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 The Golden Thread, Volume 5.1 2009/2010 
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From Naomi Wolf's Facebook Page:

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=ho ... 0554487327

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Naomi Wolf I am getting a bad feeling...key personnel in the Obama administration who stood for the rule of law re the detainees, torture, denial of due process and gtmo are leaving under duress...what is coming that they couldn't stomach?


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Looks like the Global Warming crowd is ramping up the Fear Mongering after Climategate.. hehehe

Warning Propaganda Alert & Fear Mongering

Interesting talk they are OPENLY talking about death tolls in the billions now.. If fictional Global Warming doesn't get you. I'm sure David Rockefeller Foundation and Lord Rothschild will! lol


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Warming will 'wipe out billions' - Scotsman.com
Experts fear billions could die as a result of climate change. Picture: Getty Images

http://www.scotsman.com/latestnews/Warm ... 867379.jp#


[Check out that dire pic on their front page! LOL If I'm not mistaken those are nuclear power plant steam stacks. :hmm Not smoke stacks.. and Nuclear is supposed CLEAN Energy.. Well if a reactor pops its top it lays waste to entire 1/2 of countries. :scared but we'll not talk about that..lol We'll use the pic for fright effect sheeple won't know the difference..lol - Shady]

• Experts fear billions could die as result of climate change. Picture: Getty Images
Professor Kevin Anderson, director of the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change, believes only around 10 per cent of the planet's population – around half a billion people – will survive if global temperatures rise by 4C.
Anderson's warning comes just eight days before global leaders meet in Copenhagen for the most crucial talks on climate change reversal since the Rio summit in 1992. Current Met Office projections reveal that the lack of action in the intervening 17 years – in which emissions of climate changing gases such as carbon dioxide have soared – has set the world on a path towards potential 4C rises as early as 2060, and 6C rises by the end of the century.
Anderson, who advises the government on climate change, said the consequences were "terrifying".
"For humanity it's a matter of life or death," he said. "We will not make all human beings extinct as a few people with the right sort of resources may put themselves in the right parts of the world and survive.
"But I think it's extremely unlikely that we wouldn't have mass death at 4C. If you have got a population of nine billion by 2050 and you hit 4C, 5C or 6C, you might have half a billion people surviving."
Efforts at the Copenhagen summit, which starts on 7 December, will focus on action to instead keep temperature rises to no more than 2C – generally accepted as the threshold for dangerous climate change. However, with growing pessimism that a binding agreement on emissions reduction targets will be reached, Anderson warned time was running out.
If ambitious global targets for reductions have not been set by the end of next year, he believes it will be too late to stop emissions rising beyond 2C.
Last week, Britain and France urged the wealthiest nations to set aside $10 billion annually over the next three years to help poorer countries reduce the output of greenhouse gases.
Scotland has set a 42 per cent emissions reduction target for 2020 but Anderson pointed out that even if this was achieved by rich nations throughout the world, it would only give a 60 per cent chance of avoiding a 2C global temperature increase.
Despite pessimism over the past few weeks he was optimistic a legal agreement can still be reached at Copenhagen. He believes leaders are deliberately trying to lower expectations to increase the impact of any success at the summit.
"The worst possible result at Copenhagen is a bad deal where the world leaders have to come home and say it's a good deal when its rubbish," he added.
"That's the real danger – that they will feel under pressure to sign up to anything. That could lock us into something bad for the next ten years."
Stewart Stevenson, Scotland's climate change minister, who will also be attending the summit, said: "Even quite moderate predictions do suggest that we will have vast movements of people around the world particularly on the borders of desert regions and that associated with that will be loss of life."


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Here is simple logic.

IF Global Warming is caused strictly by man made emissions since the start of the industrial age. Then even if we went to ZERO emissions today. The effects of Global Warming will continue to rise another 100 years until those green house gases are leached out of the Environment and into the CO sinks.

100 years. 50 years past the proposed Gloom and Doom Date (point of no return for out of control Global Warming) given by their own Scientists!!

So if magically we went to ZERO emmisions today before sunset, then according to their own data WE'RE DOOMED!... lol

What's the point???

The Point is there is No Global Warming.. and lots and lots and lots of money wil be made forcing mankind to buy their "green techologies, retro fit their homes and businesses, and buy purely so called "green" products.

Its a scam.


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Oh and really wish there was a way I could show you this. But maybe you'll see it in effect during you local weather reports.

The past two weeks Central has been experiencing 45-55 F degree weather. I've been paying attention because of thanks giving and needed to get some last minute yard work in.

During these two weeks the Weatherpersons made it a point ot give our normal high for this time of year. Which they repeatedly stated 38 degrees F. They were still giving that Friday night (Black Friday).

Now as Sunday and today Monday Morning.. with the temps having dropped down into 40s - 38s F.. Suddenly our Average High for this time of year has changed to guess what???? 54 F degrees.

They are literally changing the supposed "Average High" week to week to make it appear that weather is haywire!!


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VACCINE WARNING - PANDEMIC WARNING
by Ken Welch in Houston
November 5, 2009

After working with Reversed Speech on government officials for more than ten years I can tell you that there is indeed a long-running plan to dissolve the Federal government and remake the world into what you might call a global corporate feudalism. This plan is coming to its climax right now. Although the final moves have been postponed several times, all indications are that there can be no more delays, and a global killer pandemic is the first step in that plan.

You are getting a lot of scare stories from the media (and the Pentagon’s billion dollar Internet propaganda machine) about the Swine Flu. But the swine flu is a joke, and almost everyone knows it. The real pandemic is still seven to ten weeks away.

We’ve recently learned the secret behind the Swine Flu Vaccine that is being pushed so strongly on the public. While the vaccine may make you sick, its real purpose is to greatly increase the fast-kill mechanism of the pandemic still to come. Worse yet, the vaccine is being used to target specific groups of people who are simply not welcome in our brave new world.

In the USA these include Blacks, American Indians, and Baby Boomers.
Background
I first picked up on this ten years ago. I was intensely interested in Chemtrails, those bizarre streaks in the sky that first appeared in the week following Pearl Harbor Day, 1998. They were linked to a banned pesticide, Ethylene Dibromide, right off the bat. Most of the later stories you’ve read about chemtrails have been designed to draw you away from this initial identification. Throughout 1999 I used RS to eavesdrop on Washington. I got what I wanted, but it seemed of no value. I learned that the chemtrail operation was part of a billion dollar CIA-run program called Starwars. No, it has nothing to do with space. It’s named for the first Starwars film which, if you’ll think back, featured a monstrous weapon aimed at an entire planet.

