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Highly suspect F-14s are not F-14s. The Navy retired the Grumman F-14 Tomcats from the fleet on 22 September 2006 and sent them beyond mothball to destruction because greed had raised it's ugly head and replacement parts were being black marketed and sent off to Iran (whom we had in fact sold them to when the Shah held power). Rather than find current American or Israeli pilots and equipment going up against one of the best fighter bombers ever built, our Military Industrial Complex ground the entire stock of birds and all their spare pieces and supply chain into little shreds to make Pepsi cans and satellite TV dishes and then just bumped up the order numbers of the next generation of flying gun/bomb platforms to fill the hole in inventory.
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So, whatever is attributed to be escorting said escort is not likely U.S. equipment unless this is video that has surfaced well aged and kept way down low in the ensuing five plus years. Could be Iranian, Russian. or Chinese or one of their surrogates' equipment if this is genuine I suppose. Everyone stole the plans and the platform including Hollywood, and stuffed the copies into their inventory. lol. They sure look like cats and Lord knows I've seen that silhouette a thousand times, but it just isn't likely Toms trailing that disk.

I'm not a fighter pilot but I spent a lot of hours in a Combat Tomcat Ready Room and learned a lot of fighter doctrine working for the best gunfighters in the Navy a long time ago and subsequently know that the formation in the vid is all wrong as well. Not the way fighters "escort" vehicles either friendly or not. The formation would be a bird on the flank of the 'target' and the other bird would be well behind and pointing a hot weapons system right on and up the ass of both 'tally-ho' and wing-man. There are no glory moments, mistakes, or breaking of 'bounce' protocol or (combat air patrol, CAP) procedures in the non-Horrywoood U.S. Navy.

The Marines, Air Force, Army and Coast Guard never bought any of these. Price tag was way out in left field when this stuff was new. Mission specific to aircraft carriers.

I have to call foul ball gang.
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Great to see you Grist! I checked the Wiki and found that Iran's mad muslims are supposedly the only other entity outside the US military that uses them these days:

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The F-14 was retired from the active U.S. Navy fleet on 22 September 2006, having been replaced by the Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet.[2] As of 2009, the F-14 was only in service with the Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force, having been exported to Iran in 1976 when the US had amicable diplomatic relations with the nation.


The silhouette matches up, alright:

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But then so does the F-15 Eagle; both have twin tail fins and a swept-back look (ignoring for a moment the adjustable wing-sweep on the F-14 Tomcat):

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The F-16 Fighting Falcon is single-tail fin, and though the F-17 Cobra has twin tail-fins, its wings are bereft of engines. Still, the F-18 Super Hornet might also qualify, if I'm not mistaken:

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Are y'all absolutely certain those are F-14 Tomcats, and even if so, is it possible this video was a cgi operation?

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fucanelli, I haven't forgotten your question. Thank you for the disclaimer otherwise I'd object to the premise, but I'll have a go at it shortly. My take in brief is that since we're here in a state of 'cultivation' and therefore of necessity under quarantine from our galactic neighbors lest they warp our development, as what had started to happen under the (temporary) dominion of the Annunaki, it's really almost unfair to phrase the question thusly. It would still be the case whether or not we had the alien involvement I firmly believe we've had. (By "we" I mean the state of current humanity.) Strictly my opinion of course, though shared by a few I know. It's almost a moot point, asking if we're "ready" to join the galactic brotherhood when our entire existence of "capture the flag" is based on the acquisition of as many toys and creature comforts as well as power and control over the levers of civilization of the material world. Some of us could be lucky enough to be artists after a fashion of sorts, and would be happy just to have their 'art' appreciated by as many people as possible. I don't think our post-graduate phase will see us as anything like our current incarnation, where largely selfish and cruel men control most facets of our lives. Once we've gone through the process under which our more selfish brethren have their grip loosened, and humanity governs itself in a true meritocracy and brotherhood of love, then it would be time to come back and ask the question.

Okay, I'll have to put the rest on hold mainly because I wanted to point out how we/I almost fell victim to the "Russian scientists" that I posted about recently. Seems like virtually EVERYONE in the "lunatic fringe" community was also re-broadcasting that 'press release' put out by the prestigious Russian cosmonaut, at the same time. Everyone picked up on it in the vacuum of 'real' news, and yet......something wasn't quite right. It SEEMS to validate a landscape that would result once the so-called "7 of 10" goes down. The home website for the operation, ourtransition.info, has a "Warning!" pop-up when you first go there, warning that the first big 'pre-cataclysm' will happen between Aug. 25th and Sept. 5th, 2011. Unless of course it doesn't, in which case the Russian scientists will come back later with further instructions they've "decoded" from crop circles, which involves them using a special "key" they were supposedly given in their "channeling".

What's worse, or rather, the real reason for them "piggy-backing" on NL/ZT is to deflect any anger that might come down on the elite (check out all the flags and translations of these "crop circle information transmissions" in most languages of the world, a la Nancy Lieder and ZT). Check out the front page, in which they say:

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The Transition will not affect private property
Unification of mankind consciousness for the Transition in the next cycle of life will not affect nobody's private property.


Really now? The poleshift will just come and go and everyone will still hold titles to land (and have access to constabulary powers to make sure no-one encroaches)? Is that it? Why the need to be so re-assuring, and so ironically from a group of people who lived under an officially communist regime? What's up with that?

So you click on the picture of the cute lil' European castle next to that blurb above, and if you're using Google Chrome browser, it'll automatically ask if you want to translate the message from Russian into English. You click Yes, and you get this:

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Association of human consciousness to move into the next cycle of life will not affect anyone's private property.


There's this re-assuring picture, incongruously showing a squadron of (what, F-14 Tomcats?!) cruising comfortably over Cape Canaveral (or some huge American beehive on the ground; there's a massive US flag draped from a building in the background). And then at the bottom is an idealized painting, or water-color, of an idyllic scene with a fairy-tale castle in the center with a cute sailboat sailing down a stream with bright green lawns on the riverbanks....sigh......such a view of heaven, it just has to be a fairy-tale....and then you come to, and realize, "hey, this IS a fairty-tale! These people are talking about a huge earthquake and land rupture in the Pacific, South America, huge tsunamis in the Atlantic, etc.....the exact same ingredients in Zetatalk!"

What gives? Why is this group of "Russian scientists" (ironically in Nancy's age group and sharing her gender, which is rare among prophets and seers) coming out now, blitzing the "conspiracy-theory" forums and basically echoing Nancy Lieder? Talking up not only how they channeled "good" aliens but were given "translations" for crop circles, and then this bit that should appeal to many 'Christian' truthseekers:

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Through synchronization of consciousness to resurrection

In the moment of synchronous unification of consciousness a laser beam will arise. It will remove our body from the level of global cataclysms. Simultaneously we will re-appear on the Highest level of the material world with holographic body. This process is known as the resurrection. So, we will pass in the cycle of Correction where there are only two gradations - hell and paradise.


So now we know their agenda! Same as it ever was, selfishness for salvation! There's a resurrection in store for us, for some of us anyway, when we pass through the "cycle of Correction" and are separated into those of us going to hell and those to paradise. Now there are elements of that basic theology that I'm sure will be true - there being no moral relativism; actions are either towards the light or towards the dark, even if they aren't the most enlightened or the most nefarious. But it seems clear to me now that this effort, that enlisted the name recognition of a genuine national hero, isn't of the most enlightened spirit. The participants, the active principals making the videos and writing the books and running the website with all its translations, may have a genuine wish to assist in the coming tribulation, but they look more like apologists than true seers that are only bent on assisting humanity survive. They say all the right things, and then some. They seem to have twisted existing predictions, but what's so laughable is that they have this "Warning!" that says it'll happen in this very precise window of time, but it may not happen at all. But if it doesn't happen then, they'll announce details later about the "postponed date". (After, of course, they get the latest ZT on Saturdays just like the rest of the public..... so they can then co-opt it and offer it to those people who aren't accepting of some crazy old woman on a farm in Wisconsin that actually talks telepathically to aliens that hang out on her second floor in the fourth dimension.)

