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7 of 10 event Timeline 2.03 partially collapsed on T2.02
8 of 10 event Timeline 2.02 Collapsing in T2.01
9 of 10 event Timeline 2.01 collapsing in the T2.0
10 of 10 event Timeline 2.0 The Grat Catastrophe /Earth 90 deg Poleshift

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Thanks Don.

Well the moon turns red-ish during some eclipses, but of course the event being described here would be far more than that. Indeed this reminds me of the Biblical story from the time of Moses and ancient Egypt.

However we do not need to wait for this to happen to experience this, albeit in a milder form. Near to Glastonbury the Chalice Well is famed for its iron-rich waters which have coloured the rocks red oxide and are supposed to be good for one's health.

I've been there once, with some friends. This is a spring and people are encouraged to drink the water, even fill bottles and take it home.

Further downstream from the fountain where the water can be drunk there is a small pool where people can paddle in the cold water and hopefully sure some skin ailments. Its too cold to sit or lay in, although I suppose that people who like very cold water will do this.

This image from their website shows the waterfall.


This link leads to a virtual tour - the place to drink the water is the Lions Head.
http://www.chalicewell.org.uk/index.cfm/glastonbury/About.Tour

Returning to global upheavals, I have heard that several psychics are calling for some severe tectonic events "any time now" but especially the coming autumn. However, whether these are related to Px and the dust cloud I do not know. Comet Ison is also in the skies and it is expected to create much excitement within a few months from now.

Simon

So, will it happen? We have about 5 weeks to find out!!!

What a "good" time this would be to announce the global financial reset. Just so typical of the elite - do it when people are distracted, so that they can gain some sort of advantage.

Simon

EDIT TO ADD: Simon, that was recall that you were quoting, not me. But I agree with him on that.

As for what Dex said in quoting that article linking Snowden - fraudulently - to the claims of a "kill shot":

from http://zetatalk.com/ning/27jy2013.htm





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Lol....recall, you have an interesting way of debating, but okay, let's look at what you're snipping from ZT. (And btw, Dex makes an interesting point about the coastal Chinese.....unless there are hundreds more of those cities than we've been told about, those "ghost cities" are only capable of holding one sixtieth (that's 1/60th) of their population. And that's only to last the time between the coastal inundations up until the poleshift. It's a fraction of a percent of the coastal population.) Now we realize that all cannot be provided for, but to portray these things in rosy terms, as if the Chinese are all good guys, the US elite all the bad ones, isn't being truthful.

What I asked about, recall, and to this I have no answer yet, but it's not just myself that has been asking; I know a lot of people who over the years have patiently followed ZT, they know there's a poleshift coming, but the fact of the matter is that the zetas have been bamboozling their audience, just as much as the elite they're intending to bamboozle have been bamboozling us, their human public. I've always said that the primary audience for ZT - up until the announcement - is the elite. They know what's coming, and the zetas know what's coming, but those lesser humans that predicate their lives on what is said are often woefully underprepared to have spent the last 10 years learning how to be farmers and survivalists. They've watched their friends and family members laugh at them as they go about the business of normal life, go to graduate school, meet, court and marry, bear children, watch their children graduate, get jobs (if they can), make record albums and tour with their bands, etc. While I've been fortunate enough to still be living and breathing decently, I know of at least several people who can't say the same thing, who listened. I always count my blessings and am grateful for what I have, and I know that life is only 10% what happens and 90% how you deal with it, but there are others that have a much weaker constitution.

One of these days - soon, I'd wager - we'll even see D&M and the rest of the SNEDs thugs come out and say "we knew it all along, but we had to deny it so that you could enjoy the end of your days as comfortably as possible here on planet Earth". In fact, that's been their plan all along....but don't take my word for it. They'll come along and say it regardless, because they always have to be on the "winning side".