I also found that the Starwars program had a second component. This involved CREATING a disease, and that something about this process involved BIRDS. Unfortunately, this information made no sense. Remember, this was the time of Y2K. A lot of things didn't’t make sense then. In this case, how would dosing people with the world’s nastiest pesticide be related to a killer influenza, and what was the disease to be used for? And why?

That year was also odd because a propaganda campaign designed to convince everyone that the world was overpopulated kicked into high gear. You still run across it today, but it was intense when it first started. The result is that most Americans believe that they are simply rubbing shoulders with too many people. Excepting four or five of our largest cities, the reality is that you need only drive for 20 minutes beyond the edge of your town, and you will see nothing but nearly empty land. Overpopulation is a myth designed to make you feel better in a post-pandemic world.

I watched that year as government money financed three different expeditions to find 1918 burial sites where frozen samples of killer virus might be found and retrieved. I also learned that, although there are good indications this virus was introduced in injections given to Europe-bound U.S. troops at Ft. Riley, Kansas, the genetic origins of what was soon called Spanish Flu suggest that it’s genetic source involved birds – either in the wild or in a vaccine laboratory.

It wasn't until 2004 that I understood why the "illuminati" were interested in creating a killer pandemic. That was the year I ran across an article in a magazine devoted to real estate that talked about the massive shift of wealth that would be happening in the future. The author was writing about the retirement of the Baby Boomers. Later I would learn that this would be the greatest financial threat our western governments have ever faced.

The hunt for the 1918 virus was public knowledge, as was the failure to find any living samples. Also made public was the commitment on the part of CDC and others to find some other way to recreate the virus since the search for the original had failed. It wasn’t too much later that one of those attempts scared the medical community half to death. A Chinese laboratory, working under contract to recreate the virus by working backward from current bird flu allowed their creation to escape. Rather than give this virus a proper scientific designation, it’s genetic origin was hidden by calling it SARS, Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome.

Anyone who knew the symptoms of the 1918 pandemic would have recognized SARS immediately as a virtual clone of the 1918 virus. In fact, virtually everything we know about how to protect people from pandemic influenza (which is much more than the government or media will tell you) was learned in the SARS outbreak. But SARS had a significant flaw. It was not seriously contagious until after the victim was already showing signs of illness. Intercepting people with symptoms stopped it from spreading. The real pandemic influenza is contagious before symptoms appear, which is why it will spread like wildfire once it is released on the public. But it will kill in exactly the same way.

As reported in normal news channels, the 1918 killer flu was in fact rebuilt from scratch using the latest gene technology, made to match viral DNA that was brought back from the original expeditions. In a civilized world this would be a capital offense. But that is a world that mankind has yet to create.

In the meantime, governments have spent hundreds of billions of dollars preparing for the moment that the “Bird Flu” is finally released. Do you think they would do this based on a rumor or perhaps a psychic reading? All that money has been spent in preparing for the “continuity” of government, the control of civilian populations, and the methods for dealing with millions of dead or dying civilians in the most efficient and cost effective manner. How much did they spend on protecting or saving you? Not a dime. The public is still being told that everything will be fine if they just make sure their kids wash their hands.

Now, you may be wondering how the various governments expect their countries to keep functioning in the aftermath of an engineered pandemic that could take out a huge percentage of the workforce. Actually that problem has been solved. If you will think back to 1999, you'll realize that was the time that Washington began it's open-door policy for illegal aliens. Likewise for Europe, and in both cases entirely against the wishes of their citizens. So we now have an extra 20-25 million "illegals," all of whom have a lifetime of experience in societies where you don't fight city hall. Although six or eight million may lose their lives in the Pandemic, there will be plenty left over to answer the need for labor. They will be there to take the jobs, buy the empty houses and, in return for legalization, pay the taxes. No problemo, amigo!

The REAL Pandemic Is On It's Way
Our Project (and this website) was created three years ago to track and expose repeated attempts to use a false-flag nuclear weapon to trigger the destruction of Iran and the theft of it’s vast oil reserves. This plan is code-named GAMBIT, and the latest version is running right now. Gambit has failed many times, much to the outrage of the Oil Cartel that conceived it. Each time it has failed, the date for the killer pandemic has had to be postponed as well. You can see an actual example in the report on this page:

http://www.ken-welch.com/Reports/ArmageddonFails.html

Just scroll down to the first reversed-speech segment, which features George Bush absolutely furious because a 2007 attempt to set off a nuke in southeast Texas has failed. Note that he says the failure will require another billion dollars for Starwars, the chemtrail/pandemic project that now must wait another year before it can be concluded.

The current version of Gambit involves a nuclear tipped missile aimed at some sparsely populated area in Israel. Although we don’t know the date, we do know that the White House and Downing Street have been told repeatedly that this is Gambit’s last chance. It cannot be recycled and tried again.

Why have Obama, Gordon Brown and others been told that this is the last chance for Gambit? Because the “Bird Flu” Pandemic simply cannot be postponed for another year. Once it begins, large scale military operations will become impossible, and the U.S. will need it’s military here at home, perhaps for a very long time. Ready to go at least three years ago, the pandemic has been postponed each time a previous Gambit attempt failed. Everyone is being told that this is not going to happen this year.

Postponements have been a nuisance for our Illuminati masters, because each time has meant another billion dollars for the chemtrail program in North America, and a similar amount in Europe. Chemtrails and the Pandemic are two parts of the same operation. We didn't understand why until we learned that pesticide poisoning distorts hormonal functions, and reduces adrenal availability. The invisible part of chemtrails, the pesticide Ethylene Dibromide that falls to earth immediately and blows through your neighborhood, is reducing your ability to fight off the Cytokine Storm, the fast-kill mechanism of the recently recreated 1918 virus.

As I’ve told our newsletter readers many times, the Pandemic has nothing to do with imaginary overpopulation, Satanic goals, or any other strangeness. It’s strictly about money. All the welfare states, including Russia, are going broke. In the U.S. retiring Baby Boomers are about to suck away the government’s last penny. Unless something is done, the Illuminati-run North American Union designed to replace the current circuses in Washington and Ottawa will quickly bleed to death if it must pick up the same welfare burden. Socialism has only one answer for problems like this: mass murder. And it simply can’t be put off any longer.

There is a word we are finding quite often now in reversed speech from Washington and London: DECEMBER. It’s always there, like the uninvited guest lurking in the corner of the room. When we are following current plans as they appear in the reversed speech, nothing seems to go past the next six weeks or so, and the thoughts trail off as the word DECEMBER appears again. Like a dark cloud on the horizon. It seems to be something so terrible that no one wants to think about it directly. All my experience with reversed speech, and ten years of tracking the chemtrail/pandemic conspiracy, tells me that middle or late December is the current target for the release of the recreated 1918 virus.

