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Prepping From The Golden Thread
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simple simon
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Joined: Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:54 am Posts: 1502 Location: London
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 Prepping From The Golden Thread
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Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:16 pm |
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Selene
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Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:06 am Posts: 640 Location: Music of the Spheres
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 Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 2009 5.1
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Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:58 pm |
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Lynnwood
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Joined: Sun May 03, 2009 11:57 pm Posts: 1563
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Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:13 pm |
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Bluebonnet
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Joined: Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:59 am Posts: 6532 Location: Friendswood, TX
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Simon - All the suggestions above are great and there are some excellent threads here to help you prep. Yes, most of them are geared to avian influenza - but the strategy works either way. I would encourage you to check out these threads: What to Prep if you have 24 hours The 72-hour survival kit Listening to advice from a katrina survivor 100 items that disappear first in a disaster. The first thing to prep is your mind. Once you get your mind around your disaster of choice, you can then begin to think rationally and devise a strategy that works for YOU. Because I live in Hurricane Country I begin to prep for June 1 now. Each month when I go to the store: Week 1 - I add a can of veggies, a can of soup, and a can of fruit to the grocery list for the week. Week 2 - I will add a bottle of propane (for my stove, lantern, etc), some medications or new items to the first aid kit, crackers, jam, jelly, honey. Week 3 - Water, water, water Week 4 - I will add salt, pepper, condiments, yeast, flour, etc. Then I begin again the next month. So by the time June 1 arrives, I don't have to go to the grocery, Sam's, Walmart, etc. with the hysterical masses. Unlike some here, I don't prep for a year or two - that is my personal choice. I have enough preps for two people for 6 months and can easily stretch it to 9-12 months with some severe rationing. Good luck! 
_________________ The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little. - FDR
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Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:39 pm |
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Grist von Zweifel
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 Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 2009 5.1
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Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:28 pm |
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Lynnwood
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Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:41 pm |
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Grist von Zweifel
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Joined: Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:20 pm Posts: 271 Location: Lands of the Osage Nation
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 Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 2009 5.1
My recommendations I doubt you'll like. Stop going vertical altogether. Believe me, as is it's all going to wind up in a broken mess/pile on the floor after the first earthquake. Buildings fall down. Your shelves are doomed. Your plastic bags of legumes and pasta are too fragile, your liquids and labels and dry goods too close and too high off the deck. You need to get large stackable rubbermaid style tubs and trash cans and 5 gal seal-able buckets that can be stacked at or near ground level and able to be quickly loaded in your vehicle for bug-out or hiding deeper in or underneath your house. It would take you precious hours to repack that lovely larder milady. Think low to the ground, a little less flagship-like and quickly mobile. Out of sight of curious neighbors and onlookers NOW would be very wise as well. Things are going to get unfriendly between the "haves" and the "have-nots" in coming days. You just graduated to well advertised (window beside stash) "have" status. I'm sorry to be the trumpet of doomish note, but we're talking survival my friend. Fearsome words for a fearsome world.
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Mon Jan 04, 2010 6:08 pm |
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Selene
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Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:06 am Posts: 640 Location: Music of the Spheres
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Mon Jan 04, 2010 6:38 pm |
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Lynnwood
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Joined: Sun May 03, 2009 11:57 pm Posts: 1563
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Mon Jan 04, 2010 6:45 pm |
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Selene
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Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:06 am Posts: 640 Location: Music of the Spheres
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As an addendum my comments above,
General principles for securing stuff:
• Securing objects/boxes tightly in place with no wiggle room is always preferable to giving them any leeway to slide, slip or move, no matter how small the space.
• When objects can move or slide, they pick up momentum according to their weight, making their impact into the next solid object greater and cumulative – and ouch! You’ve got two things broken. Or a flying missile. Or a wall of disaster.
• Always consider the weight and potential momentum of all the stuff behind or near the object you're trying to protect to know how much bracing these might need.
• The cheapest and easiest solution is to prevent motion in the first place. Stuff it. Secure it. Shut it down. Bolt it into place. Pack it solidly and tie it down. And put the heavy stuff on the ground.
Cheers and all best wishes, Selene
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Mon Jan 04, 2010 6:55 pm |
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Lynnwood
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Thanks Selene! Can we move all of this info to the Active Mind section, or is it already there? Your ideas/advice and the others as well, need to be where we can find them after today. This is an ongoing project at my house.
