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Re: the gold-plated tungsten bars

I suspect that the looting of Fort Knox was initiated from the highest places in the American echelon many decades ago and the U.S. gold reserves have been phony ever since. Fort Knox has not permitted a physical audit of their holdings since 1954! Not a single bar in their possession has been randomly drilled and assayed since.
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Dear Selene,

Dr. Peter Beter said that the gold was originally stolen by the Rockefellers in the mid '70s. He caused such a stir that the gold was probably returned for a short period of time.
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It was only the “unthinkable” – that any foreign government might actually demand delivery of their gold and then test it for purity that unravelled the scam.

The scam actually first emerged in 1983 when Austrian authorities arrested 5 men charged with possessing gold bars stolen from England. http://www.nytimes.com/1983/12/22/world/austrians-seize-false-gold-tied-to-london-bullion-theft.html The bars turned out to be tungsten, but police were puzzled why the serial numbers of the fakes matched those of the missing bullion. Of course, the stolen “good” bars were already fake – but no one suspected it at the time. The thieves, it appears, were never prosecuted and the story was quietly buried.
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MK: That story was not "dropped,' it became the foundation of some quiet and surreptitious monitoring of gold belonging to the US. When Clinton appeared to be "leasing" gold too often, there was some "examination" of the gold being "leased" about two ? years ago...that is when the first fake bars were found. Then the Chinese got wind of that situation, performed some scan that turned out hinky so they drilled some of the bars that they had received from the US. Bingo! That gold wasn't gold.
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Think about it. The scam was a logical variation on basic banking reserves theory that’s been in operation since the Middle Ages. That is, any bank need have only a small percentage of their deposits held in the form of ready cash on any given day, since the probability that all their depositors will all demand their cash on the same day is practically nil. The rest is loaned out. That’s the fractional reserve system. And the system’s “full faith and credit” is that the bank is good for your cash when you do need it.
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MK: actually, fractional reserve banking was pioneered by the Rothschilds and is practiced by most banks today. As I have pointed out on sites frequented by Globalist minions, fractional reserve banking and a one-world currency are incompatible--horribly incompatible AS GREECE, LATVIA ETC. ARE DISCOVERING WITH THE EURO (see webofdebt blog by Ellen Brown). Unfortunately for the cabal and their friends, those facts are going to be proven VERY soon.
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So far, so good.

So here’s “all this gold just sitting there” in Fort Knox. What’s it for? To back the promise of the U.S. government’s full faith and credit. And no one was ever supposed to challenge the U.S. government’s ability to pay its debts in good currency, right? The U.S. had floated its currency free of the gold standard in 1971 – the cash was good for.... more cash, not gold or silver. The gold was .... just for show.
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MK: They had to steal the gold in order to be able to get Americans (and others dependent upon their fiat currency. Also, they did not want Americans to have any gold when they brought the hammer down on the dollar. One reason that the Rockefellers pushed for a departure from gold is that the City of London (which belongs to the Roths) used gold to delay the Rocks taking over everything after World War II. In "The War on the Dollar," Dr. Beter explains a lot of this stuff so does Webster Tarpley on his website. The truth is that if we want to get rid of banksters, we need to move away from a set currency and monetize all valuables in a way that facillitates trade. I have a friend who had a brilliant idea on this front.
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And – get this – we’ve got a foolproof way to loot those bricks of all that yummy gold content – and no one will be the wiser, because there they will sit, numbered, inventoried, traced and secure in Fort Knox. Who will ever think to question that? And our black ops need funding, untraceable funding. Our criminals want payment in gold. Those bloody banana dictators want gold. So.....

Whoever manufactured the tungsten blanks wouldn’t necessarily know what they were for. And whoever plated them (in the Philippines?) wouldn’t ask any questions; it was a top secret operation. Or maybe they were all, umm, “horizontalized” after finishing their work. Wouldn’t be the first time, eh, boys?

