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Vegas Microbiologist Implicated in Gulf War Syndrome -- Friendly Fire WMD

Dr. Dan Burisch seeks John Kerry’s help for gaining immunity to testify in Congressional Hearing about designer viruses and other black op projects. Scientist behind providing backfiring immunity to the Gulf War vets now wants immunity to testify about his knowledge of this syndrome.

By Sterling D. Allan
Greater Things News Service
May 6, 2004

LAS VEGAS, NV

Dr. Dan Burisch webcam shot May 4,
2004 (am) private chat with two people
from Godlikeproductions forum.

Dr. Dan Burisch, who is in a quasi lock-down situation, said he would like to have presidential hopeful, John Kerry, assist him in obtaining a Congressional hearing, with immunity, where he could give testimony to various black op projects in which he has been involved.

Such testimony would include his knowledge of and involvement in creating designer viruses for biowarfare that could get out of hand, similar to the AIDS virus, which also originated in a laboratory. Evidence for his involvement in this activity can allegedly be found in a signature sequence that he hinted at having placed in the genetic code of the weapons-grade organisms on which he hinted that he had worked, according to an interview on April 5, 2004 by Harry Dschaak and Sterling Allan.

“The world should know of the dangers we face, and why,” Burisch said in an interview held via a web chat with two individuals on the morning of May 4, which is now published on the web.

Then, on the evening of May 4, in another web chat, this one open to anyone who wanted to join in, he indirectly disclosed that he was involved in the creation of what has come to be known as the Gulf War Syndrome. Both conferences included the presence of a web cam and multiple witnesses who were party to the chat.

Gulf-war syndrome refers to an odd assortment of symptoms—joint pain, fatigue, headache, memory and sleep problems—reported by thousands of Gulf-war veterans in several countries. Although many cases have been explained by post-traumatic stress disorder, roughly a fifth remain undiagnosed.

Reservists or National Guard persons were suddenly unable to work and often abandoned by the Veterans Administration because of the separation between time of service and time of illness. Finally, after years of reports and a lot of angry protests by the victims, the VA opened a registry in 1993 for Gulf War veterans with these symptoms, and by September 1993 80,000 had made claims. Now that figure is over 100,000. This illness affects 10-15% of the U.S. troops involved in the Gulf. (Joe Courter.)

"Tell the world about what you know," was the admonition Burisch gave in the course of the interview."

In that interview, expressing his preference for which of the presidential candidates he would like to work through, he said, “I would have a meeting with Kerry if I could.” John Kerry’s campaign office has been apprised of this request and said they would return a comment if they had one. Kerry's Senator position also gives him an avenue to assist Burisch if he should so choose. No comment has been posited as of the time of this writing.

Though Burisch has been seeking a Congressional hearing for more than half a year, ever since a press release that was issued on April 8 publicly announcing that he seeks such a hearing, he has been backpedaling to the point that he now says it “is really doubtful at this time” that he would come forward.

Burisch stated that he will not testify “without some kind of immunity release,” preferably coming from the President of the United States .

“If someone drags my dying rear end into some kind of court room, and no immunity release is granted, the 5th Amendment WILL be recited to an eager court. If I am thrown into jail as a result, that would be better than talking without immunity; I can assure you -- LOTS BETTER!”

40-year-old Burisch has an inoperable heart condition for which he is taking medications that sometimes cause him to go into convulsions. He has a 4-inch x ¼-inch scar going up the back of his head from a craniotomy he received in the early 70’s, and claims to have had bones broken by those who have him under their control.

Later in the interview he said, "Every good natured human being (and I think I may somewhat qualify) does in fact want to tell the truth."

Finding Burisch to present a subpoena to testify could get difficult. Burisch said the “curtain around me falls hard and tough” on the first of this coming June.

Burisch does not want to be subpoenaed until after he completes the Lotus Project on which he is presently commissioned by a body that refers to themselves as “the Majestic Twelve.” The Lotus Project pertains to the development of what is called the Ganesh Particle, which is purported to have healing and regenerative powers, but which has proven disastrous in a trial run.

Burisch said “The model WILL be finished. After the model, I will be retiring,” which is presently scheduled for “March 16, 2005,” following the presentation of the model which inside sources close to Burisch said was scheduled to take place in Washington D.C. on March 15, 2005.

Burisch seems to believe some form of hearing is already in the works. “If I am dragged anywhere, and a grant of complete, full, blanket immunity is attached, that’s because we probably already had it yesterday!”

Referring to the head of the Majestic Twelve, who refers to himself as “J,” Burisch continued, saying, “J will have instructed me to open up the BIG can o worms.” (In 1994, the head of the Majestic Twelve was retired Vice Admiral John Michael McConnel, U.S.N., N.S.A., MJ-Cosmic, according to a leaked document called “Q-94.” That the current head of the Majestic Twelve refers to himself as “J”, provides indirect evidence that this is the person who is still in charge of their operations.)







Shady,

I sure am glad that you posted this indeed. How much more plain could it be that Dan B. was involved in the Gulf War Syndrome biological warfare chemicals! God forbid!!!!!!!!!!! How can peoples live with themselves knowing they helped to make such horrible things like this?????

But this article even admits to these biologicals having a "signature", just as I posted earlier that Dr. Garth Nicholason said he found in all 11 pathogens that he isolated from blood samples of his daughter who became infected with them during the first Gulf War and that the Aids virus also had this same type of "signature". Meaning they were ALL MANUFACTURED and by being manufactured they have been unleased out on the unsuspecting populaces to spread and kill.

So I take this as him admitting his hands (Dan B.) are definitely not clean and it makes me wonder how any real human being can live with themselves knowing that they have helped make sick men, women, their children and possible even caused them to die, how can one face or look at themselves in the mirror each morning??? This is just beyond my comprehension and it takes a 'monster' or 'reptilian' mind to be able to do such horrible things to ones fellow human beings. And apparently this MJ12 bunch had their hands in it all also so they are just as dam guilty as I see it and this is what you call murder isn't it????


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Shady, what's playing on Sherlock's Ipod Touch? Timberland featuring Franz Schubert? :wink:


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mjc wrote:
Dan_B is righteously "moral" and he's doing all these good deeds after working for an organisation that was frankly amoral -- so you can understand in a sense why he's compensating here. I don't think he's morally ambivalent, he is a man of conscience -- but this may have been undermined by coercion, physical violence and other events he was exposed to over the years while he was a card-carrying member of Majestic, that drew him reluctantly in the opposite direction that he wanted to go. I certainly wouldn't have wanted to have been in his position then, but you do what you have to and occasionally make unethical choices to survive -- and make it through the day. Dan may have come out of the other end a tad warped, hence the games, the lies and the character assassinations, but he's a survivor, unlike many of his colleagues in the Project Aquarius Team. Ultimately, if any of us had been in Dan_B's situation while he was in Majestic, then none of us would have come out of it smelling like roses.


Well-said, mjc. I distinctly remember the last time I was allowed to see Dan, after the 'Big Psy-Op'; I met him outside of Marci's apartment after dusk fell (he was sitting inside when I arrived, with Marci, looking for all the world like a normal middle-class couple having a cocktail after dinner) and we walked around the complex, talking. He already seemed to have a shoulder-shrugging attitude as if to say "yeah, I know, but what can we do about it..." when, at one point behind the main complex, he ducked inside an entranceway and, noticeably exhibiting fear, whispered words to the effect "you don't know what John {Dadmiral} can do, what he has done!". Even though most of that conversation was apparently monitored by a goon or two who listened in to our conversation, that particular 10 seconds or so may have been missed. It was a telling moment. It indicated that no matter what Dan felt or believed, he feared for his life were he to truly "disobey" {despite the name he and Marci like to flaunt}.


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I'm puzzled as to why they post such 'secret' stuff on a public access forum? And then admonish each other with cryptic coded messages on the same forum, dropping little tantalising hints about their secret doings/trips? What do their average public members make of it all, I wonder? Surely stuff they should be posting by private mails? Confused

The Ferret, to add to what Don's said, it comes across to me as a private injoke -- they get a kick from it, no doubt. It keeps the viewer guessing and "tuning in" and those involved in the cryptic messaging a sense of power over the members of the public nosing into sneds.


I'll bet that shortly a post by Caspa, Owl, Mongraal, or one of the others at SNEDs will post that "they received an email" LOL~! :!: :arrow: "asking" about this very subject. Rather, they'll intimate they've received "a number of emails". :lol:

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Exactly Brightstar exactly!

It makes no damn difference how "Saintly" Dan Burisch appears today.

He MUST stand trial for his past crimes and if he was a human with a conscious he wouldn't seek immunity before he speaks of what he knows. For what he would have to say would possibly save thousands of lives!

Yet he rather play deals and counter deals. While people die!


Dan Burisch's excuse?? "I was only following Majestic Orders."


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"I was only following Orders." Nazi Death Camp Guard posing with his dog. His job unloading the trains of Jews being sent to the gas.. Possible the same guard that might have seen Burisch's Jewish Grandfather last.


What's the difference Dan Burisch!?!?


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PS.. The same goes for you OWL, MONGRAAL, ANN, T, SDGOLD, The rest of you! The same for you!


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Shady,

I sure am glad that you posted this indeed. How much more plain could it be that Dan B. was involved in the Gulf War Syndrome biological warfare chemicals! God forbid!!!!!!!!!!! How can peoples live with themselves knowing they helped to make such horrible things like this?????

But this article even admits to these biologicals having a "signature", just as I posted earlier that Dr. Garth Nicholason said he found in all 11 pathogens that he isolated from blood samples of his daughter who became infected with them during the first Gulf War and that the Aids virus also had this same type of "signature". Meaning they were ALL MANUFACTURED and by being manufactured they have been unleased out on the unsuspecting populaces to spread and kill.

So I take this as him admitting his hands (Dan B.) are definitely not clean and it makes me wonder how any real human being can live with themselves knowing that they have helped make sick men, women, their children and possible even caused them to die, how can one face or look at themselves in the mirror each morning??? This is just beyond my comprehension and it takes a 'monster' or 'reptilian' mind to be able to do such horrible things to ones fellow human beings. And apparently this MJ12 bunch had their hands in it all also so they are just as dam guilty as I see it and this is what you call murder isn't it????


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That may be Don and Mjc (good posts btw.)


But here's what makes heros differently them from mice.


Hero's do the RIGHT and MORAL Thing even if it costs their lives!


An that is why ultimate Good will Win out over Evil.


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mjc wrote:
Dan_B is righteously "moral" and he's doing all these good deeds after working for an organisation that was frankly amoral -- so you can understand in a sense why he's compensating here. I don't think he's morally ambivalent, he is a man of conscience -- but this may have been undermined by coercion, physical violence and other events he was exposed to over the years while he was a card-carrying member of Majestic, that drew him reluctantly in the opposite direction that he wanted to go. I certainly wouldn't have wanted to have been in his position then, but you do what you have to and occasionally make unethical choices to survive -- and make it through the day. Dan may have come out of the other end a tad warped, hence the games, the lies and the character assassinations, but he's a survivor, unlike many of his colleagues in the Project Aquarius Team. Ultimately, if any of us had been in Dan_B's situation while he was in Majestic, then none of us would have come out of it smelling like roses.


