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What I've been told by certian voices is that there will be NO public disclosure until we are well on our way to United Earth/One World Government.
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Chaos that WILL materialize in poltics and nations.

"Every Government, Every Politician across the globe will want their finger in "Visitor ET pie."
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Disclosure of ET via the 'treaties'

The OF-9 set of treaties allegedly prohibited disclosure of ET by any one nation,
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Sadly, they too-often miss the fact that it's ultimately a spiritual issue we're dealing with.

Obama Nobel “peace” prize a sign of Thule society desperation
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I think this is a most telling blog from Benjamin Fulford's blog site.

brightstar

Microchip Implant to Link Your Health Records, Credit History, Social Security
Published on 10-10-2009


Source: BNet
http://industry.bnet.com/pharma/1000461 ... -security/




Novartis and Proteus Biomedical are not the only companies hoping to implant microchips into patients so that their pill-popping habits can be monitored. VeriChip of Delray Beach, Fl., has an even bolder idea: an implanted chip that links to an online database containing all your medical records, credit history and your social security ID.


http://i.bnet.com/blogs/healthlink.jpg

As this presentation to investors makes clear, the chip and its database could form the basis of a new national identity database lined to Social Security and NationalCreditReport.com. The VeriMed Health Link homepage describes the chip:

… a tiny, passive microchip (the nation’s first and only microchip cleared for patient identification by the U.S. Food & Drug Administration) and a secure, private online database that links you to your personal health record. Your Health Link is always with you and cannot be lost or stolen.

That database can be accessed by doctors and nurses:

About the size of a grain of rice, the microchip is inserted just under the skin and contains only a unique, 16-digit identifier. The microchip itself does not contain any other data other than this unique electronic ID, nor does it contain any Global Positioning System (GPS) tracking capabilities. And unlike conventional forms of identification, the Health Link cannot be lost, stolen, misplaced, or counterfeited. It is safe, secure, reversible, and always with you.

But VeriChip’s ambitions don’t end there, as this diagram indicates:

(Click to enlarge.)

Yes, it shows your Health Link chip linked to Google, Microsoft, employers and insurers. The company also sees the VeriMed Health Link linked to your “identity security services,” through a separate VeriChip product, PositiveID. This slide show states:

PositiveID puts people in control of their personal health records and financial information, bridging the gap between secure medical records and identity security

PositiveID dovetails with Health Link:

Cross marketing opportunities: cross-sell the NationalCreditReport.com customer base the Health Link personal health record and vice-versa

Differentiates PositiveID as the only personal health record that offers identity theft protection

It’s a future in which your doctor tags you like a dog with a microchip that allows anyone with the right privileges to look at your medical records, credit history, social security number (see slide 6), and anything else that stems from that.

Suddenly, storing medical records on paper in locked cabinets inside a single doctor’s office starts to look like something we may not want to rush to give up.

Image: The VeriMed Health Link chip from VeriChip’s web page.

"...According to the terms of this particular treaty, no single nation could effect a 'disclosure' of the extraterrestrial presence without the assent and participation of all the nations.."

requiring unanimity from a large and vastly diverse body of representatives of diverse interests. Perfect:

http://naturalplane.blogspot.com/2009/10/video-ufo-cow-abduction-puerto-gaboto.html

Friday, October 09, 2009
Video: UFO Cow Abduction - Puerto Gaboto, Argentina





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk0VTwc_ ... r_embedded



Statement with video: October 8, 2009 - A couple traveling along the river in the area north of Rosario claimed having seen an animal being abducted by a flying saucer. "Later, they both vanished," they said.

The likelihood that cows could fly was always relegated to the province of the impossible. But to Sergio and Laura, this changed last Monday afternoon, when they traveled along the coast near Puerto Gaboto, and believed that they saw a cow in the sky, abducted by a UFO.

The couple told the story to journalist Guillermo Brasca in a report transmitted by the Telenoche program on Channel 3. They provided photos which are not entirely clear, but which show the alleged UFO and what would appear to be a cow in flight.

"We went to have some with the kids, we were looking at the island and we were surprised to see some strange white thing flying. It was large. We made a close up with the camera and it was a cow flying, and above it, there was something like a flying saucer suspended in the air (some of the photos accompany the report). It wasn't a helicopter or an airplane," said Laura. The woman added: "It seemed as if the cow was being sucked up by the flying saucer. Then they both vanished. I want to believe that's what it was. To me, it was a UFO. I experienced it."