So my point still stands, recall, about the logic the zetas used. If Obama had NOT decided (and we have to presume he decided as early as the end of 2010, the beginning of 2011, in order for the claim to at least bear scrutiny) to go ahead with the planned announcement, is it not true that the COW was going to let the natural course of PX create the horrendous calamities we were warned of, that would have occurred by now? Perhaps the conversation may have gone something like this:

COW: Obama, IF you do NOT alert the Common Man about what's coming, we're going to let PX take its normal course, resulting in the sinking of Singapore, Jakarta, much of south-east asia, and then multiple mega-quakes that will destroy Japan, and then a rip of the US in half that will result not only in the Great Lakes emptying into the Gulf of Mexico but will create a mega-tsunami that will race across the Atlantic and wipe out 70% of the coastal populations of western Europe, not to mention drowning much of Great Britain.

Obama: Ok, Ok, OKAY....let me think about it.....

COW: Hurry up....see, Jakarta's almost flooded already, and lookee here, a mega-quake in Japan already. What are you going to do? Want to let more people die horrific deaths?

Obama: OKAY THEN....let me see what I can do.....sheesh, you know how all these hard-a** money and military types are that I have to deal with....

COW: Alright then, if you're saying you'll do it then we'll take the gun away from your head and give you some time to get your act together.....but remind those greedy Japanese power-plant owners that we aren't going to clean up their poo-poo next time.

Obama: Alright, I'll do it. They'll try to kill me of course....

COW: Don't you worry about that, we've got you covered there.

Obama: Okay, but it'll take some time.....

COW: As long as we know you're going to do it and take steps also to make sure you don't make it harder for the Common Man to deal with it when it does come.

Obama: But how am I supposed to do that? You guys know that if your predictions don't go according to ZT, all these STS types will take advantage of the extra time and yet the Common Man won't be in any stronger position, in fact they're more likely to give up on preparing, what with yet another White Lie....

COW: You let us worry about keeping them in line. We'll just chastise them for thinking they deserve the truth when so many more might be saved by just another small white lie. Just hurry it up with your plans.

Obama: Okay, but it looks like I'm going to have to do a lot of house-cleaning first. A LOT.

COW: Then GET STARTED! Meanwhile we'll start putting some humming boxes along your west coast. We'll tell the zetas to use the term "pending"; what's a year or 2 or even 3 when we're talking Transformation of the planet anyway, right? Right.

Obama: Thanks guys. Maybe a year should be long enough; I have a lot to keep me busy and I have to do all this in secret, too, meanwhile laughing at stupid Mayan 2012 calendar jokes, lie about "climate change" and all that crap Al [Gore] left me with.....whoo boy. Okay. Deal.

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The point is, the zetas moved the goal-posts once, in 2003. They called it the 'White lie' (the 'Grey Lie' is more like it). That made sense, once they explained it. Knowing they could do it, everyone then knew (except the more naive among us - looking in the mirror here) they could and would move the goal-posts again, which they did, in late 2010/early 2011. Another year and a half went by, and yet again they moved the goal-posts by declaring a 'pending announcement'. It's now more than a year later (or just shy of a year, depending on which goal-post you want to quote ) and the goal-post has been moved yet again.

Can you blame those who don't want to hear of it any more? Sadly, no, but that doesn't mean it isn't going to happen. At this point, the only logical thing to contemplate is when a HUMAN (read: Obama) will announce the presence of PX/Nibiru in the inner solar system, and THEN people will take action. Until then, I'm not going to encourage the dimbulbs of earth to listen to aliens, unless they can divorce themselves from any inflammation of a 'time-line'. To do otherwise is to encourage them to lean STS.

Recall, my apologies for attributing something you wrote to Don.

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I dont know the fine details, but there was someone who used the code name of POOF and although he / she recently passed on the Office of Poofness is still very much in existence.

Below is some text from a recent message of theirs, copied from a yahoo group. Does it make sense to anyone?

Should I start buying Vietnamese or Iraqi currency?

Simon

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THE PURPLE PIG WILL FLY ON SEPTEMBER 1, 2013.

EXPECT TO SEE THE MASSIVE CHANGES BY OR AT THAT TIME.

WHY?

ONE INDICATOR IS:

Thursday, 25 July 2013

Ben Bernanke announced that he is resigning the Federal Reserve effective September 1, 2013.

One of the Federal Reserve Governors has resigned effective September 1, 2013.

