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Spead To Much Time In the Deserts of NV to Near the Military Nuclear Test Sites. Looking for Guru's. .... You'll Come Back Changed! ;)

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Hey Burisch! I found the perfect future spokesperson for Majestic Twelve, EaglesDisobeyr and YOUR fourm. after all you need a good PR person and front person for the front offfices!

She's your man folks! Perfect :P


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MISS TEEN USA 2007





* A prime example of how the elites have DUMBED down America. .. just shakes head and cries..

And people wonder why dirty old 60 year old men with millions just love'm young! LOL


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Cross posting:

Contact has begun
Flying saucers, according to some, have been coming to Trout Lake, Wash.,
for years

By Russ Miller
for The Goldendale Sentinel

GOLDENDALE, Washington (STPNS) -- It's an exciting time at James Gilliland's
ranch outside of Trout Lake – not because there's nearly daily sightings of
flying saucers, that's been happening for years – but because a documentary
about the sightings has just been released.

The movie is called "Contact Has Begun," and Gilliland said last Saturday
that it is expected to be showing in select theaters across the country.
It's also available on DVD.

The documentary was filmed at Gilliland's ranch, a place called Sattva
Sanctuary. The movie delves into Gilliland's life story and includes
interviews with physicists and other experts who have visited the sanctuary
and seen phenomena that they call "definitely off-world visitations."

Gilliland said the documentary is similar to "What the Bleep Do We
Know!?" – a 2004 documentary filmed in Portland, Ore., that blends science
and spirituality.

Last Saturday afternoon, on a lawn near Gilliland's house, a half-dozen
guests had set up tents and blankets on the ground. Some had just arrived.
Others had spent the previous night there.

Some claimed they said they saw the flying saucers that Gilliland said have
been showing up about every evening, and sometimes during the day, for at
least the past 10 years.

Greg Acuna, of Portland, and three family members, described what they saw
the previous night.

"There was a light moving in a particular trajectory," Acuna said. "Then it
just lit up, as if it was powering up. It moved in different directions and
then shot up and out of sight."

His kids said they saw it, as well as a beam of light appear in the trees
behind them. These aren't airplanes, Gilliland and the others standing in
the field said. They are UFOs.

"Nothing flies like that, at those speeds, and then changing directions they
way they do," Acuna said. He added that this was his tenth visit to the
sanctuary over the past few years and he said he sees at least three to 16
or 20 UFOs each night.

"Only once did I see none," he said.

Typically, the flying saucers appear as a shining light about the size of a
dime in front of Mount Adams, 13 miles away. They come closer, moving in and
out of the trees, and even overhead. And guests at the sanctuary have taken
a lot of videos and still footage of the strange lights Gilliland said are
ships from other planets.

Gilliland's Web site, www.eceti.org., has numerous photos and videos of
flying saucers appearing over and near Sattva Sanctuary.

"Most of the footage and photos on the Web site are from guests," Gilliland
said, "and if you want to argue with them about what these objects are, then
you can."

Some of the videos guests have taken of flying saucers at Gilliland's ranch
can also be seen are on youtube.com.

"These beings are extremely spiritual and technologically advanced,"
Gilliland said. The beings inside the ships are also telepathic. So,
although Gilliland allows people to come to Sattva Sanctuary to see for
themselves, the strange lights in the sky, he asks for two big favors.

The first is to call in advance to make a reservation. He doesn't charge
admission, but he does expect a donation. The second favor is for people "to
keep an open mind," he said.

"These beings pick up on negative energy and fear," he added, and both will
keep the ships at bay.

According to Gilliland, how close the ships come to the field largely
depends on the emotional states and attitudes of the guests.

Saturday was Deborah Warren's first day at the sanctuary. She traveled from
Vernon, British Columbia, Canada, to see the flying saucers.

"I've wanted to come here for a very long time," she said. She said she had
heard of Sattva Sanctuary from friends and the Internet.

Gilliland recently conducted a conference at Sattva Sanctuary where more
than 350 guests and UFO and spiritual experts gathered. It was the second
one of its kind at the ranch.

Gilliland also hosts a radio show on the bbc.com radio network every
Saturday night. His show, where he often interviews experts from many fields
of study, is called "As You Wish Talk Radio."

He's also appeared as a guest on the nightly AM-radio show, "Coast to Coast
AM." Five times, according to his count.

But when Gilliland came to Trout Lake more than 21 years ago, he wasn't
expecting, nor was he planning on, seeing UFOs.

According to his biography, Gilliland was raised in a small desert town
spending most of his time in "nature."

In high school, he was a water polo team captain and on the swim team. He
said he experienced a wide variety of friends of all kinds.

College was very diverse, he said. He studied biology, chemistry, physics,
psychology, pre-law and pre-dental, yet did not acquire a degree or practice
professionally. He said having the diversity was more important in
understanding all walks of life.

He said he also learned all facets of the construction, grocery and real
estate industries. He owned his own commercial real estate company, which
developed and managed shopping centers and other large multi-million dollar
projects. He was also on the board of directors for the chamber of commerce.

Then came a near death experience. He almost drowned. And then he said he
realized that he could not continue life as usual.

This began a spiritual journey and 20-year quest which included six years of
yoga, The Inner Christ Ministry, and the Tibetan Foundation, where he was
certified as being an intuitive visionary of the highest consciousness and
energy. He has studied with other yogis, lamas, master teachers and
continuously has been taught from within through his extensive practicing of
meditation.

Others recognize him as a teacher, spiritual counselor, energetic healer and
published author. He wrote two books and was recently honored by a venerated
teacher in the lama traditions as "Rigdzin Norbu," which translated, means
"Jewel of Pure Awareness."

He found his ranch, he said, through dreams and visions of Mount Adams and
the Trout Lake area. While living in Hood River, he "dowsed" a map, and
located the ranch that he would later call Sattva Sanctuary.

He said he kept largely to himself, that is, until he felt as if beings from
other worlds were communicating with him.

"I thought it was my imagination," he said. But then, the beings began
visiting the ranch with their ships in the sky. "I wasn't looking for UFOs,"
he said. "They found me."

One day, about 10 years ago, while meditating, he said his sister pounded on
his door, urging him to come see what was outside. Above two trees, he said,
was a ship. Then a being came out of the ship and approached him.

"I've had face-to-face contact with them," he said Saturday.

"They are here now because we are at a crucial point in evolution, a
shifting of the ages and need their help to get through some upcoming major
cosmic events, and the tumultuous social, economic and physical earth
changes we are seeing now that will continue to escalate," Gilliland said on
his Web site.

