Hey Simon, it is a bit hard to dismiss three ELEnin alignments and resulting earthquake events....

Just take a gander at "The Quickening" vid I posted on page one, if you want to see a really WTF put together of the puzzle pieces on what's going on at present.

ELEnin - Project Blue beam - 2011/2012 - False Alien invasion - NWO - PX

And the fact that that all come together with the unadulterated version of the Mayan and Hopi prophecies - was impressive...

Anyway - most have not watched it as it probably is too long.

edit: Sky, it's purely a coincidence we chose the exact same emoticons at the beginning of our comments.....
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Good one, Wyz. Much-needed comic relief. On the serious side though about that issue; I love it when all the johnny-come-late-lies get all concerned about the "deficit" when they were mum the whole time Rancher n' Angler were running up the red ink. Just shows how much they knew even then but didn't say anything. No-one questioned Big Dick's claim that "deficits don't matter" back then. The way I see it, if they didn't matter then, when we were war-mongering for the purposes of enriching the elite's bank accounts, it better not matter now, when the chief beneficiaries are the common folk, who've been left destitute by those fat cat frauds. How they insult us, as if we didn't know any better. Social Security and Medicare are no "Ponzi schemes", (as that idiotic dimbulb from your state is trying to say BB); they're a compact between the generations. It just shows the mindset of people that push those small-skulled arguments. THEY may have scads of wealth socked away, so they have little empathy for the folks who've been left out of the equation when factories and services are relocated offshore in the endless chasing of cheap labor, so to them, government IS a nuisance. Back in the day, serving as a public servant was an honorable profession, it meant doing something good and purposeful for society. Somehow it became something to be scorned; is it only because otherwise good citizens bought the Big Lie?

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That's how we ended up with the "DCTP", Simon. Foreknowledge can (supposedly) change it, thus the many variations and thus the fact that we never really DO have a pre-destined timeline. Remember Dan said at the time we were on "T1- variant 183" or something.....as opposed to the timeline on which the poleshift happens, "T2". I mean, just imagine....we have a pre-historic timeline in which there are no multi-verses or "variations" simply because there aren't entities and mechanisms to 'see' into the future....but as more entities become more sophisticated and add more hi-tech devices to 'see' the future, we then grow ever-increasing numbers of "variations"; where are they all stored? I mean, think about that.....a super-huge hard drive that sucks up ever more space as civilization evolves more and more opportunities to 'see' the future? (Perhaps that's what 'black holes' really are?)



Was it? Or was the need of Hollywood - and the Establishment, in their need to reflect a more inclusive and diverse fictional environment for the satisfaction of their more diverse audience - a parallel development to the real world in which that same ever-more diverse audience produced a qualified puppet-politician of color? Was the TV series "24", which also starred a black president, also a production influenced by time travel? Isn't it about time we have a president of Asiatic descent, or more importantly, a woman? I don't think Morgan Freeman was cast as the president because time travel had informed the script-writers, but it is a possibility.



Just to be clear, Simon, the super-tsunami has never had a date attached to it; who told you this "less than 100 days" bit?!? Certainly not zetatalk, though they HAVE intimated it. Of course, if the New Madrid 'big one' goes off in that time period (you'll know it, not a lil 5.9 or even a 7.0), I know you'll follow the practical course of action and head for high ground to avoid the drenching that's predicted (some who are unprepared may be washed to sea, but most will survive....they'll just get a good drenching). But you're doing the right thing in warning people to do the practical thing and prepare, no matter what.

That is interesting Don, and I would suggest Quantum Entanglement is to blame....

I have just carefully read you analysis in your previous two posts and I have to say, what bothers me about history of the past century, is the majik I find too often distributed throughout world affairs both simple and complex. Pricipia Discordia to me is just that - the ability to achieve majik by injecting conscious thought into the ether thereby influencing the microcosm of quantum space with a desired outcome. Power manipulated by intelligence for poor (Spiritual) outcomes - usually power and wealth. Why? Well why not - if you can live like a King in luxury with many serving your purpose designed to the desired result.

