Thanks for the very kind words UJ.

I believe it is the diversity and combination of many minds which sustain longevity in discussion forums such as this. That diversity allows us to consider ideas which may not immediately resonate within our own world view. As we learn/research/experience and grow our world view changes and some of those ideas which remain lodged in our memories come to the fore for new consideration. As an example, one of those ideas you implanted in my memory long ago was that "our minds are not located inside our heads". (I wonder how many times the current membership has heard that one?) I have heard and read of many instances where that idea is entirely plausible to me. Before being introduced to the idea I would not have considered it as an option or possible alternative.

I probably won't be a regular poster anywhere for the immediate future, but it is nice to "see" some old faces and meet some new ones.

Speaking of old faces, I just read another one. Wyz!! Great to see you man. I hope things are going well for you.

Cheers

Ok I needed a few hours to digest the latest information myself before expanding on it.

1. The ELE event is not in our immediate future. It is a few generations off yet enough for us to ’get our act together as a spices.

2. If we do ‘get our act together’ as a spices and start cooperating as one planet we may very well assure that a great deal of this planet survives including the human spices Without ‘external intervention.’

If we don’t get our act together. Then in a few generations its “good bye Earth, good bye human spices.. And Earth ends up as footnote in the ‘Encyclopedia Galatica’ as civilization that had potentual but did not survive the Drake Equation..

‘They’ the head guys ‘out there’ are not going to let the Earth go that route. Key word “Earth” not humanity. They WILL intervene in last minute and save the Earth and what SMALL percentage of humanity they can. But this future humanity is be basically museum pieces, relics of a dead civilization, inter galactic refugees without a home and without a civilization. They will be ‘integrated’ into civilizations out there.

Akin to Whoopi Goldberg’s charater (and what remained of her race after the Borg) in Star Trek Next Generation.

When “They” intervene. They won’t be saving humanity period. They will be rescuing (Full blown rescue mission) what they can of Earth and its bio-diversity on top of it picking out the genetically viable most fit to survive of us out of general population and taking them. The Rest well we go down with the Titantic.

3. Our Powers that Be have been REPEATEDLY warned that this ELE is coming since ’First Contact’ in the mid 1900s. That ‘They’ can’t rescue the entire planet they simply don’t have the resources. Yet if we Humanity would simply get our ’shyt together’ as a planet and spices they would be more then willing to give us all the technological knowledge they have so that WE could assure our survival if we ’bucked up’ rolled our sleeves as ONE Planet, ONE Civilization and got to work.

They are more then willing to give us all the knowledge and technology they posses.

But “We” as Spices MUST demonstrate to them out there. That once they give us this knowledge and technology its going to be put to the use its Intended (PERIOD) Namely saving the Planet and Ourselves.

To date, our Planet hasn’t shown any Signs that it would and on top of it our Powers That Be behind the scenes want the knowledge and technology FOR THEMSELVES in order to assure their survival and damn the rest.

‘They’ simply won’t allow that. In the mean time they have been conducting a genetic survey of this planet, cataloging and recording what they will be taking during the ‘Last minute Intervention’ before ELE. And sorry folks what it appears the ET’s are interested in filling those “arks” is a lot more of the Planets Bio-Diversity for transplant then Human beings!”

4. In the last 30-20 years behind the scenes (since Reagan) enough of the Powers That Be and Elite Egghead Intellectuals have realized that “They” are not BS’ing us about ELE event. Since 30-20 years ago they have come up with a “World Wide Marshall Plan” (alla USA Marshall Plan following WWII for Europe) to prepare the Earth for the coming ELE. An Preparations for our greatest challenge a Spieces : Surivial post ELE.

As with any Emergency Plan, drastic almost Police State messures must take place.

Among these..

a) ONE WORLD GOVERNEMENT! Globalization NOW! Not Tommorrow or in the Future but NOW! Time is running out.
b) Population Control.. First stabilization of our out of control population, Rationing of Natural Resources, VOLUTNERRY population reduction such as Birth Control, Sterilization, With current target being (several generations in the future at the time of ELE) of 1 billion to 500 million.

Why only 500 million? Well think of it in terms of the story of Noah’s Ark. Finite Space and Finite Resources. You have to pick out a core “Seed” population that will replenish the Earth after the Flood.

