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Post Re: Andrew D Basiago index
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Uncle John here: Here is an easy directory to listen to Andrew D Basiago:

01: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwE8m50sbWk
02: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZBxSVoSIuM
03: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnzwLvqhi-o
04: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbEFMa0AFfg
05: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qobG8x0-5os
06: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0-HOIgcr7E
07: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHIH8YLw9QE
08: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm3VAS_T3bM
09: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXWLPCA8rvU
10: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olVWQ1Iu-sk
11: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwOz9VvzHAU
12: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cASH3BBuM9c
13: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcHb_EcKkCg
14: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPF2PFmwuuo
15: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EExFykfkTIE
16: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLpK1ycTjv0
17: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eFIAck8nsk
18: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99sycNu0gio
19: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI5nrLc7a8Q
20: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQskUx20MeM
21: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQskUx20MeM
22: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdRTvHoN7Vk
23: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zltC9WqUoo8
24: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqao4k-93nI
25: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXKDvKbwFJw
26: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu5WRtnrCs4
27: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQbjaDmyG_E
28: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WL1QzCxS34
29: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKRYtc-lN7I
30: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTnGHxt1m2U
31: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p6_qNzj2PQ
32: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQUfPYMgA4k
33: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YmB_X370JQ
34: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddqIIc8ftfc
35: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_g2kEeWG8w
36: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNkBY9UWmGY
37: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQUzvtHPXeA
38: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYHT8VnKzyM
39: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7Soeea3mnU

Christ, was Mystic_Jess talking to Mr Basiago virtually all week?? Thanks for posting all those links, UJ. I'm on part 11 at the moment.

Basiago's a very articulate chap -- he sounds a bit like Stanton Friedman, only he speaks a lot faster -- with an incredible story to tell, and like Burisch, gives us quite a lot of the nitty-gritty that is severely lacking in quite a few whistle-blowers. Time travel rears its head again then, only this time it's humans travelling forwards in time to Mars, courtesy of the US Defence department...

Check out Basiago's paper: "The Discovery of Life on Mars," at:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/9861830/Andre ... e-on-Mars-

In this paper, Basiago is saying that Mars has been harbouring life for a very long time, in the form of bipedal hominids. One type that predominates are humanoids with "bald bulbous heads"(very similar to your pics, Shady) :wink:

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http://www.ufocasebook.com/2009c/laoct6.html

Contrail and Unknown Object Photographed over Los Angeles, 2006


Published: 10:41 AM 8/31/2009

Los Angeles, CA - October, 2006

While taking images of persistent contrails (chemtrails) over the Los Angeles basin in October, 2006, I captured these two photographs of a very anomalous object producing a trail that essentially spanned the entire western sky.

Images © Freeland

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It's exactly the same translucent shape as the object that was caught spurting out an emission trail last year in the Netherlands and in Colorado recently (picture below). Hopefully these type of ringed/disk-shaped objects should be turning up around the world in larger numbers during chemtrail ops and being photographed more in future.

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More at: http://www.carnicom.com/anomalies1.htm


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Quantum Access Teleportation.. Turn matter inside out.. It becomes a wave, you transmit it over long distances, you flip the state back, and viola.. Its music again..

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v3 ... 052a0.html

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Thank you UJ, Shady and mjc... for posting his paper so I can read his information.

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In a way having a thriving Mars base or base inhabited with a ET makes perfect sense.

Think of it in terms of a Hunters Duck Blind.

You’re an alien civilization interested and studying humanity and its development.

Do you invest countless resources, time and effort sending a warp capable ship 30-45 light years (that’s 30-45 years of life for your ship occupants to waste on a one way trip) to observe Earth and Humanity for what a year at best?

Or Do you set up a Duck Blind in the Solar System close by, a base or colony and observed humanity from there as you go along with your own business in the area? Sending out scout craft from that Duck Blind to earth and lets say using the dark side of Mars as your jumping off point for your Mother Craft going off into deep Space

Humans finding you there on Mars? Not a chance. Humans haven’t left their planet even for a trip to their moon in 40 years and their robotic craft (if they get to close) can always have a electrical problem or end up destroyed on impact.

A Duck Blind On Mars. Either a Cloaked Colony or Base makes perfect sense.


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OK, three votes of confidence and I'm in, --starting #1 now...

Selene wrote:
UJ, you said:

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"Uncle John here: Life just changed for me. Let me introduce to the Golden Thread the name Andrew D Basiago.

His inside story will quickly replace dan's inside story as the best whistle blower story yet. ROTFLMAO

For six hours of a wonderful interview by Jessica Mystic start here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwE8m50sbWk

.....

You will not be disappointed except of course perhaps marci.


Woweee woweee zoweee. Holy friggin' moley.

I'm listening to this now: blockbuster for sure. What a bombshell. Highly credible whistleblower supports everything that Arthur Neumann ('Henry Deacon') and David Wilcock have been saying about Mars and human life there.

