Welcome Mikulus,

I like to rearrange letters too!

start the string at 0,
m i k u l u s
0123456
then take [3,2]+[5,6]+[0,1] +[4] of you name

UK + US + Mil

hummm.... a Military Joint operations

Nah....just kidding, sometimes a cigar is just cigar.

PS. sorry been a long day, another anagram of Obama would be om baa (meditating sheep?)

MT7

from the Bloomberg story:



Now we have "caves on Mars", do we? "Evidence of microbial life ?" Uhm. Microbial is really, really tiny, guys. Requires a microscope to see. These are photos from TELEscopes. Big Guys. See only BIG images. Not microbial at all. Unless, of course, this is the Microbe That Ate Los Angeles.... " ;-} Lava tubes? "Tubes [that] could be sealed and pressured to create a habitat for long term use", huh? By whom? How tall would these creators be? "The pretty distant future" huh?



Hah! "Not surprising???!!" WTF? Wherein do these worm formations exist "naturally" on earth? Just show me a single example here, please. "Certainly had to be there"? Real-l-l-l-y? According to whom? Like, as if, these are "so ordinary", hmmm?

Spin.Spin. Nothing to see here, -le, move along, keep going, nothing here....

I can't believe they have the chutzpa to try this POS P.R. stunt. But, again....

Cheers,

Selene

I don't like guessing games, why don't you just enlighten us?

UFO CHECKING MOON CRATER BEFORE NASA BOMBING

Youtube Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJXyjIIG ... r_embedded


Screen Captures:

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Dear MT et al,

Interestingly, these dates parallel those of Cliff High only he gave them out a lot earlier. I believe that the dates correspond to payments that are supposed to have been made a while back.

Since Dr. Peter Beter said that Rockefeller always wanted Russia to annihilate the US so that he could take over its charred remains and start over, I have to conclude that China is the new country of mass destruction.

IF THIS IS THE SOUL HARVEST, I DON'T THINK THAT I WANT TO BE HERE. I PREFERRED THAT MY SOUL BE DELIVERED SANS BAR-B-QUEING.

MK


PS: DID I MENTION THAT I LOVE THE EMOTICONS?

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I just watched John Moore's video and it seems well-researched. He quotes a lot of people who were in naval intelligence. He says that there is not a set date by which things will happen, they will occur when the oceanic and other conditions reach a specific point...however, it appears that this is probably some time in 2010.

He references a Dr. Velikowsky pretty frequently. I plan to do a little more research on Dr. V and John Moore. His suggestions are pretty reasonable.

MK

Shady wrote - "So there you have it True Polar Wander does happen. Yet the last time it happened on the Earth was over 550 Million years ago and no Planet X was involved plus it didn't happen in weeks. But took 15 million years. "

Thanks for those links, Shady. Very interesting.

I for one am sceptical of many claims circulating on the internet, quite often just someone repeating badly-researched material.
One being circulated still as 'evidence of a cover-up' on Planet X is the supposed 'mysterious' death of astronomer Robert Harrington. He actually died in 1993 of throat cancer (how mysterious is that?!).

His Planet X material was not 'secret internal NASA documents' but publicly available papers (see one extract here)
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-b ... 7b97d27269

The Nancy Leider/Zitchin Planet X (home of the alleged Annanuki) is not the astonomical body Harrington was researching as I understand (obvious by reading his work and comparing his calculations to those cited by the Leider/Zeta followers) but the term Planet X seems to be used as a generic cover-all now for any reference to a hypothetical disaster planet or unknown astronomical body in our vicinity, and many writers now just quote the tired, oft repeated mantras without researching properly to get back to the original source to cross-check it's credibility, just repeating 4th hand quotes from already questionable material (chinese whispers).

Sloppy research, but hey, let's not let FACTS get in the way here.

Likewise Zitchin's work is questionable on much detail and crucial translation. Peer scholars who have looked at his claims point out mis-translations or parts of the scripts that could be open to an alternative translation and interpretation, so his work is not set-in stone undeniable fact, as his followers claim. He often didn't quote his sources, so current examiners and readers have to take what he said at face value, unable to prove one way or another now if he was correct. It's been pointed out what he interpreted literally as a visitation and influence of another alien race on board a planet that visits us once in a while, are actual Sumerian myths and nothing more than creation stories, such as all pre-modern cultures form to explain their origins.

But again, let's not worry about FACTS here, eh?

Also recently repeated here and on other forums, that Alistair Crowley was a child murderer. As Crowley still has living relatives this could be good case for libel case - again, no evidence. His use of terms were symbolic, not literal (ie child sacrifice his analogy for masturbation to 'sacrifice' semen in a ritual). Reading a good autobiography such as Milo D 'Quettes makes that clear.

And mmmm, let's ask the Mayans if their calendar ends in 2012 (see recent posts on that subject!) - they'll tell you it's not so.