Janet Napolitano [Homeland Security] has resigned effective September 1, 2013.

The Most Holy Francis issued an Apostolic Letter on July 11 and effective September 1, 2013 that effectively stripped away the immunity of all judges, attorneys, government officials and all entities established under the Roman Curia [hint: All corporations are established under the Roman Curia]. All of these "persons" can now to be held accountable for war crimes, crimes against humanity, [hint: Divine Spirit is humanity], for the unlawful restrictions of the liberties of the divine spirit incarnate; for failure to settle the accounts; for continued prosecution of claims already settled, etc.

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/motu_proprio/documents/papa-francesco-motu-proprio_20130711_organi-giudiziari_en.html

I have to go along with your view here Dex.

A number of articles in June indicated to mass movement of people in China, and I was dumbfounded by their basic "Reason" - to give the land to more productive corporations - seemed a bit thin to me not to mention strange. I mean - moving 250 million people?

Here is one of those articles:

China’s Great Uprooting: Moving 250 Million Into Cities
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/16/world ... d=all&_r=0



Now moving those people to the new ghost cities makes sense if the ruling party want to claim their benevolence as STO's when the time comes.

I am also well stimulated by the present PX/Potus discussion and welcome the debate and enjoying the small exposures leveled. But I have to hold my personal position on the fact that I still call the PX bluff just that. We will not see it or its effects. There is just no evidence of this on my personal radar. Just cheap talk? I say this as some are making packets off this D I S T R A C T I O N. The biggest transfer of wealth in living memory?

We are approaching the famed Electromagnetic Null Zone (jury still out on what exactly it is) and that will manifest more and more evidence - like our planetary magnetics have shown by falling continuously along with other "strange" observances in planetary response documented recently.

And as for the effects of all the coming Earth Changes - we have to continue getting our local Eco-villages established - or suffer the consequences when the system finally does go down.

Oh - and this whole debacle :: is a "Spiritual Thing". Final chance to get the low down on how to make progress from this galactic experiment running to a close. Just a few more years and all will know the Truth as it will be a collective thing on a quantum change level.

But then that is just my opinion. I trust No-one. I only trust the ancient prophecies.

Edit to add: And my own small still voice....

I am also intrigued by the sudden Kill Shot info being bandied around. It does remain a threat anytime in the future, history proves that - but I believe it will be due to instability from a galactic source - like a Pulsar or similar source.

The kill shot event was confirmed by a very reliable source recently - but only as a possibility.

So eyes open folks - we can be safe out there.... we need to keep spreading the awareness we gain right here.

And speaking of spreading awareness, Sky, here's something intriguing; did you or anyone know there's no "whistleblower protection" law on the books in the US? I was taken aback, but coincidentally TODAY is now - thanks to GOP Senator Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) introducing the resolution in the Senate at least - "National Whistleblower Day". If anyone can stand the scrutiny and small payback that comes from signing an online petition to recognize whistleblowers, here's your chance. You can even modify the "form" letter they give you as an example, as I did parenthetically and with post-script:




http://action.whistleblowers.org/p/dia/ ... _KEY=11664

and to see what else is up with whistleblowers, here's yet another blow that makes the whole purpose almost null and void, due to an exception for "National Insecurity":



So even though I once approached those "whistleblower protectors" several times, to no avail, they are set up specifically NOT to assist people who are serious about the Coverup, people aware of the alien interaction and the pending poleshift. (The reason for their paranoia, hidden behind National Insecurity.) Still, it doesn't hurt to sign this letter to Mr. Obama; at least it's one way to say you tried to do something.

Happy National Whistleblowers Day everybody.....

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Dondep:
Circa 2008 Charlie gives a hint of what happened when a near Nibiru approach made a severe gravitational pull and push of planet Earth from its orbit/Goldilocks area:

viewforum.php?f=74

I'd forgotten about all those Charlie posts, recall.....good thing they're all in one place here.