Everything: U.S. Military settlements on Mars, the "jumproom to Mars", ancient civilizations, growing up in the CIA ... whew.

So, in fairness to Marci, maybe no one ever did tell them about this....

Great way to spend the long weekend - Must listening, friends.

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Post Re: fairy rings laying down trails
These type of photographs a bit worry me..

In the Book "The Gods of Eden" by William Bramley he has a whole chapter devoted to Middle Ages Black Death/Pleauge.

The reports from towns and villages at the time reported VERY much the same phenemona we have today with the chemtrails, as breaking out shortly before and during the "The Plague". The Black Death wiped out 1/3 of Europes and Indeed the worlds population. According to reports the "Vaporous Trails" had "disks" at the head of them. Which found their way into Middle Ages Art.

Bramley maintians that the Plague was a "Culling" operation by ET.


We have the "Same" concern for human over-population coming from inside sources on Aliens.

One needs to read Open Mind's Thread with Supposed Source A and the Conformers request that humanity reduce its population down to 500 million.. As a example..

Could infact the Chemtails be new "Culling" and indeed what is that craft doing there??


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mjc wrote:
Shady Groves wrote:
Quote:
http://www.ufocasebook.com/2009c/laoct6.html

Contrail and Unknown Object Photographed over Los Angeles, 2006


Published: 10:41 AM 8/31/2009

Los Angeles, CA - October, 2006

While taking images of persistent contrails (chemtrails) over the Los Angeles basin in October, 2006, I captured these two photographs of a very anomalous object producing a trail that essentially spanned the entire western sky.

Images © Freeland

Image

Image


It's exactly the same translucent shape as the object that was caught spurting out an emission trail last year in the Netherlands and in Colorado recently (picture below). Hopefully these type of ringed/disk-shaped objects should be turning up around the world in larger numbers during chemtrail ops and being photographed more in future.

Image

More at: http://www.carnicom.com/anomalies1.htm


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I must commend the Japanese clearly out of the box thinking! Wireless Power from space.. down to Robotic 'Comfort Girls in School Uniforms" for Hotels of the future.. hehehe

Clearly the Japanese have some wild ideas about the future and actually making strides in bringging it into reality.

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Japan Wants to Power 300,000 Homes With Wireless Energy From Space

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Japan's Wireless, Power-Generating, Solar Satellite Inhabitat


Published on 09-04-2009
http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2 ... ower-space

Source: PopSci
Japan's Wireless, Power-Generating, Solar Satellite Inhabitat

Japan has serious plans to send a solar-panel-equipped satellite into space that could wirelessly beam a gigawatt-strong stream of power down to earth and power nearly 300,000 homes.

The satellite will have a surface area of four square kilometers, and transmit power via microwave to a base station on Earth. Putting solar panels in space bypasses many of the difficulties of installing them on Earth: in orbit, there are no cloudy days, very few zoning laws, and the cold ambient temperature is ideal.

A small test model is scheduled for launch in 2015. To iron out all the kinks and get a fully functional system set up is estimated to take three decades. A major kink, presumably, is coping with the possible dangers when a 1-gigawatt microwave beam aimed at a small spot on Earth misses its target. [Shady Notes: I should say so! Can you say Crispy Critter! Bye Bye a section of Japan...lol]

The $21 billion project just received major backing from Mitsubishi and designer IHI (in addition to research teams from 14 other countries).

[via Bloomberg via Inhabitat]


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A H1N1 Pandemic: Iowa Contemplates "Forced Confinement" in a "Quarantine Facility"

By Michel Chossudovsky

Global Research, September 4, 2009

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... leId=15064

Iowa public health officials have acknowledged the existence of a blank template entitled FACILITY QUARANTINE ORDER in the case of a Novel Influenza A H1N1. The official press release states, however, that there is no draft or text of a "Quarantine Order" by the Iowa Department of Public Health.

Reported by the Iowa Independent:

"A quarantine template created by the Iowa Department of Public Health and accessible through the Centers for Disease Control Web site should not be of great concern, according to a press release from health department officials. 'IDPH wants to make it clear that Iowa has not issued any isolation and quarantine orders for novel influenza A (H1N1), and has no plans to issue any this fall,' officials wrote in the press release. See Health officials: Iowa quarantine document not cause for concern, Iowa Independent, Sept 1, 2009‎

The IDPH suggests in this regard that the drafting of public health templates is a routine undertaking, while also confirming that "in preparation for public health emergencies,” ...“isolation and quarantine orders are only very rarely used in very specific situations.” (emphasis added).

The last statement of the IDPH is notoriously ambiguous: If indeed isolation and quarantine orders are rarely used, why then was a template prepared which explicitly contemplates an ORDER pertaining to a QUARANTINE FACILITY? Moreover, the template was issued on May 1st, at the very outset of the H1N1 swine flu crisis in Mexico, barely two days after the WHO declared a level 5 pandemic advisory on April 29th.

