Welcome to the continuation of the Golden Thread, Volume 2008 3.9
All are welcome so long as the Golden Rule is observed among the participants.

This is the search for the 'truth' and Disclosure, that all men (and women, and children) that so desire learn the full and examined truth of the 'extraterrestrial reality' as it is known now and will be known in the future.

My appologies for being late moving this forward with the new year! Real life issues and all.. :

"....Watcher in the Woods..."

http://locofoco.smfforfree3.com/index.p ... 14.45.html

Note: the "Dan" on the thread is not DB

"Kyra/M2C" began posting on that forum only one day earlier. She and DB ,at one point, had carried on a e-mail "conversation" in the past. I understand that was relatively rare.( DB communicating with a "GLP" thread poster privately )
So how intently does he follow these "GLP-*Diaspora/Splinter" forums ?

Watch a DIEBOLD Voting Machine Hacked Before Your Very Eyes!

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum ... 486854/pg1

CNN: Kucinich Calls For A Recount

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/20 ... e-recount/

CONCORD, New Hampshire (AP) — Democrat Dennis Kucinich, who won less than 2 percent of the vote in the New Hampshire primary, said Thursday he wants a recount to ensure that all ballots in his party's contest were counted.

The Ohio congressman cited "serious and credible reports, allegations and rumors" about the integrity of Tuesday results.

Deputy Secretary of State David Scanlan said Kucinich is entitled to a statewide recount. But, under New Hampshire law, Kucinich will have to pay for it. Scanlan said he had "every confidence" the results are accurate.

In a letter dated Thursday, Kucinich said he does not expect significant changes in his vote total, but wants assurance that "100 percent of the voters had 100 percent of their votes counted."

Kucinich alluded to online reports alleging disparities around the state between hand-counted ballots, which tended to favor Sen. Barack Obama, and machine-counted ones that tended to favor Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. He also noted the difference between pre-election polls, which indicated Obama would win, and Clinton's triumph by a 39 percent to 37 percent margin.

Candidates who lose by 3 percentage or less are entitled to a recount for a $2,000 fee. Candidates who lose by more must pay for the full cost. Kucinich's campaign said it was sending the $2,000 fee to start the recount.


Scanlon said his office had received several phone calls since Tuesday, mostly from outside the state, questioning the results. New Hampshire's voting machines are not linked in any way, which
Scanlon says reduce the likelihood of tampering with results on a statewide level. Also, the results can be checked against paper ballots.

"I think people from out of state don't completely understand how our process works and they compare it to the system that might exist in Florida or Ohio, where they have had serious problems," he said. "Perhaps the best thing that could happen for us is to have a recount to show the people that … the votes that were cast on election day were accurately reflected in the results. And I have every confidence that will be the case."

This is just my personal theory not based on any hard evidence but got and pieced together from reading ancient mythologies and legends and an examination of past ancient cultures and their origins.

An example being the Native American legends of the “The Star Nations” and the origins of the five races of mankind.

My theory is thus…

2.5 to 3.5 million years ago there was a thriving advanced civilization on Mars (Mars being very Earth like). This civilization was so advanced that they had manufactured the Earth using it as living bio mass lab. This civilization suffered a massive disaster.

A planetary mass entered our solar system it passed by Neptune and Uranus flipping the planets on their side and destroyed the massive planet between Jupiter and Mars due to its gravity. This bombard Mars and destroyed its atmosphere. These original Martians had decades possibly hundreds of years left to them before Mars went completely dead or destroyed by the planetary body entering our solar system. This of course being the fabled Planet X.

In a last ditch effort to save their civilization they transplanted what they could of their world to the earth. They did this by building an Ark. A true Die son Sphere to transplant that civilization at one move. They transplanted what they could to their Lab.. Earth using their Die son Sphere which remains in orbit to this day. Yes our Moon. Whose orbit is decaying to this day (the Moon each year drifts away from the Earth and one day will break away.

This civilization suffered massive disruption even collapse as well as you can imagine. They did establish cities here on the Earth (the ancient Ur, Babylon etc) yet these remaining elements of their civilization collapsed and fell into ruins . They also had to genetically engineer their genetics into that for their Lab Animals to adjust their offspring to the environment of this planet. These genetic engineering gave us the Homio branch of evolutionary tree. All of this took place before the original Martian civilization collapsed and turned to dust on this planet. Thus a Dark Ages fell upon the Earth, the genetically modified proto humans reverted into hunter gather tribal society.

An so some 40,000 years since then here we all are.

There are ancient ancient ruins on Mars. Nasa and the PTB know this.
Our Moon is hollow and artificial. Nasa and the PTB know this.
There is no doubt in my mind that “Planet X” exists in our legends and myths.. You find elements of this in all cultures and societies on this planet. A ancient memory of a real event. An it will return. Although I highly doubt it will be before or any time around 2014 (but I’m willing to listen if any one has hard evidence).