The Population Control is heated issue behind the Scenes.. The Good Guys want slow and steady over several generations with the seed core being chosen out of all Humanities Population. On the other hand Our Illuminati pals. “The hell with it we can’t risk it! Off them all now! And assure OUR (The Elites Survival.”
c. World Government control of ALL Resources, Natural, Human, Technological etc etc etc.. ALL geared in the direction of preparing for the ELE and our Survival of it…

5. The Marshall Plan has left planning stage and is ALREADY being implemented behind the scenes..

In return…

STAGE ONE DISCLOSURE:

THEY our ET Friends are starting to realize We’ve started and may be serious…

In return.. Next Stage.. PUBLIC FIRST CONTACT In mass.. 2014-2017.

Effect? Of them appearing in our skies in mass??

Solidifying the FACT in Human Psychology. Look your ONE Planet, ONE Spieces, One Civilization of MANY out here.. Its time to put your petty differences aside.. Come together as One Race One Planet… and journey out into the Stars to Join Us.

Humanity won’t be told of dire straights we’re in.. until a few generations out… By that time.. We’ll be working in tandem with THEM. We’ll have advanced technology and resources… and its hoped that Panic won’t set in.. When Humanity is told of the ELE.


Enclosing,

Right now the Marshall Plan is being implemented behind the scenes.. This is the reason for Old Economic System Collapse, Implication of Global Governance/New World Order/One World Government, Bye bye National Boarder, Nationalism, Bye Bye Free Market Capitalism,

Hello One World Government, One World Policy, One World Military, One World

2009 - 2014 ad

CNN Special Report from Oval Office “We are here today to correct a mistake committed over 60 years at Roswell New Mexico and since by certain factions within the world governments. We have been and are being visited by Extraterrestrial Life…. “


2014 - 2017 ad

CNN Reporting SPECIAL REPORT…. We are picking up Massive Alien Craft Materializing Over London, Washington, Moscow, Beijing…

A few weeks later Formal Address to UN and by Then World Government.



in one to two generations….

STAR FLEET, Hello United Federation of Planets! And FINAL FULL Disclosure…

“We came to you Earth to prepare you for the greatest threat any spices or civilization can face in this galaxy and universe.. We came to prepare you for your survival against an Extinction Level Event to your planet and civilization…. You have now the resources and will to assure the survival of your Spices and Civilization. Much will be lost, but much will Survive and Go forward……”


That is the plan Ladies and Gentlemen… That is what is HOPED will happen…

It all hinges upon the next 2 decades…

Will our Powers That Be… have the will to Disclose and SOON!

And What will be HUMANITIES Reaction to what’s coming in 2012-2017... If we freak out sort speak come the Mass Public Disclosure.. If our society and governments spin out of control..

THEY WILL SIMPLY LEAVE and it becomes a simple RESCUE Operation for them saving a small small piece of Earth and humanity for the Encyclopedia Galatica.. About 5 to 10%

But if WE get our act together and Now! Then when the ELE does happen WE might be able to save 60% to 75%.

That is the Choice We Have…


Again I’d like to say I personally don’t agree with most of it… I have my skeptism.. I am simply Reporting What I’ve Been Told..

Either case the ELE IS COMING in several generations… Do we as Spieces or Civilization have the courage to face that fact and prepare or do we go down in ignorance, chaos, gripping onto last rail of Titanic as she goes under and to the abyss??

That is up to us to decide.


Shady

Dex,

Agree that we need to be careful, but how can we also not view this movie as a STS move to frighten us into accepting the PTB/NWO.

We do not want to alined with the STS, but so far by the grace of the Higer Power Creator of the Universe we have been spared the global NWO by STS.

We can not let Fear and Doubt rule our hearts.

We have to trust and verify all senses (Heart, Mind, Soul and Body)

If we are open in communication and ask the tough question like "who do you serve MR ET." , we will be ing a going a long way to being Awake and Aware.

I thing we need ask Higher Power for the questions to ask ET to resolve the question of whether the ET being is STS or STO.

We need to discuse these insights from our prayers (meditaitons) and see we have a consenious on what consistutes a set of questions that MAY give us insight to the STS or STO alignment of ET.

MT7

Shady,

Your confidential correspondent sounds level-headed and well-informed indeed. (I haven't read you post just above yet, was writing this...)