For me that result is the harvesting of "Loosh" or Soul energy - but nuff said on that for now. Personally I do not believe effective future time travel is possible, due to the nature of the time space continiuum and the fluid nature of the dimensional structure. We are just too limited in the 3D environment and the 24 dimentions that stretch out above us don't even broach the Higher "Heavens" according to my understanding of cosmology as depicted in the wonderful account thereof in the Pistus Sophia.

Rambling here, but suffice to say that all the complexity of the "play" by those whom have manipulated history, imo have only scratched around in the sand box and have really done little to even match the purpose of why we are all here on this planet.

Therefore again - all deception to distract!!

I will never forget one of the most simplest lessons I ever learnt -

"Empty Empty - Happy Happy" - The Dalai Llama

Hi Sky

I Have no idea if it's possible to travel into the future that hasn't happened yet, but I have been given future knowledge of events I attempted to use to help the Governement with at least a week in advance. For instance the Lockerbie bombing. At the time I was in communication with the Los Angeles, Ca. Space Division's Counter-Intelligence M.
I gave him enough detail with how it was going to happen and where the bomb was located, all except for the tail numbers of the plane to prevent the attack. I failed by not paying attention to those numbers, but they were shown to me.

Dex

DONDEP for president!

Uh, thanks for the vote Time Traveler but I don't think I'd ever be allowed to even be a candidate even if I put the effort into it. When I was a kid in first grade, my class was asked by a local radio station what we wanted to be when we grew up, as part of their big to-do grand opening of the new school, because we were the first class to occupy the new elementary school; before that, I had started going to school in a one-room schoolhouse, in a horse and buggy no less (Mennonites and Amish) - and I said "president". Little did I know it would be necessary to betray one's conscience in order to hold that office, unless of course you were of a selfish persuasion, or naive - and black-mailable. Later on in life I came to see that only politicians willing to be puppets for others were allowed to become candidates for even low-level positions, which is why I got involved in campaigns behind the scenes, helping forumulate strategy and policy - for the good guys, I thought. I really did at one time believe that the world worked according to the way we're taught to believe it does, but it really doesn't, which is what I was going to talk about in response to your comments, Sky.

The 3D world, as you were intimating in your post, is geared towards primitive goals, such as material acquisitions oriented towards greater physical comfort and control over other humans. Yes, there are monasteries and nunneries devoted to spiritual growth and the acquisition of wisdom, and academic institutions that are devoted to the acquisition of knowledge, but they're subordinate to the world of physical wealth and power. On a just world, virtuous men would rise to the top and we would have that ideal of "philosopher-kings", but instead we have people like Big Dick Cheney, Poppy Bush, the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds running things, and academia is exploited for what it can do to enhance the wealth and power of these individuals and families. This is fairly well known on a superficial level, but the ramifications of this state of affairs is rarely considered in depth, which leads the masses to continue having this delusional idea that the people at the top of the Establishment heap would do the right thing if only they knew what it was (and so we continue trying to tell them, by posting comments on news forums, writing emails to the White House, singing songs of rebellion, protesting and demonstrating, etc). The problem isn't that they don't know; it's that they don't care, and there is no stigma or countervailing force that provides a balance....particularly now that the elite know their sanctified dogmas and carefully cultivated reputations that are being punched full of holes by their exposed hypocrisy haven't resulted in any real accountability. In other words, they're learning they really CAN 'get away with it', and boy are they ever. They have no shame, but they do have scads of paranoia - which is why Big Dick n' Dadmiral, Poppy and Heinz (who once said that military officers were but simply stupid brutes and "oxen" to use to achieve political ends) and the rest of the 'retired' and current Maji are so keen on eavesdropping on any citizen they feel threatens them. It's also why groups like Anonymous are one of the few ways in which they can be made to feel the burn of their selfishness - by hitting the bast*rds where it hurts.