They likely have chosen to regularly visit Sattva because of the diversity
of the guests that come here, he added Saturday. "They come from all
religious and spiritual backgrounds."

To arrange a visit to Sattva Sanctuary, e-mail Gilliland at
ufojames@gorge.net.


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Real-life 'Armageddon': British engineers bid to save Earth from deadly asteroid collision
By NIALL FIRTH - More by this author » Last updated at 19:37pm on 31st August 2007


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Like a scene from the hit film Armageddon, British engineers have joined a competition to try and save the Earth from a catastrophic collision with an asteroid which could be heading our way.

Apophis is a 300-metre-wide asteroid and is still millions of kilometres away.

But, in 2029, its orbit will take it worryingly close to Earth – closer than many satellites.

When it does, its orbit around the Sun will be affected and just a tiny shift of just a few hundred kilometres could mean Apophis returns in 2036 to slam into Earth, creating unimaginable death and destruction.

UK-based space firm EADS Astrium has bid to develop a spacecraft, known as Apex, which would reach the asteroid in 2014.

Apex will monitor it closely so as to better understand any risk it may pose in the future.

According to the Planetary Society, which is offering a £25,000 prize for the best idea to "rendezvous with and 'tag'" Apophis, something needs to be done to assess the risk.

The Society says on its website: "Will Apophis pass through the "keyhole," the small area on its 2029 path that would cause it to hit Earth on its next orbit in 2036?

"We have to find out, because if an impact is likely to occur, we're going to need all the time possible to plan and implement space missions to deflect it away from Earth."

The full mission would cost several million dollars to develop and run.

According to the Planetary Society, more than 100 teams worldwide are developing plans for Apophis missions.


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Another news story about a "Mysterious" stock traders making bets that the Markets will crash by Sept 21st!


http://www.financialnews-us.com/?page=u ... tview=true

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Mystery trader bets market will crash by a third Renée Schultes
16 Aug 2007
Carry trade unwinds as yen hits one-year high

An anonymous investor has placed a bet on an index of Europe's top 50 stocks falling by a third by the end of September, as world equity markets plunged for a third day and volatility hit a three-year high.

The mystery investor has bought put option contracts on the DJ Eurostoxx 50 index that will result in a profit if it plunges to 2,800 or below by the end of September. Based on the 2,800 strike price, the position covers a notional €6.9bn, and potentially even more using a market price of about 4,100 when the trades were done on Tuesday and Wednesday.

The identity of the investor is unknown but market sources speculated it was either a large hedge fund hedging itself against deepening losses, or a long-only fund manager pressing the panic button to protect its gains.

The investor has bought a total of 245,000 put options on the index. The September put option with a 2,800 strike was the most popular DJ Eurostoxx 50 contract yesterday, according to data from Bloomberg.

Volatility in European equity markets has risen sharply this week as investors cut back on the amount of risk they are taking. The VSTOXX index, which measures the volatility of the DJ Eurostoxx 50 index, hit 34 this morning, which is more than double its three-year average.

Similarly the volatility of the US stock market was trading at almost three times its three-year average, hitting 30 yesterday.

However, both indices continue to trade below their 2002 highs.

European stock markets were trading down almost 3% at by 13:00 GMT today, after large drops in Asia and Australia overnight. The Australian market fell 300 points at one stage when futures trading was suspended for over an hour and traders were forced to hedge positions by selling physical stocks rather than futures.

An analyst at Goldman Sachs JB Were in Australia wrote: "I think I shall remember this day as the day that I saw the market go to hell, look into the abyss - didn't like what it looked like and then came screaming back up as far away from there as it could get. ... It was a truly spooky day and I’ve seen a lot over the last 20 years but today will be one that anyone who saw it will never forget. But this is what market bottoms are made out of."

The rise in volatility and risk aversion has also contributed to a sharp appreciation in the Japanese yen, which has been used to finance the so-called carry trade, where investors borrow in a low-yielding currency to invest in one with a higher-yield.

Analysts' belief that the yen carry trade is set for a major unwinding has intensified today as the Japanese currency continued to rally in morning trade.

The yen strengthened today as it broke through several psychological barriers. The yen hit 113.60 against the dollar by 12:35 GMT, the first time in more than a year it has dropped below 114. The yen was substantially up against the dollar from yesterday, when it traded at above 116.

Simon Derrick, head of currency research at Bank of New York Mellon, said: "With any hope of even a brief bounce emerging in the yen crosses evaporating in the fierce glare of another horrible close in New York, it is clear that the vicious, self-reinforcing, downward spiral we were worrying about is already firmly established."


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Dex, quoting Russ Miller of the Goldendale Sentinel, wrote:
"They are here now because we are at a crucial point in evolution, a
shifting of the ages and need their help to get through some upcoming major cosmic events, and the tumultuous social, economic and physical earth changes we are seeing now that will continue to escalate," Gilliland said on his Web site.


And that's from the mainstream press, Dex?? If so, great find! Even so, I wince with the thought that people will leap to the conclusion that "the spaceships will take us away from Earth to safety [i.e. a different planet, like say the Dark Side of the Moon, or Mars, or maybe even Ganymede...]" Sadly this isn't the message intended, but the fact that many folks are embracing the reality of a sentient galactic neighborhood will satisfy many a yearning.

The concept of a soul harvest, to those only now embracing the reality of an extraterrestrial intelligence much more wise than we are, is still a subject better left to the 'interested few' until the earth changes commence full-force.

PSA - DanBurisch.Info Now Nearly Fully Restored

The legal documents, communiques, in fact most of the site is back up to where it was in its prime, with the exception of the 'Science' and 'Analysis' section ---- which obviously have to be rewritten in light of the turmoil and Big Psy-Op that took place last year.

There's also a mini-update regarding current events. Soon I hope to have all the video from the surveillance tapes posted that I'm trying to convert.

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Pentagon Declears War On The Internet? Why isn't this surprising its the last vestage true Freedom left.

Has a good piece on how Psy-Op's are conducted on the net.

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US plans to 'fight the net' revealed

By Adam Brookes
BBC Pentagon correspondent

A newly declassified document gives a fascinating glimpse into the US military's plans for "information operations" - from psychological operations, to attacks on hostile computer networks.

Bloggers beware.

As the world turns networked, the Pentagon is calculating the military opportunities that computer networks, wireless technologies and the modern media offer.

