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MT,

Thank you so much for your comments on the Wilcock thing, your ideas are amazingly helpful to me in terms of visualizing some of these hyperdimensional problems, especially:

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"...What if space time was four dimensional and there are layers of these two-dimensional projections, like pages in a book.

The Universe creation is like a open book, where on the left is a stack of pages and on the right is a stack of pages...."


Like pages in a book....! Wow. :clap Now it all fits together. I always did have trouble dealing with the "strings" in String Theory.....

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recall15 wrote:
Hello MT7
acoording on 535 an insider...
this would be the agenda:
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The Markets will start crash on the 25th
Obama will do a national address on the 29th
A Certain country will issue an Official Declaration of War with the US in November 2009
Other Nations will join and it will be 5 nations against 7

end quoted from:

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message895136/pg1
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The GLP seems to believe what 535 says for some reason.

I wonder if 535 is sock puppet or just a groupie stirring the pot?

535 was unclear if the 25th was OCT or NOV.

Well I remember when Nixon went to China and it always seems to be a strange marriage.

As they say #1 cause is Divorcing over money.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/35097/top_reasons_people_divorce.html

There were some "insiders" I think on a Project Camelot video, that were talking about this (I will try an remember the details).

Something about US sending arms to China for drugs and planning for a staged war.

** Stay tuned for the next episode in the drama ** :elephant

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Hi G.T.ers, long time reader, first time poster.
My girlfriend recently had two experiences that she believes were alien visitations. Both at night in her bedroom, but she doesn't think she dreamed them. The first a big white naked guy, like Dr. Manhattan from The Watchmen. He didn't do anything, she feels like he was protecting her. The second she didn't see, this one told her "The internationals are close to you."
I said I'd ask on the Golden Thread if anyone knows who the internationals are.


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Just an old timer dropping by to say hello. :cool Hope everybody is well!

Hi Crackajack. Good to see you again. The last time I remember you posting was back at White Rabbit/Kate's place in 2005/2006. It's been a long time.

As you can see, the GT's evolved quite a bit since wholly devoting itself to the Burisch saga and encompasses all manner of subject matter these days, although Dan_B and co are still mentioned here a lot in posts, especially at UJ's Sneds Says thread, which you might find both interesting and amusing.



Hiya MJC. Good to see you too! Yeah it's been about 4 or 5 years I guess. How time flies! The RU team's expose on some of the puppet masters and their links and the money trail behind the ufer scene was an event which allowed me to fade away happily and pursue other things. That said, I still research the areas which pique my interest.

I'll take a peek at that thread. I got a feeling not a lot will have changed. heh


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Von Braun's warning as dictated to Dr Carol Rosin about to come about???


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Wernher Von Braun 1970

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun

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Wernher Magnus Maximilian Freiherr[1] von Braun (March 23, 1912 – June 16, 1977) was a German American rocket physicist and astronautics engineer, becoming one of the leading figures in the development of rocket technology in Germany and the United States. Wernher von Braun is sometimes said to be the preeminent rocket engineer of the 20th century.[2]

In his 20s and early 30s, von Braun was the central figure in Germany's pre-war rocket development program, responsible for the design and realization of the deadly V-2 combat rocket during World War II. After the war, he and some of his rocket team were taken to the United States as part of the then-secret Operation Paperclip. In 1955, ten years after entering the country, von Braun became a naturalized U.S. citizen.

Von Braun worked on the American intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) program before joining NASA, where he served as director of NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center and the chief architect of the Saturn V launch vehicle, the superbooster that propelled the Apollo spacecraft to the Moon.[3] In the words of NASA, he is "without doubt, the greatest rocket scientist in history. His crowning achievement ... was to lead the development of the Saturn V booster rocket that helped land the first men on the Moon in July 1969."[4] He received the 1975 National Medal of Science.

Place of birth Wirsitz, German Empire (now Poland)
Place of death Alexandria, Virginia, USA
Place of burial Alexandria, Virginia, USA
Allegiance Nazi Germany
Service/branch Schutzstaffel
Years of service 1937 (or 1933) to 1945
Rank Sturmbannführer, SS
Battles/wars World War II
Awards War Merit Cross, Knight's Cross First Class with Swords
Other work Rocket engineer, NASA, Built the Saturn V rocket of the Apollo manned moon missions








mountaintiger7 wrote:
From BenjaminFulford site
http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/

"Instead though, their next big 911 type move, apparently, will be to announce “first contact” with aliens. They may then also roll out some of their secret flying saucer fleet and try to fool the world. Well, they will only fool the fools. Nonetheless, we must not underestimate these snakes or let our guards down even for a second until their nightmare rule ends forever."

Perhaps they are saving this event for 11/27, because H1n1 is not culling enough of the peasants?

Is the next step to round up the peasants after they get out line, when they are shown the truth?

p.s. in waking this morning I had a strange association thought on how similar the names of HIV and H1N1 were if you use 'I' rather than '1' and flip the n and you get HIV1.

Speaking of which if 11/27 is a staged event (beginning to sound more likely, because of reserved air time)
Another early morning thought.

Revelation 9:11
"9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon."

and this strange association of:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_9

"It was also the battle of Armageddon, the coming black-white revolution portrayed in sound, Manson claimed. According to Poston: 'When Charlie was listening to it, he heard in the background noise, in and around the machine gun fire and the oinking of pigs, a man's voice saying "Rise"' (it is first heard 2 minutes and 34 seconds into the track, just after the crowd sounds that follow 'lots of stab wounds as it were' and 'informed him on the third night' and just before 'Number 9, Number 9'). "

Could the Beatles have intuited the future events like Casey or others?

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America On-Line Poll Results:

Are you offended by this costume?
No 91%
Yes 9%

Total Votes: 47,884
Note on Poll Results


Are you offended by this Costume? I'm not! I find the 1.5 MILLION Illegal Mexicans pouring across our boarder UNDOCUMENTED much more OFFENSIVE!

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Target criticized for 'illegal alien' costume | StarTribune.com


http://www.startribune.com/business/646 ... DEh7P:DiUs


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Target Corp. apologized Friday after coming under fire from customers and some Hispanic groups for selling an "illegal alien" Halloween costume on its website. The $39.99 costume comes with a space alien mask, an orange jail suit with "illegal alien" stamped on the chest and a large "green card." The Minneapolis retailer said the costume was added to its website by mistake and said it would be removed.