We should've seen them coming. There'll be more "piggy-backers" in the near future, too, I'll bet. Just a suspicion I have. Take special note of the details in their prediction:

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Therefore, the beginning of global cataclysms is undefined floating date. The possibility of determining this point cause profound doubt. However, as this certainty still is designated and marked by the end of the Mayan calendar, it is obvious that this date is due to artificial factors. Thus, the beginning of global disasters is not natural process, but will be artificially caused.
Since disasters are not natural, but artificial they can not be identified by scientists, i.e., in the nature will not occur any processes that accompany the onset of usually natural phenomena such as compression or easing of Earth crust. If so, then the start of artificial catastrophes can only be pointed by extraterrestrial civilizations.
On artificial origin also point equal intervals between the three preliminary cataclysms, indicated places of their origin, as well as the main direction of natural blow.
Hence, three pre-cataclysms, as three signals before starting.


Wow, looks like one area noticeably absent from NL/ZT's scenario, the east coast of north America, is actually going to be the focal point for the first "pre-cataclysm"!

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The main blow of the first pre-cataclysm will be directed to the eastern coast of North America

Both preliminary, and global cataclysms would be started by themselves. However, the number of pre-cataclysms would not be three, but much more, and they would arise randomly, unexpectedly for humanity. And then on the remaining population scattered on the planet, would put the knockout blow of global cataclysms, destroying the once great, but very self-confident civilization of Earth, not knowing the laws of the universe.


But here they seem to be acknowledging that the big reason so many will perish is precisely because they DO want to hold onto 'private property':

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Humanity of Earth, first passing through a similar situation does not even imagine about the events of the near future. Unwarned humanity, surely will be perished in global cataclysms, because without knowing the scenario, people of Earth until the last moments will be holding for the private property.
That's why extraterrestrials are very concerned about the fact that humanity of Earth must be widely informed about the scenario of future events. Earth mankind have to realize that nothing can be changed. Impossible! This is a manifestation of the nature of the planet.
There is no immortality on Earth, so why should we try to make immortal of our planet. This is planet Earth’ age. It is quite decent and well-deserved.


Uh-oh, looks like we're going to have to get to that "unity of consciousness" before the 2nd 'pre-cataclysm' occurs!

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Extraterrestrial civilizations have clearly shown, where will happen three preliminary catastrophes, as well as the loss of people’ life. On the other hand, extraterrestrials clearly indicated that mankind will be able to make the Transition only before the second cataclysm, because the number of remaining people will be insufficient to cause the laser beam, as the start mechanism of the Transition.
Thus, humankind is warned, and, consequently, the future depends on us.


But here, in their press release that started this latest hub-ub, their specifics seem to parallel exactly ZT's "7 of 10" but more likely parody them; the big effect of the Atlantic tsunami will be the east coast of the US, NOT the west coast of Europe:

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The first of these pre-cataclysms is imminent – an extraordinary event which surpasses all natural powers known by humanity. The scientists claim a catastrophic seismic event will emanate from the west coast of Peru in the area of the Brazilian Magnetic Anomaly at the intersection of the Humboldt and the El Ni?o currents in the Pacific Ocean. An area of the United States from the Gulf of Mexico to the Great Lakes will be inundated as a result of a tsunami. According to prophecy of Edgar Cayce – famous American prophet – during several minutes the waters of the Mexican Golf will joint with Great Lakes.

This catastrophe will have a devastating impact on the whole central and south Pacific region, with the likelihood of mega-tsunamis hitting the Eastern seaboard of New Zealand and Australia. The tsunami may even affect the north-western coast of Africa and the shores of Western Europe, but the brunt of the cataclysm will focus on Eastern coast of North America.


No mention of Indonesia, Singpore, etc, just the tsunamis that will hit 'Down Under'. Hmmmm. Maybe they're just trying to freak fre33k out...... :whistle

all above quotes from http://www.ourtransition.info/

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Post Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 6.0 2011
fulcanelli wrote:
Would Contact with Extraterrestrials Benefit or Harm Humanity? A Scenario Analysis

By Seth D. Baum, Jacob D. Haqq-Misra & Shawn D. Domagal-Goldman

While humanity has not yet observed any extraterrestrial intelligence (ETI), contact with ETI remains possible. Contact could occur through a broad range of scenarios that have varying consequences for humanity. However, many discussions of this question assume that contact will follow a particular scenario that derives from the hopes and fears of the author. In this paper, we analyze a broad range of contact scenarios in terms of whether contact with ETI would benefit or harm humanity. This type of broad analysis can help us prepare for actual contact with ETI even if the details of contact do not fully resemble any specific scenario.

read the full report, here (pdf format):
http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1104/1104.4462.pdf



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Even if you already know that ETI has been observed/in contact/or even treaty-bound with TPTB of humanity, decide for yourself whether this report has any merit (perhaps by scientists not in the know) or is your typical disinfo, courtesy of TPTB, bought & paid for with your tax dollars.

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As I suggested earlier fulcanelli, I'm revisiting this question becaise it's not as trivial as it might seem. Despite the evidence that exists for ongoing interactions between humans and aliens, it hasn't permeated to the lowest comic denominator (LCD) yet, and there's a reason why it's now the subject of musing by mainstream pundits: the Establishment wants to know what 'you' think, and in keeping with their dictum that all such weighty subjects as this be introduced for public discussion by academic pooh-bahs with sufficient sheepskin to their name, the above pdf is put out by three researchers from one of the most well-known party schools of all time, Penn State. It was then picked up by the mainstream CNET, albeit with a tongue-in-cheek headline.....they simply couldn't resist, what with the ridicule factor still holding them in thrall:

from http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20094 ... our-gases/

Quote:
Report: Aliens might destroy us because of our gases


:roll That's just a hair away from a fart joke.

The reporter then proves his own ignorance by the way he presumes extraterrestrials come in primary and secondary colors; no mention of 'gray', of course:

Chris Matyszczyk for CNET wrote:
The report suggests that it's just remotely, theoretically possible that the green, blue, and orange beings out there might notice that we're sending out a lot more greenhouse gases.


Then he assures us he's taking the usual route of assuming aliens are just like us, out meandering around the galaxy like we would take a road trip into the Outback or the great American southwest:

Quote:
In essence, aliens might turn out to be highly cool dudes who only want to learn how to play croquet, make baked Alaska, and teach us how to zap political or social opponents with just a laser emerging from a fingernail.


And then we wonder why we're under "quarantine"! If this is how our 'best and brightest' in the media reports on such a weighty issue, it's now wonder our elders are enforcing a Coverup; the truth is though that this dimbulb reporter isn't as representative as he'd like to think - most polls and surveys show that a majority of the public (in the US, anyway) is convinced the gov't. is hiding the truth about aliens from them.....they also believe aliens, and the UFOs they travel around in, are very real.