Shady

PS.. As to SOME Ufos/Aliens. These are the decendents of that original Civilization that were off world and out of the Solar System when the Disaster befell them. Possible on some type of deep space colony or branch of that original civilization. They come by time to time to check in on the on going Lab experiments and have a strict "Prime Directive" policy towards the Earth and Civilization now here.

DonD

I'm hoping all corruption relative be exposed.
The only way it seem's how we learn to get it right.
Amazing stuff.

Cross posting Michael Salla's opinion.
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Hello all, Dex's prediction is an interesting one when we consider
that an asteroid is due to pass very close to Mars at the end of this
month. According to the latest estimate, the asteroid will miss by
approximately 4000 kilometers. See:
http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news156.html

While the asteroid will closely miss Mars, according to the Electric
Universe model, there is very likely to be a plasma discharge between
Mars and the Asteroid. I recommend the following website and the
accompanying video, Thunderbolts of the Gods, to learn more about the
plasma discharge model of the universe:
http://www.holoscience.com/

The higher electrical potential of Mars (relative to the asteroid)
will result in the Asteroid being hit by a plasma discharge from Mars
that lights the Asteroid up. Given that Mars and Earth are relatively
close in their respective orbits, the Asteroid will light up
spectacularly and may well appear to be a New Sun. Due to the
Asteroid's proximity to Mars, it will likely have a red hue. That will
make it appear to not only be a new sun, but also a red sun. Would the
asteroid turn out to be the 'Red Kachina' prophesied by the Hopis?
This of course follows the Blue Kachina/Comet Holmes from
November/December 2007.

So what happens on January 30 will be very interesting since that is
what I believe Dex's prediction is alluding to.

Aloha, Michael S.

--- In prepare4contact@yahoogroups.com, "Dex" <dexxxaa> wrote:
>
> I don't know what this means, but, I'll tell it anyway...
>
> "The Light of the Second Sun (Son) will be seen in a few weeks time."
>
> Dex
>

APB: All ex-Majestic and 'New Group' Thugs Report to New Hampshire ASAP - NH Secretary of State To Conduct Recount

The following development threatens to jeopardize 'Looking Glass' predictions, so all 'black-ops' personnel are needed in New Hampshire to help obfuscate the primary results that threaten Hillary's march to power:

NEW HAMPSHIRE TO RECOUNT THE PRIMARY VOTE

http://www.sos.nh.gov/recount%20press%20release.pdf


RELEASED BY: William M. Gardner, Secretary of State of New Hampshire
SUBJECT: Statewide Recount of the Republican and Democratic Presidential Primaries
DATE: January 11, 2008
RELEASE TIME: Immediate
CONTACT: Secretary of State William M. Gardner, phone (603) 271-3242
Secretary of State William M. Gardner announced today that Albert Howard, a candidate for nomination for the office of President of the United States in the Republican Party Primary and Dennis Kucinich, a candidate for nomination for the office of President of the United States in the Democratic Party, have requested a recount of all ballots cast statewide. Mr. Howard and Mr. Kucinich have satisfied the requirements for initiating a statewide recount of the Republican and Democratic Primary.
Secretary of State William M. Gardner will estimate the cost of the recounts, which must be paid by the candidate(s) for the recount to proceed.
Secretary of State Gardner announced that the recounts will start Wednesday, January 16, 2008. The time and location for the start of the recount process will be announced after the estimate has been completed and payment of the estimated cost has been received.
New Hampshire law, RSA 660:7, provides that “any person for whom a vote was cast for any nomination of any party at a state or presidential primary may apply for a recount.” RSA 660:2, IV provides that if the difference between the vote cast for the applying candidate and a candidate declared elected shall be greater than 3 percent of the total votes cast in the towns which comprise the office to be recounted, the candidate shall pay the fees provided in RSA 660:2, III and shall agree in writing with the secretary of state to pay any additional costs of the recount.” RSA 660:6 provides that if the person requesting the recount is declared the winner after the recount or loses by a margin of less than one percent of the total votes cast, the fees for the recount will be refunded by the State.

# # #
For further information please contact Secretary of State William M. Gardner at (603) 271-3242.

My biggest fear now is that LH Silvestros (the operator of NH DIEBOLD machines) will continue to maintain the "chain of custody" of the ballots; otherwise, they can fake enough paper ballots to 'match' their thieving machine totals.

I haven't dropped in there for awhile..today's posting from Dan seems is an interesting and agreeable read.

Dex

Today at 8:25am, Dan wrote:
Today at 12:38am, freshprinze wrote:Obama's church? What happened to everyone?

http://www.tucc.org/about.htm

"We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community."

http://www.tucc.org/talking_points.htm

"One of the biggest gaps in knowledge that causes the kind of ignorance that you hear spouted by this man [Erik Rush] and those like him, has to do with the fact that these persons are completely ignorant when it comes to the Black religious tradition. The vision statement of Trinity United Church of Christ is based upon the systematized liberation theology that started in 1969 with the publication of Dr. James Cone’s book, Black Power and Black Theology."

