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Post Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 2009 5.1 India Daily on 2012
These stories came from IndiaDaily which runs very interesting stories about space, physics, space travel etc.

ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN 2012 AND WHEN IT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO HAPPEN
http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/21147.asp
The world is not coming to an end on December 21, 2012 : NASA made one mistake it is Dec 23 not 21
India Daily Technology Team
Nov. 10, 2009

NASA says all clear! World is not ending on December 21, 2012. The Space Agency of America made one simple mistake. The world will not end on Dec 21, but any time between Dec 23, 2012 and Dec 23, 2029.

NASA said in a question-and-answer posting on its website, ìThere is no factual basis for these claims.î If such a collision were real, ìastronomers would have been tracking it for at least the past decade, and it would be visible by now to the naked eye,î it said.

ìObviously, it does not exist,î it added. ìCredible scientists worldwide know of no threat associated with 2012,î it insisted. After all, ìour planet has been getting along just fine for more than four billion years,î added NASA.

[b]The world is supposed to get hundreds of thosusands of extraterretsrial space ships from the super advanced Type V extraterretsrial civilization[/
b]. <=========I AM SURE THAT THIS LAST SENTENCE WAS NOT ON THE NASA WEBSITE.
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http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/21099.asp
In Guatemalan jungle, the new Mayan discovery confirms 2012 possibility of Extraterrestrail visit to the earth after 5000 years
India Daily Technology Team
Nov. 1, 2009



December 23rd, right at the midnight will see the arrival of hundreds of thousands of advanced extraterrestrial space ship, the Mayan experts say after the newest discovery of Mayan civilization comprising of thousands of pyramids of the size of downtoen Los Angeles.

Will it really happen? No, say some. It will definitely happen anytime between 2012 December 23rd and 2028 December 23rd. The exact time is unknown. Five thousand years back, earth saw the extraterrestrial vivilization protect the human race from a massive cataclysm that would have ended the earth as we know today. They visited in thosuands after that ordeal. They are coming again to establish the Federation of intergalactic solidarity.

The massive pyramids just discovered in Guatemalla tells the whole story. Mayan reveled the largest secret of human civilization. The truth was submerged all these yaers because brutal Spaniard invasion and consequent religious supremacy and htred for the Mayan people.

The SPaniards came and hushed the real secret under the jungle for so many years to make sure their "God" is unchallenged. The truth is out now.

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Very interesting story about the trainman Phatman. Thx.

If anyone is interested by the Michael Ruppert's story of the PROMIS software. I was reading Ruppert website ....wow it's been 5 years now!
I know I know, 5 ain't that much...but for my age it is. Oh, I wonder if I'm the younger here. :babydance haha. Anyway.

At that time, I was all over the 9/11, oil & geopolitics, so Ruppert was a good source of info. That was before his difficulties. He's kind of getting on his feet again I think:



Problem with MIcheal is that he's too into the peak oil theory. The guy is a hero by the way. Being shot two times I think in his carriere as LA drug enforcement plus probably targeted when he get out of the US after several attempts to destroy his business and discredit him. Anyway, people here probably know him. Anyone interested with the PROMIS software thing, check out chapter 10 of CROSSING THE RUBICON by Micheal Ruppert. A great book about 9/11 and geopolitical. But lacking the ETs element of course.

Here it is:
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Wow, the TRUTH is alive and well in GHANA:
http://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/N ... ?ID=171075


Anyone have any estimates as to how widespread the truth IS?


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http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/19733.asp

Biogenetic algorithms ready to show strange extraterrestrial intelligent life forms all around us by 2012
India daily Technology Team
Jul. 3, 2008

Scientists are getting ready for an earth-shattering announcement in 2012. The advances in biogenetics and algorithmic approach to bioengineering is a few years behind shocking the human race about the truth on extraterrestrial super intelligent life forms all around us.

We cannot see them, feel them or even conceptualize their existence around us. They not only exist but as a matter of fact they control many aspects of our lives and our civilization as a whole.

Three vital aspects of any living being ñ metabolism, reproduction or replication, and evolution, characterize living beings. Any organization in these requires sophisticated ëintelligentí algorithms or instruction sets.

The extraterrestrial life forms are in ions, in the dark matter and in the quantum level matters that we cannot even imagine.

The only way we can really find the existence of any life form is to decipher thy algorithm or instruction code build into the whole universe that defines the base of living beings - metabolism, reproduction or replication and evolution. Once the code is detected and a replication of the code is found elsewhere, we know life has found its evolution right there. And, overt rime, intelligent life forms are a definite from the evolution process through mutation and cross-gene extrapolation.

Life exists all around us. They also exist in higher dimensions in matters unknown to us. The invisible life forms follows the same laws that visible life forms follow.

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Bare hand Astronaut on the moon or in a Studio...?

From Apollo XVI


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Ukraine Flu Outbreak: Virus Is a Mixture of H1N1 and Parainfluenza, Causes Cardiopulmonary Failure
Interview with Dr. Victor Bachinsky


by Anna Yashchenko

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... leId=16088

Global Research, November 15, 2009
Unian News Agency (Ukraine), Russian original. Infowars Ireland (English translation) - 2009-11-14
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VIDEO: Ukraine in panic over swine flu

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... leId=16094

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VIDEO: H1N1 Influenza Polish Minister of Health Rejects WHO sponsored Vaccine

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... leId=16102

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Diseased African Monkeys Used to Make Swine Flu Vaccines; Private Military Contractor Holds Key Patents

By Mike Adams

http://waronyou.com/topics/diseased-afr ... y-patents/

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Ukraine Dead Increase to 299 - Still No Sequences
November 15th, 2009 7:52 PM
Categories: News, Health

Link: http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11150 ... e_299.html

The above numbers represent the latest update for the Ukraine Ministry of Health. Once again the number of dead increased by 17, but weekend numbers tend to be lower than weekday reports. The 199 dead are almost double the 155 reported week ago. The increased number of dead includes those from locations in central and eastern Ukraine. Last Sunday 13 of the 27 reporting regions had not exceeded the epidemic threshold, but today only 5 regions remained below the threshold (see map).