While there usually is no smoke without fire, or at least some grain of a possible one that has set minds questioning, there is such a thing as taking it all on without questioning the source. That's not finding the truth in my mind, just self-defeating. And in challenging what you hear, hey, you may just be proven wrong! Or right! In which case no harm done and you are vindicated and have a cast iron argument, or at least a better idea of the truth to add to the mix when the subject comes up again in discussion

Back to my Obama word game:

We have ABMAO after scrambling up the name. Then we divided up the AB from MAO.
AB
MAO

Mao = communism
AB + communism, Google search

You get A.B. Razlatzki, author of "The Second Communist Manifesto"!!

The second manifesto details the shortcomings of the first to fully infiltrate democratic society. It goes into some detail how to further communism by adopting different yet less assuming approaches. Basically the same method Van Jones admits to within his spoken interviews. Something that the media ignored. According to them, he resigned because he called Republicans a cuss word. However, Van Jones adopted the environmental movement to further his ideal of the unfullfilled Communistic agenda. This is not speculation but actual recorded statements which he admitted with pride. Using environmentalism is one of the many avenues which the Second Manifesto implies could be undertaken. It doesn't specifically state ones to "adopt" but the guideline is there. Bottom line, communism is not dead like the former Soviet Union. It is still present and carried forth by followers in various forms. China's communism has merged into it principles of capitalism. However, its capitalism is without individual freedom. It's still tyranny.

So, to recap:

We know that Barack's parents were communists when they met in a Russian language course.
Whether Barack's mother passed those ideals to her son is speculation.
One might say she did based off Barack's mentors and his appointed Czars.


All of this combined makes the word play on Obama fun, however Obama is the surname. Therefore, what I created has zero basis for potential. Yet, with further passage of time, society will only refer to President Barack Obama as Obama. Therefore Obama will become the standard reference. A one word name similar to Madonna, Cher, and Jesus.

p.s. I think Shady Grove would appreciate my Masonic references within the Savior part of the cross (pyramid and neoclassical pillar). Now that's conspiracy! I was about to make the O into the globe with the North American continent showing but that would have been too much.

That's just it for me when it comes to the whole Zitchin Planet X thing..

Being an anthropology buff and degree in it. I actually got to wittness a lingistical round table and panel of scholars where were attempting to translate Greek documents dating to 60BC. Even with ancient Greek (which we know a heck of alot about) mis interpretation of the translated text does in fact happen even among the experts in it.

We don't know how the ancients actually spoke their languages or in some cases know exactly what they meant by certain terms..

Example..

Take this simple phrase we might use today.

"That concert was so cool!"

Now we of today know what it means.. The concert was fantastic.

Yet what will a linguist of 6000 AD make of that phrase of 2009?

That concert was cold it was physically cold at the concert.

Without comparative texts in which that phrase and word are used Linguists of 6000 AD will have a hell of a time discovering its true meaning.


That's the problem with Ancient Sumerian not of enough text remains of it for us to get a complete and total picture of what they actually meant.

Secondly the whole Planet X, Annanki thing is apart of the Ancient Sumerian Religious and Spiritual Beliefs.. Its NOT history its not science.. It was apart of their Religious Myth and Legend Saga.

It would be like historians of 6000 AD having nothing of our present day culture but only the Bible (which was found everywhere in their (our culture of 2009 AD) and using that to describe our over all culture. What will historians of 6000 AD say of our culture when the archeologists come across a buried intact church and find pews all facing a fifteen foot marble statue of a crucified man?? That the ancients apparently worshiped!

Well somewhat the same thing is going on with the Stichin Planet X/Annaki thing.. Stichin interprets it as being Sumerian history and science! When we just don't have enough evidence to make that claim.. The only other Sumerian writing we have left to work with is ... a shyt load of business and trade documents/tablets Ancient Summer was the trading capital empire of its its time. And a few gemological and mythic histories of their Queens and Kings.. and that's all! The rest sad to say eroded into dust and is lost to us forever.


Just some thoughts..


Shady

Thought for the day:

Back in 1987 when I took my first anthropology course 'Archeology and Cultural Anthropology 101' Dr. Neal Tribuwitz brillent Orthodox Jew and Hippie like professor came into the room wearing sandles, a T-Shirt beard and hat with walking staff. Tribuwitz had don ground breaking research with the ancient Native American Clovis culture and artifacts in American Southwest.

Neal did not start a lecture he sat down on the edge of the lab table. And simply said this.

"What will archeologists of 5000 years from now discover of you! :he pointed to at each of us one by one: What will the ravages of time do to your physical bodies and homes by that time? Well if they are lucky they will find some bone fragments from you Namely the thicker bones of your fingers toes and femer and tibula. Maybe parts of your skull. Then of course anything of metal such as dental implants, eye glass frames, surgical implant (he patthed his hip), your belt buckle and maybe the button on your blue jeans and zipper."

"I want a 15 page report on your life story in three weeks. Using ONLY the artifacts a Archeologist would find on you and in your enviornment 5000 years from now. Discribe your entire life by way of these handfuls of artifiacts."

