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Welcome to the continuation of the Golden Thread, Volume 2009 5.0
All are welcome so long as the Golden Rule is observed among the participants.

This is the search for the 'truth' and Disclosure, that all men (and women, and children) that so desire learn the full and examined truth of the 'extraterrestrial reality' as it is known.

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Sharks in SO-CAL a eq precursor?
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The latest sighting took place on Saturday, October 3, 2009 when Randy Wright, who was kayaking 320 yards off the coast, spotted what appeared to be a great white shark jump completely out of the water. Wright was able to capture several photographs of the incident.

Wright says he had been in the water for about an hour and a half and had spotted several dolphins in the area. But, it's what happened next that caught his attention. "I heard a large swooshing noise just east of my position in the direction of the Bel Air Bay Club. I grabbed my camera... I fired off four shots of something. I wasn't sure -- it was airborne and then splashing," Wright wrote of his experience. He was shocked when he saw what he caught with his camera. The photographs show a great white shark, believed to be 8-10 feet long, in mid-air, experts say."

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That is bizarre..

Southern California does have a Sea Lion problem though. They're number one preditiors are Killer Whales (Orcas) So it looks like the Great Whites may be attracted as well.

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Sharks in SO-CAL a eq precursor?
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The latest sighting took place on Saturday, October 3, 2009 when Randy Wright, who was kayaking 320 yards off the coast, spotted what appeared to be a great white shark jump completely out of the water. Wright was able to capture several photographs of the incident.

Wright says he had been in the water for about an hour and a half and had spotted several dolphins in the area. But, it's what happened next that caught his attention. "I heard a large swooshing noise just east of my position in the direction of the Bel Air Bay Club. I grabbed my camera... I fired off four shots of something. I wasn't sure -- it was airborne and then splashing," Wright wrote of his experience. He was shocked when he saw what he caught with his camera. The photographs show a great white shark, believed to be 8-10 feet long, in mid-air, experts say."

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Doctors Concerned FluMist Vaccine Could Spread Live H1N1 Virus

With 60 per cent of the U.S. population at risk, is swine flu nasal spray a pandemic waiting to happen?

Paul Joseph Watson
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Tuesday, October 6, 2009

Doctors and hospitals are expressing concern that the FluMist vaccine could endanger people because it contains live H1N1 virus, unlike the injectable shot that contains antibodies. With no less than 60 per cent of the U.S. population immunodeficient in one way or another, could FluMist be a pandemic waiting to happen?

Hospitals in Colorado and elsewhere are shunning the FluMist H1N1 vaccine, a nasal spray that contains live swine flu virus, because of fears it could infect people with weakened immune systems and underlying health conditions.

“Several metro area hospitals said they won’t be taking the FluMist because they don’t want to endanger patients,” reports TheDenverChannel.com.

Lois VanFleet, infection prevention specialist at Exempla Good Samaritan Medical Center in Lafayette, expressed concern that doctors and nurses who inhaled the live virus could infect patients whose immune systems are compromised.

However, H1N1 FluMist is being rolled out nationwide from this week, including at “drive-through clinics” across the country where the nasal spray is administered while people sit in their cars with their window wide open (see top picture).

The live virus contained in the nasal spray is weakened but it can be transmitted from person to person for up to three weeks.

According to studies, “the odds of transmitting the virus after receiving the nasal spray are about 2.5 percent,” with children the most susceptible.

The nasal spray is being rolled out on a mass scale before the widespread introduction of the injectable vaccine. Some fear that the nasal spray will contribute to a wider pandemic, which will then provide governments with the crisis they need to make the injectable vaccine mandatory.

“This would accelerate the move to a state of emergency, cripple the US health care system, and would result in the “need” to have military, eventually UN troops, take control,” notes TheFluCase.com.

“Also, all public assemblies, including courts, would be prohibited, thereby satisfying a condition for the imposition of martial law, mass quarantines, and forced vaccinations for the rest of us.”

“It has been documented that the live viruses from the vaccine can be shed (and potentially spread into the community) from recipient children for up to 21 days, and even longer from adults. Viral shedding also puts breastfeeding infants at risk if the mother has been given FluMist,” writes Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, one of the most outspoken physicians in the country on the hazards of vaccines and vaccination.

FluMist’s own package insert reads as follows, “FluMist® recipients should avoid close contact with immunocompromised individuals for at least 21 days.”

“The warning is specifically directed toward those living in the same household with an immunocompromised person, but the on-going release of live viruses throughout the community may be a significant risk to everyone who has a weak, or weakened, immune system,” writes Tenpenny, pointing out that if one takes into account a plethora of health conditions that could be classified as contributing to immunodeficiency, as much as 60% of the entire population could be considered to be “chemically immunosuppressed.”

“An ever greater concern about FluMist is the contents within the vaccine. Each 0.5ml of the formula contains 10 6.5-7.5 particles of live, attenuated influenza virus. That means that between 10 million and 100 million viral particles will be forcefully injected into the nostrils when administered. The viral strain was developed by serial passage through “specific pathogen-free primary chick kidney cells” and then grown in “specific pathogen-free eggs.” That means that the culture media was free of pathogens that were specifically tested for, but not a culture that was necessarily “pathogen-free.” The risk that the vaccine may contain contaminant avian retroviruses still remains,” warns Tenpenny.

One of the pharmaceutical companies developing nasal spray vaccines is Baxter International, who were caught earlier this year releasing batches of vaccines from a lab in Austria that were contaminated live bird flu virus, otherwise known as H5N1.

The video below outlines further concerns regarding FluMist and the nasal spray vaccine in general.


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Imagine a world where medicine is guaranteed not to cause adverse reactions because it's designed for an individual's DNA.

Imagine a diet tailored to the precise speed of a person's metabolism. Using a little microelectronics, a little physics, and no small dose of biology, IBM has brought that futuristic world a little bit closer.

The DNA Transistor is a project from IBM Research that aims to advance personalized medicine, by making it simpler (and much cheaper) to read an individual's unique DNA sequence — the special combination of proteins that makes you unlike anyone else.

The technology isn't finished yet, but its potential is tantalizin enough that IBM wanted to share it with the world. And the company claims researchers are making progress.

Essentially a bar code reader for genes, the DNA Transistor is part technique and part device. It consists of a 3-nanometer wide hole, known as a nanopore, in a silicon microchip. A sensor in the pore can read DNA and determine its unique makeup.

The challenge scientists face is controlling the rate at which a strand moves through that nanopore: A DNA molecule needs to spend enough time in it for the sequencing to work. By cycling voltages to the transistor's poles, IBM aims to move the DNA through the nanopore at a consistent rate one nucleotide (molecule of DNA) at a time.

The company's researchers are currently investigating various housings for the pore as well, honing the multilayer (metal and dielectric) nano-structures to move samples through more evenly.

“The technologies that make reading DNA fast, cheap and widely available have the potential to revolutionize bio-medical research and herald an era of personalized medicine,” said IBM research scientist Gustavo Stolovitzky. “Ultimately, it could improve the quality of medical care by identifying patients who will gain the greatest benefit from a particular medicine and those who are most at risk of adverse reaction.”