Are we playing on words? The template already contains the essential features of a formal QUARANTINE ORDER, which suggests that issue of Quarantine procedures had been contemplated internally within the Iowa Department of Public Health, leading to the formulation of the blank template, which contains all the essential ingredients of a ORDER.

The issue, therefore, is not whether an order has been activated. The issue is 1) the State of Iowa has contemplated a policy of forced confinement, 2) at some future date, in the next few months, the blank template entitled FACILITY QUARANTINE ORDER could be activated with a view to actually implementing the quarantine of US citizens.

Also of significance is the fact that this template entitled FACILITY QUARANTINE ORDER was published on the website of the Centre for Disease control (CDC), which is the main federal agency responsible for H1N1 pandemic preparedness in coordination with State and municipal governments, as well as in liaison with the WHO.

There are two quarantine documents on the CDC's website. The first refers to QUARANTINE HOME, the second to FACILITY QUARANTINE FACILITY. (pdf) (Click to access the CDC page. The latter document envisages quite explicitly forced confinement in the case of the H1N1 swine flu:

"The Department has determined that it is necessary to quarantine your movement to a specific facility to prevent further spread of this disease. The Department has determined that quarantine in your home and other less restrictive alternatives are not acceptable because [insert the reason home quarantine is not acceptable, the person violated a previously issued home quarantine order, the person does not have an appropriate home setting conducive to home quarantine, etc.] The Department is therefore ordering you to comply with the following provisions during the entire period of quarantine:

1. Terms of confinement. You are ordered to remain at the quarantine facility, _____________________ [insert name and address of facility], from ___________ to ____________ [insert dates of quarantine].

....

4. Legal authority. This order is issued pursuant to the legal authority contained at Iowa Code chapters 135, 139A and 641 Iowa Administrative Code chapter 1, a copy of which is labeled Attachment B and is attached to this order for your review. The Department shall comply with the principles for quarantine contained in subrule 1.9(3) of this attachment when issuing and implementing this order.

5. Ensuring compliance. In order to ensure that you strictly comply with this Quarantine Order the Department or persons authorized by the Department may regularly inspect the quarantine facility.

6. Violations of order. If you fail to comply with this Quarantine Order you may be ordered to be quarantined in a more restrictive facility. In addition, failure to comply with this order is a simple misdemeanor for which you may be arrested, fined, and imprisoned."

This is an official document of the Iowa State government. If it were a preliminary or internal draft, it would not have been published by the Atlanta Centre for Disease Control.

The full text of the controversial Iowa Template is indicated below:

BEFORE THE IOWA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH

DIRECTED TO: [insert full name and address of subject of order]

[insert case #]

FACILITY QUARANTINE ORDER

The Iowa Department of Public Health (Department) has determined that you have had contact with a person with Novel Influenza A H1N1. Novel Influenza A H1N1 is a disease which is spread from person to person and is associated with fever (greater than 100.0 F), cough, sore throat, rhinorrhea (runny nose), nasal congestion, body aches, headache, chills and fatigue. Novel Influenza A H1N1 presents a risk of serious harm to public health and if it spreads in the community severe public health consequences may result.

The Department has determined that it is necessary to quarantine your movement to a specific facility to prevent further spread of this disease. The Department has determined that quarantine in your home and other less restrictive alternatives are not acceptable because [insert the reason home quarantine is not acceptable, the person violated a previously issued home quarantine order, the person does not have an appropriate home setting conducive to home quarantine, etc.] The Department is therefore ordering you to comply with the following provisions during the entire period of quarantine:

1. Terms of confinement. You are ordered to remain at the quarantine facility, _____________________ [insert name and address of facility], from ___________ to ____________ [insert dates of quarantine].

2. Requirements during confinement. During the period of quarantine:

a. You must not leave the quarantine facility at any time unless you have received prior written authorization from the Department to do so.
b. You must not come into contact with anyone except the following persons:
(i) other persons who are also under similar quarantine order at the quarantine facility;
(ii) authorized healthcare providers and other staff at the quarantine facility;
(iii) authorized Department staff or other persons acting on behalf of the Department; and
(iv) such other persons as are authorized by the Department.
c. Your daily needs, including food, shelter, and medical care, will be provided for you during the period of quarantine at the quarantine facility. You should bring clothing, toiletries, and other personal items with you to the quarantine facility. You will have limited access to a telephone at the quarantine facility. You may bring your cell phone with you should you desire to have greater access to a means of communication.
d. You should inform your employer that you are under quarantine order and are not authorized to physically come to the work place, although you may work from the facility via electronic or other means if appropriate. You should be aware that Iowa law prohibits an employer from firing, demoting, or otherwise discriminating against an employee due to the compliance of an employee with a quarantine order issued by the Department. (Iowa Code Section 139A.13A)

3. Information about Novel Influenza A H1N1. You should review the information contained at Attachment A for information about Novel Influenza A H1N1. You should refer to information provided at the quarantine facility to address specific concerns and questions you have about Novel Influenza A H1N1. In order to find out more information about Novel Influenza A H1N1 and its symptoms and spread, you may also access the Department’s web-page at www.idph.state.ia.us. If you do not have access to the internet from the quarantine facility, you may contact the Department at 1-800-362-2736.

