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I have found the articles about the Gut and health Flora to be most interesting to understand the impact the body immune system has (or lack of it) in studying dis-ease! This is a good article, and I highly recommend that the materials offered on the main page are reviewed (vids) so as to get the full picture. Making fermented veggies is as old as the planet, and is a cheap way of restoring good gut bacteria need for health!! I shall try keeping this tread alive with more research and links for us all to learn more!!!

Outsmart Cancer - Avoid These 2 Foods

The Wide-Ranging Influence of Gut Microbes on Your Mental and Physical Health

September 05 2012 By Dr. Mercola

There are 100 trillion cells in your body, but 90% of the genetic material is not yours. It is from the bacteria, fungi, viruses and other microorganisms, i.e. your microflora. Gut microbes are big in the news lately, as researchers continue to discover the important roles these tiny organisms play in your overall health and well-being. We now know that your microflora influence your:

Genetic expression
Immune system
Weight, and
Risk of numerous chronic and acute diseases, from diabetes to cancer

Most recently, research has shown that a certain set of these microbes may actually influence the activity of genes in your brain – and the parts they play are not small parts. They may work to manipulate your behavior, and your memory as well.

Microbes Manipulate Your Mind

According to a recent article in The Guardian1, certain species of gut bacteria have been found to influence gene activity in your brain. Some of this research was published in 2011.2 Mice lacking gut bacteria were found to engage in "high-risk behavior," and this altered behavior was accompanied by neurochemical changes in the mouse brain.

According to the authors, microbiota (your gut flora) may play a role in the communication between your gut and your brain, and:

"Acquisition of intestinal microbiota in the immediate postnatal period has a defining impact on the development and function of the gastrointestinal, immune, neuroendocrine and metabolic systems. For example, the presence of gut microbiota regulates the set point for hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal (HPA) axis activity."

But they also discovered other differences between the mice with normal gut flora and those lacking gut bacteria. When examining the animals' brains, they discovered a number of genetic alterations in the germ-free mice. According to The Guardian:

"Brain-derived neurotrophic factor (BDNF) was significantly up-regulated, and the 5HT1A serotonin receptor sub-type down-regulated, in the dentate gyrus of the hippocampus. The gene encoding the NR2B subunit of the NMDA receptor was also down-regulated in the amygdala.

All three genes have previously been implicated in emotion and anxiety-like behaviors.

BDNF is a growth factor that is essential for proper brain development, and a recent study showed that deleting the BDNF receptor TrkB alters the way in which newborn neurons integrate into hippocampal circuitry and increases anxiety-like behaviors in mice. Serotonin receptors, which are distributed widely throughout the brain, are well known to be involved in mood, and compounds that activate the 5HT1A subtype also produce anxiety-like behaviors.

The finding that the NR2B subunit of the NMDA receptor down-regulated in the amygdala is particularly interesting. NMDA receptors are composed of multiple subunits, but those made up of only NR2B subunits are known to be critical for the development and function of the amygdala, which has a well established role in fear and other emotions, and in learning and memory. Drugs that block these receptors have been shown to block the formation of fearful memories and to reduce the anxiety associated with alcohol withdrawal in rodents."

Your Gut Bacteria Are Under Constant Assault

Your lifestyle can and does influence your gut flora on a daily basis. For example, your gut bacteria are extremely sensitive to:

Antibiotics
Chlorinated water
Antibacterial soap
Agricultural chemicals
Pollution

All of these common exposures can wreak havoc on the makeup of bacteria in your gut, but researchers are now increasingly looking at the cascading ill effects of antibiotics in particular.

Not only are antibiotics overused in medicine, the vast majority of these drugs enter you via livestock – you consume antibiotics every time you eat meat from an animal raised in a confined animal feeding operation (CAFO). In fact, about 80 percent of all the antibiotics produced are used in agriculture3 – not only to fight infection, but to promote unhealthy (though profitable) weight gain in the animals.

Early Use of Antibiotics Also Linked to Obesity

With that in mind, is it any wonder that researchers are now finding that antibiotics are associated with weight gain in humans as well?