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http://cryptogon.com/?p=12128

Medical Doctor Retracts H1N1 Vaccine Advice After Reading Insert
November 15th, 2009

Multiple companies are producing H1N1 vaccines for use in the U.S. The inserts are available from the FDA for anyone who’s interested.



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http://markcrispinmiller.com/2009/11/h1 ... -official/

H1N1 vaccine program should be discontinued, says Canadian health official
Posted by mcm

November 15, 2009

Flu vaccination campaign a ‘mess’ that should be discontinued: health official
Meagan Fitzpatrick, Canwest News Service

OTTAWA — The Public Health Agency of Canada has made a “mess”of the H1N1 vaccination campaign and proceeding with it should be up for debate because its benefits are quickly evaporating, according to one of the country’s most vocal chief medical officers.

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We haven't seen anything yet.. This is just the SO called First Wave... Who is predicting wave 3 in the Spring for Northern Hemisphere..

3 times the charm.
3 on a match.. one dies.
3 strikes and your OUT!



The People that died in Ukrine.. LITERALLY died drowning in their own lungs.. The Lungs were literally burned black! According to auptosy reports.


This isn't over folks... This is just the beginning!


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Dondep and recall15, you both believe that Nibiru will arrive before January, 2012.
Is this opinion only based on what Nancy's Zeta's say, or is there other information that you have access to that has lead you to this conclusion?


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http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum ... 923489/pg1

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MJ-1, Adm. Stansfield Turner, is the head of Majestic Twelve. Although the entire organization answers to him, he also personally oversees the United States government's involvement in the Archuleta Base and personally signs off on each list of abductees.
MJ-2, Dr. Arden Bement, is the primary scientist in charge of reverse engineering Grey technology. He also controls Project Snowbird and Project Redlight.
MJ-3, Melvin Laird, deals mainly with the geopolitical implications of the extraterrestrial presence.
MJ-4, Gen. David Jones, personally oversees Majestic Twelve's military operations and its preparations for countering the Grey threat militarily. Project Excalibur and Project Gabriel also answer to him.
MJ-5, Sec. Robert Gates, exerts Majestic Twelve's authority in the Pentagon and Defense Department.
MJ-6, Dr. Bruce Alberts, studies Grey biology. Project Lotus and Project Star Flower are also under his authority. He also maintains the "Yellow Book".
MJ-7, Dr. Michael Griffin, supervises NASA and the application of reverse engineered Grey technology in the space program. He also oversees Project Pounce.
MJ-8, Adm. John McConnell, supervises the intelligence community's involvement in the Grey problem.
MJ-9, Henry Kissinger, is basically the senior diplomat in the group. He handles diplomatic relations with the Greys, and with the other Earth powers that are aware of the ET presence. He oversaw Project Plato and negotiated the Tau-IX treaty.
MJ-10, Dr. Seth Shostak, maintains secrecy in SETI and promotes anti-UFO skepticism and debunking. He is also Majestic Twelve's liaison with the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry.
MJ-11, Dr. James Schlesinger, supervises energy policy and the application of reverse engineered Grey technology to energy research.
MJ-12, Dr. Ralph Cicerone, supervises the chemtrail project and other atmospheric military technology.


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He (Dan Burish) is involved with the Majestic Twelve projects, but not everything he says is true; much of his story is false.

I did not watch the videos, but here are my observations from the page you linked to and the detailed story I clicked on from that page:

It is not true that Majestic Twelve no longer exists, and it is not true that a new group has taken over its work. Also, Burisch was never a "member"; at best he was a consultant or something like that. He was never MJ-9; Henry Kissinger is MJ-9 and has been for years.

Project Lotus is real, but the details they offer at that link are not accurate. Ganesh particles are not silicon-based and they do not alter DNA.


Uncle John here: Yet another human from the future sets up on GLP.

I can never get enough of this crazy stuff.


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"THE DEPOPULATION AGENDA" goes Mainstream on Catheherine Austin Fitts Blog:

Catherine Austin Fitts - WHO SHE IS, and her RESUME
http://www.dunwalke.com/catherine_austin_fitts.htm

HERE IT IS - THE BLOG POST
http://solari.com/blog/?p=3532

The comments are really great as well.


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Lynnwood wrote:
"THE DEPOPULATION AGENDA" goes Mainstream on Catheherine Austin Fitts Blog:

Catherine Austin Fitts - WHO SHE IS, and her RESUME
http://www.dunwalke.com/catherine_austin_fitts.htm

HERE IT IS - THE BLOG POST
http://solari.com/blog/?p=3532

The comments are really great as well.


Maybe she believes in this stuff: The Georgia Guidestones

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That Explanatory tablet indicates there is a timeline that these few hundred people who placed this know about since there's a buried timecapsule underneath (masonic tradition, theres a time capsule under the Egyptian obelisk in Central park too) that will be unearthed after the plans are accomplished. Also the languages on the erected blocks establish, imho, the four corners of the world. Each sector hinted on by the languages on them. All unified under a global governance being supported by a world population of 500 million people. The same number Catherine Austin came up with. How did she arrive to such a precise number? What math did she use? Did she have any prior knowledge of this number through these guidestones? Until those answers are given then her claims are just hyped up fear propaganda riding ontop the fear propaganda of swineflu vaccine genocide.