4. Legal authority. This order is issued pursuant to the legal authority contained at Iowa Code chapters 135, 139A and 641 Iowa Administrative Code chapter 1, a copy of which is labeled Attachment B and is attached to this order for your review. The Department shall comply with the principles for quarantine contained in subrule 1.9(3) of this attachment when issuing and implementing this order.

5. Ensuring compliance. In order to ensure that you strictly comply with this Quarantine Order the Department or persons authorized by the Department may regularly inspect the quarantine facility.

6. Violations of order. If you fail to comply with this Quarantine Order you may be ordered to be quarantined in a more restrictive facility. In addition, failure to comply with this order is a simple misdemeanor for which you may be arrested, fined, and imprisoned.

7. Your rights B appeal rights. While under quarantine you have the rights as described in subrule 1.9(8) of Attachment B. In addition, you have the right to appeal this order pursuant to subrule 1.9(7) of Attachment B.

(signed & dated)
DIRECTOR or MEDICAL DIRECTOR
IOWA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH
Lucas State Office Building
Des Moines, IA 50319

Attachments to this Order:
Attachment A — Facts About Novel Influenza A H1N1
Attachment B — 641 Iowa Administrative Code chapter 1


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Obama Administration's New Quarantine Regulations

by Josh Gerstein

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... leId=15068

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The Obama administration is quietly dusting off an effort to impose new federal quarantine regulations, which were vigorously resisted by civil liberties organizations and the airline industry when the rules were first proposed by the Bush administration nearly four years ago.

White House officials aren’t saying what their rules might ultimately require. But the previous administration proposed giving the federal government the authority to order a “provisional quarantine” of three business days — or up to six calendar days — for those suspected of having swine flu or other illnesses listed in a presidential executive order.

The Bush-era proposal would also have required airlines and cruise lines to store more information about domestic and international passengers, such as e-mail addresses, traveling companions and return flight information. The information would be subject to review by federal officials in a health emergency, though it would be voluntary for passengers to provide the data.

Opponents of the Bush administration’s efforts to enforce the new guidelines insist that they still are a mistake. “It’s not really going to help,” said Wendy Mariner, a professor of law and public health at Boston University. “The proposals to limit liberty represent a dangerous precedent to constitutional theory, particularly when there’s almost no evidence it will matter. ... It wouldn’t surprise me if they try to sneak this past in August, when people are away.”

The White House’s Office of Management and Budget has set a September target date to complete the first major overhaul of the quarantine regulations in about three decades. That would have at least some of the rules in place if swine flu returns with a vengeance later this year, though officials are reluctant to make that link publicly.

“It’s important to public health to move forward with the regulations,” said Christine Pearson, a spokeswoman for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. “We need to update our quarantine regulations, and this final rule is an important step.”

Pearson said CDC had made “changes where appropriate” to the 2005 proposals, but she did not specify those adjustments.

An OMB spokesman, Tom Gavin, confirmed the rules submitted by the CDC in June were in “an interagency review process.”

Civil liberties groups and some public health experts question the value of the effort and not just on privacy grounds — they also contend that mandatory quarantine is unlikely to be an effective tool to contain swine flu or other diseases in the modern era.

“It doesn’t surprise me that when swine flu or any other epidemic is featured prominently in the news, we see a return to quarantine and other public health regulations,” said Christopher Calabrese of the American Civil Liberties Union, which sharply criticized the Bush-era proposal as too heavy-handed. “The enemy here isn’t the American people or sick people. It’s an illness. ... Police officers with guns cannot make people obey a quarantine. In order for this to work, it has to be collaborative. They have to trust the government.”

Thus far, the Obama administration has gotten high marks from quarantine critics, particularly for rejecting suggestions that the U.S. close its border with Mexico during the initial swine flu outbreak. “The current administration quite rightfully resisted those calls,” Jennifer Nuzzo of the University of Pittsburgh’s Center for Biosecurity said.

A report in The Washington Post on Tuesday signaled that the administration may lessen some of the more stringent measures recommended for swine flu earlier this year, such as school closures. Analysts said the administration may want to hold new quarantine powers in reserve, for unforeseen situations or for diseases other than the flu.

POLITICO spoke with about a half-dozen health policy experts and travel industry representatives who submitted comments about the rules the Bush administration proposed in 2005. None of those interviewed had heard that the Obama administration was in the process of reviving the plan, though some hailed the move.

“This is great news,” said Paula Steib of the Association of State and Territorial Health Officials, which generally supported the 2005 proposals.

“I do believe that the coming flu season and the prospect of a resurgence is the reason for the rushed response,” said Georgetown law professor Lawrence Gostin. “I have been calling for the federal government to finalize the CDC regulations for a long time now. They are so antiquated that they provide insufficient powers. ... Much depends on what the final regulations actually say.”