That ladies and gentlemen what we have to work with when it comes to trying to understand ancient cultures such as Sumerians...


Shady

The Day After Tommorrow??? Anyone???

What I find incredibly frustrating is that if you offer a challenge to the accepted conspiracy line (even on this forum on occasssion ) you are often accused of being 'sucked into the conspiracy'. Sucked into whose conspiracy? Going back to the source and giving it a good, hard look is not the mindset of someone 'sucked in' - just someone being balanced in their examination.

Yes, there are conspiracies and hidden government agendas (I think anyone drawn to and contributing to this forum is only too well aware of that). But let's keep it real and not make a mountain out of a molehill.

It does no one any favours and certainly not 'the truth.'

Just Wondering regarding this:
-You may say how some Translations ie:
Sumerian Tablets
http://theearthcouncilofenlil.weebly.co ... sions.html
and

The Thora
http://www.torah.org/

Sumerian Tablet
In now knowing procreation Adamu and Tiamat cover themselves with loin cloths. No longer naked, Enlil walking in the Edin sees this and exiles them out of the Edin to the Abzu with Enki. Enki's plan to bring forth Civilized Man to Farm and Shepard. 2nd Generation Earth Humans. Enki Fathered ADAPA and TiTi from two beautiful girls.

Torah
Adam and Eve give birth to Cain and Abel. Cain Farms and Abel, a shepard. They both give an offering. Cain from his fruits of being cultivator, and Abel firstlings of his flock of sheep. God looking with favor upon abel and his offering. Cain angered, later kills Abel with a stone. God Angered, banished Cain to the land of wandering with a wife. God puts a Mark upon Cain so that anyone who finds him will not kill him.

The Flood:

Sumerian
Story of the Flood of Ziusudra (Noah)
Galzu the Anunnaki emissary appears in a dream to Enki with a tablet of a blue print of the Ark for Ziusudra to build and save himself, his wife, three sons Shem, Ham, Yafet, their families, and all the animals and dna. Enki awakens to find the tablet has manifested and is with him. Not breaking an oath not to tell anyone of the coming deluge by Nibiru's coming and gravitational pull causing this event, Enki speaks to Ziusudra through a reed hut leaving the tablet to find.


Torah
The Deluge Flood of Noah
God opens the flood gates of heaven and it rains for 40 days and 40 nights. After the flood the Ark rests on the mountain of Ararat. Noah exits the Ark and gives an offering lamb on a fire in praise

Sumerian
The Deluge Flood of Ziusudra ( Noah )
The Anunnaki home planet Nibiru, 10th in the Solar System enters the inner Solar System every 3600 years near the astroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. On its long eliptical orbit it leaves to the far outer Solar System. Depending on where the Planets are the very large redish planet Nibiru can cause gravitational disturbance to the other Planets. The Anunnaki on Earth with instruments detected a crossing of Nibiru with the Earth orbiting too close feeling the force of Nibiru's great gravitational pull shaking the Antartic ice sheet loose.

Nibiru's gravitational pull caused the Antarctic ice sheet to slide into the sea causing a Super Tidal Wave to sweep over the Earth. Then the ice Crystals over the stratosphere that blocked cosmic rays at that time melted and it rained for 40 days and 40 nights.

The Anunnaki, Enki, Enlil, Ninmah, and thier families, taking off circling the Earth on thier Celestial Chariot sky ships to outwait the flood. Marduke, Sarpanit, 2 sons, and The igigi Anunnaki and Thier families, on Lahmu (Mars) outwait the deluge. Nannar request to outwait the Deluge on Kingu (the Moon).

Ninagal ( Enki's son ) selected by Enki to join Ziusudra to navagate the Ark to the mountains of Arata(Ararat), bringing with him the life essences DNA and life eggs of the animals collected by Enki and Ninmah in a box of Cedar wood.

After The Flood Deluge

The Tower of Babel story
The people got together and said; let us make bricks baked by fire so that they serve as stone. Use bitumen(tar) for motar. Let us build in the city a Tower that its top reach the heavens. And God came down to see the city and the Tower.
And God said; Look they are as one people, and they have one language and this is what they do. Now nothing they will do that will be impossible for them. Come let us go down and there confuse thier language that thet may not understand one anothers language. And God scattered them all over the face of the Earth and they stopped building the city.


The Tower to Heaven
Marduke takes land, shows his followers brick making. and to use fire so that they may serve as stone. and Builds a tower.
Marduke is building An unpermited gateway to heaven. (a stargate) If this we allow to happen, no other matter of Mankind shall be unreached. This evil plan must be stopped! Ninurta said; all with that agreed. It was nighttime when the Enlilite Anunnaki came, From thier skyships with fire and brimstone the tower they rained and destroyed. The followers they spread across the land. Enlil in each region and every land the people a different tounge he made to speak. a different form of writing he made that the other would not understand.