"It's insensitive, it's offensive," said Vicki Adame, a California media relations consultant who complained to Target after learning about the costume on a Facebook site, "Wise Latinas Linked," which lists 2,200 members. "Immigration is such a hot-button issue. Why is Target fueling that fire?"

Lizette Olmos, national communications director for the League of United Latin American Citizens, said the Washington-based organization will formally complain to Target.

"It's really disturbing," Olmos said. Besides the complaint about Target, the organization has received a number of others this year about costumes that she said are racist and degrading.

Target spokesman Joshua Thomas said the item was put on its website by mistake when an employee entered a wrong number into the system. Target has a strict review process with its vendors, he said. "We apologize. This was never intended to be part of our assortment. We are moving as quickly as possible to remove it from our website."

Target started getting complaints Thursday afternoon, Thomas said, but the costume was still online Friday evening. Target's website is managed by Amazon.com, and Thomas said it could take as long as 48 hours to take it down.


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Funbobbasso is my most favorite Youtube poster. He recites the words of Thomas Paine. Thought Provoking.. Powerful powerful stuff...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri1b8j8gG5A

The Broken Common Bond

THOMAS PAINE argues for a restoration of the common bond over diversity


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:crylaugh From the first predictions, this plume looks like a PhotoShop job ???

LUNAR IMPACT PLUME: There was a plume after all. Observers on Earth had their doubts after LCROSS and its Centaur booster rocket hit the Moon on Friday, Oct. 9th. The twin lunar impacts failed to produce visible plumes of debris, prompting speculation that something had gone wrong. On the contrary, members of the LCROSS science team are now calling the experiment "a smashing success."

Fifteen seconds after the Centaur hit the shadowy floor of crater Cabeus, the LCROSS spacecraft flying 600 km overhead took the following picture of a plume measuring 6 to 8 km wide:

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"There is a clear indication of a plume of vapor and fine debris," says LCROSS principal investigator Tony Colaprete of NASA/Ames. "The ejecta brightness appears to be at the low end of our predictions and this may be a clue to the properties of the material the Centaur hit."

Nine cameras and spectrometers on LCROSS captured every phase of the Centaur's impact: the intial flash, the debris plume, and the creation of the Centaur's crater. "We are blown away by the data returned," says Colaprete. "The team is working hard on the analysis and the data appear to be of very high quality."

But did the impact reveal any water at the bottom of Cabeus? The LCROSS team isn't ready to say yet. Combining their data with those of other observatories and analyzing the full dataset could take weeks. According to NASA, "any new information will undergo the normal scientific review process and will be released as soon as it is available."

For more information, read NASA's Oct. 16th press release and browse the gallery of images.

http://spaceweather.com/

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Welcome back, Cracka! If you ever want a copy of the latest YellowBook compilation of the entire GT from start to present to 'catch up' with, let UJ or myself know and we'll get a copy to you. There's a couple of other Aussies that have a copy and could send you one too, just PM one of us. And "drbknows" is still around although invisible most of the time.

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Hello, DonDep, Cyberbird, Phatman and All –

I’ve been contemplating the David Wilcock “disclosure date information” issue, along with some broader questions related to disclosure (of what?) that seem to be swirling about – there are a lot of pieces to this puzzle. So here’s my take on it, if you’ll bear with me:
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Here’s where the plot thickens: David is unique as a scientific theorist and researcher in that he did not come up through any of the conventional academic streams where his talent might have been identified early on and “steered” into secret research. Instead, he studied hyperdimensional physics and related subjects on his own, using his brilliant mind to fit the puzzle pieces together for himself. And the inescapable conclusion is that David Wilcock has come to some correct – and must.be.kept.secret. – conclusions about the nature of scientific reality. So, of course, he must be stopped, discredited, driven crazy, etc to bring him and his work down. David is publishing his findings openly on the ‘net, and this must be stopped.

But David’s not easily compromised; he’s a tough-minded and independent thinker, sure of his footing and well-versed in the nature of reality. Hard to fool. (This is not to say that I agree with all of his conclusions. What I’m saying is that he has the guts to stick to his guns here and set his own course.)

So in order to destroy him, they first had to lure him in and find out what he knew. Enter Dan Burisch, who’s allowed by his controllers to befriend David, work with him, find out more. But Burisch & Co discover that David’s not taken in. Trash him in classic EDO style. Try again. Now other “insiders” start feeding David info, lotsa truth and a little poison… the classic method to set him up. They start intimating they’ll tell him more, but it would be dangerous (for whom?) so he’s got to keep his mouth shut. David now complies, curious about the truth but unwilling to endanger anyone’s life. Now he’s compromised, knowing more but unable to speak. They’ve got him because he’s trying – as so many have – to wander further down the rabbit hole.

And here, the “three insiders who’ve said….” ploy becomes the perfect setup for discrediting him – or starting to. Hello, Blossom…!

But the larger question remains: What is it, exactly, that David Wilcock has found that they don’t want us to know? My guess – and it’s only that – is that it’s related to his time-space vs. space-time understanding of interdimensional travel. See his discussion here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scym0WH3Jww&feature=player_embedded This has serious implications for whatever is going on with the “jumproom” travel to Mars – hence, the “trigger” for Burisch’s trashing of David was Wilcock’s support for ‘Henry Deacon’s’ claims of travel to Mars, since these Mars issues are also related to Andrew Basagio’s revelations http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwE8m50sbWk and Stephanie Relfe’s deprogramming of “Michael” – a U.S. military agent who also lived on Mars – but in some kind of time-travel mode, returning to his Earth timeline when returning here. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/marte/esp_marte_6e.htm#mars_1

This “time travel” aspect of physical travel to Mars via an interdimensional gateway – that is, when you travel there, you also travel through time to the future is consistent with Burisch’s hints about “Mars anomalies” in his own work – remember that the reason he was beaten up by Majestic goons and hospitalized was that he was about to publish these time anomaly photo discoveries. Majestic told him it was to keep him away from the “timeline ultra-secret” – which was spun into the T1/T2 thing… See also Richard Hoagland’s Mars work http://www.veoh.com/collection/HoaglandsMars/watch/v229430yfrB33r6# as well, alluding to the same time anomalies.