While quarantines are sometimes imposed by state and local officials on uncooperative patients, federal quarantine has been almost unheard of in recent decades. Atlanta attorney Andrew Speaker was famously quarantined in 2007 for flying on international flights while infected with tuberculosis. The last reported federal quarantine before that was in 1963.

In recent months, American and British school groups — even New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin — have been quarantined in China by officials targeting swine flu. “They’ve gotten a lot of criticism from public health authorities,” Nuzzo said.

In April 2003, as severe acute respiratory syndrome spread through Asia, President George W. Bush issued an executive order adding that illness to the list of diseases that are grounds for a quarantine.

In April 2005, when avian flu hit hard overseas, Bush listed “influenza caused by novel or re-emergent influenza viruses that are causing, or have the potential to cause, a pandemic.” A variety of fearsome diseases were already subject to quarantine, including cholera, infectious tuberculosis, plague, smallpox and viral hemorrhagic fevers like Ebola.

The CDC followed that November with the proposed regulations the Obama administration is now finalizing.

Bush administration officials said their proposal would have created a new appeals process for those served with quarantine orders. However, the proposed rules included no new judicial mechanism for review of quarantine orders. Those who objected to being held against their will should file habeas corpus petitions in federal court, guidance accompanying those rules suggested.

Officials said the proposed regulations focused mainly on detaining small numbers of individuals. However, the rules also discussed scenarios “when it is necessary to provisionally quarantine a large group of persons on a very short time frame.”

While any discussion of quarantine may stoke public fears of barbed wire camps filled with infected Americans or closures of international borders, public health experts said that sort of approach to H1N1 flu would not be effective.

“Particularly for flu, the disease is transmitted very rapidly. Within a few days, it’s all over the place,” Nuzzo said.

Critics also objected to a provision in the proposed rules that appeared to require anyone who knows that he or she has been exposed to or is suffering from a communicable illness to seek a “travel permit” from the director of the CDC before taking a train, a plane or even an automobile across state lines.

Agencies across the federal government are making preparations to deal with a serious flare-up of the H1N1 flu this winter. The Food and Drug Administration is overseeing expedited production of vaccines. And the military is considering a plan to give transportation and laboratory help to the Federal Emergency Management Agency in the event of a major outbreak, CNN reported last week.

When the swine flu first grabbed headlines earlier this year, Obama administration officials deflected all questions about quarantines.

“Most quarantine authority is held at the local and state level, and we’re nowhere near that sort of a decision,” Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said at a news briefing in April.

Issuance of the new rules by the business-friendly Bush administration may have bogged down over the possible financial impact of forcing the travel industry to collect and keep more tracing data about passengers. CDC estimated that cost at between $118 million and $425 million.

In May, the airline industry wrote to Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, asking her to enact the new quarantine rules while delaying the data collection provisions pending further review.

An HHS representative did not respond to requests for comment on the letter.

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I bet a million bucks that our little Dr Stanley Goldberg come out of just one of these Black Ops Programs! Didn't ya Stanley!


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CIA doctors, psychologists participated in torture of prisoners
September 4th, 2009 5:16 PM
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Link: http://wsws.org/articles/2009/sep2009/phys-s04.shtml

A new report by the medical ethics group Physicians for Human Rights (PHR) charges that medical professionals attached to the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) assisted in the torture of terror detainees. CIA doctors also provided a pseudo-medical rationale for torture and used prisoners as human research subjects to determine the effects and efficacy of various methods of torture, the report states. These acts constitute war crimes according to the Geneva Conventions and are clear violations of medical ethics.


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MJC, I have been trying to tell you this with my pic. of Mars in the active mind section. There is life on Mars! And with what the pic. I present say, there is no question to that. Also check out my site still under construction. http://dianathebook.com/ I have written many papers on life on Mars over the years, but the pictures say it all.

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Thursday, September 03, 2009
Photos: Strange UFO / OVNI - El Nihuil, Argentina


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http://www.diariosanrafael.com.ar/nota.php?id=35034

diariosanrafael.com.ar - A man living in the village El Nihuil reported seeing an object that he could not identify. He took pictures of it with his cell phone and believes it’s an UFO.

The man decided to protect his identity for fear of public opinion. Although reluctant to make public the episode, a friend persuaded him to publish it in a local Journal and after the promise to safeguard his identity.

It all started last Saturday, around 3 o’clock in the afternoon, near the Nautical Club, when the man went to the coast to check on the conditions for fishing.

He said that while he tries to photograph the object with his cellphone, it began to emit a kind of buzz and, as if it blew hard on the water, stirring, begins to rise. At that time, and while the object rises, he managed to take photographs of the strange silhouette.

As shown in the picture (of low resolution and size), the man had to zoom in to take a closer look. After capturing four images, the object disappeared in the sky.