But to the heart of the study. The one possibility the researchers offer up in their scenario of "beneficial, neutral, and harmful" likens us (Earth and its inhabitants) to a zoo:

Quote:
There are several scenarios in which ETI could be invisible to us in the sense that we do not
detect the presence of any ETI. All of these scenarios assume that ETI do in fact exist, but we do
not detect their presence, perhaps because we are physically unable to do so. As far as humanity
is concerned, invisible extraterrestrials could be no different than non-existent extraterrestrials if
they both have no impact on us. This scenario would be completely neutral to us. However, it is
not necessarily the case that an invisible ETI would have no impact on us.
One invisibility scenario involves ETI that intentionally hide from us. This corresponds to the
Zoo Hypothesis of the Fermi paradox. ETI could have the capability of hiding from us given the
likelihood of their superior technology, and there are many ways that ETI could remain
undetected by us if it chooses to do so. The simplest approach would be to hide among the
asteroids and observe us at a distance
[51-54]. In this case, such ETI will cease to be invisible to
us when we have searched enough of the asteroid belt to detect signs of their presence, such as
mining on asteroids [55-57], excess infrared radiation from spacecraft [7,58], or intelligent
conversational space probes [59]. A more sophisticated approach would eliminate all outgoing
electromagnetic signals by to hide any signatures of its presence, and ETI with even greater
technological prowess could engineer a virtual planetarium surrounding Earth so that we are
forced to observe an empty universe [60].


If they could bring themselves to add in a "kindergarten hypothesis", I'd take it more seriously, but it appears that this 'study' is simply to drag a reluctant populace into thinking about the possibility of encountering extraterrestrial life; instead of hiding behind the Brookings Institution, this 'study' is a more pro-active approach that in portions of the text subtly seems to suggest that the religious pre-conceptions of the fundamentalist populations of earth are probably the single biggest obstacle to having open contact with ET. (And nowhere would there be an admission that the Establishment has used said fundamentalism to their own benefit, hiding behind it themselves in order to keep the 'Secrets' among a few select and privileged individuals.) What makes the above snip so funny is the idea that they're hiding among the asteroids (you-hoo!!! come out come out wherever you are!!! we know you're out there!!!). Ironically, the alleged base of the zetas that purposefully crashed their ships near Roswell IS alleged to be located in the asteroid belt, if one believes not only NL/ZT but the "Alien Interview" they acknowledged was a truthful account by the lone survivor of that event. (That would also be what's symbolized by the white egg-shaped feature on the back of the Swiss 10-franc note that shows the solar system inclusive of the - ahem - 'great comet of the ages'.) Nowhere does the study seem to acknowledge the probability that humanity itself is the product of eons of genetic engineering by our 'gardeners', our 'soul ranchers' (angels, arch-angels, seraphim, 'spirit guides', ETs, etc), and that we are constantly being monitored and guided in order to cultivate tempered souls for placement in the higher dimensions to do the very job those 'genetic engineers' and other spiritual entities must do for developing worlds. But that should come as no surprise, because such secular ventures as this academic study are usually devoid of any in-depth discussion of theology and spirituality. Science and religion are rigidly kept at a distance from each other, lest they synthesize and really provoke a few nervous breakdowns. Those are issues best left to the History Channel.

That's "jest my too sense", fulcanelli. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

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Dondep wrote:
fulcanelli wrote:
Would Contact with Extraterrestrials Benefit or Harm Humanity? A Scenario Analysis

By Seth D. Baum, Jacob D. Haqq-Misra & Shawn D. Domagal-Goldman

While humanity has not yet observed any extraterrestrial intelligence (ETI), contact with ETI remains possible. Contact could occur through a broad range of scenarios that have varying consequences for humanity. However, many discussions of this question assume that contact will follow a particular scenario that derives from the hopes and fears of the author. In this paper, we analyze a broad range of contact scenarios in terms of whether contact with ETI would benefit or harm humanity. This type of broad analysis can help us prepare for actual contact with ETI even if the details of contact do not fully resemble any specific scenario.

read the full report, here (pdf format):
http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1104/1104.4462.pdf



-=== -=== -===

Even if you already know that ETI has been observed/in contact/or even treaty-bound with TPTB of humanity, decide for yourself whether this report has any merit (perhaps by scientists not in the know) or is your typical disinfo, courtesy of TPTB, bought & paid for with your tax dollars.

Regards,
fulcanelli



As I suggested earlier fulcanelli, I'm revisiting this question becaise it's not as trivial as it might seem. Despite the evidence that exists for ongoing interactions between humans and aliens, it hasn't permeated to the lowest comic denominator (LCD) yet, and there's a reason why it's now the subject of musing by mainstream pundits: the Establishment wants to know what 'you' think, and in keeping with their dictum that all such weighty subjects as this be introduced for public discussion by academic pooh-bahs with sufficient sheepskin to their name, the above pdf is put out by three researchers from one of the most well-known party schools of all time, Penn State. It was then picked up by the mainstream CNET, albeit with a tongue-in-cheek headline.....they simply couldn't resist, what with the ridicule factor still holding them in thrall:

from http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20094 ... our-gases/

Quote:
Report: Aliens might destroy us because of our gases


:roll That's just a hair away from a fart joke.

The reporter then proves his own ignorance by the way he presumes extraterrestrials come in primary and secondary colors; no mention of 'gray', of course:

Chris Matyszczyk for CNET wrote:
The report suggests that it's just remotely, theoretically possible that the green, blue, and orange beings out there might notice that we're sending out a lot more greenhouse gases.


Then he assures us he's taking the usual route of assuming aliens are just like us, out meandering around the galaxy like we would take a road trip into the Outback or the great American southwest:

Quote:
In essence, aliens might turn out to be highly cool dudes who only want to learn how to play croquet, make baked Alaska, and teach us how to zap political or social opponents with just a laser emerging from a fingernail.


And then we wonder why we're under "quarantine"! If this is how our 'best and brightest' in the media reports on such a weighty issue, it's now wonder our elders are enforcing a Coverup; the truth is though that this dimbulb reporter isn't as representative as he'd like to think - most polls and surveys show that a majority of the public (in the US, anyway) is convinced the gov't. is hiding the truth about aliens from them.....they also believe aliens, and the UFOs they travel around in, are very real.

But to the heart of the study. The one possibility the researchers offer up in their scenario of "beneficial, neutral, and harmful" likens us (Earth and its inhabitants) to a zoo:

Quote:
There are several scenarios in which ETI could be invisible to us in the sense that we do not
detect the presence of any ETI. All of these scenarios assume that ETI do in fact exist, but we do
not detect their presence, perhaps because we are physically unable to do so. As far as humanity
is concerned, invisible extraterrestrials could be no different than non-existent extraterrestrials if
they both have no impact on us. This scenario would be completely neutral to us. However, it is
not necessarily the case that an invisible ETI would have no impact on us.
One invisibility scenario involves ETI that intentionally hide from us. This corresponds to the
Zoo Hypothesis of the Fermi paradox. ETI could have the capability of hiding from us given the
likelihood of their superior technology, and there are many ways that ETI could remain
undetected by us if it chooses to do so. The simplest approach would be to hide among the
asteroids and observe us at a distance
[51-54]. In this case, such ETI will cease to be invisible to
us when we have searched enough of the asteroid belt to detect signs of their presence, such as
mining on asteroids [55-57], excess infrared radiation from spacecraft [7,58], or intelligent
conversational space probes [59]. A more sophisticated approach would eliminate all outgoing
electromagnetic signals by to hide any signatures of its presence, and ETI with even greater
technological prowess could engineer a virtual planetarium surrounding Earth so that we are
forced to observe an empty universe [60].