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Prince Philip, In His Own Words: We Need To 'Cull' The Surplus Population (The New Federalist and The American Almanac)
His Royal Virus


* Reported by Deutsche Press Agentur (DPA), August, 1988.

In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation.

* Prince Philip, in his Foreward to If I Were an Animal; United Kingdom, Robin Clark Ltd., 1986.

I just wonder what it would be like to be reincarnated in an animal whose species had been so reduced in numbers than it was in danger of extinction. What would be its feelings toward the human species whose population explosion had denied it somewhere to exist.... I must confess that I am tempted to ask for reincarnation as a particularly deadly virus.

* Press conference at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C. on the occasion of the ``Caring for Creation'' conference of the North American Conference on Religion and Ecology, May 18, 1990.

It is now apparent that the ecological pragmatism of the so-called pagan religions, such as that of the American Indians, the Polynesians, and the Australian Aborigines, was a great deal more realistic in terms of conservation ethics than the more intellectual monotheistic philosophies of the revealed religions.

* Address on Receiving Honorary Degree from the University of Western Ontario, Canada, July 1, 1983.

For example, the World Health Organization Project, designed to eradicate malaria from Sri Lanka in the postwar years, achieved its purpose. But the problem today is that Sri Lanka must feed three times as many mouths, find three times as many jobs, provide three times the housing, energy, schools, hospitals and land for settlement in order to maintain the same standards. Little wonder the natural environment and wildlife in Sri Lanka has suffered. The fact [is] ... that the best-intentioned aid programs are at least partially responsible for the problems.

* Preface to Down to Earth by HRH Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, 1988, p.|8.

I don't claim to have any special interest in natural history, but as a boy I was made aware of the annual fluctuations in the number of game animals and the need to adjust the ``cull'' to the size of the surplus population.

* Lecture to the European Council of International Schools. Montreaux, Switzerland, Nov. 14, 1986.

The great difficulty about ``life'' is that we humans are part of it, and it is therefore almost impossible to study objectively.... It therefore tends to be anthropocentric and gives scant attention to the welfare of all the other life-forms which share this planet with us.

...|When the Bible says that man shall have ``dominion'' over God's creation, the choice is between understanding dominion as in ``having power over,'' or dominion as ``having responsibility for.''

Don't Interfere with the Balance of Nature

Once you have interfered with the balance of nature it becomes necessary to maintain the balance by artificial means. This means that some animals have to be killed in the interest of maintaining the health and viability of the species as a whole as well as the benefit of other more vulnerable species. Unfortunately there are many people who object to that sort of thing.

Ecology is not concerned with the fate of individual animals. It accepts the concept of the exploitation of surplus natural resources because that is in the way the natural system works, but it must always be done on the principle of maintaining a sustainable yield.... The inexorable rule of nature is that if you mess up your environment you will have to pay a heavy price sooner or later.... Just look around the globe today and you cannot fail to notice areas which at one time supported highly successful and civilized populations are either deserts or they have reverted to jungle. The reason is quite simple: they over-exploited their natural resources and they paid the price. It is naive to think that we can escape the same fate for very much longer. We are only managing to put off the evil hour by frantically digging up and using mineral resources that can never be renewed. As if that were not enough, we are polluting the atmosphere, the land and the waters with every kind of noxious substance. The ``greenhouse effect'' alone could well have devastating consequences for all life on earth.

This is a reflection of the duality of man's brain. The left brain produces the reasonable answers after objective scientific research, while the right brain prefers the acceptable and the emotionally satisfactory answers. How often do people say, ``That may be so, but I prefer to `believe' or I like to believe ... this, that or the other''?

The duality of the brain has created great problems for modern man.... It is ... significant that successful engineering makes money. This is in stark contrast to the supernatural, whether it is religious or mythological. In the latter cases the truth may be equally certain, but it is not verifiable, and the outcome of following rules is seldom predictable. It is, of course, possible to exploit magic and mythology commercially, but it could hardly be described as a manufacturing industry....

There is an understandable public pressure for schools and colleges to concentrate on utilitarian subjects to the exclusion of cultural and aesthetic development. In other words, the development of the left brain is given a great deal more attention than that of the right brain.... The trouble is that neglect of the development of the right brain leaves it in a state of vacuum.... This means that the right brain is ready to absorb the first plausible ideas it happens across. The occult, obscure religious rites, parapsychology, astrology and similar attractive but irrational notions are sucked into the vacant space without any discrimination or critical faculty.... I also suspect that the use of drugs might be seen as a substitute, or short cut, to filling the vacuum of the right brain....

I mention all this because man's attitude to nature is partly a function of the left brain and partly a function of the right brain. It is easy enough to encourage an emotional concern for nature and the living world.... Everyone can comprehend the idea of cruelty, very few can comprehend the extinction of a species.

"Conflict Between Instinct and Reason"

* Fawley Foundation Lecture. Southampton University, Nov. 24, 1967.

The conflict between instinct and reason has reached a critical stage in man's affairs, largely because the explosion of facts has revealed the instincts for what they are and at the same time it has undermined traditional philosophies and ideologies. The explosion of facts has effectively altered mankind's physical and intellectual environment and when any environment changes, the process of natural selection is brutal and merciless. ``Adapt or die'' is as true today as it was in the beginning.

* Introduction to ``Exploitation of the Natural System'' section of Down to Earth by HRH Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, 1988.

It took about three and a half billion years for life on earth to reach the state of complexity and diversity that our ancestors knew as recently as 200 years ago. It has only taken industrial and scientific man those 200 years to put at risk the whole of the world's natural system. It has been estimated that by the year 2000, some 300,000 species of plants and animals will have become extinct, and that the natural economy, upon which all life depends, will have been seriously disrupted.

The paradox is that this will have been achieved with the best possible intentions. The human population must be properly fed, human life must be preserved and human existence must be made safer and more comfortable. All these things are obviously highly desirable, but if their achievement means putting the survival of future generations at risk, then there is a pressing obligation on present generations to apply some measure of self-restraint.

* Address to Edinburgh University Union, Nov. 24 1969.

We talk about over- and underdeveloped countries; I think a more exact division might be between underdeveloped and overpopulated. The more people there are, the more industry and more waste and the more sewage there is, and therefore the more pollution.

* The Fairfield Osborne Lecture, New York, Oct. 1 1980.

If the world pollution situation is not critical at the moment, it is as certain as anything can be that the situation will become increasingly intolerable within a very short time. The situation can be controlled, and even reversed; but it demands cooperation on a scale and intensity beyond anything achieved so far.

I realize that there are vital causes to be fought for, and I sympathize with people who work up a passionate concern about the all too many examples of inhumanity, injustice, and unfairness; but behind all this hangs a deadly cloud. Still largely unnoticed and unrecognized, the process of destroying our natural environment is gathering speed and momentum. If we fail to cope with the challenge, the other problems will pale into insignificance.

* Introduction to ``The Population Factor'' section of Down to Earth by HRH Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, 1988.

What has been described as the ``balance of nature'' is simply nature's system of self-limitation. Fertility and breeding success create the surpluses after allowing for the replacement of the losses. Predation, climatic variation, disease, starvation--and in the case of the inappropriately named Homo sapiens, wars and terrorism--are the principal means by which population numbers are kept under some sort of control.