You will be told that swine flu has made it into bird populations and magically mutated to create a deadly, rapidly spreading form of Bird Flu. There will be no truth to this at all. The virus they will release is the recreated 1918 virus, already in many bio labs, and perhaps boosted a bit from the original 1918 variety in terms of lethality. You are being given a psychological practice run for this scenario right now, with scary but exaggerated stories from Ukraine.

The world will be told that there are no vaccines that can touch it. It will spread slowly at first, but by mid January it will be sweeping the globe. Make no mistake. This is the one I’ve been warning about, and you will literally see bodies on the sidewalk if the records from 1918 are to be believed.

Swine Flu Vaccine A Deadly Trap
In comic contrast, the swine flu is a joke, and at least half the world knows it. Even its official designation is a joke. The original 1918 virus is H1N1. This new bug, which does not appear to be natural in any way, would have some other number if the murderous clowns at the CDC were even remotely honest. A lot of very sharp people have been looking at the swine flu and swine flu vaccine program, but they don’t know the larger picture.

The puzzle they cannot solve is why western governments are so adamant about getting people to actually take the shots. Most of us understand that these big vaccine campaigns are simply money-making programs for Big Pharma, third in the pantheon of corporate players that own and operate virtually all western governments. But does it make sense this time? After all, these vaccines are already paid for. They could be dumped in a landfill and the manufacturers wouldn’t care at all.

It’s virtually impossible that anyone could actually benefit from the swine flu vaccine, especially with the nasty components included in the batches for the general public. (Big scandal in Europe now about VIP’s getting clean batches instead.) So why does “Obama” want you injected?

Two years ago, when anti-flu products were designated for different age groups (workers, elderly, young people) the implications were clear. Remember this is a welfare-driven emergency.

The secret purpose of the swine flu vaccine is not obvious until you fully understand what the vaccine does. And you must combine that information with the understanding that the real Pandemic is just around the corner.

I don’t want to seem omniscient here, so I’ll have to confess the real secret of the swine flu vaccine just came across my desk on Wednesday. Someone sent me a couple paragraphs attributed to Dr. Russell Blaylock, the MD that produces the Blaylock Wellness Report, a subscription newsletter. Here’s the paragraph that says it all:
No one should take the swine flu vaccine – it is one of the most dangerous vaccines ever devised. It contains an immune adjuvant called squalene MF-59 which has been shown to cause severe autoimmune disorders such as MS, rheumatoid arthritis and Lupus. This is the vaccine adjuvant that is strongly linked to the Gulf War syndrome, which killed over 10,000 soldiers and caused a 200% increase in the fatal disease ALS (Lou Gehreg disease). This [swine flu] virus kills by causing a cytokine storm, which means that it causes the body's immune system to overreact and that is why it is killing young people and is a mild disease in the elderly. (The elderly have weakened immune systems.) This vaccine is a very powerful immune stimulator and carries the real possibility of making the lethality of the virus much greater.


What Dr. Blaylock is saying, is that the vaccine will greatly boost the Cytokine Storm, increasing the chance that people will die from the silly swine flu virus before the vaccine can kill it off. He doesn't realize that a disease with twenty times the Cytokine effect is just around the corner.

In our newsletters I’ve been talking about the Cytokine Storm for almost three years. It is the quick-kill factor in the original 1918 virus that killed several hundred million people around the globe. In simple terms it is a form of rapid inflammation, similar to an allergic reaction to the toxins produced by the virus as it multiplies in your gut. The inflammation takes place in the lungs, and if it is too strong, or lasts too long, it will kill you. Often within a single day. A popular saying in 1918 and 1919 was, "Healthy in the morning, dead by nightfall."

Populations of all western nations practicing socialized welfare systems have already had their ability to shut down the Cytokine Storm greatly impaired by six to ten years of chemtrail spraying. Now, if the part of your immune system that produces the Cytokine Storm is put on hyperdrive by the swine flu shot, when the real H1N1 virus comes along in December or January, your chances of survival are going to be very poor.

No wonder Homeland Security has spent thousands of man-hours trying to locate sites for mass burials! Those folks are not stupid, and they know what is coming. You, on the other hand, are assumed to be both stupid and powerless.

LINKS: Infowars Global Research Socioecohistory Blog.

Who Is Being Targeted For Death?
I’ve told you all along the Baby Boomers are the primary target. The financial disaster caused by their retirement has been known for twenty years or more via simple arithmetic. But the rest of the story is even uglier.

As you know, the big news on the vaccine front is that shipments have been delayed and, although every state has received some, supplies are limited. This has been beautifully orchestrated to produce a specific result. Limited supply means that specific groups can be selectively targeted for death.

Last week a man I know personally visited his doctor. This man is a good Pharma slave – he visits an MD regularly and does whatever he is told. He went for a quick check-up and his seasonal flu shot (yuck!), which he got with no problem. Naturally, he also asked about getting a swine flu shot. He was told the same thing that others around the country were being told.

Because of “limited availability” the only people who could get swine flu shots at that time, whether paid or for free, were Blacks and American Indians.

I checked around and found that other people had been told the same thing.

Did I tell you this is a Welfare-driven emergency? Although grossly unfair, it appears that our masters have determined that Blacks and Indians are the “welfare classes” in our society, and their numbers must be drastically reduced.

Canada is marching to the same drummer. Benevolent Canadian functionaries have made sure to send the first batches of swine flu vaccine, along with unusually generous supplies of body bags to Canada’s Indian nations. Just off the top of my head, I'd say that Canada is expecting the vaccine to produce something other than the lifesaving effect being advertised! Do you remember the stories of blankets laden with Smallpox given to Indian tribes in the 1800s? Yes, it's same thing all over again. Sure it’s genocide, but in the chaos to come you are not supposed to notice.

Just in case you do notice a post-pandemic statistical strangeness, the Pentagon’s domestic propaganda teams are already working on it. The same people responsible for about 80 per cent of the goofiness you see on the web have begun recirculating old stories about diseases created to attack specific ethnic groups. At least two e-mails on this topic specifically using the term “genocide” have crossed my desk this week.

This is a typical tactic. If you should discover later that deaths among the Indian Nations or African Americans are disproportionately high, then you have a wild goose story already prepared to lead you away from the fact that these people were selected for death in their own doctor’s office.

Growing Resistance Not What You Think
There is a growing sense of resistance in this country. We certainly see it, loud and clear, in regard to the swine flu vaccine program. Guess what? I’ve tracked about a third of the anti-vaccine material back to known Pentagon propaganda mills.

Why would they do this? Two reasons. They are very strong right now on fostering disgust and rebellion against the Obama administration. They apparently feel this will make their job much easier down the road, when it is time to dissolve the central government in Washington, and “white hat” generals help to put in the new one. They also want to make sure there is enough anti-vaccine hysteria on the Internet that fact-based warnings like this one, or Dr. Blaylock's simply can't be heard.