And is very much a realist about what we as a planetary people are facing: We, all of us, bear responsibility for ourselves, our civilization and our planet. There is no “them” onto which we can conveniently shove the responsibility for our own decisions and behaviour, nor should there be. Not among us, as our favourite villains the PTB/Illuminati, nor “out there” as the Space Brothers or Space Invaders (take your pick). That is what is meant by “empowerment” – we, as individuals, as a planet and civilization have been given (lo, these many centuries!) the opportunity and the choice to grow into our own spiritual and emotional maturity, and learn to care for ourselves, our fellow beings, and our planet as our God-given birthright, ready to join the “adult” civilizations of our galaxy.

As to how well we’ve done as the clock for this cycle runs out...... Well.

I find myself thinking of the ancient tale of the 12 honest men, who each night in prayer gather the tears of the people of earth and present them to God. And for this, for the sake of these 12 alone, God spares the earth for another day....

Regards,
Selene

Ok I'd like to point out a MAJOR re-write that has just taken place at SNED's!!!

They just posted two videos at ED's main page of Burisch AND McDOWELL getting their flu mist together!!!


If you remember two weeks ago SNED's Security made a BIG BIG SHOW of it at the other forum how DAN deverted their mission for the day and went to health clinic ALONE with SNED's Security to get his Flu Mist against the knowledge of McDowell! In essence it was a SURPRISE Trip on Dan Burisch's part!!

SNED's Security also made it comment in the original Post (which is now deleted from SNED's and copy deleted here at this forum) that they wouldn't know how McDowell would take the news hearing that Dan pulled a diversion and got his flu shot FIRST!! They then assumed that McDOWELL would get hers at later date and it would be the injectable a kind.


Well take a look at the videos posted!?!? Burisch and McDowell are TOGETHER getting their mist flu shot!!

There has been another RE-WRITE and EDITING off the ORIGINAL story!!


Just like to point that out..


Shady

I call upon SNED's to immeditately provide time and date stamped footage of this supposed new video.. Time and Date stamps are STANDARD operational proceedure in a security work! Provide immeditately time and date stamps.

Or stop this 'produced' sham of both Burisch and McDowell getting to vaccaine together!


Shady

Some one adeptly point out once (who was that anyway? oh ya it was Shady!
".. Sonderkommando doing your masters bidding! Obedient minions to the end. "

And we are surprised?

It is the same game different plot, just with viruses this time instead of ET's.

They can not change, they are under the influence.

MT7

Shady,

No need to revel or name your sources.

I will assume that you have verified the source and continue to verify what is told.

I would like to find out more details on the ELE, will it be survivable?

Is it only a probability?

What probability is it?

What factors might change the outcome?

What can be done to enhance these factors?

If it is survivable where when and what do we need?

What will happen after the ELE event?

Thanks,

MT7

Shady thanks for the reply,

So the question is how do we get their hearts and minds open to listens to the truth?

What will motivate people to turn away from STS?

Or what will motivate Humans to be STO?

Words and actions are the tools we have.

Perhaps the Spirit needs to be given hope that the ELE event will be survivable in some other form than currently exists.

To get unhook in thinking as a 3d physical beings.

MT7

1. Definitely grace, thanks to Higher Power Creator of the Universe
2.

MT7

Welcome Cracka!

Please elaborate on the minds location.
Is it not physical?
Is this the turning point to find where the mind lies so we can link our mind/souls to together to vote as one STO entity?

MT7

Selene,

Do you think that it also has to be a quantity or percent of the planet that have to have #1. There are some Human that are Honest truthful and spiritual being.

On #2 I think we have been spared many many times and we not Awake and Aware enough to relies.

MT7

Hey - I don't want to be controversial here, but the ELE earth faces "as a possibility" has been known in the public forum for about 10 years now. The first time I heard about it was back in 2004 when I was shown a copy of Col. Ed Dames' documentary called "The Kill Shot" in which he explains how his team saw this clearly in several remote viewing exercises. He was so convinced by this that he made the documentary about it. As far as I know it's available commercially. Then when the movie about this was made recently, I was again made a ware of it in my study group and we watched it as a pre-Premier show here in SA in June. The discussion then was along the lines that this is ONE of the scenarios of an ELE coming in within the next 8 years at the outmost. The source of this information is very reliable in my opinion.