In all of these witnesses: ‘Henry Deacon’(Arthur Neumann), Andrew Basiago, David’s source ‘Daniel’ and Relfe’s ‘Michael’ we find common elements of travelling into the future when travelling to Mars.

What if David Wilcock has stumbled on the science of it all?

He.must.be.silenced, they’ll say.

Next stop, oh, nothing happens in November….mockery all around. And if he’s “wrong about that well, shucks, he’s wrong about everything isn’t he….? (snicker snicker)

Setup. Oh, yeah. Bigtime.

My views, anyway.

Cheers,
Selene


Fair enough, Selene, as I know you're fond of David and I wouldn't even begin to suggest he isn't an articulate and intelligent thinker. However, the fact is that David Wilcock is not only not being suppressed, not being 'stopped' at all or little cost, not being destroyed, etc, but that he is almost having a red carpet rolled out for him. I got the distinct impression that George Noory was "advised" - shall we say - to have him on the program, and was even suggesting that he was being used by the great ufer bogeyman, the 'Illuminati' itself, as a pawn.

Now to be effective at this kind of [false] disclosure, or so the midget-minds of Majestic muse, a 'pied piper' needs to have the additional back-up of 'inside sources' who often appear at odds with the information the pied piper-du jour has been touting. This further helps to muddy the waters, but serves the purposes of the potentates quite well. Having been in the same position, I can speak with the benefit of experience. It was only when it fit the schedule of Majestic that I was 'allowed' to appear on most of the radio programs I've been on (Jeff Rense, Lou Gentile, Rob Simone, The UFO Paranormal Hour, etc). Had I not been 'approved' beforehand and behind the scenes, those interviews would never have happened. Which calls into question anything that's said at those times. Coast 2 Coast is just the most blatant example, the 'flagship' of the entire ufer Psy-Ops programming matrix.

In all this talk of "time travel", no proof of any kind has ever been offered up that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that it's possible to travel to the future and return. Ever. [BTW, recall, your pages-in-a-book metaphor is as good if not better than Burisch's own cards-in-a-deck analogy.] The ruins on Mars are most likely to belong to the Annunaki, who were known to mine Mars at the same time they were mining Earth for gold before the quarantine of Earth went into effect. The style is similar to the mysterious monuments we find on Earth (the Sphinx, the Giza pyramid complex, the Baalbek facility, etc), and a patient analysis of detailed and high-resolution images would show this to be the case, were those images allowed to be made easily available to the public. Not only that, but the astounding body of translated Sumerian texts, clay tablets and cylinder seals by Zecharia Sitchin gives detailed information about the Iggigi (who were the Annunaki that went to Mars) and their mission to Mars provides at least some basis for the claims that the ruins are just that - ruins. From the past, as most ruins are. Of course, since much of this information has been translated by one man for the most part - Sitchin - it behove the minions of Majestic to smear Mr. Sitchin's reputation and claims. Thus, to my mind and that of many others, the murmured rumors that said Martian ruins are "from our future" has no credible basis in logic, despite the brilliant theories put forth - most of which titillate the intellect without resonating in harmony with the myriad sources of other related data. Such theories about "ruins from our future" does help the disinfo campaign, however; in fact, at one time it fostered within Burisch a naive belief in the efficacy of the so-called Butterfly Effect.

Naturally, as always, I'm open to logic that suggests otherwise, and especially to evidence that proves otherwise. The idea that Burisch was publicly put at odds with David Wilcock to support a theory that David's own concepts were "dangerous" is interesting and worthy of examination, but in the final analysis there is nothing really "dangerous" in those concepts that would disturb "Domestic Tranquility". The end result may be much musing, much mental contorting over 'string theory' or 'page theory' or 'card theory' (I love those cat pictures, btw!), but nothing alarming. In fact, Majestic loves to see the hoi poloi musing, arguing among themselves, squawking, haranguing, pondering, etc, but when these same citizens seemingly disappear to soberly plan for the exposure of key puppets, routes and entrances to their hidey-holes, keys to accessing financial data, etc, that's when they become worried and attempt to discredit them, cut them off from media access, block publication of their works, withhold medicines, poison their bodies, spy on them, etc. Especially when those things are being done in secret.

Regarding the alleged 'Disclosure' date of Nov 27th; so long as David holds to "now this is what I was told, by unknown insiders who haven't the courage to swear to this on their own, but I don't necessarily believe it and here's why", then his views wouldn't share the same fate as the Next Big Date For Disclosure. The temptation is to eagerly swallow these pronouncements by unknown 'insiders' and align oneself with them, which ends up getting them burned.

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'1000ft-long UFOs were NOT Chinese lanterns!'

See an interview with Jason Robinson talking about the strange sights he saw in the sky

Published Date:
15 October 2009
By Melanie Wallwork

A Lancashire man claims to have seen 1,000ft UFOs in the skies above Preston being followed by planes and helicopters.
Father-of-three Jason Robinson, who left the Army in 2005, was out walking his dog on Monday evening near his home in Threefields, Tanterton, when he saw four mysterious craft in the distance.

He was so stunned by the sight, he ran back to the house to tell his family.

The 34-year-old said: "I was an air defender and I had to recognise military planes and civilian planes.

"I had to know every plane and they were definitely not what we had. We all witnessed that the traffic in the sky above where they were was horrendous. You'd never see that anywhere.

"There must have been other people who saw them because they were huge. If you go off the size of a plane, say 60 feet wide. These must have been at least 1,000 feet – that's how big they were.

"It doesn't look big on there (the phone camera screen) but you can't even see the planes on there – that's how big these are to them. You can't come out with 'they're Chinese lanterns.'"

The sighting is the latest in a long list of unexplained reports in Lancashire – particularly Preston.

Mr Robinson's theory is that the craft were in the area due to nuclear weapons being kept at Fulwood Barracks.

He said: "They move them around. They only go round where they are.

"We saw loads of plane activity and helicopters in the background, obviously military. Being a military person, I know the difference between military and civilian.

"With there being about four helicopters out there, at least, I know Lancashire Police only have one helicopter.

"There must have been about 15 to 20 planes surrounding them, following. I reported it to the police, they said they had no reports."

Jason's two sons, Samuel and Joseph, his girlfriend Tara Hughes, 32, and her mother Joan also witnessed the UFOs.

Tara said: "I was amazed. I've never seen anything like that before. Just four of them all together."

Mr Robinson also has video footage which he is keen for experts to see.