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Dondep and recall15, you both believe that Nibiru will arrive before January, 2012.
Is this opinion only based on what Nancy's Zeta's say, or is there other information that you have access to that has lead you to this conclusion?


1- The real meaning of the Mayan Calendar is that was a form of Disclosure form the Anunnaki, regarding the way that their home planet "revolves in the Sky"... it calculates acurately the return of the Planet, but by The Spanish Conquest, wipe all the remanents of this Culture, and Almost all of what is known about Mayan writing is from three books.

The rest were destroyed by the Spanish, and Bishop Diego de Landa, in particular. He felt that the books were inspired by the devil. This destruction of books is the second thing for which de Landa is known, First is his book "Relacion de las Cosas de Yucatan" . In July of 1562, de Landa burned five thousand idols and 27 hieroglyphic rolls at Mani in the Yucatan. This was not the only occasion that de Landa destroyed books; he is the main reason that so few examples of Mayan hieroglyphs exist today. Bishop Diego de Landa also tortured and killed many Mayans. There are records of burning people alive, hanging them from trees, mutilation and drowning. de Landa and others believed that the Spanish were so small in number that they had to use these tactics to scare the local population in order to achieve conquest.

Why? you may Ask, among all the Mayan Glypths it was the most Feared a circle with a red cross called Tzoltze ek´ Celestial Quetzalcoatl, that comes from the Sky to disrupt life on Earth. Buth the Spaniards say that the Cross is NOW the Symbol of God!, they destroyed the 5000 idols and 27 codex that despicted it, and the inquisition Starts!

The Problem is that they also killed the Mayans that know when this Calendar Start!, and with all the reforms of the Calendars Roman, Julian and Gregorian, the End data become more Bogus!!!

2- Some other Time Travel People, in the past 5 years on Time Travel Institute
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http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1070/11c.jpg

and Time Travel Portal: that one was down due a Timeline change!

Note that after this data of the Calendar reach 13.0.0.0.0 it will be reset to 1.0.0.0.0!

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Uncle John here: Marci brings us some entertainment with a new video.



I can't wait to see how mjc relates to her latest?

Perhaps every security personnel in Las Vegas might watch this video by the end of the day. They share information, always love challenges and hate cheaters.


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I was asked in private to provide a link the report about people in the Ukraine having there lungs literally burned black by the flu..

Here it is...

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British scientists testing Ukrainian 'super flu' that has killed 189 people

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... leId=16107

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British scientists are examining the strain of swine flu behind a deadly Ukrainian outbreak to see if the virus has mutated.

A total of 189 people have died and more than one million have been infected in the country.

Some doctors have likened the symptoms to those seen in many of the victims of the Spanish flu which caused millions of deaths world-wide after the World War One.


An unnamed doctor in western Ukraine told of the alarming effects of the virus.

He said: 'We have carried out post mortems on two victims and found their lungs are as black as charcoal.

'They look like they have been burned. It's terrifying.'

Neighbouring Poland has called on the EU to take action, fearing the mystery virus may spread westwards.

Prime Minister Donald Tusk has written to European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso and the Swedish Prime Minister, Fredrik Reinfeldt, who holds the EU presidency.


The letter said: 'The character of this threat demands that rapid action be undertaken at the European Union level.'


Russia, Slovakia, Poland, Hungary and Romania have already launched health checks on Ukrainians entering their territory.


Slovakia has closed two of five border crossings.


Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko has called in the World Health Organisation.

A team of specialists are carrying out tests in Kiev and Lviv in an effort to identify the virus.

President Yushchenko said: 'People are dying. The epidemic is killing doctors. This is absolutely inconceivable in the 21st Century.'

In a TV interview, the President added: 'Unlike similar epidemics in other countries, three causes of serious viral infections came together simultaneously in Ukraine: two seasonal flus and the Californian flu.

'Virologists conclude that this combination of infections may produce an even more aggressive new virus as a result of mutation.'

Four men and one woman have died from the flu in Lviv, said emergency hospital chief doctor Myron Borysevych.

Two of the dead patients were in the 22-35 age group, with two others over 60.

He diagnosed the disease as viral pneumonia.

'We have sent the analyses to Kiev. We don't believe it's H1N1 swine flu. Neither do we know what kind of pneumonia it is.'

Universities, schools and nurseries have been closed, public meetings have been banned and theatres shut.

The virus from the Ukraine is being tested at the Medical Research council labs in Mill Hill North London .

A spokesman said: 'We do not have a time scale for the results of the tests, although some preliminary results have been obtained. I cannot tell you what they are.

'We did not have enough of the virus samples so we will have to grow some more before we can come to a conclusive decision about its nature.'



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"Pneumonic plague

Pneumonic plague is one of three main forms of plague, all of which are caused by the bacterium Yersinia pestis. It is more virulent and rarer than bubonic plague. The difference between the versions of plague is simply the location of the infection. Pneumonic plague is an infection in the lung(s), bubonic plague is an infection of the buboes or lymph nodes, while septicemic plague is an infection in the blood stream.

Typically, pneumonic form is due to a secondary spread from advanced infection of an initial bubonic form. Primary pneumonic plague results from inhalation of fine infective droplets and can be transmitted from human to human without involvement of fleas or animals. Untreated pneumonic plague has a very high fatality rate.