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Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:03 pm |
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simple simon
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Joined: Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:54 am Posts: 1502 Location: London
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Just a quick word of thanks to everyone for their replies. Of course its easier for some to prepare than others... my thoughts turn to those who live in big cities, perhaps with loved ones who think that even the concept of this sort of preparations is 'just crazy', do not own their own homes, have little space to store the required amount of foodstuffs and even if they did they would be watching their neighbours to make sure that they are not being watched! Point is, those who are making such preparations need to be extremely careful with where they store the foodsstuffs and who knows. Because when the time comes all those people who thought you were nutso will not have forgotten - they will know exactly where you live - and you will suddenly find that at mealtimes everybody you ever knew, even slightly, and their loved ones, plus friends and their loved ones.... will be coming for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Two years of food for one person will last mere weeks when half the street dines with you.  Dining alone never sounded so attractive! Then there will be the roving gangs who come to empty everyones shelves - they wont know who has food, just assume that you do. Even getting rid of empty tins of food requires extreme caution if you are not to arouse suspicions. btw, anyone ever heard of a volcano kettle? Ideal for boiling water on cold went windy days when you cannot have a real fire. Oh and also a way of making fire (flint? water resistant matches?) One final thing, 'somewhere along the line' I thought I read that TPTB wanted to complete all their preps by the end of last month. hmm, why then? This explains why I asked my original question - are we *that* close to some sort of event? Even if only the staged / faked ET invasion or financial belly-up. Simon
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Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:13 pm |
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Bluebonnet
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_________________ The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little. - FDR
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Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:42 am |
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Bluebonnet
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Joined: Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:59 am Posts: 6532 Location: Friendswood, TX
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One last thing in case anyone is interested in the FEMA feeding stations (for those of you who live in the States). It will be AT LEAST 72 hours before they up and running. No walking up to the feeding station - drive through only. No getting out of your vehicle at the feeding station - pop open the trunk only. You will receive 1 case of MREs (meals - ready - to - eat), 1 case of water and either 2 10 pound or 1 20 pound bag of crushed ice. TSA folks loaded the first day and then subsequent days it was the Texas National Guard and volunteers like Boy and Girl Scouts. But there was ALWAYS a law enforcement/military presence and, yes, they were armed. The only time we waited in line for more than 20 minutes was the first day - everyone was there! There is no limit on the number of times you go through the line. The only limitation will be the amount of gas you have in your vehicle.
_________________ The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little. - FDR
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Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:04 am |
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rutsuyasun
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Joined: Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:21 am Posts: 2775
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I am glad that we are having this conversation. BB's advice is invaluable since she has lived through several serious catastrophes, as others here may have also. I have a few observations/comments to add.
I agree that, yes, we are at the point where we need to be prepared for any scenario. If you haven't started yet, please start right away and do all you can to prepare yourself and your family. Make it a top priority.
I am trying to prepare for the worst and hope for the best. A worst-case scenario could be triggered by any number of events: collapse of the financial system, a severe pandemic with a high CFR (case fatality rate), acts of terrorism/false flag events, natural disasters, etc. What would happen may vary slightly, but the results would be somewhat similar: no available food, water, utilities, medical care, schooling, municipal services (trash collection, road repair...), no first responders, no law enforcement, I'm sure everyone can add other things we will NOT have. If at all possible, a survival community is the way to go. It could consist of neighbors, as BB has done, extended family, or even a group of friends from various locales who are on the same wavelength who have made arrangements to gather at a predetermined (and pre-prepped) site upon an agreed-on trigger point. It's good to have a variety of talent in this community: medical knowledge, farming, mechanical know-how, animal husbandry, defense, teachers, a spiritual leader - just as an idea. It is also very important to know as much as possible about the members of your community if you have not known them long, or not at all. But having a diverse community will inevitably create some tension. You just don't want somebody so unstable they may kill you all to save you from disaster, or who is just out to cause trouble.
If you are in an area where there are FEMA feeding stations, no matter how well-stocked you are for food, make sure you stand in line (or drive) just as much as the others around you. This is a time to blend in with the crowd (herd). You don't want to stand out for any reason. If you have light and others don't, either don't use it or make sure you have blackout shades, covers, whatever for your windows. If you have a generator, and nobody else around you does, sound-proof it, run it as little as possible, etc. You have to be aware of every little thing.
I am not in the same situation as BB with a united neighborhood, so I have separated my preps and stored them in different locations around my house. If somebody forces their way in, they may not get everything. I am considering storing some outside in the little wooded area behind my house, but haven't done it yet. Am I over-the-top on this? Perhaps, but I'd rather have prepared for the worst and possibly survive than sit back and say, that won't happen here.
I am prepping for far more than DH and I would need alone. Our family thinks I'm nuts; they haven't prepped at all and I can't watch them starve. I, too, could not let a hungry child pass by and tell them I couldn't help. Also, I have put some staples in small containers, like coffee cans, so that I can give them to those in real need, or barter them at some point: flour, rice, sugar, corn meal, beans.
You will find lots of good advice and links in this forum. I think one of the best ways to prepare mentally is to discuss the various aspects of prepping together. A question that one person has may open up a host of solutions and may alert others to an area of prepping that they hadn't thought of. I also periodically sit down and go through my day minute by minute. How do I go to the bathroom? No water, can't flush, what will I do? How will I wash myself? brush my teeth. Breakfast: will I cook or eat a cold breakfast? Cook how? store perishable foods how? (do you live in the tropics or the far north? makes a big difference) How do I heat the house? There is no more gas; how do I get to *****? Do I have what I need in my BOB (bug out bag)?
Spiritual preparation, of mind and soul, is perhaps the most important. You can have all the "things" you need, but if you aren't prepared to face the horrors that may come, they won't do a bit of good.
Good luck, and keep on keeping on.
_________________ "The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything." ~ Albert Einstein
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Genesis
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bumping ruts post as it seemed to me to be a more important post than mine on ....bread machines. 
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Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:00 pm |
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Mizar
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Joined: Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:28 pm Posts: 66
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Nice Posts Selene; Having owned boats since 1972, and having lived through a few 6+ Mag earthquakes, I agree totally, nothing like getting smacked by, or slipping on a 12 ounce can o Beans to drive the lesson home, Years ago I always wrote on the top of the can what it was with a sharpie, because if the can gets wet and the label goes in to bilge, you don't know what's for dinner. Mizar
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Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:26 pm |
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Bluebonnet
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_________________ The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little. - FDR
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