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Now don't you think it a bit odd that NASA needs so much "Firepower" to search for water on the moon??

Its no search for water.

They're blowing something up they don't want to world to see.


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Moon crash will create six-mile plume of dust as Nasa searches for water

When the 2.4-tonne Centaur hits at 12.31pm BST, at a speed of 2.5km per second (1.6 miles per sec), it will throw up a plume of debris 10km (6 miles) high.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/s ... 859492.ece


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Post Happy B-Day, Salutations and Greetings to DD and the GT
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Hello All,

Been busy with life and have not posted much.

Two thing today:

1. Belated birthday greeting to DonDep!

2. What is the opinion of GT members on the below news item given that "Dan" is so enamored with the Cabala? The article talks about the Cabala and the holocaust, along with the Rothschilds being Sabbatean-Frankists and Illuminati Jews. Is Henry Makow a Jewish Zionist disinfo agent or someone to listen to?

http://www.henrymakow.com/were_illuminati_jews_responsib.html


MK: I actually know Henry a bit from corresponding with him and some other writer types. Aside from his absolute obsession with feminism as the ruination of civilization (and he does have some good points), Henry tries to be scrupulous about his research and sources. Unlike some people who write for the web, Henry does do research OUTSIDE of the internet and doesn't just reprise rumors.

Now, having read a great deal about Kabbala including why Madonna converted, I would say that Dan is probably fascinated with the SEX part of it. Kabbala has rituals that require a pantomiming of the sex act a number of times each day along with performing the sex act daily if not more. I read about those rituals on the website of a Talmudic scholar and I will try to dig up the link.

After reviewing the intense study that the SNEDs crowd appears to give their every movement, I would imagine that the notion of being able to create a punchlist of when they had pantomimed and real sex to record their diligence in pursuit of religion would cause them no end of sublimated voyeuristic pleasure. This begs the question whether they would sign off on each other's time cards to prevent "cheating?'

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Doing some independent research on the Vatican connection to the Illuminati, World War II War Crimes and the Vat’s dark history

Since Phantom has brought it up in the thread I’d like point out some KEY points on the Vatican’s connection to Nazi Germany


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SS Commandant Franz Stangl

The Austrian Franz Stangl was in charge of Sobibor until September 1942, when he was transferred to the deathcamp Treblinka. Stangl gained a reputation as an efficient administrator and according to SS-Obergruppenfuehrer Odilo Globocnik, Franz Stangl was "the best camp commander, who had the greatest share of the entire action...."


Sobibor and Treblinka were the Nazi's 'key' extermination centers. They were not concentration camps (ie slave labor and detention) but Death camps designed and operated for no other purpose then the extermination of the innocent Jewish population of Europe.

Sobibor and Treblinka between them murdered an estimated 2 million of 6 million Jews that died in Nazi Europe

Frank Stangl was transferred from Treblinka to act as the new Commandant at Sobibor after Treblinka was liquidated and shut down operation.

I am enclosing the entire piece here for it gives indirectly the “Mindset” of Illuminati and the mind set of their minions.. I have also put into bold the Vatican connection..

Its graphic its shocking but in order to really understand how the Illuminati think of us.. You must read it. Because even though this is World War II.. It WILL be mindset of guards and officiers of those that might head up any FEMA/New World Order Camps planned for us today!


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http://www.auschwitz.dk/sobibor/franzstangl.htm

The Austrian Franz Stangl was in charge of Sobibor until September 1942, when he was transferred to the deathcamp Treblinka. Stangl gained a reputation as an efficient administrator and according to SS-Obergruppenfuehrer Odilo Globocnik, Franz Stangl was "the best camp commander, who had the greatest share of the entire action...."



At the end of the war Franz Stangl managed to conceal his identity and although imprisoned in 1945 he was released two years later. He escaped to Italy with his colleague from Sobibor, Gustav Wagner, where he was helped by the Vatican network to Syria on a Red Cross passport. Stangl was joined by his wife and family and lived in Syria for three years before moving to Brazil in 1951. With the help of friends Stangl found work at the Volkswagen plant in Sao Paulo, still using his own name.

For years his responsibility in the mass murder of men, women and children had been known to the Austrian authorities but Austria did not issue a warrant for Stangl's arrest until 1961. It took another six years before he was tracked down by Nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal and arrested in Brazil.

After extradition to West Germany he was tried for the deaths of around 900,000 people. He admitted to these killings but argued:"My conscience is clear. I was simply doing my duty .." Found guilty on 22 October, 1970, Stangl was sentenced to life imprisonment. He died of heart failure in Düsseldorf prison on 28 June, 1971.

Franz Stangl was interviewed by the author Gitta Sereny in 1970 and his comments later appeared in the book Into That Darkness: An Examination of Conscience (1983):

"Would it be true to say that you got used to the liquidations?"

He thought for a moment. "To tell the truth," be then said, slowly and thoughtfully, "one did become used to it."

"In days? Weeks? Months?"

"Months. It was months before I could look one of them in the eye. I repressed it all by trying to create a special place: gardens, new barracks, new kitchens, new everything; barbers, tailors, shoemakers, carpenters. There were hundreds of ways to take one's mind off it; I used them all."

"Even so, if you felt that strongly, there had to be times, perhaps at night, in the dark, when you couldn't avoid thinking about it?"

"In the end, the only way to deal with it was to drink. I took a large glass of brandy to bed with me each night and I drank."

"I think you are evading my question."

"No, I don't mean to; of course, thoughts came. But I forced them away. I made myself concentrate on work, work and again work."

"Would it be true to say that you finally felt they weren't really human beings?"

"When I was on a trip once, years later in Brazil," be said, his face deeply concentrated, and obviously reliving the experience, "my train stopped next to a slaughterhouse. The cattle in the pens hearing the noise of the train, trotted up to the fence and stared at the train. They were very close to my window, one crowding the other, looking at me through that fence. I thought then, 'Look at this, this reminds me of Poland; that's just how the people looked, trustingly, just before they went into the tins..."'

"You said tins," I interrupted. "What do you mean?" But he went on without hearing or answering me.

"... I couldn't eat tinned meat after that. Those big eyes which looked at me not knowing that in no time at all they'd all be
dead." He paused. His face was drawn. At this moment he looked old and worn and real.


"So you didn't feel they were human beings?"

"Cargo," he said tonelessly. "They were cargo." He raised and dropped his hand in a gesture of despair. Both our voices had dropped. It was one of the few times in those weeks of talks that he made no effort to cloak his despair, and his hopeless grief allowed a moment of sympathy.

"When do you think you began to think of them as cargo? The way you spoke earlier, of the day when you first came to Treblinka, the horror you felt seeing the dead bodies everywhere - they weren't 'cargo' to you then, were they?"

"I think it started the day I first saw the Totenlager in Treblinka. I remember Wirth standing there, next to the pits full of blue-black corpses. It had nothing to do with humanity, it couldn't have; it was a mass - a mass of rotting flesh. Wirth said, 'What shall we do with this garbage?' I think unconsciously that started me thinking of them as cargo."