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Ukraine

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... z0WzraW0Jf Ukrainian News Agency "Fraza" reported that, according to informed sources, "it has been confirmed 100 % Pneumonic Plague in Ukraine". The Agency asserts that "the head physician of the medical institutions has sent out an informal disposal - not to sow panic, to refute the information about the plague, and to speak only of swine influenza".
It is also required to distribute masks at health facilities with 8 levels of protection and anti-plague protection costumes. There is also an informal order not to allow any visitors to see the patients. According to the "Fraza" agency, "today in Ukraine pneumonic plague is going in parallel with swine flu. The plague has killed over 60 people, and about 14 from the flu. Meanwhile, the press service of the Ministry of Health of Ukraine reported that there is only one death from "California" virus A/N1N1 in Ukraine. "In Ukraine there are 22 cases recorded of the virus A/N1N1 disease and there is only one fatal consequence as a result. All other cases of death from influenza has only a speculative attitude to "California" virus," press service reports. The situation with the epidemic of influenza is a complex and unpredictable because of the propensity of influenza A/H1N1 virus to mutation, said First Deputy Minister of Health Mr. Lazoryshynets on Monday. [9]

created by baxter http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z084JvXX ... r_embedded


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You would think that the likes of Henry Kissinger, Zebig, Cheney, McConnell meeing all together in a Los Vegas Casino would be major news! Hell the Hotel Staff alone serving on them tipping off the Press, would pay their salary for a year!

News such as these four major big wigs meeting in L.V would be impossible to cover up..

Simple Logic..

If anyone actually believes these Videos of Marci Jib jabing were taken during a Majestic Meet Up.. Hey I own this Golden Gate Birdige in San Fransciao I need to see quick..


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Uncle John here: Marci brings us some entertainment with a new video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiGMeVp26aY

I can't wait to see how mjc relates to her latest?

Perhaps every security personnel in Las Vegas might watch this video by the end of the day. They share information, always love challenges and hate cheaters.


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Remember;

May: <-- Death month, Swine flu incoming from Mexico! Clearly bioengineered for culling the masses.
result: nothing, all is quiet except for the usual real policies threatening the constitution.

July: <-- Death month of swine flu genocide! NWO starting month.
result: nothing, yeah cases of swine flu continue to emerge but not the hundreds of thousands of deaths. No NWO taking me away from my house...bummer.

September: <-- ok, this is the new death month! Mass genocide and start of NWO in America, guaranteed.
result: nothing, Obama had some crazy Czars pop up and get examined by the populace.

October: <-- webbot destruction month! Vaccine tampered with with death adjuvants to speed NWO takeover!
result: nothing, some more deaths from Swine flu but not the millions as expected. bummer

November: <-- Death and destruction for sure! Lady Gaga will release her latest Satanic video!
result pending: nothing yet, except the first terrorist attack on American soil in 8 years and not called it. No NWO takeover yet. Still free to wonder around the town. Lady Gaga did release a new video, definitely Satanic.

December: The future interaction month of the swine flu vaccine with some new, yet unreleased, bioagent! Millions of deaths sure to happen, guaranteed.


That way, this promote a genetic variants...

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"CCR5-Δ32

CCR5-Δ32 (or CCR5-D32 or CCR5 delta 32) is a genetic variant of CCR5.[6][7]

CCR5-Δ32 is a deletion mutation of a gene that has a specific impact on the function of T cells. CCR5-Δ32 is widely dispersed throughout Northern Europe and in those of Northern European descent. It has been hypothesized that this allele was favored by natural selection during the Black Death. This coalescence date is contradicted by purported evidence of CCR5-Δ32 in Bronze Age samples, at levels comparable to the modern European population.[8] Research from The University of California at Berkeley published in 2003 indicates that smallpox may be another candidate for the high level of the mutation in the European population.[6]

The allele has a negative effect upon T cell function, but appears to protect against smallpox and HIV. Yersinia pestis was demonstrated in the laboratory to not associate with CCR5. Individuals with the Δ32 allele of CCR5 are healthy, suggesting that CCR5 is largely dispensable. However, CCR5 apparently plays a role in mediating resistance to West Nile virus infection in humans, as CCR5-Δ32 individuals have shown to be disproportionately at higher risk of West Nile virus in studies,[9] indicating that not all of the functions of CCR5 may be compensated by other receptors.

While CCR5 has multiple variants in its coding region, the deletion of a 32-bp segment results in a nonfunctional receptor, thus preventing HIV R5 entry; two copies of this allele provide strong protection against HIV infection.[10] This allele is found in 5-14% of Europeans but is rare in Africans and Asians.[11] Multiple studies of HIV-infected persons have shown that presence of one copy of this allele delays progression to the condition of AIDS by about 2 years. CCR5-Δ32 decreases the number of CCR5 proteins on the outside of the CD4 cell, which can have a large effect on the HIV disease progression rates. It is possible that a person with the CCR5-Δ32 receptor allele will not be infected with HIV R5 strains. Several commercial testing companies offer tests for CCR5-Δ32.

In 2008, German doctors announced that an HIV-infected leukemia patient had received a bone marrow transplant from a donor who is homozygous for the CCR5-Δ32 trait. After 600 days, the patient was healthy and had undetectable levels of HIV in the blood and in examined brain and rectal tissues.[12][13] Before the transplant, low levels of HIV X4, which does not use the CCR5 receptor, were also detected. Following the transplant, however, this type of HIV was not detected either, further baffling doctors.[14]"
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MILLION HIT BY 'PLAGUE WORSE THAN SWINE FLU'
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Fears that a deadly virus could spread west from Ukraine

Sunday November 15,2009
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A DEADLY plague could sweep across Europe, doctors fear, after an outbreak of a virus in Ukraine plunged the country and its neighbours into a state of panic.