"For many years now, farmers have known that antibiotics are great at producing heavier cows for market," Dr. Jan Blustein, MD, PhD, professor of population health and medicine told PreventDisease.com in a recent article.4 "While we need more research to confirm our findings, this carefully conducted study suggests that antibiotics influence weight gain in humans, and especially children..."

According to The Washington Post:

"The use of antibiotics in young children might lead to a higher risk of obesity, and two new studies, one on mice and one on humans, conclude that changes of the intestinal bacteria caused by antibiotics could be responsible. Taken together, the New York University researchers conclude that it might be necessary to broaden our concept of the causes of obesity and urge more caution in using antibiotics."

The first study, published in the journal Nature6, found that young mice treated with low doses of common antibiotics gained 10-15 percent more fat than the untreated controls. After surveying the gut bacteria in the mice, they found that mice treated with antibiotics had a different composition of gut bacteria compared to the untreated mice. Specifically, certain species of bacteria previously shown to be associated with obesity were found in higher concentrations in the treated mice. Furthermore, after genetic analysis of the bacteria's metabolism, they discovered that genes responsible for fat synthesis had greater levels of activity in the treated mice.

According to lead author Martin Blaser:

"The rise of obesity around the world is coincident with widespread antibiotic use, and our studies provide an experimental linkage. It is possible that early exposure to antibiotics primes children for obesity later in life."

The co-author Dr Ilseung Cho added:

"By using antibiotics, we found we can actually manipulate the population of bacteria and alter how they metabolize certain nutrients. Ultimately, we were able to affect body composition and development in young mice by changing their gut microbiome through this exposure."

The second study, published in the International Journal of Obesity9, aimed to corroborate these findings in human subjects. The study, which included more than 10,000 children, found that treating babies with antibiotics before the age of six months old appears to predispose them to being overweight in childhood. Children exposed to antibiotics between the ages of six to 14 months did not have significantly higher body mass than unexposed children.

While this study does not prove causation between antibiotic use in infancy and later obesity, it does show a correlation, and the mechanism appears to be related to the way antibiotics alter your child's gut flora. However, excess weight is not the only, or the worst problem that such imbalance can create. As previously explained by Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride, children with imbalanced gut flora are more prone to develop neurological disorders, such as ADD/ADHD and various learning disorders. These children are also more prone to vaccine damage.


Increasingly, researchers are finding that proper nutrition is not just about getting the right kind and amount of nutrients needed for biological processes. You also need to nourish these non-human cells in your body, i.e. your gut microflora. This issue was recently raised at the 244th National Meeting & Exposition of the American Chemical Society. According to a recent article in NewHope360:10

"'Just as people need food to thrive, so do the billions of healthful bacteria that live in our guts, our gastrointestinal tract,' [Robert] Rastall [Phd] explained. 'There's a large and expanding body of scientific evidence that bacteria in the gut play a role in health and disease. Prebiotics are foods that contain nutrients that support the growth and activity of these friendly bacteria.'

Rastall contrasted prebiotics to the more familiar probiotics, already being promoted on the labels of food like yogurt and some dietary supplements.

Probiotic foods actually contain friendly bacteria like Lactobacillus acidophilus believed to release healthful substances as they grow in the GI tract. Prebiotics are indigestible food ingredients that provide no nutrition to people. Their purpose is to nourish the friendly bacteria among the estimated 100 trillion microbes living inside the human GI tract."

While raised awareness about the importance of prebiotics and probiotics is good news, it comes with the territory that researchers are also working on ways to produce prebiotics that can easily be added to processed foods. Pre- and probiotics are very sensitive to heat, and excessive heat-treatment is a hallmark of most processed foods. It therefore stands to reason that any prebiotic inventions they come up with for the processed foods market will inevitably be of inferior quality, and I strongly recommend avoiding any and all processed foods that proclaim to contain prebiotics or probiotics, and stick with the real thing, i.e. traditionally fermented foods for healthful probiotics, and unprocessed whole foods for prebiotics, such as onions and garlic.

Study Finds "Clear Link" Between Inflammation, Bacterial Communities and Cancer

Demonstrating just how far-reaching the health impact of the bacterial balance in your gut can be, another recent study claims the key factor behind cancer appears to be ecological rather than genetic.