NOTE: I attempted to enhance the images...too bad the quality wasn't better. Hard to tell the size of this object and there was no mention in the report. There was a later story in Diario San Rafael today and it seems an investigation is being conducted...Lon

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http://www.diariosanrafael.com.ar/nota.php?id=35034


It is possible the drone images might be something eles... Misinterpretation of natural phenomena
Drone-shaped like UFO?

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He said that while he tries to photograph the object with his cellphone, it began to emit a kind of buzz and, as if it blew hard on the water, stirring, begins to rise. At that time, and while the object rises, he managed to take photographs of the strange silhouette.


I see what you mean. I'll be darned.
I not sure what to think about the above.

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So, In regards to UJ's post, Andrew Basiago makes reference to the "Space Navy" in clip #8. I knew a fellow NCO in the Navy who told me a fantastic story about the space navy and how his brother got a special waiver to join. Supposedly, you can't have any family on the outside. All of them have to be on the inside or you can't get in the program. Well, his brother got a waiver because both his dad and he were in the Navy. His father was a Rear Admiral and he was a petty officer first class.

Now here is his story. He told me that he saw what he believed was a submarine. The only thing is that this thing was hovering in what could be considered a dry dock without water. When he saw this his brother got severely reprimanded for bringing to the place where the craft was. Now their were hundreds of people working at this place and he did not see it fly but remain stationary. This was in the middle 1970's. I had totally forgotten about this until Basiago said "Space Navy". I know this is funny but he also said that the smell of ozone in the air was thick and a smell of burnt insulation.

I believe it would not be the Air Force because they are not set up for exotic propulsion systems like the Navy is. This is why the Department of the Navy also has Nuclear Powered Tunnel Boring machines which tunnel 7 miles a day using ultrasonically pumped lasers. I believe the blocks are coming together and because of said linkage it gives it even more credibility.

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Oh gawd. Oh gawd.

I've been listening to the whole Andrew D. Basiago archive - 39 YouTube tapes - the most superb whistleblowing on record.
Wowie.

Cliff's Notes:
Tapes 1 - 20 = Bona Fides, Trips to Mars, life on Mars, time travel,
Tapes 21-30 = Time travel, stargates, back to Gettysburg, Tesla research,
Tapes 31-39 = Everything Else!

Phenomenal. Big time.

Whatever you want to make of this, do have a listen:

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Uncle John here: Here is an easy directory to listen to Andrew D Basiago:

01: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwE8m50sbWk
02: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZBxSVoSIuM
03: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnzwLvqhi-o
04: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbEFMa0AFfg
05: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qobG8x0-5os
06: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0-HOIgcr7E
07: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHIH8YLw9QE
08: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm3VAS_T3bM
09: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXWLPCA8rvU
10: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olVWQ1Iu-sk
11: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwOz9VvzHAU
12: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cASH3BBuM9c
13: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcHb_EcKkCg
14: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPF2PFmwuuo
15: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EExFykfkTIE
16: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLpK1ycTjv0
17: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eFIAck8nsk
18: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99sycNu0gio
19: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI5nrLc7a8Q
20: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQskUx20MeM
21: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQskUx20MeM
22: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdRTvHoN7Vk
23: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zltC9WqUoo8
24: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqao4k-93nI
25: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXKDvKbwFJw
26: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu5WRtnrCs4
27: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQbjaDmyG_E
28: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WL1QzCxS34
29: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKRYtc-lN7I
30: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTnGHxt1m2U
31: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p6_qNzj2PQ
32: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQUfPYMgA4k
33: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YmB_X370JQ
34: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddqIIc8ftfc
35: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_g2kEeWG8w
36: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNkBY9UWmGY
37: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQUzvtHPXeA
38: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYHT8VnKzyM
39: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7Soeea3mnU



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haha

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Uncle John here: I finished the marathon of listening to six hours of the Andrew D. Basiago interview and four hours of the Pete Peterson interview. Whew. No wonder dan has been silent lately, because he of all people, just have to be listening to these interviews and forming his mud. Insider mud must be the thickest mud of them all.

As an antidote to a old zen story, each time Andrew returned from time traveling to the past he said he had mud on his boots, and any good zen master would reply that the mud was inside his head.

They are not as believable as dan. There I said it. Of course I don't believe dan also. I don't think any of the controlling offworlders are going to let dan be replaced, if for no other reason than d&m&thugs are down right nasty and the others seem down right nice.

Disinfo seems to be reaching a new level, not that I feel we are anywhere close to the top.

I don't think any sentient beings interacting on this planet have any reliable and consistent method of time viewing or time travel. What I mean by this is that there are plenty of examples of sentient beings believing or experiencing time viewing or time travel, but that in each and every case, some higher density beings are approving and partially fabricating the results.

That is why I often post, "I love a parade."