NOTE: I'm skeptical on this one, though, it seems the witness was serious. This story was reported by Grupo G.A.B.I.E. and rosario3.com as well...Lon

TPTB wants to Scape from the coming Pole Shift....to the Moon or Mars to join the STS Aliens.... in some "Space Command" Black Shuttles!!!




To make a shelter on the moon this friday on Cabeus ?

http://www.ufodigest.com/phprint.php

Why I believe that full UFO 'Disclosure' is almost impossible for the U.S. or other governments

by Norio Hayakawa

Posted: 19:34 October 9, 2009

The recently aired TV documentary "I Know What I Saw" (shown on October 4, 2009 on the History Channel) was certainly one of the best for that genre. However, it is my opinion that no matter how convincing (especially to the "believers") a documentary is made, we still have a long long ways to go before the mainstream will de-categorize UFOs and UFO-related topics from the realm of "pseudo-science" to mainstream reality.
Norio Hayakawa
James Fox: I KNOW WHAT I SAW

The recent UFO files "disclosures" from France, Great Britain, etc. are definitely the right steps. Nevertheless, simply releasing such files to the public will do very little to make the vast majority of the public accept the reality of UFOs and its consequences.

First of all, what the public needs is an unprecedented official statement from the government that UFOs are real. But no government so far has officially come out and declared that UFOs are real. The difficulty is not only "logistics" involving such announcements. Which agency would make such announcements? And after such announcements are made, then what next?

Once such announcements are made, then the public will demand more. The public will not be satisfied simply by being told that the UFO phenomenon is real. They will demand answers and further explanations........and it is my opinion that NO GOVERNMENT (INCLUDING THE U.S. GOVERNMENT) will dare come up with explanations, simply because the governments themselves have always been baffled (and will continue to be baffled) by the paranormal, non-physical aspects and incomprehensible behavioral patterns of this phenomenon and the inscrutable (and even what could only be described as mischievous, illogical and occasionally even sinister) nature of some of those so-called "entities" that are supposedly piloting or maneuvering these objects.

The governments may even have realized that those "entities" may not even be "advanced" extra-terrestrial visitors at all but may even be some unknown, ultra-dimensional force playing some endless mind "games" with us and manipulating our belief systems for some unknown agenda.

Yes, we may have had thousands and thousands, perhaps even tens of thousands of qualified eye-witnesses to the phenomenon all these years, especially since the end of World War II and even before then.

But untold number of eye-witnesses does not necessarily prove that UFOs are physical, advanced extra-terrestrial spacecraft and that we are being visited by physical, advanced beings from outer space.

In more than 60 years of the so-called modern era of UFO sightings (and even before 1947), we have yet to come up with any single, solid, tangible, irrefutable physical evidence that we are being visited by such advanced, extra-terrestrial civilization.

Accounts of crashes of some of these objects (such as the alleged 1947 Roswell "incident") do not prove much. Moreover, it is my belief that such crashes are not likely, if we consider that these objects are from highly advanced civilizations.

For example, if the Roswell crash of 1947 really did happen, it may not even have been a totally physical incident and may have completely baffled the government. It may even have been intentionally "staged" by an unknown force (possibly in "forced" collusion with a small, secretive group within the government which may have been unwittingly but selectively contacted by such "unknown" force) as part of a gradual, conditioning of belief systems of the public in order to fulfill a future global agenda).

However, I cannot definitely state that this is so.

In any case, the bottom line is that the UFO phenomenon itself is real.

It is my opinion that the rest of the government ( i.e., the non-secretive majority among the elitist circles within the government) is not ready and will continue to be hesitant to explain that the phenomenon is more than physical and, furthermore, that it may not necessarily be of extra-terrestrial origin. Neither is the vast majority of the public ready to accept such realities unless there is a consciousness shift that will involve the whole humanity as a collective unit.

Simply stated, the government is not in the business of explaining paranormal realities such as possible ultra-dimensional realities. Such realities are intertwined with belief systems, including religious belief systems.