I'm going to ask you a hard question, Dr. Burisch. I know about your child and the possible sensitivities is could raise. I am not asking you who is Esau but I do want to know what your take is on Obama in the light of recent "hand over heart" questions, his link to a Church practicing Black Theology, and Dr. Cone's relationship to the Nation of Islam? I saw your post, and it is unbiased except you posted it? What are you trying to say?




Shabbat Shalom, Freshprinze!

"What happened to everyone?"

We're still here! All of us! New Hampshire just proved that!

Me? I'm presently watching a CFR Briefing about the Iranian Nuclear Issue, by Gary Samore, while changing a portion of our upcoming Lotus presentation. But, that's beside the matter...I'll take a few minutes...

Esau has been ruled out of the question? You mean I can't chat about Isaac, Rebekah, and Jacob? One thing is for sure....he was a "doer"! (Look into the Hebrew origin of the name.)

Sensitive? No! I am no stranger to openly discussing the issue of "African American" rights and liberation theology! What, specifically, do you want to talk about?

What I ask, is what is your point? What are you trying to say? You focused on only a part of the news post. For me, I am suspicious of ANY and ALL attack ads being launched against ANY candidate. ESPECIALLY one who just lost a primary he expected to win! (Given I am personally aware that Senator Clinton's campaign was expecting to lose, and the tone of the "reasonably level" as well as the "smear" news at the time, I suppose Obama expected to win?)

All that said...these "items" have been raised on numerous internet news sites, blogs, and television shows. Other questions, perhaps arising due to the fact that many feel they don't "know" enough about Mr. Obama, have been raised.

For instance, his website says:

http://www.barackobama.com/about/

Barack Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4th, 1961. His father, Barack Obama Sr., was born and raised in a small village in Kenya, where he grew up herding goats with his own father, who was a domestic servant to the British.

Barack's mother, Ann Dunham, grew up in small-town Kansas. Her father worked on oil rigs during the Depression, and then signed up for World War II after Pearl Harbor, where he marched across Europe in Patton's army. Her mother went to work on a bomber assembly line, and after the war, they studied on the G.I. Bill, bought a house through the Federal Housing Program, and moved west to Hawaii.

It was there, at the University of Hawaii, where Barack's parents met. His mother was a student there, and his father had won a scholarship that allowed him to leave Kenya and pursue his dreams in America.

Learn more about Barack's life, family, and accomplishments.; Barack; Barack Obama; Barack TV; Obama; Speeches; This appears on the "Meet Barack Page" http://link.brightcove.com/services/lin ... =353512430

Barack's father eventually returned to Kenya, and Barack grew up with his mother in Hawaii, and for a few years in Indonesia. Later, he moved to New York, where he graduated from Columbia University in 1983.

Remembering the values of empathy and service that his mother taught him, Barack put law school and corporate life on hold after college and moved to Chicago in 1985, where he became a community organizer with a church-based group seeking to improve living conditions in poor neighborhoods plagued with crime and high unemployment.

The group had some success, but Barack had come to realize that in order to truly improve the lives of people in that community and other communities, it would take not just a change at the local level, but a change in our laws and in our politics.

He went on to earn his law degree from Harvard in 1991, where he became the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review. Soon after, he returned to Chicago to practice as a civil rights lawyer and teach constitutional law. Finally, his advocacy work led him to run for the Illinois State Senate, where he served for eight years. In 2004, he became the third African American since Reconstruction to be elected to the U.S. Senate.

It has been the rich and varied experiences of Barack Obama's life - growing up in different places with people who had differing ideas - that have animated his political journey. Amid the partisanship and bickering of today's public debate, he still believes in the ability to unite people around a politics of purpose - a politics that puts solving the challenges of everyday Americans ahead of partisan calculation and political gain.

In the Illinois State Senate, this meant working with both Democrats and Republicans to help working families get ahead by creating programs like the state Earned Income Tax Credit, which in three years provided over $100 million in tax cuts to families across the state. He also pushed through an expansion of early childhood education, and after a number of inmates on death row were found innocent, Senator Obama worked with law enforcement officials to require the videotaping of interrogations and confessions in all capital cases.

In the U.S. Senate, he has focused on tackling the challenges of a globalized, 21st century world with fresh thinking and a politics that no longer settles for the lowest common denominator. His first law was passed with Republican Tom Coburn, a measure to rebuild trust in government by allowing every American to go online and see how and where every dime of their tax dollars is spent. He has also been the lead voice in championing ethics reform that would root out Jack Abramoff-style corruption in Congress.

As a member of the Veterans' Affairs Committee, Senator Obama has fought to help Illinois veterans get the disability pay they were promised, while working to prepare the VA for the return of the thousands of veterans who will need care after Iraq and Afghanistan. Recognizing the terrorist threat posed by weapons of mass destruction, he traveled to Russia with Republican Dick Lugar to begin a new generation of non-proliferation efforts designed to find and secure deadly weapons around the world. And knowing the threat we face to our economy and our security from America's addiction to oil, he's working to bring auto companies, unions, farmers, businesses and politicians of both parties together to promote the greater use of alternative fuels and higher fuel standards in our cars.