He added: "I'm keeping the footage back. They'll analyse them anyway and know that they're legitimate. You can see the saucer shape."

A police spokesman said there had been no other sightings reported.


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Welcome back, Cracka! If you ever want a copy of the latest YellowBook compilation of the entire GT from start to present to 'catch up' with, let UJ or myself know and we'll get a copy to you. There's a couple of other Aussies that have a copy and could send you one too, just PM one of us. And "drbknows" is still around although invisible most of the time.


Thanks for the welcome Don. "drbknows" still going hey? Wow. I think my old handle might be still alive but I need to download msgr again as I haven't used it since. :mrgreen:


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Oct 16, 2009
The Large Hadron Collider has met with a few unforeseen accidents. Could they be a bizarre case of sabotage?

Particle physicists began thinking about the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) early in the 1980s. The LHC's predecessor, the Large Electron Positron Collider (LEP) would soon be coming to the end of its useful life, and a higher energy device was needed to investigate the so-called Higgs boson, a yet to be seen component in the theory of quantum mechanics. However, it was in 1994 that the project was finally approved by the 20 nation membership of CERN, inaugurating the start of engineering and design work.

The LHC occupies a 27 kilometer long, circular tunnel, straddling the border between Switzerland and France. Its powerful electromagnets are designed to compress and accelerate a narrow stream of protons, split it into dual, counter-rotating beams, and then collide those beams head on. Full power to the magnets was scheduled for mid-2007, with the first collisions to begin shortly thereafter.

On March 27, 2007, one of the focusing magnets failed when a high-pressure test was conducted. A chain of events resulted in the 20-ton magnet shifting off its foundation, filling the tunnel with helium gas and dust, and causing damage to 24 other magnets. The accident has meant waiting an additional two years until November 2009 before they will restart the system.

At the time of the accident, Pier Oddone, Fermilab's director, admitted to being "dumbfounded" that they had missed a "simple balance of forces" in the design, as well as in four engineering reviews. This latest accident, while the most costly by far ($21 million for repairs), is not the first one visited on the LHC.

The alarm systems repeatedly generate false alarms, alarm avalanches, and incorrect alarms. Major project failures have occurred, resulting in the cancelation of physics experiments. Increasingly high computer resources have been required to remove signal noise. The design is so delicate it requires extreme quiet. A 600 kilowatt cryogenic compressor was accidentally destroyed. Fires have broken out.

These and numerous other delays and annoyances have caused two theoretical physicists to write a paper suggesting a reason. No one but one of the paper's authors, Holger Bech Nielsen, of the Niels Bohr Institute in Copenhagen, can put it more succinctly:

“It must be our prediction that all Higgs producing machines shall have bad luck... Well, one could even almost say that we have a model for God.” It is their guess, said Dr. Nielsen, “that He rather hates Higgs particles, and attempts to avoid them.” In other words, either God or some other force in the future is sending negative influences back through time, so that the discovery of the Higgs boson can never take place. :awe :alien :awe

Nielsen and Masao Ninomiya of the Yukawa Institute for Theoretical Physics in Kyoto, Japan, are authors of several papers discussing this unorthodox theory: “Search for Future Influence From LHC,” for instance.

Influences from the future attempting to prevent something from taking place in the past—our present—to ensure the creation of that future? The discovery of the Higgs boson is, according to Nielsen and Ninomiya, so antithetical to the future's existence that the future is protecting itself by causing the machines capable of finding the particle to fail or never be built.

As mentioned in a previous Picture of the Day, it is not the intent of the Thunderbolts Project to unduly criticize those who earn their daily bread in the employ of University laboratories or government-backed research institutes. In this case, though, to have Dr. Nielson, one of the originators of string theory, and a respected theoretician, publish a paper that seriously considers time travel and clairvoyant effects from a preexisting future to be a reason for the failure of machines like the LHC smacks of irony.

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UFO crop circle witnesses come forward



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In July of 1996 one of the most complex and spectacular crop circle designs ever
seen appeared in a field opposite Stonehenge. The design became known as “The
Julia Set” because it resembled the mathematical fractal called by that name. The
formation was remarkable not only because of its complexity and beauty but also
due to several anomalies associated with its discovery.

It arrived in daylight on a sunny day opposite a busy tourist spot surrounded by high
traffic roads such as the A303. What is exceptional about this event is that it is the
first time the window of arrival can be narrowed down.

The formation was first spotted from an aircraft at 6:15 PM. The pilot crossed over
the field with a passenger (a medical doctor taking pictures) at 5:30 PM and both
reported that there was no formation in the field at that time. This is corroborated by
the security guards at Stonehenge who claimed the formation was not in the field
earlier in the day. The pilot landed his plane at the nearest airfield, the passenger
disembarked, and the pilot refuelled for another flight. The pilot took off again and
crossed the field at 6:15 when he saw the Julia Set formation in the field. At about
the same time (6:30) his previous passenger drove past Stonehenge to see cars
pulled off the side of the busy road. These cars will prove important to today’s new
release.

The airspace around Stonehenge is secure airspace due to the proximity of the top
secret air base of Boscombe Down. This means that all flights are monitored and
reports are made. In my investigations of the claimed events I made inquiries with
security at Stonehenge, the flight tower at Boscombe down, and checked police logs
at Hampshire & Wiltshire Police control rooms. There was no evidence of anything
occurring in the field before the sighting at 6:15 PM. This is the first report of a
formation created in broad daylight in a busy area with no witnesses. Or were there?

Other anomalies of this sight showed up during field investigations. I spent several
days with a team of researchers examining all aspects of the formation; taking soil
and plant samples, dowsing, measuring magnetic flux patterns, and interviewing
people. We discovered that the design was energetically connected to Stonehenge
by magnetic flux lines (below). When I interviewed the Wiltshire Police I was told that
the police emergency lines received several 999 calls just before 6.00 PM reporting
a large number of vehicles pulled off the road causing a hazard.

What has recently been revealed is that the people in those cars may well have
seen the formation forming. According to researcher Lucy Pringle, a woman has
come forward to say that a taxi driver and passenger were with the parked vehicles
and the occupants could not believe what they witnessed. They stood for 20
minutes witnessing this large design form under a swirling cloud of mist. The full
story can be read on Lucy Pringles website at (below).