"There were so many children, did they ever make you think of your children, of how you would feel in the position of those parents?"

"No," he said slowly, "I can't say I ever thought that way." He paused. "You see," he then continued, still speaking with this extreme seriousness and obviously intent on finding a new truth within himself, "I rarely saw them as individuals. It was always a huge mass. I sometimes stood on the wall and saw them in the tube. Bu t- how can I explain it - they were naked, packed together, running, being driven with whips like ..." the sentence trailed off.

"Could you not have changed that?" I asked. "In your position, could you not have stopped the nakedness, the whips, the horror of the cattle pens?"

"No, no, no. This was the system. Wirth had invented it. It worked and because it worked, it was irreversible."


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Post Go Look At The Picture of the Moon
On this same topic of truth suppression, I found a study, folks, on the cei.com/org website that is very interesting. It has been suppressed by the EPA because it shows that the theories, method of calculation and data relating to global warming are wrong. We are entering some of the coolest weather that we have had for a very long time. This paper suggests that since 1998, the earth has been cooling off in most places despite what people have been told. It also mentions that right now, despite trade being a virtual standstill and people travelling very little, CO2 levels are rising very rapidly.

I will see if I can email the study to Double-D or the admin and make it available for the perusal of this august body.

Lastly, more truths being uncovered. There is big article on the rumormillnews about Field McConnell saying that he thinks that 9/11 was a put up job and listing his investigative efforts. That's a familiar name down here, is it not? I guess if ol' Field thinks that 9/11 was an inside job, he probably is not going to get that swine flu vaccination either.

I checked on a Russian and Chinese site today and did not see anything about mandatory flu shots. Hmmm. Maybe I overlooked something.

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Hi people..I too have been busy lately...

Happy Birthday DonD!!!

I hope all is well with all you.

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I wasn’t going to say anything about this for I feel its not the proper forum or venue to discuss it.

But as the resident Witch, Pagan and Occultist of the forum. That has actually preformed Sex Magic, Ritual Sex ;) With my MONOGAMUS female partner in the past with whom I shared a deep COMMITTED relationship with.

I feel I must say something so this is it…

Sex Nagic/Ritual Sex can be and is one of the most SPIRITUALLY INTENSE, PHYSICALLY intense, ENERGY raising and SACRED moments one can achieve and down right pleasurable.

The ENGERY raised and exchanged between those engaged in it. Is without a doubt the most intensely spiritual and emotional charged moments one could possibly achieve..

To use the analogy from a 1980s movie Cocoon.. Its like Steve Gutenberg in the pool with alien woman that sheds her ‘human’ body and becomes Pure Energy Being.

When Ritual Sex/Sex Magick is done right. The body literally becomes nothing! You and your partner become purest forum of energy and you achieve a SACRED unity with that other person as your energies LITERALLY become one enfolded into each other.

The Bond of That Union, the literal ONESS transcends time and space itself! An thus opens a psychic link that borders on the very edge of what we would call the supernatural.

There was one event between my lover and I during a sex magic ritual. Where our SPIRIT if you will literally exchanged physical bodies. An we looked upon each other THROUGH Each others physical eyes! For that very brief 2 minutes. We each EXPERIENCED IN TOTALITY what its like to be oppossite gender, to experience it. And when this ‘transference’ reversed itself (as it did.) We spent the rest of the night simply cuddling in each others naked arms in tears of JOY at the Sacredness we had just experienced.

If you find that obscene, evil, perverted or Occultic Dangerous..

Then hey simply don’t do it!

The Creator, (Be called God or Goddess) created us both male and female with each their own unique perspective and energy frequencies . It also created us knowing full well we are sexual beings and knew we would engage in it. Thus how can it be anything but SACRED for the Creator intended it from the start.

Yes some Paganfolk and practineers of arts of magic do take it one step farther. We actually incorporate it into our Rituals and magically practices. When we pay homage to the Divine and to Sacredness of LIFE itself.

Big Deal!


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PS... We could be doing far worse in our Religious practices.. We could be prostrating ourselves before a symbol of Roman death and torture..Drinking the blood and consuming the flesh of dead God... But hey Christians have a monoply on that :twisted:


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The infamous Illuminati "defector" Mr. Leo Zagami,Grandmaster of European Illuminati,33 degree Freemason of the infamous P2 Lodge makes a rare appearence on radio today.Mr. Zagami is my "friend" on myspace and i get great pleasure in telling him the Illuminatis reign of categorized fear and terror on the massed population on this planet now is coming to an end.He never makes any reply of course.Some interviews with him,including Project Camelot,which are most revealing,telling of the evil occult cameraderie between members of the Illuminati and Freemasonry included = http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p ... 690BA7AFB3 = plus another exclusive interview with Chris Hudson,aka "the Forerunner777",also a friend on youtube and myspace,which exposes the evil of freemasonry and the papacy and the Illuminati = http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p ... 993C61B278 = The radio prog today = "Don't miss Leo Young Zagami with Steve Genier on Sunday the 4th of October 2009 on Nocturnal Frequency Radio

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Nocturnal_Frequency

from 11pm till 1am (US Eastern time zone)

NOCTURNAL FREQUENCY RADIO

Pieces of the darkness are now set to reveal themselves!! Hosts Steve Genier and Alex Rondini will be trying to unravel the paranormal from all aspects. From the scientific to the spiritual and from it's urban legends. Interviewing people who investigate, research and write about the paranormal. Of course many of you are interested in the paranormal and all it's different aspects! Let's face it, there are many different ways to approach it, that is our defense given that this is not only a field that still relatively unknown but highly unregulated and very exploited! These are the issues we cover on the shown" ...from his site http://www.leozagami.com/ = Welcome from Leo Zagami

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Friday, 19 June 2009 13:13
We the Order of the Knights Templar's renounce Obama and oppose his presidency, this a just decision that has nothing to do with renouncing or opposing the Office of the President of the United States of America: it does however have everything to do with renouncing and opposing Obama personally. Know that it is the very Office of the President of the United States of America, and everything that this office represents, that the Knights Templar are trying to protect!
Knights Templar of the Apocalypse

The decision to renounce and oppose Obama was not made lightly, and know that much time and thought was put into our decision before it was made "public". Still, after careful and deliberate consideration, it was decided that something had to be said, and if something was in fact going to be said, then it had to be said loudly and strongly. The Knights Templar stands behind what we have decided to say concerning Obama.

As Templar's and Freemasons we are not permitted to discuss politics and religion within the sacred confines of the Lodge walls, and that tenant we respect greatly, but this stand of ours is being made outside of the Lodge walls, and because of that we shall speak our mind.

Are we to do nothing. After careful review it is clear to anyone with open eyes that Obama is leading the United States down the road to socialism, not to mention Taxation Without Representation, and this is to completely ignore the valid claims that Obama himself was not legally able to run for the Office of the President due to the fact he has yet to produce a valid, or even invalid, birth certificate!