However, just to show how difficult it must be inside what Orwell would have called the Ministry Of Truth, other offices inside this massive operation must churn out Swine Flu hysteria pieces at the same time. Naturally, this is putting the gullible in a serious dilemma: Get the shot that allegedly will kill me tomorrow, or risk the flu which might might kill me next week. To get the flavor of all this, check out this popular propaganda outlet to see what I mean. You'll see why this article will never be referenced there.

We've built up a good store of remedies and other Pandemic information in our private archives; stuff that no one else has. Due to the nearness of the Starwars "Death Star" I'm working as fast as I can to get all that material out and into public view. Save your spare cash and skip the Christmas presents, because you will be wanting to use that money to protect yourself and your family.

Good luck to us all,

KEN WELCH
Houston




http://www.ken-welch.com/Commentary/Pandemic1.html




Was sent the link to this story yesterday, thought this interesting so wanted to put it out there fyi.



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Hi, DonDep –

Your comments on the process of disclosure are, as always, well-considered and most welcome.

I am deeply grateful for your sweet sanity on so many levels dealing with these complex and frequently contentious issues. Your patience in commenting is infinite and your analyses always thought-provoking – as are the contributions of all the intelligent, thoughtful people here on the GT.

I hesitate, sometimes, to offer my own viewpoint on these fascinating discussions since I find myself in agreement with so much of what is written by other members here that my own contribution would be merely parsing details of little significance to the overall thought.

But I find it useful, sometimes, to ‘upend’ an idea or concept, shake it around a bit, and see what might fall loose onto the table. In this case, your question:

DonDep wrote:
... why do none of these people offer to swear out an affidavit as to their first-hand claims?


seems like one of those “loose parts” that might lead to some further perspective on the disclosure/’insider’ issues here.

From my perspective – not being an insider and possessing no specific knowledge beyond my own experience – I see a certain amount of ‘disinfo’ or factually incorrect material as utterly necessary for the safety of any sworn operative who becomes a whistleblower, making it impossible to swear to anything as an honest person. My thinking is this: Anyone who is telling the truth “out of school” has been heavily indoctrinated – by both fear and by playing on their honor and loyalty – to maintain their sworn oath of secrecy in order to keep their Above Top Secret etc classification (and their lives, pensions and safety of their loved ones....) The sword dangled over them is a false (in my view) legal one that their deaths or punishments would be “perfectly legal” consequences of violating an oath to which they are pressured to believe they gave informed consent.

At the same time, I sense that the Majestic group (of whatever current description) could be under some treaty-related legal pressure of their own from the ET’s to promote “some kind” of time-related disclosure – which they are doing under duress and at a legal minimum to satisfy certain needs of this type - also under the Talmudic delusion that observing “the letter of the law” will simultaneously satisfy human and higher justice. (In this, I take refuge in the dharma.)

So whistleblowers – and the keepers who send them out on their errands to the public – are simultaneously pushed and pulled, attempting to walk a narrow “legal” distinction of disclosing secrets and “I didn’t, because what I said was factually false” legal defense. Hence the confused and confounding dates, times, places, numbers, names etc etc etc ad nauseum that make interpreting anything at all as factual truth so challenging. The whistleblower themself is very probably unaware of the degree of untruth contained in their disclosure because they have been fed same from above.

It’s also a very old black ops trick to distribute accurate factual information to those with a need-to-know but however to “salt” each briefing document or personal briefing with a different falsity as a kind of “tracking control” – the marked money. So when that specific falsity shows up in someone else’s possession, the keepers will know with certainty who leaked it.

In that light, I try to confine my own beliefs – or semi-certainties – to two primary levels:

1) the testimony of what an individual has personally witnessed or experienced, no matter how bizarre it may seem at first blush. This does not mean I will accept all they say (see above) if it has no resonance to my own experience(s), merely that I will mentally file the material away as “maybe” until someone else – or three – cites similar experiences and my own understanding catches up with them. In this category are many eyewitnesses, UFO sightings, abductions, meetings with remarkable beings, laboratory workers, enlisted military in the line of duty etc.

2) A kind of meta-analysis of all other data, reports, stories, rumors, etc that broadly accepts only that which is reported by many, many primary sources, and discounts the rest. In this I accept: the presence of deep underground facilities (regardless of location or population), the reality of ET contact and technology (regardless of specific science or ET description) and the probability of catastrophic earth changes (without regard to specific causes or timing).

So that leaves me with very little of a ‘factual’ nature, true. But what remains is still of major importance, world-changing and worthy of the most careful attention.

For the rest, I am content to entertain myself by joining UJ in watching the parade pass by. :popcorn

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Dondep wrote:
Crackajack wrote:
When these big dramatic sagas hit the ufer world, why do they only hit one at a time with consistently spaced intervals? Never seem to get two breaking at the same time for some reason. I wonder if it's about ensuring the concentration of the following in this murky field?

As usual time will tell.


I hadn't reflected on that before, Cracka, but it stands to reason when analyzing these things. Good point.

One question I've often asked UJ about when he brings this up in off-thread conversation, as well as Bill Ryan, is why do none of these people offer to swear out an affidavit as to their first-hand claims? In the case of Burisch, the Request To Admit is a Canadian legal document that holds not only the same value as sworn testimony, it does so in a legal setting - though unfortunately is only allowed as evidence in the particular court case in which it is requested (a nice way to squeeze it into the 'public record' without having to endure the rigors of it being challenged when the presiding judge announces in open court that no testimony obtained prior to the date of the original tribunal hearing would be allowed. Oh what twisted minds those cabalistic cover-up artists have....).

So why don't these 'insiders' and 'sources' go on record with sworn affidavits? And when will the slack-jawed ufer audience start demanding that as a minimum gesture of sincerity, before expending so much thought-time and research chasing down these ephemeral dead-ends?

Because they are all distractions.



I do love a parade!!!!

Again, for those 'newer' readers and posters here, Don and I have had a very friendly and open debate over the 'importance' or 'sugnificance' of the DB affidavit. I contend it is much like the line in the movie Tommy Boy...."if you want to to take a dump in a box and stamp it 'garanteed', I can do that; I've got the time" (or something to that effect). Basically meaning that what ever your garanteeing is only as good as what your expecting to get out of it.

DB's Affidavit only proves one thing....it's pointless. With all due respect Don, DB know's that regaurdless of the content, it would take an act of God, or at the least a MAJOR Congressional hearing - the like of which hasn't been seen since Al Capone - for it to be proven or disproven to any effect and therefore, zero risk to him personaly. He's even told this to me personally. He said, and I quote, "I wish someone would contest it, but I know it's never going to happen. I'll sign a hundred affidavits, but it won't make any difference."