The Story of Moses
Moses chosen by God to recieve his covenant, the Tablets of The Ten Commandments, The Tablets of the word of God. He goes to the Mountain of God and is there 40 days and 40 nights. The Tablets are put in a Golden Box, The Golden Ark of The Covenant.

Endubsar ( like Moses )- Master Scribe chosen by Enki to scribe the words of Enki, and for 40 days and 40 nights scribed Enki's words of the history of The Anunnaki from the Story of the Solar System, The history of The Anunnaki on thier home Planet Nibiru. The destiny of The Anunnaki to Earth, and The Anunnaki history here on Earth. Scribed on sky blue Lapis Lazuli Stone Tablets placed in a Acacia wood chest inlaid with Gold outside (Like the Ark of the Covernant). Not one word missed not one word added. - The Tablets of - The Lost Book Of Enki

There are a lot of things about John Moore's story that bother me.
Now this is the way it is---- Unless you have a need to know NO ONE will tell you anything about anything peroid! And no one blinks! So that part of his story sounds bogus to me.

He says that many Navy guys are going to the Ozarks because of the hight. And then shows a map of Wisconsin and Mich ect. totaly flooded. Do you know that the hights of some places in Wisconsin are over 3000 feet? And the Northern half is 1800 feet above sea level while most of the Southern half is 1200 feet ASL. So a riseing ociean wont get high enough to flood Wisconsin.

As far as spliting open goes, Wisc. is on solid rock in the middle of a plate. That makes a large crack unlikely.

But there is no doubt that some big event will take place on this planet. And we do know that the earth did tilt on it's axes several times in the recent past. Making a pattern fore times to come. Below is a list of some of the high places in Wis.

Six counties (in order of height: Price, Forest, Lincoln, Marathon, Vilas, and Langlade) in the north-central part of Wisconsin have elevations exceeding 1900 feet above sea level. Other major high elevation points of Wisconsin include Mt. Whittlesey (1872 feet) and Meteor Hill (1801 feet) in northwest Wisconsin. In southeastern Wisconsin Powder Hill, Holy Hill, and an unnamed hill located 0.5 km north of Holy Hill, all have summit elevations between 1330 and 1340 feet.