And perhaps no one in charge of Fort Knox ever knew anything was wrong. The numbered bars left the vault in secure U.S. Gov’t custody and returned the same way. They were under orders not to assay them. So....


But times have changed. China, India and others have a long history in banking and witnessing the rise and fall of civilizations. They believe in gold and now want some solid “security” in exchange for continuing to buy Treasury debt – which is looking increasingly flaky as an investment to any rational observer. Rather than accept the U.S.’s assurance that the gold was in safe deposit – they took delivery. And, being old hands at the game, did some ordinary random testing....

Cheers,

Selene

Don, thanks as always for your reply.
But I disagree.
We are not someone else's puppets. I don't give a *** about what some 'prophet' centuries ago says.... They are dead and gone. Prophets are dead. Let's look instead at what is going on here, nevermind the old books!

Don this is why we all get along here. We all have a simular background and see things from that prospective. On a personal note , I was interested in the third reich and read Hitlers book as far back as 1957. Also most of Oashpe, and the Urantia book in 1960. To this day I collect German stamps, which is a history. But as time went on, I discovered that things were not right and certantly were not as we were told they are. End results, were all here on The Golden Thread pointing out what seems to be!

Just a simple Hypothetical question...

If you have some time (months), before an ELE event,

What Item of the actual civilization you will preserve for the Aftertime?

and why?

Thank you...

Fair enough Steph, but I don't see where I said we are all someone else's puppets; many of our elitist overlords (for lack of a better term to descrive those that set policy at the higher echelons of the power structure, such as the kind of programming a cable news channel will broadcast and how much to charge the citizenry for securing their potential health problems - i.e. Big Pharma and Big Health Insurance - not to mention public education agendas, etc.) have had entre [in my opinion] to those ETs who have made their existence known to these corpulent humans that eagerly elect to follow the 'advice' given by these aliens (who, incidentally, were then circumscribed from even further rebellious contact with us). Some of the more ahem "opportunistic" of us also gladly volunteer our services to serve as spokespeople of a particular POV that's coinky-dink what we think is 'good' (and pays well). These are politicians by any other name, and are given funding to get elected. In return, for having whored their political skills out, they are kept comfortable and in office. 'Traitor Joe' Lieberman is one such fraud, but don't let me get started, because I couldn't finish with just him.

I also don't advocate trusting a centuries-old admonishment more than what current events show my eyes. One thing "old books" do is describe what's gone on before, so as to help to understand what to expect. That's called "advice", not "stick your head in the sands of golden ages gone before". Having said that, by all means bring on the current state of affairs. What IS that in the SOHO? Can we get an alternate view, please? WTF are these, pray tell?




What is that bright flash at the left on Stereo Ahead? Happened on 12/11 14:39 and last 12/03 at 20:54 too.
http://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/brows ... _d4c2A.jpg
And guess what. It is not updating. No shock there! Last updated 14:39 when this appeared, while others are on 17:39.

Bear in mind that the Planet X persona you are seeing is not close to the Sun but halfway between the Sun and the Stereo Ahead satellite. Thus, any movement in the tail is captured and looks larger in perspective than it would if it were close to the Sun, at a greater distance. Moons in the Moon Swirls might catch a glint from sunlight, and be captured on film. Certainly the dust cloud can cast a reflection, looking like a flare. What other explanation is there for such sudden flares in the images?

So what do you think is going on, Steph?

I really don't think we have a dead cert, clear picture of exactly what the state of play is between ETs (of apparently various factions/sources) and our puppet masters here on Earth. Or who exactly has the upper hand, if anyone, among them. It's like a fractured picture where we can glean snippets and get insights but are not party to it all so can only surmise and debate over it.

.......

I'm not 'putting all my eggs' in anyone's basket (not Nancy Leider, not Source A, not any 'Charlie' from the future or Aspen the channelled Andromendan speaking through Bob the builder in Essex!) That's important I think, not to buy anyone's scenario because we just don't know if we're honest with ourselves. I hope it will become clear in time. I just urge caution in examining the stuff we discover and are fed, because (so far) there has been no infallible source that is beyond 100% question. Certainly not the Zetas of Nancy and certainly not any government agency. Maybe Bob the builder would make more sense, come to think of it!