I truly hope for full Disclosure. However, only some unprecedented eschatological global crises or inexplicable global shift in consciousness may be the time when such Disclosures could be made for the benefit of humanity.

http://www.myspace.com/noriohayakawa.

This is for NL/ZT
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SOZT
An obvious failure, the Moon plume project is an immense embarrassment for NASA, who hoped to spike public interested in their work, and thus additional funding for an agency that is being steadily trimmed of late. No plumb whatsoever occurred, though the leading probe did cause a small flash of light. Thus, there will be scant analysis for water possible, as the plumb was the desired result that would allow analysis to occur. Mission failure. It is known and admitted that the leading probe did NOT land where aimed, into dust at the bottom of a crater, and thus something DID go wrong with the mission. Why did the leading probe divert, and was this truly an accident? We stated when asked about this mission earlier,
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that the mission would not go as expected, not be a success for the elite who hope to go to the Moon to avoid the pole shift on Earth, returning after the shift. If we can push the erratic Moon into place so that eclipses seem to be happening as expected, we can certainly nudge a tiny probe to hit rock rather than dust. And this is what was done, with the permission of the Council of Worlds. The elite had hoped to get public funding into NASA to continue the plan to put man back on the Moon in a permanent base, which now is a dashed hope. The elite may have their own funds, but wanted the expertise at NASA to do the work for them, as they do NOT want to be seen as reacting to all the pole shift warnings. Now they must fund this themselves, and anticipate potential interference from the Council of Worlds.

We warned the elite: inform the public about what is coming or suffer the same fate as the common man, stuck on the surface of Earth. The Moon plumb failure is just an explanation point on the end of this statement.
EOZT

end quoted
from:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum ... 897858/pg1

brightstar wrote:
Obama Nobel “peace” prize a sign of Thule society desperation
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I think this is a most telling blog from Benjamin Fulford's blog site.

brightstar


Prize is for international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. The vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons.

Hardly the mark of a Illumitoy sock puppet. I think that they would just as soon have a nuke war to cull out the Dead peasants and bring on the NWO.

Are there other sources or cross references to support Benjamin’s statement?

Ben also was saying the Feds would collapse on 9/30/09 and that did not happen.

Nobel Peace Prize

The Nobel Peace Prize (Swedish and Norwegian: Nobels fredspris) was one of five Nobel Prizes bequeathed by the Swedish industrialist and inventor Alfred Nobel.
Background


Alfred Nobel
According to Nobel's will, the Peace Prize should be awarded "to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses."[1] Alfred Nobel's will stated that the prize should be awarded by a committee of five people elected by the Norwegian Parliament.
Nobel died in 1896 and did not leave an explanation for choosing peace as a prize category. The categories for chemistry and physics were obvious choices as he was a trained chemical engineer. The reason behind the peace prize is less clear. According to the Norwegian Nobel Committee, there's significant evidence his friendship with Bertha von Suttner, a peace activist and the first winner of the prize, may have profoundly influenced his decision to include peace as a category.[2] Scholars who studied Nobel have said it was Nobel's way to compensate for developing destructive forces (Nobel's inventions included dynamite and ballistite). None of his explosives, except for ballistite, were used in any war during his lifetime,[3] although the Irish Republican Brotherhood, an Irish nationalist organization, did carry out dynamite attacks in the 1880s[4] and he was instrumental in turning Bofors from an iron company to an armaments company whilst he owned it.
It is also unclear why Nobel wished the Peace Prize to be administered in Norway. The Norwegian Nobel Committee speculates that Norway may have been better suited to awarding the prize as it did not have the same militaristic traditions as Sweden and that at the end of the nineteenth century the Norwegian parliament had become closely involved in the Inter-Parliamentary Union's efforts to resolve conflicts through mediation and arbitration.[2]
Nomination and selection
The Norwegian Parliament appoints the Norwegian Nobel Committee, which selects the laureate for the Peace Prize.
Nomination
Each year, the Norwegian Nobel Committee specifically invites qualified people to submit nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize.[5] The statutes of the Nobel Foundation specify categories of individuals who are eligible to make nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize.[6] These are;
• Members of national assemblies and governments and members of the Inter-Parliamentary Union,
• Members of the Permanent Court of Arbitration and the International Court of Justice at the Hague,
• Members of Institut de Droit International,
• University professors of history, political science, philosophy, law and theology, university presidents and directors of peace research international affairs institutes,
• Former recipients, including board members of organisations that have previously won the prize,
• Present and past members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee, and
• Former permanent advisers to the Norwegian Nobel Institute.