Well-said, mjc. I distinctly remember the last time I was allowed to see Dan, after the 'Big Psy-Op'; I met him outside of Marci's apartment after dusk fell (he was sitting inside when I arrived, with Marci, looking for all the world like a normal middle-class couple having a cocktail after dinner) and we walked around the complex, talking. He already seemed to have a shoulder-shrugging attitude as if to say "yeah, I know, but what can we do about it..." when, at one point behind the main complex, he ducked inside an entranceway and, noticeably exhibiting fear, whispered words to the effect "you don't know what John {Dadmiral} can do, what he has done!". Even though most of that conversation was apparently monitored by a goon or two who listened in to our conversation, that particular 10 seconds or so may have been missed. It was a telling moment. It indicated that no matter what Dan felt or believed, he feared for his life were he to truly "disobey" {despite the name he and Marci like to flaunt}.


mjc wrote:
The Ferret wrote:
I'm puzzled as to why they post such 'secret' stuff on a public access forum? And then admonish each other with cryptic coded messages on the same forum, dropping little tantalising hints about their secret doings/trips? What do their average public members make of it all, I wonder? Surely stuff they should be posting by private mails? Confused

The Ferret, to add to what Don's said, it comes across to me as a private injoke -- they get a kick from it, no doubt. It keeps the viewer guessing and "tuning in" and those involved in the cryptic messaging a sense of power over the members of the public nosing into sneds.


I'll bet that shortly a post by Caspa, Owl, Mongraal, or one of the others at SNEDs will post that "they received an email" LOL~! :!: :arrow: "asking" about this very subject. Rather, they'll intimate they've received "a number of emails". :lol:


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An people wonder why we Pagan folk really dig nature ;)

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POLLEN MOON: Veteran astrophotographer P-M Hedén of Vallentuna, Sweden, has seen a lot of things in the night sky, but last night offered something new. "Wow!" he says. "I've never seen a Moon halo like this before."

Soft colors. Elliptical rings. A dark Scandinavian forest. It all adds up to a special type of halo called a "pollen corona." Each year, trees of the Northern forests release copious clouds of pollen. These airborne allergens not only make you sneeze, but also they diffract light, producing colorful rings around the sun and Moon. Because pollen particles are non-spherical, the coronas they make are elongated, sometimes with bright patches on their rings. "It was really beautiful," says Hedén.



... you know if really think about it another way. That's really an obscene pic.. plant porn lol


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Of course they deny it!... Why they haven't finished finalizing their other 911 False Flag Operation to induce Americans to demand they invade Iran.. lol

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Published on Tuesday, May 20, 2008.



Source: JPost
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite? ... e/ShowFull


The White House on Tuesday flatly denied an Army Radio report that claimed US President George W. Bush intends to attack Iran before the end of his term. It said that while the military option had not been taken off the table, the Administration preferred to resolve concerns about Iran's push for a nuclear weapon "through peaceful diplomatic means."

Army Radio had quoted a top official in Jerusalem claiming that a senior member in the entourage of President Bush, who concluded a trip to Israel last week, had said in a closed meeting here that Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney were of the opinion that military action against Iran was called for.

The official reportedly went on to say that "the hesitancy of Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice" was preventing the administration from deciding to launch such an attack on the Islamic Republic for the time being.

The Army Radio report, which was quoted by The Jerusalem Post and resonated widely, stated that according to assessments in Israel, the recent turmoil in Lebanon, where Hizbullah has de facto established control of the country, was advancing an American attack.

Bush, the official reportedly said, considered Hizbullah's show of strength to constitute evidence of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's growing influence. In Bush's view, the official said, "the disease must be treated - not its symptoms."

However, the White House on Tuesday afternoon dismissed the story. In a statement, it said that "[the US] remain[s] opposed to Iran's ambitions to obtain a nuclear weapon. To that end, we are working to bring tough diplomatic and economic pressure on the Iranians to get them to change their behavior and to halt their uranium enrichment program.

It went on: "As the President has said, no president of the United States should ever take options off the table, but our preference and our actions for dealing with this matter remain through peaceful diplomatic means. Nothing has changed in that regard."

In an address to the Knesset during his visit here last week, Bush said that "the president of Iran dreams of returning the Middle East to the Middle Ages."

"America stands with you in firmly opposing Iran's nuclear weapons ambitions," Bush said. "Permitting the world's leading sponsor of terror to possess the world's deadliest weapon would be an unforgivable betrayal of future generations. For the sake of peace, the world must not allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon."







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Can you say 'Evil" ..

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Rumsfeld: Why not another 9/11?


Published on Friday, May 16, 2008.



Source: Online Journal - Larry Chin
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish ... 3299.shtml


In a newly-released tape of a 2006 neocon luncheon meeting featuring former War Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, attended by ex-military "message force multiplier" propaganda shills Lt. General Michael DeLong, David L. Grange, Donald W. Sheppard, James Marks, Rick Francona, Wayne Downing, Robert H. Scales and others, Rumsfeld declared that the American people lack "the maturity to recognize the seriousness of the ‘threats’" -- and need another 9/11.

When DeLong complained about a "lack of sympathetic ears" in Congress, and a lack of interest among the general American public, Rumsfeld responded, "What's to be done? The correction for that, I suppose, is another attack."
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This videotape clip is part of a one-hour tape declassified by the Department of Defense in response to a Freedom of Information Act request. The entire clip, and analysis of this damning new revelation, can be found here: "The Correction for that . . . is another attack" (Jason Linkins, Huffington Post, 5/13/08)

For an independent op-ed about the same information, see Rumsfeld's Mind: If 9/11 worked, why not try it again? (Op-Ed News. It was also the topic of discussion on the May 14 broadcast of Nova M Radio’s Mike Malloy Program.

In the seven years since the day, exhaustive and still growing evidence proves beyond any reasonable doubt that the US government, spearheaded by the Bush administration, planned, orchestrated and executed the 9/11 false flag operation. As openly advocated by wide swaths of elites, from the People for the New American Century (PNAC), of which Rumsfeld has been a member, to the likes of Zbigniew Brzezinski (in his The Grand Chessboard), only an attack “on the order of Pearl Harbor” would, in Brzezinski’s words, cause the American people to support an “imperial mobilization,” and a world war.

Sept. 11, and its resulting “war on terrorism” (in Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib, etc.), remains the Bush administration’s endless gift from hell, in large part courtesy of Rumsfeld.

Placing the new evidence against previously revealed 9/11-related acts on the part of Rumsfeld, his guilt is overt and obvious. Recall that it was Rumsfeld who enthusiastically penned the "Go Massive" memo, gleefully declaring the Bush administration finally had the green light to kill: “Not only UBL (Usama bin Laden). Go massive. Sweep it all up. Things related and not.”

As the Bush administration’s war ensued in earnest, Rumsfeld gloated to the New York Times that 9/11 provided “the kind of opportunities that World War II offered, to refashion the world.”
It is not for nothing that Donald Rumsfeld was described by legendary war criminal Henry Kissinger as “the most ruthless man I’ve ever known.”


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The Nazi stormtroopers are NOW intimidating the Congressmen and Sentaors on the floor of the Capital why isn't this a bit surprising!?!.

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Published on Friday, May 16, 2008.



Source: AP

An anti-war Democratic congressman is demanding to know why there were uniformed Defense Department personnel watching House proceedings from a public gallery Thursday, who they were and what they were doing.

"If they were here on official duty, this was an abhorrent misallocation of our military resources at a time of war," Northern California Rep. Pete Stark asserted Friday in a letter to Defense Secretary Robert Gates.

Stark, an 18-term incumbent known for his liberal positions and outbursts of temper, said he observed the contingent of 20 or so officers, apparently Army generals, in the gallery for a couple of hours while the House debated and voted on an Iraq war spending bill.

"At a time when our nation is at war, our troops are overextended, and the administration is literally asking for emergency military spending, what good to the 'war on terror' is having U.S. generals and other top-ranked officers — who were likely accompanied by staff and escorted by their chauffeurs — spending hours sitting in the gallery of the House of Representatives?" Stark asked.

The query drew a stinging response from a Pentagon spokesman.

"It seems that Rep. Stark issued his press release before sending his letter to Secretary Gates because we have yet to receive it, but without knowing the particulars of the incident he is inquiring about I can tell you that there is nothing unusual about military officers visiting and/or observing the workings of Congress," said spokesman Geoff Morrell.

"Secretary Gates has actively encouraged the military to recognize the important role Congress plays in defense and national security," Morrell said. "For that very reason, visits to the Hill and interaction with members and staff is a routine part of many professional military education programs."

Stark said he didn't have a problem if the military personnel were there on their own time, but if they were there on official duty he wanted to know why. He asked Gates for an accounting by Monday of the name, rank, branch and duties of each of the officers as well as how many staff members and drivers were involved.



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Meanwhile your Homland Gestapo builds FAMILY Sectons for those Death Camps.. Oppsy Illigel Immigrent Detension Camps.. lol

Whats that old poem from WWII...

First they came for the Communists, I wasn't a communist so I didn't speak up.
Then the Trade Unionists,
Then the Homosexuals,
Then the Infirmed.

Then the Jews..

Then they came for me, but there was no one left to speak out.."



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Published on Monday, May 19, 2008.



Source: LA Times
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The federal government is accepting bids for up to three new family detention centers that would house as many as 600 men, women and children fighting deportation cases.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement issued a call for proposals last month and set June 16 as the deadline. New facilities are being considered on both coasts and on the Southwestern border. The agency calls for minimum-security residential facilities that would provide a "least restrictive, nonsecure setting" and provide schooling for children, recreational activities and access to religious services.

Family detention has been condemned by human rights groups and immigrant rights organizations as punitive and unnecessary. But immigration authorities said it ensures that immigrants show up for their court hearings and leave the country when ordered deported.

"Family detention has had the desired impact," ICE spokeswoman Kelly Nantel said. "We don't see as many families coming across the border. That automatic pass is no longer there."

There are currently two family facilities -- a former nursing home in Pennsylvania and a former prison in Texas. The T. Don Hutto detention center in Taylor, Texas, opened in 2006 and faced protests and lawsuits within the year charging that the children were living in substandard conditions. A settlement resulted in changes in how the children are treated.

New facilities would allow the government more flexibility and enable the agency to keep families together, Nantel said. In Los Angeles this week, three illegal immigrant mothers and their toddlers, including one American child, were among about 60 people discovered at a drop house used by smugglers. Because there is no family facility nearby, the women and children are being housed in a private shelter.

The American Civil Liberties Union criticized the proposed plan to open new family detention centers.

"After the horrible conditions that were revealed at the Hutto facility, it is very disappointing that the government appears to want to produce more immigration prisons for families and children," said Ahilan Arulanantham, a staff attorney at the Southern California office.

Arulanantham said most families do not pose a safety or flight risk and should not be detained. Instead, he said, they should post bonds, wear electronic monitors or be part of an intensive supervision program.

"There are other ways to deter illegal immigration without imprisoning children," he said. "This shows that we have become addicted to incarceration as a method to solving our problems, which it is obviously not."

In extreme cases, Arulanantham said, he could see families being housed in some sort of halfway house, but not a former prison run by a private prison company.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement plans to review the proposals and make a decision within several months, Nantel said. The bids could come from county governments or private companies. The facilities would house up to 200 people each, about 150 juveniles and 50 adults. Authorities estimate detainees would be kept at the center for between 20 and 30 days.

The proposal calls for minimal security facilities and refers to the centers as residential family shelters, but says the contractor should structure programs "designed to prevent escapes" and should provide a plan that "monitors resident movement and physically counts residents." Nobody with a criminal record would be admitted.

Corrections Corp. of America senior vice president Damon Hininger said he was aware of the request for proposals and that the company was "taking a look at it." The company already runs several immigration detention centers, including Hutto.

Hutto has 450 beds, and as of last week there were about 150 people being held in family detention there. If new facilities are built, Nantel said the agency would consider transferring the families out of Hutto and using it as an adult immigration detention center.

"Running a residential facility in what was a former prison, that was a challenge," she said. "There have been lessons learned out of Hutto."

When the center opened, children were given hospital scrubs to wear, forbidden to have toys and allowed only one hour of recreation per day, attorneys said. As a result of the settlement, children are allowed to wear pajamas, move freely around the center and bring toys into their rooms. There also have been changes made to the facility, including adding individual bathrooms, adding murals and replacing metal doors.