If I'm not mistaken, you're suggesting the following snip for contemplation:



The post goes on to detail how McCain originally won the 2008 election due to continued voter fraud, but the "interference" allowed Obama to win by the margin that he should have (and Charlie should know it's "landslide", not "landfall", lmao....), but there is nothing specifically about PX being altered in its course, or maybe I missed it somehow even after re-reading it.

The logic he employs in the last sentence - "making as many people aware to the warning signs as possible so they can act more swiftly when TSHTF" tends to ring more and more hollow these days, for reasons I've illustrated before. While it sounds logical, in practice most of the people that I have warned have become much less attuned to the "signs" than they were before. Now maybe it's true, as NL/ZT states, that there are more 'guardian angels' being assigned to contactees, or even all those humans with a soul incarnated in their container, but the general attitude I encounter when I subtly try to mention the "warning signs" is more blase than it ever was. People simply seem to care less and less, and I'm talking about a wide swathe of diverse demographic groups here, too. Maybe their souls have been apprised of the newest info, courtesy of their new 'angels' or 'entities', but externally, they seem less attuned, less interested, in fact less lively all-'round.

Just my observations.

Meanwhile, I suppose we can count our blessings that Charlie and his associates are doing things like laying "humming boxes", and that any move to instill 'martial law' (quietly outfitting the nation's cities and towns with ex-military vehicles, as part of the increased militarization) is only one more thing to measure and deal with in the coming race to safety.

As a thought about how this "militarization of the police" might affect those who would seek safety from martial law, this video points up a huge problem that's growing by leaps and bounds under Obama:

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Wow! This is right out of DEEP IMPACT (the movie) Where the president made the anouncement AFTER they had all their ducks in a row. I recently bought the DVD to re-watch it. Quite an eye opener when you consider we have a large comet heading in our direction.

(Note: Hopefully, soon for Mexico too...Dex)

U.N. Warns It Will Disarm Congo Rebels

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/01/world ... ml?hp&_r=0

Regarding the entry @ 2013.06.18 Hasting Asesination

if you get a vehicle with OBDC2 Connector,
please revise/recheck every time you use it,
that there is nothing of intrusive DARPA/NSA connected there
that is used for them to remote controlled the main computer of a car...

See video of Hasting´s crash :
http://vimeo.com/71132682

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Good sleuthing, recall, to find a pic of the type of circuit-board used to commandeer control of a car. If you're going to play ball with the Coverup, you have to be prepared to live a life "on the run" constantly, in fear of death if necessary. Good thing Dan B. has acted in such an absurd manner, because few people believe what he says (unfortunately), though he's also quite aware of Nibiru now. In Hastings' case, he had a track record already as a sober and determined journalist, so any stories he had must have had a lot more "serious" meat on their bones, that the National Insecurity Establishment was afraid of him.

But getting back to the matter of timing, since you posted that June 2012 snip from NL/ZT that teased the audience about "maybe they could have Obama make an announcement".....

If I'm not mistaken, the COW decided at the end of 2010/early 2011 to arrest the 7-of-10 plate movements, in order to allow Obama to make an announcement, and therefore increase the size of the soul harvest for the STO, right? Yet it was a year and a half later (18 months at least) that we hear this tease by NL/ZT about an "announcement":



Hmmph! InDEED! So.....did the COW react to Obama's thoughts 18 months before the zetas "suggest" that he do the obvious? What took him so long, since we're told the COW placed the humming boxes in response to hearing his mental decision to "announce"? What was he doing all that time? (If indeed he had decided by early 2011 to "admit" it publicly; we'll assume he had decided at least by then, though even then he surely wasn't so stupid as to not have gotten his ducks in a row - or was he?)

Or....maybe it was the zetas going "BOOOOOOOO!!!!!!" to the elite.....as in, scare them into making the announcement. But, not surprisingly, the elite didn't bite! They stayed just as quiet as before, even as Jakarta and Bangkok began to flood and a mega-quake hit Japan. Yep, their lips were SEALED! But half a year later, we hear of Obama sailing to Indonesia - to tell the governments of that area the US wouldn't be taking any refugees in. Then how many seasons more before he makes a big trip to tell all the governments - including the secretive Cambodians and Myanmar-ese (Burmese?) - of the area that he's actually going to make an announcement after all, not just "let it happen"? Then more face-to-face with all the leaders of the world (because they don't talk about this electronically), ending with the more prominent African leaders most recently.