From influencing public opinion through new media to designing "computer network attack" weapons, the US military is learning to fight an electronic war.

The declassified document is called "Information Operations Roadmap". It was obtained by the National Security Archive at George Washington University using the Freedom of Information Act.

Officials in the Pentagon wrote it in 2003. The Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld, signed it.

Most computers will open PDF documents automatically, but you may need to download Adobe Acrobat Reader.

The "roadmap" calls for a far-reaching overhaul of the military's ability to conduct information operations and electronic warfare. And, in some detail, it makes recommendations for how the US armed forces should think about this new, virtual warfare.

The document says that information is "critical to military success". Computer and telecommunications networks are of vital operational importance.

Propaganda

The operations described in the document include a surprising range of military activities: public affairs officers who brief journalists, psychological operations troops who try to manipulate the thoughts and beliefs of an enemy, computer network attack specialists who seek to destroy enemy networks.

All these are engaged in information operations.

Perhaps the most startling aspect of the roadmap is its acknowledgement that information put out as part of the military's psychological operations, or Psyops, is finding its way onto the computer and television screens of ordinary Americans.

"Information intended for foreign audiences, including public diplomacy and Psyops, is increasingly consumed by our domestic audience," it reads.

"Psyops messages will often be replayed by the news media for much larger audiences, including the American public," it goes on.

The document's authors acknowledge that American news media should not unwittingly broadcast military propaganda. "Specific boundaries should be established," they write. But they don't seem to explain how.

"In this day and age it is impossible to prevent stories that are fed abroad as part of psychological operations propaganda from blowing back into the United States - even though they were directed abroad," says Kristin Adair of the National Security Archive.

Credibility problem

Public awareness of the US military's information operations is low, but it's growing - thanks to some operational clumsiness.

When it describes plans for electronic warfare, or EW, the document takes on an extraordinary tone. It seems to see the internet as being equivalent to an enemy weapons system

Late last year, it emerged that the Pentagon had paid a private company, the Lincoln Group, to plant hundreds of stories in Iraqi newspapers. The stories - all supportive of US policy - were written by military personnel and then placed in Iraqi publications.

And websites that appeared to be information sites on the politics of Africa and the Balkans were found to be run by the Pentagon.

But the true extent of the Pentagon's information operations, how they work, who they're aimed at, and at what point they turn from informing the public to influencing populations, is far from clear.

The roadmap, however, gives a flavour of what the US military is up to - and the grand scale on which it's thinking.

It reveals that Psyops personnel "support" the American government's international broadcasting. It singles out TV Marti - a station which broadcasts to Cuba - as receiving such support.

It recommends that a global website be established that supports America's strategic objectives. But no American diplomats here, thank you. The website would use content from "third parties with greater credibility to foreign audiences than US officials".

It also recommends that Psyops personnel should consider a range of technologies to disseminate propaganda in enemy territory: unmanned aerial vehicles, "miniaturized, scatterable public address systems", wireless devices, cellular phones and the internet.

'Fight the net'

When it describes plans for electronic warfare, or EW, the document takes on an extraordinary tone.

It seems to see the internet as being equivalent to an enemy weapons system.

"Strategy should be based on the premise that the Department [of Defense] will 'fight the net' as it would an enemy weapons system," it reads.

The slogan "fight the net" appears several times throughout the roadmap.

The authors warn that US networks are very vulnerable to attack by hackers, enemies seeking to disable them, or spies looking for intelligence.

"Networks are growing faster than we can defend them... Attack sophistication is increasing... Number of events is increasing."

US digital ambition

And, in a grand finale, the document recommends that the United States should seek the ability to "provide maximum control of the entire electromagnetic spectrum".

US forces should be able to "disrupt or destroy the full spectrum of globally emerging communications systems, sensors, and weapons systems dependent on the electromagnetic spectrum".

Consider that for a moment.

The US military seeks the capability to knock out every telephone, every networked computer, every radar system on the planet.

Are these plans the pipe dreams of self-aggrandising bureaucrats? Or are they real?

The fact that the "Information Operations Roadmap" is approved by the Secretary of Defense suggests that these plans are taken very seriously indeed in the Pentagon.

And that the scale and grandeur of the digital revolution is matched only by the US military's ambitions for it.

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Shady waves a hello to the NWO drone agent hiding out as guest for the past weekend. :)

Like I wouldn't notice.
:roll: Don't insult my intelligence.

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Here you go .. :)

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Entered into the database on Wednesday, August 01st, 2007 @ 19:47:10 MST




The Department of Defense is planning to implant microchips in soldiers' brains for monitoring their health information, and has already awarded a $1.6 million contract to the Center for Bioelectronics, Biosensors and Biochips (C3B) at Clemson University for the development of an implantable "biochip".

http://www.clemson.edu/c3b/projects.html


Soldiers fear that the biochip, about the size of a grain of rice, which measures and relays information on soldiers vital signs 24 hours a day, can be used to put them under surveillance even when they are off duty.

But Anthony Guiseppi-Elie, C3B director and Professor of Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering and Bioengineering claims the that the invivo biosensors will save lives as first responders to the trauma scene could inject the biochip into the wounded victim and gather data almost immediately.

He believes that the device has other long-term potential applications, such as monitoring astronauts’ vital signs during long-duration space flights and reading blood-sugar levels for diabetics.

“We now lose a large percentage of patients to bleeding, and getting vital information such as how much oxygen is in the tissue back to ER physicians and medical personnel can often mean the difference between life and death,” said Guiseppi-Elie. “Our goal is to improve the quality and expediency of care for fallen soldiers and civilian trauma victims.” The biochip also may be injected as a precaution to future traumas."

Clemson scientists have formulated a gel that mimics human tissue and reduces the chances of the body rejecting the biochip, which has been a problem in the past.

The researcher predicts the biochip is five years away from human trials, and the DoD could start implanting microchips in soldiers bodies soon after.


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Is this what you signed up for to defend? When you signed up for Military duty? To protect the drug profits of your Elite?

As you know this past week reported that the Afganistan poppy fields are at HISTORIC Record levels of production! Guess whose working those fields Good Old Uncle Sam!

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Sources close to the Aga Khan (the Imam of the Shia Ismaili Muslims) report that his special envoy to Kabul and Islamabad has complained to the Hamid Karzai government about the involvement of U.S. Special Forces and paramilitary private contractors in Afghan opium commerce. The smuggling of opium from Afghanistan, according to Afghan and Ismaili sources, involves trans-shipment routes through Turkey and the Balkans. The U.S. Special Forces are working with Russian-Israeli Mafia and Greek and Kurdish Mafia syndicates in Turkey to smuggle the opium. The proceeds from the opium smuggling are being laundered through Russian/Israeli Mafia-controlled banks in Cyprus.