If they could bring themselves to add in a "kindergarten hypothesis", I'd take it more seriously, but it appears that this 'study' is simply to drag a reluctant populace into thinking about the possibility of encountering extraterrestrial life; instead of hiding behind the Brookings Institution, this 'study' is a more pro-active approach that in portions of the text subtly seems to suggest that the religious pre-conceptions of the fundamentalist populations of earth are probably the single biggest obstacle to having open contact with ET. (And nowhere would there be an admission that the Establishment has used said fundamentalism to their own benefit, hiding behind it themselves in order to keep the 'Secrets' among a few select and privileged individuals.) What makes the above snip so funny is the idea that they're hiding among the asteroids (you-hoo!!! come out come out wherever you are!!! we know you're out there!!!). Ironically, the alleged base of the zetas that purposefully crashed their ships near Roswell IS alleged to be located in the asteroid belt, if one believes not only NL/ZT but the "Alien Interview" they acknowledged was a truthful account by the lone survivor of that event. (That would also be what's symbolized by the white egg-shaped feature on the back of the Swiss 10-franc note that shows the solar system inclusive of the - ahem - 'great comet of the ages'.) Nowhere does the study seem to acknowledge the probability that humanity itself is the product of eons of genetic engineering by our 'gardeners', our 'soul ranchers' (angels, arch-angels, seraphim, 'spirit guides', ETs, etc), and that we are constantly being monitored and guided in order to cultivate tempered souls for placement in the higher dimensions to do the very job those 'genetic engineers' and other spiritual entities must do for developing worlds. But that should come as no surprise, because such secular ventures as this academic study are usually devoid of any in-depth discussion of theology and spirituality. Science and religion are rigidly kept at a distance from each other, lest they synthesize and really provoke a few nervous breakdowns. Those are issues best left to the History Channel.

That's "jest my too sense", fulcanelli. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.



These guys are not too smart! We have had contact with ET since the start of history. The results is US! We here on the GT. We are the ones who have learned from them. We can think outside the box, while the other guys are still forming make beleve theories. Just ask any one who has been TAKEN and they will tell you that aliens are real and they are here to stay! No need for makebelive. The problem with most people is that they think that some one with a DR. or a PHD or a BS. at the start of their name is not only more wise but is an athority on just about anything you can dream up, and has the last word! They come up with new words that you can't spell to describe what we already know. It is OK to have quantum anything thay say. But when we say anything can happen, we here on the GT are told by them that that is not possable! Just like TPTB, they(think tanks) have a clic. And if you do not belong to the club you will never be right, never get rich, never have anything of value, and never pass goal and collect $200. Simply put we dont count as far as they ars concerned. Personaly I don't beleve anything that those in charge say. And when they don't know the answer they lie and just make something up. So why do we even listen th them? We here are much brighter then them. More then likely they come here to find out what is realy going on. Then run home to tell mommy, who suddenly comes up with a great idea on what it would be like to meet aliens. In short, would aliens be a benifet to humanty? Have they? NO! Because in this two tear system of humanity we are left out of the loop! We don't count!

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I've also seen a suggestion that some of the places storing the gold may not have enough to cover the quantities they are supposed to be storing - so that if everyone tried to do this then 'a problem' would result. I wonder whether any banks would send Chavez gold plated titanium?

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Venezuelan golden retreat could lead to dire trouble

http://rt.com/news/chavez-gold-return-consequences/

President Hugo Chavez wants all of Venezuela’s gold now held in European and American banks to be returned to Caracas. It would be the largest physical movement of gold in recent history.

Chavez said he is trying to protect his country from the financial woes on both sides of the Atlantic.

The move is in line with the nationalization of Venezuela’s gold industry. But Chavez has a broader plan to repatriate his country's gold bars and shift most of its cash reserves out of Western nations to political allies including China, Russia and Brazil.


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“This is an outright attack on the US, UK and the European Union as major financial markets, as major areas of safety to keep your gold

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if this could start a run on keeping gold in the US, UK, European Union and Switzerland

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ps: re: the focus on doom which seems so prevelent, maybe its the elite and those power-mongers who are of 'bad will' towards others realising that its THEIR doom which is impending - not that of the majority of people of good will?


Simon, there is some truth to what you're intimating here, in that the elite - who own much of the material wealth and infrastructure of our civilization, and thus have much more to lose than the average schmuck traipsing about their hometown haunts - are fearful of losing their perch. If you're in the penthouse suite in a residential hi-rise, obviously the crumbling of the structure would be more devastating to you than if you were on, say, the first floor....where you can get out more quickly and even if you jumped out a window, your fall wouldn't be so traumatic.

But having said that, I still think that much of what energizes the so-called "New Age" movement is this avoidance of even thinking about a future in which there won't be supermarkets overflowing with foods and goods, a future which is much more like that of their ancestors, where they'll be forced to work the land for their food and take an active role in running their social group - unable to simply lose themselves in an electronic la-la-land, as we can now. It calls to mind the two related concepts I've advanced here in the past, about the "politics of Wishful Thinking" and "being selfish for salvation". Yes, there WILL be a future for many that will be characterized by the "something wonderful" that Dan B. spoke about, but to get there we'll all be going through a severe 'tempering' process, just like pig iron must go through in order to become steel. There's an aversion, highly understandable, to even imagining the kind of chaos that will characterize the last weeks leading up to the poleshift; part of that is due to the vivid horror created by Hollywood in their many disaster movies - which no-one willingly wants to endure (that is, if you're sane), and part of it has to do with the many ideals we've been schooled to adhere to, to believe in; a multitude of Rosy Scenarios that have driven our best and brightest to create the electronic super-civilization we currently live in.

This aversion even extends to many of the ET intelligences that communicate with some of our 'contactees'....they simply don't want to be the bearers of bad news. Can you blame them? Aren't we the same way? Who among us is eager to tell our neighbor "you're about to be destroyed shortly - unless you leave your comfortable home and job"? Even when it comes to a doctor telling a patient they have only a 'few months' to live; the doctor doesn't relish those moments and prefers to avoid them, even to the extent of giving out false hope.

What seems to be true in every instance though is that once this planet has been cleaned of the overt selfishness, and those of good will and warm heart are allowed the opportunity to rebuild and construct a future free of the oppression that characterizes today's civilization, we really WILL experience "something wonderful" and will take our rightful place as galactic citizens no longer under quarantine. It's just that we're not going to get a 'free ride' from here to there.



Yes Don, there are many 'new agers' whose actions resemble human ostriches - they dont want to know of (or about) anything that they would call negative and would rather (metaphorically) stick their heads in the sand.

If I even broach the subject of 'geophysical upheavals' and that maybe people should be prepareing so I'm slammed as a 'doom and gloomer' and that I should be wary of what I ask for or think about, as I might attract it!

Maybe though in their thinking they are using a mindset from a higher order of civilisation where mental energies can create outcomes - and even physical objects? If my understanding is correct then this is the type of society the STO people will eventually have, with even buildings 'grown' under the metal direction of those who live there. These buildings would be formed of living crystalline materials, although I dont know whether the whole building is grown as one or still formed of / built by using crystalline 'sheets' in the same (thematic) way that we build large buildings using pre-cast concrete panels (etc) which are then craned in to position. Of course in the future there would be less need for cranes, as things will be levitated.

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http://www.thegoldenthread.info/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=3309

The link above is to Tropical Storm Irene in the Hurricane section.

If you live anywhere from Mobile, AL to East or West Coast Florida or the Carolinas, please pay particular attention to this thread.

Now is the time to begin your hurricane preps and get ready. The hurricane models are beginning to come into better agreement but it may be next Tuesday before they pinpoint a direct SE US hit.

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By Mary Joyce


Sky ships and military helicopters have been observed over a second secret entrance to the underground world of government/military Black Operations in Western North Carolina. This one is located beneath a Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) facility on a mountaintop in the Hendersonville area. We’ve dubbed the site “FAAT” because it’s so much more than an FAA facility.

