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Chris Hedges spent over 20 years abroad as a war correspondent.
He says he came back and discovered that
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Corporations had carried out a coup d'etat in my country.



NPR Gets Radio Host Fired for Occupying
http://www.truth-out.org/npr-gets-radio-host-fired-occupying/1319118373

Cops think it a war zone


Home land security now getting involved?
http://current.com/shows/countdown/videos/occupy-wall-street-naomi-wolf-calls-attention-to-the-disturbing-involvement-of-homeland-security-in-her-arrest
http://www.readersupportednews.org/opinion2/275-42/7975-focus-naomi-wolf-how-i-was-arrested-at-occupy-wall-street

It’s not a conspiracy! Elite controls global economy
http://rt.com/news/global-elite-economy-conspiracy-427/

Root of the problem
http://nrek.co/information/occupywallstreet-the-real-root-of-the-global-economic-problem/

We are drugged by the sugar
http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0000698
Risky move by Fed and BofA moves $55 trillion in dodgy derivatives to FDIC insured bank, which are guaranteed by

the tax payer
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/sleight_of_hand_uy96iNSbW99JHMRnbxgvfL

JP Morgan is also moving up to $79 Trillion in European backed derivatives to where they will be guaranteed by the FED, and the FDIC.
http://www.thomhartmann.com/forum/2011/10/boa-moves-trillions-fdic-acct

taxpayers shouldn't have to pay their $100 TRILLION in gambling debts!

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Anonymous is asking for the encryption key to be released.


The less people can earn and spend, the less well the economy performs.
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Even the IMF is beginning to see the link between equality and economic prosperity.
http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/fandd/2011/09/berg.htm

The less people can earn and spend, the less well the economy performs. People go too deeply into debt just trying to keep up.
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-fix-the-economy-2011-10

Reduce the political influence of the very wealthy and large corporations, return democracy to the people, and begin distributing the wealth of society more equitably.
Occupy your mind

TPBe just keep singing


To NPR credit above from
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Planet Money partnered on this story with the investigative reporters at ProPublica. For more, see ProPublica.org.

I'm going to cut to the chase and tell you our conclusion first.

We believe we can show that some Wall Street bankers had evidence, a year or two before the financial crisis hit, that there were serious problems with sub prime mortgage investments.

Rather than wind down this business, they sped it up using financial trickery. These people earned huge bonuses for their actions. They also made the crisis considerably larger and more damaging.

The folks we're talking about work in the CDO department of big Wall Street banks — "the sexiest place to work on Wall Street," in the words of Jake Bernstein, one of the ProPublica reporters who worked on this story.

CDOs — collateralized debt obligations — were the primary way that big banks turned those subprime mortgages into what we now think of as toxic assets. But back in 2006, they were just the hot new part of the industry. The people working on CDOs could make millions of dollars a year, but their income depended on how many CDOs they sold.

I think of a CDO like a sausage. Take meat nobody wants, toss it in a grinder, and out comes something delicious.

With CDOs, you buy a bunch of unattractive bonds backed by subprime mortgages, put them all together, then sell off pieces of this new structure. And, like sausages in a diner on Sunday morning, CDOs were incredibly popular.
CDOs, they are the heart of the American boom," says Jesse Eisinger, the other ProPublica reporter on the story. "Everyone wants them. Pension funds, insurance companies, small banks around the world."

For about five years, during the housing boom, CDOs grew dramatically. Then, in the summer of 2006, the market started to cool. For the first time, lots of customers started saying no to the bankers selling CDOs. Customers like Peter Nowell, with the Royal Bank of Scotland.

"There were a lot of things that were being relaxed on a credit perspective over that time as people wanted to push out more and more deals," he says. "Too many California mortgages. Too low credit scores."

Customers kept saying: We'll buy parts of the CDOs, but not the risky parts — the worst 10 percent or 15 percent.

"This is a big problem for Wall Street, because Wall Street has the assembly line going," Eisinger says. "Any hitch is going to be a big problem. It's going to stop the fees and those bonuses at the end of the year."


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This is where the trickery comes in. To explain it, let's go back to the sausage analogy.

Say I'm a sausage grinder. My sausage is selling great. Until one day, my customers say they don't want the ends, the ones with those nasty knots.

Pretty soon, I've got all these end bits piling up on my counter. I'm worried it's going to turn off customers.

So I shove the end bits back in the grinder and make new sausages. Brilliant. Of course, customers don't want those end bits either. So, I throw them back in the grinder.

This works for a while. But eventually, I'm making sausages that are made up entirely of nasty end bits.

"So, this is exactly what happens with sub prime CDOs,"
Bernstein says. "The investment banks take the worst parts of the CDO and they put it into new CDOs, recycling it again and again, until pretty soon, the CDOs that you're left with are made up of the worst parts of the stuff."


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Bet Against The American Dream

http://vimeo.com/10864430

The Magnetar Trade: How One Hedge Fund Helped Keep the Bubble Going
http://www.propublica.org/article/the-magnetar-trade-how-one-hedge-fund-helped-keep-the-housing-bubble-going

PTBe scared of their own that tried to speak the truth

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On a message dated 10-23-2011 12:34 AM a psychic who was going to attend one of the occupy ralleys was stopped from doing so by her guides, who advised that the 'occupy' movement has been infiltrated by those of ill intent.

This link leads to the page, scroll down for the message, which is number 80.

http://spiritualphilosophyandpractice.com/showthread.php?552-3Graces-Predictions/page2

Anyone surprised? To me it stands to reason that 'they' would want to compromise this movement so that it ends up serving their purposes - rather than its original aims.

