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 Study: Flu Shots Make You Sicker: ‘conspiracy’ vindicated 
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Post Study: Flu Shots Make You Sicker: ‘conspiracy’ vindicated
Yes: we were not paranoid: they really were trying to kill us with the H1N1 ‘pandemic’ vaccine of 2008-09, the one mandated by WHO and produced by Baxter to ‘prevent’ a worldwide swine flu outbreak, the outbreak that never actually materialized after medical personnel and Jane Burgermeister pushed back and refused the inoculations. (Funny about that: the Big Bad Pandemic went *poof* when the inoculation program whithered.)

In fact, a new Canadian CDC study shows it caused those who actually got the jab to come down with H1N1 sooner and more frequently than those who did not get the vaccine. A test on vaccinated ferrets showed the critters got sicker when exposed to H1N1 than unvaccinated ferrets. Hmmmmm……

http://www.activistpost.com/2012/09/study-confirms-flu-shot-makes-you-sicker.html (And a tip of the hat to Rense.com!)

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Vancouver researcher Dr. Danuta Skowronski led a team of researchers questioning certain flu virus events that seemed to impact people who received the 2008-09 flu vaccine. Dr. Skowronski, incidentally, is an influenza expert with the B.C. Center for Disease Control.


What captivated Dr. Skowronski’s interest was the fact that those who were vaccinated with the H1N1 pandemic flu virus were the ones who were infected with it rather than people who did not receive the H1N1 flu vaccine. Initially that phenomenon was called the “Canadian problem” since research outside of Canada did not come up with similar findings. The real ‘kicker’ was that five studies performed in several Canadian provinces found the same results: H1N1 vaccination correlated with pandemic flu virus infection.


Apparently there were some doubts about ‘anecdotal’ findings, so Skowronski’s research team did a study with ferrets. That study’s results were presented at the Interscience Conference on Antimicrobial Agents and Chemotherapy. What researchers found after working with 32 ferrets was the vaccinated group became significantly sicker than the controls. Eventually, all ferrets recovered.


The study was blinded, i.e., researchers didn’t know which ferrets received the 2008 flu shot. Half the ferrets received the flu shot and the balance were given a placebo injection. Then all ferrets were infected with the H1N1 virus. Those ferrets that were vaccinated became sicker than the non-vaccinated ferrets. Dr. Skowronski said, “The findings are consistent with the increased risk that we saw in the human studies.”


It boggles the mind – but the data don’t lie. And yes, testing on ferrets is considered the gold standard for vaccine testing.

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Selene


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Thanks for posting this, Selene!

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Flu shot issue may not be ‘Canadian problem’ after all: study

Helen Branswell
Published Sunday, Sep. 09, 2012 05:51PM EDT

Last updated Sunday, Sep. 09, 2012 07:46PM EDT


A strange vaccine-related phenomenon spotted at the start of the 2009 flu pandemic may well have been real, a new study suggests.

Canadian researchers noticed in the early weeks of the pandemic that people who got a flu shot for the 2008-2009 winter seemed to be more likely to get infected with the pandemic virus than people who hadn’t received a flu shot.

Five studies done in several provinces showed the same puzzling and unsettling results. But initially research outside of Canada did not, and the effect was dismissed as “the Canadian problem.”

News of the unexpected findings broke at a time when countries in North America and parts of Europe were getting ready to start vaccinating their populations against the pandemic virus.

Some jurisdictions were also trying to figure out whether to offer the seasonal flu vaccine they had purchased — similar to the 2008-2009 shot — along with the pandemic vaccine, in case the seasonal flu viruses continued to circulate. Quebec opted not to offer the seasonal vaccine because of the concerns raised by the studies.

Many people in the flu research and public health communities found the whole event unhelpful, and many rejected the findings. Some suggested if there was a problem, it might have been with the flu vaccine used in Canada, because the problem wasn’t seen elsewhere.

But a new study suggests the findings may indeed have been real.

A group of Canadian researchers recreated the event in ferrets, the best animal model for predicting how influenza will act in humans. They worked with animals because it would have been unethical to subject people to the health risks the work entailed.

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Two theories exist about what might have been behind the effect, said Ms. Skowronski, who favours the first.

That theory relates to the fact that the 2008 vaccine protected against an H1N1 virus that was related to — but not similar enough to — the pandemic virus to generate antibodies that would neutralize it. The thinking is that might actually have facilitated infection with the pandemic virus.

Ms. Skowronski likened the mechanism to what happens with dengue viruses. People who have been infected with one subtype of dengue don’t develop immunity to the other three. In fact, they are more at risk of developing a life-threatening form of dengue if they are infected with one of the other strains.

Ms. Skowronski called the second theory the infection block hypothesis. Having a bout of the flu gives the infected person antibodies that may be able, for a time, to fend off other strains; flu shots only protect against the strains they contain. So under this theory, people who didn’t have flu in 2008 because they got a flu shot may have been less well armed against the pandemic virus.

If the first theory is right, the strange effect seen in 2009 might only occur in a pandemic in which the new virus was related to a circulating human flu virus, Ms. Skowronski admitted.

If that’s correct — and she stressed it’s only a theory — a virus with a hemagglutinin protein that humans haven’t been exposed to before might not trigger this type of phenomenon. (The hemagglutinin is the protein on the exterior of a flu virus that gives it the H number in its name.)

“My own opinion, my own feeling would be that if you have a completely different hemagglutinin like H5 or H7 ... you may not see that,” Ms. Skowronski said.

“But who knows, frankly? The wise man knows he knows nothing when it comes to influenza, so you always have to be cautious in speculating.”



Read more here: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/hea ... le4530649/

Helen Branswell is a well respected reporter in the Influenza community - especially Avian.

This is an important finding and a very important story, IMHO.

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