A cocktail of three flu viruses are reported to have mutated into a single pneumonic plague, which it is believed may be far more dangerous than swine flu. The death toll has reached 189 and more than 1 million people have been infected, most of them in the nine regions of Western Ukraine.

President of Ukraine Viktor Yushchenko has called in the World Health Organisation and a team of nine specialists are carrying out tests in Kiev and Lviv to identify the virus. Samples have been sent to London for analysis.

President Yushchenko said: “People are dying. The epidemic is killing doctors. This is absolutely inconceivable in the 21st Century.”

In a TV interview, the President added: “Unlike similar epidemics in other countries, three causes of serious viral infections came together simultaneously in Ukraine – two seasonal flus and the Californian flu

“Virologists conclude that this combination of infections may produce an even more aggressive new virus as a result of mutation.”

Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko has been touring hospitals where victims are being treated and presidential elections in January could be cancelled .

Four men and one woman have died from the flu in Lviv, said emergency hospital chief doctor Myron Borysevych. Two of the dead patients were in the 22-35 age group, with two others over 60. He diagnosed the disease as viral pneumonia.

“We have sent the analyses to Kiev. We don’t believe it’s H1N1 swine flu. Neither do we know what kind of pneumonia it is.”

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Universities, schools and kindergartens have been closed, public meetings have been banned and theatres shut. Last week several border crossings in the country were also closed.

Last night reports emerged of profiteering over face masks, which have sold out since the outbreak. There are also incidents of anti-virus medication being sold for exorbitant prices. A spokesman for the World Health Organisation said: “We do not have a time scale for the results of the tests in London, although some preliminary results have been obtained. I cannot tell you what they are.

“We did not have enough of the virus samples so we will have to grow some more before we can come to a conclusive decision about its nature.”

Neighbouring Poland has called on the EU to take action, fearing the mystery virus may spread westwards.

Prime Minister Donald Tusk has written to European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso and the Swedish Prime Minister, Fredrik Reinfeldt, who holds the EU presidency, saying: “The character of this threat demands that rapid action be undertaken at the European Union level.”

Russia, Slovakia, Poland, Hungary and Romania, countries that border Ukraine, have already launched health checks on Ukrainians entering their territory.

Slovakia has closed two of five border crossings.

A doctor in Western Ukraine who did not want to be named, said:” We have carried out post mortems on two victims and found their lungs are as black as charcoal.

“They look like they have been burned. It’s terrifying.”



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MJ-1, Adm. Stansfield Turner, is the head of Majestic Twelve. Although the entire organization answers to him, he also personally oversees the United States government's involvement in the Archuleta Base and personally signs off on each list of abductees.
MJ-2, Dr. Arden Bement, is the primary scientist in charge of reverse engineering Grey technology. He also controls Project Snowbird and Project Redlight.
MJ-3, Melvin Laird, deals mainly with the geopolitical implications of the extraterrestrial presence.
MJ-4, Gen. David Jones, personally oversees Majestic Twelve's military operations and its preparations for countering the Grey threat militarily. Project Excalibur and Project Gabriel also answer to him.
MJ-5, Sec. Robert Gates, exerts Majestic Twelve's authority in the Pentagon and Defense Department.
MJ-6, Dr. Bruce Alberts, studies Grey biology. Project Lotus and Project Star Flower are also under his authority. He also maintains the "Yellow Book".
MJ-7, Dr. Michael Griffin, supervises NASA and the application of reverse engineered Grey technology in the space program. He also oversees Project Pounce.
MJ-8, Adm. John McConnell, supervises the intelligence community's involvement in the Grey problem.
MJ-9, Henry Kissinger, is basically the senior diplomat in the group. He handles diplomatic relations with the Greys, and with the other Earth powers that are aware of the ET presence. He oversaw Project Plato and negotiated the Tau-IX treaty.
MJ-10, Dr. Seth Shostak, maintains secrecy in SETI and promotes anti-UFO skepticism and debunking. He is also Majestic Twelve's liaison with the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry.
MJ-11, Dr. James Schlesinger, supervises energy policy and the application of reverse engineered Grey technology to energy research.
MJ-12, Dr. Ralph Cicerone, supervises the chemtrail project and other atmospheric military technology.


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He (Dan Burish) is involved with the Majestic Twelve projects, but not everything he says is true; much of his story is false.

I did not watch the videos, but here are my observations from the page you linked to and the detailed story I clicked on from that page:

It is not true that Majestic Twelve no longer exists, and it is not true that a new group has taken over its work. Also, Burisch was never a "member"; at best he was a consultant or something like that. He was never MJ-9; Henry Kissinger is MJ-9 and has been for years.

Project Lotus is real, but the details they offer at that link are not accurate. Ganesh particles are not silicon-based and they do not alter DNA.


Uncle John here: Yet another human from the future sets up on GLP.

I can never get enough of this crazy stuff.

Me too, UJ. The below image seems to confirm AlcyoneOfMars's claim that MJ10 is who she says he is.

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So according to Alcyone, in just a few generations after the 2012 invasion, humanity's going to evolve into Grays, eh? I'd better get myself a pop-gun then. There's quite a lot of Burisch informational retreads in AlcyoneOfMars's claims -- although she's contradicting what he said most of the time -- mixed in with what seems like huge dollops of tripe.

I didn't know this, but Alcyone is a Greek mythological figure and also a star about 400 light years from Earth.


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The hum sound in the undergroud, caused by the gravimetrical influence of Nibiru in the core of this planet, annoyed these rodents, the Ten plagues Time as coming again! not just the Ripper!