Simon

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factions at the top who are struggling to decide who will have the most power.

Pray that the will of the One Universal Creator of Love will over come the PTBe
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A few of the groups decided it would be in their best interest to use the innocence of the 99% trying to do the right thing for the World and begin to Divide.
Divide and Conquer

Some of us are destined to sit on the side line and watch and record the event, while other are one the front lines.
Each has it place in battle.
This does not mean the battle is unjust or the battle will be lost.

What is does mean that there are saboteurs and traitors in the battle, just like barbarian predicted.

We should not give up on having a just and honorable society.

PTBe tried to co-op the 1960's, and that too did not turn out like they expected.

Of course PTBe is scared, since there house of card is collapsing, and they own more than exist on the whole planet.
PTBe will try and shift the blame on to the people.

The only option PTBe have to to enslave the planet.
Profit in Prisons


Only if we let them

The art of war says the supreme general is he who wins the war without bloodshed

karmic justice approaches

It stops here.

Peace,

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By Andy Coghlan and Debora MacKenzie

New Scientist
October 19, 2011

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228354.500-revealed--the-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world.html

As protests against financial power sweep the world this week, science may have confirmed the protesters' worst fears. An analysis of the relationships between 43,000 transnational corporations has identified a relatively small group of companies, mainly banks, with disproportionate power over the global economy.

The study's assumptions have attracted some criticism, but complex systems analysts contacted by *New Scientist* say it is a unique effort to untangle control in the global economy. Pushing the analysis further, they say, could help to identify ways of making global capitalism more stable.

The idea that a few bankers control a large chunk of the global economy might not seem like news to New York's Occupy Wall Street movement and protesters elsewhere. But the study, by a trio of complex systems theorists at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich, is the first to go beyond ideology to empirically identify such a network of power. It combines the mathematics long used to model natural systems with comprehensive corporate data to map ownership among the world's transnational corporations (TNCs).

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The Zurich team can. From Orbis 2007, a database listing 37 million companies and investors worldwide, they pulled out all 43,060 TNCs and the share ownerships linking them. Then they constructed a model of which companies controlled others through shareholding networks, coupled with each company's operating revenues, to map the structure of economic power.

The work, to be published in PloS One, revealed a core of 1318 companies with interlocking ownerships (see image). Each of the 1318 had ties to two or more other companies, and on average they were connected to 20. What's more, although they represented 20 per cent of global operating revenues, the 1318 appeared to collectively own through their shares the majority of the world's large blue chip and manufacturing firms -- the "real" economy -- representing a further 60 per cent of global revenues.

When the team further untangled the web of ownership, it found much of it tracked back to a "super-entity" of 147 even more tightly knit companies -- all of their ownership was held by other members of the super-entity - that controlled 40 per cent of the total wealth in the network. "In effect, less than 1 per cent of the companies were able to control 40 per cent of the entire network," says Glattfelder. Most were financial institutions. The top 20 included Barclays Bank, JPMorgan Chase & Co, and The Goldman Sachs Group.

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Crucially, by identifying the architecture of global economic power, the analysis could help make it more stable. By finding the vulnerable aspects of the system, economists can suggest measures to prevent future collapses spreading through the entire economy. Glattfelder says we may need global anti-trust rules, which now exist only at national level, to limit over-connection among TNCs. Bar-Yam says the analysis suggests one possible solution: firms should be taxed for excess interconnectivity to discourage this risk.

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So, the super-entity may not result from conspiracy. The real question, says the Zurich team, is whether it can exert concerted political power. Driffill feels 147 is too many to sustain collusion. Braha suspects they will compete in the market but act together on common interests. Resisting changes to the network structure may be one such common interest.

THE TOP 50 OF THE 147 SUPERCONNECTED COMPANIES

1. Barclays plc
2. Capital Group Companies Inc
3. FMR Corporation
4. AXA
5. State Street Corporation
6. JP Morgan Chase & Co
7. Legal & General Group plc
8. Vanguard Group Inc
9. UBS AG
10. Merrill Lynch & Co Inc
11. Wellington Management Co LLP
12. Deutsche Bank AG
13. Franklin Resources Inc
14. Credit Suisse Group
15. Walton Enterprises LLC
16. Bank of New York Mellon Corp
17. Natixis
18. Goldman Sachs Group Inc
19. T Rowe Price Group Inc
20. Legg Mason Inc
21. Morgan Stanley
22. Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group Inc
23. Northern Trust Corporation
24. Société Générale
25. Bank of America Corporation
26. Lloyds TSB Group plc
27. Invesco plc
28. Allianz SE 29. TIAA
30. Old Mutual Public Limited Company
31. Aviva plc
32. Schroders plc
33. Dodge & Cox
34. Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc*
35. Sun Life Financial Inc
36. Standard Life plc
37. CNCE
38. Nomura Holdings Inc
39. The Depository Trust Company
40. Massachusetts Mutual Life Insurance
41. ING Groep NV
42. Brandes Investment Partners LP
43. Unicredito Italiano SPA
44. Deposit Insurance Corporation of Japan
45. Vereniging Aegon
46. BNP Paribas
47. Affiliated Managers Group Inc
48. Resona Holdings Inc
49. Capital Group International Inc
50. China Petrochemical Group Company

* Lehman still existed in the 2007 dataset used

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Grass root nuts, I hope not
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Income Inequality Is the Achilles Heel in the GOP Strategy to Demonize Occupy Wall Street
Mitchell Bard
Posted: 10/26/11 12:17 AM ET

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"I don't care about that."