As for disclosure by then - I do not know.

Do we have any defence to this to stop it. I don't think so, other than getting your act together and being off planet by then. As I understand it - it is the closing of the final experiment for 3D earth, the Omega point, before she goes 5D.

Will there be options to survive it? Yes, as I understand it, biospheres will appear and lift off large numbers. This has to do with how your consciousness will have evolved/developed by then. Also well know information, and an execise some of us have been busy with for some time now...

It is documented in the Bible, that this round will end by fire.

And here's a cut from the movie of recent that gave the scenario and the survival mechanism, although very dramatasised which most would not believe in as a result imo:



This is a Spiritual thing and has to do with Consciousness and that has been known by the Ancients from the start, but the details obliterated by "history" as we've been given. I believe that is why so much is being done by the Controllers and Off-worlders to create fear and distraction so humanity misses the boat, so to speak. But there is a way to be at peace with this and not have fear ...

We have as an outside date - 2017. Time to get a lot done for humanities sake and heal things. It's what I have been busy with for the past 7 years now...

And through this work - I am not afraid of death anymore. We are all Souls on a journey to self realise and develop our Spiritual self through humility, compassion and Love.

I'm sure we can already understand what the ELE is..

If nothing is down with over population, pollution, social disparity, out of control industrialization. deforestation, etc etc... This is Earth 3000 AD..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9tJNcktVWc

Not only will we be living in a toxic atmosphere across the ENTIRE planet but we'll be DEEPLY into out of control Venus Like Global Warming.

Don't expect ANYONE to save us! "They" even united as they are DON'T Have the resources to save an entire planet of what is to projected by then 25 plus billion. Vast majority of natural resources will be GONE. Food Gone, Famine and disease and death will be merciful relief!

Nor expect any "Guys with White Hats or Wings" riding to rescue.. according to them "Thousands" of civilizations went down this route and no one saved them. So don't expect it our case.

According to them... WE are fast approaching tipping point the pivot point, the point of no return.. IF we did total 180 right now. We have a chance to avoid it all together! They don't expect it that we will be.. Thus they are here to catalog and rescue as much as this planets bio-diversity as possible. Before the Extensions begin... Once it begins it cascades and cascades like domino's.. leading to the last...

Once we pass tipping point.. that is it Extinctions will start to happen the domino's fall! The Ecosystem and Food Chain rapidly failing.. But for a short time after tipping point if we get our shyt together we might be able to save a percentile of the planet but with each pasing year more and more will be lost... it will be a race against time too DOOMSDAY in about 1000 years.


Humanity



Like I said they are more then willing to give us the combined "Wisdom and knowledge of the ages" that they've all accumated over their civilizations life times. BUT only if we demistrate to them that we're Serious about Surivial, Serious About putting 100% of that knowledge to saving ourselves and this planet. . But they don't see that we're capable of it just yet. From what they have seen in the past from our leaders. Is the moment they have given us technology. Its put to use not for the betterment of Humankind but greed, profit, and militarization of individual nation states... and warefare in order to better the few over the fate of all.

Basically they've written us off as lost cause! Among themselves the arguement is lets go to resecue mode of the biodiviersity of the planet before she goes up in Pollution and Flames.

Still another Faction of them will give us a Second Chance.. That is why they speaking to certian leaders behind the scenes that have finally "seen the light" and that is why come 2012-2017 THEY are coming out of the shadows... Appearing In Our Skies and undeniablly "Contact"

We will then be judged on our response... If its positive. We have a chance with the help they are willing to offer.. If the responjse is negitive... Then I'm afraid well we Humanity have no future..


Shady

There will be 2 Ele Events...
1st - The Pole Shift!
2nd -Betelgueuse has Exploded 500 years ago...and cause the distance to earth is just 600 light years..there remain 100 years after the poleshift...

Quoting NL/ZT:
Will this PS be the last that Earth will experience, & with the shift to 4D & 5D, will 3D be even exist in the future for Earth?