U.S. Special Forces' opium smuggling in Afghanistan draws ire of Aga Khan.

The smuggling is also reported to involve the huge worldwide air cargo fleet of alleged Russian Jewish weapons smuggler (and friend of Afghan warlord Gen. Abdul Rashid Dostum and former supplier of arms to the Taliban and Al Qaeda) Viktor Bout. Iranian intelligence is also keenly aware of the U.S. military's role in smuggling Afghan opium to Turkey and beyond.

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As previously reported by WMR, the Russian/Israeli Mafia-connected Jack Abramoff targeted recently-convicted Ohio Republican Rep. Bob Ney with tainted money in order to neutralize him as a back channel for the CIA to Tehran. Ney worked in Iran's School of Shiraz in 1978 where he became conversant in Farsi. He was also an "energy consultant" (CIA non-official cover) at the same time and was involved with Iran's initial nuclear program development, a program encouraged and assisted by the United States. While a member of the House, Ney provided important contacts for the CIA's Counter-proliferation Division and the CIA front company exposed by the White House -- Brewster Jennings & Associates.

But Ney may not be the only back channel to Iran neutralized by the neo-cons, who are anxious for a war with Iran. According to WMR's Middle East sources, the recent rape charges against Israel's President Moshe Katsav reportedly are an attempt to neutralize him as a back channel to Tehran. Katsav, an Iranian Yazdi Jew, is said to have an important direct link to former Iranian President Mohamed Khatami. One of Katsav's cousins studied with Khatami at Tehran University. In fact, Khatami studied and translated the works of Alexis de Tocqueville into Farsi. Katsav's back channel to Khatami, whose recent visit to the United States was decried by the neo-con quarters, was as worrisome to the neo-cons as Ney's direct links to Tehran. Therefore, Katsav was charged with sexually assaulting a member of the staff at his official residence -- eliminating another important link between the West and Iran.

According to U.S. intelligence sources, one of the reasons former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage was eager to expose the CIA's Counter-Proliferation work in South and Southeast Asia was that it focused on long-standing smuggling routes dating back to the 1970s, when Armitage worked as a partner for SEA THAI Ltd., a CIA "import-export" proprietary firm in Bangkok. Part of his time with SEA THAI was during the CIA directorship of George H. W. Bush in 1976, a time when the CIA was engaged in opium smuggling with the northern Burmese renegade army of Gen. Khun Sa. This was also a time during which the initial nuclear weapons smuggling operations of Pakistan's Abdul Qadeer Khan and his CIA enablers was underway -- operations that were known to Bob Ney in Iran in the late 1970s and other CIA agents who preceded by over a decade Valerie Plame Wilson and Brewster Jennings in tracking the nuclear smuggling routes that also involved drug smuggling operations. Before arriving in Bangkok, Armitage was stationed in Tehran from 1975 to 1976 where he worked with future Iran-Contra weapons smuggling perpetrator, Gen. Richard Secord.

In 1978, without any previous experience on Capitol Hill, Armitage became administrative assistant to Sen. Bob Dole of Kansas. Had Gerald Ford won re-election as president in 1976, it is clear that Armitage would have gone to the White House to work for a Vice President Bob Dole. Instead, he bided his time and joined the Reagan administration in 1981 as Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for East Asia and Pacific Affairs and then as 1983 to May 1989, he served as Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs from 1983 to 1989. From 1989 to 1993, President George H. W. Bush appointed Armitage Special Mediator for Water in the Middle East and Coordinator for Emergency Humanitarian Assistance to the Newly Independent States (NIA) -- a position in which Armitage had first-hand contact with post-Soviet leaders like Azerbaijan's Gaidar Aliev, with whom Armitage would strike even closer ties as head of the U.S.-Azerbaijan Chamber of Commerce. Armitage's past intrigues throughout Asia were well known to the CIA. The exposure of CIA covert networks in Asia involved in ferreting out nuclear and other smuggling activities kept sleeping dogs laying for members of the Bush II administration who feared exposure of their past and current activities.


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President Bush's apparent plans for a preemptive nuclear strike on Iran will only add to the civilian death toll as a result of US intervention that has placed the president "high on the list of mass murders of all time," a former aide in President Ronald Reagan's administration known for strident anti-Bush rhetoric said Friday.

"Bush is too self-righteous to see the dark humor in his denunciations of Iran for threatening 'the security of nations everywhere' and of the Iraqi resistance for 'a vision that rejects tolerance, crushes all dissent, and justifies the murder of innocent men, women, and children in the pursuit of political power,'" writes Paul Craig Roberts, a former assistant secretary of the Treasury. "Those are precisely the words that most of the world applies to Bush and his Brownshirt administration."

Roberts, who has emerged as a fierce critic of Bush's war policies, accused the president of ignoring habeas corpus and the Geneva Conventions, justifying torture and demonizing critics as anti-American.

"Bush ... is responsible, according to Information Clearing House, for over one million deaths of Iraqi civilians, which puts Bush high on the list of mass murderers of all time," Roberts writes in a column published Friday on antiwar.com. "The vast majority of 'kills' by the US military in Iraq and Afghanistan are civilians."

A report last month found that US and NATO troops killed more Afghan civilians in the first half of this year than the Taliban.

Roberts said the media is too concerned with stories like Sen. Larry Craig's (R-ID) arrest for allegedly soliciting sex, and Miss Teen South Carolina's inability to answer a question.

"The war criminal is in the living room, and no official notice is taken of the fact," Roberts writes. "Lacking US troops with which to invade Iran, the Bush administration has decided to bomb Iran 'back into the stone age.'"

Roberts cites a recent RAW STORY report that the US is preparing a "massive" military strike against Iran to support his assertions.

"Encouraged by the indifference of both the American media and Christian churches to the massive casualties inflicted on Iraqi civilians, the Bush administration will not be deterred by the prospect of its air attacks inflicting massive casualties on Iranian civilians. ... Clearly, turning the Muslim Middle East into a wasteland is the Bush policy," Roberts writes. "For Bush, civilian casualties are a non-issue. Hegemony uber alles."


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Saving Earth and humanity critically relies on developing Extraterrestrial awareness

by Peggy Chang


Aert de Gelder's The Baptism of Christ, 1710. This painting shows John the Baptist with Jesus beneath what appears to show beings associated with an Extraterrestrial spacecraft in the sky shining rays of light on him.