That is what Rick Perry said in the New York Times when John Harwood told him his tax plan would increase income inequality. Give Perry credit for his honesty. After all, he just articulated out loud what is the accepted dogma of the modern Tea Party-owned Republican party, which is completely dedicated to protecting the wealthy and corporations on the backs of the (rapidly shrinking) middle class, by way of a religious adherence to far-right free market principles.

But there is a danger to Republicans adopting a "Let them eat cake" approach. By dismissing income equality as a key issue, the GOP is headed for a trip wire the party doesn't seem to see coming.

We see it in their approach to Occupy Wall Street. The GOP strategy seems to be that if they can dismiss the protesters as a bunch of crazies (or "human debris," as the always vile Rush Limbaugh put it), then Americans won't notice the issues underlying the protest.

In the short term, the Republican strategy will probably work. By highlighting the elements that look and sound the most out of the mainstream, average Americans won't be able to relate to the protesters and will be wary of being grouped with them.

But what the Republicans are missing is that the anger underneath the Occupy Wall Street protests isn't limited to the dedicated individuals sleeping in a Lower Manhattan park.

So long as the GOP can frame Occupy Wall Street as an attack on the rich or an attack on capitalism, its appeal will be limited. No matter how tough things are with the U.S. economy, Americans don't hate rich people. On the contrary, they aspire to be rich people.

But the middle class can't become wealthy if the government is, through action and inaction, helping the rich get richer while keeping the middle class down, as it has done for the last 30 years (something Jacob Hacker and Paul Pierson demonstrate in "Winner-Take-All Politics").

And Americans have no use for unfairness. They want there to be a correlation between hard work and success. For the financial executives who caused the 2008 financial crisis, there wasn't even a correlation between success and success. Wall Street bankers made billions of dollars for recklessly devising and selling financial instruments they knew were junk, resulting in a near financial collapse that required a government bailout from the Bush administration.

The resulting recession and economic stagnation hit the middle class hard while leaving the wealthiest Americans untouched and corporations flush with cash. (Paul Krugman provided a great recap earlier this month of the abuses that led to the financial crisis.)

The bottom line is that income inequality has been skyrocketing since Ronald Reagan took office (and accelerated under George W. Bush) behind policies (like massive unpaid-for tax cuts for the wealthy) that had the effect of redistributing income from the middle class upward.

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The key to why the Republicans are miscalculating in dismissing income inequality lies in a telling piece of data Mother Jones provides: The actual distribution of income in the United States is far more unbalanced than Americans think it is, and, as importantly, far, far above what they think it should be.

The Republicans want to claim that the Democrats are engaging in class warfare by trying to let the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy expire, but the Republicans have been waging a class war on behalf of the top ten percent against everyone else for the last 30 years.

It's not about hating on the rich. Nobody begrudges entrepreneurs and hard-working visionaries like Steve Jobs and Warren Buffet their successes. No, the anger underneath Occupy Wall Street is about fairness. And income inequality fostered by government policy is not fair.

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Read more here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mitchell-bard/income-inequality-is-the_b_1031922.html

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Letter from an Anonymous Friend: The Morning After the Attack on the Oakland Commune

We knew that it would happen.

If you live with others in a public space in a city, if you set up shelters in which people can live without owning or renting property, if you set up an outdoor kitchen with which to feed anyone who wants food, if you establish a free school at which anyone can read and learn, if you set up bathroom facilities provided by organizations supporting your activities, if you show solidarity with struggles against police killings and police violence against people of color, against the poor, against women, against queers and transpeople, if you state your determination to defend the space you have created against the threat of eviction, in short—if you work toward organizing ways of living and relating to one another that might challenge those mandated by capitalism, your efforts will eventually be crushed by the police.

We know this because we know that the question is not whether the police are “part of the 99%,” on the basis of their salary. What is called the 99% is ruptured by many divisions. Among these is the dividing line that runs between those who want to change the world and those who uphold the status quo, between those who work to undermine the brutal order of property and those who work to enforce it. For those who transform the world by challenging capitalist economic and social relations, working to displace and overturn them, the police are one among many enemies. We know it is their job to destroy what we create, and it is no surprise when they do that.

At 4:30 am on October 25, Occupy Oakland was raided by more than 500 police from multiple counties. From a comrade who was there:

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At the time of this writing I am filled with rage. Occupy Oakland, on its second week, was raided by an overwhelming force of approximately 800 police in riot gear. I was there, ready to defend when police from all entrances to Oscar Grant Plaza rushed in with sticks and began beating people. Their tactics were simple but effective: rush in with overwhelming numbers and push out those that intended to stay for a fight, slowly crush resilience of those who took up the tactic of civil disobedience by linking arms and protecting the camp. They beat people with sticks, shot people with rubber bullets, obliterated ear-drums with flash-bang grenades, and choked them with tear gas.


What wrenches on these mornings (so many, for so many of us), what presses out on our temples, constricts our chests, fills our throats so that it can’t be properly spoken is a contradiction: we knew that this would happen; we can’t accept that it has happened. We know, insofar as we struggle, that our struggle will be repressed. But no amount of knowing can fortify against the sickness that we feel every time an army of cops rolls in to brutalize and arrest our friends and comrades.

All the tents are down, pots are strewn everywhere, the library scattered, the garden stomped, the Commune is in ruins. “Though it fed thousands for free and welcomed the city’s desperately poor homeless population, this public park can hopefully now return to its natural state of being completely empty.” Dozens of smug assholes and their batons surround the emptiness they prefer to the fragile possibilities that were created, getting paid overtime to chat across their barricades with idiots who think the cops are on the same side as those they just attacked and threw in jail, while others hurl insults against dead ears.