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Hi MK. This one gets a mention every couple of years. I'm not a big fan of the watchdog site but this is a pretty comprehensive debunk of the Rutter story. Hope it saves some time investigating or at least provides some facts on the subject.

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STUCK IN A RUT...

Since beginning an investigation into the Reed UFO Hoax, quite a bit of information about the people involved in the hoax has been uncovered. Information came in, leads were followed up and some people were able to track down the real identities of some of the players involved in this scam.

However, one of the most frustrating pieces of the puzzle to track down was locating the main player in this hoax, the ever-so elusive Dr. Jonathan Reed. After several various and extensive searches for anything relating to this person (public records checks, criminal history checks, university databases, graduate records, phone records, birth records, property records, et al), the search always came up with negative results. The key to breaking this hoax wide open was to find Dr. Jonathan Reed. I had operated on the assumption that the name was an alias as had been with three of the other co-conspirators; Robert 'Raith', 'Dr.' Harold Chacon and Larry 'Arthur.' More on that later...

After receiving some good leads and talking to a person that claimed to have been involved in the perpetration of the hoax, the break I had been patiently waiting for in this case since 1998 found its way into my e-mail box...


http://www.ufowatchdog.com/exposed10.html

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MK: Actually, I watched the videos and they are really convincing. I read the scientific analysis of the material that "Reed/Rutter" submitted for analyses. I admit that I have not contacted the labs yet, but I think that I might do that.

The URL that you supplied was more of a character assassination page than real proof that this incident is false. All of the videos of the interactions are online including one where Reed/Rutter is vomiting profusely while in the presence of his dead dog and the creature.

I was not there. However, whenever I find a person's account of this sort of stuff being discredited through character assasination and not facts, it makes me think that there must be something there. Nothing that I read made me believe that Reed/Rutter had the skills to create a fake and very lifelike being.

There are some new videos made in 2009. Some are from witnesses that testify to the character assassination that took place. One is from a guy who claims to be an engineer in aerospace who meet Reed at a conference on unique materials.

I guess I will look into the labs and see if those are dummy reports.

MK



PS: Everybody should go and read the articles on the IndiaDaily. They talk about trying to decide whether they should make public to the world that there are ET bases on the moon that NASA has never disclosed.

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Bare hand Astronaut on the moon or in a Studio...?

From Apollo XVI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCVf--VobyE&NR=1

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My favorite person, Dr. Peter Beter, stated that a certain number of the flights were "FAKED" and he explains why. I am sure that you will find his explaination fascinating. His comments are corroborated by other people who have written about how Ike was very upset that Nelson A. Rockefeller took over the CIA, Majestic and the UFO coverup.

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2009-11-11 13:25 BJT


http://english.cctv.com/program/newshou ... 3051.shtml

Special Report: World tackles A/H1N1 flu |

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http://english.cctv.com/program/newshou ... 3051.shtml


Medical experts are warning that the A/H1N1 flu has entered a period of high frequency and easy transmission. And with fresh cases of pigs infected by the virus in Hong Kong and Taiwan, experts say the possibility that the virus will mutate is growing.

Recent monitoring has found several cases of pigs, cats and dogs infected by the human A/H1N1 flu virus. Experts now fear that close contact between people and animals will increase the danger of mutation. China's Ministry of Health reported 30 fatal cases on the mainland as of Monday, out of nearly 60 thousand confirmed cases. It said the increase in infections will inevitably result in additional severe cases. Experts call for a timely response each time a case is confirmed, to prevent the illness from worsening.

Dr. Zhong Nanshan, head of Chinese Medical Association, said, "Because when the virus harms the lungs, there is a high possibility of breathing difficulty. It is different from the usual pneumonia. And there will be great difficulty treating such patients, even though they are young and healthy. The reason for this is unclear yet, but what we can do is get vaccinated, and go to the hospital as soon as possible when suffering from a continuous fever. "




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H1N1 "Super Flu" Plague in Ukraine Spark Concern, Conspiracy Theories About Origins

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Here's what we know with some degree of certainty about the H1N1 virus in Ukraine right now: nearly 300 people have died from the viral strain, and over 65,000 people have been hospitalized (the actual numbers are increasing by the hour). The virus appears to be either a highly aggressive mutation of the globally-circulating H1N1 strain, or a combination of three different influenza strains now circulating in Ukraine. Some observers suspect this new "super flu" might be labeled viral hemorrhagic pneumonia (meaning it destroys lung tissue until your lungs bleed so much that you drown in your own fluid), but that has not been confirmed by any official sources we're aware of.

Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko has issued emergency quarantine orders for nine of the country's regions and ordered the deployment of mobile military hospitals. He announced that the nation had been simultaneously hit with two different seasonal flu strains plus H1N1 -- and then hinted that all three might have recombined into the deadly new Ukrainian super flu.

In his own words, as reported by Daily Mail, "Unlike similar epidemics in other countries, three causes of serious viral infections came together simultaneously in Ukraine: two seasonal flus and the Californian flu. Virologists conclude that this combination of infections may produce an even more aggressive new virus as a result of mutation."

On November 6, Ukraine's Deputy Health Minister Zinovy Mytnyk announced that over 600,000 citizens had already caught the new flu. British scientists are now conducting tests on the new viral strain to find out why it appears to be so deadly.

The mainstream media is blaming Ukraine's poor health care system for the relatively high rates of hospitalization and death, but they refuse to mention (yet again) the vitamin D deficiency found across this population living at high latitude in the winter, where sunlight is relatively scarce.

Here's a useful blog for staying up to date on the Ukrainian plague.

What we don't know

Now here's what we don't know about the Ukraine outbreak:

What is the actual genetic composition of this mutated strain?