Whatever the case, we're not being told the truth, because the real truth is that anything in ZT having to do with a time-line is likely a ploy against the elite. They have zero vested interest in maintaining any semblance of current human society, as their agenda is to replace it, of course. Even as they give lip service (er, "practical advice - in the Troubled Times section") to helping humans prepare to keep their soul-containers from demise.

Meanwhile, "the purple pig will fly on September 1". Seems like a likely candidate for an announcement date. It's a Sunday, and when was the last time you heard of major federal officials making their resignation date effective on a Sunday?

EDIT TO ADD: Seems there are a few more people resigning the same day. One in particular is the police chief of Vancouver, Canada's largest (and only) city on the West Coast. Resigned July 25, '13 effective Sept 1, '13. Vancouver plays a major role in the DHS "exercises" that have taken place in recent years. This person was most likely to have more than a passing acquaintance with Sec. of the DHS.

An Ontario judge, same thing.

And from the financial sector, the Chief Financial Officer of Green Dot, the pay-as-you-go pre-paid debit card company.

And one of the head honchos of Marathon Oil, though mysteriously someone changed the web-page.

The University Provost of Wyoming's state university (Big Dick Cheney's home state).

The Senate Majority Leader of Maryland's General Ass'y.

and 111,000 other .....oh, wait a minute! Someone's already on to it; and it comes back to Rumour Mill News, with a video compilation of a whole host of resignations effective at the end of summer, the Labor Day holiday, the beginning of Fall:



Then I saw all the conspiracy sites filled with this. I wonder if I'm just not paying enough attention.

Don, everyone, re: all these resignations, are they because of imminent financial changes (the long awaited reset) or because its time to run to the DUMBS, prior to severe solar and or tectonic events?

Or Both?

In the past week or so I've seen an increasing amount of online "hints" that the ground under our feet is about to start shakin' about, with the coming autumn being a likely timeframe.

This link leads to a message for people in Hawaii advising them how to find some ancient tunnel entrances which will be opened for a few days before some major events. OK, few if any people here are on Hawaii, but whats relevant for us all is the theme behind the message.

http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/theend/messages/40727.html

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http://thepropheciesofnutstradamus.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/beware-2013s-august.html

Edit 2 to add:
http://comptedesaintgermainsblog.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/not-so-good-news.html

Simon

Simon, it's been my contention for over a decade that the "reset" is not because of financial changes, or the testing of the DUMBs (9/11 was the starting gun to prepare them for the perps scheduled to inhabit them following the May 2003 'White Lie' poleshift date), but that those are mere symptoms of the larger problem. We're only having financial problems now because the poleshift has been delayed; our erstwhile leaders had hoped to scamper to the bunkers years ago and hadn't anticipated what would happen if the zetas were found to have lied, both STO and STS (who told Dan Burisch the poleshift would occur March 28th, 2009). They had no problem running up the deficit (remember Big Dick's famous lie, "deficits don't matter"), no problem shipping production overseas, no problem packaging mortgages like so much Swiss cheese in with other "financial products" into a thick stew of bulls***, symbolized by that big hunk of bull outside the Merrill Lynch building on Wall St. (or wherever it is in Manhattan).

In other words; the poleshift will provide the "reset". The financial morass is a result of ill-planned reactions to being misled by aliens about the poleshift. The earth changes that are rumored are only rumor, and have been skewered due to the interference by the COW by placing those so-called "humming boxes" along major fault lines, parking PX "slightly to the right", and other tweaks and turns that are allegedly purposed to assist Obama in making his announcement to a largely credulous world. Those of us that know he'll be doing this are currently considered too "whacked", too "unbelievable", too weak in the noggin to take seriously, but we'll be vindicated eventually. Not that we should be looking forward to it.

