desert Hot Springs, California, for few days. In order to keep this visit absolutely secret, Adamski was to take the invitation directly to the White House through a side door. Still glowing with excitement and smiling happily, he explained how the row of cars in which his taxi was traveling had to stop because of a red light just in front of this particular door where a man he knew - a spaceman, he said - was standing ready to let him in. Adamski later learned that Kennedy had spent several hours at the airbase after having canceled an important trip to New York, and that he had a long talk with the ships crew, but that he had not been invited for a flight."


From http://www.presidentialufo.com/john-f-k ... -f-kennedy
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President Kennedy, like President Eisenhower, had stories that circulated about him going for a secret meeting to meet with the aliens. Timothy Cooper, a UFO researcher, whose father was stationed at Holloman Air Force Base, played an active role in the investigation of a rash of UFO sightings in the White Sands military missile range in the late 1940s.

Cooper claimed that a reliable source had informed him that JFK "did fly out to an air force base to personally watch an unidentified bogie track from an aircraft under tight security which got no press coverage sometime in 1962." Further Cooper stated that he had been told that Kennedy went to WSMR/Holloman AFB for a tour and a UFO briefing during his administration.


If these accounts are true, and since we have more than one we have a reasonable expectation that there is probably some fire at the heart of all the smoke, then we know that JFK wasn't simply making a request to NASA out of a mild curiousity; he already knew about extraterrestrial interaction on some level.

To add to the evidence, here's a couple more snips from the same website; I've heard of the second one before, but the first one is news to me:

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As with many other U.S. presidents, there was a report that Kennedy had sighted a UFO. The event occurred in 1963, while boating off Hyannisport on Cape Cod. The object was "disc-shaped, about 60 feet in diameter, with a gray top, and shiny bottom." It hovered above the water for 40 seconds, emitting a low pitched humming sound. Then it flew straight up in the air and was gone. Kennedy swore those present to keep the incident secret.

A former steward aboard Air Force One Bill Holden, was on board Air Force One with Kennedy flying to Europe in the summer of 1963. A UFO convention being held in Bonn Germany that month prompted Holden to bring up the subject of UFOs with the President.

Holden asked "What do you think about UFOs, Mr. President?" According to the account Kennedy became quite serious, thinking for a moment. "I'd like to tell the public about the UFO situation" he stated, "but my hands are tied." ( Marrs)


Also from the same article, the following connection is made between JFK and Arthur "Art" Lundahl, who is described thusly:

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One constant rumor that has circulated for many years is that the main source of UFO briefings given to President Kennedy were done by Arthur C. "Art" Lundahl. Lundahl was a high-ranking CIA employee described in White House papers as "perhaps the most distinguished authority in the United States on photographic intelligence...the top photographic intelligence officer in the United States government and, as such, he has been involved in the most important photographic problems affecting national security..."

.....

Eight days after Gary Powers and his U-2 were shot down by the U.S.S.R. Eisenhower, trying to justify his actions, sent Lundahl into the Senate to provide a classified briefing about the accomplishments of the U-2 program. When Lundahl was finished, he so impressed his audience he was given a standing ovation. Allen Dulles, Eisenhower’s DCI, was so impressed his lighted pipe had fallen from his mouth into his lap. Lundahl later stated that during the extended applause he could see Allen’s jacket smoldering.

{I KNEW we'd see Allen Dulles rear his ugly mug up somewhere in this vicinity.}

.....

In a visit to Arthur Lundahl’s home in Bethesda, Maryland, Todd Zechel {founder of Citizens Against UFO Secrecy} reported that 80% of the massive library were books on UFOs.

"Rather than the shelves being loaded with technical literature pertaining to photogrametry and geology - ostensibly, Lundahl’s main interest - at least 80% of the collection were books about UFOs. Lundahl had nearly every UFO book ever published. To Zechel this seemed to be an indication the CIA official took the subject very seriously- and perhaps that the Agency took it seriously as well."


And finally, a last (and secret) encounter between Adamski and JFK allegedly occurred in May 1963, at the Willard Hotel in Washington, DC, the same hotel where Martin Luther King penned his "I Have A Dream" speech. I'm still working on ferreting out the details of what occurred at that meeting, if indeed it occurred.