Published in the journal Science12, the study suggests cancer may be due to a chain reaction that starts with inflammation that disrupts your gut ecosystems, allowing pathogens, such as E.coli, to invade your gut and cause cellular damage. The presence of E.coli was increased by a factor of 100 by inflammation, and 80 percent of germ-free mice infected with E.coli developed colorectal cancer, while germ-free mice inoculated with another common gut bacterium remained cancer-free, although these mice, like the others, did develop severe colitis (gut inflammation).

According to a press release by the University of North Carolina:

"In a series of experiments conducted with mice prone to intestinal inflammation, the researchers found that inflammation itself causes significant simplification in diverse communities of gut microbes and allows new bacterial populations to establish major footholds. Among the bacterial taxa invading the disturbed intestinal ecosystem, the research team found a greatly increased presence of E. coli and related bacteria.

By putting E. coli bacteria into mice that were raised under sterile conditions, the team also found that the presence of E. coli promoted tumor formation. When regions of the E. coli genome known to be involved in DNA damage were removed, the ability of the E. coli to cause tumors was substantially decreased.

The researchers noted that the mouse results may have implications for human health as well, as they also found an E. coli variant with the suspect genes in high percentages of human patients with colorectal cancer and irritable bowel disease.

...'As is usual in human studies, we didn't have cause and effect,' Fodor noted. 'We don't know if microbes are somehow causing conditions to shift in the gut that would cause cancer or if there are conditions that are associated with cancer that would increase the openness of the gut to particular microbes. A shift in the microbial community is associated with inflammation... It is interesting that the microbial community is actually changing with the disease state, which indicates that it is either responding to or contributing to the disease state.'"

Like Bacteria, Cancer Cells Rely on Communication and Cooperation

In related news, an article published in Trends in Microbiology14 examines the shared traits of cancer cells and bacteria. Bacteria and cancer cells both use sophisticated communication to gain supremacy within the host. As reported by Medical News Today:15

"Inspired by the social and survival tactics of bacteria, the team presents a new picture of cancer as a meta-community of smart communicating cells possessing special traits for cooperative behavior. Using intricate communication, cancer cells can distribute tasks, share resources, differentiate, and make decisions. Before sending cells to colonize organs and tissues throughout the body (metastasis), 'spying cells' explore the body and return the cancer's origin. Only then do metastatic cells leave the primary tumor and navigate to new posts.

Also like bacteria, cancer cells change their own environment. They induce genetic changes and enslave surrounding normal cells, forcing them to do the disease's bidding - providing physical support, protecting them from the immune system, and more."

Three years ago, I posted a TED video featuring Bonnie Bassler, in which she discusses how bacteria "talk" to each other using a chemical language that lets them coordinate defense and mount attacks. Cancer cells, as it turns out, employ similar forms of communication, and as discussed by Bassler, these discoveries pave the way for the development of drugs aimed at shutting down or altering cell-to-cell communication.

This is a Flash-based video and may not be viewable on mobile devices.

According to Medical News Today:

"The team also suggests further research into cancer 'cannibalism,' when cancer cells may consume their peers when they run out of resources. The idea is to send signals which trigger cancer cells to kill each other, which can be done with bacteria. Other researchers have demonstrated that injected bacteria can 'outsmart cancer.' Bacteria can be used to induce gap junctions between the cancer cells and immune cells, 'teaching' the immune system to recognize and kill the tumor cells."

The Phenomenal Health Benefits of Fermented Vegetables

Cultured or fermented foods have a very long history in virtually all native diets, and have always been highly prized for their health benefits. The advent of processed foods dramatically altered the human diet, and we're now reaping the results in the form of rapidly rising chronic health problems. I believe the shunning of traditionally fermented foods has a lot to do with this.

The culturing process produces beneficial microbes that are extremely important for your health as they help balance your intestinal flora. If you do not regularly consume the traditionally fermented foods below, a high-quality probiotic supplement will provide similar benefits:

Fermented vegetables
Lassi (an Indian yoghurt drink, traditionally enjoyed before dinner)

Fermented milk, such as kefir (a quart of unpasteurized kefir has far more active bacteria than you can possibly purchase in any probiotics supplement)

Natto (fermented soy)

When choosing fermented foods, steer clear of pasteurized versions, as pasteurization will destroy many of the naturally occurring probiotics. This includes most of the "probiotic" yogurts you find in every grocery store these days; since they're pasteurized, they will be associated with all of the problems of pasteurized milk products and they typically contain added sugars, high fructose corn syrup, artificial coloring, or artificial sweeteners, all of which will only worsen your health.