Adams 1290 Friendship Mound Adams 18N-6E 32 SW
Ashland 1872 Mount Whittlesey Mount Whittlesey 44N- 2W 9 SE
Barron 1630 Blue Hills Strickland 35N-10W 25 W
Bayfield 1700 Mount Telemark Cable 43N- 7W 28 NW
Brown 1020 Morrison Hill Greenleaf 21N-20E 24 NW
Buffalo 1360 Montana Ridge Lookout 22N-10W 2,3,11
Burnett 1470 Timberland 37N-14W 33,34
Calumet 1130 North Tower Hill Brothertown 44* 02'N lat. 88x17'
W long
Chippewa 1530 Flambeau Ridge Flambeau Ridge 32N- 7W 3 SE
Clark 1480 Abbotsford 29N- 1E 24 NE
Columbia 1480 Baraboo Range Durwoods Glen 11N- 8E 6 SE
Crawford 1322 Rising Sun Ridge Rising Sun 11N- 5W 22 NW
Dane 1489 East Blue Mound Blue Mounds 6N- 6E 5,6
Dodge 1230 Nenno 11N-17E 20 SE
Door 860 Namur 26N-24E 31 SW
Douglas 1369 Summit Hill Empire Swamp 45N-14W 21
Dunn 1354 Dunnewa Hill Colfax North 30N-11W 24 NE
Eau Claire 1340 Price 25N- 5W 32 SW
Florence 1730 Long Lake NE 41N-16E 30 SE
Fond du Lac 1270 Kettle Moraine Eden 14N-18E 2 SE
Forest 1939 Sugar Bush Hill Lake Lucerne 36N-13E 36 SW
Grant 1240 Military Ridge Long Hollow 7N- 2W 31
Green 1173 New Glarus 4N- 6E 12
Green Lake 1090 Green Lake 15N-13E 20 NE
Iowa 1719 West Blue Mound Blue Mounds 6N- 5E 1 NW
Iron 1860 Penokee Range Mt. Whittlesey 44N- 1W 6 NE
Jackson 1409 Saddle Mound Hatfield SE 22N- 1W 33 NE
Jefferson 1062 Kettle Moraine Little Prairie 5N-16E 26 NE
Juneau 1380 Johnson Hill New Lisbon S. 15N- 2E 11 NW
Kenosha 994 Silver Lake 1N-19E 34
Kewaunee 1020 Cherneyville Hill Strangelville 23N-23E 32 NE
La Crosse 1400
1400 Wadels Hill
Rosedale 18N- 5W 24 NE
14 SE
Lafayette 1440 N. Platte Mound Rewey 4N- 1E 31 SE
Langlade 1903 Kent Tower Hill Polar 32N-13E 21 NW
Lincoln 1920 Lookout Mountain Parrish 34N-8E 27 SW
Manitowoc 1047 School Hill 17N-21E 27 NE
Marathon 1924 Rib Mountain Wausau Wast 28N- 7E 8 SE
Marinette 1660 Armstrong Cr. 37N-17E 17-18
Marquette 1320 Westfield West 17N- 8E 7 S
Menominee 1433 Zoar 30N-13E 6 NW
Milwaukee 868 Hales Corners 6N-21E 30
Monroe 1450
1447 Greenfield Hill
Breddeler Hill Alderwood Lake
Tomah 18N- 2W
16N- 2W 9 SW
2 NW
Oconto 1781 Carter Hills Reservoir Pond 33N-15E 6 NW
Oneida 1800 Parrish 35N- 9E 32,33
Outagamie 1010 Greenville 22N-16E 28,33
Ozaukee 980
980
980
980
980 Five Corners
Newburg
Port Washington W
Port Washington W
Random Lake 10N-21E
11N-21E
11N-21E
11N-21E
12N-21E 29 SE
16 NW
7 SE
30 NW
3 SW
Pepin 1300 Rohrscheib Hill Rock Falls 25N-11W 22 SW
Pierce 1280 Spring Valley 27N-15W 1 NE
Polk 1410 Frederic Tower Hill Fredrick 36N-17W 1 NW
Portage 1320 Blaine 21N- 9E 11 NE
Price 1952 Timms Hill Timms Hill 34N-2E 11 N
Racine 952 Buena Park Hill Waterford 4N- 19E 22 NE
Richland 1300 Pleasant Ridge West Lima 12N- 1W 19 NE
Rock 1080 Orfordville 3N-10E 17 N
Rusk 1750 Blue Hills Weyerhauser 35N- 9W 27
St. Croix 1320 Wilson 29N-15W 23 SW
Sauk 1593 Sauk Point Baraboo 11N- 7E 15 SW
Sawyer 1801 Meteor Hill Edgewater 37N-8W 17 SW
Shawano 1490 Aniwa 29N-11E 6 NW
Sheboygan 1312 Parnell Hill Cascade 14N-20E 10 NE
Taylor 1840 Rib Lake 33N-2E 10 SW
Trempealeau 1360 Elk Creek 23N-9W 8 SE
Vernon 1360
1360 Irish Ridge
Dell
Dell 14N- 3W
14N- 3W 2-4
11-12
Vilas 1901
1905 Phelps
Phelps 41N-12E
42N-12E 30 W
29 W
Walworth 1158 Walworth 1N-16E 36 SW
Washburn 1480 Stone Lake 38N-10W 23-24
Washington 1330
1330
1332 Powder Hill
Holy Hill
Hartford East
Merton
Merton 10N-18E
9N-18E
9N-18E 24 SW
14 NE
14 NE
Waukesha 1230 Lapham Peak Oconomoc East 7N-18E 29 SE
Waupaca 1220 Iola 24N-11E 30 NW
Waushara 1304 Wautoma NE 20N-10E 19,20
Winnebago 996 Berlin 17N-14E 31 NW
Wood 1481 Powers Bluff Arpin 24N- 4E 30 SE

THe Sumerian Creation Myth is just one myth of one culture that has existed on this planet since mankind came together and formed civilization...

Each culture each society has their own..


Apache Native American:

Myth 1

In the beginning was only Tepeu and Gucumatz (Feathered Serpent). These two sat together and thought, and whatever they thought came into being. They thought Earth, and there it was. They thought mountains, and so there were. They thought trees, and sky, and animals etc, and each came into being. But none of these things could praise them, so they formed more advanced beings of clay. But these beings fell apart when they got wet, so they made beings out of wood, but they proved unsatisfactory and caused trouble on the earth. The gods sent a great flood to wipe out these beings, so that they could start over. With the help of Mountain Lion, Coyote, Parrot, and Crow they fashioned four new beings. These four beings performed well and are the ancestors of the Quiché In the beginning was only Tepeu and Gucumatz (Feathered Serpent).

These two sat together and thought, and whatever they thought came into being. They thought earth, and there it was. They thought mountains, and so there were. They thought trees, and sky, and animals etc, and each came into being. But none of these things could praise them, so they formed more advanced beings of clay. But these beings fell apart when they got wet, so they made beings out of wood, but they proved unsatisfactory and caused trouble on the earth. The gods sent a great flood to wipe out these beings, so that they could start over. With the help of Mountain Lion, Coyote, Parrot, and Crow they fashioned four new beings. These four beings performed well and are the ancestors of the Quich.