The 14th Dalai Lama and Archbishop Desmond Tutu, Nobel Peace Prize laureates.
Nominations must usually be submitted to the Committee by February 1 of the year in question. Nominations by committee members can be submitted up to the date of the first Committee meeting after this deadline.[6]
In 2009, a record 205 nominations were received.[7] The Committee keeps the nominations secret and asks that nominators do the same. Over time many individuals have become known as "Nobel Peace Prize Nominees", but this designation has no official standing.[8] Nominations from 1901 to 1955, however, have been released in a database.[9] When the past nominations were released it was discovered that Adolf Hitler was nominated in 1939 by Erik Brandt, a member of the Swedish Parliament. Brandt retracted the nomination after a few days.[10] Other infamous nominees included Joseph Stalin and Benito Mussolini. However, since nomination requires only support from one qualified person, all nominations do not necessarily represent the opinion of the Nobel committee itself.[citation needed]
Unlike the other Nobel Prizes, which recognize completed scientific or literary accomplishment, the Nobel Peace Prize may be awarded to persons or organizations that are in the process of resolving a conflict or creating peace.
Selection
Nominations are considered by the Nobel Committee at a meeting where a short list of candidates for further review is created. This short list is then considered by permanant advisers to the Nobel institute, which consists Institute's Director and Research Director and a small numbers of Norwegian academics with expertise in subject areas relating to the prize. Advisers usually have some months to complete reports, which are then considered by the Committee to select the laureate. The Committee seeks to achieve a unanimous decision, but this is not always possible.[11]
Awarding the prize
The Nobel Committee chairman, currently Thorbjørn Jagland, presents the Prize to the laureate at the award ceremony. The Peace Prize is presented annually in Oslo, in the presence of the king, on December 10 (the anniversary of Nobel's death), and is the only Nobel Prize not presented in Stockholm. In Oslo, the Chairman of the Norwegian Nobel Committee presents the Nobel Peace Prize in the presence of the King of Norway. The Nobel Laureate then receives a diploma, a medal and a document confirming the prize amount.[12] The Nobel Peace Prize Ceremony is held at the Oslo City Hall, followed the next day by the Nobel Peace Prize Concert, which is broadcast to more than 450 million households in over 150 countries around the world. The concert has received worldwide fame and the participation of top celebrity hosts and performers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Peace_Prize

Nobel committee head defends Obama peace prize
Posted: 11 October 2009 0245 hrs


OSLO - The head of the Nobel Peace Prize committee on Saturday defended its controversial decision to give the award to US President Barack Obama, saying his work so far justified the honour.

"He could have also had it too late," Thorbjoern Jagland told reporters.

"Can someone tell me who did more than him this year? It is difficult to name a winner of the peace prize who is more in line with Alfred Nobel's will."

Jagland, a former Norwegian prime minister, said "we are capturing the spirit of the times, the needs of the era."

He and the committee's four other members caused shockwaves on Friday by announcing that Obama had won the Nobel, praising his "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples."

The committee attached "special importance to Obama's vision and work for a world without nuclear weapons."

The award for the first black US president sparked both praise and criticism, with many saying he has not yet done enough to deserve it.

Obama himself, saying he was "surprised" and "deeply humbled," said he doubted he deserved the honour.

The leader of Norway's main opposition called Saturday for Jagland's resignation, a newspaper reported.

Siv Jensen, head of the far-right Progress Party, said Jagland should step down because his new job as secretary general of the Council of Europe compromised his independence.

Erna Solberg, leader of Conservative party Hoejre, also criticised Jagland's attempt to do two jobs and questioned his decision to hand Obama the peace prize.
The Nobel committee's five members are appointed by parliament.
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/ ... 76/1/.html


The prize selections often result in allegations of political bias. The peace prize, in particular, is viewed through a political prism because the committee consists of members of the Norwegian Parliament, as stipulated in the 1895 will of prize founder Alfred Nobel, a Swedish industrialist who invented dynamite.
Nobel Foundation chairman Mikael Sohlman didn't immediately return calls seeking comment, but there is little chance of expanding the prizes, given the foundation's strict adherence to Nobel's will.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... QD9B2S7GO0

Barack Obama, Nobel Peace Laureate: Whatever Happened to Awarding for Deeds Actually Done?