According to Lucy’s report, she gave a talk in April, 2009 at Alton College in
Hampshire. Shortly afterwards a friend telephoned her to say that “a friend of hers
had been in a taxi and had mentioned to the taxi driver that she had just been to a
fascinating talk on Crop Circles. M, the taxi driver, said: I saw one appear opposite
Stonehenge.” Lucy soon realized the formation being discussed was the Julia Set
of 1996.

Lucy writes, “She mentioned that when people see maybe two cars or more pulled in
and looking down into the field, other cars stop and gradually the traffic builds up
and more and more cars draw in to have a look.” What the group saw is described:
“There was an apparition, an isolated mist over it (the formation) and as the circle
was getting bigger the mist was rising above the circle. As the mist rose it got bigger
and the corn circle got bigger. There was a mist was about 2-3 feet off the ground
and it was sort of spinning around and on the ground a circular shape was
appearing which seemed to get bigger and bigger as simultaneously the mist gets
bigger and bigger and swirled faster. It was gradual and you are standing there and
you are thinking what is going on and everyone is discussing it and more and more
traffic is building up and everything and you just think that all the time you don't
really realise what is happening and then you think then that's it and the thing is
getting bigger and you are thinking of the beginning and end. But you don't realise
what you are looking at. I didn’t understand what was happening.”


Lucy continues in her report to say that there was a clear space between the
ground and the mist as the crop circle formed and there was no wind or dust.

Lucy’s witness reports that the event took about 20 minutes to form although they
can’t be sure because they lost track of time. When they left the mist was still there
and they can’t be sure the formation wasn’t still expanding. It may have taken more
than 20 minutes to create.

Please go to Lucy Pringles' website for the full story. At this point there are no other
witnesses coming forward having seen either the mist or the formation of the crop
circle. It was widely believed at the time that people gathering at the side of the road
were looking at the completed formation. Further investigation of these claims must
occur for validation.

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Hi, DonDep -

Thank you for your very thoughtful and well-considered - as always - comments on the Wilcock issue.

To clarify my speculations about the "time travel factor" in visiting Mars, I quite agree that the DSM Pyramid and Cydonia complex etc is very likely that of an ancient civilization, perhaps of the Igigi/Annunaki. And that such is indicated in the ancient records of Sumeria, Babylonia, etc.

What I'm referring to in my "time travel/jumproom" comments is the suggestion by contemporary witnesses that they travelled to a place of modern underground military construction, some of it apparently reusing these ancient redoubts but in an entirely modern context. And that the "photo anomalies" will sometimes show these modern aberrations - in now you see it, now you don't fashion.

And I share your sense that we're only allowed to play in our little park here because the PTB permit it - the better to keep an eye on us children. But most of what goes on in our forums, conferences, etc never rises to the level of requiring obvious dissing and active denial by the PTB - which is why I'm so amused when poor Dan & Co take dead aim at someone; you know their target is telling an "unapproved" truth. I sense, as I've said, that something about Wilcock's growing visibility and credibility - and the fact that he just might be on the trail of something big: 'Here's the underlying physics of instant space/time travel, folks, build your own time machine....' is something that the PTB would not want in the public domain - especially if they've been using same for, oh, thirty years now for their own purposes.... Not to mention the rest of the story that unravels from there...

Ooooh. I just noticed the "popcorn" icon: :popcorn Save me a ringside seat for this one!

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A great summary of the UFO data leading up to possible Nov 27 2009 disclosure date. The kind of video clips you can give people that haven't been exposed to ufo communitty, nothing but experts on the interviews.. can't dispute nor debunk former Apollo astronauts. :)

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UFO Disclosure May Be Imminent !! - 1 of 2

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Rick, Did a quick search for The Internationals

Found a dance band:

http://www.theinternationals.com/

The 2009 President's Cup Team:

http://www.pgatour.com/2009/tournaments/presidentscup/09/22/team_international/index.html

The Internationals Network for Public Schools

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Internationals_Network_for_Public_Schools

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Uncle John here: Welcome new members.

Welcome back Crackajack. The kind of unifying purpose of the posters of the Golden Thread has been to decipher the mystery of offworlders involvement on our planet and the very strange behavior of the parts of government that handle this. IMO, Cracka had the combination of the best mind and the best attitude of any that have ever posted here. Dondep and I have talked in private many times that wouldn't it be wonderful if Cracka and Boomer would be regular posters again. You have been missed Cracka.

One of the things that we do here on the Golden Thread is analyze and critique the presentations of the insiders and researchers in the offworlder field. We try to do this with respect and kindness, unless of course, we are dealing with the thug mentality of dan and his associates.

IMO, the latest leader in this field is the wonderful interviews at http://www.projectcamelot.org . I really appreciate the work of Kerry and Bill, though many times I have disagreed with their conclusions and their swallowing their interviewer's stories without critical questions. It seems that they are certainly mindful of keeping the persons interviewed happy and this shows me that they are susceptible to the same kind of blindness as the rest of us.

PC's latest presentation was a interview with Jordan Maxwell. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jJKue2Ff6o

It was obvious to me that Jordan Maxwell was deluded and led around by negative agenda offworlders. He kept talking about how positive offworlders had contacted him, led him into his research and were protecting him.

Twice he stated that he was in a situation where he felt he was struck by a electric force and was led by his positive offworlder protectors to run from his current location to several blocks away, in the process running out of breath and doing so without conscious control of his own movements.

I've never stated it on the Golden Thread before, but I feel I have unseen protectors or guides myself. I consider these imagined protectors or guides to be on the positive path. If at anytime these protectors would interrupt my state of mind with a escape scene, I would ignore them and soon thereafter seek to replace them. I have been in these situations before. I expect my protectors and guides to have good enough taste to warn me well before any out of control escape scene would come into play. I have been tested as to whether I believe this situation so I have a lot of confidence in my understanding.

So my conclusion is that Jordan Maxwell is under the spell of offworlders with negative agendas.

IMO, Kerry and Bill would never even consider what I'm posting about. They are too wrapped up in the production they have created. This is not to say that this production is not great and valuable.

Jordan would probably be as receptive to this input as dan was.

Funny, the song "Maxwell Jump" keeps playing in my mind. LOL.


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Just like to share some private correspondence. Don't ask me who this person is. I won't tell you! :) Don't ask me what their position is .. I won't tell you! :) I will say that he or she is in the VERY VERY thick of things when it comes to UFO / Alien Disclosure and soon..