Anyway; I see that the Snowden Syndrome is having a far-reaching effect by forcing the NDS Director to take shelter from the heckling by hackers at the recent "Black Hat" convention; note this is from the financial website Forbes:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenbe ... rstanding/



And for the coup-de-grace for these lying liars that repeatedly lie and gloss over their lies with more lies and appeals to patriotism (the last refuge of scoundrels):

Watch Top U.S. Intelligence Officials Repeatedly Deny NSA Spying On Americans Over The Last Year (Videos)

Here's the NSA Director openly lying to the house of liars known as Congress:



Here he's lying again; this is a very smooth liar, but considering his position, it's one of the job qualifications. Remember SNEDs is an outgrowth of this; Dadmiral's last gov't. job before becoming MJ-1 was as NSA Director, and who better to become a director of that agency than one of the head honchos of Booz Allen, the main link in the "military-industrial-intelligence complex".



In this one, he (NSA Director Alexander) isn't seen so much as heard, as he rolls through his propaganda:



And in the most glaring and damning piece of adroit lying to the US Senate, here he is one last, infamous time, responding to Sen. Wyden:



And to seal the point, Forbes (! The Forbes?!? The big mouthpiece on money?!?) on PRISM:

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mhl45edl ... m-slide-1/

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Thanks Don.

I agree that the elite probably never expected to have to face the situation we are now in, as the pole shift et al would have created the perfect time for the reset - one which few of the people still alive would have disputed!

But its my understanding that because of humanity's successful passing of some sort of nexus point in its evolution (after several failed attempts) so this time the geophysical events will not be anywhere near as severe as before, as "the gardeners" do not wish to clean the slate and start again.

Yes we will still experience upheavals, but this time most of us will survive and the majority of us somehow go through a dimensional event (or several such events) and end up at a different level of reality. The elites and others of their ilk end up staying on the 3D planet, and as the Gaia consciousness is moving its focus away from 3D so this will eventually become a denuded barren wasteland, just like Mars.

Nancy's Zetans have worked very hard trying to warn us, but its my view that they do this with (so to speak) one hand tied behind their backs. There are others "out there" who are more powerful than them who would harm them if they told us too much. Anyway, although the reassoning is different even the Zetans don't want our beloved (sic) elites to have information such as exact times, dates and places!

There are other Zetans as well (at least two groups, probably more), and as with the two Korea's the various groups see themselves as representing the entire group / race / nation / etc and the others as being interlopers who if talked about at all are referenced in a negative, disparaging way.

When the coming reset finally comes to pass, it seems likely that we Anglo-Saxons will end up in deep . We've treated our fellow humans appallingly and now face them becoming more powerful than us. I have concerns that London's days as a global financial centre will soon be ending, and since we as a nation have outsourced so much of our manufacturing industry so we will end up financially poorer than the third world nations. Its only humankind's change in thinking (away from war and towards brotherly & sisterly fraternity) that will save us from vengeful total wipe-out.

Partly this change in thinking will also be because the influence of others from elsewhere who covet this planet for themselves will be removed.

As I understand it, our elite are working on terraforming this planet for multidimensional off-planet "others", and hoping that by doing the bidding of their masters they will also be able to benefit their own asses. This, I understand explains the chemtrails etc.

One way in which we could all be wiped out en masse (when "they" are ready) would be via subdermal RFID chips which carry some sort of deathly payload. another way is via nano-particles distributed in the chemtrails and activated via the mobile / cell phone or radio or TV signals.

Apparently however the Quislings will only be retained for as long as they are useful - the longer term plan being to create a hybrid human species which can survive in space and become a large invading army for whoever it is trying to take over here to conquer other realms. It is human destiny to walk spread far and wide through the Cosmos, so "they" plan to help fulfill this - albeit in a heinous way.

To further this very long term aim "their" invasion (as such) of this planet has so far been through incarnating into bodies with the "right" genetics / bloodlines. In the 1950's there were B movies along the theme of body snatchers. I wonder whether anyone ever thought to look at the animating spark which comes in with the body that just popped out of a mother's womb?

Whilst I dont know who "they" are I wonder whether it is the serpent people who were around in Biblical days and then for some reason (our climate changed?) could no longer stay here.