SOZT
This will be the last pole shift that Earth experiences. The Earth will move to 4th Density with the Moon and much of the bulk of the Sun. Part of the Earth will remain behind to house the Men-in-Black, which live in caverns on Earth. When Planet X makes future passages, the Annunaki will assume that the Sun has died, and the surface of the Earth with it.
EOZT

end quoted
from:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum ... 892736/pg4

MT, you asked a critical question:



My own beloved yoga Master was once asked that same question. He replied, (and I am paraphrasing):

“It is not necessary for you to know what divine love (i.e. truth) is when you begin your search. All you need to do is keep eliminating that which you know is not love/truth. And at the end, whatever remains, will be the actual truth….”

That’s been a useful guideline for me for the past 30+ years. Listen to your own heart. It will lead you forward. Drop what you know is false. Keep searching for truth. It Will Find You.

All my best wishes,

Selene

Uncle John here: This is a most interesting response. One I have not heard before. I will ponder on this. Thanks so much Selene.

One thing I will not ponder on any more is pole shifts or ELE's. I've eliminated these thoughts in my mind as not representing love/truth.

MT, you asked:

“Do you think that it also has to be a quantity or percent of the planet that have #1. There are some Human that are Honest truthful and spiritual beings.”


....
MT, I think it is “both”: that is, we are each as individuals responsible for our own decisions, our own lives, our own scorecards/karma. How we choose to respond to the circumstances of our lives is entirely personal and what amounts to our Free Will choice.

As to the other question: Is there a magic number, a critical percentage that will tip the balance for humanity? If there is an answer to that question, I do not know it. All I know is that the issues of justice and mercy have been forever at the hands of the Most High. I only work here.


“On #2 I think we have been spared many, many times and we are not Awake and Aware enough to realize...."



Absolutely. We must be truly grateful for each moment and day we are given.

Best mantra: Appreciate. Appreciate. Appreciate....

Cheers,
Selene

I believe that we control our destiny and that with two mandates we have the best chance.

1. Have Faith and be at peace, this will bring us in tune with Higher Power, which will lead/mentor us though this mess.
This will give us the courage to speak the truth and do the honorable actions that are needed.

2. Be prepared, by living simply, and in harmony with the planet. Getting close to nature.

Can you elaborate on what steps you have been doing to prepare (7 years)

P.S. Here a link to the doom and gloom "kill shot".
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6578438521104676713#
I would not recommend watching it if you are still in fear base mode.
This life is just one step in a vast journey of the cosmos.

MT7

The main reason I stay here is that those on the GT, get it that Fear mongering is an addiction and attracts more of the same.

Peace be with you

MT7

UJ,

This is indeed an extremely complex and subtle point: That the light of truth is obscured by our own dust, fog and distortion of untruth: ignorance, fear, lies, misunderstandings, falsehoods, half-truths and partially-understood truths.

But we do, somehow, know that ultimate truth exists. Else we would never search for it; its reality gnaws at us, somehow.

At the core, we all have an inborn golden core of truth, a knowing, a compass of reality, of divine knowledge. That is our true heart, and soul. And that knowledge is, ultimately: that love is the highest truth. Removing all else allows our true selves to shine forth.

And that love = God, the divine, the highest.

That’s all. But that’s everything.

Kindest regards,

Selene

Uncle John here: This is so important Selene. My favorite time for this mantra is in the shower in the morning.

It seems highly likely to me that this world as we know it will not survive if things do not change. I don't feel that it is in human hands to make this change. I do feel that things will be changed within my lifetime. If not, we all will still live forever. What is the most important thing to learn and practice in either case? To "Appreciate. Appreciate. Appreciate...."

But a curiosity of my type remains after all the most agreeable of all vices
Sorry, I meant to say: the love of truth has it reward in heaven and even on earth.
-Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good And Evil-

1. Our own score card ? I wonder if that is true, to use only STO and Love as the basis.
These are some score card I could use:
http://www.thirdtemple.com/NoahsLaws.html
http://www.auburn.edu/~allenkc/noahide.html
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_the_buddha_laws
http://www.swordsoftheeast.com/bushidothewayofthesamurai.aspx
http://www.gotquestions.org/abolish-fulfill-law.html

2. me too

3. Thank you Higher Power Creator of the Universe

And thank you Selene

MT7

I prefer this translation
"But a curiosity like mine is once for all the most agreeable of vices--pardon me! I mean to say that the love of truth has its reward in heaven, and already upon earth"
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Beyond_Good_and_Evil/Chapter_III

Perhaps your Love of Curiosity will lead you to the Truth of why Love is the single source of goodness.

MT7