Given the national security goals of the Department of Homeland Security, advocates said they are skeptical about future family centers.

"They really do have this penal system model in their heads," said Andrea Black, coordinator of Detention Watch Network, a coalition advocating reform of immigration detention and deportation. "I think it's going to be challenging for them to actually be able to run a family facility that is nonpunitive given their current philosophy and practices."

The need to imprison families stems from the presence of so many illegal families sneaking across the border or hiding in the United States, said Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, a nonprofit group that advocates a reduction in the number of immigrants.

"This is really recognizing the realities of the illegal alien population," he said. "They used to let everybody out and trust them to come back. That hasn't worked out, to say the least. This is simply the pendulum moving back the other way."


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Here it is! The Last step to a total fascist State. Internal Control of Travel!

Here you are in a city or town that has a Hurricane baring down on it. Before you can board the buses out of town. You will have to PROVE to the Zog trooper that your a Citizen of the United States. Again they claim they will only be looking for illigels. But You Damn Know they will be using the Homeland Security No Fly lists and other agencies "undesirable" lists such as those of the FBI..

If you show up on those lists. The Story itself tells you. "THE CAMPS!"


Bye Bye America.. Hello Amerika!


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U.S. Citizenship To Be Checked In Event Of Storm


Published on Friday, May 16, 2008.



Source: Houston Chronicle
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/hea ... 84300.html

BROWNSVILLE — Ending speculation about the fate of the Rio Grande Valley's undocumented immigrants during a hurricane evacuation, U.S. Customs and Border Protection has confirmed it will check the citizenship both of people boarding buses to leave the Valley and at inland traffic checkpoints.

Those determined to be in the country illegally will be taken to detention centers away from the hurricane's path and later processed for deportation.

"It's business as usual at the checkpoints," said Dan Doty, spokesman for CBP's Rio Grande Valley sector. "We'll still check everybody."

Locals responded with predictions of humanitarian disaster.a

"We can't wait to see the helicopter photos of us sitting on roofs," said the Rev. Mike Seifert, a priest and activist based in a colonia outside Brownsville. The many area families with one or more undocumented members would just refuse to evacuate, he said.

"Imagine," Seifert said. "We're all in an uproar, everybody's in an enormous hurry, there's just a narrow window of opportunity and you get to the place with the buses and the Border Patrol's checking people. You're not going to go."

In the disastrous wake of hurricanes Katrina and Rita in 2005, officials in the Valley have pondered the politics of mass evacuation, illegal immigration and the checkpoints that filter northbound traffic every day.

After Hurricane Rita threatened the Houston area, clogging highways for miles, drying up gas pumps and creating chaos, emergency management officials set out to improve planning.

State Director of Homeland Security Steve McCraw in 2006 said the highway checkpoints should be closed if the Valley needed to evacuate. U.S. 77 parallels the coast and could be underwater once hurricane rains or flooding hit. Even if all the lanes on U.S. 281 are dedicated for northbound traffic, that's the main route for a population that now tops a million people.

Krista Piferrer, a spokeswoman for Gov. Rick Perry, said Thursday the state's stand on the issue had not changed.

"The governor's office prefers that the Border Patrol not use checkpoints during times of evacuation for obvious reasons," she said. "It will slow down traffic and create problems. ... During times of emergency our priority No. 1 is safety and we continue to hold on to the same belief."

At a recent discussion with reporters, Hidalgo County Judge J.D. Salinas said he didn't expect the Border Patrol to publicize a policy on the checkpoints for fear of inviting a free-for-all for illegal traffic.

The unofficial word, he said, was that agents recognized they'd have to be more lax amid a disaster.

But Tuesday, a reporter photographing a mock evacuation for the Rio Grande Guardian Web site saw Border Patrol agents rehearsing citizenship document checks of people boarding buses.

CBP's Doty confirmed this was the planned procedure and said those determined to be undocumented immigrants would be taken to separate shelters, likely detention centers in Laredo or San Antonio. He said the highway checkpoints would stay open.

Document checks are not mandatory at the checkpoints; it's up to an agent to assess travelers and determine whether to ask for papers. Doty said that even with the checks, 120,000 people could be evacuated within 80 hours.

"Our agents, they do it so often, they know what to look for," he said.

Doty could not say what would happen if children in a vehicle were citizens but parents were not, or if everybody but an elderly grandparent had a green card.

"We try to keep families together, but I can't put a U.S. citizen in a detention center," he said.

Cameron County Judge Carlos Cascos said locals would have to work with federal directives, but said document checks would hamper an evacuation.





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Senate Move May Forward On Thought Crimes Bill


Published on Thursday, May 15, 2008.



Source: Dissident Voice - Tom Burghardt

In the wake of Senator Joseph Lieberman (I-CT) and Susan Collins (R-ME) alarmist report, Violent Islamist Extremism, the Internet, and the Homegrown Terrorism Threat,"the Senate may be moving towards passage of the Orwellian Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 (S. 1959).

A companion piece of legislative flotsam to the House bill, The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 (H.R. 1955), the Democrat-controlled Congress seems ready to jettison Constitutional guarantees of free speech and assembly. The bill passed the House by a 404-6 vote in October. Twenty-three congress members abstained, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and House Judiciary Chairman John Conyers.

Under cover of studying violent radicalization,"both bills would broaden the already-fluid definition of terrorism"to encompass political activity and protest by dissident groups, effectively criminalizing civil disobedience and non-violent direct action by developing policies for prevention, disruption and mitigation."

Call it COINTELPRO 2.0.

Crafted by former House Intelligence Committee Chairwoman Jane Harman (D-CA), the legislation would create a domestic commission, a university-based Center of Excellence"that would study and then, target domestic radicalization"as a threat"to the homeland."

David Price, a professor of anthropology at St. Martin's University who studies state surveillance and the harassment of dissident scholars, told Jessica Lee of New York's Indypendent newspaper last year that Harman's bill is a shot over the bow of environmental activists, animal-rights activists, anti-globalization activists and scholars who are working in the Middle East who have views that go against the administration."

Evoking disquieting memories of political witchhunters ensconced in the House Committee on Un-American Activities and Senator Joseph McCarthy's Senate Subcommittee on Investigations, the anti-radicalization commission would be empowered to hold hearings and sit and act at such times and places, take such testimony, receive such evidence, and administer such oaths as the Commission considers advisable to carry out its duties."

With the power to subpoena and compel testimony from anyone, the commission would create the (intended) impression that a person forced to publicly testify before a congressionally mandated star chamber must be involved in subversive"or illegal activities.

According to Naomi Spencer,

The commission would be composed of appointees, one chosen each respectively by Bush, Homeland Security secretary Michael Chertoff, the Senate and House majority and minority leaders, and by the ranking majority and minority members of the two congressional homeland security committees. Such a selection process would certainly result in an extremely right-wing panel.1

When one considers that elite consensus favoring muscular"strategies for fighting terror" homegrown or otherwise emerge during a period when the Bush regime has illegally wiretapped phone calls, sifted e-mails, spied on political and religious organizations, and conducted extensive data mining of financial and other personal records, it becomes clear that the corporate police state is shifting into high-gear in a desperate move to criminalize ideological thought crimes."

The intent of the proposed legislation, however, goes far beyond an academic exercise. According to Jessica Lee, Harman stated that the National Commission [will] propose to both Congress and [Department of Homeland Security Secretary Michael] Chertoff initiatives to intercede before radicalized individuals turn violent."

In the context of the post-Constitutional New Normal" paradigm, Harman and her acolytes evoke images of Philip K. Dick's Department of Precrime in his dystopian novella, The Minority Report. Only here, in the bizarro world of outsourced homeland security,"mutant precogs are replaced by high-end and taxpayer funded data-miners, psychological profilers and social network analysts in the employ of dodgy security firms linked to America's military-intelligence complex.

The legislation specifically singles out the Internet as a weapon"for domestic radicalization. When she introduced her bill to the Senate last November, Harman remarked, There can be no doubt: the Internet is increasingly being used as a tool to reach and radicalize Americans and legal residents."

Equating America's web-surfacing habits with the threat of ideological infection by Islamist pod-people, Harman avers that the Internet allows Americans to become indoctrinated by extremists and to learn how to kill their neighbors ¡from the comfort of their own living rooms."

(Britney, Paris, better move over¡there's a new truck-bombing instructional posted over on YouTube! OMG!)

Harman's ludicrous pronouncement is considerably ramped-up by the Lieberman and Collins report, based on what else expert testimony "during hearings held by the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.

Lieberman and Collins claim that,

¡the report assesses the federal government's response to the spread of the violent Islamist message on the Internet and concludes that there is no cohesive and comprehensive outreach and communications strategy in place to confront this threat. The report does not discuss relevant classified tools and tactics employed by the law enforcement and intelligence communities, but does recognize that there is no plan to harness all possible resources including adopting new laws, encouraging and supporting law enforcement and the intelligence community at the local, state, and federal levels, and more aggressively implementing an outreach and counter-messaging campaign on the Internet and elsewhere.

In other words, independent"Democrat Lieberman and maverick Republican"Collins are proposing new tools "for regulating the Internet through a counter-propaganda campaign that would create message force multipliers" that support law enforcement"initiatives to crush the radical threat."

By targeting the Internet, House and Senate thought police claim that the Internet has aided in facilitating violent radicalization, ideologically based violence, and the homegrown terrorism process in the United States by providing access to broad and constant streams of terrorist-related propaganda to United States citizens."

But as the American Civil Liberties Union wrote last week,

Experience has demonstrated that in the event of a terrorist attack, the results of this report will likely be used to recommend the use of racial, ethnic and religious profiling. This will only heighten, rather than decrease, the spread of extremist violence. As an organization dedicated to the principles of freedom of speech, we cannot in good conscience support this report or any measure that might lead to censorship and persecution based solely on one's personal beliefs.

The ACLU is concerned that identifying the Internet as a tool for terrorists will lead to censorship and regulated speech especially since the Internet has become an essential communications and research tool for everyone. Indeed, some policy makers have advocated shutting down objectionable websites in violation of the First Amendment. It is an unworkable solution.2

Precisely. But wait, there's more! Citing the New York City Police Department (NYPD) as experts"in the area of homegrown radicalism,"the report avers:

After more than two years of research into homegrown terrorism cases in the United States and around the world, the New York City Police Department (NYPD) developed a model to explain how this core enlistment message, and the jihadi-Salafi ideology that provides the foundation for that message, drive the domestic radicalization process transforming unremarkable people"into terrorists.

Perhaps Lieberman and Collins should have consulted the family of Sean Bell as to the NYPD's expertise"on analogous crime modeling."Murdered by trigger-happy cops after a bachelor party the morning of his wedding, Bell's life was snuffed-out after he and his friends were shot some 50 times. The cops surprise! were recently found not guilty on all counts by a New York judge.

We can dismiss senatorial allusions to NYPD's acumen in the area of counterterrorist analysis"with the contempt it deserves. But let's be clear on one thing: the sole purpose of the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act"is to target the American people's constitutionally-protected right to say No.

If the U.S. House and Senate care to examine the root causes"of terrorism today, they need look no further than the on-going U.S. slaughter in Iraq a preemptive"war of choice to which they infamously gave their consent with eyes wide open.


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Dondep wrote:
mjc wrote:
Dan_B is righteously "moral" and he's doing all these good deeds after working for an organisation that was frankly amoral -- so you can understand in a sense why he's compensating here. I don't think he's morally ambivalent, he is a man of conscience -- but this may have been undermined by coercion, physical violence and other events he was exposed to over the years while he was a card-carrying member of Majestic, that drew him reluctantly in the opposite direction that he wanted to go. I certainly wouldn't have wanted to have been in his position then, but you do what you have to and occasionally make unethical choices to survive -- and make it through the day. Dan may have come out of the other end a tad warped, hence the games, the lies and the character assassinations, but he's a survivor, unlike many of his colleagues in the Project Aquarius Team. Ultimately, if any of us had been in Dan_B's situation while he was in Majestic, then none of us would have come out of it smelling like roses.