Here is what we face ladies and gentlemen..

ELE = Extinction Level Event ..


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[censored to protect identity]

However, keep in mind that when we see things posted that are not accurate or are misrepresented we will reply. We have to be sure we are clear on our information.

Here's the good news and this is confidential. If we do not clean up our act and correct what we are doing to this planet the XXXXXXXXX will not help us. I say good news because this means we are empowered and will not have an overt intervention that will dis-empower us. The XXXXXXXX have decided that they cannot lifeboat us out of an ELE. It is just to daunting, even for these ETs. Now does this mean another ET race could help us? I don't know. Moreover, we may be able to do it ourselves. Given we survive per Drake's equation.

Remember, the problems facing us on this planet is your fault. It is my fault. It is our father's father's fault. It is the elite's fault. It is the ignorant s fault. It is the fault of our specie. We are all in the same boat and this ET race looks at us in this way. Yes, this is not fair. However, who ever said life is fair?

Now what can we do to insure the survival of our specie? Is it worth saving? Can we grow spiritually and evolve responsibly with what technology we possess? Can we live in balance with nature on this planet? Can we plan for our children children and provide, and think generations ahead?

I think we can if we admit ET is here. I know we can if we have contact. Why? Everything changes and a plethora of possibilities open up to challenge the system that we as specie have created.

All the Best,

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Shady from your informants lips to a news agency near us..

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I'm assuming disclosure will occur before extinction. If not, disclosure will fall upon dead ears.


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midnight wrote:
I'm assuming disclosure will occur before extinction. If not, disclosure will fall upon dead ears.


:awe A very sobering thought! But "no wukkas", as Cracka used to say...... I don't for one minute believe extinction will occur. There is always a "leavening" with which to make the new batch. Once the curtain falls on this production, the actors and actresses will awaken to total disclosure, but as I was discussing with MK earlier, it's my belief we will only have a fulsome Disclosure at the point where it's almost moot. Any 'Disclosure' that doesn't include the men (and at least one woman) of Majestic/Sion/Scion covering the complete gamut of the illegal ET 'treaties' can't be trusted. And it will only be possible to trust what THEY say once the strictures of the Nat'l Security Oath are lifted from the men and women who have sworn to it, thus providing for a system of checks and balances. While Dan Burisch's "disclosure" contains a lot of truth, it only discloses what ONE side persuaded some in Majestic of, which as we've seen was largely a pack of lies.

Majestic is itself the missing capstone in the Nat'l Security Act of 1947.

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Runaway Balloon Story Proven A Hoaxed Publicity Stunt

Hot off Victor Martinez' ufer presses:

Victor Martinez, in an email a few minutes ago, wrote:

http://gawker.com/5383858/exclusive-i-h ... lloon-hoax

WORLDWIDE BOMBSHELL EXCLUSIVE!
"I HELPED PUBLICITY SEEKER RICHARD HEENE PLAN A 'BOY-IN-THE-UFO BALLOON'
HOAX EARLIER THIS YEAR!" /
HOAXER RICHARD HEENE BELIEVES THAT HILLARY CLINTON IS A SHAPE-SHIFTING
REPTILIAN ALIEN and THAT THE UPPER ECHELON OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT ARE
ALSO SHAPE-SHIFTING REPTILIAN ALIENS! /
SAYS IT ALL STARTED WITH THE ROSWELL INCIDENT OF 1947! / BELIEVES THAT A
LARGE-SCALE SOLAR FLARE WILL WIPE OUT ALL LIFE ON EARTH COME DECEMBER
2012! –
By Robert Thomas, Gawker.com, Sunday, October 18, 2009, 12:28 a.m.

HOAX FLASH-BANG GRENADE: He told me, "Rob, you need to turn on the TV
immediately! That Richard guy you worked with just pulled a MASSIVE
PUBLICITY STUNT!"

BREAKING – For the first time, 25-year-old researcher Robert Thomas
reveals to Gawker how earlier this year he and Richard Heene drew up a
master plan to generate a massive media controversy using a weather
balloon. To get famous, of course.

Thomas spent several months earlier this year working on developing a
reality science TV show to pitch to networks — the "show," Thomas
says, that Falcon was referring to when he told CNN "We did it for the
show."

Among the ideas that Heene, Thomas and two others came up with for their
reality TV proposal — and one that he says most intrigued Heene —
involved a weather balloon modified to look like a UFO which they would
launch in an attempt to drum up media interest in both the Heene family
and the series he was desperate to get on the air.

Still, Thomas never imagined that Heene would involve his 6-year-old son
in what he is certain was a "GLOBAL MEDIA HOAX" to further Richard
Heene's own celebrity. Thomas' story of his time with Heene, based on an
interview with Ryan Tate, follows below. It's a fascinating account and
after he publicly offered to sell his story, we paid him for it.

I came to Fort Collins for school — Colorado State University. I was a
Web entrepreneur, starting a few small companies that evolved into a
larger scale project called http://www.Extropedia.org, an open source
online encyclopedia for advancing humanity through technology and
science.

Doing research for the project on Google and YouTube, I stumbled upon
Richard Heene and his video series Psyience Detectives. I was surprised
to find this potential collaborator in the small city of Fort Collins.
Since a very young age, I've been fascinated with electromagnetics,
applied physics and how technologies developed out of those concepts
could that change the world. Richard was studying basically the same
thing. He asserted, for example, that tornadoes and hurricanes are not a
result of changes in pressure but of magnetic polarity changes within
the Earth.

I sent him an email in March, talking about Extropedia, a web site I
founded and hope to re-launch soon. Things progressed. Soon I was
dropping in unannounced, having dinner. I'd bring various patents from
the 50s and 60s that showcased technologies far more advanced than what
we use today, and we discussed why they weren't being used. That was
when Richard first started telling me about his conspiracy theories —
which would eventually reveal themselves to be both extreme and
paranoid.

HUNGER FOR STARDOM

There was something else at work, though. Oddly enough, Richard's
sampling of stardom from being on Wife Swap — twice — gave him a
sense of seniority in our scientific conversations. They became less and
less about what I had to contribute and more and more about what Richard
wanted.

And he wanted nothing more than to get another reality TV series.
Richard had an ongoing dialog with someone at ABC who helped produce
Wife Swap. Richard was pitching something along the lines of
"MythBusters-meets-mad scientist."