In the beginning there was only darkness. Suddenly a small bearded man, the One Who Lives Above, appeared rubbing his eyes as if just awakened. The man, the Creator, rubbed his hands together and there appeared a little girl, Girl-Without-Parents. The creator rubbed his face with his hands and there stood the Sun-God. Again Creator rubbed his sweaty brow and from his hands dropped Small-boy. Now there were four gods.Then he created Tarantula, Big Dipper, Wind, Lightning-Maker and Lightning-Rumbler. All four gods shook hands so that their sweat mixed together. Then Creator rubbed his palms together from which fell a small round, brown ball. They took turns kicking it and with each kick the ball grew larger. Creator told Wind to go inside the ball and blow it up. Then Tarantula spun a black cord which he attached to the ball and went to the east pulling as hard as he could.

He repeated this exercise with a blue cord to the south, a yellow cord to the west and a white cord to the north. When he was done the brown ball had become the earth. The Creator again rubbed his hands and there appeared Hummingbird. "Fly all over this earth," said Creator to Hummingbird, "and tell us what you see." When he returned Hummingbird reported that there was water on the west side. But the earth rolled and bounced, so Creator made four giant posts one each black, blue, yellow and white and had Wind place them at the four cardinal points of the earth. The earth was now still. The creation of the people, animals, birds, trees, etc takes place hereafter.

Myth 2

In the beginning nothing existed, only darkness was everywhere. Suddenly from the darkness emerged a thin disc, one side yellow and the other side white, appearing suspended in midair. Within the disc sat a small bearded man, Creator, the One Who Lives Above. When he looked into the endless darkness, light appeared above. He looked down and it became a sea of light. To the east, he created yellow streaks of dawn. To the west, tints of many colors appeared everywhere. There were also clouds of different colours. He also created three other gods: a little girl, a Sun-God and a small boy.

Then he created celestial phenomena, the winds, the tarantula, and the earth from the sweat of the four gods mixed together in the Creator's palms, from a small round, brown ball, not much larger than a bean. The world was expanded to its current size by the gods kicking the small brown ball until it expanded. Creator told Wind to go inside the ball and to blow it up.

The tarantula, the trickster character, spun a black cord and, attaching it to the ball, crawled away fast to the east, pulling on the cord with all his strength. Tarantula repeated with a blue cord to the south, a yellow cord to the west, and a white cord to the north. With mighty pulls in each direction, the brown ball stretched to immeasurable size--it became the earth! No hills, mountains, or rivers were visible; only smooth, treeless, brown plains appeared. Then the Creator created the rest of the beings and features of the Earth.



Are they recording actual history... Or man kind trying to comprehend the incomprehensable.. The origin of Universe and the Earth at which no human being was ever present to wittness?


Shady

Very well said. Knowledge is priceless.

"p.s. I think Shady Grove would appreciate my Masonic references within the Savior part of the cross (pyramid and neoclassical pillar). Now that's conspiracy! I was about to make the O into the globe with the North American continent showing but that would have been too much."

I know uncle john says only love can fill but dude - you need help.

ebb,

Official disclosure of extraterrestrial life is imminent
October 21, 12:27 AMHonolulu Exopolitics Examiner

An official announcement by the Obama administration disclosing the reality of extraterrestrial life is imminent. For several months, senior administration officials have been quietly deliberating behind closed doors how much to disclose to the world about extraterrestrial life. Dissatisfaction among powerful institutions such as the U.S. Navy over the decades-long secrecy policy has given a boost to efforts to disclose the reality of extraterrestrial life and technology.

The impending disclosure announcement follows upon the secret implementation of a year long openness policy on UFOs and extraterrestrial life. Over the period February 12-14, 2008, the United Nations held closed doors discussions where approximately 30 nations secretly agreed on a new openness policy on UFOs and extraterrestrial life in 2009. The openness policy was implemented but never publicly announced due to threats against UN diplomats not to disclose details of the secret agreement. h The secret UN agreement was based on two conditions. First, UFOs would continue to appear around the world; and second, the openness policy would not lead to social unrest in liberal democracies. Both conditions have been satisfied making it possible for the next stage to begin – official disclosure of extraterrestrial life.

Obama’s September 24, 2009 chairing of the UN Security Council meeting on nuclear non-proliferation and disarmament, signaled his emerging leadership role in tackling major global issues such as nuclear weapons. The Nobel Peace Prize was an important step in giving global legitimacy to President Obama in making an extraterrestrial disclosure announcement. Obama is therefore poised to play a prominent role in the increased global governance that will be necessary after an extraterrestrial disclosure announcement. The timing would most likely coincide sometime soon after his Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech on December 10, 2009 in Oslo, Norway.

There have been various sources that have revealed deliberations are underway to make an announcement concerning the existence of extraterrestrial life by the end of 2009. These include, Dr Pete Peterson, a whistleblower who has recently emerged revealing high level discussions have taken place concerning announcing the existence of extraterrestrial life. In a Project Camelot interview, Dr Peterson revealed that “Obama is planning to disclose the reality of ET contact by the end of the year; and that most, but not all, of the ET visitors are friendly.”

Another source is David Wilcock, a prominent researcher of emerging scientific paradigms. Wilcock has been told by additional independent sources that extraterrestrial disclosure will take place by the end of 2009. He furthermore claimed in a Coast to Coast AM radio interview that “a 2-hour international TV special has already been booked that will introduce an alien species, similar to humans, to the world.”