P.S. See http://montalk.net/alien/35


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Having also plodded through all the Andrew Basiago interviews and looked at his paper, I'm not sure what to make of it all.
Here we have more claims of time travel and teleporting (OK always a possibility, I'll entertain that). Must say I think a lot of the photos of Mars creatures are a bit ambiguous to be honest, though the best one is the apparent humanoid woman waving an arm.
A lot of his account centres around his childhood experiences where he claims to have been involved in teleporting and CIA 'grooming' at the encouragement of his father. It seems a little odd to me that a father would put their 7 year old son at risk by involving them with what must have been experimental technology, and risk a child's enthusiastic talking openly about such secret work too.
One to watch though, as they say.

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Uncle John here: I finished the marathon of listening to six hours of the Andrew D. Basiago interview and four hours of the Pete Peterson interview. Whew. No wonder dan has been silent lately, because he of all people, just have to be listening to these interviews and forming his mud. Insider mud must be the thickest mud of them all.

As an antidote to a old zen story, each time Andrew returned from time traveling to the past he said he had mud on his boots, and any good zen master would reply that the mud was inside his head.

They are not as believable as dan. There I said it. Of course I don't believe dan also. I don't think any of the controlling offworlders are going to let dan be replaced, if for no other reason than d&m&thugs are down right nasty and the others seem down right nice.

Disinfo seems to be reaching a new level, not that I feel we are anywhere close to the top.

I don't think any sentient beings interacting on this planet have any reliable and consistent method of time viewing or time travel. What I mean by this is that there are plenty of examples of sentient beings believing or experiencing time viewing or time travel, but that in each and every case, some higher density beings are approving and partially fabricating the results.

That is why I often post, "I love a parade."

P.S. See http://montalk.net/alien/35



Excellent find Uncle John - http://montalk.net/alien/35 :!:

This piece says it all. Everything I have read in the past 20 years and believe in is summed up in this post. I recommend it as a highly important read, and I believe implicitly in the last answer given!


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Yes, there is hope in the sense that divine plans are in place to balance the equation and give us a fighting chance of transcending alien manipulation and escaping our fragile physical conditions. The help we receive from higher sources is of a catalytic nature, meaning it merely assists our own efforts.

From one perspective, 3D earth is little more than a prison planet run by tyrannical forces about to implement their “final solution.” We cannot fight as prisoners because we are too weak. To avoid enslavement and liquidation, we must become empowered by first escaping this prison – thankfully with the help of those who have escaped before us. This means accepting divine help, transcending our limited physical states, and evolving into 4D beings ourselves. Only then will we be on a level playing field with our alien manipulators.

From a more metaphysical perspective, 3D earth is a school of hard knocks. The quantum leap in evolution we require to withstand the overt alien takeover is not impossible, it is inevitable – every life lesson we learn brings us closer to graduating from our three dimensional physical existence. This process is natural and need not be forced; for those of us who have chosen the path of integrity and truth, our individual destinies are intertwined with the divine plan, and we have been synchronistically guided since birth to have the right experiences needed to prepare us for what is to come.

Among us are numerous advanced souls from higher realms who have incarnated into our world to help destabilize the alien control system and catalyze the evolution of those ready to graduate for the first time. Many don’t remember who they are or where they came from, and from early childhood most are heavily targeted by negative forces for self-destruction due to their threatening roles as system destabilizers. Those who overcome these obstacles grow strong enough to contribute toward the divine plan by spreading knowledge and assisting the evolution of others. They are former prisoners who have come back to show others how to leave the prison. Many of these we might call “positive aliens.” Take note that no one is chosen or special – anyone can take part in the divine plan who chooses to follow his or her heart and seek knowledge.

Knowledge is the key, for it helps us see through deception and fuels our evolution. Because of knowledge, the alien agenda will be exposed. Because of knowledge, we will evolve new insights and metaphysical abilities that can prepare us to better counter an overt alien takeover. Divine forces are at work to help us learn – if we actively seek knowledge, the way will be shown. If we actively apply knowledge, the path will be cleared. And if we actively share knowledge, the path will be followed by others.




Thank you for that Uncle John and to whomever wrote the MONTALK synopsis!

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Excellent find Uncle John - http://montalk.net/alien/35 :!:

This piece says it all. Everything I have read in the past 20 years and believe in is summed up in this post. I recommend it as a highly important read, and I believe implicitly in the last answer given!


Uncle John here: I have to wonder if dan, Andrew and Pete are:

http://montalk.net/matrix/157/spiritless-humans

I like all three guys, but I have to wonder what is their motivation.

I've been following the wisdom of Tom at montalk.net for ten years. Surprisingly he is just a twenty year old.


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Dex wrote,

Knowledge is the key, for it helps us see through deception and fuels our evolution. Because of knowledge, the alien agenda will be exposed. Because of knowledge, we will evolve new insights and metaphysical abilities that can prepare us to better counter an overt alien takeover. Divine forces are at work to help us learn – if we actively seek knowledge, the way will be shown. If we actively apply knowledge, the path will be cleared. And if we actively share knowledge, the path will be followed by others.


This is so true! Once you know the truth. No one can fool you with disimformation.