Still, the point begs a response, are we Templar's and Brothers to do nothing? Are we, as self-proclaimed proponents of Freedom and Liberty, to just sit idle and ignore the events that are occurring in Washington and corrupting our nation? Are we Templar's and Brothers to do less than what are our Companions and Brothers did who fought for the Confederate States of America, and that is to act on moral principles? How about our Companions and Brothers involved in the ORIGINAL Tea Party? What of the Templar's and Brothers who fought against the Crown in the American War of Independence? Or what of our Templars and Brothers who took action against the oppressive French Monarchy in 1789? And what of our German Companions and Brothers, who as civilians and military personnel, who took action against the Fuhrer? What of the Templars and Brothers who fought to free Cuba after Castro took control? Are all of these Templars and Brothers wrong for fighting what they believed to be gross injustices in their land? Are we to blame any of these Companions and Brothers for acting courageously in trying to defend their nation's freedom and restore liberty to its people? Are ANY of these Templars and Brothers, all who fought to free their particular nation from political oppression, wrong to do what they felt was right in defending their nation's Liberties and Freedoms? Think about it please, are Templars and Masons, or even non-Masons, to just sit by and watch the United States be destroyed from within? Do we as Knights Templars and Freemasons just TALK about defending Freedom and Liberty or are we men who will do something about it if any of our God Given Rights are threatened? Are we, the Templars and Brothers of today, not to do anything constructive to correct the actions of a man clearly bent on turning the United States into a socialist country?

I say NO; the Order of the Knights Templars says NO; EVERY Freedom-Loving American says NO; and ALL Knights Templars and Freemasons should say NO!

Now, more than ever, is the time for the Knights Templars and Freemasonry to act. Media sensations such as "National Treasure", "The Da Vinci Code" and Dan Brown's someday-to-be-released book concerning the Knights Templars, Freemasonry and Washington can only carry the Fraternity so far. As we are all aware, new membership in the Craft is on a very sharp decline, and these media events that are temporarily increasing our ranks are only that ? temporary increases due to Hollywood and nothing more. As soon as Hollywood's interest in the Craft dies, so will the increased interest in the Craft will die with it. Why? Because Hollywood shows or tells nothing of what the Knights Templars or Freemasonry is actually about and shows our Craft in none of its true form, and once this spike of recruitment slows, and eventually diminishes, what is the Fraternity to do then?

And now I will tell you: We are to lead! I can tell you by experience that the American people as a whole, both men and women, are looking for leaders. Let the Knights Templars and Freemasons now lead these people. Let the Knights Templars and Freemasons lead the way!

Let us make this perfectly clear: The United States of America is by far the greatest country in the world. The Order of the Knights Templars of the Templi Secretum has more reverence for this country and compassion for its leaders than anyone you will talk to this month; and make no mistake about it, the Order of the Knights Templars of the Templi Secretum is a moral, honest, and honorable Order. Finally, know that the Order of the Knights Templars of the Templi Secretum is completely committed to defending and protecting the United States CONSTITUTION, the United States BILL OF RIGHTS and the UNITED STATES of AMERICA against ALL enemies both foreign AND domestic, and this includes Obama!

God Bless America!

In Hoc Signo Vinces,


Leo Lyon Zagami
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World Bank could run out of money 'within 12 months'
Published on 10-04-2009


Source: Telegraph
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/fina ... onths.html

The Bank, whose job it is to support low-income countries, has had to hand out so much cash in the wake of the financial crisis that its resources could run dry within 12 months.

“By the middle of next year we will face serious constraints,” said its president Robert Zoellick, as he launched a major campaign to persuade rich nations to pour more money into the Washington-based institution.

He conceded that such a task was likely to be extremely difficult, given the difficulties facing countries in the wake of the developed world’s biggest recession since the Second World War. However, Mr Zoellick, speaking at the opening of the IMF and World Bank annual meetings in Istanbul, said the Bank needed a capital increase of as much as $11.1bn (£6.9bn) to keep functioning. He said he hoped that its shareholders, including the UK and other leading nations, would decide on resources before its spring meeting next April.

The money would be shared between the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development – the key part of the bank, which lends to poor nations – and the International Financial Corporation (IFC), which lends to companies.

Mr Zoellick said: “We recognise that all countries are under budgetary strain and it is not an easy time to be asking for these things”.

He said that a shortfall of cash for the IFC was a cause for particular concern, Mr Zoellick added, “because one of the issues in this recovery is the hand-off from government stimulus programs to private-sector development.”

The Bank has had to lend significantly more cash than the three-year $100bn programme it committed to last year because of the virulence of the financial and economic crisis. The majority of the money has been spent ensuring the survival of the most vulnerable nations.


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http://www.infowars.com/red-dawn-2010/

Is it predictive programming or just another cheesy Hollywood remake? Dan Bradley’s remake of the classic 1984 movie Red Dawn is now underway in Detroit, Michigan. It will be released next September.

Instead of Russians and Cubans invading America, this time it will be the Chinese. How appropriate. The U.S. currently owes China trillions. Since there is probably no way we can ever repay this debt, is it possible China will take control of the country?

In 2005, Chi Haotian, Minster of Defense and vice-chairman of China’s Central Military Commission, allegedly proposed invading and occupying America, not as a result of a staggering and unpayble debt, but rather for the sake of lebensraum, the German word for “living space.” Here’s what Mr. Haotian supposedly said:

From a humanitarian perspective, we should issue a warning to the American people and persuade them to leave America and leave the land they have lived in to the Chinese people. Or at least they should leave half of the United States to be China’s colony, because America was first discovered by the Chinese. But would this work? If this strategy does not work, then there is only one choice left to us. That is, use decisive means to “clean up” America, and reserve America for our use in a moment. Our historical experience has proven that as long as we make it happen, nobody in the world can do anything about us. Furthermore, if the United States as the leader is gone, then other enemies have to surrender to us.

Predictive programming or just another remake by a movie industry bankrupt of creative imagination? You decide.

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The Group Of Twenty And The
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In 1994 when I covered my first global meeting, there was a press briefing by the Commission on Global Governance on their forthcoming report, Our Global Neighborhood. The man giving the briefing was one of the co-chairs, Sir Shridath Ramphal who was not only president of Guyana but also president of the (British) Commonwealth Association. As I read the glossy brochure, I thought he meant "global government" to which he replied "No, no, no we mean global governance." When I asked about a global currency, he laughed and said, "No, not for a long time."

The meeting recently held n Pittsburgh comprised the third meeting of the heads of state and finance ministers from the Group of Twenty nations: the developed countries led by the United States, Canada, Great Britain, France, Italy, Japan, Russia and Germany and the top developing countries: Argentina, Australia, Brazil, China, India, Indonesia, Mexico, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, South Korea, and Turkey, as well as the European Union. Together, they represent 85% of the world's Gross Domestic Product-GDP and 80% of world trade.