Viewed dispassionately, it must be obvious that the world's human population has grown to such a size that it is threatening its own habitat; and it has already succeeded in causing the extinction of large numbers of wild plant and animal species. Some have simply been killed off. Others have quietly disappeared, as their habitats have been taken over or disturbed by human activities.

Humans are the Greatest Threat to Survival

* Interview with HRH Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, in People Dec. 21, 1981 titled ``Vanishing Breeds Worry Prince Philip, But Not as Much as Overpopulation.''

Q: What do you consider the leading threat to the environment?

A: Human population growth is probably the single most serious long-term threat to survival. We're in for a major disaster if it isn't curbed--not just for the natural world, but for the human world. The more people there are, the more resources they'll consume, the more pollution they'll create, the more fighting they will do. We have no option. If it isn't controlled voluntarily, it will be controlled involuntarily by an increase in disease, starvation and war.

* Address to the Joint Meeting of the All-Party Group on Population and Development and the All-Party Conservation Committee in London, March 11, 1987.

I do believe ... that human population pressure--the sheer number of people on this planet--is the single most important cause of the degradation of the natural environment, of the progressive extinction of wild species of plants and animals, and of the destabilization of the world's climatic and atmospheric systems.


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Public release date: 6-Oct-2009

Contact: Glenn Harris
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Communicating person to person through the power of thought alone



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New research from the University of Southampton has demonstrated that it is possible for communication from person to person through the power of thought alone.

Brain-Computer Interfacing (BCI) can be used for capturing brain signals and translating them into commands that allow humans to control (just by thinking) devices such as computers, robots, rehabilitation technology and virtual reality environments.

This experiment goes a step further and was conducted by Dr Christopher James from the University's Institute of Sound and Vibration Research. The aim was to expand the current limits of this technology and show that brain-to-brain (B2B) communication is possible.

Dr James comments: "Whilst BCI is no longer a new thing and person to person communication via the nervous system was shown previously in work by Professor Kevin Warwick from the University of Reading, here we show, for the first time, true brain to brain interfacing. We have yet to grasp the full implications of this but there are various scenarios where B2B could be of benefit such as helping people with severe debilitating muscle wasting diseases, or with the so-called 'locked-in' syndrome, to communicate and it also has applications for gaming."

His experiment had one person using BCI to transmit thoughts, translated as a series of binary digits, over the internet to another person whose computer receives the digits and transmits them to the second user's brain through flashing an LED lamp.

While attached to an EEG amplifier, the first person would generate and transmit a series of binary digits, imagining moving their left arm for zero and their right arm for one. The second person was also attached to an EEG amplifier and their PC would pick up the stream of binary digits and flash an LED lamp at two different frequencies, one for zero and the other one for one. The pattern of the flashing LEDS is too subtle to be picked by the second person, but it is picked up by electrodes measuring the visual cortex of the recipient.

The encoded information is then extracted from the brain activity of the second user and the PC can decipher whether a zero or a one was transmitted. This shows true brain-to-brain activity.

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You can watch Dr James' BCI experiment at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93p7oDkA5WA

Dr James is part of the University of Southampton's Brain-Computer Interfacing Research Programme, which brings together biomedical engineering and the clinical sciences and provides a cohesive scientific basis for rehabilitation research and management. Projects are driven by clinical problems, using cutting-edge signal processing research to produce an investigative tool for advancing knowledge of neurophysiological mechanisms, as well as providing a practical therapeutic system to be used outside a specialised BCI laboratory.

Dr James also appeared on BBC2's 'James May's Big Ideas' last year, talking about thought controlled wheelchairs and introducing the field of BCI. You can view the segment here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyrd0uOu ... re=related


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I am quoting Dex's last post here as I believe it to be significant (sorry UncleJohn) but most would have missed it as it is now in the Archive in volume 4.9...

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Subject: Woman Meets 14 Extraterrestrials.
Sept. 30, 2009.

This is from a UFO investigation group in Mexico.

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The Journal of Hispanic Ufology

September 28, 2009

Source: Popular On-Line

http://www.popularonline.com.ar/nota.php?Nota=3D413256

Date: 09.28.09

Argentina: Woman Visited by 14 "Extraterrestrials"

The event occurred at a house in Florencio Varela and
the case promises to have worldwide repercussions.
They were fourteen aliens in total. Suddenly, in the
middle of the night, they were surrounding the bed she
shared with her husband and small daughter. They looked
at her silently, and at no moment did she feel fear.
She wanted to wake up her husband, to have him witness
what was occurring before her very eyes, but the
Vistors advised her telepathically that he would remain
asleep, as he was still not yet ready. Then, the beings
revealed all of their secrets to her during a 40 minute
time period. This is a "contact" experience between a
young woman from the town of Florencio Varela and a
group of aliens - a case whose mysterious elements have
the research community on tenterhooks, and promises to
become known worldwide.

The entire episode forms part of an impressive
investigation undertaken by the renowned founders of
Grupo OVNI - Jorge Marron and Daniel Valverdi - who
managed to secure an interview last week with the young
woman, 23, who lives in a house in Florencio Varela
along with her husband and child. "The case is
currently under investigation and the analyses have not
yet been completed. We are working with a
multi-disciplinary team of experts who have contributed
their manpower to unravel the case. As we can tell
right now, it is 90% true," Valverdi told Expedientes
Secretos.

"Karina" is the name of the protagonist, and the
story is truly enthralling. Among other revelations,
she said that the aliens visit our planet on six-month
rotations, and are replaced by a new group. They also
explained that the circles and shapes that appear on
the fields are signals they employ among themselves,
and finally explained that there are dozens of
civilizations from other planets that come down and
interact on Earth to study it (and surely to study us).

"I never had an experience of this sort. It happened
two and a half months ago. We were in bed - my husband,
my baby and me. They were asleep and I was trying to
fall asleep. Suddenly I felt lights, and when I opened
my eyes there was nothing there. I closed my eyes
again, and the same thing happened. Like a flash of
light. I opened my eyes, but all I could see was the
[pilot light] on the stove," explained Karina, on audio
recordings broadcast on the Codigo OVNI radio show (FM
Apuntes, Mondays, 22:00 hrs.)

"The fourth time that this happened, I felt it
closer. I opened my eyes and saw the beings standing
beside me. I was lying between my husband and my
daughter. I uncovered myself and sat up. They were
around the bed, fourteen of them, all of them short
except for one: this last one was beside my husband,
staring at him fixedly. The small ones were all around,
and measured 1.30 meters or so. They were slightly
taller than my bed's sommier, which is rather tall,"
said the young woman.

In her description of the events to researches Marron
and Valverdi, the witness explained that she tried to
wake her husband, but was unable to do so.
"I even dug my nails into him, but nothing. The baby
was on the other side, on her stomach, but neither of
them reacted. At that time, one of the beings told me
not to wake up my husband, because he was not ready. I
realize that they spoke to me telepathically, and I
could answer them in the same way," Karina explained.