The point is, it has as much relevance as MBM's degree. Hell, if you want me to sign a peice of paper that says a tree makes no noise in the woods when it falls, if no person, machine, or recording device is around to hear it...I will! Under penalty of purgary, I would sign it...because no one can disprove me but more importantly, I know no one would WANT to disprove me.

For all purposes, the affidavit is a mute point. No one has contested it, no one will contest it, and there it will remain, as Don would have us believe, an article of proof, but as I believe, one more tool that DB has used to decieve us all. Thats not to say that what is said in the affidavit is false, merely the act of signing it should suggest that EVERYTHING he's said before and since should be taken for truth, since he once signed a paper saying so. And it doesn't help the cause when Don keeps throwing it around as a measure of truth to the saga. Also, in that same line of reasoning it can be said that not EVERYTHING DB said are lies. And in all sincerety, I conciede that Don's notion that DB is the ONLY whistleblower willing to do such a thing does have some relevance, even though minute. Hell, did Lazar subject himself to a polygraph test? That has more baring on this than a peice of paper thats never been contested.

IMHO, you have to go to the begining of the Saga to find the truth. The basics are real. (DB worked at Area 51, he met an EBE, etc.) Everything since "the great devide", is conjecture and it too mixed with fantasy to be considered realistic and truthful. At best, it would have to be catagorized as 'Possible'...Plausable,...Probible,...Hell no! To say otherwise would be to place yourself in direct critisizum and jepordize your own credability as a 'serious' researcher. Even Don hasn't done that, he's careful to premis everything he says with one of the three P's.

On another note - Crackajack, I respect your observation and can understand your reasoning. However, if one is connected to the endless string of announcements and discoveries one after another, you would see that they are not 'timed'. They are not 'one at a time' as you suggest either. They are multiple and frequent. All one has to do is follow Shady's postings here to realize that. Aside from that, there are multiple avenues of discovery if one were so inclined to go and search them out. Personally, I've had to stop all the email notifications as my email account was filling up too fast, and there simply wasn't enough time in the day to get through them all. Perhaps thats why I took the sebaticle I did. In order to truely research this, one must have three things...plenty of time, a very open mind, and a VERY understanding wife. I have only two of the three. I just don't have the time.

As for MAJOR announcements? I'm still waiting for ONE real, solid, undeniablely truthful announcement of any kind, related to our search for truth in all this.

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In that light, I try to confine my own beliefs – or semi-certainties – to two primary levels:

1) the testimony of what an individual has personally witnessed or experienced, no matter how bizarre it may seem at first blush. This does not mean I will accept all they say (see above) if it has no resonance to my own experience(s), merely that I will mentally file the material away as “maybe” until someone else – or three – cites similar experiences and my own understanding catches up with them. In this category are many eyewitnesses, UFO sightings, abductions, meetings with remarkable beings, laboratory workers, enlisted military in the line of duty etc.

2) A kind of meta-analysis of all other data, reports, stories, rumors, etc that broadly accepts only that which is reported by many, many primary sources, and discounts the rest. In this I accept: the presence of deep underground facilities (regardless of location or population), the reality of ET contact and technology (regardless of specific science or ET description) and the probability of catastrophic earth changes (without regard to specific causes or timing).

So that leaves me with very little of a ‘factual’ nature, true. But what remains is still of major importance, world-changing and worthy of the most careful attention.

For the rest, I am content to entertain myself by joining UJ in watching the parade pass by. :popcorn

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Selene,

I appreciate your input and enjoyed reading this post. Another thing Don and I have debated, strangly enough, is how he/I/we/all-of-us determine the truth of the information we get/have. Don could discribe this method better than I, but we like to break it down to three groups:

1. Possible
2. Plausable
3. Probible

Although, Don and I disagree a lot on how we come to those three basic conclusions, we both agree that those catagories best discribe our interpetation of the information shared or given to him/I/we/all-of-us.

Either way, please continue to post and share in discussion. All input is greatly appreciated here, unlike some forums that attempt to use the name.

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I haven't delved much into the so called Source A stuff with the script writers (Pickerings). Looks like a draining exercise but what I can see is a lot of familiar names and associations (Paola Harris, Grant Cameron, Ed Komarek, Salla, Project Cram-a-lot etc).

Here's an earlier interview with them from 2007 about the moon landing. Their host is, well, a little behind on some issues it would appear.


I notice UJ's interactions with 'Temporal' (Clay Pickering) over at OMF, where they appear to be the latest ufer rock stars. I'm not sure who is entertaining whom there UJ.

OMF is/was also the playground of the 'birds' and the original host of the Serpo disaster and the Caret Drone saga. Mur, I know you also spent many hours in this saga with the outcome being the usual but expected :headbang I see they are still accusing you of being present in the discussion.

Clay didn't do himself any favors with the following quote IMHO.

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Nov 27, 2009, 5:18am, ezbuggy wrote:


Thankyou for clearing that up Mr.Temp. I'd imagine that you must have been privy to other documents and or photos during your friendship with the source. I'm not asking you to post them, but I am asking if you could describe them in some way. I'm looking for a reason not to be doubtful of the sources claims. I am looking for a reason that the source is not the Navy version of Rick Doty. There are similarities don't you think?


Fair comment, Ezbuggy,

Here's how I'll answer it.

This comes from someone who is above the fray in this research. This person is gold to the UFO community.

Bill Colby (The late CIA Director) once told a trusted friend about Rick Doty. I will have to paraphrase as best as possible with what this person told my brother and I face to face:

"Believe what Doty tells you, he knows." ( CJ: Yes the old chestnut of someone told someone. I wonder if this can be proven?)

Straight up guys! Now we have to find the signal from the noise with Doty.


When these big dramatic sagas hit the ufer world, why do they only hit one at a time with consistently spaced intervals? Never seem to get two breaking at the same time for some reason. I wonder if it's about ensuring the concentration of the following in this murky field?

As usual time will tell.


I would love for the source A saga to be true. It just does not smell right to me


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"Security Cam" filmed the biggest disc from KRASNE BRESNO 2009 by terreaterre13

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This is interesting

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So that leaves me with very little of a ‘factual’ nature, true. But what remains is still of major importance, world-changing and worthy of the most careful attention.

I agree with all you said Selene. Thank you. Beautiful post. :agree

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Climate change: Gulf stream collapse could be like a disaster movie | Environment | The Observer

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The next Ice Age could take only weeks to engulf Britain. Scientists say the last great disruption to the Gulf Stream 12,800 years ago took only a couple of months to trigger a massive plunge in temperatures across Europe.