Whether it's the poverty exposed by Katrina, the genocide in Darfur, or the role of faith in our politics, Barack Obama continues to speak out on the issues that will define America in the 21st century. But above all his accomplishments and experiences, he is most proud and grateful for his family. His wife, Michelle, and his two daughters, Malia, 9, and Sasha, 6, live on Chicago's South Side where they attend Trinity United Church of Christ.

"Yes," I watched the 5min:46s video on that site.

For those undecided (and even if you are decided)- go to the Barack webpage ( http://www.barackobama.com/about/ ) and watch the video!

In that video he says, "We are one people, all pledging allegiance to the Stars and Stripes, all of us defending the United States of America." He further indicates a separation between his faith life in his church and his public life. If he is elected, he will be elected for a PUBLIC LIFE, given the core values of this Nation for separation of Church and State. (What happened that day, when he apparently didn't lift his right hand to his heart during the Anthem, I do not know? And do you know what? I'm not going to ask him! To my knowledge, we have no good evidence of anti-American activities by him. To continuously harp on the one act, smells of McCarthyism! Mongraal made his statement, and notice that he is now leaving it be. There it sets, his opinion. His right.)

Like it or not, like him (Barack) or not, we are speaking about the issue of who will be the next President of the United States, not whether Barack will decide to run for what would be only his second term as a United States Senator! "Yes," I know the qualifications, and "no" I do not support them being changed. Together with this, we are at war against a ruthless enemy who wants to kill us, our way of life, and civilized society across the Earth. Our choices must be careful ones.

Also, this is no longer 1801! We have not shunned "foreign entanglements" as warned against by such people as Thomas Jefferson. Get over it! Jefferson may be considered by most Americans as one of our nearly-hallowed Founders, but he doesn't tell us what to do, today. (While I maintain a great and abiding respect for Jefferson's position as a Founder, and more than some respect for his sociopolitical narratives, especially including the Declaration - I am not blinded about the abhorrent and deeply immoral issue of Slavery; nor the foolishness toward, criminality thrust upon, and brazen disrespect issued toward, the sacred Native American Peoples!)

The world economy and security issues are intertwined. Did you see the statement of "rhetorical confusion" by Ron Paul in the latest Republican debate about from whom we are borrowing to pay who? HE WAS RIGHT! ...IN PRINCIPLE! But...where are we...in the REALITY of Global Politics? High handed (and "headed") Nationalism becomes an apparent joke in the face of the hypocritical political webs which are being weaved! I do feel we are in an early preparatory incarnation of the realization that the distant future of humanity is not Nationalistic - but that we are rightly emissaries of ONE EARTH. (Some see it, some feel it, stronger than others: perhaps a deep wish, perhaps a visionary endorsement of futures yet to be realized. But...as Dr. Sagan used to say.."...we have much promise.")

Do I like him? (Barack) I don't know him. I don't know enough about him to say "I think I do." Do I like many of the things I have heard from him? Yes. Do I feel he is the best person to be President next, "OBVIOUSLY, NO!"

I have been asked in email (no it's not just your question, Freshprinze... ... ...) whether I think it would be a danger if a black man becomes President?


NO!


(While I felt immediate offense by even being asked, I will carry no lasting umbrage against the ignorance of the person asking.)

So...in response I just ask, "WHAT'S WRONG WITH AN AMERICAN, QUALIFIED BY THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION, THE SUPREME LAW OF OUR LAND, AND WHOSE PEOPLE HAVE PAID SOME OF THE DEEPEST PRICES TO BE FREE, BEING PRESIDENT?"

(I will also say that, due to my knowing the identity and history of one of the writers, I rather declare their apparent racist intention, acting as an underpinning to such a question, constitutes the only potential for danger. Get over your skin color - grow up!)

I would respond almost the same, about a woman being President:

"WHAT'S WRONG WITH AN AMERICAN, QUALIFIED BY THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION, THE SUPREME LAW OF OUR LAND, AND WHO IS A MEMBER OF A GENDER THAT HAS PAID SOME INCREDIBLE PRICES FOR FREEDOM AND PERSONAL RIGHTS, BEING PRESIDENT?"

The bottom line is:

WE MUST PICK THE PERSON WE FEEL IS BEST FOR THE JOB!

Does this mean that we should discount what makes the person great: their history of personal struggle against racial or gender prejudice, and other things? Absolutely not! There is no doubt that struggle increases personal strength, and when such strength is directed positively can change the world for the better! (But...let's be fair handed to candidates other than Hillary or Barack! ...and in truth...for instance...the horrors John McCain suffered in North Vietnam as a POW is something for which we should all be very respectful. {And before anyone raises the specter, such a respect is not contingent on historical or deeper geopolitical questions.})

I have also been asked whether Bill Clinton was showing "racism," concerning certain comments he has recently made? I never speak for another person's heart - but reserve my comments for their actions - including their words, and only try to carefully reflect on their history to elucidate my view of "intentions." Given what I know of his (William Jefferson Clinton's) history, I seriously doubt he intended anything of a racist nature. If anyone feels different, and can elucidate why, please feel free to correct my ignorance. (You are welcomed to privately email comments as well, and either have them published {with or without your name - your choice too} on the Eagles Forum, or leave it between us. I am never too "anything," not to be corrected.