They were practically alike. The only difference was
the height of one of their number. They were skinny,
with long necks and small heads. Their eyes were black,
like almonds, slanted, and their mouths were also
small. They had little wrinkles on their face and the
head was oval. They had shoulders; their fingers were
long and had no nails," described the woman, who was
standing beside a group of aliens who touched her hair,
the palms of her hands and lifted one of her arms."

"Five of them were on the left, four facing me and
five on the right side of the bed. I was the only one
who wasn't paralyzed. We communicated for some 40
minutes, mouths closed. That is to say, I spoke by my
mouth didn't move. I managed to touch one of the little
ones, and he touched my face. I just felt the need to
touch him, and in fact I felt peaceful in their
company.
I never had the impression that they could harm my
daughter or any one of us," Karina insists.

"Suddenly he made a movement (sic)," said the
witness. "He touched me with two fingers, and finally
brushed a finger along my forehead. They told me they
had come to give me answers about a black book (the
Bible) and that what I was thinking was in fact true.
When I asked them a question, they told me everything,
with details."

In her conversation with the researchers, Karina
stated "the tall one was looking at my husband all the
time. His head was slightly smaller than the others,
because the small ones had rather larger heads. It felt
like touching a baby's skin - they had little wrinkles,
but I couldn't feel them when I touched one of them.
The skin was cold and the color was odd, neither white
nor gray. They had a skin tone that doesn't exist
here."

(Translation (c) 2009, S. Corrales, IHU. Special
thanks to Guillermo Gimenez, Planeta UFO, and Jorge
Marrn and Daniel Valverdi, Grupo OVNI)

John Winston. johnfw@mlode.com


IMO this is significant because of the mention of "They told me they had come to give me answers about a black book (the Bible) and that what I was thinking was in fact true."

We were made in the "Image and Similitude" of the Creator (aka the Adam Kadmon template) and it is well known with the fall of Adam (the fall of human consciousness our present state) humanity was cut-off from their Similitude. This to me means that we were cut off from our special abilities and remain behind the veil. So the mention in this contact of the black book will be very interesting when eventually revealed. I certainly believe that ET's "need" humanity in some way, as we have what it takes to become fully enlightened again, and this is not available to the general ET that have lost their ability to evolve Spiritually. Does this mean their ability to receive Light from on High to sustain them had been lost? What were they trying to bring to our attention?

Certainly holds interesting potential for humanities near future as this final chapter of the current epoch of history closes out and we move closer to our final eschatology on Earth. The coming end of the final experiment. The End of Days.... :idea: :?:

Please keep us up to date on this Dex.

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Bar codes reputadly have the 666 as capture sequence framing in all codes. So, go figure?

See: http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/barcodes/index1.htm

What are your trying to imprint in the psyche Google?

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There was a television show in Russia about NIBIRU. It is all in Russian. The only things that I understood were catastrophe, Nibiru and solar system. Anybody know Russian? Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Axpxok3f0VU

Bloomberg reported that banks are using the excuse that processing is keeping deposits from being credited to bank balances, but that probably is not the true reason. Another source reported that the Irish referendum was fixed to give the EU a chance to try to impose its will on the public there. From the English seeking a vote to overturn their membership to the Czechs who are not part of it yet, the EU has problems already.

Also, there were more earthquakes than reported. They are in the ring of fire as well as along a fault line from the ring through South America. The USGS is not reporting the full extent of the activity. It is enormous! Russia's swine flu tracker (link is on godlikeproductions site) shows that not only are there very few cases, but the death total is not as large as western media reports. Here's the real shocker. There are virtually no cases in Russia and its satellites.


MK - please give links to this info - can only find USGS data
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Also, there were more earthquakes than reported. They are in the ring of fire as well as along a fault line from the ring through South America. The USGS is not reporting the full extent of the activity. It is enormous!


i got this list of 357 eq events > 4 mag:



Code:
DATE LAT LON MAG DEPTH km REGION
05-OCT-2009 12:51:02 -0.82 99.84 4.9 91.1 SOUTHERN SUMATERA, INDONESIA
05-OCT-2009 12:46:37 -16.93 -172.40 4.8 10.0 SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
05-OCT-2009 09:22:50 -16.28 -173.07 5.0 10.0 TONGA ISLANDS
05-OCT-2009 08:28:47 -16.19 -174.15 4.7 10.0 TONGA ISLANDS
05-OCT-2009 07:12:34 -15.99 -171.92 4.6 10.0 SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
05-OCT-2009 06:06:20 30.20 140.39 4.5 172.9 SOUTH OF HONSHU, JAPAN
05-OCT-2009 05:51:21 46.38 -27.37 4.8 10.0 NORTHERN MID-ATLANTIC RIDGE
05-OCT-2009 00:35:12 42.60 141.47 5.0 10.0 HOKKAIDO, JAPAN REGION

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recall15 wrote:


i got this list of 357 eq events > 4 mag:



Code:
DATE LAT LON MAG DEPTH km REGION
05-OCT-2009 12:51:02 -0.82 99.84 4.9 91.1 SOUTHERN SUMATERA, INDONESIA
05-OCT-2009 12:46:37 -16.93 -172.40 4.8 10.0 SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
05-OCT-2009 09:22:50 -16.28 -173.07 5.0 10.0 TONGA ISLANDS
05-OCT-2009 08:28:47 -16.19 -174.15 4.7 10.0 TONGA ISLANDS
05-OCT-2009 07:12:34 -15.99 -171.92 4.6 10.0 SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
05-OCT-2009 06:06:20 30.20 140.39 4.5 172.9 SOUTH OF HONSHU, JAPAN
05-OCT-2009 05:51:21 46.38 -27.37 4.8 10.0 NORTHERN MID-ATLANTIC RIDGE
05-OCT-2009 00:35:12 42.60 141.47 5.0 10.0 HOKKAIDO, JAPAN REGION

from:
http://www.iris.edu/seismon


Aaah yes - thanks!
from there you can read Wilbur
http://www.iris.edu/cgi-bin/wilberII/wilberII_page2.pl





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Events within 5° distance of selected Lat: 45.25° Lon: 234.84° for the last 90 days
DATE TIME SOURCE MAG LAT LON DEPTH DESCRIPTION
2009/07/10 00:31:27.6 SPYDER® 5.1 44.55 -129.83 26.60 OFF COAST OF OREGON
2009/08/07 10:49:34.0 SPYDER® 4.9 40.32 -124.63 16.40 NEAR COAST OF NORTHERN CALIF.
2009/08/29 10:11:17.5 SPYDER® 5.2 43.94 -128.46 10.00 OFF COAST OF OREGON
2009/08/29 13:06:01.4 SPYDER® 4.8 44.09 -127.97 42.60 OFF COAST OF OREGON
2009/10/02 09:17:11.4 SPYDER® 4.5 40.43 -126.63 10.00 OFF COAST OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
Total of 5 distinct events
Please select an event in the list to:

view detailed information
generate requests for data from that event.


Whether the magnitude reports are 'accurate' would need to have comparisons from other data sources.