From the air, FAAT looks like an abandoned nuclear silo, but don’t be fooled says Rebecca who lives near the facility. As if to confirm this, FAAT is “bleached out” on a Google satellite map of the area. Details clearly aren’t clear, while the adjacent map segment is “unbleached.”

We found all this intriguing, so two of us from the Sky Ship website met with Rebecca at her home on Sunday, June 27, 2010. It was an adventure just getting there. She lives at the end of a steep, narrow, gravel road with multiple hairpin curves. The road ends abruptly at the FAAT gate, but it’s another 30-minute hike to the actual site.

Helicopters over FAAT

“There are two distinct things that happened up here that are very odd,” says Rebecca. “One was in 1969 or 1970. It was night and there were helicopters flying up at the top of the mountain. They would hover over the mountaintop and drop earthmoving equipment. They had floodlights up there and worked all night long. The shape of the mountaintop changed overnight.

“The next morning, my husband and I hiked up to the site,” she continues. “It was like walking on a fresh grave. It was like they’d dug something up, taken it out, put something else in and covered it up. I don’t have a clue what it was. It was covered with sod.”

Explosion at FAAT

“The other very strange thing that happened up there was about five years ago,” says Rebecca. “I was up here alone and heard and felt an explosion inside the mountain. It shook the entire house and the mountain. At the time, I wasn’t sure if it was an earthquake or an explosion.”

She soon knew it had been an explosion when she saw an unmarked 18-wheeler being escorted by two unmarked white pick-up trucks, one in front and one behind, and a person walking beside the 18-wheeler.

“There was something huge on the trailer that was covered with a tarp,” she says. “They all went up the mountain and stayed up there all day. Late that afternoon, the three vehicles went back down the mountain with something on the trailer covered with a tarp. I was under the assumption they’d replaced whatever had blown up.”

Tire tracks disappear into wall

As if to emphasize this part of Rebecca’s story, a white Jeep Cherokee with a governmental seal on its door went by her home very, very slowly. It turned around at the end of the road and slowly went by her house again. We all shared a knowing chuckle and Rebecca continued.

“Back in the sixties, there was a vehicle that would come up every morning with three people in it,” says Rebecca. “The same vehicle would leave that night with three different people in it. They seemed to do three day shifts at the top of the mountain.
“There are a number of structures up there,” she adds. “I once managed to peak into one. I could see tire tracks go into a wall, so obviously something happened there - maybe an elevator behind the wall.”

Sky Ships over FAAT

“Most of sky ships I’ve seen here were round with a circular top and bottom -- very much like that one,” Rebecca says while pointing to Devon Heenan’s sky ship photo.

“Now I did see one at the bottom of the mountain by the side of a dirt road that was small,” she continues. “My husband stopped the car and we looked at it for probably two minutes. It was circular, like a big metal ball. It was about two feet across and had antennas sticking out from the top going in all directions. Some had little things on the ends and some didn’t. It was raised about eight inches to a foot off the ground on four wiry little legs. There were rows of lights going around the ball. If it had an equator, then there was a row of lights above and another row below that. The lights would move around the ball. I think it was remotely controlled because it was so small.

“When I started to open the car door to get out and investigate closer, my husband reached across, closed the door and said, ‘We’re out of here!’ When we returned from town it was gone.”

This Google satellite map of the FAAT facility appears 'bleached' so details are obscured.


See map on Google - http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=35.4 ... 6&t=h&z=19


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I've also seen a suggestion that some of the places storing the gold may not have enough to cover the quantities they are supposed to be storing - so that if everyone tried to do this then 'a problem' would result. I wonder whether any banks would send Chavez gold plated titanium?

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Venezuelan golden retreat could lead to dire trouble

http://rt.com/news/chavez-gold-return-consequences/

President Hugo Chavez wants all of Venezuela’s gold now held in European and American banks to be returned to Caracas. It would be the largest physical movement of gold in recent history.

Chavez said he is trying to protect his country from the financial woes on both sides of the Atlantic.

The move is in line with the nationalization of Venezuela’s gold industry. But Chavez has a broader plan to repatriate his country's gold bars and shift most of its cash reserves out of Western nations to political allies including China, Russia and Brazil.


<snip>

“This is an outright attack on the US, UK and the European Union as major financial markets, as major areas of safety to keep your gold

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if this could start a run on keeping gold in the US, UK, European Union and Switzerland

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actions such as this could very well be the triggers for grave geopolitical actions.”


Simon

Is the suspect gold, gold plated or titanium/gold amalgamated (mixed)?

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Yes Don, there are many 'new agers' whose actions resemble human ostriches - they dont want to know of (or about) anything that they would call negative and would rather (metaphorically) stick their heads in the sand.

If I even broach the subject of 'geophysical upheavals' and that maybe people should be prepareing so I'm slammed as a 'doom and gloomer' and that I should be wary of what I ask for or think about, as I might attract it!


That brings to mind this cartoon that I found that addresses the false hope some Christians have that they'll be "Raptured"; that because they dutifully go to church and pray daily, believe the dogma and the catma, eat the Host and drink the wine, they'll somehow be saved from the trauma that's only to punish the "unbelievers". While I do believe in a 'judgement day', I think it's more of an individualized affair, and will come after the cataclysmic opportunities we'll be presented with during which we'll be putting our beliefs and values to the ultimate test.


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fulcanelli wrote:
Would Contact with Extraterrestrials Benefit or Harm Humanity? A Scenario Analysis

By Seth D. Baum, Jacob D. Haqq-Misra & Shawn D. Domagal-Goldman

While humanity has not yet observed any extraterrestrial intelligence (ETI), contact with ETI remains possible. Contact could occur through a broad range of scenarios that have varying consequences for humanity. However, many discussions of this question assume that contact will follow a particular scenario that derives from the hopes and fears of the author. In this paper, we analyze a broad range of contact scenarios in terms of whether contact with ETI would benefit or harm humanity. This type of broad analysis can help us prepare for actual contact with ETI even if the details of contact do not fully resemble any specific scenario.

read the full report, here (pdf format):
http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1104/1104.4462.pdf



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Even if you already know that ETI has been observed/in contact/or even treaty-bound with TPTB of humanity, decide for yourself whether this report has any merit (perhaps by scientists not in the know) or is your typical disinfo, courtesy of TPTB, bought & paid for with your tax dollars.

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As I suggested earlier fulcanelli, I'm revisiting this question becaise it's not as trivial as it might seem. Despite the evidence that exists for ongoing interactions between humans and aliens, it hasn't permeated to the lowest comic denominator (LCD) yet, and there's a reason why it's now the subject of musing by mainstream pundits: the Establishment wants to know what 'you' think, and in keeping with their dictum that all such weighty subjects as this be introduced for public discussion by academic pooh-bahs with sufficient sheepskin to their name, the above pdf is put out by three researchers from one of the most well-known party schools of all time, Penn State. It was then picked up by the mainstream CNET, albeit with a tongue-in-cheek headline.....they simply couldn't resist, what with the ridicule factor still holding them in thrall:

from http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20094 ... our-gases/

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Report: Aliens might destroy us because of our gases


:roll That's just a hair away from a fart joke.


Uncle John here: What is the "lowest comic denominator (LCD)? That is too funny.

The real truth everybody seems to gloss over is that we are not humans. Our body is human, but our mind is pure alien. Just like the chapter "Mud Shadows" tell us. We are contacted by offworlders every time we have a thought or sensation.