Simon

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A Discussion of Souls, Densities, Dimensional Realities and Some Alien Agendas



Wow; thanks for presenting one of the most thoughtful perspectives I've heard in a long time. So few people have engaged in positing why we're in this current state following on the supposition of a poleshift, unless they're buying the illusion the Big Bros are selling on our major media, or if they're leaping to the 'official' conspiracy theories (leaving off at Big Brother, or the New World Odor, while ascribing an agenda to them not more than base, mundane greed and malevolence).

This part is the most intriguing:



So, would that be the majority of the sentient third of the planet's population? A majority of all humans, total? But more importantly, how would you describe these 'dimensional events'? And is the result (that most of us end up at a 'different' reality than we're in now) based on anything other than a form of 'wishful thinking', that somehow most of us are innately good and the "gardeners" will end up making a smooth transition for us from this crumbling reality to 4th-density perhaps?

I've tried imagining that, I have. In fact, the first time I read Oahspe, I saw that happening in the descriptions used to describe that moment of the soul harvest, with all the souls transitioning between the density of corporality (flesh, or 3rd-density) and ethereal (spirit, or 4th-density) 'as the ground shifted beneath them'....the soul-shepherds or cowboys would use 'flaming rods' to erect walls of fire and separate those that were frenzied and still physically fighting from those that realized they had entered a more 'ethereal' reality, in order to prevent them from getting 'tied up in knots'. Apparently this is a big problem in the spirit world immediately after going through the soul harvest a poleshift brings.

I also think your analogy to the Koreas is apt as well. Those of the STS are more akin to North Korea, though currently still showing more powerful than their counterparts, who haven't yet made 'The Move' to wrest away the STS illusion still being sold though even with "one hand behind their backs" they're making small but important moves in the right direction, just often-times way too subtle to seemingly make a difference. To wit:

It was the STO zetas, with the actual fact of Roswell, that sowed the technology we all rely on today - computers, lasers, hand-held devices that go way beyond what Rodenderry's Star Trek envisioned. That tech is used by all.....whereas the tech promised constantly from the STS (powerful flying saucers adroitly manuevered by the STS-controlled US military, 'time-travel' technology, cures for cancer, for aging - how can we forget The Ganesh Particle - and of course the much-ballyhooed Free Energy) is only possible in the dreams of the truly STO. Free Energy and the ability to move easily between densities would be the purview of the good-hearted, not the selfish - who shouldn't be allowed to do it anyway, except they have to be in order to keep Earth stocked with sufficient temptations to ensure a finely-tempered soul harvest.




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Along with George W Bush III-clone and Bill Clinton, the "envoys" that Obama is sending to Africa to help make way for fleeing Brits, Spaniards and Frenchmen. (That is, if the most recent ZT is to be believed.) British leaders helped sell out the West, with the caveat that they float gently down to the same level as any other labor-producing Third-World population is at, in hopes that the pole-shift would end the debate if nothing else (along with a lot of lives of 'useless eaters').



Sadly, I wish it were so, but the indications are that the "others that covet this planet for themselves" have actually been appointed as the soul-shepherds for this harvest, with the quid pro quo that the new hybrid race - what I call Homo Zeta-Reticulis - share equally as soul containers for terran-born souls as for zeta-origin souls.



I agree - up to the point about chemtrails, though you may be right. I know what ZT has to say about current-day chemtrails, and there is a certain logic to their claims, but if they (the corporate Nat'l Insecurity Establishment) have made such a deal with their inspiring 4th-density zeta manipulators and 'ethereal mentors', chances are high that they may be sowing the first part of an epoxy-type bio-horror (a two-part system, harmless until the 2nd component is introduced). That's plausible.



While the use of nano-particles as you describe is already in effect, per the Pleideans, who the Zetas have begrudgingly confirmed, I don't think the RFID chips would be used for destruction of the soul-containers; on the contrary, they would be the best way to control and keep productive said containers.