The Group of Eight-G8 began meeting in 1973 when Richard Nixon called together the leaders of four countries to determine how the world would be run economically now that he had put the world currencies on a floating basis when he removed the last ties the dollar had to gold in 1971. A formal meeting was held in 1975 in France with five countries and soon it was seven countries known as the Group of Seven until 1998 when Russia was officially admitted. Since 1975, whatever decision these seven or eight countries came to was law and if the rest of the countries of the world knew what was good for them, they would follow suit. In short, the Group of Eight acted as a "Global Board of Directors" for the world. Over the years, they expanded their purview to include every facet of government: labor, education, transportation, trade, housing, finance and the environment.

Under their auspices, the floating exchange between countries was perfected to the point where it was easy to raid any countries currency which did not do what they were suppose to do as mandated by the strong countries, there was the oil crises of the 1970s, and the fall of the shah of Iran who was the peacekeeper of the Middle East. The final pieces were added to the international infrastructure: the World Trade Organization, the regional groups like the European Union and the Free Trade Areas of the Americas, the International Criminal Court, and the tearing down of economic barriers between the countries of the world by calling on the U.S. to repeal the Glass-Steagall Act in 1999.

In 1998, the Group of Eight decided to become more integrated as they deviated from just economic concerns to the daily concerns that each country faces: health, education, growth, trade, etc. Tony Blair talked about the need to work together on all these issues so that each country could help each other and they could learn from one another. This is called integration, not advice. The final Communiqué which the G8 issued (then the G5) in 1975 was just a few pages to over one thousand pages in some years. Indeed they became a venue of "global governance."

As a result of the 2007-2009 Credit Crisis, it was former President George Bush who called together the leaders of the developing countries to meet with the leaders of the developed countries last November. They instantaneously became their own powerhouse. At the second meeting in London this past April, they empowered the International Monetary Fund with $1.1T including a new offering of Special Drawing Rights-SDRs and they changed the Financial Stability Forum to the Financial Stability Board and greatly empowered its structure by giving them a plenary structure and several Steering Committees. The Financial Stability Board is part of the growing architectural pieces at the Bank for International Settlement in Basel, Switzerland.

In an interview with Professor John Kirton of the University of Toronto who heads up the unofficial secretariat of the Group of Eight and Twenty, he said of global governance, "It has come to mean, steering, shaping the global order through processes. Not only government of nation-states assisted by intergovernmental organizations, but a broad array of actors that have an important and legitimate place." When I asked about how they and their roles had changed, he responded that the G20 had "institutionalized itself in an integrated way with the G8 so that next year in Canada, there would be a coming together of the two global governance institutions." It was announced in Pittsburgh, that next year the G20 would meet at the same time that the G8 meets on economic issues. The G8 will continue their oversight of all other issues they currently govern. This is no small feat. Does anyone really understand the magnitude of what is happening?

When I asked Professor Kirton about the evolution of definitions of global governance since 1994 when we first met, he said, "Yes, there are many definitions for a global community [to be] attracted to a global concept. [You have the] command hierarchy in sovereign nation-states, [then there is] a middle range ­ a guiding steering process when more formal institutions are necessary but a broad array of actors from civil society have an important place." In other words, the global level is to be guided by civil society which includes non-governmental organizations, "celebrity diplomacy" created by the rock star, Bono, and others.

In fact, Professor Kirton was adamant that the United Nations has seen its day since they have been unable to respond to a changing world. He pointed to the UN Security Council which has the same five permanent members in today's world and that it does not even include Japan (G8 member) or China and any of the other developing countries.

The truth of the matter is that the coming together of the major developing countries with the G8 is a turning point in world history. If Bush is copying Nixon who created the G8, the truth of the matter is that we have continued to have serious economic crises. But it also points to a stronger power over the nation-states: the presidents and prime ministers who will ask their governments to implement what they have agreed to. It does point to a world governmental structure in which the laws of the nation-states have and are being changed to conform to what is agreed to on the global level. It leaves out the poor countries of the world which have no voice in this newly empowered governance structure.

It also points to a shift in world power. As you study the economics of the G20, they have a total GDP of $47T and public debt of $29T or 63%. Now we can talk all we want about global governance, interdependence, etc. but the truth of the matter is that there is more than one way to conquer a country. In the old days, it was a physical invasion, brute force, end of story. But in today's electronic society, it is through banking, the stock exchange, the bond exchange, and the derivatives market. Basically, there has been no physical invasion, no black helicopters and no physical carnage. Today, it is debt. What difference does it make if the house has no or little equity versus the finances of a country? The Group of Twenty is indebted to the central bankers of the world. The agenda of the United Nations, the G8 or the G20 is basically a front for the real powers that run the world: the central banks which are private corporations that lend money to governments by printing it.

The bottom line: the United Nations and the G8 have not brought or kept world peace, they have not prevented war and neither have they improved the finances of any country. Furthermore, they have not improved the state of the world either. The only thing they have done is set up an infrastructure that reduces the power and sovereignty of the nation-state. In essence they have de-stabilized the world. Who really runs the country and the world? He who has the gold makes the rules and it is not governments!


Uncle John here: This is an extremely important point of view. One could say that the focus of the Golden Thread is that of the offworlders that run our world and their direct puppets, the majestic group. Now we must seriously consider that the bankers are also direct puppets of the offworlders. Is there any tension or difference of opinion between majestic and the bankers.

I wonder if the offworlders are controlled by their bankers?

I wonder how the cooperation of the human bankers and the offworlder bankers is established and maintained?

Surely the coin of the offworlder bankers is not gold or the dollar. The coin of the offworlder bankers is likely human experience. I wonder what the trade off is between human experience and the human system of marginal wealth using derivatives? Humans give us their choice of experience to be able to buy into this human system of wealth.

Could evil be the common denominator between the offworlder and human systems of money? How does one monetize evil? Why would any billion year old culture be based upon evil?

The only answer that makes sense to me is that goodness feeds off evil. If this is the case then it is wrong and must be changed. Could it be that if goodness expands it's range or scope then it reaches a critical mass and self implodes?

This leads me to think of the physics of right and wrong? Who is to guide us in this pursuit? How can humans join each other in the pursuit of goodness? Why is the fascination of humans with reality TV, athletic and computer games instead of civility?

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Uncle John here: In a PM to me, someone wondered how many posts the Golden Thread might contain?

This is an interesting thought. I have archived and distributed the Golden Thread since it's inception on 10/2/03.

It consist of saved web pages consisting of perhaps twenty or so of posts.

There is a slight overlap of these pages in some of the early directories.

The 8/25/09 checkpoint of the GT contained 4526 folders which would be slightly more than the number of web pages saved.

The GLP contained 30 posts per page and the current forum contains 25 posts per page.

An approximation of the number of posts would be 4500 * 27 = 121,500 posts. I suspect the number would be slightly less than this.