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Going by the Old Pre-Christian Calendar of Europe (Which btw was Lunar not Solar based and consisted of 28 day, 13 months) October 15th - November 15th was Called the Month of Ghosts (Spirits) and ended with Nov 15th Night of Bonfires to honor the Spirits of Ancestry that walked the land..

After the minor Christian calender change over this became "All Soul's Night" or today Halloween..

In the Spirit of Halloween a Great story out of Germany!


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http://www.spiegel.de/international/zei ... 94,00.html


Menacing Bird at Large
Raven Detained for Stalking Woman Escapes Police

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A malevolent raven described by authorities as "incredibly clever" is back at large after escaping from police custody. The bird had been scaring a woman for several days by tapping at her window, trying to steal her groceries and sitting on her car.

A raven caught by police after it had been stalking a woman for several days has managed to escape by pecking its way out of a cardboard box and is at large again in the town of Weinsberg in south-western Germany, police said on Monday.

The woman complained to police that the bird had been terrorizing her by constantly tapping at her window, tearing open her shopping bags and sitting on her car menacingly. "The lady even claimed it had physically attacked her," Rainer Köller, a spokesman for the police in the nearby city of Heilbronn, told SPIEGEL ONLINE.

To prevent a real-life repeat of Alfred Hitchcock's horror classic "The Birds," officers were dispatched to check out the situation on Saturday. A neighbor helped them to lure the stalker into a box with some bird food and they took it to a local bird sanctuary.

But that wasn't the end of the story. "It has managed to escape," Köller said. "It's incredibly clever." Time will tell whether the raven will return to haunt its victim.

The bird has either taken a particular dislike to the woman, or it has a split personality, Köller said, explaining that the raven had got on well with its victim's neighbor. "The neighbor said the bird was always friendly to him and that he stroked and fed it," said Köller.

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* http://www.spiegel.de/international/zei ... 94,00.html

RELATED SPIEGEL ONLINE LINKS:

* Clever Ravens: Masters of Deceit (04/10/2007)
http://www.spiegel.de/international/spi ... 66,00.html
* Lobsters on the Run: Seafood Escapes from German Supermarket (10/22/2007)
http://www.spiegel.de/international/zei ... 94,00.html
* News in the Silly Season: Flying Rabbits, Violent Cows and Drowning Hedgehogs (08/13/2009)
http://www.spiegel.de/international/zei ... 12,00.html



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The Raven

Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pondered, weak and weary,
Over many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore--
While I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping,
As of some one gently rapping, rapping at my chamber door.
"'Tis some visiter," I muttered, "tapping at my chamber door--
Only this and nothing more."

Ah, distinctly I remember it was in the bleak December,
And each separate dying ember wrought its ghost upon the floor.
Eagerly I wished the morrow;--vainly I had sought to borrow
From my books surcease of sorrow--sorrow for the lost Lenore--
For the rare and radiant maiden whom the angels name Lenore--
Nameless here for evermore.

And the silken sad uncertain rustling of each purple curtain
Thrilled me--filled me with fantastic terrors never felt before;
So that now, to still the beating of my heart, I stood repeating
"'Tis some visiter entreating entrance at my chamber door--
Some late visiter entreating entrance at my chamber door;
This it is and nothing more."

Presently my soul grew stronger; hesitating then no longer,
"Sir," said I, "or Madam, truly your forgiveness I implore;
But the fact is I was napping, and so gently you came rapping,
And so faintly you came tapping, tapping at my chamber door,
That I scarce was sure I heard you"--here I opened wide the door--
Darkness there and nothing more.

Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there wondering, fearing,
Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortals ever dared to dream before;
But the silence was unbroken, and the stillness gave no token,
And the only word there spoken was the whispered word, "Lenore?"
This I whispered, and an echo murmured back the word, "Lenore!"--
Merely this and nothing more.

Back into the chamber turning, all my sour within me burning,
Soon again I heard a tapping something louder than before.
"Surely," said I, "surely that is something at my window lattice;
Let me see, then, what thereat is and this mystery explore--
Let my heart be still a moment and this mystery explore;--
'Tis the wind and nothing more.

Open here I flung the shutter, when, with many a flirt and flutter,
In there stepped a stately Raven of the saintly days of yore.
Not the least obeisance made he; not a minute stopped or stayed he,
But, with mien of lord or lady, perched above my chamber door--
Perched upon a bust of Pallas just above my chamber door--
Perched, and sat, and nothing more.

Then the ebony bird beguiling my sad fancy into smiling,
By the grave and stern decorum of the countenance it wore,
"Though thy crest be shorn and shaven, thou," I said, "art sure no craven,
Ghastly grim and ancient Raven wandering from the Nightly shore--
Tell me what thy lordly name is on the Night's Plutonian shore!"
Quoth the Raven, "Nevermore."

Much I marvelled this ungainly fowl to hear discourse so plainly,
Though its answer little meaning--little relevancy bore;
For we cannot help agreeing that no living human being
Ever yet was blessed with seeing bird above his chamber door--
Bird or beast upon the sculptured bust above his chamber door,
With such name as "Nevermore."

But the Raven, sitting lonely on that placid bust, spoke only
That one word, as if its soul in that one word he did outpour
Nothing farther then he uttered; not a feather then he fluttered--
Till I scarcely more than muttered: "Other friends have flown before--
On the morrow he will leave me, as my Hopes have flown before."
Then the bird said "Nevermore."

Startled at the stillness broken by reply so aptly spoken,
"Doubtless," said I, "what it utters is its only stock and store,
Caught from some unhappy master whom unmerciful Disaster
Followed fast and followed faster till his songs one burden bore--
Till the dirges of his Hope that melancholy burden bore
Of 'Never--nevermore.'"

But the Raven still beguiling all my sad soul into smiling,
Straight I wheeled a cushioned seat in front of bird and bust and door;
Then, upon the velvet sinking, I betook myself to linking
Fancy unto fancy, thinking what this ominous bird of yore--
What this grim, ungainly, ghastly, gaunt, and ominous bird of yore
Meant in croaking "Nevermore."

This I sat engaged in guessing, but no syllable expressing
To the fowl whose fiery eyes now burned into my bosom's core;
This and more I sat divining, with my head at ease reclining
On the cushion's velvet lining that the lamp-light gloated o'er,
But whose velvet violet lining with the lamp-light gloating o'er
She shall press, ah, nevermore!

Then, methought, the air grew denser, perfumed from an unseen censer
Swung by Seraphim whose foot-falls tinkled on the tufted floor.
"Wretch," I cried, "thy God hath lent thee--by these angels he hath sent thee
Respite--respite and nepenthe from thy memories of Lenore!
Quaff, oh quaff this kind nepenthe and forget this lost Lenore!"
Quoth the Raven, "Nevermore."

"Prophet!" said I, "thing of evil!--prophet still, if bird or devil!--
Whether Tempter sent, or whether tempest tossed thee here ashore,
Desolate, yet all undaunted, on this desert land enchanted--
On this home by Horror haunted--tell me truly, I implore--
Is there--is there balm in Gilead?--tell me--tell me, I implore!"
Quoth the Raven, "Nevermore."