The Oakland Commune matters not because it could have lasted any longer than it did and not because of how many cops it took to tear it down. It matters because for as long as it was there it was evidence that the impossible resides in the heart of our cities, amongst those who already live together on the streets, amongst those willing to live with them. It isn’t that this is “Round One” of a longer fight. It isn’t that those who lived and worked there all day and all night “will be back.” It isn’t that this is “just the beginning.” It isn’t just the beginning because it’s been going on for a long time, because the history of struggle is the history of capitalism. Because the history of capitalism, in its unfolding, in the movement of its contradiction with itself, is the coming into being of communism. If we won’t be back in Oscar Grant Plaza, if the Oakland Commune won’t be there as it was for two weeks, that is because we are everywhere, and the substance of history articulates itself unceasingly across the movement of what it creates. That is not an abstraction; it’s a letter of solidarity from Cairo, arriving the afternoon before the tents are torn down: “An entire generation across the globe has grown up realizing, rationally and emotionally, that we have no future in the current order of things….So we stand with you not just in your attempts to bring down the old but to experiment with the new.” Our true loves are everywhere, a friend replies. We won’t be back because we’re not going anywhere.

For a long time we have dreamed the end of capitalism. The twenty-first century is the time in which that dream will come true. We are waking up, and we are learning again, among one another, how to use our tired bodies. This is what it feels like to wake in a tent on the grass of Oscar Grant Plaza. Comrades in Baltimore write, “this occupation is inevitable, but we have to make it.” Nothing of that dialectic can be displaced by the police.

“The revolution” does not exist. It is not a horizon to be struggled toward, and no movement in the history of struggles has “failed.” The real movement is the movement of bodies, working on what exists. If the occupation is inevitable, it is because it is what is happening everywhere, now. If we have to make it, it is because our bodies are the material collective that it is. If it is repressed, its inevitability remains. The twenty-first century is the time of that inevitability, because the limit it surges against, repression, is also the dynamic of its movement: in its death throes, the openly repressive forces of capital are the manifestation of its own weakness, returning people to the destitution from which they revolt. “This occupation is inevitable, but we have to make it,” because in a time of mass debt, of mass foreclosures, of ruthless austerity, of sprawling slums, there will be no alternative to the material necessity of taking what we need and using it amongst ourselves.

None of this makes a difference this morning, while the enemy guards its ruins and our comrades are in jail. But if we knew this morning would come, we also know that the clocks have already stopped, that the real movement continues, and that time is on our side.

http://anticapitalprojects.wordpress.com/2011/10/25/letter-from-an-anonymous-friend-on-the-attack-on-the-oakland-commune/

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Gandhi’s Wings: Occupy Wall Street and the Redistribution of Anxiety
AlterNet / By Rob Johnson
October 26, 2011 |

It's my home -- last night I dreamt that I grew wings

I found a place where they could hear me when I sing

--"Wings" by Josh Ritter


Occupy Wall Street is about anxiety, and the courage of young people to fly into conflict on Gandhi's wings. This is the noble legacy of civil disobedience on display at Zuccotti Park. We are seeing that anxiety channeled by courage can transform a society.

What does anxiety look like? You can see this drama played out as the demonstrators meditate surrounded by police whose anxiety is palpable, perhaps because the police cannot figure out which side they should really be on. You see it and hear it and feel it from all of the media pundits who are trying to "figure out," discredit, or dismiss OWS. You see it in the angry denunciations emanating from Wall Street financiers who beat their breasts and cling to the image of their legitimacy because they work so hard that they deserve their top 0.1% style mega incomes. (Doctors and tool and die makers work long and hard too, but their skill and hard work and education, often far beyond that of a financier, do not produce 7 and 8 figure incomes). You feel it in the desperate rhetoric of George Will, as he tries to discredit Elisabeth Warren's assertion of the obvious, namely that the very successful are highly dependent on society and did not create their wealth and achievements in a vacuum. You sense it in the desperate smearing by David Brooks, whose efforts to behead this movement lie in planting the seeds that this protest is about anti Semitism rather than an unjust society.

The Wind Cries Change
From the corners of power, people who like to see themselves as adults act like spoiled children demanding that the citizens protesting create concrete plans and policies to alleviate the anxieties of pundits – the same ones who have been berating or ignoring the plight of far too many for far too long. They deny that right now the world looks a lot more like the urban desperation of David Simon's brilliant "The Wire" than the lifestyles of the rich and famous on display in the newspapers. Media enablers of denial may insist that the protesters "become constructive." But they have little leverage in making their scolding request given the destructive role they have played in masking our deteriorating reality. The savvy young protesters will likely sigh and laugh at these pathetic gestures from those outed for their complicity in making the mess our society has become.

Change, we are all finding, is very stressful. Even inevitable and healthy change.

We have reached a turning point. There is no more convincing people to play along in the "heads I win, tails you lose" game. We now plainly see that Atlas is strip mining our nation rather than carrying us on his shoulders of enterprise. The hero image of the business leader-provider is crumbling along with the core fabric of our society. Polls show that NYC citizens, Democrats and Republicans, and even Tea Party participants are all largely supportive of the protests. In Europe, many are ecstatic that America is finally objecting to the corruption at home that has been sliming the world for a long, long time. Etta James's "At Last" is being sung in the salons of Berlin and Paris.