Both, Sam Lewis and dan came up with similar finds that "humans are not interested in solutions to their problems unless they can own the process of coming up with the solution!" I'm becoming aware that our situation is much worse than that. It is the alien mind that controls our consciousness. This alien mind selects what we are able to perceive. These alien minds are truly after the "lowest comic denominator." We exist as entertainment and creativity for the vast offworlder collectives that are running the show. They have little motivation for letting humanity wake up. The keys for waking up are all in that little chapter, "Mud Shadows," yet no one seems able to pick it up.

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Dondep wrote:
fulcanelli wrote:
Would Contact with Extraterrestrials Benefit or Harm Humanity? A Scenario Analysis

By Seth D. Baum, Jacob D. Haqq-Misra & Shawn D. Domagal-Goldman

While humanity has not yet observed any extraterrestrial intelligence (ETI), contact with ETI remains possible. Contact could occur through a broad range of scenarios that have varying consequences for humanity. However, many discussions of this question assume that contact will follow a particular scenario that derives from the hopes and fears of the author. In this paper, we analyze a broad range of contact scenarios in terms of whether contact with ETI would benefit or harm humanity. This type of broad analysis can help us prepare for actual contact with ETI even if the details of contact do not fully resemble any specific scenario.

read the full report, here (pdf format):
http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1104/1104.4462.pdf



-=== -=== -===

Even if you already know that ETI has been observed/in contact/or even treaty-bound with TPTB of humanity, decide for yourself whether this report has any merit (perhaps by scientists not in the know) or is your typical disinfo, courtesy of TPTB, bought & paid for with your tax dollars.

Regards,
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As I suggested earlier fulcanelli, I'm revisiting this question becaise it's not as trivial as it might seem. Despite the evidence that exists for ongoing interactions between humans and aliens, it hasn't permeated to the lowest comic denominator (LCD) yet, and there's a reason why it's now the subject of musing by mainstream pundits: the Establishment wants to know what 'you' think, and in keeping with their dictum that all such weighty subjects as this be introduced for public discussion by academic pooh-bahs with sufficient sheepskin to their name, the above pdf is put out by three researchers from one of the most well-known party schools of all time, Penn State. It was then picked up by the mainstream CNET, albeit with a tongue-in-cheek headline.....they simply couldn't resist, what with the ridicule factor still holding them in thrall:

from http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20094 ... our-gases/

Quote:
Report: Aliens might destroy us because of our gases


:roll That's just a hair away from a fart joke.


Uncle John here: What is the "lowest comic denominator (LCD)? That is too funny.

The real truth everybody seems to gloss over is that we are not humans. Our body is human, but our mind is pure alien. Just like the chapter "Mud Shadows" tell us. We are contacted by offworlders every time we have a thought or sensation.

Both, Sam Lewis and dan came up with similar finds that "humans are not interested in solutions to their problems unless they can own the process of coming up with the solution!" I'm becoming aware that our situation is much worse than that. It is the alien mind that controls our consciousness. This alien mind selects what we are able to perceive. These alien minds are truly after the "lowest comic denominator." We exist as entertainment and creativity for the vast offworlder collectives that are running the show. They have little motivation for letting humanity wake up. The keys for waking up are all in that little chapter, "Mud Shadows," yet no one seems able to pick it up.

"I might be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride."



Uncle John, just to let you know, I agree with you. We are here for the entertainment of the gods, just like the Greeks said!

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Dex, As I understand it, a while ago the US sent some gold to another nation (China, I think) who drilled a small inspection hole in one of the bars and found that they had actually received gold plated titanium.

For Chavez they might wish to send something of simillarly lower value - or perhaps since he is such a thorn in the side he would be sent booby-trapped fake gold.


Don, love the cartoon. Yes, many who attend regular worship etc seem to think that they will be the ones who are 'saved' or raptured. Maybe some of them will, but in so mny ways its what they do the rest of the time which matters more.

As for judgement - and awakening, I think that it will be like a near-death experience where we have the type of life review which is normally experienced when we 'die'. We 'judge' as it were ourselves, but since we are (temporarily) on the other side we get to see what its all about and then 'return' with full memory of what transpired.


re the "Would Contact with Extraterrestrials Benefit or Harm Humanity" topic, since contact has already happened (etc etc etc) I see this as a diversion designed to keep the masses who are interested in such topics (which is not everyone) quiet. Telling the truth is still being stalled / put off for another day. Mind you, if its true that we humans are genetically modified apes then I can understand the fear of those who know this but have been suppressing it. What would such truth do to religion and the mental stability of so many believers?

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More on Chavez and Venezuela's gold:

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"'We want to protect our assets that belong to the Venezuelan people," said Nelson Merentes, president of Central Bank of Venezuela, according to the state-run AVN news agency. "We are going to do it gradually, using a technique used worldwide to bring the gold, because they are physical bars that were deposited and we must certify that they are the same ones."

Hmmm... how are they going to do that? More drilling holes?

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But at least one critic argued that Chavez was acting in his own self interest and placing the nation's resources at risk.

Roger Noriega, (I wonder if he is related to THE Noriega...) a former U.S. assistant secretary of state, urged Venezuelans to rally "to oppose the looting of the nation's savings" in a blog post on the website of the conservative American Enterprise Institute think tank.


AEI - American Enterprise Institute: AEI is the most prominent think tank associated with American neoconservatism, in both the domestic and international policy arenas.

Some AEI scholars are considered to be some of the leading architects of the second Bush administration's public policy.[7] More than twenty AEI scholars and fellows served either in a Bush administration policy post or on one of the government's many panels and commissions: John Bolton, Lynne Cheney, Newt Gingrich, Paul Wolfowitz,

Officers and trustees include: former vice president Dick Cheney; Daniel D'Aniello, cofounder of The Carlyle Group; Raymond Gilmartin, retired chairman and CEO of Merck & Co.; Harvey Golub, retired chairman and CEO of the American Express Company; among others.


I'm posting the info on the AEI because it seems that there is going to be a rush to try and cast Chavez as anti-Venezuelans, in hopes that the people would turn against him and try to keep him from gathering in their gold bars.... I wonder just how much actual gold is left where he thinks he put it.... :hmm and how countries he believes are holding it will avoid being caught out when they can't (or won't) return it to him. This will be interesting to follow.... And yes of course I believe he is being nudged into this stand by China, Russia, among others, to call out the US and other affiliated countries.

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Ruts, yes I agree about the gold.

How long before a country or a private bank is caught out?

:popcorn

I feel sure that the weebots talked about banks using people's valuables in safety deposit boxes to pay their debts (ie: confiscate the valuables which had been entrusted to them for safe keeping). What Chavez is doing could hasten the day this comes to pass ... even be a trigger for the day! :scared

As for AEI and what they are advocating in that blog... erm the kettle is calling the pot black?

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the time traveler wrote:
UncleJohn wrote:
....
The real truth everybody seems to gloss over is that we are not humans. Our body is human, but our mind is pure alien. Just like the chapter "Mud Shadows" tell us. We are contacted by offworlders every time we have a thought or sensation.
Both, Sam Lewis and 1)dan came up with similar finds that "humans are not interested in solutions to their problems unless they can own the process of coming up with the solution!" I'm becoming aware that our situation is much worse than that. It is the alien mind that controls our consciousness. This alien mind selects what we are able to perceive. These alien minds are truly after the "lowest comic denominator." We exist as entertainment and creativity for the vast offworlder collectives that are running the show. They have little motivation for letting humanity wake up. The keys for waking up are all in that little chapter, "Mud Shadows," yet no one seems able to pick it up.
....

Uncle John, just to let you know, I agree with you. We are here for the entertainment of the gods, just like the Greeks said!