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09-22-2009 • The American Conservative

GIRALDI: So they were doing favors for other reasons. Both Feith and Perle were lobbyists for Turkey and also were involved with Israel on defense contracts, including some for Northrop Grumman, which Feith represented in Israel.

EDMONDS: They had arrangements with various companies, some of them members of the American Turkish Council. They had arrangements with Kissinger’s group, with Northrop Grumman, with former secretary of state James Baker’s group, and also with former national security adviser Brent Scowcroft.

The monitoring of the Turks picked up contacts with Feith, Wolfowitz, and Perle in the summer of 2001, four months before 9/11. They were discussing with the Turkish ambassador in Washington an arrangement whereby the U.S. would invade Iraq and divide the country. The UK would take the south, the rest would go to the U.S. They were negotiating what Turkey required in exchange for allowing an attack from Turkish soil. The Turks were very supportive, but wanted a three-part division of Iraq to include their own occupation of the Kurdish region. The three Defense Department officials said that would be more than they could agree to, but they continued daily communications to the ambassador and his defense attaché in an attempt to convince them to help.

Meanwhile Scowcroft, who was also the chairman of the American Turkish Council, Baker, Richard Armitage, and Grossman began negotiating separately for a possible Turkish protectorate. Nothing was decided, and then 9/11 took place.

Scowcroft was all for invading Iraq in 2001 and even wrote a paper for the Pentagon explaining why the Turkish northern front would be essential. I know Scowcroft came off as a hero to some for saying he was against the war, but he was very much for it until his client’s conditions were not met by the Bush administration.


Read the Rest of the Story:

http://amconmag.com/article/2009/nov/01/00006/



They were carving Up Iraq 4 4 4 four months BEFORE 9/11! Before so called Bin Liden and thugs attacked... Bin Linden according to Edmond's statements was on the C.I.A PAY ROLL up to 9/11!



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On Monday, July 20, 2009, BGM followed Richard Gage, AIA, founder of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, on the final day of his visit to Washington, D.C.

The final stop was the White House where Gage, with Slesinger, laid an AE911Truth banner on the sidewalk and addressed the tourists gathered there. Gage got into a heated but cordial debate with a man who identified himself as Kevin, a "reformed truther" and the former "debunking director" on the JREF Forum.

Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
http://www.ae911truth.org/

Baltimore GrassRoots Media
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Hey, UncleJohn - thought provoking indeed. Interesting option you posture: "One could say that the focus of the Golden Thread is that of the offworlders that run our world and their direct puppets, the majestic group." I would like to agree, but I feel that it should certainly be a much wider perspective. Like - "Why is Humanity not free?"

You also say "The only answer that makes sense to me is that goodness feeds off evil." Surely that should be "Evil feeds off Goodness." :wink: Hmmm, I get your drift though - I am poking for a debate here. IMO the process ongoing is to dumb down humanity to obscure the Spiritual objective we all have as a destiny and to feed off the misery that is created. Why? Well, there is an answer to that one, but then it should maybe be opened up for discussion. It is truly a fascinating answer. One which has been suppressed since the dawn of the current epoch of Mother Earth being home to conscious humanity. There is too much being done to distract and destroy for this not to be true. A clue to everyone here is "Why does Freewill exist?"

You ask: "Who is to guide us in this pursuit? How can humans join each other in the pursuit of goodness?" Well imo that answer arrived on this Planet around 2000 years ago, and it exists in writing today. Strange that few want to pursue this answer and remain captured in lower Mind. Maybe the answer for this lethargy lies in stories such as my next post? There is a Higher Mind that we are all capable of, but it requires doors and gateways to be found and opened. It requires that you develop a conscience and a capacity of Forgiveness and Love. It requires higher Faith. Nuff said.

Love conquers all!!!

So how about it - Any progression on this?

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17 September 2009 - UFO Messages: Earth might be completely destroyed
Opinion by Michael Cohen m.cohen@allnewsweb.com

In the last few months dramatic developments have occurred in regards to human/extra-terrestrial relations and communication. Small UFO probes communicating with earthlings have been sending messages indicating that while open contact might be around the corner, if we don't mend our ways we might find ourselves on the galactic list of extinct species.

It is now known that the civilization located in Andromeda Galaxy that is communicating with us via these UFO probes refer to themselves as ‘Axthadans’. They are at least several thousand years ahead of humanity in terms of technology. Their appearance lies somewhat between the race we refer to as ‘Greys’ and our own. This alien civilization has in fact been watching humans and even discreetly guiding them for thousands of years.

It has also now been confirmed that the Axthadans are not directly sending these probes. The probes are being sent by the race often referred to as 'Greys'. Greys are in fact another sub-group, as we are, of the Axthadan race. The Grey's home planet is within the Milky Way and believed to be located about 30 light years away from Earth. 'Greys' are a few hundred years ahead of humanity in terms of technology and have only been inducted into the wider universal community relatively recently (possibly a few hundred years ago).

The 'Greys', who's real name is unknown to this author, seem to be responsible for many alleged abductions here on Earth and might have been the group associated with the Roswell event.

Unlike Greys, Axthadans are said to be rather tall. Members of this race have visited Earth on occasion but do not do so very often. The Biblical account telling of the Prophet Ezekiel's experience with UFOs is said to recall a visit by the Axthadans.


A few meetings between Axthadans and government officials worldwide seem to have taken place.

The Greys have been generally entrusted by these other more evolved aliens with the task of helping prepare humanity for possible integration into universal culture. Many UFO researchers might query how well they are handling this task and some are suggesting that in recent years or months Axthadans have taken a more hands-on approach as a consequence.
Axthadans are currently grooming over three hundred semi-technological civilizations for induction into a universal family of civilizations. Sadly, Most of these civilizations will not make it.

The Pentagon is now in possession of extensive footage and information regarding life on their planet: Axthada. This planet has been described as being of great beauty and it’s civilization as ‘Utopian’ by earth’s standards.
It is now known that these aliens have issued earthlings with a warning: We have less than a decade to completely bring an end to all forms of warfare, racism, prejudice and economic exploitation. The Axthadans have sent messages stating that if we continue our evil ways we will destroy ourselves and this planet within fifty years.
In the event that aliens do disclose their presence to humanity and we continue to display any of these traits Planet Earth itself might have to be destroyed as a potential threat to universal harmony. In this scenario it is believed that innocent human victims of exploitation as well as other species will be resettled elsewhere.
In an ironic twist Axthadans are communicating with groups seen as perpetrators. As such immense pressure has been placed on the US administration. A decision was made to allow America’s economy to falter to allow for a redistribution of power and resources. Obviously the election of an African-American to the U.S Presidency was seen as a positive development by the Axthadans.
The question now is will this satisfy our alien custodians or will this be seen as mere window dressing? It is believed that the Axthadans mean business and will not tolerate any trace of the existing power-structure. Ego-driven and ultra-materialistic western culture seems slated for destruction.
Will Westerners adapt to a new reality where previously trodden on groups such as indigenous populations of countries like the US and Australia will perhaps be given leadership roles? Extraterrestrials have noted that the manner in which such groups were able to live for thousands of years in harmony with their environment translates into a safer, more peaceful universal existence. Western values of devour and destroy in an orgy of selfishness for the sole benefit of personal gain are said to be of immense concern to aliens.