Herein is a question that one may ask when witnessing environmental catastrophes, genocides, and wars: Why is Humanity apparently destroying itself?

Appreciating this question may very well lead to a state of mystifying perplexion, if one does not have an awareness of the “Extraterrestrial factor”. Critically appreciating the human identity in the universe, relies on our understanding the spectrum of extraterrestrials that continue to be in contact with Earth. Some Extraterrestrials seem to have benevolent intentions which seek to inspire humanity to realize its enlightenment, through a spiritual self-awakening. However, many other Extraterrestrials, have been reported by witnesses and researchers to be Manipulative, and seek to work with greed-driven human elites, toward the enslavement of humanity, and general exploitation of Earth, up to its organic destruction.

The systematized denial of UFOs as alien spacecraft, and of contact by Extraterrestrials with Earth, is an apparent attempt by Manipulative Extraterrestrials and the human elites that they control with greed, so as to thereby retard a human spiritual awakening. UFO and Extraterrestrial dis-information is a vocation designed to keep humanity mired in an ignorance of humanity’s self-worth in the broader universe.

Human elites that are guided by the apparent demonic consciousnesses of Manipulative Extraterrestrials, seek to keep humanity enslaved to systems of social control and exploitation, like global capitalism, organized religion, and other oppressive authority driven systems.

The ability of humanity to collectively become aware of its origin as a species relative to Extraterrestrials, is being intentionally undermined by interests which seek to keep humanity as ignorant as possible of who we are as a human species, relative to UFOs and Extraterrestrials areas.

Manipulative Extraterrestrials, have been apparently drawn to Earth, according to ancient Gnostic disciples of Jesus, as a result of the malevolent and ego-driven thought energies of some correspondingly malevolent and ego-driven human elites. Manipulative Extraterrestrials then apparently seek to use those ’negative thought energies’ to turn humanity against itself. In order to accomplish that objective, humans are institutonalized by global capitalism, organized religion, militarism, and ego-centred power politics, into a path of ignorance of the ability of human beings to achieve a spiritual awakening.

Such an awakening, in turn, could be used to repel Manipulative Extraterrestrials. UFO and Extraterrestrial disinformation are comparable to white collar bank robbers who are attempting to electronically rob a bank, with inside help from bank staff who deny the existence of the plot.

Please note that spiritual awakening has nothing to do with following an organized religion, which itself has been reported as being a structural operation by Manipulative Extraterrestrials that aim to control humanity.

The same groups that have been reported by scholars like Dr. Michael Salla, to be working with Manipulative Extraterrestrials, are als the groups which are responsible for apparently mischievously pretending that humanity is still in search of other intelligent life in the universe.


The core nature of Manipulative Extraterrestrials, is apparent techniques of mass-deception, which their alleged human minions seek to emulate. A prevailing religious-political-military-industrial complex seeks to keep humanity as ignorant as possible about Extraterrestrials. That technique is similar in principle to the reasons that an irresponsible parent may use, in correspondence with seeking to deny their children the ability to read and write, and to acquire an education.

The U.S. religious-political-military-industrial complex and its supporters in other Western industrial societies seeks to deny and to scramble information about Extraterrestrials, because this Complex views that access to such information, would potentially liberate humanity from the targets which the Complex seeks to achieve.


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More of Courtney's Vicarious intelligence gathering...Dex

Subspace Helpers:


Same day, 1:30 P.M. My trainer and I just got back from lunch. We went to this incredibly good and inexpensive health food vegetarian-no-M5G Chinese restaurant. The exotic lunch was actually useful in terms of breaking my mind away from the intensity of the morning's session with the Martians. I was beginning to realize that the ET situation was much more complex than I had previously thought. It was no longer a simple situation of ETs flying around Earth. There was real purpose behind their activities, and I knew that at least some of the Martians were in considerable difficulty, and may have been for quite some time.

We wondered how to help the Martians. They had long lived underground, hidden from the harsh conditions of their home-world's environment and from human hostility on Earth. The Martians did not have the resources to better their situation, but neither of us could tell exactly what they needed--just that they needed help soon.

This chapter presents an SRV (scientific remote viewing) session in which my trainer chose the target and I was blind.

Data: Type 4

Target coordinates: 8976/6643

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preliminaries indicated that the target was associated with complex man-made structures.

CB: "OK, I am getting lots of colors. Blues, reds, primary colors mostly, blacks, greens. The textures are paint like. Smooth, polished, shiny. I hear air passing. It is warm here, comfortable. Hmmm. This place feels advanced. It feels like I am new to this place, and I am feeling a bit awkward, like I both shouldn't and should be here at the same time."

MONITOR: "Go to your Stage Three sketch."

CB: "All right, let's see. I have something black and rectangular. Movement on top. Lots of rectangular objects, large. Heck, this feels like a city."

MONITOR: "Put 'city' down as an AOL for now. Move on to stage Four."

CB: "I have multiple structures here. Buildings are all over the place. I am picking up a sense of purpose here, like there is a goal that needs to be reached. I am also getting a sense of excitement on something or somebody....this is weird."

MONITOR: "Don't analyze. Just go through the matrix. Write down your data."

CB: "But it is just that I am picking up that this target has a purpose for me. I never felt that before. I am getting the sense of somebody here, nonphysical."

MONITOR: "OK, let's take a short break for now. Put down the time."

Five minutes later

CB: "I feel like I am supposed to go after the buildings first"

MONITOR: "OK, start with the buildings. Continue through the matrix."

CB: "I am at the buildings. I sense that this place has something to do with a purpose of rescue, like it is a workplace where that type of work goes on. I think I am supposed to go into the buildings."

MONITOR: "Move inside then. Keep going through the matrix. Write down everything."

CB: "Wow! There really are beings here. These are not human beings. You can see right through them. What is this place?"

MONITOR: "Stay in the matrix. Do not analyze. Move. quickly through the columns of data. Keep going."

CB: "Well, I am in this room. There are walls, and there is light coming from the walls. There is white light. I now sense that I may have been here before, but I do not know when.

"Uh-oh, I am being given a welcome. These beings know that I am here. They are looking right at me. I am getting very nervous about this."

MONITOR: "Stay in structure. Continue through the matrix."

CB: "There are doorways. These beings live here. They do work here. There is a table in the room."

MONITOR: "What about outside of the building? What do you see?"

CB: "This is a city. There are streets, lots of streets. It is noisy outside."