Well-said, mjc. I distinctly remember the last time I was allowed to see Dan, after the 'Big Psy-Op'; I met him outside of Marci's apartment after dusk fell (he was sitting inside when I arrived, with Marci, looking for all the world like a normal middle-class couple having a cocktail after dinner) and we walked around the complex, talking. He already seemed to have a shoulder-shrugging attitude as if to say "yeah, I know, but what can we do about it..." when, at one point behind the main complex, he ducked inside an entranceway and, noticeably exhibiting fear, whispered words to the effect "you don't know what John {Dadmiral} can do, what he has done!". Even though most of that conversation was apparently monitored by a goon or two who listened in to our conversation, that particular 10 seconds or so may have been missed. It was a telling moment. It indicated that no matter what Dan felt or believed, he feared for his life were he to truly "disobey" {despite the name he and Marci like to flaunt}.


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I'm puzzled as to why they post such 'secret' stuff on a public access forum? And then admonish each other with cryptic coded messages on the same forum, dropping little tantalising hints about their secret doings/trips? What do their average public members make of it all, I wonder? Surely stuff they should be posting by private mails? Confused

The Ferret, to add to what Don's said, it comes across to me as a private injoke -- they get a kick from it, no doubt. It keeps the viewer guessing and "tuning in" and those involved in the cryptic messaging a sense of power over the members of the public nosing into sneds.


I'll bet that shortly a post by Caspa, Owl, Mongraal, or one of the others at SNEDs will post that "they received an email" LOL~! :!: :arrow: "asking" about this very subject. Rather, they'll intimate they've received "a number of emails". :lol:


Yes, I suspected its back to attention-seeking drama, a need to draw in and manipulate. Anyone noticed the phrases used here are 'adopted' quickly into their posts, words such as 'conduit' in relation to angelic forces, and alluding to 'forcing square pegs through round holes' (very English, used by me here in a recent post!)

What they do they will have to answer for, that is the Law. No amount of do-goody charity work in soup kitchens will erase that karmic debt. Guilty conscience? Desperation?

Some of us are not fools however, and can see their actions for what they are.

Chaos magicians would suggest banishing with laughter... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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George Green - Messages for the Ground Crew - Part 1
Spokane, Washington, April 2008

George Green: ...he said, "I don't know how to tell you this, they just don't like you any more and I've been instructed to... that you're no longer creditworthy."
I said, "What do you mean, CREDITWORTHY? Only last week you gave me a million bucks on my signature."
"I gotta call all your loans," he says.
"We've been friends long enough," and he says, "I can help you some."
I say, "What does that mean?"
He says, "It's like what they're doing right now. You got thirty days."
All this money that the government is putting out is on thirty days.

KC: Right, all the loans...

GG: Exactly. Well, that's just to get themselves organized so they can pull things under. So, I have thirty days to come up with all these jillions of dollars.

KC: But, but were you shocked?

GG: Of course.

KC: Oh, okay, I was just wondering!

GG: I was totally blown away. But I also says, I know how to play your game. So, I tried to call some favors on some of my other banks that I helped, and they had their hands tied. I said, "Ahhh." So what I did then was immediately start unloading everything that I could, and I lost millions. I just went away... color it gone.

KC: Incredible.

GG: And then I said, Ah, the heck with it. So, Desiree and I, we moved to Boulder, Colorado, and I said, I'll just kinda kick back.
But then I sat in on a meeting with the Governor of Colorado, and he’s discussing the underground facilities in Australia, and he got his ticket.
I said, "What ticket?"
[Pause] ...He's one of the chosen ones.

KC: Oh, wow.

Bill Ryan: George, I have to ask you, though, if there are a bunch of people who have tickets for these underground facilities in Australia and elsewhere... what's the need to go underground at that point? Is it due to war, or to do with...

KC: Nuclear fallout?

GG: Yeah. Nuclear fallout.
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Start of interview

Kerry Cassidy: Hi, I'm Kerry Cassidy from Project Camelot. And we're very happy to be here today with George Green. We’re going to be asking him all sorts of questions he's never been asked before - try to get to the root of why he knows what he knows, why he's actually really on the cutting edge in many ways, and find out some secrets that he hasn't already told. So, welcome.

George Green: Thank you.

KC: Okay. So, George, let's go back to when you first broke into this. And I know you've told that story before, how you were kind of called up and the thing with... which Kennedy was it?

GG: You mean Ted Kennedy?

KC: Yes, and that whole incident, because that seemed to be - now you can correct me if I'm wrong - but that seemed to be like the eye-opening incident in which he sort of looked across the room and saw your daughter, and didn't know it was your daughter, and made a comment and what was going on then, and you were asked...

GG: Well, I'll give you the whole story. I was - prior to this meeting up there - I was volunteering to act as a president of companies. And I would go in and my job was to liquidate them. I was to get rid of the expendable containers: that’s the people.

And we'd raid all the assets, and we'd split themem when we got through doing all of that. But I did it as a game. I just figured if you weren't smart enough to get up where, quote - "we were" - you deserve what you get.

Anyway, as I was running around the country, I got introduced to a lot of the powerful people, if you want to call it that. And anyway, one weekend I was invited up to Aspen. I was going to Aspen all the time anyway. I built the dormitory for Colorado Mountain College, which was close, up in Leadville. I built a house in Aspen. Estee Lauder actually built a house next to the house that I built up there.

And anyway, I come into the meeting, into this room, and - I brought my two daughters up so they could go skiing - and I said, "What am I here for?" They said, "We have decided we want you to be the Finance Chairman for the next President of the United States."

I said, "I just started this hundred million dollar project." I mean, last week I was with Bill Levitt, you know, at the Beverly Hills Hotel, sitting around a swimming pool, discussing building cities. Bill Levitt built Levittown, Pennsylvania, and Levittown, New York, just so you know.

KC: Right, absolutely.

GG: Anyway, I said, "Well, I got the next question: why me?"
And they said, "Well, number one, you're pretty good with money, and we owe you a favor."
And I says, "Well, the next question I have is, who's going to be the next President?"
And they said, "Jimmy Carter".
And I says, "Jimmy who?"
And they said, "Well, he's the Democratic Governor of Georgia."
And I said, "But I've been voting Republican."
This tall guy, Paul Boeker, walks over and said, "Son, don't worry about it, we control 'em both."

KC: [laughs]. So is this your introduction to the Illuminati? Or did you have a clue before that?

GG: No, I was... I was running with them. I was running around with the guys, but I didn't have the... each one of them, they compartmentalize all the information that you get.

KC: Okay.

GG: You know, you can go... when you're with the people that are making the plays, they have certain ego things that they want to satisfy. Kissinger said that the absolute aphrodisiac is power. So we put anybody they want to in power. And then just feed them whatever they wanted to. I mean, I joked about it. I mean, I can wear my jeans and go down and borrow a million bucks on my signature...

KC: Uh huh.

GG: ...no questions asked. Anyway, this meeting changed all this stuff because, like you said.
I said, "Well, I got the next question I have is, What does the Finance Chairman do?"
And they said, "Well, you sit with Ted."
So, I sat down with Ted Kennedy, and Ted was right next to me. And he said, "George, you're going to love this job. We're going to send you out to all the state Democratic functions. You're really good with money, and you raise money for the National Democratic Party.” And he said, "Then you're going to meet some real foxy ladies."

Well, they all think that way, frankly. It isn't just Ted, they all do. So I... and just coincidentally, my daughter walks in. Now, my daughter is a very attractive young lady.

Ted goes, "Wow, I have to go to bed with that."

And I said, "No, Ted. That's my daughter, and she's fourteen."
His response back to me: "I don't care."

That's when everything kind of stopped to me. I mean, I go, wait a minute. I gave him the guidelines. I mean, I know how he thought. But when he said he didn't care what I thought about it, then I just said, that's enough.

I got up, didn't say another word to Ted. I walked across the room. I'm talking to Pierre Trudeau and his wife. Pierre at that time was the Prime Minister of Canada. And I'm talking to him just to get my head leveled.

I mean I just looked at that character over there across the room - and I'll share with some of the other people who were there. I’m looking in front of Pierre and there was a little half cigar box full of white powder.

I grabbed the housekeeper, and I went into the back room, and I'm looking at the dresser, and on top of this dresser was this... is all these glass tubes. Now I went to the Colorado School of Mines. I majored in geophysics, and chemistry was just kind of a fun game, right? And I never looked at them. I couldn't believe what they were doing. I said, "What is this thing?” And they said, "It’s freebasing equipment." They're just using all this stuff.

KC: Crazy.

GG: I said duh... to myself. So I walked... this was - the meeting was on a Friday afternoon. And I said to the people who invited me up there, I says, "Look, this is a big decision in my life. I mean, I don't want to stop my hundred million dollar project even though you'll warehouse it.” That's what they told me. "Let me think about it and I’ll let you know on Monday."

Monday, after consideration of everything else, and, some of the guys were talking about what they had planned, which is the Global 2000 agenda, the Plan 2000, which Jimmy Carter put in writing. Every Congressman got a copy of it. As Kissinger says: the number one problem we have on planet Earth right now - there's too many people.

Well, if you look at that, you would probably agree - so does everybody else. 40% of the world’s population is existing on less than two dollars a day. If I drop it down to a dollar, we still got a billion and a half people. And you have no idea what a billion people are, until you go to China and walk among them.

And there's a billion three hundred million over there. But you have to experience that. I mean, I spent a month in China. Now, here's the problem. When you're - and Bucky Fuller and I spent an afternoon discussing, remember his big geodesic domes and all that?

KC: Uh huh.

GG: I told him that they're not practical. Because when you're building, the biggest problem with building is your seams. How many seams do you have, for instance, in a geodesic? They're all over. That's the reason you go to the monolithic. I have a picture, I'll show you, the monolithic stuff that you should have.

BR: Which is just like... an entire half hemisphere. Not a half hemisphere, it's an entire hemisphere, isn't it?

GG: Well, you blow up a balloon, and... I have a picture. Do you want me to grab the picture real quick? I'll just show it.

BR: Sure.

GG: That dwelling is like a big balloon and what you do is - we'll blow the concrete up on the inside along with four inches of foam for insulation.

KC: Hm.

GG: [Shows photographs of domes.] Now you have something that - the structure will be able to withstand 340 mph winds that are coming... that will be coming to us. This structure here, you can heat it with about ten hundred-watt light bulbs. So, you don't have any energy use.

The biggest problem with these units, at this minute, is that since the air is basically stagnated, you have to have circulating of the air and then the humidity's always at least 50%. So you have to address that, but we have a lot ways to cure all that problem. Meanwhile, it doesn't take anything to heat them. They'll withstand anything. The only thing that concerns me is that a lot of stuff, nothing's going to withstand the winds that are going to be coming down to us very shortly.

KC: Well, have you heard of earthships?

GG: Yeah.

KC: Have you been in one?

GG: Yeah.

KC: Yeah? And what do you think?

GG: Well, here's ... well, as a builder. When you build all these things that are coming down, you can have these ships. Will they withstand a tree going through the air at three hundred miles an hour?

KC: Right.

GG: And hitting it. See, that's what you have to have to look at, and it isn't just necessarily that, look at the Indians in the Southwest, in Four Corners. They build them up against the cliffs and they build them inside.

KC: But, I'm going to come back to that because I want to go back to our story that you started with.

GG: Okay.

KC: And just talk about, kind of like, what kind of - I don’t know - mental, emotional roller coaster did you go on, in order to get to the place where you are now? Because, you seem to be pretty... pretty calm, pretty content, and pretty solid with what's happened to you. And I understand that you're having communications with the Pleiadians, too. Or you have had.