A media manager for Obama is said to be advising the media that former President Bill Clinton should be told to "butt out" with regard to the campaigning he is doing for Hillary. It doesn't work that way! Any citizen can campaign for any candidate. A President doesn't cease being a citizen after the term(s) of office. Bill has decided to campaign for the Senator from New York...who "just happens" to be his wife and the former First Lady! That's his right! What the media decides to cover is their decision.

To the issue of the "swearing in" should Barack be elected. I received a letter stating he swore into his Senate seat "with a Koran"(Quran, Qur'an, "Allah be praised!")!

This statement about Obama is INCORRECT! The person who was "ceremonially" sworn in with the Holy Qur'an was Rep. Keith Ellison, on Thursday, January 4, 2007!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16473968/

Rep. Ellison used a Holy Qur'an once owned by THOMAS JEFFERSON!

I do not comment on this issue, lightly. I hear people tell me and write to me "If he's elected, he better use a Bible!"

Personally, Barack, Hillary (and anyone else for that matter) better damned well say these words:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." - Article 2, Section 1, The Constitution of the United States of America

Now...let me ask you (all - but certainly the Americans as it's our national drama...) something...

Where in the Supreme Law of our land, the document the jingoists and rampaging Nationalists so often cite as their personal "heart-writ", does it say the person's left hand must be placed on a Judeo-Christian Bible?

Don't give me the "it's tradition" crapola - as THE CONSTITUTION IS OUR LIVING TRADITION! Don't give me the "theological" crapola unless you are willing to argue the real beliefs of the Founders and win - hint- you won't. (I've had the extreme honor of standing in one of their most private archives, and have read some of their privately shared thoughts, so know exactly where to go, in reference, to defend my position if needed.)

If you shove a Judeo-Christian Bible, a series of Holy documents for which I have great respect, and the Torah (commonly called the "Old Testament" by many Christians, and before the complexity of the Hebrew construction of which I remain in reverential awe), under the hand of anyone - as a precedent or qualification to become President -

...then how does it feel to argue for an established Church?

May I remind you?

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." -Amendment 1, The Constitution of the United States of America

Are you going to argue that it isn't the Congress? Right. But...the separation of Church and State is now supported by the Supreme Court and a huge litany of Federal and other court decisions!

(That separation, in my view, has been rightly decided where people have been defended against being oppressed by any Religion, and wrongly where the judicial system has been used to oppress the citizenry from exercising their Freedom of Speech, where such practice involves their expression of Religion! Yes, we know about the concerted effort to argue for the removal of "God" from the public square - an effort doomed to failure as God is extant in the very people doing the arguing! )

Given one may loudly argue "tradition," as did the Loyalists just prior to those difficult events of Lexington and Concord and just after (no offense whatsoever intended to my wonderful friends from (truly) Great Britain ), allow me to ask you a question about tradition?

What tradition do you follow? An important question! Why do I ask it? If your "personal" tradition is...say...(just randomly picking a church in the U.S. )..."Episcopal" (the beautiful Church of my late step-grandfather, David)...

...you would want to swear in with an appropriate Bible with the "Old and New Covenants," yes? Right!

Could you be trusted, being an "Episcopal" (only as an example, and as my family has certain Liturgical ties), as a President, even if you were sworn in on a...say...Roman Catholic (I was baptized as such) version of the Holy Bible?

Of course! Why? You may argue...the same God? Great!

Fine! Now...stepping away from the examples...understand I am now done using the examples before I ask this question...and direct it to a specific writer who wanted their questions addressed this way...reacting to their "slant"...fine...

WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TO CLAIM THAT THE GOD OF THE BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE OF ISLAM IS NOT THE GOD OF THE SO CALLED "OLD TESTAMENT".....JUST UNDERSTOOD DIFFERENTLY, THROUGH THE HUMAN LENSES AND PRISMS OF CULTURE??????? This argument extends to all cultures and traditions, and yes...I understand about the beliefs of certain "literalists" and the dogmatically inclined.

But...you would still want to pick for yourself? Of course you would! So, maybe, would someone from the Great Tradition of Islam!

When the person places their hand on the text to which they believe -THEY KNOW- binds them to Almighty God - while they do their PUBLIC ACT of swearing to the words in the United States Constitution, I fail to see how the argument for only a Judeo-Christian Bible has merit?

You don't like that? Like something (or someone ) close to George (Washington, not the idiot presently in office) may have said - 'take your pound of bread and meat, and your gill of beans and rum and stand up like an American!' Do it for everyone's rights, not just your own!