Our secular religion of individualist economics is disintegrating in the face of a nightmarish experience. As the brilliant BBC Documentary film series by Adam Curtis entitled "The Trap: What Happened to Our Idea of Freedom" illuminates, the every-man-for-himself concept of society and freedom creates a horrible void. The Horatio Alger myth has been refuted and shattered by reality. That old myth was attractive emotionally-- promising to resolve anxiety by teaching that if you put your head down and worked hard you could control your own fate. But that lie was exposed when Wall Street blew itself up and millions lost their jobs, their homes, and their pensions through no fault of their own. The reckless financiers took us all down with them, and there was no way to insulate ourselves from their casino games and their manipulation of government. And the games just go on. The menace of high frequency trading is only the latest example of a system rigged against us. But we have begun to question a perverted notion of freedom, where the only thing we protect is the rights of the powerful to plunder the commons. We see that this "freedom" is so destructive that it is threatening the very integrity of our much-hallowed capital markets. What an irony! Compulsive greed cannot resist consuming its own monuments.

Read more here: http://www.alternet.org/story/152874/gandhi%E2%80%99s_wings%3A_occupy_wall_street_and_the_redistribution_of_anxiety

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Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes!!!!!

Moving Money: Investing in a New World
by Shane Claiborne 10-27-2011 02:55 pm

Nearly a decade ago, we threw a party on Wall Street where we gave away $10,000 outside the Stock Exchange. The money had formerly been invested in stocks but was divested, broken into thousands of small bills and coins that were dumped at the NYSE entrance, where we invited homeless folks from around New York to join the party.

As the opening bell kicked off the day’s trading, we blew a ram’s horn and announced the Jubilee vision, and money fell from the sky. You can catch a few glimpses of it here:


The ancient Jubilee was God’s alternative to the patterns of inequality. It was a systematic interruption of injustice — where property was redistributed, debts were forgiven, and slaves were set free. It was God’s way of making sure masses of people do not live in poverty while a handful of folks live however they wish.

No doubt Wall Street has some things to learn about Jubilee. Jubilee was God’s alternative to the patterns of Wall Street.

As the Occupy Wall Street movement catches the world’s attention, those of us who are critical of Wall Street have a responsibility. We can’t just be defined by what we are against, but should be known by what we are for.

After all, the word “protest” originally meant “public declaration”. It wasn’t just about being against something, but it was about declaring something new and better. “Protest” shares the same root as “testify”.

It’s time to protest-ify.

Gandhi spoke about the need for a “constructive program” — insisting that the best critique of what is wrong is the practice of something better. So his movement started making their own clothes and marching to the sea to get their own salt. They were building a new society in the shell of the old one.

I think the Occupy movement is off to a good start, and will continue to be a catalyst for change … as long as it stays nonviolent and humble.

The Occupy folks may not have all the answers but they are stirring up the right questions. Saying “no” to the way things are is the first step towards a better future.

Something is wrong with a world that continues to privatize wealth and subsidize debt.

There is an entire generation that is saying no to a world where the average worker makes $7 an hour while the average CEO makes over $1500 an hour.

The world is saying no to the patterns where 1% of the world is using up 36% of its wealth.

We can do better. And we must.

But saying no to Wall Street is only the beginning. We need to create alternatives to Wall Street.

I got excited this week when I heard about “Move Your Money Day,” one of the concrete constructive-program suggestions coming out of the Occupy Wall Street movement.

On Nov. 5 folks all over the world will divest from Wall Street and its banks … in order to invest in a better world.

Ideologies alone are not enough. There came a point in the movement to abolish slavery where ideology required responsibility. As one abolitionist said, “The only way to be a good slave-owner is to refuse to be a slave-owner.” To truly be against slavery also meant that you didn’t drink sugar in your tea, because sugar was produced with slave labor.

So on November 5, my wife and I will be joining the “Move Your Money” celebration, moving our money from Bank of America to the non-profit credit union here in Philadelphia.

It is one small step away from the vicious cycle that continues to see money transfer from the increasingly poor to the increasingly rich.

It is trying to take to heart Jesus’ command to “Get the log out” of my own eye.

It is a move towards Gandhi’s call to “Be the change you want to see in the world.”

It’s one little step towards being less of a hypocrite tomorrow than I am today.

Although moving our $2,000 savings may not break the Bank, we realize that we are one little drop in what we hope is becoming a river of justice flowing through the streets of New York City and 1,000 cities around the world.

Enough small things can become a tipping point for massive change. When Rosa Parks decided not to move from her seat on that bus in Montgomery, she said one little, “No” that changed the world. So can we.

Can you imagine if the universities started relocating their endowments?

What if religious denominations moved their retirement funds?

It would be an honor to be a member of the post-Wall-Street Jubilee generation. :heart

http://blog.sojo.net/2011/10/27/moving-money-investing-in-a-new-world/

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Single navyman faces riot police after they fire tear gas. he holds a copy of the US constitution in occupy oakland
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using sound cannon
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“8:10pm Pacific: Reports via Twitter that Oakland police are bringing out a “sound cannon,” a non-lethal weapon that shoots intense rays of sound to disperse crowds. Not sure yet if this is true. I’ve covered this for NPR and Boing Boing previously, and experienced a controlled test of it myself at a military location. The device is no joke. This reporter just confirmed the presence of an LRAD device on the scene, and OPD saying they intend to use it if crowd does not disperse.”

http://www.politicususa.com/en/police-censorship-occupy-oakland
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News stations is reporting, tear gas, flash-bang
http://www.ktvu.com/video/29587140/index.html
http://oaklandlocal.com/article/theres-riot-going-occupy-oakland-march

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History of what humans think of bank interest rates