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Dear Uncle John,
javascript:emoticon(':lol:') Not to add to your burden, but, well, Golden Threaders, in my never-ending search for the Truth, I have come upon something that has stunned me at a time when I thought that few things could. I don't know if what I have read is the truth, but Cliff's report and some other things make me think that there is more than a bit of truth to it.

When the Brookings report was issued, they recommended taking it slow to tell US about the fact that there might be more life out THERE BECAUSE society would fall into chaos especially ministers, physicians etc. Remember? Well, what if that wasn't REALLY why they were concerned?
What if the big wigs were afraid of something else getting out? Something that had to do with their "concealment" of certain facts?

I imagine that many of you know that Hitler intended to form his own church? Did you know that Rockefeller, in addition to funding and founding the Council of Churches, also rewrote the Christian Bible? Yep.
Did you know that Elron Hubbard got the idea for founding his own church from his work in Navy intel? Yup.

Okay, ask yourselves, why would these individuals want to "form their own religions?" Those of you who are Templar descendants (I am a Teutonic Knight's descendant) should know this...it is because that particular thing has been DONE BEFORE. At least some people are saying that it has.

According to some information on bibliotecapleides.com, the PISO royal family of Rome wrote the NEW TESTAMENT in order to defuse the entire political momentum of the Jewish religion that was threatening to rock their empire. They took elements from the existing Bibles/accounts of creation, wove those together with the very "enhanced" lives of local folk heroes and created the new Testament. They claim that Jesus did not exist.

NOW, YOU GUYS MAY BE UNAWARE OF THE NUMBER OF EXCAVATIONS GOING ON IN THE MIDDLE EAST for the last 12 years. It is one of the reasons that Iraq had to be invaded--to find the facts about certain religious figures. The Old Testament appears authentic and is derived from stories of the people of the middle eastern regions. The Old Testament mirrors creation myths around the world including those of the Essences, the Dogons, the Native Americans. All of these stories talk about a God or Gods that come from the sky and rock the world of the primitive people. The Gods appoint some of their representatives to stay behind and those beings disobey orders and have children with the Earth women. The children are giants or monsters etc.

The Christian church has an old testament which was a combination of the Jewish bible of the time and Gnostic religions combined with a touch of the sun god worshipping lore from around Egypt and Summeria. The New Testament is what is being said to have been invented.

Now, I am having a few problems with this story. Although, as a Catholic, the idea of political manipulations of the Church don't surprise me at all. But did not the Romans try to snuff out the Christians?

MK

PS: If the above is a "version of the truth," I would say that trips to Mars are entirely likely. Peter Beter said that there had been colonies set up on Mars and other planets. It is on his radio show transcripts.

Let's have a parade to the Truth being told about something!
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UncleJohn wrote:
Uncle John here: I finished the marathon of listening to six hours of the Andrew D. Basiago interview and four hours of the Pete Peterson interview. Whew. No wonder dan has been silent lately, because he of all people, just have to be listening to these interviews and forming his mud. Insider mud must be the thickest mud of them all.

As an antidote to a old zen story, each time Andrew returned from time traveling to the past he said he had mud on his boots, and any good zen master would reply that the mud was inside his head.

They are not as believable as dan. There I said it. Of course I don't believe dan also. I don't think any of the controlling offworlders are going to let dan be replaced, if for no other reason than d&m&thugs are down right nasty and the others seem down right nice.

Disinfo seems to be reaching a new level, not that I feel we are anywhere close to the top.

I don't think any sentient beings interacting on this planet have any reliable and consistent method of time viewing or time travel. What I mean by this is that there are plenty of examples of sentient beings believing or experiencing time viewing or time travel, but that in each and every case, some higher density beings are approving and partially fabricating the results.

That is why I often post, "I love a parade."

P.S. See http://montalk.net/alien/35
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Uncle John here: I have to wonder if dan, Andrew and Pete are:

http://montalk.net/matrix/157/spiritless-humans

I like all three guys, but I have to wonder what is their motivation.

I've been following the wisdom of Tom at montalk.net for ten years. Surprisingly he is just a twenty year old.



Hey Uncle John - It is really crazy how much wisdom Tom has put together in his site.

Thanks again for the pointer!

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Dear Shady,

Thank you for putting him up here. I had a lot of trouble believing what he was saying when I first read the transcripts, but over time, I verified so much of it. He was a very brave man.

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Dr. Beter was General Counsel for the Export-Import Bank of Washington; a candidate for the governorship of West Virginia; cofounded SODESMIR, a mineral exploration company in Zaire; represented American gas utilities building a pipeline the length of Argentina; represented mining interests in underwater manganese nodule exploration in the Pacific; was featured at financial seminars in New York City, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Toronto, Montreal, Geneva, and other international financial centers. As a political and economic commentator, Dr. Beter worked with Wall Street luminaries including Franz Pick, Edward Durell, Colonel Curtis Dall, Norman Dodd, Emmanuel Josephson, and many others. He wrote prolifically, including Conspiracy Against the Dollar (Braziller New York).
(1921-1987) Information on Dr. Peter David Beter from Wikipedia

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