As I see it, it's a hard truth, but I also know about the bases for most wars, and will not ignore that to satisfy anyone from any one tradition wishing to make themselves feel "exclusive." Truth be told, as I understand it, the only exclusive club to which any of us belong is called "humanity" and before even that..."life."

In other words I think we all have it right - and all have it wrong - all at the same time!

I doubt we will find true peace with justice for all people, until that notion of a "true humanity" is both understood and practiced. When it is, there will be no more need for soldiers to guard "walls." There is no need now...but in my humble view we just haven't been able to convince our "so high and mighty" selves of that truth, yet.

Our life time? Well...that's kind of hard to see from this desk...

...as people are still busying themselves being very concerned about what they feel is such an overarching need to "strike" Barack Obama's skin color because they refuse to see what "human" truly means, and (directed to men) be reproving of Hillary Clinton's gender because the very thought of one (without externally evident gonads) being in charge, makes you realize that what you lack runs deeper than your quiet embarrassment over personal fantasy measurements! ( Guys, we'll all laugh together one day! Oh...not you, right? --> )

Yes...it's difficult from this desk...but yet I see hope...why?

Some reasons...

1. I feel the beauty in humanity. I see it in my fellow human's eyes, and feel it from them every day! Humanity is both male and female - together! What another beautiful dualism in this Cosmos!

2. The tide is rising in the world - the "human rights" tide, the understanding that we are ONE PEOPLE...and while it is "just the tide" right now...eventually...no tin-dictatorial power will be able to stop the human wave of desire to be FREE!

3. The Peace and Love that I felt that day...that extraordinary day for me in 1981...when great pain was taken away from this undeserving, to be healed, servant...

It was not dictatorial, nor was it reproving, nor was it just male, nor was it just female, it...

It just loved me for me. There's no emoticon to match (break)

Okay...back...I guess...ummm...anyway...that day.

and

4. The man...that MAN...the one I saw that day that I haven't really talked about (for maybe good reason) while lying on my back in the Clean Sphere while that little beautiful person (Chi'el'ah) was practicing his version of "streaming memory media"! He was darker skinned. But his blood was red, just like all of us! Maybe it was all of us.

Oh, boy...end of entry. I guess that is what I am saying. I'll be back in a few days.

Love,

Dan

Interesting, Dex. Sounds like he's covering his bases, as usual. Having been shown a few of his usual sanctimonious and holier-than-thou declarations, characterizing some of us here as "desperate" and all manner of other negative connotatins, it makes me chuckle at his Napoleonic trumpeting. I wonder what his take is on the little matter of alleged collusion between the Bushes and the Clintons, which I found at the following website earlier today:

http://www.new-enlightenment.com/2008_e ... primer.htm

But before I share that, I found these little gems at another website,

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/fo ... opic=59872

"The continuous consolidation of money and power into higher, tighter and righter hands."
-- George H.W. Bush in 1992, answering a question of what Iran-Contra was all about

“If the American people ever knew the whole story about Iran Contra we Bushes would be chased down in the streets and lynched.”
-- George Bush Sr., interview with Sarah McClendon

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A Political Primer on the Bush - Clinton Collusion

A Primer for Inquisitive Minds

The Jones family above is watching a horror fantasy. They are unaware that the election events on their television screen are total fantasy but that the horror is real.
The mother and father were non-educated at the same non-school that Timmy and Suzie are now being non-educated. None of the four knows what is going on in the world and they have no interest in knowing.

Horror

A presentation depicting murder and mayhem as somewhat frightening though slightly amusing.

Fantasy

Fantasy consists in a mindless acceptance of unrealities as real.

The "election" portrayed on the Jones's television screen is a complete fantasy. Both the Republican and Democratic presidential candidates have been chosen by a criminal gang and the outcome of the election has already been decided by that same pack of thugs.

Most Americans are like the Jones family: having allowed themselves to be brainwashed into mindlessly believing that the "election" is a fair contest of the people's will. Because most Americans are happy believing in fantasies like "fair elections" and "war on terrorism," America has become a police state.

Cabal

A group that seized political and economic power through criminal actions such as assassinations and election-fixing.

Dictatorship

A form of criminal mis-rule in which the leaders have destroyed Constitutional liberties.

War-Profiteering

Creating bogus wars to make money through the manufacture, sale, and destruction of war materiel: guns, planes, ships, etc.

Because Wendell Jones, the father, and Betty Jones, the mother are ignorant--but do not know that they are ignorant--they are not aware and therefore do not teach Timmy and Suzie the truth about their nation, which is that America has become:

Cabal-controlled

A dictatorship: repressive police state

A war-profiteering rogue state

The American One-Party Dictatorship

Republican
Presidential Candidate ("Tweedledum")

Democratic
Presidential Candidate ("Tweedledee")

Both selected by the Demonic Cabal

"Our democracy is but a name. We vote? What does that mean? It means that we choose between two bodies of real, though not avowed, autocrats. We choose between Tweedledum and Tweedledee."