So again I ask, what were the aliens doing in 1962 and 1963? They make contact with an earthling, one George Adamski (they'd actually done that years prior), who they then instruct to go meet with the President of the United States (which he supposedly does, courtesy of an alien doorman at the White House - which at that time was much more plausible than it would be today) to extend an invitation to him to go to visit one of their "mother ships" out in California. They give this same earthling a package to deliver to the Pope, leader of the world's largest 'christian' religion; this package may or may not have contained a healing substance, but if it did, the substance certainly didn't work as the pope (who was revived long enough to receive Adamski but then lapsed back into his diseased state) died 2 days later.

Could it have been that the aliens made the most 'public' effort possible to instigate personal contact with these 2 world leaders? One the leader of the Earth's most powerful country, and the other the leader of the Earth's richest (and some would say most repressive and corrupt) religious denomination? Was the outreach to JFK simply to advise him on how to handle the upcoming Cuban Missile Crisis later that year of 1962? I doubt it, unless that would have been their "trump card" to validate their existence and hence their authority?

And what of the apparitions of Garabandal, Spain? Were they but a reminder for the Church to do that which they had refused to do the year prior? (The first message there occurred in Oct. 1961, a year after the 1960 deadline for releasing the Third Secret of Fatima and a full year before the opening of the Vatican II ecumenical council.) The key "second message" of Garabandal was to warn of the "perdition" the priests of the church faced, due to their pederasty - the facts of which came to full flower only in our own era.

If anyone else has anything new on aliens and 1962, I'd like to hear it, and if anyone has a theory about why these things all seemed to occur during the existence of Camelot, I'd like to hear that too.

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(Note: The below is a brief introduction about a contactee allegedly having first contacts with the Zeta people. It was, more or less, their first attempt's to share openly to the public via Hermann. Boy, the interference that activated full swing in his life was really a disheartening experience to read. The reason I'm posting this is because at one point during Hermann's experience, he was contacted by a panicked phone caller warning him about the alternate 3 scenario being real. The caller stated distressfully the Government discovered air on mars in 1963, and apparently there was some merit to the batch consignment discussion's. The caller said what the elite feared most was the aliens were aware of everything they were doing. All the atrocity and human life violation's protecting their activities of that time...Dex)

WILLIAM J. HERMANN

William J. Hermann, flying saucer contactee and channeler, emerged out of obscurity in 1978 after claiming to have had a series of sightings of a UFO over Charleston, South Carolina, beginning in November of 1977. On January 22, 1978, he was able to take nine photographs of the object. Two months later as he was out looking for more UFOs, the disc he had sighted earlier reappeared and came toward him. According to Hermann, it sent out a light beam that paralyzed him. He lost consciousness and awakened three hours later 15 miles away. He watched the UFO depart.

He called the police, who took him home. Several days later, after suffering from insomnia and general nervousness and unrest, he submitted to hypnosis under the guidance of James A. Harder, a UFO researcher associated with the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization, one of the prominent UFO research groups of the time. Under the hypnosis, he talked of being aboard the UFO. He was on an examination table being looked at by three humanoid creatures. They had large hairless heads, oversized eyes, pale skin, and red clothing.

One of the three spoke to him, but his mouth did not appear to move. He was given a brief tour of the spacecraft and then lost consciousness. He had learned that the beings were from Zeta Reticuli. They had been observing Earth for half a century. They were concerned about humanity's tendencies toward war and warned that our violent natures would destroy human civilization.

In the weeks following the hypnosis session, Hermann had other sightings and began channeling messages from the people who had abducted him. He also produced a metal bar that he claimed came from the aliens. It proved to be made of lead and antimony, similar in content to the material in an automobile battery. In May of 1979 Hermann claimed to have had a final contact with the saucer beings, who took him for a ride.

As his story was publicized, Hermann contacted Wendelle Stevens, a publisher of UFO contactee material, who coauthored a more complete account of his story, which was published in 1981. The volume circulated in the contactee subculture but was generally dismissed by ufologists as lacking any collaboration.


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The recent posts about the Kennedy assassination have been quite interesting. I knew some of it, but I learned a lot of new info reading the latest postings.

I know so much less than many of the posters here, but I am paying attention, trying to learn and discern.

The Comet Elenin material coming out of GLP and ATS is interesting. Some of it is suggesting that Elenin is a comet, but PX is accompanying it. Unlikely, I guess. The main argument posed by the skeptics against the idea that a brown dwarf could be travelling inside our solar system is that it would effect the orbits of the planets, and it hasn't or the many astronomers, professional and amateur, would notice. I don't know if this is a reasonable conclusion.