It is this author's belief that the recent Chinese UFO event that took place during the solar eclipse (see here) involved a 'manned' Axthadan craft. This almost irrefutable sighting is being hailed by Chinese researchers as one of the most compelling ever. Does this brazen example of aliens deliberately exposing their own presence at a time when many looked skyward signal something? Are aliens looking to China to lead humanity towards its destiny? I have received a number of emails from well-known researchers and cover-up insiders noting that the US is indeed worried over alien interest in China and its more communitarian values. Curiously the Chinese eclipse UFO event has been totally ignored by Western nations, possibly not willing to admit its implications.

Does free-wheeling highly individualistic capitalism have a cosmic future or is it simply untenable and even dangerous when imposed on a much more complex paradigm: such as a universe?

It should be noted at this point that the author is not unaware of the massive advances capitalism has brought humanity, nor is this an op-ed piece for socialism; merely a summary of what appear to be the known issues facing civilizations that join a galactic or universal family of races. The 'Cosmic Capitalism' doctrine studied by NASA scientists and others suggests that self-interest is imprinted into all living things as a result of evolution. However as one goes up the food chain this self-interest, responsible as it is for so much progress, becomes more potentially dangerous and thus it becomes more important to balance this tendency with social restraints.

On a Galactic level this becomes a matter of the very survival of the universe: Hence not all races make the grade and are inducted to a wider family of civilizations.

We realise that many readers will find this information hard to believe, however for those who work on these issues on a daily basis it is all too real. Our sources are such individuals and we can reveal they are not just speaking to All News Web. Other publications have also been contacted.
In the words of Bob Dylan ‘The times they are a-changin’….again. Will humanity make the grade?

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A woman claims that during a conversation with an ex-Phoenix police officer, she was told that law enforcement have been told that they may have to go door to door and forcibly vaccinate people in the event of a deadly swine flu pandemic.

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Was Albert Einstein aware of the Illuminati and Zionists plans for Israel you betch'a! He knew Israel would be death nell of his people the Jews.




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Dear Sir:
When a real and final catastrophe should befall us in Palestine the first responsible for it would be the British and the second responsible for it the Terrorist organizations build up from our own ranks.

I’m not willing to see anybody associated with those misled and criminal people.
Sincerely yours,
Albert Einstein.

As stated by United Nations General Assembly Resolution 194 (III) 11 December 1948
Having considered further the situation in Palestine,

11. Resolves that the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbours should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date, and that compensation should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return and for loss of or damage to property which, under principles of international law or in equity, should be made good by the Governments or authorities responsible;
Instructs the Conciliation Commission to facilitate the repatriation, resettlement and economic and social rehabilitation of the refugees and the payment of compensation, and to maintain close relations with the Director of the United Nations Relief for Palestine Refugees and, through him, with the appropriate organs and agencies of the United Nations;





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The link given in the above quoted story had this story: http://www.allnewsweb.com/page7947948.php

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Michael Cohen m.cohen@allnewsweb.com

One of the world most respected UFO researchers just sent me an email expressing amazement at how the UFO seen and filmed by many in the city of Deqing, China, during the solar eclipse (Above and below still from footage and film below) looks almost identical to descriptions and sketches of the enormous UFO seen in 1986 by the crew of a Japanese Airlines flight over Alaska (Captains Terauchi's sketch and an artists impression can be seen below).

No less that 22 students witnessed the recent solar eclipse UFO (see timeline below) and 9 captured separate images (see this article)! The UFO was described by the students as initially being dark metallic in color, then glowing and morphing in shape. Astonishingly the morphing was captured on film and Xinhua (China's government news outlet) has confirmed that government authorities are studying the images. The event itself has been reported in over 100 Asian news outlets (yet oddly, completely ignored in the West).

The JAL event is regarded by many ufologists as the most credible sighting ever as the UFO was tracked on both ground and airborne radar, witnessed by experienced airline pilots, and confirmed by a FAA Division Chief (See UFO evidence for more details).

That UFO was said to have been at least four times the size of the plane, a Boeing 747. Could it be that the above image is not of a small probe but a giant UFO very far away?

Undoubtedly this image fits Captain Terauchi's Description of the craft as being 'walnut shaped'.

Interesting to note as well is the similarity between this craft and the UFO seen in the 'image of an Axthadan' drawn by an ex-insider and seen below.

It has long been my opinion that the UFO seen by the JAL crew was the same type UFO seen by Ezekiel of the Bible. The UFO whose terrible appearance had the prophet fall to the ground in fear and awe. I am fairly certain that it was this shape that led Ezekiel to write 'As for their rims they were awesome'. The craft that covered both Ezekiel's and Captain Terauchi's face with a warm glow.The mighty sight of an inter-galactic Axthadan spaceship that led even the heavens to roar 'Oh Wheel'.

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Image of an Axthadan: See http://www.allnewsweb.com/page6986989.php

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Earlier coverage: China Eclipse UFO: We're not alone, Video! China: Huge UFO event gets massive media coverage, photo Chinese UFO event of the year, video An Axthadan UFO captured in all it's glory

Sources: Xinhua Ifeng LND News China News News 163 People RZ Dahe China Tech Sina Asia Today Dayoo

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This was an interesting question UJ, here’s some facts for you!
Since we moved the GT to this Forum back on March 2007 we have had the following stats to The Golden Thread ONLY...
This does NOT include any of our sub forums.

Post Replies = 12,274
GT thread Views = 576,410

Keep in mind that this does NOT include our two free hosting forums that we lost (forced from :twisted: ) or the Stargate & GLP Threads :shock:



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Uncle John here: In a PM to me, someone wondered how many posts the Golden Thread might contain?

This is an interesting thought. I have archived and distributed the Golden Thread since it's inception on 10/2/03.

It consist of saved web pages consisting of perhaps twenty or so of posts.

There is a slight overlap of these pages in some of the early directories.

The 8/25/09 checkpoint of the GT contained 4526 folders which would be slightly more than the number of web pages saved.

The GLP contained 30 posts per page and the current forum contains 25 posts per page.

An approximation of the number of posts would be 4500 * 27 = 121,500 posts. I suspect the number would be slightly less than this.

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That's 13 post a day

and 613 views a day

If my simple math is right. :lol: Powerful net stat indeed...

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Keep in mind folks. `This Awakening' thats going on in the body that is humanity. This War of the Endtimes for ultimate victory of Liberation of Humanity from its slave-masters. The Awakening is happening in ALL ranks and be not shocked.

Before all is said and done. When we stand on the battle lines shoulder to shoulder before the final charge against our enemy. You WILL be standing shoulder to shoulder with Patriots on onside and former Illuminati on other and together you will charge against our common enemy.