Fermented foods are also some of the best chelators and detox agents available, meaning they can help rid your body of a wide variety of toxins, including heavy metals.

When you first start out, you'll want to start small, adding as little as half a tablespoon of fermented vegetables to each meal, and gradually working your way up to about a quarter to half a cup (2 oz to 4 oz) of fermented vegetables or other cultured food with one to three meals per day. Since cultured foods are efficient detoxifiers, you may experience detox symptoms, or a "healing crisis," if you introduce too many at once.

Learn to Make Your Own Fermented Vegetables

Fermented vegetables are easy to make on your own. It's also the most cost-effective way to get high amounts of healthful probiotics in your diet. To learn how, review the following interview with Caroline Barringer, a Nutritional Therapy Practitioner (NTP) and an expert in the preparation of the foods prescribed in Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride's Gut and Psychology Syndrome (GAPS) Nutritional Program. In addition to the wealth of information shared in this interview, I highly recommend getting the book Gut and Psychology Syndrome, which provides all the necessary details for Dr. McBride's GAPS protocol.

Although you can use the native bacteria on cabbage and other vegetables, it is typically easier to get consistent results by using a starter culture. Caroline prepares hundreds of quarts of fermented vegetables a week and has found that she gets great results by using three to four high quality probiotic capsules to jump start the fermentation process.

Caroline prepares the vegetables commercially and I used hers for a month before I started making my own. So, if you just want to put your toe in the water and see if you like them, you can order a jar or two and try them out. You can find her products on http://www.CulturedVegetables.net or http://www.CulturedNutrition.com.

AVOID This to Optimize Your Gut Flora!

Along with eating naturally fermented foods and/or taking a high-quality supplement, it's essential that you avoid sugar, including fructose. Sugar nourishes pathogenic bacteria, yeast, and fungi in your gut, which may actually harm you more than its impact on insulin resistance. One of the major results of eating a healthy diet like the one described in my nutrition plan is that you cause your beneficial gut bacteria to flourish, and they secondarily perform the real "magic" of restoring your health.

Remember, an estimated 80 percent of your immune system is located in your gut, which is just one more reason why "tending to" your gut microflora is an essential element of good health. A robust immune system, supported by your flourishing inner ecosystem, is your number one defense against ALL disease, from the common cold to cancer.

I feel very strongly that if we can catalyze a movement to get more people to implement this ancient dietary wisdom to their normal eating patterns, then we'll start seeing a radical change in health.


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My apologies but can I get the coles notes version from someone that I respect, all I see is avoid this or that.

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Need some clarity L2L - what do you mean by "coles notes" - I don't see reference to this in the text?

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Need some clarity L2L - what do you mean by "coles notes" - I don't see reference to this in the text?

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Maybe he means supermarket notes we have a supermarket chain in Australia called "coles".

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Oh sorry sky its a slanh saying we use here, coles is a bookstore in North America and they sometimes have short versions of stories and or books, so we use the term "Coles Notes" when asking for a shortened version.

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Oh sorry sky its a slanh saying we use here, coles is a bookstore in North America and they sometimes have short versions of stories and or books, so we use the term "Coles Notes" when asking for a shortened version.

Hope that makes sense?


We use the term Shorthand version

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Used by literate writers in the real world for note taking, mostly at school or college. Usually just abbreviated forms of words, they also can use symbols or different pieces of text that symbolize longer parts of text. Usually shorthand is easier to be read by the writer, for all shorthand is unique to its user. Some abbreviate different things.

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L2L - here is a part of one of the interviews on vid:

I recommend fermented foods which are part of the diet anyway. Fermented foods
provide the patient with a lot of probiotic bacteria. Probiotics are the major cleansers in
the body because of their solubles. They have both elements which chelate heavy
metals and which grab hold of all sorts of cancer causing chemicals and other
chemicals. If they cannot neutralize them, they will hold them until they take them out of
your body because most of our stool is bacteria. So they take them out in your stool.
Providing a lot of probiotics in the form of fermented food and supplemental probiotic is
one of the most powerful ways of removing all sorts of toxins from the body. So
detoxification is a third part of the GAPS nutritional protocol.