"It was as if Europe had been shifted 20 degrees north and Ireland moved to Svalbard," said Bill Patterson of Saskatchewan University.

In the Hollywood blockbuster The Day After Tomorrow, an Ice Age was set off in a single day when the Gulf Stream was disrupted. "That is silly," said Patterson. "It couldn't happen that quickly. However, previous estimates that it would take decades to switch off the Gulf Stream are not backed by our work. It could happen in a couple of months."

The Gulf Stream carries tropical heat from the Caribbean to northern Europe but is already being disrupted by meltwater pouring from the Arctic as global warming intensifies. One day it may switch off completely, say scientists.

Such an event occurred 12,800 years ago when a vast lake – created from melting glaciers at the end of last Ice Age – overflowed and poured into the north Atlantic, blocking the Gulf Stream. Europe froze – almost instantly, said Patterson.

His team analysed mud samples from Lough Monreagh in Ireland and discovered layers of white sediment made up of calcite crystals from algae. "Then abruptly the sediment turned black. This stuff contained no biological material." In other words, all life in the lake had been extinguished in less than three months. "It was very sudden," added Patterson, "and it could happen again."
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Found it on Twitter posted in UFO channel there.


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Shady Groves wrote:
"Security Cam" filmed the biggest disc from KRASNE BRESNO 2009 by terreaterre13

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvo9ANvzDK0




This is interesting

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Interesting isn't it? A case of life imitating Art or Art imitating Real life. ;)

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The powerful clay work shows Mrs Obama in the style of an African Queen, wearing large hooped earrings and an “afro pick” comb in her Egyptian-influenced hairstyle.

An American flag is tattooed across her naked chest and the comb is decorated with pearls, the traditional garb of a First Lady, and an American Eagle.

The work, by controversial sculptor Daniel Edwards, is clearly a nod to both Mrs Obamas ethnic roots and her position at the heart of American culture and politics.

As her husband, Barack Obama, battles to win the next US presidential elections, she has come under intense media spotlight, and has been likened to former First Lady Jackie Kennedy.

However, Edwards said: “The goal is to create a look for Michelle Obama that eliminates excessive comparisons to Jackie Kennedy.”

The bust, entitled “Michelle Obamas Makeover for America” goes on display at the Leo Kesting Gallery in New York on October 1.

A gallery spokesman said: “Look out Oprah, a new Lady Os in charge. Michelle Obama inspires a fashion template change that many First Ladies of the 21st Century may follow, as we witness minorities in this country becoming the majority.”

The sculpture forms part of the Inspire America series by Edwards, which includes the%

Bold sculpture of Michelle Obama with American flag across her bare chest – Telegraph


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Alien intelligences may be controlling the United States government at its highest, most secret level.

If, in fact, the top-secret federal government entity in charge of controlling information about the extraterrestrial reality is itself being controlled by aliens, that would help explain why the government is reluctant to release any data related to the phenomenon.

U.S. citizens began reporting Unidentified Flying Objects to federal, state and local authorities in 1947, but ever since the beings piloting these strange flying machines have done a stellar job of keeping their operation secret. Alien abduction accounts began to surface in the 1960s, but again, the extraterrestrial entities responsible have been able to keep irrefutable proof of the stories' reality from the general public.

For years, some UFOlogists speculated that certain U.S. government officials deliberately withheld information from the public, and for various reasons.

Noted ufologist Stanton Friedman stated during a 2002 interview that the technology behind flying saucers is perhaps what is most important to governments. "The first country to duplicate the ability of flying saucers to move at very high speed and very slowly, to make right angle turns at very high speed, to move up and down vertically, usually with little noise or exhaust or visible external engines, will rule the planet," Friedman said.

Friedman said another reason why the government would withhold information about UFOs from the public is because of a concern that the "other guy," meaning a different government, would figure out how flying saucers operate before it does.

"The third problem for governments is political," Friedman said. "Church attendance would increase as would mental hospital admissions. The stock market would go down. The biggest reactions ... would be a push from the younger generation ... for a new view of ourselves as earthlings instead of as Americans, Canadians, Peruvians, Chinese, etc ... (I know) of no government that wants its citizens to owe their primary allegiance to the planet instead of that government."

The fourth reason governments would withhold information about flying saucers, Friedman said, is because "certain Christian fundamentalists have strongly expressed the view that mankind represents the only intelligent beings in the universe and that the flying saucer stuff is the work of the Devil."

"They (fundamentalists) would be up the creek without a religious paddle should an announcement be made," he said.

Friedman said the fifth reason to keep the extraterrestrial reality covered up is economic chaos would be the result of full disclosure.

"We earthlings don't seem to be very good at large-scale economic transitions," he said.

But what if Friedman is wrong? What if politics, a potential panic, a technology race, possible economic disasters, and the unknowns disclosure would have on Christian fundamentalists have nothing to do with the reason to keep the extraterrestrial reality a secret? What if aliens have infiltrated the U.S. government and other world governments and are pulling political strings from some unseen spacecraft outside of the Earth's orbit or buried deep in some secret base under the sea?

Comment: Or how about if they are inter-dimensional?

The theory is not as farfetched as it sounds when one considers that the beings visiting our planet could be thousands if not millions of years more technically advanced than human beings. If these beings have the ability to abduct people in the light of day, do things to them in their spaceships, erase their memories and then set them back on their paths as if nothing at all happened, then what would stop them from doing something similar to federal government officials? Perhaps disclosure of the extraterrestrial phenomenon would have occurred by now if humans rather than aliens were the ones in charge of releasing the data?

A decision could have been made behind closed doors years ago that information related to extraterrestrials is to be given to the President of the United States only on a "need to know" basis. Many ufologists believe there is a secret agency within the federal power structure that specifically deals with the UFO phenomenon. If that is true, then what if alien beings have somehow infiltrated this group - perhaps unknowingly to the members - and now have it under their control?

When one considers all of the information out there now on UFOs and extraterrestrial visitors in books, magazines, and television programs, the notion of our government being controlled at least partially by otherworldly creatures sounds less and less silly. Polls indicate that most Americans believe UFOs are real and that the government is involved in a massive cover-up. With that in mind, it makes no logical sense to continue the cover-up. Why not put everything on the table to confirm what everybody already believes?

The answer could have more to do with what ET wants than what anybody working for the federal government wants.

Comment: This may not be as far-fetched as it seems to some people. This author may be starting to see things as they are, but even he may be surprised with what is really happening. For more, see Richard Dolan's video and read Laura Knight-Jadczyk's High Strangeness.

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Speaking of "The Day Afer Tommorrow" and "Global Warming"

Keep in mind these pics were taken in 1911 after 2 centuries of ALL houses in America and Europe burning coal, All Industry burning coal.