What other explanation is there for such sudden flares in the images?

Posted: Friday , Dec 18, 2009 at 0338 hrs
New Delhi:
Heard about the monster planet ‘X’ heading towards Earth at a speed of 20,00,000 miles a year and could hit anytime after 2010? Our MPs have.

On Thursday, this was one of the questions they posed to the government, which found itself at a loss for answers.

An unstarred question put up by Rajya Sabha MPs Rajkumar Dhoot (Shiv Sena) and Naresh Gujral (Shiromani Akali Dal) asked, “Whether it is a fact that planet ‘X’ is heading towards Earth at a speed of 20,00,000 miles a year and may come close or collide with it anytime after 2010 to cause destruction like earthquake and tsunami?”

Apart from details, they wanted the government to enlighten them whether this had any links with the Mayan civilisation calendar and whether the Government was taking any preventive steps.

Minister of State for Science and Technology Prithviraj Chavan’s reply was brief: “There is no factual basis for this (question).”

... contd.

Hi, MK –

Thanks for your comments on the tungsten gold. It certainly makes for quite a whodunit, doesn’t it?

That being said, there is precious little real information about who, what and when the switch was made. All we do know is it began sometime after 1954 (last audit) but before 1984 (news story) when the first “good” fakes were found. Other than that, we have only rumor and speculation. I suspect that like most financial frauds or embezzlements the scam started small, as a “temporary” measure. But when no one noticed, it became bolder over time.

The gold in Fort Knox is technically the property of the U.S. Gov’t, making it more likely the target/access of military or political theft. The gold in the Manhattan depository is held by the Federal Reserve, the private Roth entity – a more likely candidate for raiding by a competing Rockefeller entity, perhaps. A wonderful armchair puzzle, (unless you happen to be holding one of these suspect bars in your own vault, LOL!)

And, just as an historical note for the truly obsessive, while the Rothschilds are indeed an intelligent group, they cannot be credited with having invented fractional reserve banking. That honor must go to the Knights Templar in the twelfth century, along with their creation of letters of credit for travelling pilgrims. The practice was well established by the late Middle Ages among the gold merchants of Amsterdam, then the financial center of Europe.

At any rate, stay tuned. I can’t wait to see what kind of “official explanation” they’ll come up with when the extent of this scam can no longer be denied…..



Cheers,

Selene

Where has it all gone?
Where has it all gone?

Hi, Ferret!

Well said! My sentiments exactly:



Cheers,

Selene

Soyuz TMA-17 launch - December 20, 2009

На площадке 17 космодрома Байконур, в Испытательном учебно-тренировочном комплексе НИИ ЦПК им. Ю.А.Гагарина, продолжается подготовка основного (О.Котов, Т.Кример, С.Ногучи) и дублирующего (А.Шкаплеров, Д.Уилок, С.Фурукава) экипажей транспортного пилотируемого корабля «Союз ТМА-17», старт которого к Международной космической станции запланирован на 21 декабря с.г.

O.K.

Its a Brown Dwarf that was captured by our Solar System and that looks like a white reddish Cross in the Sky in the Stereo Ahead COR2 Images...and in the most recent pictures taken on the 2009.12.18 by these system here:

http://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/brows ... nail.shtml

But others would contest you on this.

Do you get what I'm saying?
I don't know. Do you know? Neither of us know.

Stop, look, yes, listen to your heart
Hear what it's sayin'

Publisert 18.12.2009 kl 23:49 Oppdatert 19.12.2009 kl 00:05

– Pilarer, eller Halo, kaller vi det. Det er iskrystaller som ikke går i alle retninger, men som peker samme vei og dermed sender lysrefleksjonene samme vei, sier statsmeteorolog John Smits ved Meteorologisk institutt til rb.no.