GG: Well, remember that's... yeah, I have had. But we're gone past that. It's only one... that's only one level within this complex of information.

KC: So you're, are you meaning, you're talking to other beings, or...

GG: Well, let's put it this way. In John, in The Bible, whichever one most people use, John 1 says, "In the beginning there was the Word." Remember that?

KC: Uh huh.

GG: Well, that was not even correct. In the beginning was thought. Aren't words thought out loud? You pray, you put out thought.

KC: Sure.

GG: Meditate, you're hoping to receive thought.

KC: Mm hm.

GG: So we'll have to give an understanding if you continue that thing. Then really what is thought but God as you would know it.

KC: Mm hm.

GG: Okay, or the Creation's thinking. Now the creation make manifest, as they say, or God may manifest in different dimensions, at many times, right?

KC: Mm hm.

GG: So we manifest at this dimension, this illusion, which you and I consider this hologram, right?

KC: Right.

GG: Which consists of the soul plus the vibration of light. And the vibration of light is the frequency that you consider, looking at you as a solid object. Now, what's holding that solid object together? Do you know? It's your soul.

KC: Right.

GG: It's wholly within. It weighs 22 grams. They always tell you it's within. It's based on the hydrogen. The universe is very logical, so you have to see how it's all put together. Now, Kerry, using you as an example, if you're nothing more than the hologram of condensed light, how do I affect that condensed light? Well, we can affect that by the lights, right? If I put you - well, we don't have any in this room - but if I put you under fluorescent fixtures, it will cause this physical being to be very weak.

KC: Right.

GG: I can also affect it by thought.

KC: Mm hm.

GG: We can make you weak. You've seen, probably seen my demonstrations on how I make you weak... or let me show you. Can I use you as a demonstration?

KC: Yeah, sure.

GG: Okay. What I'm going to do is that.

KC: You're going to do the arm thing?

GG: Yeah, I'm going to do the arm thing, because you're going to hold it out...

KC: Okay.

GG: We’ll use, now what I'm doing is, your arm is the kinesiology bit, basically holding energy. Okay, you hold it up, right? I want you to hold it up. But since you are rays, many of them that go out, and I see what we call the aura around people.

KC: You do?

GG: Oh yeah, well, you will learn how to do that yourself, at some point. What I need to do is - now, put your arm out again.

KC: Actually, I do. Okay...

GG: Okay, we're going down. Okay, what I'm going to do is cut your energy line, which I just did. What happened to your arm? See how weak it got? [Pushes her arm down as she resists.] You can't do it. Now, when a priest comes up to you - hold your arms out, both of them. When a priest comes up to you - this is another mind control game. They come up to you and they go like this - and they split them so guess what? How weak did you get?

KC: [Laughs].

GG: You see? What we are doing is a combination of mind control and body control of this hologram. Now, how did we manipulate it? By light, colors, and action.

KC: Mm hm.

GG: How do we keep it in vibration, or keep it in balance? The whole key is keep everything in balance. Now, when you depart this planet, when you're talking about it, whether it's... if you've seen the Billy Meier videos, or the movies on that, you see him beamed aboard. What we do is condense light back to frequency and you're beamed aboard a craft. It's like going from here to the Pleiades, in a few hours. I didn't bring the documents that I just recently got from them, which told me about the speed on how they can go from here to the Pleiades, which is 500 light years...

KC: Okay, but how did you get those documents?

GG: Well, I did a lecture and somebody asked me a little bit about how fast it takes, and they said that the two craft - the wedding cake and another, which is the latest variation - they were saying how long it took for that craft to go from there to the Pleiades at the constant level of, or the temperature of outer space. And, I got to thinking about that. What is the constant temperature of outer space?

BR: Pretty much absolute zero.

GG: It’s 273 degrees below zero.

BR: It’s absolute zero, yes.

GG: Yeah, but when everything’s there, and at these speeds, the latest variation takes a couple hours. The other ones take four or five hours to make it, but what they do is condense all matter back to light. It’s kind of like what we’re doing here, condensing everything down to a CD.

KC: Okay.

GG: And then we take that CD and then re-manifest it. And that’s what they're doing now, making, they’re making holograms, when you go to...

KC: Right, absolutely.

GG: You know, if you go to Disney World, for instance. Down there in the Haunted Mansion, you see the hologram, right? You do know how to make a hologram? Well, our scientists have learned how to make people. They call them synthetics. Are you familiar with those?

KC: Well, actually we just interviewed John Lear, and he was talking about being in an audience in which they were given a lecture by a guy that they thought was real - and found out later that he was a hologram.

GG: He was a synthetic. A synthetic’s when you touch their skin, it feels like plastic, almost. That’s the latest technique. The old techniques... you guys rent a video, The Boys from Brazil. Rent it, because, in it, it gives you the exact way how our government has been making people.

KC: Really.

GG: Yeah.

KC: Well, come on..

GG: And the Soviets have a different method called...

KC: ...making people, meaning temporary people?

GG: No. Walking, talking ones.

KC: Meaning through genetics? You’re not talking about that?

GG: Well, let me tell you. You let me... the movie shows it, but I’ll share it with you right now.

KC: All right.

GG: All I need to do is take two cells off of your body. Yours.

KC: Uh huh.

GG: We give them a small electrical charge. I’m just condensing. It’ll act like a fertilized egg. If I got a fertilized egg, all I need is a receiver in order to make it. So they were hypnotizing women, you know. Said they were being invaded by aliens and the fetus starts growing, right? Needs food.

Well, they can use cows and sheep too. Again, a food source, that’s all we need. After about 14 weeks, all of a sudden, that fetus is gone, because they’ve learned to take... that’s when the fetus starts developing its own blood supply. Then they've used the pituitary hormone extract, that they have, that accelerates the being that grows.

The original technology was given to our government by the Grays. Now the reason was, that our scientists were all excited because we could have spare parts. If you need a heart or a liver or anything, you don’t have any rejection because it’s your own DNA, right?

KC: Okay, because, theoretically, if we have overpopulation, we don’t need more people, right?

GG: The so-called 'elite' are selecting who they want to have around, anyway. So we want to keep people going as long as we can. I’ve talked to the doctor that was working on the regeneration of Castro, for instance.

KC: Right.

GG: On the DNA sequencing, and they’re just learning about this.

KC: Well, my understanding is that a lot of presidents have already been replaced.

GG: That’s right.

KC: They’re walking around - they look old, but basically some of the people are second, third copies...

GG: I’ll give you something to ponder. Get some old videos of George Bush, when he first came into office. Look at the person and listen to him speak. Look at his actions, and listen to his... everything that’s there. Now, it’s a lot easier to put somebody out in front to act as a - you know, even Bush did. He had somebody else that was up there acting like he is and looking like it.

Even Hitler had a... you know, he had his stand-in. In fact, his stand-in was the one that they found in the ground over in Germany. I mean Hitler and Eva and the dog, and 14 other people got aboard a plane and flew down to Barcelona, Spain. You were aware of that. And then ended up in Antarctica, or in Schwabenland, and then died a few years ago in Brazil.

KC: That’s what we heard.

GG: I have all the documents from our own government.

KC: Oh you do, okay.

GG: Yeah.

KC: Yeah, we have a contact. One of our contacts...

GG: Stalin, even. Stalin asked, you know, they tried to burn the body, and he got the body back and said, wait a minute, he had different ears, and the testicles were different, everything else. So they knew it wasn’t Hitler.

KC: But is it a clone, or not?

GG: Now you need to know a bit about cloning. Cloning techniques... since '38 we’ve been, 1938, they’ve been making cloned people. There’s eight countries making clones. I have a doctor friend and all he does is treat the clones.

KC: Where do you get your information?

GG: I get it from some of the people that are willing to come forth. And they talk to me because they hope I’ll put the information out, because they always got two people following them and they may be killed by start talking about cloning too much.

The people that get involved into that disappear on it, so I don’t go into too many more details. But there is information that’s available. More and more of that is coming online. I just told you, go rent the movie.

KC: The Boys from Brazil?

GG: Yeah, and you’ll see the whole technique on what they... they show it to you in different places, so you can imagine what is going on.

KC: Okay, so...

GG: Now, let’s go to the next step because this is the most important part.

KC: Alright.

GG: If your physical reality that you have, based on this physical life that you have, this dream, is made up of the experiences that is impregnated on your body and in your mind, consciously, right?

KC: Mm hm.

GG: Your soul memory is another thing.

KC: Mm hm.

GG: It goes back whatever time that you elected to be in this incarnation for whatever reason. So let’s show you the division on these things. Since the body’s very physical, and we just got you making a physical being in a few months for spare part, t hey said, “Now we got the perfect deal, how can we have that work better?”

Well, if you go to the hospital today and get an encephalogram, what’s that? That’s the memory of your conscious mind. It’s on the CD, let’s download it on this being. Now we got a walking-talking duplicate that has the total memory that you have, because we just took it off of your own mind.

KC: Okay, it’s like Blade Runner, the android.

GG: Exactly. The only thing is that it’s like this DVD recorder. Sometime you have glitches in it, so you have to have them tuned up occasionally or re-done. And so we take them to Camp David, or there’s a wing at Bethesda Hospital. I’ll just tell you. If you go down there and check, you’ll find the nurses - if they’re willing to come forth, they’ll tell you they work on those people and they call them The Others. I thought it was interesting.

KC: [laughs]

GG: They’re people. Remember? These people can think and act, but they don’t have a soul. That’s also prophesied.

KC: Right, that’s true.

GG: Soulless beings. Now, we have another agenda that’s going on, so you have to be careful of all this. There are many extraterrestrials that would like to be in on the game right now. So they can sometimes, will come into these physical beings that we've made, to manipulate them.

KC: I see.

GG: So now you have a combination effort that you have to look at in discernment. You have to discern what the game is. Well, just figure that most of the leaders that we have in the world had been bought and paid for, or created to think a certain way - in the world.

KC: But I - okay now, to get back to what I’m asking you, is like, so you sort of had this crystallization moment. You were basically thinking like them. You were making money like them. So is that just the beginning of a path that you went on, at that point, or did you have an instantaneous change?

GG: I’m looking back at my experience and when I had all that thing. That’s when I made a conscious decision when they...

KC: When you refused the job.

GG: Well, the job entailed - it wasn’t a question of doing that, it was what they were going to do after that. And after that was to reduce the world’s population down to 500 million.

KC: Right.

GG: I said, wait a minute, I don’t want to be part of that.

KC: Okay.

GG: I mean, it’s something, wait a minute. You know, I want to know more about that because I... as a kid I was brought up... one of my friends, Dr. Walter Moyer, was one of the team, the doctors that dug up the Dead Sea Scrolls. And he came back and he gave me a lot of the information. He said, they’ll never let it out to the churches. There’s no such person as Jesus that was... no evidence that anybody ever lived like that.

KC: Mm.

GG: You know. Well, that of course takes care of organized religion, per se, as they look at it. So I said, well, wait a minute, I’m going to look at that story. So I started analyzing, but also on a logical basis. Then, the information that I had received from extraterrestrials about life, per se. And life begins maybe before you came into this planet.

KC: Oh, definitely before that.

GG: That you select... but they say, at the moment of conception. As a coincidental thing from the extraterrestrials, now this all fits together... we didn’t talk about it. My first extraterrestrial thing was when I went through the Air Force, and that was in 1958.

I’m stationed at Edwards Air Force Base out in the Mojave Desert, and did the post-flight inspection of the X-15, the forerunner of the space shuttle. When I finished doing that... it’s nothing more than a rocket on skids as it lands out in the desert.

There was a couple of hangers that I hadn’t been to. So, I just... I was curious. I mean, I was cleared for Top Secret. I just went inside of it and there's - I’m looking just as close as you are - a disk.