In addition, popular NASA and space researcher, Richard Hoagland, has publicly come forward to reveal that the October 9, LCROSS ‘bombing’ mission of the moon, discovered an ancient base at the moon’s South Pole. Reviewing the scientific data achieved by NASA’s LCROSS mission, Hoagland concluded, also on the popular late night Coast to Coast AM radio show, that “LCROSS is part of a carefully constructed campaign to prepare the populace for imminent disclosure. The President of the United States will soon announce that scientists have discovered ruins on the moon, he added. Nobody saw the LCROSS debris plume because the probes struck a building which swallowed the effects of the explosion.”

Finally, two independent and confidential sources have revealed to me that face to face meetings have recently occurred between U.S. military officials with one or more groups of extraterrestrial visitors. This has allegedly led to confidence being built for future cooperation with the extraterrestrials that will be formally announced to the world public either at the end of 2009, or early 2010.

In conclusion, a diverse number of sources and events point to some form of extraterrestrial disclosure being made by the end of 2009, or early 2010. Official disclosure will most likely emerge in either of two scenarios. One is that President Obama will announce the existence of extraterrestrial visitors, and describe one or more of these to the world. This scenario is supported by Peterson, Wilcock, and my own confidential sources. The second scenario is that an announcement will be made concerning the discovery of artificial structures at the moon’s South Pole, as revealed by the LCROSS mission. This scenario is supported by Hoagland.

Which ever of the above scenarios is used for announcing the existence of extraterrestrial life or technology, President Obama will figure prominently. Behind the scenes, powerful institutions are ensuring that nothing derails the planned disclosure announcement. The disclosure will follow upon a year of greater government openness on UFOs in accord with a policy secretly developed at the United Nations. If extraterrestrial disclosure does occur at the end of 2009 or early 2010, President Obama will lead an unprecedented effort to promote global governance through the United Nations. The Obama administration and its supporters are poised to take a bold step forward in helping our planet become an interplanetary culture that openly deals with the challenges posed by extraterrestrial life.

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The report will probably state that the "life" is microscopic in nature. Yes, there is life on other planets. It's only a couple of cells big. Also, the report of life on Mars will be found in the caves. The ones that "weren't there" a few years ago. The same caves that Kent Steadman (rest his soul) was touting on cyberspaceorbit (think that's it) for years.

I'm sure the reports are not going to bring out the dead aliens out of Area 51 or spaceships. But it would be a start to bring a shift in the paradigm for most people's thinking about life off this planet...

Leo

Oh as a researcher both cultural anthropologist and esoterica. I’m then willing to sit down with ANY Body willing to talk about their ‘Secret Society’ and its origins. As long as they actually know the truth to their origins and know where their myths about themselves actually originate!

In fact in my research I’ve sat down over dinner and wine with the True Luciferian Illuminati members. An I’m not talking about LeVay Temple of Set wanna be’s. I’m talking about members of sixth generation Luciferians that were branded above their left breast with a symbol of their faith as part of their dark baptism when they were but infants. Some are entirely willing to talk facts instead of myth and legends.

When it comes to Freemasons though here is the truth… The Freemasons and brothers the Rosy Cross talk a good talk of being ancient fraternal associations dating back to Egypt and in some cases all the way back to Atlantis!

But that’s all Myth, self promoting Myth! Their true origins date back only to 14th and 15th Century AD. After the Vatican had exterminated their nemsis the gnostics and later Templars namely the Holy Order of the Brothers of the Temple (The Templar’s.) Other orders such as Teutonic Knights (Holy Brothers of the Sword) and alike coupled with the “Neo-Greek Classical Mysteries Romantism Revival” at the time. CREATED Mystery Esoteric Schools and Philosophies.. These Societies were APPROVED by Vatican and given their blessing. That is why the Freemasons and Vatican are still in bed with each other to this day! These Societies then CREATED “Mystery” Myths about their origins dating back ancient Egypt. Also plagiarized and outright stold other parts of their origins from the exterminated Templar Guilds that built the early Cathedrals of Europe. They even began to claim that they were decedents of the Templars themselves!

Which is very hard to believe since “The Church” literally had orders up to 1800s century to drag any Templar that surfaced before the Inquisition! Tell me how could Freemasons openly claim Templar decent in Europe when the Very Church/State had a death warrant on any surviving Templar! The ONLY way the Freemasons could claim such and get away with it was that Freemasons had the consent of the Roman Catholic Church and later Protestant Church to exist.

As historians on Freemason and Rosecrians respected Researchers such Umberto Echo point out CORRECTLY Freemasonry was a Church/Vatican approved version of The Templar’s. A version that Church controlled from their creation as a Templar wanna be front group in 14th century. A pale imitation of the very group THEY originally exterminated..