I am generally a supporter of Barack Obama. I voted for him and campaigned in print for his election. However, as I turned on CNN early this morning and saw the news that he'd been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, I actually gasped in disbelief. Twitter, Facebook and YouTube videos were destined to be in overdrive, not to mention the texts on millions of BlackBerrys.
As the 2 a.m. PDT CNN commentator interviewed Norwegian experts and past Peace Laureates, just about all of them repeated the obvious: Obama was being honored for the hope of what he might accomplish as opposed to what he has actually achieved.
The Nobel Peace Committee has been accused in the past of trying to make a political statement, and perhaps, because they admire Obama and his groundbreaking presidency, in addition to his earlier anti-war statements and recent speech to the Muslim world, they are, by this action, hoping to jump start his ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Why else give him the honor now? Whatever one might feel about Obama, he has not earned this singular award. Few American presidents have received it and of those who have it was bestowed after they'd been engaged in something special. Theodore Roosevelt had helped to negotiate peace in the Russo-Japanese War. Woodrow Wilson had tirelessly worked for the creation of the League of Nations -- a struggle that was blamed for causing the serious stroke he suffered, which left him disengaged in the last years of his presidency.
Jimmy Carter received the Peace Prize after he left office, but in the wake of huge achievements monitoring worldwide elections and in his efforts with Habitat for Humanity, building homes for the poor.
Former Vice President Al Gore got the prize after years of working for the environment. And whether you appreciated Henry Kissinger's getting the award it was in response to his efforts to effect a peace in the Vietnam War.
So, at the moment, I believe it is enormously premature for Obama to be getting this great tribute, which to a certain extent cheapens the prior recipients and the work all of them performed over so many years.
It is traditional for Nobel honorees to be named a long time after their achievements in the sciences and literature. Indeed, the winners announced this week in other categories performed their amazing work and discoveries decades ago. Obama's designation is akin to giving an Oscar to a young director for films we hope that he or she will produce or for a first-time published author getting a Pulitzer for a book he is destined to write some day.The time has not yet arrived and circumstances have not yet evolved where Barack Obama is anywhere near the point where he has earned this prize. I don't blame him for this capricious action; it was the Nobel Peace Committee which committed the offense, which no doubt has Alfred Nobel thumping his head against his casket.I only hope that President Obama takes this honor to heart to the extent that his policies and statements and deeds will someday make him deserving of this singular trophy. However, that time has not yet arrived, and I fear there will be a backlash to this announcement that may well lessen the significance this award has generally meant for well over a century.Michael Russnow's website is www.ramproductionsinternational.com.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-r ... 14899.html

Obama Nobel “peace” prize a sign of Thule society desperation
The Nobel Peace Committee has proven to the world they are a scam and have permanently destroyed their credibility by awarding war-criminal mass-murderer Obama a “peace” prize. The members of the Nobel Prize committee and the Nobel family have now clearly shown they are members of the Nazi Thule society and are hereby officially designated as enemies of humanity. To this day the Nobel family makes most of their money from selling high explosives and clearly they are rewarding Obama for promoting war and the sale of explosives even as the talks peace. These desperate, evil rats will continue exposing themselves to the world through their actions not their words. Expect more Satan worshippers to be flushed from their hiding places over the coming weeks as the Federal Reserve Board undergoes its final death throes. http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/

“I am both surprised and deeply humbled by the decision of the Nobel Committee. Let me be clear, I do not view it as a recognition of my own accomplishments, but rather as an affirmation of American leadership on behalf of aspirations held by people in all nations. To be honest, I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many of the transformative figures who've been honored by this prize, men and women who've inspired me and inspired the entire world through their courageous pursuit of peace.

But I also know that this prize reflects the kind of world that those men and women and all Americans want to build, a world that gives life to the promise of our founding documents. And I know that throughout history the Nobel Peace Prize has not just been used to honor specific achievement; it's also been used as a means to give momentum to a set of causes.