- Helen Keller, 1911

The Horror Continues

In this primer, we're exploring the factors which support the hypothesis that the cabal has decided to make Hillary Clinton president.
The criminal junta that controls America cunningly conceals its plans and tactics, so we must construct the best educated guess possible.

Most Reasonable Hypothesis

That hypothesis based on the most supporting data available, which best explains what is occurring and predicts what will happen in the future.

Hillary Clinton's assuming of the American presidency is the worst of all possible scenarios, because it will assure total continuation of the criminal, oppressive, militaristic, war-profiteering policies of the Bush II junta.

The puppet Bush II gang has unleashed a lawless looting of America and the world by the cabal that controls Dubya and will control Hillary after the 2008 "election" pretence.

The Jones family--and the rest of America and the world--were almost startled awake on December 17, 2007 when former President Bill Clinton said that the first thing his wife Hillary will do when she reaches the White House is dispatch him and his predecessor, President George H.W. Bush, on an around-the-world mission to repair the damage done to America's reputation by the current president—-Bush's son, George W. Bush.

"Well, the first thing she intends to do, because you can do this without passing a bill, the first thing she intends to do is to send me and former President Bush and a number of other people around the world to tell them that America is open for business and cooperation again," Clinton said in response to a question from a supporter about what his wife's "number one priority" would be as president.

To the Joneses of the world this chummy relationship between the Clintons and the Bushes came as a complete surprise. Suddenly it was clear for all with eyes to see that Bush Senior was supporting Hillary Clinton for President. Bush I's subsequent perfunctory "denial" was so lame and feeble as to constitute an affirmation of Bill Clinton's assertion.

The discerning few in the world have been tipped off to the depraved connection between the Bushes and the Clintons by a number of prior events.

Republican presidential candidates who began campaigning in 2007 received half as much campaign money as the Democratic candidates--a complete reversal of historic trends. It appears the cabal wants the Democratic nominee to win in 2008.

The Bush-Clinton Alliance

"The fact that the Bushes and the Clintons are on the same team - and have been since their alleged Iran-Contra partnership in an airport operation in Mena, Arkansas involving the transshipment of cocaine destined for the streets of America - is not something that most Americans have yet incorporated into our political equation."

- Catherine Austin Fitts, (footnote 1)
in "Will the Real Economic Hit Men Please Stand Up?"

Perceptive analysts of historical trends discern other more esoteric clues as to why the cabal, including Bush I, would be supporting Hillary Clinton for president. This part of the story began in a small Arkansas town named Mena in the 1980s. (footnote 2)

With full knowledge and complicity on the part of then Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton, a small dirt airstrip at Mena, Arkansas became a major North American focus for the Contra drug and gun-running network, handling a night-flight every five minutes, without lights, at the height of the activities. The entire illegal gun running operation to Nicaragua was for the purpose of arming and resupplying the Contra forces, staged out of the Mena airport.

Contra planes flew north to the U.S., loaded with cocaine for sale in the United States, then returned laden with weapons, all under the protective umbrella of the United States Government through the CIA. Cocaine profits were the real source of funding for the Contra's custom made (and numberless) M-16s. The CIA laundered the cocaine proceeds through various Arkansas financial institutions including Morgan Guarantee, Madison S&L, Worthen Bank, and most importantly, the Arkansas Development Finance Authority.

After the Iran-Contra scandal erupted, individuals began to come forward with stories that the same planes that ferried guns down to Nicaragua were bringing back cocaine. These individuals included military personnel such as Eugene Wheaton, and pilots such as Richard Brenneke, and former Air Force intelligence officer Terry Reed, who claimed they were part of the guns and drugs operation itself. Some, like Chip Tatum, had documents proving their claims.

As usual, the press seemed to have a blind spot where Mena was concerned. Writer Roger Morris (author of Partners In Power) and Sally Denton wrote a well-researched article entitled "The Crimes Of Mena." This story, based on Barry Seal's surviving records, had been fact checked and cleared for publication by the legal staff of the Washington Post, when it was suddenly spiked without explanation by Managing Editor Bob Kaiser, a fellow Skull & Bones alumni with ex CIA chief George Bush. The article was later published in Penthouse magazine in July, 1995.

This unusual spiking of a news story caught the attention of writer Ambrose Evans-Pritchard who wrote an article about it--"Arkansas Drug Exposé Misses The Post"--for the London Sunday Telegraph that appeared January 29, 1995.

The Mena operation had been covered in a Wall Street Journal editorial by Micah Morrison on October 18, 1994 titled "The Mena Coverup." Arkansas State Trooper L. D. Brown had been Clinton's bodyguard as well as his man on some of the round-trip Nicaragua-to-Mena airport flights piloted by Barry Seal. When he revealed what he knew about Mena in an American Spectator article in the summer of 1995 it met with mixed reaction, though Brown's information bore out what the other reports claimed. Brown later wrote an expose of the Mena operation titled Crossfire which corroborated much of what we're exploring in this primer.