My attitude has always been to use logic over the long haul, despite the white-hot fury of rhetoric at times, to continually try to educate them that they would be better served if they really DID try to play by their own public rulebook, to at least put on the guise of meritocrats, to "do the right thing" and disclose what they know, to "come clean" about what they've done vis-a-vis their relationships with the extraterrestrials, and to STOP HIDING BEHIND THE LOWEST COMIC DENOMINATOR, using such devices as the Brookings Report to justify their selfishness. It will be the only way their souls can be absolved, for their sins to be expiated, and no I'm not talking about any public self-mortification rituals employing religious motifs. They know in their hearts what they need to do, but they simply refuse to do it, and for much the same reasons that many of us are too polite to be honest with those that don't agree with our belief system: fear. Fear of the reaction. Fear of retaliation. Fear they will lose their ill-gotten gains, despite their superficial knowledge that they really can NOT 'take it with them'. But.......it will be the only way. And that my friends would be what constitutes true "Disclosure".

Here's the plot line to a 2007 movie titled "The Last Mimzy"; note how eerily similar it is to the official story line of The Dan Burisch and Marcia McDowell Saga, variant maybe say 83.

"The Future Is Trying To Tell Us Something" [or is it just a variation of the Dan Burisch Saga]



The question is just as it was with "Deep Impact"; which came first, the fiction or the alleged non-fictional reality? Did Majestic sponsor the making of this movie, or did they adapt it for their own purposes of their intended 'legend' of Dan Burisch? Which one influenced the other? Remember that this is from 4 years ago, 2007, the year in which the "official" Dan Burisch attempt to "tell the world" was well underway and, unlike the earlier years before they were given orders to supposedly do what they had been risking their lives to do, started acting really full of themselves. Remember Dadmiral telling D&M "you must walk the road to Sion alone"? Marcia, who was always much more enthusiastic than Dan about joining the Priore de Sion, being told or even shown by the 'Looking Glass' that she would be the "mother of future humanity".....ponder how that would impact the average human female's psyche; it's entirely believable that this is the mindset she had genuinely been inculcated in, though entirely unbelievable that it is true.

I did take the liberty of including my own 'additions', to point out the parallels, but my additions are always bracketed. [Like this.] For the original, go here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Mimzy



Notice the tag line: "The Future Is Trying To Tell Us Something." Is it really? Is it anything 'new'? Or have we helped write that story before?

Very Interesting Don Marcia the "mother of humanity" I doubt it Chielah Lied to them and they Fell for it Like most of those erm.. "Cherubim" Luciferian tricks

Ah yes, Don, my lovely Governor Hairspray! This man is an idjit plain and simple.

Puhlease my lovely Republican friends don't be fooled. He is the proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing. And a dumb one at that.

This is the only man I know who makes Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann look intelligent.

Jest my two cents...

I edited and fixed your first post with the proper Link & Image TT

The only protion of the link that you posted that is required is this part, delete all the rest and it will work

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/newuploads/89b6e.jpg

Just highlight that above link and click the Image Tags in the post window

Thank's so much L2L!

Anytime

Don I didn't say that the Comet will cause a pole shift, all I said was that the Comet's Alignment with Earth and the other Planets always seem to cause an Earthquake, and some big ones at that...

And for the record it's NOT the comet or even a "supposed" collision with the comet that I fear, it's what is behind the comet in it's tail that I fear.

When we pass through it's path I expect we will be in for one hell of a show

As for the coincidence between Eleinin and the Movie Deep Impact I agree with you it sure seems to be more than just a coincidence

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Hi all. Has anyone seen anything about Elenin having a giant 3D tetrahedron force field? Kerry Cassidy posted a picture in her blog from Hoagland's site (sorry I'm rubbish with computers or I'd post the pic). I don't know how they can make the claim based on the stereo B photos.
Also, Clif High just put up a great article on halfpasthuman, called YAPMF, yet another planetary mind f... He's expecting a big stupid stunt by TPTW in the near future that will take about half the wealth of the world. I was reading in Nexus about a plan to move to a worldwide carbon currency, with energy being the sole currency, replacing paper money. These issues could be related.

Read more here:http://www.universetoday.com/88494/comet-elenin-could-be-disintigrating/

Is it just my account or can nobody view the H1N1 Watch thread?!?

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The h1n1 thread worked fine for me F.S.