And that is why I will accept this award as a call to action, a call for all nations to confront the common challenges of the 21st century. Now, these challenges can't be met by any one leader or any one nation. And that's why my administration's worked to establish a new era of engagement in which all nations must take responsibility for the world we seek.

We cannot tolerate a world in which nuclear weapons spread to more nations and in which the terror of a nuclear holocaust endangers more people. And that's why we've begun to take concrete steps to pursue a world without nuclear weapons: because all nations have the right to pursue peaceful nuclear power, but all nations have the responsibility to demonstrate their peaceful intentions. We cannot accept the growing threat posed by climate change, which could forever damage the world that we pass on to our children, sowing conflict and famine, destroying coastlines and emptying cities.

And that's why all nations must now accept their share of responsibility for transforming the way that we use energy. We can't allow the differences between peoples to define the way that we see one another. And that's why we must pursue a new beginning among people of different faiths and races and religions, one based upon mutual interest and mutual respect. And we must all do our part to resolve those conflicts that have caused so much pain and hardship over so many years. And that effort must include an unwavering commitment to finally realize that – the rights of all Israelis and Palestinians to live in peace and security in nations of their own.

We can't accept a world in which more people are denied opportunity and dignity that all people yearn for: the ability to get an education and make a decent living, the security that you won't have to live in fear of disease or violence without hope for the future. And even as we strive to seek a world in which conflicts are resolved peacefully and prosperity is widely shared, we have to confront the world as we know it today. I am the commander in chief of a country that's responsible for ending a war and working in another theater to confront a ruthless adversary that directly threatens the American people and our allies.

I'm also aware that we are dealing with the impact of a global economic crisis that has left millions of Americans looking for work. These are concerns that I confront every day on behalf of the American people. Some of the work confronting us will not be completed during my presidency. Some, like the elimination of nuclear weapons, may not be completed in my lifetime.

But I know these challenges can be met, so long as it's recognized that they will not be met by one person or one nation alone. This award is not simply about the efforts of my administration; it's about the courageous efforts of people around the world. And that's why this award must be shared with everyone who strives for justice and dignity; for the young woman who marches silently in the streets on behalf of her right to be heard, even in the face of beatings and bullets; for the leader imprisoned in her own home because she refuses to abandon her commitment to democracy; for the soldier who sacrificed through tour after tour of duty on behalf of someone half a world away; and for all those men and women across the world who sacrifice their safety and their freedom and sometime their lives for the cause of peace. That has always been the cause of America.

That's why the world has always looked to America. And that's why I believe America will continue to lead. Thank you very much. “

… We cannot accept the growing threat posed by climate change, which could forever damage the world that we pass on to our children, sowing conflict and famine, destroying coastlines and emptying cities.

"…. accept their share of responsibility for transforming the way that we use energy.….

…” the rights of all Israelis and Palestinians to live in peace and security in nations of their own.…

Dondep, you got this "most interesting" point re: disclosure exactly right:



"All" the nations, huh? Man, that is the most fabulous Gotcha in all creation: requiring unanimity from a large and vastly diverse body of representatives of diverse interests. Perfect: the ideal way for Majestic (our good Earthside negotiators of this secret treaty) to absolutely ensure that no. disclosure. could. ever. happen.

Doubts? Ask yourself this simple question: When was the last time in recorded history - just once mind you, a single example, not even twice or 'sometimes, rarely' - that any large representative body has EVER voted 'unanimously' on a controversial or sensitive issue? Ever?

It's the perfect squelch. All the U.S. has to do to ensure that a motion to disclose will never. ever. pass. the UN is to bribe one single tacky minor third-world dictator already under their thumb and already in their pay to say 'No'. Done. And "don't blame the mighty US, we voted 'Yes.'" Sanctimony and high-fives all around....

"Unanimity." Hah. Hah. Hah.

Cyberbird, That is just the tip of the iceburg. I have been reading about Melchizdek since the fifites and picked up a good book in montera California at an old book store in 1961. Try to get one! It was copyrighted in 1940.

Cyberbird, That is just the tip of the iceburg. I have been reading about Melchizdek since the fifites and picked up a good book in montera California at an old book store in 1961. Try to get one! It was copyrighted in 1940.