MONITOR: "Go back into the room. What work are the beings engaged in?"

CB: "These beings are radiating a sense of excitement, perhaps due to my arrival. It is like they were expecting .me to come. One of them eagerly wants to tell me the answer to the question. It seems that they work with people. My gosh, I'm being told that they work with souls. These are very advanced beings. There is a lot of..

MONITOR: "Keep in structure. What is their work?"


CB There is a lot of light around here. They do not work with physical tools. I am being told that their purpose is to go forward, to move on, in the sense of evolution."


MONITOR: "OK, Let's take a break for a while. Stand up and stretch We can walk outside a bit."


Twenty minutes later


MONITOR: "Find out more about the projects of these beings."


CB "Well, it seems that they have been called angels in the past, but they are not angels. I am being directed toward a hallway and other rooms. There are other beings here. But there are also human etheric or subspace bodies here as well."


MONITOR: "Find out what they are doing with regard to the future."


CB It seems like they are here out of necessity. Hmmm. I am being told that different races or species are going to be involved.

A bad time is coming. There will be a period of great struggle. During this time, technology will grow slowly. People will go back to basics in living, but not primitive."

MONITOR: "Ask about the Martians."


CB: "I am being told that humans will meet with the Martians near their [the Martians'] home-near the New Mexico caverns. The Martians have great fear. We [humans] must help bring them out of the caverns.

These beings are telling me that we have to be both assertive and passive in getting the Martians out. We need to be very clever. This is not a simple task. The Martians do not want to come out They fear the aggression of humans. Apparently, we are not so civilized from the Martian perspective. Yet we need to talk to them, negotiate.

OK, I am being told something very directly. The Martians will being told that we need to make assertive contact ourselves. We have to go after them. We must not stop trying. However, we need to proceed one step at a time. I am being explicitly told that we will not be hurt by the Martians. We are to go to them, not to expect them to come to us."

MONITOR: "How are we to proceed?"


CB "We are to begin by training more people. It seems like training is a big thing. Remote viewing is a part of it, but there is more.',

MONITOR: "That is enough for now. Say 'thank you' on your way

Out Let's end the session. You can take a look at the target now."

He slides a large manila envelope over to my side of the table. I open it and

pull out a piece of paper. "The Midwayers, "it reads.


CB: 'Who the hell are the Midwayers?"


MONITOR: "It's a long story. Why don't we begin with some background? . .

Discussion


Over dinner, my trainer filled me in on the background of his interaction with the Midwayers. In the early years of the Military's remote-viewing investigations, some members of the remote-viewing team wanted to investigate certain nonphysical targets, one of which originated from The Urantia Book, a book of spiritually oriented revelations. The team targeted a group of subspace beings called the The Midwayers." According to The Urantia Book, these beings never assume physical form, although their density is close to human physical density and their bodies are just out of range of 0ur physical abilities to perceive. them. These Midwayers are assigned to Earth to assist humans in matters dealing with human spiritual evolution.

The discovery that the Midwayers actually exist was a shock that reverberated through the consciousness of the military's SRV team for quite a few years. On one hand, the information of their existence was incredibly important--for all sorts of reasons. But on the other hand, it was never clear how one could explain all of this to the generals who were more concerned about warhead counts in missile silo's.

The Midwayers are themselves not extraterrestrials, since they apparently are rather permanently based here on Earth. Yet they are not human, nor do they assume human form in a physical sense. They are subspace beings who live and work in a human environment.

The Midwayers work here, but their command structure does not originate on this planet. Apparently, they are one of a number of subspace groups that are assigned a variety of tasks. The Midwayers work together as a unit, in the way that a military team works together. But they are not militaristic. They work with the subspace aspects of humans to promote human evolutionary potential. In a very real sense, they seem to be "good deed doers," and I do not yet understand in any depth their motivation for helping us. They seem to be working for some goal that is important to themselves and others, including humans.

My trainer introduced me to them in part to give me experience working with telepathically capable subspace beings. He did not know where they would take me, nor did he know what type of information they would give me.

It was quite some time before we could figure out just how we could help encourage the Martians to come out of their caverns. The big trick seemed to be to get them to begin formal talks with humans. The Midwayers left the clear impression that we should be assertive with the Martians, without threatening, and this seemed like a potential contradiction. A number of weeks after my initial training in SRV, it came to me that one way to help initiate a desire among the Martians to begin working directly with humans would be for there to be widespread knowledge of their activities, including the geographical location of their homes in their caverns, in which they live to avoid being discovered by humans. If humans were to find out about them, I reasoned, and if humans were capable of repeatedly locating them and following their movements and activities, they would no longer have reason to hide. Indeed, under such circumstances, the only reasonable choice of action would be to open up negotiations with humans.
But there are two sides to this situation. It is one thing to get the Martians to want to deal with humans. It is quite another thing to get the humans to want to interact with the Martians, and both by my trainer and I feared that the latter problem was going to be the more difficult one to solve. We sensed that we needed help with the human side of the equation. Yet we both felt deeply on an intuitive level that neither one of us would have gotten this far if there was not some hope of a solution In a sense, we felt that there was someone else watching what we did, and that somehow the resources would be made available to us when the time was right. For now, we could only proceed, and to move forward at this time simply meant to collect more data and to proceed with my evolving plan to write a book on the subject.


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Note the Owl Symbol. What better place to hid but in plain site. Its why he uses it, you know whom!


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“Upon suffering beyond suffering: the Red Nation shall rise again and it shall be a blessing for a sick world. A world filled with broken promises, selfishness and separations. A world longing for light again. I see a time of Seven Generations when all the colors of mankind will gather under the Sacred Tree of Life and the whole Earth will become one circle again. In that day, there will be those among the Lakota who will carry knowledge and understanding of unity among all living things and the young white ones will come to those of my people and ask for this wisdom. I salute the light within your eyes where the whole Universe dwells. For when you are at that center within you and I am that place within me, we shall be one." - Crazy Horse, Oglala Sioux Chief (This statement was taken from Crazy Horse as he sat smoking the Sacred Pipe with Sitting Bull for the last time, four days before he was assassinated.) Crazy Horse Dakota Shaman/Seer


How TRUE! how TRUE! .... Spooky :) The Great White Empire is crumbling, even Nature Herself has turnned against. An the sons and daughters of the white men seek the wisdom of the Native Americans to live in harmony with the Earth... how true! Shady..