"Prophet!" said I, "thing of evil!--prophet still, if bird or devil!
By that Heaven that bends above us--by that God we both adore--
Tell this soul with sorrow laden if, within the distant Aidenn,
It shall clasp a sainted maiden whom the angels name Lenore--
Clasp a rare and radiant maiden whom the angels name Lenore."
Quoth the Raven, "Nevermore."

"Be that word our sign of parting, bird or fiend!" I shrieked, upstarting--
"Get thee back into the tempest and the Night's Plutonian shore!
Leave no black plume as a token of that lie thy soul has spoken!
Leave my loneliness unbroken!--quit the bust above my door!
Take thy beak from out my heart, and take thy form from off my door!"
Quoth the Raven, "Nevermore."

And the Raven, never flitting, still is sitting, still is sitting
On the pallid bust of Pallas just above my chamber door;
And his eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming
And the lamp-light o'er him streaming throws his shadows on the floor;
And my soul from out that shadow that lies floating on the floor
Shall be lifted--nevermore!


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Also you may interesting in this database of 401 months

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MONTH SOURCE DESCRIPTION
Sep 1975 UVFARM ULP/VLP Monthly FARM Product
Oct 1975 UVFARM ULP/VLP Monthly FARM Product
Nov 1975 UVFARM ULP/VLP Monthly FARM Product
Dec 1975 UVFARM ULP/VLP Monthly FARM Product

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Apr 2009 UVFARM ULP/VLP Monthly FARM Product
May 2009 UVFARM ULP/VLP Monthly FARM Product
Jun 2009 UVFARM ULP/VLP Monthly FARM Product
Total of 401 monthly products



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Quantum Power from a Crystal Battery. This is the Zero Point power Module which our future will be based upon. No longer will we ever need to plug in, gas up or use any other power source. This is the future and the future cannot be stopped, abated, pushed aside or even avoided. We will see devices which no longer need batteries... EVER !

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... ECA&hl=en#

Couple this Zere Point battery with Time compression technology which I have not completely elaborated on, for my own safety sake and we have a power source which can deliver hundreds if not thousands of Mega Joules of energy in a few picoseconds. Imagine having your own gate technology and being able to gate where ever and and "When" ever you want. This is dangerous technology and in the wrong hand can create paradoxes which would destroy us.

We are living in a new age. An age of light, if we only embrace the future we can change what is to come.

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Now this, friends, must surely qualify as one of the freakiest videos ever: shot from the webcam of a police car on a high-speed chase, the car it's chasing appears to 'blink out' from view and then 'blink on' again. It then passes right through a solid chain link fence without disturbing the fence...! Must watch. If it weren't from the police, I'd never, ever believe this - but that's what makes webcams wonderful....


http://wimp.com/policechase/


Hyperdimensional drive, mebbe?

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Selene wrote:
Now this, friends, must surely qualify as one of the freakiest videos ever: shot from the webcam of a police car on a high-speed chase, the car it's chasing appears to 'blink out' from view and then 'blink on' again. It then passes right through a solid chain link fence without disturbing the fence...! Must watch. If it weren't from the police, I'd never, ever believe this - but that's what makes webcams wonderful....


http://wimp.com/policechase/


Hyperdimensional drive, mebbe?

Cheers,
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The "phantom" car and its driver certainly gave the police patrol car the runaround. From a distance at one stage of the pursuit, the car being chased looked like it was floating above the road, but I suppose that's the kind of illusory effect you get when there's not a lot of daylight around...or maybe it really was hovering, who knows. It'd have to be an old De Lorean (or a Robin Reliant ) to have a hyper-dimensional drive, Selene.

Seeing as All Hallows Eve is coming up, here's a link to a 41 minute documentary on ghosts and poltergeist activity. What's refreshing about it is that all the clips seem new (to me, anyway) and some of the best recorded ever to film and video. A word of caution though: not for the faint-hearted; the chap in the third still has a cord/mini-noose around his neck because a malevolent spirit put it there while he was in the attic and was going to hang him from a rafter.)

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The Ghost Car video (as it's listed at Youtube) is without out a doubt the freakiest paranormal video out there. An there is NO way a debunker or skeptics can debate it since its taken from the on board cam of a cop car.

If I had to speculate what it was. Its a MIB the real deal. Possibly gone rogue of malfuction of some sort.. Yet it was MIB.

Notice how in the video it was looking for a deserted or semi deserted road to engage its shall we say "device" to get away. It did not want to be seen engaging it thus the high speed chase an attempt to get into the clear before shall we say "taking off."

In one of the encounters we had with MIBs in the 1970s. My brothers with NICAP and out on skywatch got followed by a MIB car. Since they were in the back roads country roads at the time. It was decided to attempt to lose the MIBS and floored it (an old Dodge Dart). The MIB (without headlights!) literally tagged their bumper doing 60-70mph down gravel roads at 2am in the morning.

My brother J decided to trap them and finally have a face to face confrontation (J is like that..lol) So they managed to get the MIBS onto a dead end , then Both A and J did a 90 degree turn into a side road while the MIBs continued straight into the dead end. A and J swung out to trap them. The MIB car went straight into the dead ead of the road. Since there were no street lights (country farm road) All they saw were the Fin Tale lights of the MIB car in the dust cloud coming off the gravel road.

They disappeared!

But J and A assiumed they had turned around and were there at the end of the dead end the car facing them. So after 15 minutes of calming down from the chase and being 'pumped' for a physical confrontation.. The MIB were a no show they were not coming out of end of the street.

J pulled out a camping battery operated hand held flood light and finally shined it down at end of the road..


NOTHING! Just empty road.


To this day both J and A swear what chased them that night was a four door sadan, with two stone cold pale faced MIB with sunglasses I might add.. and Priesteen dress shirts.


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Now this, friends, must surely qualify as one of the freakiest videos ever: shot from the webcam of a police car on a high-speed chase, the car it's chasing appears to 'blink out' from view and then 'blink on' again. It then passes right through a solid chain link fence without disturbing the fence...! Must watch. If it weren't from the police, I'd never, ever believe this - but that's what makes webcams wonderful....


http://wimp.com/policechase/


Hyperdimensional drive, mebbe?



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I think the wonderful thing is that webcams in patrol cars have become so common - this stuff is meant to end up up as legal evidence, the cameras are designed that way. Before car cams, who'd ever believe them on this one, even if they are cops?

One would have to look at the other and say:

"Did you just see that.....?!"

"Nope."

"Me neither....."

And that would be the end of it. Gotta love technology. (Although Linda Moulton Howe has just warned that the new Silver or Gold I-Phones have an "add-a-UFO to your photo" app. Great.)

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Exclusive report by Robert Fisk
The demise of the dollar

In a graphic illustration of the new world order, Arab states have launched secret moves with China, Russia and France to stop using the US currency for oil trading

By Robert Fisk

Tuesday, 6 October 2009

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/le ... 98200.html


In the most profound financial change in recent Middle East history, Gulf Arabs are planning – along with China, Russia, Japan and France – to end dollar dealings for oil, moving instead to a basket of currencies including the Japanese yen and Chinese yuan, the euro, gold and a new, unified currency planned for nations in the Gulf Co-operation Council, including Saudi Arabia, Abu Dhabi, Kuwait and Qatar.