If that offends you or shocks you. Well keep in mind this is not a clearly black and white, vs them issue.

We have all been hoodwinked and manipulated by a common foe of Humanity for ages eternal... now that is quickly coming to end.


The Quickening is Here.. From this point forward it will speed up and speed up and build. To that point either we stand together or we surely Fall Divided!


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Let us make this perfectly clear: The United States of America is by far the greatest country in the world. The Order of the Knights Templars of the Templi Secretum has more reverence for this country and compassion for its leaders than anyone you will talk to this month; and make no mistake about it, the Order of the Knights Templars of the Templi Secretum is a moral, honest, and honorable Order. Finally, know that the Order of the Knights Templars of the Templi Secretum is completely committed to defending and protecting the United States CONSTITUTION, the United States BILL OF RIGHTS and the UNITED STATES of AMERICA against ALL enemies both foreign AND domestic, and this includes Obama!

God Bless America!

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Hey, UncleJohn - thought provoking indeed. Interesting option you posture: "One could say that the focus of the Golden Thread is that of the offworlders that run our world and their direct puppets, the majestic group." I would like to agree, but I feel that it should certainly be a much wider perspective. Like - "Why is Humanity not free?"


Uncle John here: I could be said that the reason that humanity is not free is ignorance. Ignorance of how humans are controlled or directed.

I think a more fundamental answer to this question is apathy. Humans don't care what is going on. Humans know they are ignorant and don't seem to care about this. I feel that is apathy is the direct result of mind control by offworlders.

Just think, who is the wisest person alive? Wisdom has been driven out of human desires by apathy.

One must remember that freedom exists on many levels and domains so the answer to your question has many answers.


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A story I found on http://www.allnewsweb.com/page9199196.php

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17 September 2009 - UFO Messages: Earth might be completely destroyed
Opinion by Michael Cohen m.cohen@allnewsweb.com

In the last few months dramatic developments have occurred in regards to human/extra-terrestrial relations and communication. Small UFO probes communicating with earthlings have been sending messages indicating that while open contact might be around the corner, if we don't mend our ways we might find ourselves on the galactic list of extinct species.

It is now known that the civilization located in Andromeda Galaxy that is communicating with us via these UFO probes refer to themselves as ‘Axthadans’. They are at least several thousand years ahead of humanity in terms of technology. Their appearance lies somewhat between the race we refer to as ‘Greys’ and our own. This alien civilization has in fact been watching humans and even discreetly guiding them for thousands of years.

It has also now been confirmed that the Axthadans are not directly sending these probes. The probes are being sent by the race often referred to as 'Greys'. Greys are in fact another sub-group, as we are, of the Axthadan race. The Grey's home planet is within the Milky Way and believed to be located about 30 light years away from Earth. 'Greys' are a few hundred years ahead of humanity in terms of technology and have only been inducted into the wider universal community relatively recently (possibly a few hundred years ago).

The 'Greys', who's real name is unknown to this author, seem to be responsible for many alleged abductions here on Earth and might have been the group associated with the Roswell event.

Unlike Greys, Axthadans are said to be rather tall. Members of this race have visited Earth on occasion but do not do so very often. The Biblical account telling of the Prophet Ezekiel's experience with UFOs is said to recall a visit by the Axthadans.


A few meetings between Axthadans and government officials worldwide seem to have taken place.

The Greys have been generally entrusted by these other more evolved aliens with the task of helping prepare humanity for possible integration into universal culture. Many UFO researchers might query how well they are handling this task and some are suggesting that in recent years or months Axthadans have taken a more hands-on approach as a consequence.
Axthadans are currently grooming over three hundred semi-technological civilizations for induction into a universal family of civilizations. Sadly, Most of these civilizations will not make it.

The Pentagon is now in possession of extensive footage and information regarding life on their planet: Axthada. This planet has been described as being of great beauty and it’s civilization as ‘Utopian’ by earth’s standards.
It is now known that these aliens have issued earthlings with a warning: We have less than a decade to completely bring an end to all forms of warfare, racism, prejudice and economic exploitation. The Axthadans have sent messages stating that if we continue our evil ways we will destroy ourselves and this planet within fifty years.
In the event that aliens do disclose their presence to humanity and we continue to display any of these traits Planet Earth itself might have to be destroyed as a potential threat to universal harmony. In this scenario it is believed that innocent human victims of exploitation as well as other species will be resettled elsewhere.
In an ironic twist Axthadans are communicating with groups seen as perpetrators. As such immense pressure has been placed on the US administration. A decision was made to allow America’s economy to falter to allow for a redistribution of power and resources. Obviously the election of an African-American to the U.S Presidency was seen as a positive development by the Axthadans.
The question now is will this satisfy our alien custodians or will this be seen as mere window dressing? It is believed that the Axthadans mean business and will not tolerate any trace of the existing power-structure. Ego-driven and ultra-materialistic western culture seems slated for destruction.
Will Westerners adapt to a new reality where previously trodden on groups such as indigenous populations of countries like the US and Australia will perhaps be given leadership roles? Extraterrestrials have noted that the manner in which such groups were able to live for thousands of years in harmony with their environment translates into a safer, more peaceful universal existence. Western values of devour and destroy in an orgy of selfishness for the sole benefit of personal gain are said to be of immense concern to aliens.

It is this author's belief that the recent Chinese UFO event that took place during the solar eclipse (see here) involved a 'manned' Axthadan craft. This almost irrefutable sighting is being hailed by Chinese researchers as one of the most compelling ever. Does this brazen example of aliens deliberately exposing their own presence at a time when many looked skyward signal something? Are aliens looking to China to lead humanity towards its destiny? I have received a number of emails from well-known researchers and cover-up insiders noting that the US is indeed worried over alien interest in China and its more communitarian values. Curiously the Chinese eclipse UFO event has been totally ignored by Western nations, possibly not willing to admit its implications.

Does free-wheeling highly individualistic capitalism have a cosmic future or is it simply untenable and even dangerous when imposed on a much more complex paradigm: such as a universe?

It should be noted at this point that the author is not unaware of the massive advances capitalism has brought humanity, nor is this an op-ed piece for socialism; merely a summary of what appear to be the known issues facing civilizations that join a galactic or universal family of races. The 'Cosmic Capitalism' doctrine studied by NASA scientists and others suggests that self-interest is imprinted into all living things as a result of evolution. However as one goes up the food chain this self-interest, responsible as it is for so much progress, becomes more potentially dangerous and thus it becomes more important to balance this tendency with social restraints.

On a Galactic level this becomes a matter of the very survival of the universe: Hence not all races make the grade and are inducted to a wider family of civilizations.

We realise that many readers will find this information hard to believe, however for those who work on these issues on a daily basis it is all too real. Our sources are such individuals and we can reveal they are not just speaking to All News Web. Other publications have also been contacted.
In the words of Bob Dylan ‘The times they are a-changin’….again. Will humanity make the grade?