Old Testament The Prophet Ezekiel includes usury in a list of “abominable things,” along with rape, murder, robbery and idolatry. Ezekiel 18:19-13.
Jews are forbidden to lend at interest to one another. Exodus 22:25; Deuteronomy 23:19-20, Leviticus 25:35-37.
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1750 B.C. The Code of Hammurabi regulates the interest that can be charged on a loan. Historical records indicate that many loans were made below the legal limit.
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800-600 B.C. Both Plato and Aristotle believed usury was immoral and unjust. The Greeks at first regulate interest, and then deregulate it. After deregulation, there was so much unregulated debt that Athenians were sold into slavery and threatened revolt.
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443 B.C. The Romans adopt the “Twelve Tables” and cap interest at 8 1/3%.
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1306-1321 Dante pens “The Inferno,” in which he places usurers at the lowest ledge in the seventh circle of hell – lower than murderers.
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OPD officers who were seen taking photographs of the wreckage on their personal mobile phones laughed and smiled with each other as they did so

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2011/10/25/18694945.php

where has it all gone?
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ferried cash in Baghdad for the CPA and the American embassy from 2003 until 2008—all told handling, he said, about $40 billion in cash.

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Follow-up to mt7's Occupy Oakland report:

OPD uses Tear gas, Flash bangs, Bean bag rounds & Rubber bullets against protesters at Occupy Oakland:



Notice (1) the protester in the wheelchair stuck in the middle of this war zone and (2) protesters attempting to assist someone who was wounded on the ground that required medical attention, as these shameful cops toss a flash bang to disrupt those helping to remove this casualty from the scene.

Veteran Shot In The Head By Rubber Bullet At Occupy Oakland:



Veterans for Peace member Scott Olsen was wounded by a less-lethal round fired by either San Francisco Sheriffs deputies or Palo Alto Police on October 25, 2011 at 14th Street and Broadway in Downtown Oakland.


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Veterans for Peace member Scott Olsen was wounded by a less-lethal round fired by either San Francisco Sheriffs deputies or Palo Alto Police on October 25, 2011 at 14th Street and Broadway in Downtown Oakland.


Oakland Police Critically Injure Iraq War Vet During Occupy March

WASHINGTON -- The Oakland Police Department fired tear gas on Occupy Oakland demonstrators Tuesday night as they marched through downtown, determined to reclaim the camp that officers destroyed that morning. As the marchers zigged and zagged in search of safe ground, authorities bombarded and barricaded the activists into a drawn-out stalemate that resulted in further arrests.

The local police's use of force seriously injured an Occupy activist and Iraq War veteran.

Scott Olsen, 24, remains sedated on a respirator, in stable but critical condition at Oakland’s Highland Hospital after being hit in the head with a police projectile. :rant :flame

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Olsen was never injured during his two tours in Iraq.

UPDATE: 4:20 p.m. -- New video posted to YouTube suggests that Olsen was hit at close range with a tear-gas canister. After demonstrators rush to Olsen's aid, an Oakland cop waits a few beats before lobbing a second tear-gas canister at the crowd. They are attending to Olsen when the canister explodes, sending smoke everywhere.

Read more and see video here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/26/iraq-vet-oakland-police-tear-gas_n_1033159.html

Yes, indeedy, barb - we all need to pray for our country because there is something seriously wrong with us.

We, as a nation, have forgotten the Golden Rule and most everything else Jesus taught.


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Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are they who mourn,
for they shall be comforted.

Blessed are the meek,
for they shall inherit the earth.

Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they shall be satisfied.

Blessed are the merciful,
for they shall obtain mercy.

Blessed are the pure of heart,
for they shall see God.

Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they shall be called children of God.

Blessed are they who are persecuted for the sake of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.


Gospel of St. Matthew 5:3-10

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Listen to this oakland PTBe is justifying this as a riot.
newspeak for peace :flame

is Albuquerque next?
here is what they do there when you want to follow the Consitution
http://www.tpalexanders.com/2011/10/19/the-constitution-breaks-bad-in-albuquerque/
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US cops tried to erase online evidence of brutality

http://rt.com/news/google-report-police-brutality-767/
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The people speak
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And
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20125515-503544/poll-43-percent-agree-with-views-of-occupy-wall-street/
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How I feel, as a United States Marine, about what occurred in Oakland.

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More than 1400 comments.

Maybe this generation has experienced its Kent State?

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Crowd control used at Oakland are prohibited in war zones
http://www.businessinsider.com/marine-with-crowd-control-training-points-out-oakland-used-methods-prohibited-in-war-zones-2011-10?utm_source=twbutton&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=bi
Egyptians to march in Tahrir to US embassy to protest Oakland crackdown
http://thinkprogress.org/special/2011/10/27/354823/egyptians-will-march-on-embassy-oakland/
Marine speaks out and Tea party want to bill Occupy $8,000
PTBe complain of cost, well I say when the costs of Occupy match 100+ trillion
that you have gambled away and are expecting the 99% to pay.

After all fair and balanced, right?

Rich smart and wrong
http://www.mediaite.com/online/one-per-center-peter-schiff-visits-occupy-wall-street-produces-18-minutes-of-civility/
Peter Schiff (began at Lehman Brothers brokerage) tries to justify that Washington is the problem (straw man argument).

Who paid the lobbyist that changed the banking law to there favor and our crisis (wall street).

Who stacked Government jobs like Secretary of the Treasury / Fed chairman / Politicians /etc... with cronies (wall street).

Who created the biggest ponzi scheme in history, know as collateralize debt obligations "CDO" (wallstreet).

Who used co-erosion and influence with their cronies to bail out the gambling debt (wallstreet)

The Greed of this man know no boundaries and he will spin anything to keep casino capitalism without regulations (that is why he hates government).