Secret meetings have already been held by finance ministers and central bank governors in Russia, China, Japan and Brazil to work on the scheme, which will mean that oil will no longer be priced in dollars.

The plans, confirmed to The Independent by both Gulf Arab and Chinese banking sources in Hong Kong, may help to explain the sudden rise in gold prices, but it also augurs an extraordinary transition from dollar markets within nine years.
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Leading article: The end of the dollar spells the rise of a new order

This radical proposal is a reflection of a changing economic world

Tuesday, 6 October 2009



Last autumn's global financial crisis set off an economic earthquake. And we are still feeling the tremors. The latest sign of the ground shifting beneath our feet is our report today of plans by Gulf states, China, Russia, France and Japan to end their practice of conducting oil deals in US dollars, switching instead to a diverse basket of currencies.

It is not hard to see the motivation for oil exporters to move away from the dollar. The value of the US currency has fallen sharply since last year's meltdown. And fears are growing, in the light of a spiralling US government deficit, that a further depreciation is likely. They do not want to sell their wares in return for a currency with an uncertain future.
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It is also easy to see why China would like a world trading system that is underpinned by other currencies as well as the dollar. For the past decade Beijing has been recycling the proceeds of its giant national trade surplus into purchases of US government bonds and other dollar-denominated assets. China too stands to make a significant loss if the value of the dollar falls. For China, however, the timing is much more sensitive. Beijing needs to reduce its dollar holdings, but if it does so too quickly it will bring about the very devaluation it fears. This explains why Chinese officials appear to want this transition to take place gradually over the next decade.





I don't know about you guys... In the old old Pissed off American tradition... I'm going to go and gather up some Tar and Feather's for some Globalist Traitors.... Me Thinks the American REPUBLIC is about to head into Civil War II...

Just an observation... and I can "FEEEL" it in Air...


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A national campaign to inoculate tens of millions of Americans against H1N1 influenza began Monday, with health care workers in Indiana and Tennessee targeted as the first recipients, federal health authorities said.


“I think the world has watched history unfold,” Dr. Judy Monroe, Indiana’s state health commissioner, told reporters at Wishard Hospital in Indianapolis.

Earlier Monday, the hospital received a shipment of 52 boxes — each containing 100 pre-filled sprayers.

“This first 5,200 doses that came to Marion County is really just the tip of the iceberg,” Monroe said.

Health Director Virginia Caine said the shipment will be split among the county’s hospitals.

A similar scene unfolded at LeBonheur Children’s Medical Center in Memphis, Tennessee, where three children have died from H1N1, sometimes referred to as swine flu.

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Being that I'm in Marion County (the County is basically encompasses the entire city of Indianapolis, a population of 3.5 million and I know Wishard Hospital Rather Well being I've had to go twice there in my life time.

Wishard is Indianapolis' Main and Only Public Hospital its the one your rushed to if your in need of emergency ambulance care (then after that you can fan out to one of eight private hospitals around the city) Wishard PRIMARILY serves the Un insured and Low Income. Public Health Insurance crowd (which I must say is rather good service!). Its also a pretty good Hospital since is apart of the Inidiana University Medical Group and serves as training hospital for Indiana University at Indianapolis Campus. So this isn't a run down over worked Public Hospital but a teaching Hospital for Young Doctors.

Perfect Hospital if you need 'Test Subjects' since I'd estimate about 3000 folks come threw the out patient Emergency Care room daily.

They're giving out the Nasal Vaccinee which contianes mercury, LIVE H1N1 (although according to them inhibited.)

Here's what I predict...

Earlly- Late November to early December NEWS FLASH H1N1 Hits Indianapolis with a so called MUTATED virus, the pandemic goes wild fire... Wishard, St Vincents, St.Francis, Community Hosiptal will be OVERWHELMED ... Govener Mitch Daniels declears a state of emerency.

All thanks to not the FLU but the Vaccinee they giving out today.


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Three Government Reports Point to Fiscal Doomsday
October 5th, 2009 10:38 AM
Categories: News, Economic

Link: http://www.moneyandmarkets.com/three-go ... ay-3-35720

When our leaders have no awareness of the disastrous consequences of their actions, they can claim ignorance and take no action. Or when our leaders have no hard evidence as to what might happen in the future, they can at least claim uncertainty. But when they have full knowledge of an impending disaster … they have proof of its inevitability in ANY scenario … and they so declare in their official reports … but STILL don’t lift a finger to change course … then they have only one remaining claim:

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The Nazarene Way of Essenic Studies
~ The Lord's Prayer ~
Translations from Aramaic, Origins and History of The Lord's Prayer

http://www.thenazareneway.com/lords_prayer.htm

Biblical scholars disagree about Jesus' meaning in the Lord's Prayer. Some view it as "existential," referring to man's present experience on earth, while others interpret it as "eschatological," referring to the coming Kingdom of God. The prayer itself lends to both interpretations, and further questions are posed by the existence of other translations and the problems inherent in the process of translation.

"This, then, is how you should pray:" ~Jesus, Matt 6:9

It has always been of great interest as to the many different interpretations of the various aspects of what is offered as foundational information about Jesus the Nazarene, what he said and taught, and how translations over the centuries have changed dramatically sometimes even altering the original meaning of a particular text.

Aramaic manuscripts have been uncovered over the years which provide us with original source documents that can be fairly well authenticated. Beginning with Constantine around 325 AD, dramatic changes began to be infused into interpretations as texts were translated from Aramaic into Greek and then into Latin. In later years there was then translations into old English, and later, more translations into modern English.

The Aramaic Language doesn't distinguish between means and purpose, inside quality or outside acting. Both are given simultaneously as in "what you've sown, so you'll harvest." When Jesus relates to the "Kingdom of Heaven" he means the Kingdom inside as well as the Kingdom in the middle or "amongst" us. Also "the next one" is inside and outside as in the whole or Self. The arbitrary borders between spirit, body and soul are nonexistent.

The Aramaic Language has (like the Hebrew and Arabic) different levels of meaning. The words are organized and defined by a poetical system where different meanings of every word are possible. So, every line of the Lords Prayer could be translated into English in many different versions. As an example of how the intent of a passage can be changed, here are some translations of the Lord's Prayer directly translated from the ancient Aramaic language into modern English.

The Prayer To Our Father
(in the original Aramaic)

Abwûn
"Oh Thou, from whom the breath of life comes,

d'bwaschmâja
who fills all realms of sound, light and vibration.

Nethkâdasch schmach
May Your light be experienced in my utmost holiest.

Têtê malkuthach.
Your Heavenly Domain approaches.

Nehwê tzevjânach aikâna d'bwaschmâja af b'arha.
Let Your will come true - in the universe (all that vibrates)
just as on earth (that is material and dense).

Hawvlân lachma d'sûnkanân jaomâna.
Give us wisdom (understanding, assistance) for our daily need,

Waschboklân chaubên wachtahên aikâna
daf chnân schwoken l'chaijabên.
detach the fetters of faults that bind us, (karma)
like we let go the guilt of others.