The whole program is a lifestyle change. Not just for the child or the adult because there
are many GAPS (indiscernible 41:35) around but for the whole family. I recommend
usually that the whole family goes on the diet and goes on the protocol because we
have a mom with abnormal gut flora. In more than 50% of cases dads have got
abnormal gut flora and the siblings acquire the same gut flora from the same mom.

Fermented foods can be of two groups; dairy fermented foods
and vegetable and fruit fermented foods. I find that the majority cases in my clinic dairy
fermented foods are tolerated perfectly well in these children. I know that parents are
quite shocked when I talk about dairy particularly those who tried gluten and casein free
diet.

Majority of children particularly if they go through the GAPS introduction diet – GAPS
diet is structured in three stages, introduction diet, whole diet and coming off the GAPS
diet. Particularly if you’re doing the introduction diet, fermented dairy can be introduced
from the beginning and usually we introduce yoghurt. Yoghurt is fermented with
lactobacilli. These are much milder than yeasts. It produces much milder die off
reaction. I’ll talk about die off in a minute.

Once the yoghurt is well tolerated by the child, by the adult, then we start introducing
kefir. Kefir is a group of yeasts and bacteria and some viruses in there as well as we’re
discovering now. Here we’re introducing a far more aggressive group of probiotic
microbes into the digestive tract. That’s why kefir usually produces more severe die off
reaction, a much stronger reaction. That’s why we go through the die off first with
yoghurt and then we introduce kefir.

If there is any problem with dairy, then we can introduce vegetables fermented with the
same cultures. We can ferment them by adding yoghurt culture or kefir culture to the
vegetables.

The basis of all vegetable fermentation is cabbage. There you can add carrot and onion
and beetroot and garlic and (indiscernible 44:54) and many other vegetables. It can be
fermented together. There are many good recipes available from fermentation of
vegetables on the internet and in my book. My book has a large recipe section where I
describe all the recipes and how to ferment your own foods at home.
So these things can be introduced; fermented cabbage, sauerkraut. That’s a traditional
recipe where no culture is added because vegetables particularly organic vegetables
have natural bacteria living on them. So you don’t need to add any culture to them.
Sauerkraut is made simply by shredding the cabbage, pounding the cabbage so that the
juices are released. It’s just salt and cabbage nothing else added. You might add some
carrot to it or some juniper berries and that makes a beautiful sauerkraut. These are the
foods that people introduce.

What people have to understand that probiotics is not something optional because
humankind have consumed probiotics forever, for as long as we existed. Why?
Because for millennia we didn’t have refrigeration. We didn’t have freezers. We didn’t
have refrigerators. How did people preserve their food for millennia, for thousands of
years, possibly for millions of years? People fermented foods.

When your cabbages are ripe in September, if you don’t do something with them they
would rot away and (indiscernible 46:21) at once and you would be left without cabbage
for the rest of the year. So people made sauerkraut. They fermented the cabbage.
Sauerkraut can keep for five years without spoiling. For the rest of the year people ate
fermented cabbage and with every mouthful of that sauerkraut they consumed millions
and millions possibly billions of probiotic bacteria into their digestive system.
When they would kill an animal they couldn’t eat all the meat at once and if you don’t do
something with that meat if would spoil so people made hams, traditional hams,
prosciutto in Italy and prosciutto in Croatia and other varieties of hams. They all liked
fermented meats.

People around the world if you look at traditional diets fermented everything. They
fermented meats and fish and vegetables and dairy and fruit and grains. Anything can
be fermented. Most of the year people have consumed their foods in a fermented state.
So they consumed large amounts of probiotic bacteria.

In the last few decades as our food industry has developed this practice got forgotten.
People stopped fermenting their foods because the food industry has changed all our
recipes with their own agenda obviously of shelf life and profit and things like that.
People stopped consuming fermented foods. So we are depriving our bodies of this
very important part of our physiology –daily consumption of probiotic bacteria.
People who want to restore their gut flora and people who want to have healthy immune
system and healthy bodies have to reclaim that practice back. They have to start
consuming fermented foods again or they have to consume probiotic bacteria in a
supplemented form.