During the Victorian Era in England (for an example) with all coal burning going on. British papers of the time discribed a permentent gray haze hanging over London for example from all the coal burning going on.

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The Southern Ocean is the world's most important feeding ground for whales

Sea levels are likely to rise by about 1.4m (4ft 6in) globally by 2100 as polar ice melts, according to a major review of climate change in Antarctica.

Conducted by the Scientific Committee on Antarctic Research (SCAR), it says that warming seas are accelerating melting in the west of the continent.

Ozone loss has cooled the region, it says, shielding it from global warming.

Rising temperatures in the Antarctic Peninsula are making life suitable for invasive species on land and sea.

The report - Antarctic Climate Change and the Environment - was written using contributions from 100 leading scientists in various disciplines, and reviewed by a further 200.

Composite image of Maestland storm barrier in the Netherlands and Mozambique coastline defence

Rising seas: A tale of two cities

SCAR's executive director Dr Colin Summerhayes said it painted a picture of "the creeping global catastrophe that we face".

"The temperature of the air is increasing, the temperature of the ocean is increasing, sea levels are rising - and the Sun appears to have very little influence on what we see," he said.

SCAR's report comes 50 years to the day after the Antarctic Treaty, the international agreement regulating use of the territory, was opened for signing, and a week before the opening of the potentially seminal UN climate summit in Copenhagen.

High rise

Two years ago, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) projected that the global average sea level would probably rise by 28-43 cm (11-16in) by the end of the century.

But it acknowledged this figure was almost certainly too low, because it was impossible to model "ice dynamics" - the acceleration in ice melting projected to occur as air and water temperatures rise.

Launching the SCAR report in London, lead editor John Turner from the British Antarctic Survey (BAS) suggested that observations on the ground had changed that picture, especially in parts of the West Antarctic ice sheet.

"Warmer water is getting under the edges of the West Antarctic ice sheet and accelerating the flow of ice into the ocean," he said.
Infographic about sea level rises
Glaciers: If the world's mountain glaciers and icecaps melt, sea levels will rise by an estimated 0.5m
Thermal expansion: The expansion of warming oceans was the main factor contributing to sea level rise, in the 20th Century, and currently accounts for more than half of the observed rise in sea levels
Ice sheets: These vast reserves contain billions of tonnes of frozen water - if the largest of them (the East Antarctic ice sheet) melts, the global sea level will rise by an estimated 64m

By the end of the century, he said, the sheet will probably have lost enough ice alone to raise sea levels globally by "tens of centimetres".

The remainder of the projected rise would come from melting of the Greenland cap, melting of mountain glaciers in the Himalayas and Andes, and the expansion of seawater as it warms.

A number of research teams have come up with similar projections.

But this is the first time that an international body such as SCAR has endorsed the likelihood that sea levels will rise enough to threaten some of the world's biggest cities by the end of the century.

Cold store

The Antarctic Peninsula - the strip of land that points towards the southern tip of South America - has warmed by about 3C over the last 50 years, the fastest rise seen anywhere in the southern hemisphere, according to the report.

But the rest of the continent has remained largely immune from the global trend of rising temperatures.
Tourist ship (icebreaker)
More and more tourists are visiting the exotic Antarctica shores each year

Indeed, the continent's largest portion, East Antarctica, appears to have cooled, bringing a 10% increase in the sea ice extent since 1980.

This report backs the theory that it has bucked the global trend largely because of ozone depletion - the chemical havoc wrought over 30 years by chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) and other agents in the stratosphere above the polar region.

"We used to have a big blanket of ozone, and when we took it away we saw a cooling," said Professor Turner.

"The Antarctic has been shielded from the impacts of global warming."

But, the report concludes, that will not last forever.

The ozone hole is expected to repair itself in about 50 years, now that the Montreal Protocol has curbed the use of ozone-destroying substances.

As it does so, the SCAR team predicts that greenhouse warming will come to dominate the temperature change across Antarctica, as in other parts of the planet.

Doubling of greenhouse gas concentrations in the atmosphere would warm the continent by 3-4C, it says.

The majority of Antarctica is so cold that a rise of this magnitude in air temperature would have little impact.

But more warming of the oceans would speed ice loss still further, the report concludes.

On the basis of declines seen around the Antarctic Peninsula, it would also be expected to bring significant reductions in the abundance of krill, a key foodstuff for baleen whales and other animals.
Map of Antarctica (Image: BBC)

Among humankind, the frozen continent was once a preserve of explorers and scientists.

But now, about 30,000 tourists a year visit, some setting foot on outlying parts of the peninsula.

This increased human traffic, plus the warming on land and sea, are going to change the region's ecology, according to Julian Gutt, allowing organisms to enter and survive that were previously excluded through climate or simple geography.

"A good candidate is the stone crab (aka king crab) such as those found throughout Norwegian waters - they're more than a metre across from toe to toe.

"There are hints of it hopping across from South America - and that could completely change the ecosystem on the sea floor," said the Alfred Wegener Institute researcher.

About one third of one percent of Antarctica's land surface is ice-free; but already, non-native species are competing with native mosses for this meagre resource, Dr Gutt noted.

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Note the Al Bielek: Philadelphia Experiment & Montauk Project interview was taken BEFORE the 2000 Election and Blelek gives the TOTAL outcome of election and entire Bush vs Gore thing in courts!! From what he learned supposedly in 2137 history!


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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8387137.stm

Sea levels are likely to rise by about 1.4m (4ft 6in) globally by 2100 as polar ice melts, according to a major review of climate change in Antarctica.

I was watching the t-v last night and ITN News here in England was reporting on the ground live from the Himalayas that the glaciers there are fast retreating, due to climate change, and this is going to have dire, long-term consequences to that part of Asia as these glaciers provide the fresh water for large territories of India and China.

The Himalayas contain the largest store of water outside of the polar ice caps, and feed seven great Asian rivers. The rapid melt might explain some of that flooding that China's been suffering from during the last 4-5 years. Ironically, if these glaciers completely disappear, the situation will change and the water levels in rivers will decline, which could mean massive shortages of drinking water to hundreds of millions of people throughout China and the Indian subcontinent.


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This is a news update from Eagles Disobey!

(I am cutting the dawg persona for a miniute because this has to do with saving lives.)

Dan awoke Marci a few minutes ago, then me to make a post. He was listening to a news broadcast about dissatisfied parents who are watching their kids sick with the H1N1 flu and finding out that the RAPID H1N1 TEST is failing to catch some of the cases.

(Dan said that all rapid tests have error rates, but if this has any possibility of saving or helping anyone he is responsible to make the information public as fast as possible. He would have added the information in The Eagle Eye's section he just wrote, due out in about 24 hours, but it has already gone to press with the company we are using for the service.)