I'm glad you went on in the second paragraph to clarify, because if you're familiar with the one genuine "alien interview" (the book by Lawrence Spencer being based on the authentic transcripts US Army nurse Matilda MacElroy kept of her interview of "Airl", the Roswell survivor), you may recall how she (Airl was a 'feminine, nurturing' energy apparently) explained that seasoned officers like herself used 3rd-density "doll bodies", which they could vacate at will, while lower subordinates had to often suffer the pitfalls of true "flesh-suits" that we earthlings have to use. The Domain's goal is to [allegedly] bring Earth into the "galactic family" by illuminating it sufficiently for it to graduate to 4th-density, while the souls given over to the self, or the "old empire", a/k/a losers in the spiritual struggle, will be taken to prison planets where they can continue their abhorrent and painful behavior until their soul is either extinguished or they see the error of their ways or they graduate into powerful STS entities in the 4th-density.

As far as when the "animating spark" arrives? I'm given to understand it's not always at the moment of birth, but often months later, or months earlier, depending on a variety of factors that are sorted out by seraphim (okay, 'spirit guides') as well as the incarnating soul. I do think things reached a point, a "crescendo", and after I contemplated this a long time it seems extremely logical and even emotionally logical that this would have occurred following the defeat of the STS forces in WWII. Souls of soldiers fallen painfully in battle, birthed by women shocked with extra adrenalin from being bombed during gestation, soon blossomed into the counter-cultural warriors (the original 'rock stars') of the next 'dimensional reality'.

[And I do believe that not every earthling contains a re-incarnating soul, either. But because all are capable, all must be treated with the same reverence and dignity, because that's not only in the rules, it's 'most logical' (ergh; I'm beginning to sound like Spock! sorry about that....).]



I think they might have achieved the full flowering of their 'project' and Earth was terra-formed afterwards; then followed a period of about 700,000 years while everything created during their sojourn was able to disintegrate (except for the occasional vase, shoe, piece of jewelry that was solidified in coal for eons, which is how we know this).

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Incidentally,

LONG LIVE ED SNOWDEN! May we all have that much courage.

Today's news reflects that Britain is in a tizzy, supposedly, over "Operation Tempora", in which the UK prostituted itself to the US National Insecurity Establishment for cash, by spying for "a hundred million pounds sterling" by harvesting the data transmitted by Verizon, Vodaphone, British Telcom (sp?), and 2 others.....and all of it cc'ed to GCHQ. No respect for law, nor the dignity inherent in privacy; is that the mark of the self-less, or the self-ish?

This was originally leaked by Snowden in mid-June, but today both RT News (which has permanently toppled CNN in my estimation) and the BBC World News Service were all over it.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes ... sonal-data


I'll be writing AGAIN to my representatives to exhort them to hold hearings, but the US is bound and determined to save face by marshalling the mainstream media. NOT WORKING, Barack! Yep, you know it, so you castigated the Establishment for cultivating a disrespect for the law (thank you for small favors, Mr. President).

(Note: The benefit of whistle blowing...Dex)

SANTA ANA (CBSLA.com) — An eyewitness recorded cellphone video of a Santa Ana police officer shoot and kill an unarmed 22-year-old homeless man at a shopping center earlier this week.

The witness, who wished to remain unidentified, was standing in the parking lot of the Harbor Place Shopping Center on South Harbor Boulevard around 3 p.m. Tuesday when he said he filmed a confrontation in front of Jugo’s La Tropicana between an officer, later identified as a 13-year veteran, and victim Hans Kevin Arellano.

“She exited her patrol car, gun drawn, and asked the gentlemen to get on the ground. The gentlemen didn’t get on the ground, he was still inside the restaurant. She asked again. The man then exited the restaurant, and as he was exiting the restaurant, he said, ‘What are you gonna do, b—-?’ About a second later, she shot him in the chest,” he said.

CBS2’s Michele Gile showed officers the footage of the incident.

“Obviously this is the first time we’ve seen this,” said Cpl. Anthony Bertagna of the Santa Ana Police Department. “This is something that is going to be a key piece of evidence. It’s something that we encourage people, if they have, to bring forward. This needs to get in the hands of the D.A.

Continued:http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/08/01/eyewitness-records-santa-ana-officer-shoot-kill-unarmed-homeless-man/