When we talk about probiotics we have to talk about die off. What is die off? A more
scientific name for it is Herxheimer reaction which was first discovered with antibiotics
because when antibiotics were introduced into the body they start killing off the
pathogens. When these pathogens die they release toxins. So temporarily the person
would get worse because a large amount of toxins would be released into the system.
The same happens with probiotics. If you suddenly consume a large amount of
fermented food, if you’ve never consumed it before and you suddenly ate a plateful of
sauerkraut or another fermented food, the amount of probiotic bacteria that you put into
your digestive system can cause quite a die off. They would start attacking pathogens in
your gut. Those pathogens will start dying and releasing toxins.

These are the toxins which are making you autistic or dyspraxic or emotional or
depressed or diabetic or gives you rheumatoid arthritis or gives you celiac disease or
gives you something else. So your symptoms temporarily will get worse.
In order to control this die off reaction, I recommend that people start with a tiny amount
of commercial probiotic or fermented foods. Go through the little die off that it would
produce then increase the dose, again go through the little die off that it produces then
continue increasing the dose in this fashion.

This dose increase is a very individual process. It depends on the severity of the
condition. It depends how severe the abnormalities in the gut flora are in the person. In
a mild person they can sail through the whole process and get up to the therapeutic
dose of a probiotic in a couple of weeks.

Other people have to go in absolute baby steps. They have to start with a pinch of a
probiotic for a week or two then two pinches for a week or two and so on and it takes
them months before they get to the therapeutic level of the probiotic.
Some die off has to be endured but you have to keep it controlled at a level that is
manageable that you can live with. It’s the same for children and for adults. That’s about
probiotics which come in two forms, in supplemental form and in fermented food form. It
is a very important part of the GAPS nutrition protocol.

Then on Dairy:

The fermented dairy has to made at home. You can’t just buy them in
the store because in the store they are not fermented long enough for all the lactose to
be consumed by the fermenting bacteria.

Dairy milk contains a sugar, a double sugar called lactose which is a perfect food for
pathogenic microbes in the gut. If you drink milk then these pathogens will consume the
lactose and proliferate and it produces lots of gas and lots of discomfort for you. When
we introduce the fermenting bacteria into the milk, they eat all the lactose. That’s what
bacteria like eating. They like eating sugars.

Well fermented milk is lactose free. It needs to be fermented at least 24 hours in a warm
place and that has to be done at home. At the same time, as the lactose is being
consumed in the milk, the whole structure of the milk is being pre-digested. These
bacteria will pre-digest proteins for you. They will break them down for you. They will
break down parts. They will release vitamins. They will do many things to the milk so it
becomes very easy for your own digestive system to handle. Even for people who are
lactose intolerant or dairy intolerant they find that they can tolerate well fermented milk
perfectly well.

It is best to find raw organic dairy from traditional breeds of cows on pasture. There is a
growing number of farms certainly in the States and in this country where I am who
provide this milk. It’s a fantastic quality milk. It’s wonderful. But many people haven’t got
access to that quality of milk. If you cannot find raw milk and raw cream to ferment don’t
worry, find organic pasteurized milk and ferment that.

Yes raw milk is best but fermentation will return some life back into the pasteurized milk,
pre-digested and make it more suitable for the human gut.

I have many, many families in my clinic who could not obtain raw milk and who
fermented organic pasteurized milk and got very good results with their children and
with adults as well. That’s with the milk.

Usually, as I say, we make yoghurt because it produces a milder die off reaction then
we move into kefir. At the same time I recommend fermenting cream. When you’re
introducing yoghurt you ferment cream in parallel with yoghurt culture in a different jar
and introduce that because sour cream has a beautiful profile of fatty acids in them.
Perfect for the brain. Perfect for the immunity particularly if it is a raw cream.
When you introduce kefir, when you start fermenting milk with kefir culture in parallel in
a different jar ferment cream with kefir culture and introduce sour cream fermented with
kefir culture. You can label your jars. Once you fermented these products they keep in
the fridge for months and months. They can be introduced very gradually into the
patient’s protocol.

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Its not short, but rather informative... Maybe you can cut and paste the bits that suit?

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