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Will the U.S. Attack Iran Before September 21? - Are CIA Front Companies Investing $4.5 Billion to Profit from attacking Iran? - Exopolitics Comment 57

There has been much recent speculation that the Bush administration is about to authorize a massive preemptive aerial assault against Iran. According to Alexis Debat, a national security expert, the Pentagon has prepared for airstrikes against 1,200 targets in Iran that would in three days destroy Iran's military infrastructure (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 369001.ece ). Such an assault has been long in preparation and was recently fully completed according to a Navy whistleblower currently serving on a U.S. aircraft carrier. The whistleblower, a female officer, said that "all the targets have been chosen, prioritized, and tasked to specific aircraft, bases, carriers, missile cruisers and so forth" (see: http://rense.com/general78/we.htm ). Asked why she would risk her career to disclose such sensitive information, she replied that most Naval officers are opposed to the strike but are ignored by more senior officials and the Bush administration.

What gives these reports of an imminent attack against Iran greater credibility is an August 2007 purchases of almost 4.5 billion dollars in particular type of stock called 'put options' and 'call options' which are based on a dramatic shift in the U.S. stock market (see: http://tinyurl.com/yw8q4f ). Essentially, a "put option" is where an investor speculates that the market will drop dramatically, say 30-50%, whereas a "call option" is where the investor bets particular stocks will rise just as dramatically. If the stock fails to dramatically shift either up or down by September 21, then the investors stand to lose much from their investment. Such an investment is very unusual and has many market analysts puzzled as to why someone would risk such a large sum unless they had some insider information.

A similar stock market event happened in the weeks before 911 when anonymous investors made great profits when they successfully 'predicted' a dramatic drop in airline and insurances stocks, while also 'predicting' dramatic increases in stocks of corporations producing military armaments (see: http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/stockputs.html ). The investments were so suspicious that they became subject to an insider trading investigation by U.S. Securities Exchange Commission (SEC) but the no one was ever identified or charged. This was despite a determined effort by the SEC to find who was behind the mysterious investments.

The parallels with 'put" and "call option" purchases just before 911 has led to much speculation that the recent $4.5 billion investment is based on insider knowledge of another 911 event before September 21. This has led to speculation that a catastrophic event is about to occur in the U.S. Another explanation for a dramatic shift in the stock market is that China will desert the US currency leading to a collapse in the US dollar. Both explanations would essentially lead to a collapse in some U.S. stocks, while other stocks would rise.

A more plausible explanation for the mysterious billion dollar investments is that hidden investors have insider knowledge that an attack against Iran will occur before September 21. If an attack occurred along the scale described by emerging reports, then the U.S. stock market would collapse as oil prices escalated dramatically. This would spark a global recession, and cause great hardship to many Americans who would find their investments and jobs at risk.

It is very likely that the planned massive aerial attack against Iran's military infrastructure and underground nuclear facilities will use bunker busting nuclear weapons. The question is, what can be done to prevent a preemptive military attack on Iran that may use tactical nuclear weapons to destroy its nuclear facilities?

In 2006, a similar effort to stage a preemptive nuclear strike against Iran was prevented by a revolt of the generals. According to Seymour Hersh:
"In late April, the military leadership, headed by General Pace, achieved a major victory when the White House dropped its insistence that the plan for a bombing campaign include the possible use of a nuclear device to destroy Iran's uranium-enrichment plant at Natanz, nearly two hundred miles south of Tehran. …. "Bush and Cheney were dead serious about the nuclear planning," the former senior intelligence official told me. "And Pace stood up to them. Then the world came back: 'O.K., the nuclear option is politically unacceptable.' " http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2006/0 ... 710fa_fact .
It may be significant that General Peter Pace was not reappointed as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Pace was opposed to a nuclear strike against Iran. Was he not reappointed in order to clear the decks for a more permissive environment within the Joint Chiefs of Staff for an attack that could use tactical nuclear weapons? It appears so given the coincidence of reports of an imminent attack and purchase of $4.5 billion in stock options predicting a collapse in the US stock market.

The current military plans available to the public mention only conventional munitions but it is more likely that some tactical nuclear weapons will be used to take out Iran's deeply buried nuclear facilities. The effect of tactical nuclear weapons to destroy Iran's nuclear facilities would be devastating. Radioactive contamination would disperse widely affecting the health of many. At the same time, Iran's military and much of its civilian infrastructure would be destroyed by conventional munitions. This would restrict Iran's abilities to cope with the health and humanitarian impact of the use of nuclear weapons, and destruction of nuclear facilities.

The question to be asked is "who are the hidden investors with insider knowledge that can gain them billions in short term profits?" This answer will give an important clue to the long term agenda being played out, and the actors involved. In the case of 911, similar investors were able to evade detection from an official investigation by the U.S. Securities Exchange Commission (SEC). The SEC launched an unprecedented investigation that deputized "hundreds, if not thousands, of key players in the private sector" (see: http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/stockputs.html ). According to a former Los Angeles Police Officer, Michael Ruppert, what effectively happens when individuals are deputized is that they are sworn to secrecy on national security grounds. This was a very effective way of keeping secret what was discovered in the SEC investigation. What kind of investor would have the power to subvert an SEC investigation in this manner? The most likely answer is the CIA.

CIA front companies annually supply funds for a black budget used to fund covert national security projects . The black budget has been estimated to range between 1.0 to 1.7 trillion dollars annually which is funneled through the CIA to various military-corporate entities fulfilling such projects (see: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0401/S00151.htm ). The massive size of the black budget is needed to fund a second Manhattan Project - projects related to technologies so advanced that many claim them to be extraterrestrial in origin. Credible whistleblowers have come forward to claim the existence of such technologies and of a high level government cover up of extraterrestrial life (see: www.disclosureproject.com ). They claim that most Congressional officials are not briefed on extraterrestrial related projects due to national security concerns. Consequently, Congress is not aware of or permit appropriations for a second Manhattan Project, funds therefore need to be generated in alternative ways.

The CIA is able to perform this function of secretly raising revenue through the 1949 CIA Act which authorizes the CIA to expend funds "without regard to any provisions of law". The CIA therefore does not have to follow any legal requirements for the funds it procures from various sources, and funnels to military-corporate entities directly responsible for the second Manhattan project.