You know, a lot bigger than this room. But this is unusual, and I’m sitting here kind of watching. I say, maybe I want to find out more about this. So anyway, I go back in and ask my commander about this, and he... he basically told me it was an ion-powered craft designed by Sikorsky, the helicopter people, for use in outer space.

KC: [Laughs]

GG: You know, I accepted what he said, I was naive. And I said, “Well, when can I work on it?” And he says, “You can’t. It’s still a civilian project.” You know, Edwards is a crossover base. When I was there, there was only 800 airmen and 25,000 civilians. The civilian contracting companies make these vehicles, then the Air Force tests them. That’s what they do out there. So I had all kinds of weirdo planes that I worked on.

I just - coincidences, if you want to call it that - happened to be running around with my buddy who was the base photographer. And, so I tell him, I says, “Get me some pictures of that disk.” Cause he’s given me everything else. And he said, “Uh, what did they tell you?” I told him, and he said, “That’s not true.” And proceeded to show me pictures of the spacecraft. Well, I already saw that - but the two dead aliens got my attention. Cause they were not... they were, you know, humanoid, but more like the Grays that you see in the movies.

KC: Mm hm.

GG: Well, that made me a little confused. Hey, rah rah, I’m in the Air Force. I love my country. I’ve got all this stuff. I’m cleared for Top Secret. Why did my commander lie to me? Well, I’m kind of inquisitive, right? So I went down and asked my commander.

First thing, he blew up. He reminded me of my Top Secret clearance. So we joked about it. Because, at that time, the fine was $10,000 if you said anything, and jail time. I said "I’m not worried..." - because my family had money - I said, "I’m not too worried about the $10,000, but that jail time had me bothered." So I said, “I won’t say anything more about it.”

His last comment was: “When the government’s ready to tell the truth about UFOs and ETs, they will. Until then, you stick to your story.” Then he said, “Oh, by the way, next week is Armed Forces Day.” This is one of these other crazy things the Air Force does.

KC: Mm hm.

GG: They open up the base and let everybody come walking in, all the vehicles, everything. I mean, the week before I have to sign in even for me to work on the thing, now they let everybody come out and do it, right?

But these craft were... the disk that I saw was probably four miles away or five miles out farther in the desert. So, anyway, he put me on duty and then I was subsequently transferred off the base. You know other things had happened to me at that point...

KC: I mean, I know something about your interaction. You’ve told the story about meeting Billy Meier and helping him with his...

GG: That happened later, that was 1984.

KC: Okay, so did you have ET contact, though, that you were conscious of between when you met Billy Meier and when you saw the disk?

GG: No, the disk was prior to that.

KC: I know. But in that time line... did you... conscious...

GG: I had, I had... was consciously aware of something, but didn’t know what was going on.

KC: Okay.

GG: It’s only when I got to Billy that the real thing showed up.

KC: Okay.

GG: All of a sudden, now the world’s coming to real... it’s like when you give the ETs permission to communicate, they will if the need is there. And whether it’s physical or nonphysical, I have no idea.

KC: Well, did you give them permission?

GG: Of course.

KC: When you met Billy...

GG: When I met Billy, I gave Billy - it’s Billy, the extraterrestrials - I said, I’ll help you out. I mean, the story was unbelievable. Like I say, it’s a funny game. I’m sitting here making a contract orally with them and Billy, trying to get things squared away, to put out the story to the world about what the Pleiadians were doing in Billy’s story, because it was important.

KC: Right.

GG: You know, I flew back to... you know about that. I flew back to Beverly Hills. My attorneys there were the attorneys for Screen Actors Guild at that time. And at that, I said... Billy had already given away the worldwide rights to his story to a couple down in Phoenix, you know, Wendelle’s friends.

KC: Right.

GG: And who I already financed.

KC: Mm hm, yes.

GG: So, you know, the games become a little bit more convoluted at that point. Anyway, I was hoping my attorney would be able to set it up, so we could go ahead with my agreement I gave to the ETs, that I would help disseminate their information. Because they wanted to wake up the people here on the planet. In their story, they say that they basically engineered this planet... was basically engineered for 500 million people.

KC: Okay.

GG: And now you have to remember that they said that. In fact, Semjase, the girl that was in contact with Billy, her big deal, she says, “I go around to different planets.” It’s her job. To see what it takes to engineer them for more life, ‘cause there are lots of planets capable of maintaining humans. This happens to be, as they say, the prison planet.

KC: Right.

GG: Only one race, lots of different colors. We all come from different star systems.

KC: Mm hm.

GG: As it turns out, the last time I was over at Billy’s, you know, there’s a guy seven meters tall. I didn’t see him, but I saw his footprint. I mean Billy, you know, put his shoulders on...

KC: Okay, but they, the Pleiadians... cause we went out to Billy. We tried to get an interview, and we couldn’t. This is recent, you know, not that long ago...

GG: Sure.

KC: ... and, he’s basically not giving interviews, more or less.

GG: Oh, I know why...

KC: He’s kinda gotten very jaded by the whole thing, you know...

GG: Yes, I know.

KC: So we had a very interesting experience. We took a photograph of me standing next to the Silver Star emblem he has up there...

GG: ...and the camera was blank.

KC: No. The picture was SILVER.

GG: Yes.

KC: Everything before and after is in color...

GG: Yes.

KC: ...but I’m in SILVER.

GG: Now that’s the Pleiadians that were there.

KC: They were playing with me. They were giving a message.

GG: That’s right.

KC: They were saying, “Hi.” You know...

GG: Have you talked to Dr. Jim Deardorff, either?

KC: Well, I know who he is.

GG: Well, See, Deardorff went over there, when I came back, see the document that was not under the contract with Billy and the guys down in Arizona, was The Talmud of Immanuel, The Teachings of Immanuel.

KC: Yeah, right.

GG: Well, that’s where Billy and I had a little falling out. He doesn’t like me about that, because I gave it to all kinds of people.

KC: Okay.

GG: And, anyway, during that period of time when I was over there - you know the holes in the tree? You saw them when you were over there, didn’t you?

KC: I don’t think so.

GG: Anyway, well, when he took the laser pistol and went out there...

KC: Okay.

GG: Well that was happening when we were there.

KC: Alright.

GG: Anyway, we were given permission to go take three pictures. That’s all he said. Three pictures.

KC: Oh right, I remember. Okay, yes.

GG: My camera is 36-roll film. Anyway, 22, 23, and 24 was great. Well, I took another one, because there’s one way up. Totally blank. Well, I mentioned that to Jim Deardorff. The exact same thing happened to him. He took his three pictures and then the 4th one... his camera jammed.

KC: Right.

GG: Now, the same thing happened, like yourself. Because Billy is being monitored like I’m being monitored, the guys are here right now, they’re...

KC: Okay, when you say the guys, you’re talking intel or are you talking ETs?

GG: Extraterrestrials, or other-dimensional.

KC: Yeah.

GG: Okay?

KC: Yeah, well, we’re used to this, and, you know, that’s good.

GG: What they’re trying to do is...

KC: The good ones and bad, negative ones.

GG: We have to look at the much bigger picture when it comes to good and bad, because now we start making judgments, and that’s... we have a rule book that they’ve given us. The question is, that the Creation is trying to figure out what it is, and giving us free will to expand that. You understand when you wake up in the morning. There’s a hormone called serotonin, that wakens your body up into what we call the 3D world.

KC: Right.

GG: Okay, when the sun goes down, because this is all triggered by light, then melatonin steps in and your body goes to sleep, right? Theoretically.

KC: Right.

GG: Between midnight and four, there’s a downloading that occurs, the uploading. So you should, if you can do that, be in constant communion, you can be in constant communion with the Creation or the hierarchy that is assisting you at this goal because this planet is very important.

KC: Right.

GG: I mean, everything's important within the universe.

KC: Mm hm.

GG: And good and bad is only measures of to see how... what works and what doesn’t work, and of the four rules of the universe which we already have, the final one is balance. Well, we’re so out of balance on this planet...

KC: Okay, but when is... okay, I mean, attraction...

GG: Law of Attraction.

KC: Right.

GG: What you put out, you’re going to get back.

KC: Right.

GG: The Law of Intent. Remember, we got thought made manifest, what did we intend to make. The third one is the Law of Allowance.

KC: Allowance. Okay, but see, the Law of Allowance, that’s where you get into the negative and the positive.

GG: Well, you’re allowing it to...

KC: Because if they're going to interfere...

GG: Exactly. Now you come to the last one. No matter what, it has to come in balance. We on this physical plane measure everything in the sequence of time. Can’t do that, ‘cause we don’t know. You and I, we have the old...

KC: In other words, you could be rectifying a balance, because, for example, the United States and slavery. You’re talking, what went on in the past, balanced by the future...

GG: Exactly, the karmic reactions. Now, the only thing that exists is right now. The future potentials are there. Now somehow, like Billy, you’re probably aware, was taken forward in time, and had taken pictures of the future events, World War Three, and what’s coming on from there.

I saw the destruction, I mean, I saw all the pictures of San Francisco. I couldn’t get Billy to come over here to the United States to appear in court.

KC: I know, but, but, look. Nothing yet, right?

GG: Oh, but I, no... but think about this. If I saw the pictures, and I’m aware of what the Global 2000 agenda is, which calls for war to...

KC: Yeah, the Iron Mountain Report is the same thing, right?

GG: Same thing. To get a war started in the Middle East which is to spread to the United States, right?

KC: Right.

GG: Well, San Francisco is destroyed before the war. It’s not a nuclear explosion. So, we’re right on the precipice. I’m also monitoring right now... I talked to, out in California this morning. There was three earthquakes out there.

Now, they only release this stuff if it's over [Richter scale] 3. It’s over a thousand a day, it’s like a little chip, you know, in a cracker. So, we know it’s going to break at any time, right now. It’s coming up to the point when the San Andreas is going to move.

I was with the TV crews up in Sacramento. They're ready for it at any time. They know that it’s coming. The scientist I talked to up there says, “Well, we think it’s going to go a minimum of eighteen feet.” Well, that totally wipes out southern California. All the water, the whole game, the whole thing comes apart. When I got all this data...

KC: I have dreams of the future that tell me things like this, and I’ve seen San Francisco.

GG: Okay, well then you’ve got the same thing. Well, I moved. I said, “Enough of this.” You know, I had a house two blocks from the Beverly Hills Hotel. I got out of there. I had a nice house at La Costa, you know, North County San Diego. I’m gone out of California.

And then, looking at the rest of the thing, how do I maintain balance? When we talked before, when I agreed, when I said no to doing the job of being the Finance Chairman, this is where the story continues on. When I said no to doing that, that was on Monday. That Friday, my lead banker calls me in my office and said, “George, you know, you’re no longer one of us. I have to call all your loans.” I mean, I was under construction.

So, anyway, it took me a couple of years to unwind myself. I said, “I don’t want any more to be a part of this.” But then I got really deep into the Global 2000 agenda for population reduction. Then is when I really started to get into it. I said, “Wait a minute, we gotta wake people up.”

KC: When you say you got into it, you mean you, do you mean...

GG: I sat there with the Governor and we’re talking about wiping out the American population down to twenty million.

KC: This is after you got offered that job?

GG: Oh yeah.

KC: And so, in a certain sense, you were still, kind of like, going along with that program?

GG: Well, no, I was going on - well no.

KC: Or were you just trying to educate yourself?

GG: Educating, but also was saying, I know what the agenda is, they won’t bother me, particularly, right? It’s only when I started to publicly say what they’re coming down, is I started to get the reverberations at any point. It’s like when the Feds themselves, the Federal Reserve - they didn’t like me because I learned how to break banks. Which was...

KC: Okay, then, how long after the time when you had this sort of realization moment...