:boom Wait a min!

That is a pretty big claim that the Universe views us as thrall slaves. :crazy

A thrall is someone in physical, mental, financial or even emotional slavery. :nono

The term originated in the Norse culture of old Earth, in the region of northern Europe once home to the Viking.

In its original context to be a thrall meant to be a slave or at best a serf. :headbang

A thrall toils exclusively for the benefit of a ruling class and live or die at their whim. :fu

Image

So just like Triskelion was ruled by a group of three powerful disembodied brains called the Providers. :banned

Do you believe that is the case on earth? :arsehole

#1) dan of SNED what a good source of truth ..... NOT :roflmao

What you are saying there is no freewill, liberty or pursuit of happiness EVER! :puter

With such a dark philosophy, then there is no Hope, love or purpose of existence . :flame

I believe thrall philosophy is held by the evil TPBe, STS and big wall street bankers. :censor

It is not the philosophy of the whole Universe or the One True Creator of Love! :dove

This it yet another mind Fu*k, a psyops of STS/PTBe.

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mountaintiger7 wrote:
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UncleJohn wrote:
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The real truth everybody seems to gloss over is that we are not humans. Our body is human, but our mind is pure alien. Just like the chapter "Mud Shadows" tell us. We are contacted by offworlders every time we have a thought or sensation.
Both, Sam Lewis and dan came up with similar finds that "humans are not interested in solutions to their problems unless they can own the process of coming up with the solution!" I'm becoming aware that our situation is much worse than that. It is the alien mind that controls our consciousness. This alien mind selects what we are able to perceive. These alien minds are truly after the "lowest comic denominator." We exist as entertainment and creativity for the vast offworlder collectives that are running the show. They have little motivation for letting humanity wake up. The keys for waking up are all in that little chapter, "Mud Shadows," yet no one seems able to pick it up.
....

Uncle John, just to let you know, I agree with you. We are here for the entertainment of the gods, just like the Greeks said!



:boom Wait a min!

That is a pretty big claim that the Universe views us as thrall slaves. :crazy

A thrall is someone in physical, mental, financial or even emotional slavery. :nono

The term originated in the Norse culture of old Earth, in the region of northern Europe once home to the Viking.

In its original context to be a thrall meant to be a slave or at best a serf. :headbang

A thrall toils exclusively for the benefit of a ruling class and live or die at their whim. :fu

Image

So just like Triskelion was ruled by a group of three powerful disembodied brains called the Providers. :banned

Do you believe that is the case on earth? :arsehole

What you are saying there is no freewill, liberty or pursuit of happiness EVER! :puter

With such a dark philosophy, then there is no Hope, love or purpose of existence . :flame

I believe thrall philosophy is held by the evil TPBe, STS and big wall street bankers. :censor

It is not the philosophy of the whole Universe or the One True Creator of Love! :dove

This it yet another mind Fu*k, a psyops of STS/PTBe.

Peace and Love,

MT7




MT7. You got it! Total slavery! We only think we are free. Look around at what is going on, on the planet. This is not bliss, it is hell! When your team wins the foot ball game it does not make the world right. It only makes your own personel world right. And that is usualy short lived when you reolize that if you are lucky enough to have a job that tomorrow you will have to go to work and take orders from the task master!

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Maybe though in their thinking they are using a mindset from a higher order of civilisation where mental energies can create outcomes - and even physical objects? If my understanding is correct then this is the type of society the STO people will eventually have, with even buildings 'grown' under the metal direction of those who live there. These buildings would be formed of living crystalline materials, although I dont know whether the whole building is grown as one or still formed of / built by using crystalline 'sheets' in the same (thematic) way that we build large buildings using pre-cast concrete panels (etc) which are then craned in to position. Of course in the future there would be less need for cranes, as things will be levitated.

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There's some truth to the theory that our mental energies CAN create certain outcomes, certainly so on a micro level, and though it doesn't mean we can levitate objects at will, we can attract others by radiating particular energies that our subconsciousness can 'read'. Supposedly we used to have certain powers of telepathy as well as telekinesis but rather than bemoan the fact they were taken away from us (and I firmly believe such issues are under the complete control of the Creator via various intermediaries), we should consider why we don't have them now. Perhaps 'Luciferians' resent this, this lack of access to higher powers that supposedly were part of 'our' DNA, but even if it were true, wouldn't it be akin to teenagers pouting that they can't have the keys to Dad's Mercedes? Is it perhaps possible that many of us are incarnated souls from 'elsewhere', banished for a time to this hell-hole of a planet to assist in the cultivation of terran-born souls? If so, would this be a punishment or an opportunity? A 'second-chance'?

The danger in thinking we have a mindset that's able to change outcomes is that it feeds in very well to that concept I call the "politics of Wishful Thinking", which is one of the pillars of Majestic 12's beloved "DCTP", in which Dan Burisch was allowed to declare victory by virtue of having enough of humanity pray hard enough that we avoided the poleshift, pray enough that we averted the dreaded "T2" timeline in which the poleshift would've occurred on March 28th, 2009. Who among us believes that today? That we somehow "missed" the poleshift because enough humans prayed hard enough? Even NL/ZT have acknowledged that it takes 89% of a planet's population achieving "Service-To-Other" status before it can ascend to 4th density. (Naturally they don't go into such details as how it is that the 'spirit guides' that control what bodies we incarnate into would have an obvious role in achieving that percentage......and that's a question they won't be answering any time too soon.) Clearly Earth hasn't achieved anything near that percentage, and on top of all that, it depends not on just quantity, but on just how much power and control the STO percentage exercises via political personalities and opinion-molding celebrities.

So yes, they're using a mindset alright, but is it one that recalls a "higher order of civilization" or just one that rationalizes Wishful Thinking? Or perhaps some of each? ;) :whistle

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UJ, the "LCD" {Lowest Comic Denominator} acronym is the lowest level of spiritual awareness that the average consciousness can endure without bursting out in uncontrollable laughter. At the present, people like Michele Bachmann represent the LCD, when the media can report (without breaking down into giggles, though Newsweek magazine came awfully close last week with its cover) on such gaffes Ms. Bachmann has made as confusing Elvis Presley's birthday with the anniversary of his death, her recent warnings on the "rise of the Soviet Union", and congratulating the residents of New Hampshire as having been the site of the battles of Lexington and Concord (that would be Massachusetts). Ms. Bachmann's base (at least those that follow her beliefs more than are enamored of her attractive looks) are Faux News viewers, and here we see the LCD on blatant display:

http://thinkprogress.org/media/2011/08/ ... ge-aliens/
Alex Seitz, for Think Progress, wrote:
Fox Viewers Overwhelmingly Think We Should Prepare For Alien Invasion Before Fighting Climate Change

By Alex Seitz-Wald on Aug 19, 2011 at 5:30 pm
A new (supposedly) NASA-funded study postulating that aliens may attack humans over climate change had all the ingredients for a perfect Fox faux controversy — it bolstered their anti-science narrative, painted their opponents as clownish radicals, and highlighted wasteful government spending on a supposedly liberal casue. Fox reported the “news from NASA” several times today, presenting it as official “taxpayer funded research.” A chyron on Fox and Friends read: “NASA: Global warming may provoke an [alien] attack.”
But as Business Insider pointed out, they’re “wrong” — “That report was not funded by NASA. It was written by an independent group of scientists and bloggers. One of those happens to work at NASA.” NASA distanced itself from the report as well, calling reports linking the agency to it “not true.” Host Megyn Kelly finally corrected the record this afternoon, saying, “I was making that up.”
But before she did, she was so bemused by the study that she directed her viewers to complete a poll on her website which asked how we should respond to the study: “Immediately increase efforts to curb greenhouse gases,” “Develop weapons to kill the Aliens FIRST,” or “Gently suggest scientists research how to create job.”
Not surprisingly, most suggested they research something else. But more than six times as many respondents (19 percent to 3 percent) said we should focus on building weapons to kill aliens before curbing greenhouse gases.