There needs to be public opposition to a preemptive military attack against Iran, and exposure of the underlying agenda behind it and those intending to profit from it. An informed public is the best safeguard against unwarranted abuses of executive power such as a preemptive attack against Iran that does not have the support of the American people or Congress. In addition to raising public awareness, it will be very helpful for individuals to project thoughts of peace and goodwill to the Middle East, and especially to Iran. The Princeton Project on Global Conscious Project at Princeton University has demonstrated the effect of large numbers of people placing their attention in ways that can impact on global events (see: http://noosphere.princeton.edu/ ). If millions of people could project a positive vision of peace and harmony to Iran and U.S. military forces in the region, then such a preemptive attack may be prevented.

The period leading up to September 21 will be critical for the whole planet as the signs are all too evident that a preemptive attack against Iran, almost certainly involving nuclear weapons, is imminent. The humanitarian cost in terms of possible radioactive fallout, and casualties from the destruction of Iran's military and much of its civilian infrastructure may be catastrophic for the Persian Gulf region. Furthermore, the U.S. and global economy will go into a deep free fall in the event of dramatic increases in oil prices and further instability in the Middle East. Out of this looming tragedy, investors with possible CIA connections and insider knowledge, plan to profit in ways that may be used to secretly fund a second Manhattan Project.



Michael E. Salla, Ph.D
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09/04/07
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Dondep wrote:
I don't know, Dex. "Mag ring" sounds like "magnetic ring" to me, but then no layman has done a sufficient job translating the 'science' of the Lotus. God knows I tried my best at the time I was given the information, but despite several attributes, I still don't have a full understanding.


FYI - No one other than Dan himself can make complete sense of the science he presents. He has even admitted that at times he himself doesn't fully understand it. Kind of leads one to wonder...what's the point? He presents a scientific riddle with no scientific answer to a group of people made up of primarily unscientific minds.

As far as I know, and I could be wrong, he's never made an all out effort to present his theories to the general scientific community as he has here with us. The scientific community, as a whole, don't even recognize his work. The few scientists that have taken notice have done so on thier own and were not approached by DB. So, why would a scientist with ground breaking discoveries not reach out to the scientific community, but instead reach out to the general public - UNLESS the scientific community has already rejected him and his theories or he knows there is no scientific value to his theories or he's trying to sell something??? I don't know, I'm just trying to use common sense to rationalize irrational behavior.

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Dagwood wrote:
Dondep wrote:
I don't know, Dex. "Mag ring" sounds like "magnetic ring" to me, but then no layman has done a sufficient job translating the 'science' of the Lotus. God knows I tried my best at the time I was given the information, but despite several attributes, I still don't have a full understanding.


Hi Dag

Remember the artificial vortex rings the military went looking for around the world?
Well, I remember Dan stated in part after digging them up they were found to be filled with a type of gas. I don't recall what kind. I believe these rings are fundamentally gravitational/magnetic.

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One would expect if your Scientist and made a major discovery you’d publish your data as soon as possible to get recognitions for it and protect your rights.

Burisch doesn’t publish nor wants his name linked to this discovery…. How strange, how illogical. How unprofessional.

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Dondep wrote:
I don't know, Dex. "Mag ring" sounds like "magnetic ring" to me, but then no layman has done a sufficient job translating the 'science' of the Lotus. God knows I tried my best at the time I was given the information, but despite several attributes, I still don't have a full understanding.


FYI - No one other than Dan himself can make complete sense of the science he presents. He has even admitted that at times he himself doesn't fully understand it. Kind of leads one to wonder...what's the point? He presents a scientific riddle with no scientific answer to a group of people made up of primarily unscientific minds.

As far as I know, and I could be wrong, he's never made an all out effort to present his theories to the general scientific community as he has here with us. The scientific community, as a whole, don't even recognize his work. The few scientists that have taken notice have done so on thier own and were not approached by DB. So, why would a scientist with ground breaking discoveries not reach out to the scientific community, but instead reach out to the general public - UNLESS the scientific community has already rejected him and his theories or he knows there is no scientific value to his theories or he's trying to sell something??? I don't know, I'm just trying to use common sense to rationalize irrational behavior.

Peace out.

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Dex wrote:
Dagwood wrote:
Dondep wrote:
I don't know, Dex. "Mag ring" sounds like "magnetic ring" to me, but then no layman has done a sufficient job translating the 'science' of the Lotus. God knows I tried my best at the time I was given the information, but despite several attributes, I still don't have a full understanding.


Hi Dag

Remember the artificial vortex rings the military went looking for around the world?
Well, I remember Dan stated in part after digging them up they were found to be filled with a type of gas. I don't recall what kind. I believe these rings are fundamentally gravitational/magnetic.

Dex


Hey Dex!

Are you refering to the stargates? At one point Dan took me to the location where he claimes to have seen one. I can't remember what he or Deb said about it then. I do remember Deb saying that she didn't know me well enough to talk in depth about it but that the experiance left a positive mark on her. I'm not sure what the gates composition were or at least what DB says they were. I do know that Dan did talk about it.

The whole experiance now seems so surreal. MBM with her berretta, Deb with her walky-talky tuned into people conversing back and forth yet turned down so low I couldn't make out what they were saying, and Dan child-like, looking for rocks. It was a wierd experiance where so much information transpired that I got lost in the communication and can now recall very little.

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Dagwood wrote:
Dex wrote:
Dagwood wrote:
Dondep wrote:
I don't know, Dex. "Mag ring" sounds like "magnetic ring" to me, but then no layman has done a sufficient job translating the 'science' of the Lotus. God knows I tried my best at the time I was given the information, but despite several attributes, I still don't have a full understanding.


Hi Dag

Remember the artificial vortex rings the military went looking for around the world?
Well, I remember Dan stated in part after digging them up they were found to be filled with a type of gas. I don't recall what kind. I believe these rings are fundamentally gravitational/magnetic.

Dex



Hey Dex!

Are you refering to the stargates? At one point Dan took me to the location where he claimes to have seen one. I can't remember what he or Deb said about it then. I do remember Deb saying that she didn't know me well enough to talk in depth about it but that the experiance left a positive mark on her. I'm not sure what the gates composition were or at least what DB says they were. I do know that Dan did talk about it.

The whole experiance now seems so surreal. MBM with her berretta, Deb with her walky-talky tuned into people conversing back and forth yet turned down so low I couldn't make out what they were saying, and Dan child-like, looking for rocks. It was a wierd experiance where so much information transpired that I got lost in the communication and can now recall very little.



Yeah Dag, that's what I was referring too.
I hope you don't feel too bad about your experiences with the group.

(Note:Some of these rings have transported people in my area only several hundred miles away and then stepping back in them used for a return trip. Not thought of as stargates, they were more like inbound teleporting vortexs).

Dex


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