GG: The Billy Meier thing really opened up everything. And within a period of, let’s say, a year, I started to say: “Wait a minute, what I’m doing is not correct.” The population reduction scheme that they’re going to do, the money game... hell, I made my own bank outside the Federal Reserve.

So it’s, you know, I’ve already done that. Been there, done that game. Well, let’s go on to something bigger. Well, then I made my agreement with the ETs. I mean, I had told them, I says, “If my word’s no good, then nothing is.” Well, what do you have?

KC: Absolutely.

GG: So anyway, the information I have...

KC: Wait, wait, wait: did you tell them telepathically?

GG: No, I told them just like you and I. I mean, we’re sitting here...

KC: You talked - out loud?

GG: We’re talking out loud, we’re talking about how little...

KC: You’re talking about the ones who are walking around looking like humans that you talked to?

GG: These are humans, yeah.

KC: Okay.

GG: But not Pleiadians - above the Pleiadians.

KC: Really.

GG: Yeah. And it goes higher than that.

KC: Oh, I’m sure they do. So what were those, do you know? Did they tell you where they’re from?

GG: No, we didn’t go into that. In fact, it was very... rather than having people identify, like with Billy saying it’s the Pleiadians, or like when I was in Spain, with the Ummos, or in South America, you know, there’s a lot of different groups that claim that - none of them - they all have different objectives. They were in contact with me, they said things to me, you know, in my head.

KC: Really.

GG: Well, when I had some answers that just came out of nowhere, you know how that is, they’re just in communication. Because I’m constantly being aware of them.

KC: Right now?

GG: Well, I know they’re around, sure. They watch me all the time.

KC: Sure. But are you able to discern when it is you, or when it is some inspiration or something you’re getting, when you’re...

GG: Oh yeah, when they want to get a hold of me...

KC: Uh huh.

GG: I mean when they really seriously want to get a hold of me.

KC: Right.

GG: In my house, the phone will ring.

KC: The real phone or just a phone?

GG: It sounds just like a phone - it’s an audible phone. It’s time for me to meditate and get off of the, you know - to wait for whatever there is. Now, can they get to me physically at that point? Yeah, they can do that too. But they try to keep me into this balance. They said, no use talking about the other side, like coming aboard craft. I remember inside some of those things, but they don’t want me to do that. They want to keep me right here. They won’t tell me about who I am on the other side, either.

KC: No?

GG: No - they said if they did, I’d probably wake up and I wouldn’t accept the job anymore. It’s a joke... [Laughs] But seriously, I got that from about three other people, too. [Laughs]

KC: You wouldn’t accept the job any more.

GG: I would - [Laughing] No, I’d leave.

KC: That’s interesting.

GG: Yeah, it is.

KC: Now, do you have any past life recall? Have they given you that?

GG: No, they won’t let me do that either. That’s part of the game, that’s who I was before.

KC: Okay.

GG: Now, I live with a world famous clairvoyant.

KC: Oh, you do?

GG: Who remembers all six thousand years she’s been here.

KC: Okay, that‘s beautiful.

GG: I was going to invite her over, but we were out partying last night and she says, “I’m just gonna sit back.”

KC: Okay.

GG: So there is no - you know, between the death experience. It goes on. It’s one continuous thing.

KC: Absolutely. I agree with that. I have some past life recalls, as does Bill, but certainly not six thousand.

GG: She remembers back in Atlantis and Lemuria and all those times, the real story behind - she can tell you what happened, who was leading, you know.

KC: Great. That’s fabulous. Well, you know Bob Dean’s wife is the same way. Marcia Shafer, I don’t know if you know who she is.

GG: No.

KC: Anyway, so, does she tell you? Is she allowed to?

GG: No, no, she has been instructed also not to tell me.

KC: Oh really?

GG: We have this thing. I said, look. Cause she does readings for people all over the world.

KC: Sure.

GG: And, I don’t know what she says to anybody, but we have this understanding and she knows what my job is, and so she supports it.

KC: Okay.

GG: I mean, it’s tough to live with clairvoyants, and tough to live with people like me.

KC: Yeah, I bet. [Laughs]

GG: You know, it’s a bad game. [Laughs]

KC: Wow. [Laughs] It depends, it depends how you view it. I mean, from day to day, you know.

GG: She said she wouldn’t have my job. [Laughs] She says, “The guys upstairs shouldn’t have given it to you. We want to have some fun, we don’t..."

KC: I know. Well, this is the problem. Yeah, so it’s a preoccupation, every hour of every day.

GG: Well, I’m 100% committed, because how many people get committed? You’re given a job and then you choose to go away. And, this dimension is so screwed up. I can understand that - I mean, we’ve been - you know, the message to Garcia that’s in our book. You give somebody the job to do it, how many of them really will deliver the message?

KC: Right.

GG: It’s like trying to wake people up.

KC: Yeah.

GG: You know, I’ve lectured all kinds of people. A lot of people will... I get tons of letters from people who wake up finally.

KC: Mm.

GG: But then they recognize the job and they want to go back to sleep. I mean, it’s so... the programming is so incredible.

KC: Yeah, I can understand that. Well, we understand this because we’re also on a mission. So, what... okay, to get back to this. So, you have this exposure and you basically knew you were taking on a job at some point, right?

GG: Yeah.

KC: Can you tell me when that was?

GG: Ah... [pause] ...when exactly the time was probably... when the ETs contacted me again when I was in Vegas, so that would be like twelve years ago.

KC: Mm hm.

GG: And twelve years ago I was asked to build an enemy prison war camp in downtown Las Vegas, just off downtown Las Vegas. And I’m sitting here: who’s the enemy, and what’s this all about?

And then I shared that with my friend Ted Gunderson, who was the former head of the FBI for Southern California. And he came back, and he said they’re building them all over the United States, so that...

I said, wait a minute, the time is getting too short. The Global 2000 agenda is behind schedule, because they were supposed to get the war started in the year 2000 in the Middle East. So, I’m like everybody else. The dates again, we’re talking about dates.

KC: Right.

GG: They didn’t get it done yet, but they still want to have the fait accompli was around 2012. Now everybody knows that comes into sequence because that’s when the Planet X, or Marduk, or whatever you want to call it - is going to come back around, which is going to affect a lot of the physical changes on the planet, also. And, maybe the return of, you know, one of the people.

KC: The Anunnaki.

GG: Sure, the whole game could come in at that point.

KC: Okay, now, are you being told this?

GG: Yeah, I’ve been given this information that that same game - but the information I have, we want to wake up enough people so that there'll be somebody here at that time. But the way things are happening right now, is that there’s too few of people waking up to make any significant difference.

So the last messages I brought with me - I don’t know if you have them or not - from the ETs, is to get together with other people of like minds to support each other in the days ahead, because you don’t know what chaos is. It’s escalating so fast, that we’re running out of time. So, that’s the reason why I’m grabbing planes and...

KC: Ah, yeah.

GG: ...and heading off to other parts of the world to find out where... no place is going to be safe. I do know the agendas that they have and some of their...

BR: I’d like to ask you, George, if you could, just a question of my own, there: how does that make you feel, the idea that you may be behind schedule with your mission to help wake people up? Do you feel depressed, do you feel anxious, do you just get on with the job like a soldier? And when you wake up in the morning, do you feel optimistic, pessimistic, concerned, energized...?

GG: Well, you know, I got a message the other day. I’m going to be lecturing to a big group this next week in Las Vegas. And just to share with the same thing, is to ask you the question, you know, when you come out, I’m going to ask the audiences: “How are you today?” Right? You’re good, right?

KC: Mm hm.

GG: Okay. The next question is, “Why are you today?" Because there may not be a tomorrow. And if you are asking me somewhere within the game that I have right at this minute, we’re running out of time, I’m running out of my sequence of getting the information out.

I have people all around the planet, even in Nepal and Russia, and everything else, forming small groups. And again, from the ETs who are monitoring the entire planet right now, there’s too few of them. And, I get that same reaction back from people who are 100% committed - because they’re so frustrated, they say they’re ready to go back to sleep. I can’t do that. I wake up in the morning - I’m generally very optimistic on it. I’m optimistic because I’m here today.

KC: Right.

GG: When I wake up - and if I’m not here today, then there’s the next question that you look at. How much time, whatever that means, do we have to go? I don’t know, because it doesn’t appear that we have very much time before this chaos.

Now my background is heavy into - besides engineering - is money, and the whole money system is going to collapse on the planet. I mean, I walk around, I mean, you look at me. I can go anywhere on the planet right now. I’ve got five thousand dollars in my pocket. Right now.

BR: Five gold coins.

GG: Five gold coins. And that, you know, I just sit down there and look and say, wait a minute. I can go anywhere in the world with these little pieces right here.

KC: Yeah, and they don’t stop you in an airport...

GG: No.

KC: You don’t declare it, right? I mean, I think that’s why... Well, we invested in silver because you told us to back in January, and it’s been going up ever since.

GG: Well, I’ve told a lot of people, and it’s going to go on up because it’s based on... look at the history of the planet. Even down to Mexico, it’s always the silver coin. Look at the antiquities, and the guys going out and digging up the treasures in the ocean, what is it? It’s right here. You’re looking at it. This is gold and silver.

KC: Uh huh, yeah.

GG: You know, this doesn’t say this is an American Eagle. This doesn’t say Federal Reserve Note on it.

BR: Not I promise to pay.

GG: No, it says right here, it’s exactly what it is. It says, “One Dollar, Silver.” But it’s 999. These are what they call silver rounds. This is the new - this is 100% gold, in a plastic coat. These are the new coins that are put out by our treasury right now. It’s Martha Washington, and that’s a half ounce piece. That’s 500 dollars. Now, most gold, if you get it - I don’t care whether you get it as Maple Leaves or Krugerrands like these are, or whatever. I’m just showing you, I have five thousand dollars in my pocket.

KC: Mm hm.

GG: I could have ten pieces, that’s ten thousand dollars.

KC: Yeah, you ever worry about losing them?

GG: No, and when I go into the thing, I just put it in the change thing. They don’t know what it is. Nothing changes off on, but I can go anywhere in the world.

KC: Right. Okay, well I mean...

GG: [Laughs]

KC: I carry my passport with me everywhere...

GG: You have to.

KC: ...because I don’t know what’s going to go on.

GG: Exactly, but you should have a few gold coins on you no matter where you are.

KC: Alright...

GG: I’m serious.

KC: I’m listening! [Both laugh]

GG: I mean, it’s easy. You can get gold right now. You can’t get silver - right at the minute.

KC: Oh, really.

GG: Well, because...

KC: I have actually have some silver coins from my grandmother, who kept them.

GG: Well, that’s fine. The old junk silver, I suggest everybody get the old junk silver because it’s trading right now at less, today - less than what spot is for silver. But get some of that because people will recognize that. They aren’t going to recognize the zinc and the rest of this other junk that they have but they’ll always recognize that.

For fun, do you know the new dollar piece? Looks like a gold piece, the new one-dollar piece you can buy at the bank. Get some of those, because it doesn’t say “Federal Reserve” on that. It just says, “One Dollar.”

KC: Okay, but is it really gold?

GG: No.

KC: So is that, that’s sort of a...

GG: I’m working on a new gold thing right now, you know, in Ecuador.

KC: So, ho... isn’t that just going to help Ecuador, or is something going to go beyond that.

GG: No, it’s already going beyond that. Because if you trade a piece of gold, it goes anywhere in the world. Look there’s only three currencies in the world right now. There’s only three.

KC: What?

GG: Gold, oil and drugs. I’m not in the drug business.

KC: Okay.

GG: But they keep track of all that with gold. I mean, It’s always based on the barrel, what the oil takes out of the ground and the problem with oil, you are probably aware, we keep on using it up. It’s not replenishing like they’re saying. We’re using it all up and we’re no longer getting that thirty cents a gallon oil out of the ground. It’s eighty cents a gallon to get it out of the ground, right now. That’s the real cost.