From my perspective, this is pretty much the case..and I don't get this from reading...It saddened's me to think some of the things indicated are a likely outcome for our world. How do you reach the guys that need it explained to them? There are other descriptions for species from Andromeda that we've personally encountered in the remote desert once a upon a time. Good looking people, some of them glowed light. Long white hair, names unpronounceable, and all business...

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Arctic Seas Turn to Acid, Putting Vital Food Chain at Risk
With the world's oceans absorbing six million tonnes of carbon a day, a leading oceanographer warns of eco disaster


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oc ... rn-to-acid

by Robin McKie

Carbon-dioxide emissions are turning the waters of the Arctic Ocean into acid at an unprecedented rate, scientists have discovered. Research carried out in the archipelago of Svalbard has shown in many regions around the north pole seawater is likely to reach corrosive levels within 10 years. The water will then start to dissolve the shells of mussels and other shellfish and cause major disruption to the food chain. By the end of the century, the entire Arctic Ocean will be corrosively acidic.

"This is extremely worrying," Professor Jean-Pierre Gattuso, of France's Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique, told an international oceanography conference last week. "We knew that the seas were getting more acidic and this would disrupt the ability of shellfish – like mussels – to grow their shells. But now we realise the situation is much worse. The water will become so acidic it will actually dissolve the shells of living shellfish."

Just as an acid descaler breaks apart limescale inside a kettle, so the shells that protect molluscs and other creatures will be dissolved. "This will affect the whole food chain, including the North Atlantic salmon, which feeds on molluscs," said Gattuso, speaking at a European commission conference, Oceans of Tomorrow, in Barcelona last week. The oceanographer told delegates that the problem of ocean acidification was worse in high latitudes, in the Arctic and around Antarctica, than it was nearer the equator.

"More carbon dioxide can dissolve in cold water than warm," he said. "Hence the problem of acidification is worse in the Arctic than in the tropics, though we have only recently got round to studying the problem in detail."

About a quarter of the carbon dioxide pumped into the atmosphere by factories, power stations and cars now ends up being absorbed by the oceans. That represents more than six million tonnes of carbon a day.

This carbon dioxide dissolves and is turned into carbonic acid, causing the oceans to become more acidic. "We knew the Arctic would be particularly badly affected when we started our studies but I did not anticipate the extent of the problem," said Gattuso.

His research suggests that 10% of the Arctic Ocean will be corrosively acidic by 2018; 50% by 2050; and 100% ocean by 2100. "Over the whole planet, there will be a threefold increase in the average acidity of the oceans, which is unprecedented during the past 20 million years. That level of acidification will cause immense damage to the ecosystem and the food chain, particularly in the Arctic," he added.

The tiny mollusc Limacina helicina, which is found in Arctic waters, will be particularly vulnerable, he said. The little shellfish is eaten by baleen whales, salmon, herring and various seabirds. Its disappearance would therefore have a major impact on the entire marine food chain. The deep-water coral Lophelia pertusa would also be extremely vulnerable to rising acidity. Reefs in high latitudes are constructed by only one or two types of coral – unlike tropical coral reefs which are built by a large variety of species. The loss of Lophelia pertusa would therefore devastate reefs off Norway and the coast of Scotland, removing underwater shelters that are exploited by dozens of species of fish and other creatures.

"Scientists have proposed all sorts of geo-engineering solutions to global warming," said Gattuso. "For instance, they have proposed spraying the upper atmosphere with aerosol particles that would reduce sunlight reaching the Earth, mitigating the warming caused by rising levels of carbon dioxide.

"But these ideas miss the point. They will still allow carbon dioxide emissions to continue to increase – and thus the oceans to become more and more acidic. There is only one way to stop the devastation the oceans are now facing and that is to limit carbon-dioxide emissions as a matter of urgency."

This was backed by other speakers at the conference. Daniel Conley, of Lund University, Sweden, said that increasing acidity levels, sea-level rises and temperature changes now threatened to bring about irreversible loss of biodiversity in the sea. Christoph Heinze, of Bergen University, Norway, said his studies, part of the EU CarboOcean project, had found that carbon from the atmosphere was being transported into the oceans' deeper waters far more rapidly than expected and was already having a corrosive effect on life forms there.

The oceans' vulnerability to climate change and rising carbon-dioxide levels has also been a key factor in the launching of the EU's Tara Ocean project at Barcelona. The expedition, on the sailing ship Tara, will take three years to circumnavigate the globe, culminating in a voyage through the icy Northwest Passage in Canada, and will make continual and detailed samplings of seawater to study its life forms.

A litre of seawater contains between 1bn and 10bn single-celled organisms called prokaryotes, between 10bn and 100bn viruses and a vast number of more complex, microscopic creatures known as zooplankton, said Chris Bowler, a marine biologist on Tara.

"People think they are just swimming in water when they go for a dip in the sea," he said. "In fact, they are bathing in a plankton soup."

That plankton soup is of crucial importance to the planet, he added. "As much carbon dioxide is absorbed by plankton as is absorbed by tropical rainforests. Its health is therefore of crucial importance to us all."

However, only 1% of the life forms found in the sea have been properly identified and studied, said Bowler. "The aim of the Tara project is to correct some of that ignorance and identify many more of these organisms while we still have the chance. Issues like ocean acidification, rising sea levels and global warming will not be concerns at the back of our minds. They will be a key focus for the work that we do while we are on our expedition."
The toll by 2100

■ The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change forecast in 2007 that sea levels would rise by 20cm to 60cm by 2100 thanks to global warming caused by man-made carbon-dioxide emissions. This is now thought to be an underestimate, however, with most scientific bodies warning that sea levels could rise by a metre or even higher. Major inundations of vulnerable regions such as Bangladesh would ensue.



■ The planet will be hotter by 3C by 2100, most scientists now expect, though rises of 4.5C to 5C could be experienced. Deserts will spread and heatwaves will become more prevalent. Ice-caps will melt and cyclones are also likely to be triggered.



■ Weather patterns across the globe will become more unstable, numbers of devastating storms will increase dramatically while snow will disappear from all but the highest mountains.
© Guardian News and Media Limited 2009


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A story I found on http://www.allnewsweb.com/page9199196.php

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17 September 2009 - UFO Messages: Earth might be completely destroyed
Opinion by Michael Cohen m.cohen@allnewsweb.com


From my perspective, this is pretty much the case..and I don't get this from reading...It saddened's me to think some of the things indicated are a likely outcome for our world. How do you reach the guys that need it explained to them? There are other descriptions for species from Andromeda that we've personally encountered in the remote desert once a upon a time. Good looking people, some of them glowed light. Long white hair, names unpronounceable, and all business...


Uncle John here: I totally disagree with the proposition put forth by Michael Cohen and Dex, but then again, I totally disagree with needlessly duplication of complete posts in an other poster's response.

If any groups of sentient beings need to be wiped off the face of the universe it is those offworlders controlling humanity. They are the ones failing the bigger test!

"The guys that need it explained to them" are not humans.


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