This smak talking man is trying to sing a our tune with a little spin, reminds me of:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humpty_Dumpty
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Humpty appears in Lewis Carroll's Through the Looking-Glass (1872), where he discusses semantics and pragmatics with Alice.

“I don’t know what you mean by ‘glory,’ ” Alice said.
Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. “Of course you don’t—till I tell you. I meant ‘there’s a nice knock-down argument for you!’ ”
“But ‘glory’ doesn’t mean ‘a nice knock-down argument’,” Alice objected.
“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.”
“The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”
“The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master that’s all.”
Alice was too much puzzled to say anything, so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again. “They’ve a temper, some of them—particularly verbs, they’re the proudest—adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs—however, I can manage the whole lot! Impenetrability! That’s what I say!


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Break up banking, move to non profit credit unions


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Tech-Savvy Occupy Protesters Use Cellphone Video, Social Networking To Publicize Police Abuse

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George Orwell once wrote that if you want a vision of the future, "imagine a boot stamping on a human face -- forever." Governments have suppressed citizen dissent for as long as there have been governments and citizens to dissent against them. But over the last decade, it has become increasingly likely that someone will be there to document Orwell's predicted face-stamping with a cellphone and then post it to YouTube for the world to see. It's getting increasingly difficult for governments to get away with suppressing dissent.

Full Story>>>
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/2 ... ?ir=Canada

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Reward Offered For Name Of Policeman Who Shot Veteran Scott Olsen In Oakland Protest

Robert Johnson and Linette Lopez|Oct. 29, 2011, 4:42 PM|1,494|54


A $4,000 reward has been offered for the identity of the police officer who may have been responsible for the injuries sustained by former Iraq war veteran Scott Olsen in the Oakland protests last week.

Speculation is running rampant online and Anonymous has already provided a name and home address for the individual currently suspected.

I've received several documents and links with highly sensitive information directly from Anonymous via temporary, expired email addresses.

SCMagazine has some of the Anonymous links I've received and quotes the movement:

"'The time has come to retaliate against Oakland police via all non-violent means, beginning with 'doxing' of individual officers and particularly higher-ups involved in the department's conduct of late," read an Anonymous statement, posted to Pastebin.

An Oakland police spokesperson could not immediately be reached for comment.

Doxing references the public release of information about individuals."

It looks like the public, and the Occupy movement, will continue pursuing the individual's identity. In the meantime, a group called #OccupyMARINES has updated their list of demands and called on members of all military branches to lend their protection and support.

In addition #OccupyMARINES has added its voice to the cry for Oakland Mayor Jean Quan's resignation.

In Response To The Oakland Shooting Of Scott Olsen OccupyMARINES Request The Following

Our Brother Marine Corps Veteran Scott Olsen Remains In The Hospital Under Critical Condition From Sustaining A Blow To The Head From An Oakland Police Department Riot Officer Projectile Early Wednesday Morning October 25, 2011.

OccupyMARINES Have Watched Closely The Response From The OPD, The Mayor, The Governor, And All Others Involved In The Oakland Attack On Peaceful Demonstrators; We Have Observed These Pathetic Cowards Refuse Responsibility For Their Actions That May Very Well Alter The Course Of Our Brother’s Life. Additionally, Many Other Police Departments Nationwide Deploy Similar Riot Tactics Against Demonstrators Honoring The OWS 8, A Peaceful Declaration Of Assembly; We Will Organize Peacefully Against These Departments.

In Response To The Oakland Shooting Of Scott Olsen OccupyMARINES Request The Following:


The GOP Cowards Responsible For Influencing This Event Be Brought To Justice. Track Names And Photos Of Each And Email Them To Us
Identify The 300 OPD Riot Officers By Name, Photo, And Badge Number With Boots On The Ground Engaging In Illegal Excessive Force Acts Against Peaceful Americans For Prosecution.
Identify The Officer Responsible For Harming Scott Olsen By Name And Photo For Prosecution.
The Honorable Resignation Of Oakland Mayor Jean Quan And Acting Police Chief Howard Jordan.
A Public Apology From California Governor Edmund G. Brown Jr. For The Unlawful Injury Of Our Brother Scott Olsen.
We Fully Intend To Make An Example, Legally And Peacefully, Of The Cowards Associated With Harming An American Veteran. We Will Not Stop Until Our Aforementioned Demands Are Met In Their Entirety.

God Be With Scott Olsen, We Pray A Speedy Recovery For Him And His Mother.

Semper Fidelis Scott Olsen


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/a-reward-has-been-offered-for-an-officers-name-and-occupymarines-update-requests-2011-10#ixzz1cEax8rNp

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Occupy London could be protected by Christian ring of prayer :mrgreen:

Coalition of Christian groups plan to prevent forcible attempts to remove tents outside St Paul's Cathedral
Mark Townsend
guardian.co.uk, Saturday 29 October 2011 14.57 EDT

Christian groups have drawn up plans to protect protesters by forming a ring of prayer around the camp outside St Paul's Cathedral, should an attempt be made to forcibly remove them. :agree

As the storm of controversy over the handling of the Occupy London Stock Exchange demonstration deepened on Saturday, Christian activists said it was their duty to stand up for peaceful protest in the absence of support from St Paul's. One Christian protester, Tanya Paton, said: "We represent peace, unity and love. A ring of prayer is a wonderful symbol." :heart

With senior officials at St Paul's apparently intent on seeking an injunction to break up the protest, the director of the influential religious thinktank Ekklesia, Jonathan Bartley, said the cathedral's handling of the protest had been a "car crash" and predicted more high-profile resignations from the Church of England.