The Planetary Alignment Paradigm

So, if "more than just a coincidence", what's the next step? If so, that would mean that indeed, the current Elenin fad was predicated on the fictional story. While Simon and TT suggested there's an element of time travel involved in bringing the story back through time, the more plausible explanation - using the famous Occam's Razor - is that the people of today who are involved in pushing the Elenin meme are more likely to have watched that movie in the past, than the scriptwriters were to have traveled forward in time. That of course begs the question, why fabricate it in the first place? Or was it intentionally obvious, for those that dig past the first neural layer? A/k/a "hiding in plain sight" for truthseekers to see that it was indeed a fabrication?

As you know I've often stressed the logic behind these things, rather than simply saying "the zetas told us this", or "the Bible told us that", etc. It's not good enough to repeat someone else's claims, but to truly understand what's going on. So having said that up-front, here's a snip that contains some of the logic involved from the NL/ZT POV, so that we can then contrast it with this new paradigm you're offering about "planetary alignment":



Earlier, in response to a question about an asteroid that had caused as much hoopla a couple years ago as Elenin is now, they had this to say, which is even more important to my mind and applies to Elenin as well as any other comet or celestial object other than Nibiru itself:



I know that some folks may think that's a contradiction and even "Wishful Thinking"; not at all. I've often tried to show the logic of the poleshift as part of the Creator's most magnificent intelligent design (I do believe in that; I'm neither a creationist nor a Darwinist/evolutionist, though evolution does play a critical role, it's just not the primary role that grows out of random chaos). These poleshifts arrive just as the sentient race has evolved to a point where they could become dangerous to other galactic species; is that coincidence or not? I think not. The one singular event that convinced me of the "protection" we're under was an impending impact from a meteor/meteorite on Istanbul, when something mysteriously deflected it from its course. Now, others who might have seen that may have been convinced by it that it was the "hand of God", and I guess in a way it was, but I think it was more likely the Creator's intermediaries, which we know of as ETs. It's because - as said in the above paragraph - certain ETs have the contracts for the rebuild, following the poleshift, and they have a vested interest in making sure the real estate doesn't get too screwed up either by an impact or by mankind throwing his nuke weight around. Also, a direct impact could warp the soul harvest and cause too many humans to despair of life if they knew that they and their whole nation could easily vanish in the twinkling of an eye by an impact by a comet or asteroid or meteor. Since part of their contract deal was in assisting with the soul harvest, they have a vested interest in not only the real estate but the crops in the garden. The poleshift, on the other hand, will greatly shake things up, reduce the material civilization of mankind to such a primitive state that it wouldn't be able to rebuild sufficiently before the existing soul-base is whisked off to their new homes, or re-installed in the new model of humanoid known as the hybrids that had been slowly grown/contructed/raised/birthed during the period of abductions in the 1970s, 80s, and 90s. This is at least part of the logic I've come to understand, and if one presumes that ET has had treaties with our gov't. for over half a century and haven't told us, then it all makes sense as I've roughly outlined.
Then, too, there is the overwhelming logic of a large magnetic mass (as Nibiru allegedly has; 23 times the magnetic mass of Earth while being only 4-1/2 times our phsyical size) tumbling us in its magnetic field, as it's allegedly supposed to do. If we presume the truthfulness behind the many prophecies and folklore, then again, it makes logical sense. {wow...pause to interrupt myself....I have the History Channel on in the background and a show on "comets" came on, perfect timing....and I heard the words "elliptical orbit" and I looked up and - about fell out of my chair - there was the diagram of the solar system inclusive of Nibiru as shown on the cover of Popular Mechanics back in 1987}

So, to recap, we have the logic of a magnetic field causing the havoc attendant upon a poleshift, while at the same time having a sentient 'shield' of sorts above us that protects us from impacts and other devastations caused by comets/asteroids/meteorites {at this very moment as I'm typing this, the History channel's TV broadcast of "Comets: Prophets of Doom" is pointing out the impact of the Shoemaker-Levy comet on Jupiter and warning how it could happen here, "that threat is very real", and how it could wipe out humanity in a brutal fashion in a wink - the poleshift will NOT do that, BTW - and now it's showing footage of the Heaven's Gate cult that allegedly committed suicide to 'join up' with the alien craft traveling in the tail of the Hale-Bopp comet....sheesh....now THAT is classic 'doom n' gloom'....no WONDER so many people confuse that kind of unwarranted despair with what's supposedly going to happen when Nibiru shows up in the daytime skies}. {Factoid: the word 'comet' comes from 'astrocometus', meaning "long-haired star"....lmao.}