Sadly, those viewers might be a few steps ahead of their liberal counter-parts; if only they suggested humans should 'prepare psychologically for meeting aliens' instead of killing them, they would have a better handle on reality than the average reader of "Think Progress", IMHO.

Interesting how that PDF fulcanelli posted earlier is making the rounds; it's the paper that provoked the above poll apparently.

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Post Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 6.0 2011
the time traveler wrote:
This it yet another mind Fu*k, a psyops of STS/PTBe.
...
You got it! Total slavery! We only think we are free.
....


You my friend give up too easily.
: Think about it, there must be higher love
: Down in the heart or hidden in the stars above
: Without it, life is wasted time
: Look inside your heart, I'll look inside mine

: Things look so bad everywhere
: In this whole world, what is fair?
: We walk blind and we try to see
: Falling behind in what could be

: Bring me a higher love
: Bring me a higher love, oh
: Bring me a higher love
: Where's that higher love, I keep thinking of?

: Worlds are turning and we're just hanging on
: Facing our fear and standing out there alone
: A yearning, and it's real to me
: There must be someone who's feeling for me

: Things look so bad everywhere
: In this whole world, what is fair?
: We walk blind and we try to see
: Falling behind in what could be

: Bring me a higher love
: Bring me a higher love, oh
: Bring me a higher love
: Where's that higher love, I keep thinking of?

: Bring me a higher love
: Bring me a higher love, oh
: Bring me a higher love
: I could rise above on a higher love

: I will wait for it, I'm not too late for it
: Until then, I'll sing my song
: To cheer the night along

: I could light the night up with my soul on fire
: I could make the sun shine from pure desire
: Let me feel that love come over me
: Let me feel how strong it could be

: Bring me a higher love
: Bring me a higher love, oh
: Bring me a higher love
: Where's that higher love, I keep thinking of?

: Bring me a higher love
: Bring me a higher love, oh
: Bring me a higher love


Peace,
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Post Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 6.0 2011
mountaintiger7 wrote:
the time traveler wrote:
This it yet another mind Fu*k, a psyops of STS/PTBe.
...
You got it! Total slavery! We only think we are free.
....


You my friend give up too easily.
: Think about it, there must be higher love
: Down in the heart or hidden in the stars above
: Without it, life is wasted time
: Look inside your heart, I'll look inside mine

: Things look so bad everywhere
: In this whole world, what is fair?
: We walk blind and we try to see
: Falling behind in what could be

: Bring me a higher love
: Bring me a higher love, oh
: Bring me a higher love
: Where's that higher love, I keep thinking of?

: Worlds are turning and we're just hanging on
: Facing our fear and standing out there alone
: A yearning, and it's real to me
: There must be someone who's feeling for me

: Things look so bad everywhere
: In this whole world, what is fair?
: We walk blind and we try to see
: Falling behind in what could be

: Bring me a higher love
: Bring me a higher love, oh
: Bring me a higher love
: Where's that higher love, I keep thinking of?

: Bring me a higher love
: Bring me a higher love, oh
: Bring me a higher love
: I could rise above on a higher love

: I will wait for it, I'm not too late for it
: Until then, I'll sing my song
: To cheer the night along

: I could light the night up with my soul on fire
: I could make the sun shine from pure desire
: Let me feel that love come over me
: Let me feel how strong it could be

: Bring me a higher love
: Bring me a higher love, oh
: Bring me a higher love
: Where's that higher love, I keep thinking of?

: Bring me a higher love
: Bring me a higher love, oh
: Bring me a higher love


Peace,
MT7



MT7 I am an ex paratrooper, I NEVER give up! I just see it like it is. Nice song!

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What you are saying there is no freewill, liberty or pursuit of happiness EVER! :puter

With such a dark philosophy, then there is no Hope, love or purpose of existence . :flame

I believe thrall philosophy is held by the evil TPBe, STS and big wall street bankers. :censor

It is not the philosophy of the whole Universe or the One True Creator of Love! :dove
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This it yet another mind Fu*k, a psyops of STS/PTBe.

MT7. You got it! Total slavery! We only think we are free. Look around at what is going on, on the planet. This is not bliss, it is hell! When your team wins the foot ball game it does not make the world right. It only makes your own personel world right. And that is usualy short lived when you reolize that if you are lucky enough to have a job that tomorrow you will have to go to work and take orders from the task master!

Uncle John here: Freewill is not a simple yes or no. I have more freewill than my dog because I have more knowledge and options.

Our knowledge of the universe is very limited and this limitation is enforced by offworlders. Our options are also limited. Most humans have no option of viewing an event like 9/11 with any clarity. Their minds are blocked from considering a thought such as what brought down the World Trade Center 7 building. I've tried to point out WTC7 to many intelligent humans and most all can't seem to get their mind around this very simple thought.

Most humans have enough freewill to select when and where to scratch oneself and which hand to use to do it.

I've known for a long time techniques on how to expand the scope of your mind but I've never had another human desire to have me explain it to them.

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Don / All - all this killing Aliens and War on ET's hype is just building steam up on the last bastion for the Elites agenda to use this as flase flag events and spending camapaigns (if there is any cash left!) on war technology to achieve their world domination regime plan - now that the war on TERROR is drawing to a climax/close??!?!

Jest my one cents opinion....

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UncleJohn wrote:
Most humans have enough freewill to select when and where to scratch oneself and which hand to use to do it.



:roflmao


Come-on UJ, give us a few pointers on that mental sharpening!! I love good pov's on doing just that!

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the time traveler wrote:
mountaintiger7 wrote:
This it yet another mind Fu*k, a psyops of STS/PTBe.

MT7. You got it! Total slavery! We only think we are free.

Uncle John here: Freewill is not a simple yes or no. I have more freewill than my dog because I have more knowledge and options.

Our knowledge of the universe is very limited and this limitation is enforced by offworlders. Our options are also limited. Most humans have no option of viewing an event like 9/11 with any clarity. Their minds are blocked from considering a thought such as what brought down the World Trade Center 7 building. I've tried to point out WTC7 to many intelligent humans and most all can't seem to get their mind around this very simple thought.
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UJ, your statements of
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"It is the alien mind that controls our consciousness."
"This alien mind selects what we are able to perceive"
"our mind is pure alien"

The definition of the word "PURE" is something that is 100% composed of a single type.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pure
Therefore IF our minds are 100% alien there is no mind of our own.
In math Something can never be over a 100%
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percentage
when people say 110% this is a urban exaggeration like "give it a 110%"
Or is it common reference to some improvement relative to a previous point where the whole is not known.

These statements imply total mind control.
We are but robots with out our own thoughts.
QED: there is no freewill at all!
Even the matrix would be preferable, as the red pill exists.

"We exist as entertainment and creativity for the vast offworlder"
I take offense at this statement since it show disrespect for life and any freewill, and I believe it to untrue.

"freewill to select when and where to scratch oneself"
You are confusing Freewill with the definition of liberty which is “the power of acting or of not acting, according to the determination of the will.”
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/freewill/
"I have more freewill than my dog because I have more knowledge and options"
Again this is not the definition of Freewill which is the apparent ability of agents to make choices free from certain kinds of constraints.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_will
Your dog may have more unconsciousness to the great Universe than you, would be a more accurate statement.


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