The canon chancellor of St Paul's, Dr Giles Fraser, and the Rev Fraser Dyer, who works as a chaplain at the cathedral, have already stepped down over the decision to pursue legal action to break up the camp. :clap

Read more here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/oct/29/christians-defend-occupy-london-protest

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Who shot Scott Olsen at Occupy Oakland?

Video reveals San Francisco Sheriff officers on front line when Marine
Scott Olsen was shot at Occupy Oakland. An Oakland officer can be heard
on the loud speaker giving commands. More photos below.

Center police line when Scott Olsen was shot: San Francisco Sheriff Emergency Services Unit (ESU) officers Ceciel Yambao, Scott Bergstresser and Hugo Aparicio.

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San Francisco Sheriff's officers on center front police line, during shooting of Marine Scott Olsen have been verified, by way of an official list of officers.
They are San Francisco Sheriff Emergency Services Unit (ESU) officers Scott Bergstresser, Ceciel Yambao and Hugo Aparicio.


OAKLAND, Calif. -- US Marines are gathering evidence to prosecute the officers who shot fellow Marine Scott Olsen, member of Veterans for Peace, at Occupy Oakland on Tuesday night. Scott was standing in front of police to protect the people behind him, when police fired directly at him.

Scott suffered a skull fracture when a police projectile struck him in the head. After Scott was down, and people rushed to help him yelling for medics. Police threw a flash grenade at Scott after he was unconscious and bleeding from the mouth and head.

A video reveals that the San Francisco Sheriff's Emergency Services Unit (ESU) were on the front police line at Occupy Oakland when the tear gas canisters were fired. The video below shows San Francisco Sheriff ESU team member Scott Bergstresser, (whose uniform has two stripes) next to officer Ceciel Yambao.

"Multiple copies of the videos used to ID Yambao, Bergstresser and officer Hugo Aparicio are on servers. Too late for YouTube takedowns," according to a Twitter message today.

"Two questions that Bergstresser should be asked under oath: Did you fire directly at Scott? Did you throw a grenade?" At minimum, Bergstresser is a witness.

The video reveals one of the officers striking his baton at a disabled woman before the gas attack began. An Oakland officer in the background can be heard giving commands on a loud speaker.

A separate series of photos details the events when the teargas was fired:

Read more (and see pics and video) here: http://bsnorrell.blogspot.com/2011/10/video-who-shot-scott-olsen-at-occupy.html

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Top US foreclosure law firm threw Halloween party where staff dressed as homeless, foreclosed-upon Americans

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Cost of Libya two billion dollars per day, like who authorize this.... oh ya oil companies
http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2011/03/28/the-real-cost-of-u-s-in-libya-two-billion-dollars-per-day/

Leading Veterans group demand investigation


Goldman use bailout funds to crush low income neighborhood bank
The got 10 billion in our fund and


Class war
http://nymag.com/news/frank-rich/class-war-2011-10/

mainstream media's manipulation of Tuesday night's police brutality
http://www.disinfo.com/2011/10/abc-and-cbs-news-both-cut-away-due-to-technical-difficulties-at-onset-of-oakland-police-violence/

protest do change things
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2043576/London-Riots-1381-Blood-soaked-Peasants-Revolt-changed-England-forever.html#ixzz1cFK91nRS

Citigroup dirty
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/opini ... d=fb-share

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From senior United States Senator
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Banks own the place

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/29/dick-durbin-banks-frankly_n_193010.html

Now US Cops have UAV's that they want to arm with guns
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"The MK-III also has more lethal options available, capable of carrying either a 40mm or 37mm grenade launcher or 12 gauge shotgun with laser designator."

http://www.click2houston.com/news/29619788/detail.html

This is not the first time Politicians have trashed veterans


From:
http://www.lafayette.edu/about/news/2011/10/20/mikhail-gorbachev-says-uprisings-signal-an-emerging-new-world-order/
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“We are reaping the consequences of a strategy that is not conducive to cooperation and partnership, to living in a new global situation,”
“The world needs goals that will bring people together,”
“Some people in the United States were pushing the idea of creating a global American empire, and that was a mistake from the start. Other people in America are now giving thought to the future of their country. The big banks, the big corporations, are still paying the same big bonuses to their bosses. Was there ever a crisis for them? . . . I believe America needs its own perestroika.”


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Literally: Restructuring

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perestroika

Arrested for reading the constitution
http://www.tpalexanders.com/2011/10/19/the-constitution-breaks-bad-in-albuquerque/
Blame not the government but the PTBe that started this with 911 & patriot act

Straight talk about wall street
We are looking at 1 billion to elect a President, where to you think that money comes from?
Bank and corporation money has to be ban from politics.

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This weekend



Denver



A call to do the right thing:

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Not a Joke, 21 year old photographer who was in a tree during protest was hit 15 times by rubber bullets
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Sound Like reasonable set of requests



Look for wedge issue like voter registration in 2012, as false flags

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2011/10/voter_id_laws_their_proponents_should_have_to_answer_for_the_ugl.single.html

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Post Re: Either you are a rebel or a slave - Occupy Wallstreet
http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/ar ... paragraph2

Yesterday Anderson Cooper wondered where the Occupy movement is headed, what with the snow and the winter, and Michael Moore had an answer: "The snow and the winter is not going to stop the collective anger," he said from Occupy Oakland, while several supporters behind him shook their heads in agreement. "I think it will only harden peoples' resolve." And when Cooper wondered if candidates would "rise up" from the movement, or if the Democratic Party would be impacted? Moore explained it further: "This movement is so beyond, 'Hey let's get this candidate elected.' Those days are over... we've all participated... What did we get? Where are we? We're in the worst shape we have been in this country that I have seen in my lifetime."

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