This is the truth of Freemasonry today. With their Queer bastardized and purely fictionalized created Rituals, Mythology and Queer wanna be esoterica! An for anyone to take them seriously… well that person needs to get their head examined.

As for the real Secret Societies including the Templars they do exist are STILL out there. . But they wouldn’t be caught dead in Italian suits, Public Temples In downtown Washington DC, They don’t need Wealth or Power. Because this Material Physical Existence NO LONGER CONCERNS THEM or constitute a blip on their radar screen

I’ve been actually shown films of their TRUE Grand Masters Their HIGHEST Ruling Courts They appear something akin to this…



And met one in transition face to face…


Instead of these clown….





Like I said in a earlier post…. If there is any true Illuminati or Secret Society member out there, no matter which faction or which school of thought… that actually wants to talk and is truly knowledgeable… Then lets talk shop shall we??

I'll buy lunch..

You know were to find me..



Shady

Templar descedent..



PS... Note the language change..

David Lynch, DUNE,1984, Der Gilde Navigator

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g66iEr2HrvM

Mikulus, welcome to the Golden Thread, but let me state as clearly as I can up front that "goading" or "taunting" is not a way to follow the Golden Rule. While all forms of political ideology are tolerated and celebrated when occasion might demand it, we try to avoid having overt political discussions when they can clearly show an agenda of divisiveness and hostility towards others' beliefs. Is there a specific reason why your first post was intended to make a connection between Obama and Mao? Usually one post provokes another, what provoked your anagram?
Your P.S. line also was an attempt to provoke as well. Like Lynnwood said, we're not interested in guessing games, why not just tell us what that was all about?

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Steph, although we disagree on quite a bit, I should point out that when you're commenting on things like the death of a particular individual (Harrington, in this case), "assassinations" aren't always intended to be as overt as, say, the JFK assassination. Cancer is, in fact, an oft-used method of eliminating an individual, usually because it looks "natural". Following the course of "logic", if one were intelligent and did a good job of it, one would not want to have a "suspicious" death; it should look as natural as possible. This is often over-looked when examining these issues, as if any act committed by black-ops would by definition somehow be clumsy and noticeable, or overt. Rarely is that the case, except when the assassinations are designed to send a clear signal of intimidation to any and all who would commit to a similar course of action. Just using my logical and deductive reasoning here.

Regarding the NL/ZT material; as I've often pointed out, other than the so-called "White Lie" (what I call the "Grey Lie") and related taunts, the primary claims have not been disproven, and though only to a minimal degree in many cases, many have actually been proven. (Note the phrase "minimal degree"; nothing so overt as to disturb that all-important concept of "Domestic Tranquility" or that required to maintain the "Element of Doubt". Personally I have issues with that, as I feel it's intellectually dishonest.) In the meantime, one would have to question just what folks like Jim Moore are describing when they detail their deductive findings. That's not the same as declaring those findings as being definitive 'truth', but they are interesting findings nonetheless that have a basis in factual data that can't easily be disputed. The relative value or importance of it may be in question, but the underlying form that starts to take shape when these many dots are connected shows a plausibility that needs a more substantive rejoinder.

Incidentally, I would never imply that you or anyone else has simply been "sucked into the conspiracy" simply because you question some widely-held conspiratorial precepts. My own belief is that much "conspiracy theory" was pre-manufactured, to muddy any attempt to truthfully 'disclose' by providing a belief system that appears to take many of these issues into account and provide a framework of understanding.....when in reality it's a framework of mis-understanding. Hence one of my mottos: Always look to the 'destiny of the message' when trying to determine whether information is more factual or less.

Another seasoned channeler announcing Disclosure before the end of 2009, also, Blossom Goodchild is ill, unable to channel all month.

Suspend disbelief and questions about the source for a couple minutes - and allow this to feel good!!



Interesting thing is Michael actually mentions David Wilcock!

Hello everyone.... I am Josh.. I've been following the Topic of Nibiru/Planet X/ Pole shift for aproximately 3 years Now.. And on my Journey i've met don from one of his vids on the pole shift. a 30 sec clip or so. Discussed some things on the topic he layed out and have learned many things from this man. I've visited websites as yowusa.com , zetatalk, godlikeprod, done research on many topics and have come to the conclusion that we are in some troubled times.. Through many Youtube and google and godlikeprod vid's on the many coverups, watching many documentaries . I'm sure most of you have heard of bob dean/ Jason martell/ zacharia sitchen , dr michael wolf, and dr harrington among others, but i havent come across a John moore untill a few day's ago while viewing a post from Trin on the 3rd and 4th densities. from their .... their was a link to a global warming video.. i thought what the hell , i'll watch it, and shut it off if i don't like it, well it just got mind boggling and so very fascinating the more i got into it, so i viewed about half of it and it had problems, i notified don and he was blown away himself, so don said he would like to take that video and post it to the GT right away for others, so i thank don for that. alright, that's my first post on the GT, Thanks for reading everyone, sincerely.... Josh....