In his book, Compromised: Clinton, Bush, and the CIA, Terry Reed describes a scene he witnessed in which Governor Bill Clinton suddenly appeared at the Mena airstrip "on the verge of losing his well-rehearsed, statesman-like demeanor." Clinton was complaining to a CIA operative that "Mena had helped the CIA and its bosses in Washington, but it had not solved any of the governor's local political problems. And these same problems were threatening to unveil the Mena operations."

According to Reed's report, the CIA operative told Clinton to shut up, that if he wanted the CIA to help him become President he would just keep his mouth shut and cooperate with the Mena operation in every way possible. Clinton, Reed claims, accepted the reprimand and left the airport with his tail between his legs.

We need to recall that at this time George H.W. Bush was the de facto President of the United States, Ronnie Reagan having been sidelined by an assassination attempt on his life. Bush I was still in charge of all CIA operations--including Mena--having earlier been head of the agency.

It appears, then, that the cabal had chosen Clinton as its Democratic presidential candidate in case Bush I didn't win re-election in 1993. After his narrow victory, Clinton proceeded to shut down the still on-going investigations into the corruption and crimes of Bush I. Iran-Contra, BCCI, and especially Bush's massive, secret and often illegal efforts to arm Saddam Hussein and supply him with material for chemical weapons-–all of these probes were cut off, starved or shunted aside by the Clinton Administration.

Clinton also thwarted probes into the "October Surprise"-–the 1980 negotiations between the Reagan campaign camp, led by Bush, with the Iranians who were holding American hostages. Direct testimony from several credible sources emerged in the early 1990s about the Bush-Iran negotiations, in which the Reagan-Bush team secretly agreed to free up frozen Iranian assets and supply the extremist regime with military hardware in exchange for Tehran holding onto the hostages until after Jimmy Carter was defeated. Bush's negotiations with the Iranians to fix the American election constituted high treason, a capital offense. Because Clinton helped quash these investigations, it's little wonder that Bush I feels gratitude to Slick Willy. (footnote 3)


"Hillary Clinton’s campaign is signaling that a second Clinton presidency will follow the look-to-the-future, don’t-worry-about-accountability approach toward Republican wrongdoing that marked Bill Clinton’s years in office."

- Robert Parry, consortiumnews.com

The cabal will likely put on a somewhat believable presidential race for the 2008 election, conning Americans into believing that a Barack Obama or a John McCain would bring genuine change to our nation. But in the end it will likely make sure that Hillary wins both the Democratic nomination and the election.

If Americans are to regain control of their nation, we must first fully inform ourselves about the Bush-Clinton co-conspiracy to retain cabal control over the U.S. We'll have to get rid of the two-parties-pretending-to-be-different scam and create a truly independent third party. Funding for election campaigning must come exclusively from public money, outlawing private corporations buying their own officials. We must look to our own philosophical foundations as we work to overcome this police state dictatorship that has our country in its grip.

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Which brings me up to the comments made this evening on NL's weekly Saturday GLP ZT chat:

Did Hillary make some kind of deal with Rove and the Bushes? Did she know the machines would be hacked to give her a false victory? What about Obama; is he aware of the vote fraud? Any chance the recount will tell the true story, or have they carefully covered their trail?

And finally, how do these people justify this kind of activity? Don't they realize they are bound for a prison planet in committing these crimes? Especially the Bushes and Cheney; are they resigned to going to a prison planet following their deaths?

SOZT
The Clintons and the Bush family chat with each other all the time. Matters are discussed in code talk, but each understands what the other is saying. The Clintons were offered the Republican machinery in New Hampshire, and gave the nod. The Republicans also WANT Hillary to be the candidate as they feel they could beat her due to her negatives, and polls bear that out. The Bush family feels that should she win, they also have won, so vote fraud in New Hampshire had the support of many who have used this avenue in the past. Since there are buffers between those who switch the votes and those who call the shots, they do not fear prosecution. The low level technicians who do the actual vote swaps get paid in a manner that leaves no fingerprints, by shadowy figures.
EOZT

Will the recent voter fraud in New Hampshire mean that Hillary is going to have her dirty laundry exposed to the public to counter this deceitful act?

SOZT
Of course those responsible for the integrity of the election process will do everything possible to cover up what has happened in New Hampshire. It is not Hillary that is worried here! They are seeking explanations for the difference in the counts to the polls before hand and the exit polls which are historically accurate. New Hampshire has a law that allows out of state visitors to vote if they claim on the registration form that they have an intention to move to the state. No follow-up is done to ensure that this is the case. Since it was observed before the election that Hillary’s rallies were attended mainly by those from Massachusetts and New York state, the cars in the parking lots with those license plates, this is one possible excuse for the discrepancy. They will claim that her sudden rush were these voters. Remember who will be observing the counts, and compiling the totals. It will be the election officials in the state whose reputation would be smeared. Unless there are outside observers, no change in the current count will occur!
EOZT