Dan said that the problems being faced with false negatives and the alternative offfered to parents to ask for the confirmation test if they aren't satisfied with the rapid test may be able to be fixed EASILY. The confirmation test is only offered at very limited labs throughout the U.S. and so this would be seen as "cost effective" by both the insurance companies and the doctors.

(THE FOLLOWING COMMENTS DO NOT MEAN ANYTHING ABOUT H1N1 AND BIOWARFARE, JUST THAT HE RECOGNIZED A PATTERN IN HOW THEY OVERCAME FALSE NEGATIVES, THAT COULD HELP.)

He said that during Desert Shield/Storm, rapid strip tests were used on front line units looking for the biowarfare agent that the rogue unit illegally used to covertly test on Iraqi's, the agent behind the reason why his unit was sent to Iraq once Desert Storm got going. "One of the outcomes of that illegal rogue action accounts for some of the symptoms in some of the Veterans reporting cases of Gulf War Syndrome." That strip test also showed false negatives, in studies where they knew that subjects (animals) were infected with the agent. He said there are ways of using the rapid tests "qualitatively" and even "quantitatively" when using them MORE THAN ONCE. He said that the procedure runs against the grain of how doctors usually look at rapid tests, BUT IT WORKED IN 1990-1991, and it increased the positive "hit rates".

He said that parents could have an option to request the rapid test being run MORE THAN ONCE, over a few day period, while treating the child for an unknown viral infection, then have the results looked at in a special way, a cheap and easy way with equipment most hospitals already have. During the war, the team used like a kind of tweaked blood glucose like testing machine to verify results in the field covertly. (He isn't suggesting anyone or any company tweak any testing equipment. Hospitals and most Urgent Care clinics should have the equipment needed to do what he is suggesting.)

He said that he wanted funds cut IMMEDIATELY to take him away from the already undergoing contracts for Eagles Disobey, Inc. for only the next couple days to write her a very short piece for the public and a longer more detailed one for their contacts at the CDC and National Institutes of Health. (Funds have to be cut, because "billed time" is being used.) In the interest of public health, Marci agreed, and he'll start on it later today.

If the "official" bureaucrats won't do anything about it, this could still offer parents a way to partial increase the effectiveness of the testing, by insisisting retests be done. The method parents could use to manipulate for the safety of their kids: "My child has been going down hill for days, and this costs less than other tests! RUN IT AGAIN! The first test is in error! Treat my child!" (We all know that if you are a real parent, holding the front and pressure up to help your child isn't hard.) Most front line doctors in the U.S. are sh-scared of lawsuits and usually do what the parents push for if the parents become very insisting. We parents must use the tools we have available.

To all of us at Eagles Disobey, the people continue to come first, not any bureaucracy B.S.!

"Keeping you informed, as this new high child-elderly infection and low fatality virus (with proper medical care) makes its way through the world population. We have been on the front lines of the REAL WORLD problem, helping you, and we're staying there watching out to give anything to you that can help!"

Mongraal News.


Sir Bone-Ami Mongraal wrote:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/allison-k ... 55127.html

Catholic Church Threatens To Stop Feeding Homeless Over Gay Marriage
December 1, 2009

ANGEL EAGLES, AND ESPECIALLY DAN AND MARCI, ISSUE THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT:

"ANGEL EAGLES WILL NEVER ACT IN SUCH A WAY AS WE ARE WITNESSING! PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE! PEOPLE HAVE HUMAN RIGHTS! HOMOSEXUALITY, LIKE HETEROSEXUALITY, IS NOT A LIFESTYLE CHOICE, IT IS A BIOLOGICALLY-BASED PREDISPOSITION!

ANGEL EAGLES PROMISES TO SERVE THE LGBT POPULATION JUST AS IT SERVES ALL OTHER POPULATIONS OF PEOPLE - EQUALLY.

THE CREATOR'S REALITY IS HERE FOR EVERYONE, AS A GIFT! EAGLES DISOBEY DENOUNCES ALL SUCH ACTS OF LEVERAGE AND COERCION USED AGAINST ANYONE (IN PARTICULAR THE HOMELESS AND OTHER MISTREATED PEOPLE {SUCH AS THE LGBT POPULATION})."

ANGEL EAGLES: "Just because it's the RIGHT thing to do!"


Uncle John here: Practically no one is going to listen to what d&m&thugs have to say. Why, because they surround their good works with their bad deeds and statements.

They have created a war with those on the Golden Thread which completely destroys any credibility that they would need for their words to get out. They have turned on the majority of their supporters in the past.

The RIGHT thing to do is stop this war with those that follow their work. This war is orchestrated by unseen forces with elements in place to control their minds.

What a pity.


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Post Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 2009 5.1
temporal at OMF wrote:
Jeddyhi asks:

"With all this in mind, when is the timing going to be right? When is the world ready? I'm of the opinion that the world is currently not ready.....maybe not even by 2017. The timing has to be a real consideration that could be causing the brick wall that Source A may be running into."

First off, it is our opinion that the PTBs will decide on disclosure, period. Contact on the other-hand we do not know?

When will the world be ready? The world will never be ready, or completely ready, for disclosure or contact. There is going to be a meltdown with some. However, there must be mitigating factors put in place to ease the trauma. This is the big dilemma with the PTBs and all associated with the 7Ms of power. It is why we have had all the secrecy for so many years. No one knows how to deal with it and have guarantees in place that we don't fold up or genuflect. Many thoughts on this.


Uncle John here: The reason that "no one knows how to deal with it" is because the PTB have no clue as to what is going on. The PTB do not realize that their minds are composites of many minds spread throughout the universe. The PTB are being directed to not have disclosure and keep the secrecy in place without being aware of where these thoughts are coming from. Shucks, I can't even get the brothers to understand and consider this.

temporal at OMF wrote:
Agreed on the timing issue. "It's the economy stupid" maxim that may or may not be a factor. This is the unfortunate part. People think with their pockets, not holistically. We would rather the economy worldwide be at its best for disclosure/contact. To do otherwise means that some (including myself) will look upon either disclosure or contact as a false flag operation. Fear for survival (terrestrially speaking) is never a good platform for introducing this paradigm. We must not expect ET to come down and correct our problems as some will think.

Again, contact must be unambiguous.


UJ: "It's the economy" is the reason that this control of the PTB's minds is occurring. The rest of the universe needs humanity to create all the technology for them because the rest of the universe has long forgotten how their technology was created and they have no way to change it. The economy begets the technology. This is the revelation that needs to happen before contact and disclosure. If fact, this revelation makes contact and disclosure irrelevant.

Perhaps someday the brothers will understand this and be able to communicate it to Source A. God willing, Source A will be able to communicate this revelation to his military bosses who could pass it up to the PTB.

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