There would be these esoteric abstract experiments attempting to prove
or disprove various theories. My job was to help him prepare a formal
proposal. For each of 52 weekly episodes, to explain specifically what
the subject would be, and why.

See the full REALITY TV proposal here:
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http://gawker.com/5383859/abc-reality-s ... rob-thomas

As the days progressed I became basically a stenographer. Richard was
very hyperactive, and I would type out his ideas as quickly as I could.
It was five hours of us brainstorming, or really Richard pouring his
ideas out, then an additional ten hours of me taking his thoughts,
cleaning them up, and making them linear and easier to understand.

I would hyperlink the various scientific theories he mentioned for the
people at ABC. I was to be paid $15 per hour, per a verbal agreement.
More crucially, if and when and the reality series and was picked up by
ABC, I would be one of his lead research assistants on the show.

I was very receptive to the idea of filtering esoteric science for the
general population. A show would allow us to take the TV network's money
and use it to fund real experimentation, to buy equipment unavailable to
me as a student and an entrepreneur. We could experiment with
electromagetics, crystal formation and new types of materials.

Richard, on the other hand, was often driven by ego and fame. He was all
about controversy, hoping to whip up something significant enough to
eliminate our reality TV competitors. He wanted episodes that would
shock people and maximize his exposure. And he'd been trying for months.
On several occasions, he sat down and told me he'd do whatever it took
to make it happen — to win. He eventually resorted to extreme
measures.

The UFO IDEA ... AND THE END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT IN 2012

One night, when Richard and I were sitting and talking, he brought up
Wife Swap, and specifically a confrontation he had with a woman on the
show who claimed to be a psychic. They very much disliked one other.
Richard said, "Well, think about it. We were the 100th episode of Wife
Swap. And why are we the most recognized Wife Swap family and episode?
It's because of the controversy. I don't care what people say about me
as a person, but the fact of the matter is that they know who I am."

And then we delved into the area of UFOs. I was reading a book on
witness reports of ROSWELL at the time, just out of curiousity — I've
never concluded whether it really took place or was an elaborate hoax.
And Richard said, "how much do you want to bet we could facilitate some
sort of a media stunt that would be equally profound as Roswell, and we
could do so with nothing more than a weather balloon and some
controversy?"

See item #16 here:

"Can we attract UFO's with a homemade flying saucer? We will modify a
weather balloon, so that it resembles a UFO and will electrically charge
the skin of the craft (Biefield-Brown Effect). We will capture the
footage on film, and will utilize the media as a means with which to
make our presence known to the masses. This will not only provide us
with incredible footage, but will also generate a tremendous amount of
controversy among the public, as well as publicity within the mainstream
media.

"This will be the most significant UFO-related news event to take place
since the Roswell Crash of 1947, and the result will be a dramatic
increase in local and national awareness about The Heene Family, our
Reality Series, as well as the UFO Phenomenon in general."

I clearly remember Richard telling me that, if we accomplish this, it
would be the most controversial and widespread UFO news story since
Roswell in 1947. But he was motivated by theories I thought were
far-fetched. Like REPTILIANS — the idea there are alien beings that
walk among us and are shape shifters, able to resemble human beings and
running the upper echelon of our government.

Somehow a SECRET GOVERNMENT has covered all this up since the U.S. was
established, and the only way to get the truth out there was to use the
mainstream media to raise Richard to a status of celebrity, so he could
communicate with the masses.

As the weeks progressed, his theories got more and more extreme and
paranoid. A lot of it surrounded 2012, and the possibility of there
being an apocalyptic moment. Richard likes to talk a lot about the
possibility of the Sun erupting in a large-scale solar flare that wipes
out the Earth. It got to the point where he was really pressing me,
saying we're running out of time, we're running out of time, the end of
the world is coming.

And we have to take necessary precautions to make sure that we're not
among the majority that's going to be killed. It got to the point where
I was just nodding my head and going along with what he said, because it
was easier than trying to debate with him.

FALCON's FISHY FLIGHT INCIDENT

When my friends called me about the whole balloon episode I was working.
I had just moved to a new place and didn't have my television set up. I
probably would never even have heard about this, except that a good
friend of mine remembered me telling him about Richard several months
ago. He told me, "Rob, you need to turn on the TV immediately! That
Richard guy you worked with just pulled a massive publicity stunt!"

Richard's story doesn't add up. He is saying he thought Falcon was in
the balloon, and that Falcon ran and hid as a result of Richard yelling
at him. I've spent a lot of time with them, and Falcon is, first of all,
not afraid of his father. I've never once seen Richard's children afraid
of him — and I've definitely never seen Falcon go hide. He was one of
the most social of the three children.

Secondly, Falcon supposedly hid in that attic in the garage. I've spent
a lot of time in his garage, which has a drill press and various welding
tools. It's unorganized and chaotic. There's really not so much an attic
as some support beams connected with plywood. Being an adult of average
height, I couldn't get up into the attic if I'd wanted to, so I don't
know how a six-year-old child could have gotten up there.

There's not an easy way to access that overhang. Maybe if I'd lifted
that child up into the attic, he might have been able to rest up there,
but not comfortably. My doubts and concerns about that story were
verified when Falcon's parents asked him on CNN, "why didn't you come
out?"

And Falcon said, "you guys said we did this for the show." Lights went
off in my head. Bells were ringing; whistles were whistling. I said,
"Wow, Richard is using his children as pawns to facilitate a global
media hoax that's going to give him enough publicity to temporarily
attract A-list celebrity status and hopefully attract a network."

The PRICE OF DESPERATION

Desperate times call for desperate measures, and I think in this case
the desperation was too much for Richard to bear. Richard's construction
business wasn't doing too well. It's hard to find people interested in
spending money on the aesthetics of their home when they're worried
about their mortgage.

A lot of the work I did with the Heene family related to passing out
fliers, putting them on people's front doors. The fliers advertised a
roofing business and a general handyman business. As the months
progressed, Richard's paranoia increased exponentially and my paycheck
decreased exponentially. The work I put in for the ABC proposal was
never compensated. Richard implied he didn't have the money to pay me.
But he would always reassure me, "It's all going to pay off in the end."

But, in "the end," Richard didn't think about the implications of his
behavior. He certainly didn't consider the people that were praying for
his child, and the hundreds, maybe thousands of people that were
inconvenienced in pursuit of this balloon. The thousands of dollars of
taxpayer money spent on things that weren't necessary.