Scientists have not released any meaningful news about the genetic sequence of the Ukraine strain. For the moment, the WHO is somewhat quiet on the matter. The last WHO update was from November 3 (and the situation has become considerably worse since).

Was this viral strain released as a bioweapon?

There are numerous reports circulating widely across the 'net that cite aerial spraying across Kiev in the days before the new "super flu" outbreak. People are speculating that this was a bioweapon attack intentionally unleashed upon the Ukrainian population. So far, NaturalNews can find no credible information supporting this theory, but it remains a possibility to be researched further.

Does Baxter Pharmaceuticals have anything to do with the outbreak?

You may recall that earlier this year, Baxter shipped live avian flu viral material to labs in 18 countries, including one in the Ukraine. There is suspicion that Baxter could be tied to a planned outbreak of a weaponized virus as a population control bioweapon of some sort, but NaturalNews has not been unable to find any credible information sources supporting this theory. Lacking any better leads on this subject, as far as we can tell right now this remains an unproven conspiracy theory. (If anyone has more credible info on this, please send it our way for review.)

It is plausible that Baxter had something to do with this, but we just don't have any convincing evidence to back it up at this point.

H1N1 vaccines likely offer little protect against the Ukraine super flu

People receiving H1N1 vaccine shots right now need to know that currently-available H1N1 vaccine shots may offer no protection whatsoever against the "Ukraine Strain." That's because once the virus mutates, changing it genetic structure, it can instantly render all existing vaccines obsolete.

Depending on the degree of genetic changes, there is a possibility that some level of immunity may be conferred to people who already have H1N1 antibodies, but here's the dirty little secret the vaccine industry doesn't want you to know: People who built their own natural immunity to H1N1 through exposure rather than vaccines have a much greater likelihood of exhibiting natural immunity to genetic variations of H1N1. In other words, people who overcame H1N1 exposure on their own, without being vaccinated, have a far stronger defense against H1N1 variations that might appear.

This is yet another reason why flu vaccines are so dangerous: The deny your immune system the important opportunity to exercise its own adaptive defenses and build stronger protections against future infections.

One possible scenario that could unfold with all this is that the Ukraine strain might spread around the world, wiping out those who got vaccinated against H1N1 because their immune systems suffer from a suppressed ability to naturally generate antibodies to a new strain. Meanwhile, drug companies will try to scramble and create a whole new batch of "super flu" vaccines, but they're always too little, too late. Theoretically, millions of people could die around the world while waiting in line for yet another vaccine shot.

All they really need is vitamin D3, some herbal anti-virals, a healthy diet and plenty of rest, but no one is telling them that.

Even the Ukraine super flu is no match for a healthy immune system. Remember: Out of 65,000+ hospitalizations, fewer than 300 people have died so far. That's still a very low mortality rate, even if the spread of the viral infection seems aggressive.

WHO cranking up anti-viral drug push

Meanwhile, the WHO is upping its push for anti-viral drugs, saying that drugs like Tamiflu should now be used earlier on swine flu victims.

They still won't recommend anti-viral herbs, foods, supplements or natural remedies, of course. The WHO remains a faithful pusher of Big Pharma's profit agenda, even while denying the People of the world the truth about how they can save their own lives with anti-viral natural remedies. To both the WHO and CDC, the swine flu pandemic has always been about pushing a pharmaceutical agenda at the expense of public health.

Had the public been informed about vitamin D and natural anti-virals like Lomatium, many lives could have already been saved. Instead, the drug pushers at the CDC and WHO have tens of millions of people standing in line waiting for vaccines instead of consuming natural supplements and remedies that could help protect them from influenza.

The profit agenda forces us to wonder: With the current H1N1 strain fizzling out -- and yet billions of dollars worth of vaccines still needing to be sold -- could the Ukraine strain have been engineered to scare up more demand and more sales of vaccines and anti-virals?

That's a question that all thinking people need to be asking right now. But we also need to be careful in assessing what's true here. Reading the postings about this on the 'net, I've noticed way too many people leaping to assumptions about what's happening in the Ukraine without any real evidence to back that up. The reports about Joseph Moshe, in particular, appear to be a complete hoax.

While it's possible this was an engineered bioweapon of some sort, it's not enough to just assume that's true and then declare it to be so. More evidence is needed before NaturalNews would back a theory like that.

We'll keep you posted on what we find. New documents tend to come our way after we post the first story on a subject like this, often leading to a follow-up story that benefits from more information.

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Pandemic (H1N1) 2009, Ukraine

Ukraine Dead Increase to 239 - Still No Sequences

British Scientists Testing Ukrainian 'Super Flu' that has Killed 189 People

Fragile Care Worsened Swine Flu in Ukraine



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Doctors learned why Ukrainians dying! (updated at 06:25 pm)
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http://www.mignews.com.ua/en/articles/378759.html

All victims of the virus in Bukovyna (22 people at the age of 20-40) died not from bilateral pneumonia, as was previously thought, but as a result of viral distress syndrome, i.e the total destruction of the lungs.

At first the cardio-pulmonary insufficiency comes, and consequently cardiogenic shock is developed, which causes cardiac standstill and death, told the chief of bureau of the Chernivtsi regional forensic examination, doctor of science, Professor Viktor Bachynsky, UNIAN reports.

"During a bilateral pneumonia some morphological picture is observed. As of data of deaths, there is no such morphological picture. The virus, which causes death, is very aggressive, it does not strike the trachea, but immediately gets into the lungs and causes heavy swelling and solid hemorrhage. Mixed types of parainfluenza and influenza A/N1N1 lead to this state. This is a very toxic strain, which has not yet answered to the treatment of the Ministry of Health", - said Viktor Bachinsky.