The Sun zapping our electrical grid is also interesting because it can't be denied as possible by the skeptics. But is it a predictable scenario?

Maybe everything will remain somewhat similar to the way it currently is. Or maybe not.

I've thought about whether I would make a big effort to survive if the SHTF. If there was something as devastating as a pole shift, where a significant portion of the world's population exited the physical plane, would the new world be a place that I would be able to exist in?

I'm getting old, I have a chronically sore hip, I live alone, and I am unwilling to procure and use a gun. I'm also a vegetarian, so eating hunted meat isn't an option for me.

So if the big Changes actually occur, I will just sit back on my deck chair and watch in amazement. And I will not forget that this physical incarnation is not the norm when it comes to our long-term existance.


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Something Paranormal is happening to me



Can someone offer some insight?

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Deadline: 10 years. Destination: Mars.

Apr 25, 2011 6:13am

US company SpaceX hopes to put an astronaut on Mars within 10 to 20 years, the head of the firm says.

"We'll probably put a first man in space in about three years," Elon Musk told the Wall Street Journal.

"We're going all the way to Mars, I think ... best case 10 years, worst case 15 to 20 years.''

SpaceX is one of the two leading private space companies in the US and has won $75 million from the US space agency NASA to help its pursuit of developing a spacecraft to replace the space shuttle.

The California-based company last year completed its first successful test of an unmanned space capsule into orbit and back.

"Our goal is to facilitate the transfer of people and cargo to other planets, and then it will be up to people if they want to go," said Mr Musk, who also runs the Tesla company which develops electric cars.

The US space shuttle program is winding down later this year with final flights of Endeavour set for next week and Atlantis in June, ending an era of American spaceflight that began with the first space shuttle mission in 1981.

When the shuttle program ends, the US hopes private industry will be able to fill the gap by creating the next generation of spacecraft to transport astronauts into space.

"A future where humanity is out there exploring stars is an incredibly exciting future, and inspiring, and that's what we're trying to help make happen," he added in the interview.

Earlier this month SpaceX unveiled what Musk has called the world's most powerful rocket, the Falcon Heavy, which will have its first demonstration flight at the end of 2012.

The launcher is designed to lift into orbit satellites or spacecraft weighing more than 53 metric tons, or 117,000 pounds - more than twice the capacity of the Space Shuttle or Delta IV Heavy launcher.

SpaceX, short for Space Exploration Technologies Corporation, is one of two private companies that NASA has contracted to transport cargo to the International Space Station.

Mr Musk, a South African who made his fortune in the internet, created SpaceX in 2002.

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The Comet Elenin material coming out of GLP and ATS is interesting. Some of it is suggesting that Elenin is a comet, but PX is accompanying it. Unlikely, I guess. The main argument posed by the skeptics against the idea that a brown dwarf could be travelling inside our solar system is that it would effect the orbits of the planets, and it hasn't or the many astronomers, professional and amateur, would notice. I don't know if this is a reasonable conclusion.


midnight, even if the many professional astronomers would notice, or rather acknowledge what many of them already know privately, it's doubtful we'd hear the full truth. The reason is simple: virtually all observatories are controlled financially by the Establishment, either through various foundations or outright government grants, and even the Vatican's observatory is under the control of the Holy See, which also has a vested interest in maintaining a Coverup (if, indeed, the brown dwarf was drawing inexorably closer as alleged). The proponents of the party line "if the authorities aren't saying anything, why should we" rarely seem to acknoweldge the show-stopping factoid that all NASA employees (and that would include vast numbers of astronomers) are required to sign the National Security Oath, which is no mere paper-signing....one has to attend a 2-week course at Ft. Meade and be made to watch gruesome films of grisly deaths of those poor souls who attempted to break their Oath before they can sign it. I thought I'd post the actual text of said Oath but lo and behold, just now while googling it, the very very first entry (which does NOT include the oath, and neither do most of the other entries on the first page so far) has in it's snip:

dr dan burisch

I had to stop and take a screen shot so you all know I'm not making this up; furthermore, if you click on that link, you get an Error 404 - Page Not Found. And to make matters even more eery, the NINTH entry under the search string "national security oath" is a link to Project Spook-a-lot's DB interview of 2007. Hmmmmmm........ :hmm

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