Bluntly, I think Richard's ego blinds him to his brilliance. The only
thing inhibiting him from progressing is a steadfast determination to
become famous and live a Hollywood lifestyle. Someone needs to slap him
in the face and say, "Wake up! This is not what's important." He has an
amazing family that has already been subject to a tremendous amount of
criticism. I especially feel bad for Falcon.

He's going to be known as "Balloon Boy" the rest of his life. That's not
something you want to tell a girl on the first date.
For me, it's been quite the experience. I don't regret any of it. I
learned a lot from Richard. Not necessarily what I should do but rather
what I should not do, in my career path and in my goals. It allowed me
to question, "What do I find of value in the world?"

And I was led to the conclusion that the only thing that matters to me
is my friends and family and loved ones. Everything else is details. If
the world were going to end tomorrow, like a lot of Richard's theories
on 2012, who would you go to? Would you go to a bunch of investors for
some company or a reality show? Or would you go to your family and
friends?
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1. However, keep in mind that when we see things posted that are not accurate or are misrepresented we will reply. We have to be sure we are clear on our information.

2.Here's the good news and this is confidential. If we do not clean up our act and correct what we are doing to this planet the XXXXXXXXX will not help us.
.....
3. Given we survive per Drake's equation.[/i]
.....
4. However, who ever said life is fair?

5. Now what can we do to insure the survival of our specie? Is it worth saving? Can we grow spiritually and evolve responsibly with what technology we possess? Can we live in balance with nature on this planet? Can we plan for our children children and provide, and think generations ahead?

6. I think we can if we admit ET is here. I know we can if we have contact. Why? Everything changes and a plethora of possibilities open up to challenge the system that we as specie have created.



OK here we go, with some questions:

#1 Can we have regular consistent reply, there are question I want to find the answers to. So do I type them in this forum and If I do not hear from your ET friends then it is the truth?

#2 I take this means results not just words. We need to get mentored in how to motivate and organized to create ACTION. We also need new ideas and tools to get off non renewable energy sources, so many people have talked about the environment but what we need is a life change event to change our life style, something that changes our precepts. Something that show us everything we know is wrong that the PTB are lie cheating scounderals and that the basis of history, politics, religion and science has clouded our minds to the life in the UNIVERSE. So maybe contact could Awaken Humans to the reality of the Universe.

#3 what is Drake equation?

#4 There is no justice in the Universe? wow, or is this tough love. I agree we need to "just do it", we are out of time and need to grow.

#5 Mentor us, show us, teach us to, would not the first step be to strip away the lies, and dishonesty that prevail in the power structures around us?

#6 Yes some of us know ET is here, and we tell others, but we could use a little help here MR. ET, you need to parade up and down the street and go beep, beep. This is the first step and need not convey any information. The parade has to last long enough for the message to sink in, that the PTB knew long ago and do not have all the power. Once the people relies that they can do as well or better at figuring out the Universe and what the real truth is about ET, the PTB will have to acquiesce to the people. People with out fear ruling them (fear of not having proper shelter, food or heath) will then be able to rational discuss what it means to be Human and what needs to be done to ensure the survival of Human race. This being that we live on the space ship Earth and it is our mother, we respect and care for it. We do this as a relationship to Earth for the things that Earth provides to us like food,water, etc.


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1. However, keep in mind that when we see things posted that are not accurate or are misrepresented we will reply. We have to be sure we are clear on our information.


ELE=incoming Geographical Poleshif!

Quote:
2.Here's the good news and this is confidential. If we do not clean up our act and correct what we are doing to this planet the XXXXXXXXX will not help us.


The STS Anunnaki were banned from Earth...Caused they come here and Started the Treaties!
then the Other Alien Races came...

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3. Given we survive per Drake's equation.[/i]


False: Image

Cause:
a-The Drake equation consists of a large number of probabilities multiplied together. Since each factor is guaranteed to be somewhere between 0 and 1, the result is also guaranteed to be a reasonable-looking number between 0 and 1. Unfortunately, all the probabilities are completely unknown, making the result worse than useless.

b- the very form of the Drake equation assumes that civilizations arise and then die out within their original solar systems. If interstellar colonization is possible, then this assumption is invalid, and the equations of population dynamics would apply instead.

see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation

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4. However, who ever said life is fair?

Is only to choose Bettwen STS or STO...

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5. Now what can we do to insure the survival of our specie? Is it worth saving? Can we grow spiritually and evolve responsibly with what technology we possess? Can we live in balance with nature on this planet? Can we plan for our children children and provide, and think generations ahead?


Just Depend of the Orientation selected to go to the Next Stage of Evolution (on 4D)
Analizing every question here on both orientations...

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6. I think we can if we admit ET is here. I know we can if we have contact. Why? Everything changes and a plethora of possibilities open up to challenge the system that we as specie have created.
Everything revolves here of what kind of Contact he refers...
-back to the 1940's and 1950's the "contact" was on STS Aliens...
-Then the STO ALiens Balances the Equation!

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I'm assuming disclosure will occur before extinction. If not, disclosure will fall upon dead ears.
Remember that "extinction" means: "In biology and ecology, extinction is the end of an organism or group of taxa. The moment of extinction is generally considered to be the death of the last individual of that species (although the capacity to breed and recover may have been lost before this point). Because a species' potential range may be very large, determining this moment is difficult, and is usually done retrospectively. "
more at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extinction
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Post Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 2009 5.0
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Just like to share some private correspondence. Don't ask me who this person is. I won't tell you! :) Don't ask me what their position is .. I won't tell you! :) I will say that he or she is in the VERY VERY thick of things when it comes to UFO / Alien Disclosure and soon..

Here is what we face ladies and gentlemen..

ELE = Extinction Level Event ..
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[censored to protect identity]


Uncle John here: Hi Nightshade, have you been secretly communicating with Nancy?

If some group could accurately see our immediate future, don't you think they would have been able to see this future ten thousand years ago? If so, then why save all the drama till the last minute?

The next big event in human destiny is for humans to solve the mystery of this age old chant.

Oh Wa, Ta Goo, Siam.

Repeat out loud, over and over again, till you get it. ROTFLMAO.


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V- we Mean You No Harm

http://www.disclose.tv/viewvideo/31663/ ... n_No_Harm/

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