According to him, there is a need to change the treatment standards, because those which were used earlier, resulted in nothing – doctors failed to save all people infected with the virus in the reanimation. The belt ventilators did not help also.

For this reason a group of professors of Chernivtsi Medical University appealed to the Ministry of Health and National Security and Defense Council with a demand to review the standards of treatment of patients in Bukovyna. Scientists-morphologists sent to Kyiv reports, studies and analysis of critically ill patients and people who died of virus.

Viktor Bachinsky noted that the virus is extremely toxic, it is able to penetrate not only through respiratory apparatus but also through the eyes. Chernovtsy scientists recommend in any case use masks and even wear protective spectacles. An important condition to prevent deterioration of the situation is also the observance of quarantine regime.

06:19 p.m. Ministry of Health does not consider it is necessary to publish data on the number of confirmed cases of influenza pandemic in the laboratory. "Ukraine is in the A/N1N1 influenza pandemic, and now it does not matter how many of these cases will be detected, we should treat everybody equally," - said Deputy Minister of Health Vasyl Lazoryshynets at a briefing on Friday.

Vasyl Lazoryshynets also reminded that in Ukraine since the beginning of the epidemic 1,25 mn people became ill with pandemic influenza, influenza and acute respiratory diseases, including 61,000 people - over the past day, which is by 8,500 less than the previous day. 65,615 people are treated in hospital, including 392 - in the reanimation, 60 have artificial pulmonary ventilation.

Since the beginning of the epidemic in Ukraine 239 people died, including 26 people during the last day, most of them are in the Ivano-Frankivsk, Chernivtsi, Lviv and Ternopil Regions. He also said that according to the laboratory data, 14 people died of pandemic influenza, Interfax-Ukraine reports.

06:25 p.m. To date, swine flu in Ukraine is dominant, but not the only strain, said the head of mission of the World Health Organization in Ukraine Yukka Pukkila.

Yukka Pukkila said that the strain of pandemic virus is detected in 22 cases of 34 samples sent to the control laboratory, which collaborates with WHO in London.

At the same time, Yukka Pukkila stressed that, besides Californian flu in Ukraine there is a large number of varieties of acute respiratory viral diseases and many other viruses that infect the respiratory system, reports Liga.


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Speaking of Fumes from undergroud...due a Planetary Core Stress!

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"Mystery of the dying budgies: Dozens of prized birds drop off their perches in front of judges during show

Bird lovers and exhibitors watched in horror as 38 prize budgies keeled over and died during a show.

Owners and organisers rushed about getting their cages outside into the fresh air as the budgerigars began plummeting from their perches.

Fanciers feared a gas leak caused the tragedy.

But after investigations by plumbers, gas workers, fire authorities and environmental health officers, there was no explanation for what happened at the village hall event in Gwynedd, North Wales.
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Uncle John here: Marci brings us some entertainment with a new video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiGMeVp26aY

I can't wait to see how mjc relates to her latest?

Perhaps every security personnel in Las Vegas might watch this video by the end of the day. They share information, always love challenges and hate cheaters.

I was thinking Mary Poppins on acid, UJ...minus the umbrella. :yamon

As we know, Body Language and its associated behaviours always give people away in respect to what they're saying, and Marci's no different in that regard.

When Marci talks about the "new group" approaching Dan and trying to get him to "sign back in," notice the way she drags her forefinger across her top lip ( a nose gesture) immediately afterwards, a tell-tale sign that she's being, er...economical with the truth there. The "new group" clearly doesn't require the services of Dan any time soon.
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This contrasted appreciably with not being able to contain her excitement regarding the "old group's" suggestion that they form a "syndicate" and exploit her insider casino surveillance knowledge -- she's already counting the dollars in her mind before she's even made it (cue lots of chin rubbing and excited gestures).


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Bare hand Astronaut on the moon or in a Studio...?

From Apollo XVI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCVf--VobyE&NR=1

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My favorite person, Dr. Peter Beter, stated that a certain number of the flights were "FAKED" and he explains why. I am sure that you will find his explaination fascinating. His comments are corroborated by other people who have written about how Ike was very upset that Nelson A. Rockefeller took over the CIA, Majestic and the UFO coverup.

MK


You know, I was always of the opinion that the US actually landed on the moon in 1969 and subsequent years, but the more "anomalies" I see in footage, the more I'm inclined to believe that some of the footage was faked in a film studio by Stanley Kubrick (whose 2001 film came out in 1968) and the director left little in-joke "clues" in the footage. Luna, an upcoming documentary film by Jose Escamilla, even shows a little monkey-like creature running out of a lunar lander on the moon's surface. Just incredible. :huh


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Uncle John here: Marci brings us some entertainment with a new video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiGMeVp26aY

I can't wait to see how mjc relates to her latest?

Perhaps every security personnel in Las Vegas might watch this video by the end of the day. They share information, always love challenges and hate cheaters.


It seems to me this is a 1st person admission of, and intent to continue; defrauding the casinos of the state of Nevada utilizing special and privileged knowledge gathered as an employee or contractor thereof. How stupid can one woman be making such an admission in a public record, publishing that admission on a world venue, and taking her powerful mentors down in said admission at the same time? Double stupid IMHO. Anyone want to be a good citizen and forward this link to the Nevada Gaming Commission? I would greatly enjoy being a fly on the walls while the officers and employees of said commission reply to such stupidity with the legal hammer availed such august bodies.

And what of those she begins to indict but not name? Is Marci perhaps suicidal now? This clip is not indicative of rational behavior.

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