L2L, I don't recall ever saying such a thing, because no human being alive knows that, though it's the one question on everyone's mind who has an inkling of it. If I misrepresented that fact, my profuse apologies. What you may be referring to is the mention by the entity known as IMNVSBL - early in the history of the GT, in late 2003 - in which he states that the "bad year" was 8 years hence, thus 2011 and not 2012. But anyone, even those in Majestic, that state otherwise....that they know the actual date of the event, is only speculating just as the rest of us are. Even though they (the Establishment) is privy to the actual location and coordinates of the complex as it lurkingly lurches towards us in the inner solar system, its speed is certainly not uniform, and neither is the direction of its magnetic alignment as it loses its tether to the Sun heading outbound.

I also mentioned that the European Illuminati had started to prepare to evacuate to their new digs near the border of France and Belgium as early as the summer of 2008, with those exercises known as "Operation Storm Tide" (note the perfectly-fitting name). In addition, a larger bunker complex, closer to the Czech Republic, was being retrofitted as well (the DUMBs having been found to be too dangerous for the elite) and the concern was that the air shafts weren't reinforced enough to withstand 9-plus magnitude quakes, which they expected to begin occurring as early as April of 2010. I then learned, a year ago, that the procedures for "Storm Tide" had been modified last year, so that each euro VIP and his/her family was to be picked up "within half an hour" and relocated "within 2 hours" to their bunker site; this could only have been in response to the announcement on ZT shortly before that there would only be "several hours" between the New Madrid 'adjustment' mega-quake and the resulting super-tsunami hitting the shores of western Europe.

The only other "date" I know of was the second false date given to Dan Burisch by Chielah of March 28th, 2009.....which as we all know panned out just as the 'White Lie' date given by the opposing zeta faction.

Lately I've been coming to the conclusion that the zetas - of both persuasions - simply want to taunt the human PTB with hopes "IT" will come sooner than later, until the fragile human institutions they run will simply collapse and society fall in upon itself, into chaos, and THEN the last weeks will begin. There's certainly a correlation between what the aliens (ZT) tell them and their activities, and the never-ending string of predictions that never seem to manifest fully. (The latest being that the Phillipine plate was "jammed" by the March Japanese mega-quake, thus preventing the "7 of 10" from fully commencing....but if that was all true, the predictions should have always included the necessary disclaimers, but then the humans wouldn't be so willing to be led astray and caught off-balance. Tricky, tricky aliens! tsk-tsk!)

Duplicate post....hmmm....this is happening more frequently....

Along with the option to delete personal posts to...??

L2L - I used the "Delete post" option a few days ago for a double post. I just confirmed it IS there still. It is an "X" on the right next to the Red Exclamation mark for "Report this post".

Wanna screen shot?

It's definitely gone now.

the 14th Amendment to the Constitution, adopted in 1868.

Civil War 2 Hint: (1)

Notes:
(1)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth ... nstitution

recall, are you suggesting a second civil war is about to take place? I'm curious as to the context in which you bring up the 14th Amendment.

The Legislative History of Section Four of the Fourteenth Amendment
JB

The recent debate over the debt ceiling has led various commentators, journalists and politicians to consider the relevance of section Four of the Fourteenth Amendment, which provides:

The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

Does Section Four prevent Congress from refusing to raise the debt ceiling? Does it authorize the President to keep paying debts regardless of what Congress does?

This essay does not attempt to answer these questions in detail; I leave that to a future discussion. My goal here is to offer a basic account of the legislative history of Section 4. This discussion, I hope, will be of interest both to originalists and to non-originalists who believe that text, structure and history matter, even if they are not always dispositive of current constitutional questions.

The threat of defaulting on government obligations is a powerful weapon, especially in a complex, interconnected world economy. Devoted partisans can use it to disrupt government, to roil ordinary politics, to undermine policies they do not like, even to seek political revenge. Section Four was placed in the Constitution to remove this weapon from ordinary politics.

As well, I found it interesting today that Facebook will not allow this video to be posted to *anyone's* wall.

I don't think THEY want this widely known without their own spin. There are already mirror's uploaded. I got around it by going to FKTV's site and posting their link with the video on it. heheh FKTV

I second that e-motion, Wyz: thanks for that, BB. I wasn't sure what recall was referring to, but since the big talk of the day (other than Michele Bachman this-and-that) was about the "debt ceiling", it all makes sense now. Apparently, Mr. Obama has the power to ensure the US gov't. does not go into default, even if the recalcitrant conservatives refuse to raise that debt ceiling. However, even if he does, apparently he's going to hold up 70 million checks (Social Security, Disability, Veteran's benefits, etc) because he said they weren't likely to go out if the Republicans refuse to raise it. And knowing how they hate Obama with a passion, so much so they'd just as soon see America burn up in coast-to-coast rioting as give him anything positive to run on, I'm filled with a sense of foreboding. Exactly what recall was talking about, I'm afraid. Widespread bartering and rioting, with "Anonymous" gaining millions of members and spreading the resistance to globalisation and other corporate ills. However, I don't think Congress will take a chance, because at the very least, interest rates will skyrocket and make car payments, mortgage payments, and credit-card payments so unaffordable people will simply walk away from them. And if the teabaggers insist on "bringing it on", they'll find themselves bereft of what fewer customers they've been struggling to keep the past couple of years (many teabagging leaders being lobbyists, rural home-makers and home-schoolers, entrepreneurs, and petty merchants, in addition to the deluded worker-bees and veterans in their midst). Add that to the righteously livid recipients of Social Security and the VA, and they'll implode. Or so one would think.....never underestimate the stupidity of huge numbers of American voters.

Where is the outrage about the $10 BILLION-per-month the Cheney/Bush administration was spending on the war in Iraq, and slipped in as "supplementals" when these same 'conservatives' were in charge of the purse strings? Have they no shame? And that's no slight to true conservatives, such as Ron Paul, who DID deplore such outrageous wartime spending.

I'd laugh too, if it wasn't so sad I can only cry........

Even more troubling than potential Medicare cuts is the threat to Medicaid, a program that provides health care to 68 million needy children, disabled individuals, pregnant women and poor seniors. These people are “entitled” to such aid only as a matter of government-recognized decency that has historically been supported by both Republican and Democratic presidents. That Obama is now even considering reducing support for the most vulnerable in the current harsh economy has brought written opposition from two-thirds of Senate Democrats.

It is absurd that Medicaid, along with Medicare and Social Security, is on the chopping block when there is no serious effort to find savings in a defense budget equal to that of the rest of the world’s nations combined, and still at Cold War era levels despite the lack of a sophisticated military enemy. And that the GOP-led House has gotten a supposedly progressive president to consider doing serious damage to our most vulnerable population in order to placate Republicans determined to continue massive tax breaks for the wealthy is morally obscene.

Well, BB, thanks for that. I needed to see that in the 14th because of today's fear-mongering by NObama. I starting worrying about losing everything - I'm on SS Disability - and mostly worried about my dogs and cat. I often worry about it. I also see my VA shrink every week. Heheh. Anyway, I did the right things this time. I emailed my shrink about my - anxiety attack - and called my daughters - and went to a Meeting.

So again, getting home and seeing that above in print has lifted a bit of weight from my shoulders.

Thanks!

Although the site itself is running faster than normal there does indeed seem to be a delay in posting

What ever you do when this happens DO NOT hit the submit button twice otherwise the site will post your post twice....

Looks like another phone call to our host is in order