Wela tachlân l'nesjuna
Let us not be lost in superficial things (materialism, common temptations),

ela patzân min bischa.
but let us be freed from that what keeps us off from our true purpose.

Metol dilachie malkutha wahaila wateschbuchta l'ahlâm almîn.
From You comes the all-working will, the lively strength to act,
the song that beautifies all and renews itself from age to age.

Amên.
Sealed in trust, faith and truth.
(I confirm with my entire being)

Lords Prayer, from the original Aramaic
Translation by Neil Douglas-Klotz in Prayers of the Cosmos

O Birther! Father- Mother of the Cosmos

Focus your light within us - make it useful.

Create your reign of unity now-

through our fiery hearts and willing hands

Help us love beyond our ideals

and sprout acts of compassion for all creatures.

Animate the earth within us: we then

feel the Wisdom underneath supporting all.

Untangle the knots within

so that we can mend our hearts' simple ties to each other.

Don't let surface things delude us,

But free us from what holds us back from our true purpose.

Out of you, the astonishing fire,

Returning light and sound to the cosmos.

Amen.

Lords Prayer, from Aramaic into Old English
Translation by G.J.R. Ouseley from The Gospel of the Holy Twelve

Our Father-Mother Who art above and within:

Hallowed be Thy Name in twofold Trinity.

In Wisdom, Love and Equity Thy Kingdom come to all.

Thy will be done, As in Heaven so in Earth.

Give us day by day to partake of Thy holy Bread, and the fruit of the living Vine.

As Thou dost forgive us our trespasses, so may we forgive others who trespass against us.

Shew upon us Thy goodness, that to others we may shew the same.

In the hour of temptation, deliver us from evil.

Amun.

The Lord's Prayer, sometimes known by its first two Latin words as the Pater Noster, or the English equivalent Our Father, is probably the most well-known prayer in the Christian religion. The Lord's Prayer is excerpted from Matt. 6:9-13 during the Sermon on the Mount. A similar prayer is found on Luke 11:2-4.

It is called the "Lord's Prayer" because it was the prayer given by Jesus in response to a request from the Apostles for guidance on how to pray. Most Christian theologians point out that Jesus would have never used this prayer himself, for it specifically asks for forgiveness of sins or, more literally, for cancellation of debts, and in most schools of Christian thought, Christ never sinned. However since it says "forgive us our sins", not "forgive me my sins", Christ might have prayed it by way of identifying himself with the common plight of man and of asking for the forgiveness of the sins of his disciples.

The doxology (For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen) was not present in the original version of the prayer, but rather was added to the Gospels as a result of its use in the liturgy of the early church. For this reason, it is not included in many modern translations.

Origins of the Lord's Prayer

In the latter part of the second century, Matthew translates the Lord's Prayer in rather crude Greek, behind which one can still sense the original Aramaic. The commonly accepted version of the Lord's Prayer is the version of Matthew. This version however is admitted to be grossly inaccurate. It contains sixty-six words. The Revised Version of Matthew contains but fifty-five. Twenty-four words either do not belong to the prayer, or have been misplaced; while words which do belong to it have been omitted. In this regard, John E. Remsberg, author of The Christ writes: "If the custodians of the Christian Scriptures have permitted the prayer of their Lord to be corrupted to this extent, what reliance can be placed upon the genuineness of the remainder of these writings?"

The Lord's Prayer, like so many more of the precepts and discourses ascribed to Jesus, is borrowed. Dr. Hardwicke, of England, says: "The so-called 'Lord's Prayer' was learned by the Messiah as the 'Kadish' from the Talmud."

The Kadish, as translated by Christian scholar, Rev. John Gregorie, is as follows:

"Our Parent which art in heaven, be gracious to us, O Lord, our God; hallowed be thy name, and let the remembrance of thee be glorified in heaven above and in the earth here below. Let thy kingdom reign over us now and forever. The holy men of old said, Remit and forgive unto all men whatsoever they have done against me. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil thing. For thine is the kingdom, and thou shalt reign in glory for ever and for evermore."

The eminent Swiss theologian, Dr. Wetstein, says: "It is a curious fact that the Lord's Prayer may be constructed almost verbatim out of the Talmud. The Sermon on the Mount is derived largely from the teachings of the Essenes, a Jewish sect to which Jesus is believed by many to have belonged."

In the early Church, the Christians living in the eastern half of the Roman Empire added the doxology ("For thine is the kingdom ect.") to the Gospel text of the Our Father when reciting the prayer at Mass. Evidence of this practice is also found in the Didache (Teaching of the Twelve Apostles), a first-century manual of morals, worship and doctrine of the Church. (The Didache also prescribed that the faithful recite the Our Father three times a day.) Also when copying the scriptures, Greek scribes sometimes appended the doxology onto the original Gospel text of the Our Father; however, most texts today would omit this inclusion, relegate it to a footnote, or note that it was a later addition to the Gospel. Official "Catholic" Bibles including the Vulgate, the Douay-Rheims, the Confraternity Edition, and the New American have never included this doxology.

In the western half of the Roman Empire and in the Latin rite, the Our Father was always an important part of the Mass. St. Jerome (d. 420) attested to the usage of the Our Father in the Mass, and St. Gregory the Great (d. 604) placed the recitation of the Our Father after the Canon and before the Fraction. The Commentary on the Sacrament of St. Ambrose (d. 397) meditated on the meaning of "daily bread" in the context of the Holy Eucharist. In this same vein, St. Augustine (d. 430) saw the Our Father as a beautiful connection of the Holy Eucharist with the forgiveness of sins. In all instances, the Church saw this "perfect prayer which the Lord gave" as a proper means of preparing for Holy Communion. However, none of this evidence includes the appended doxology.

The English wording of the Our Father that is used today reflects the version mandated for use by Henry VIII, which was based on the English version of the Bible produced by Tyndale (1525). Later in 1541 after his official separation from the Holy Father, Henry VIII issued an edict saying:

"His Grace perceiving now the great diversity of the translations of the Pater Noster hath willed them all to be taken up, and instead of them hath caused an uniform translation of the said Pater Noster, Ave, Creed, etc., to be set forth, willing all his loving subjects to learn and use the same and straitly [sic] commanding all parsons, vicars, and curates to read and teach the same to their parishioners."

This English version without the doxology of the Our Father became accepted throughout the English-speaking world, even though the later English translations of the Bible including the Catholic Douay-Rheims (1610) and Protestant King James versions (1611) had different renderings of prayers as found in the Gospel of St. Matthew. Later, the Catholic Church made slight modifications in the English: "who art" replaced "which art," and "on earth" replaced "in earth." During the reign of Edward VI, the Book of Common Prayer (1549 and 1552 editions) of the Church of England did not change the wording of the Our Father nor add the doxology. However, during the reign of Elizabeth I and a resurgence to rid the Church of England from any Catholic vestiges, the Lord’s Prayer was changed to include the doxology.

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That’s the last of the saved posts before the crash...

Special thanks to Mountainer7 for sending me the info so that I could restore it.

Unfortunately anything posted in SNEDS says and or the Active Mind will be lost but fortunately I do don't think it was all that much.

And now back to your regular scheduled program

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