Contrast that with the concept of this 'planetary alignment', L2L. Do you think the combined magnetic fields of the various planets and this comet Elenin could produce anything of a nature similar to what I've outlined above, re the magnetic mass of Nibiru? Consider: the gas giants of Jupiter and Saturn have a much smaller magnetic mass than even we do, because they're gas giants....by definition not magnetic behemoths. And a comet is a 'dirty snowball' supposedly because it's actually a missing part of Earth....torn from it during a previous passage of Nibiru that resulted in one of its moons actually impacting the earth and causing a grievous wound that sent so much water and lava outward that we have as a result the asteroid belt and various comets and meteor showers. All bits and pieces of our beloved Earth when it was known as Tiamat and occupied a place in the solar system between Mars and Jupiter, instead of its present orbit. Allegedly. But logically, as well. At least for some. Consider also: there are dozens of large 5+ quakes every day; many days we have a half-dozen 6+ quakes as well. Let's consider the math involved. On any given occasion of planetary alignment, that day is sure to have that number of earthquakes. The big quake that shook up the eastern half of the US last week, and caused virtually all of DC to evacuate their offices mid-day, was a mere 5.8. (Actually, more like a 6.0....USGS always tries to dumb them down, but Reuters and the rest of the world called it a 6.) And the next day was a 6.8 in Peru. Wow. A 6.8 you say? Yet does anyone remember that? Of course not; virtually no cities were impacted, no damage, no deaths. So the mathematical odds of a 'significant' earthquake occurring on a day of planetary alignment are actually pretty high. Average, in fact; almost guaranteed to happen - the critical factor being whether the 'significant quake' affects a large urban area or not. Therefore I would say we would have to look beyond the coincidence and make some more precise observations and concrete calculations that would correlate the planetary alignment positions with the expected phenomena, else we'll have a situation such as happened recently when right-wing politicians claimed the crack of the Washington Monument was the result of God showing his displeasure with Obama for not siding enough with Israel. Obama came out against the Israeli settlements and voiced displeasure with Israel's policies toward the Palestinians, and then we have the earthquake and resulting crack in the monument, ergo God showed HIS displeasure towards Washington, right? And went on to double-down with unleashing Irene, right? (As Michele Bachmann suggested.) One thing does not always lead to the other, but it doesn't mean there isn't a connection. It just means that we have to be careful in our extrapolations.

Sound logical? Got any more data on the correlations of planetary alignments and seismicity? Also what's supposedly in Elenin's tail that's got everyone excited, other than perhaps Nibiru itself?

Well It doesn't for me it says::

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WTF could be causing this? as I've tried everything?!?

Very odd, fr33k.....I too get that message, when I click on the latest post which was made by BB yesterday. However, if you click on the forum heading proper, on the left side, you can navigate down through the threads and there's no problem. Of course, those are all posts from last year and before; there are only 2 posts made this year - in 2011 - one of them being made by Grist in Feb., and the latest one by BB yesterday. When I click on Grists' post, I can read his post but at the bottom it also says "You do not have the required permissions to read topics within this forum."

I do know that there are a few mod-only threads that unfortunately show up when a new post appears within a particular section; if you click on the forum title (left side) instead of the post itself (right side of the screen), you can access the forum, just not the particular mod/admin post. I think BB will be along shortly with more info about her latest post in there, but in the meantime, see if you can at least access the actual forum under "H1N1 Watch".

Here's where it seems to get tricky: if you click on the main forum heading, you get "H1N1 Outbreak", with a single post by Grist from Feb. You can read that post, but underneath that page it shows the "You do not have permission to read.....". However, if you go back, and click on the sub-forum titled "H1N1 Outbreak" (same thing, you would think), you then get the rest of the sub-forums (Northern Hemisphere, Southern, Vaccine, WHO, Rumors, etc). It appears the only thing you can't read - and apparently no-one else can either - is BB's latest post, from yesterday.

It's Working properly now...