And then, usually the governments, by the time they add the taxes, that’s another dollar to a dollar forty a gallon. So you’re $2.20 a gallon for oil coming out of the ground right now. Then you’ve got the distribution, and other stuf that brings the cost up. Within a very short period, you’re going to be four dollars and then like Europe, seven dollars a gallon. It’s coming up.

KC: Okay.

GG: That’s going to kill the little guy even more, right?

KC: Mm hm.

GG: Well, the only thing to offset all this is, since we are playing with the world thing, and the people pay with the game called “stock market,” which has nothing to do with business, has nothing to do with business, it’s just a crap shoot - piece of paper. What’s that have to do with business? The CEOs are already stealing all the money out of the companies, so people have a piece of paper - whole companies collapses like they’re doing right now - you still got the piece of paper, but you can’t do anything with it. But you can always take a piece of gold or piece of silver and trade it, right? [Laughs]

KC: So, so, I mean, we have people saying to u... I mean we get a whole mixed bag of people with information.

GG: Sure.

KC: Okay? Now, your information comes from intel, right?

GG: Yeah.

KC: You’ve got some CIA people?

GG: I have CIA, MI6. I have FBI. I have foreign government. I have one of my friends, the head of all of Latin America, of the CIA. The CIA is Crooks In Action.

KC: [Laughs] I hear you.

GC: They’re all professional liars. They’re all professional liars! I mean, you know...

KC: Okay, but let me ask you something. You know Richard Hoagland says the lie is different every level.

GG: That’s right.

KC: So, let me ask you, do these people have the information correct, or are they also misled?

GG: To give you that idea - now this is on a physical plane. I sat in on a meeting when we were talking about population reduction in the United States.

KC: Right.

GG: And there was a dozen of us, and they were talking about using neutron bombs in the major cities, and other biological weapons and things.

KC: Right.

GG: And, within the group, you know, we’re all buddies, right? Just like, the three of us are buddies right now, at the minute. What if I sent you outside, and we’re talking about getting rid of you? What happened is, what got my attention was, I sat with this meeting and one of my close friends was a member of the Skull and Bones, which is pretty high up. I mean, they are incredible powerful. Anyway, half of the meeting left, and we were talking about getting rid of some of the guys who were just in the meeting.

KC: Really.

GG: It’s just... the question is, who’s going to be left on top? It’s like being in a den of rattlesnakes, black widows, and scorpions. They’re all capable of killing each other. Who’s going to win? Actually, none of them.


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Don Dep recalling his last conversation with Dan Burisch opennly and freely for a change:


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He already seemed to have a shoulder-shrugging attitude as if to say "yeah, I know, but what can we do about it..." when, at one point behind the main complex, he ducked inside an entranceway and, noticeably exhibiting fear, whispered words to the effect "you don't know what John {Dadmiral} can do, what he has done!"



Yea Dan WE KNOW what Mike McConnell Can Do. We All KNOW what he is. An the world you once innocent, got caught up in. The World that has turned you to Glided Bird in a Majestic Cage for the rest of your life.


We all know what he is for they never change life time to life time..


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Brightstar wrote...

"I sure am glad that you posted this indeed. How much more plain could it be that Dan B. was involved in the Gulf War Syndrome biological warfare chemicals! God forbid!!!!!!!!!!! How can peoples live with themselves knowing they helped to make such horrible things like this?????
So I take this as him admitting his hands (Dan B.) are definitely not clean and it makes me wonder how any real human being can live with themselves knowing that they have helped make sick men, women, their children and possible even caused them to die, how can one face or look at themselves in the mirror each morning??? This is just beyond my comprehension and it takes a 'monster' or 'reptilian' mind to be able to do such horrible things to ones fellow human beings. And apparently this MJ12 bunch had their hands in it all also so they are just as dam guilty as I see it and this is what you call murder isn't it????"

But they don't call it murder, they call it 'justifiable experimentation.'
And they justify it all to themselves. Right thinking people on the street would call it CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY and TREASON when their clan signed us up as fodder to dark ET's.

Did I sign up to any treaty? Did you?

NO! I don't think so!

And I don't think you can excuse Dan B. as being forced and deceived into taking his part in it all. It was his conscious choice after all. All after that was of his own making yet he seems to bleat the victim. Drink with monsters, become the monster.

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Ted's mistake? Endorsing Obama over David Rockefeller's Girl Hillary...

Why welcome Mr.Kennedy to your yearly check up.. Oh tisk tisk your electro lights are way off. Here this vitamin and Anti-Oxidants injection will clear that right up! As well as you." Trust me I'm your doctor.

Common form of execution in the Intelligence agencies. Injection of a ultra fast growth cancers.

The David Rockefeller Illuminati Strikes Again!

Good bye Ted Kennedy


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Kennedy tumor aggressive and deadly
Most rapidly growing form of disease with shortest survival


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Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, 76, was diagnosed with an cancerous brain tumor after suffering a seizure. The senator’s doctors at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston said that preliminary results from a biopsy of the brain identified the cause of the seizure as a malignant glioma in the left parietal lobe. Read on for more information:

What is a glioma?
A brain tumor is a mass of abnormal cells growing in the brain. The American Cancer Society estimates that 21,000 Americans a year are diagnosed with brain tumors; about 10,000 are gliobastomas. A glioma is any tumor formed in the glial, or supportive, brain cells, which are different from the better-known neurons.

Glioma is not a specific type of cancer. It is a general category of brain tumor that includes astrocytomas, oligodendrogliomas, ependymomas and gliobastoma multiforme. They are named according to the specific type of brain cell affected. Gliomas can be high-grade, which are more dangerous, or low-grade, which are often slow-growing and require little or no treatment.
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A glioblastoma is the most common brain tumor that affects adults. It is also the most rapidly growing, malignant tumor of the brain with the shortest survival. Death may occur within months.

“It’s the most malignant, the most aggressive, the tumor of the brain associated with the shortest survival,” said Marc Chamberlain, a professor of neurology and director of the Brain Tumor Program at University of Washington, Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center and the Seattle Cancer Care Alliance.

On the scale of one to four used to grade tumors, glioma is the worst, Chamberlain said.

Cancerous tumors of the brain and spinal cord differ from tumors in other parts of the body, Otis W. Brawley, M.D., American Cancer Society's chief medical officer said in a statement. "Unlike tumors that start in the rest of the body, whose most deadly aspect is their ability to spread throughout the body, brain tumors almost never spread to other organs," Brawley said. "The most dangerous aspect of these tumors is that they can interfere with essential, normal functions of the brain."

The incidence rate for a glioma goes up with age and peaks in the age group from age 75 to 84. Although a malignant glioma can occur in people with a history of radiation therapy for childhood cancer, or in those who have certain genetic conditions, that’s not likely the case in Kennedy’s situation, said Chamberlain.

“We don’t know what causes them,” he said. “For all practical purposes, they tend to come out of nowhere.”

What are the symptoms?
Common symptoms of a brain tumor can include headache. Headaches linked to a brain tumor are often more painful in the morning and tend to improve throughout the day. The headaches, which can be accompanied by vomiting in the morning, may get worse with coughing or exercise or a change in position, such as kneeling.

About one-third of patients diagnosed with a brain tumor do not realize they are ill until they have a seizure.

How is a brain tumor diagnosed?
Brain tumors can be diagnosed by a basic neurological exam, including tests for eye movement, vision, hearing and reflexes. Brain scans, either an MRI or CT, can detect diseased brain tissue. Patients may also receive a surgical biopsy, where a small amount of the tumor tissue is removed for testing.

How is it treated?
About 95 percent of patients will opt for surgery to remove as much of the tumor as possible, although because the tumor has usually spread deep into the brain by the time of diagnosis, it is rare for it to be completely removed. Standard treatment involves some oral chemotherapy drugs which can reach into the brain to attack tumor cells. Radiation therapy is also used to treat glioma and can help prolong life. The Food and Drug Administration has also approved surgical implantation of wafers containing chemotherapy directly into the tumor. Radiosurgery is also performed.

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Breaking News:

Indianapolis wins the bid to host the 2012 Super bowl.


Was there any surprise? 2012 NFL , Hosting the Super bowl in the Second Capital of the Scottish Rite Freemasonry in the country (second to Washington DC)


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Quote:
NASA's Course On Talking To Space Aliens
05-20-2008
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... vice=print



The US space agency Nasa is sponsoring a university course on how to talk to aliens.

English students at the University of Wyoming are being encouraged to consider the possibility that humanity might one day make contact with aliens and then not know what to say.


"Interstellar Message Composition", a creative writing class, is believed to be the first of its kind to engage writers in a potential cosmic conversation, say its founders.


"We’ve thought a lot about how we might communicate with other worlds, but we haven’t thought much about what we’d actually say," Prof Jeffrey Lockwood, the course leader, told ABC News.


The course, currently being taken by 11 students, is partly financed by Nasa’s Wyoming Space Grant Consortium, which sponsors educational and research projects in the state that support the agency’s missions.


Among questions tackled in Prof Lockwood’s class is how aliens might communicate, whether they would be able to translate human language, and whether they would be able to see or hear.


One student, Dixie Thoman, created a poem about menstruation with syllables arranged in a mathematically harmonious order, known as the Fibonacci sequence.


Recordings of the Brandenburg Concerto and Johnny B Goode are among those that have been beamed into space over the years in an attempt to provoke an extraterrestrial response.


The course is being advised by Douglas Vakoch, director of interstellar message composition for the Search For Extraterrestrial Intelligence Institute in California.


"It could be tomorrow that we’ll need to be ready to decide if we reply [to aliens]," he said. "It’s really critical to have people start thinking about it and it makes sense to start with writers. These are people who are really trying to express the human condition."


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Post oh no!!!! doom!!!!
george g. is clinically insane. billy m. too. same fruitcake serving. go ahead, have some.

help i'm surrounded by nazis!!!!

vigorous gnashing of teeth and accumulated worrysyndromes.

<yawn>

look we're all going to die! here comes the whizzer. uj was the achitect, and its all dan's fault. oh good lord why even go to work...

perhaps thats the wish of all wishes; to not have to do anything. was the entire ufo movement to date borne out of shere kan laziness? verymuch perhaps. it attracts <marginal> like a golfball attracts greens.

look out. here it comes. here it comes. here comes your ninteenth nervous breakdown.
frothymouthed nonothings have a real probelm with peace
when nothing happens
they have no personality

nothing to accuse.
poor babies
a lifetime
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oh yes

suddenly we believe
sterling too

now there's a credible source


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Ganesh: "...do nothings blames dosomethings for everything. was it ever any different, blob?"

Sidekick Blob: "its worse than judge judy, gan."

Ganesh: "Lets build a fire, blob. cook some canned beans. sit in our deck chairs and enjoy the glow that is called lost vagos."

Dr. So: "Doing anything is miles better that doing nothing but screaming about nothing. So."

Amsterdamperus: "Weed might make a difference. oh thats right they already get high. okay that didn't work. just made them hungray and they still do nothing of value."

Othersiderus: "So do they think they will go to heaven based on blamery. Is that even a
vocation???"

The Devil: "Its good enough for me to admit them and show them what real work is."

Oddsballockskins: "Ohhh, we got some real participants here! Bring them on in."

the do nothings: "Okay we're here where are the awards???"

Ben Dover: "Here's your reward, baybay. I would recommend holding your breath for umm at least the first thirty seconds... it will make it what your people call less painful."


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The End Of America

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjALf12PAWc


You see Ulbeck I go on and on and on warning you to keep watch Because of this I've never shared before..

Back in 1941 Germany occupied Lativa they drove out the Soviet Butchers and becasue of it Latvians viewed the Germans as our liberators. Germany occupied the Baltic's, Lithuanians, Latvia and Estonia. Many Balts joined the German Army at first to fight the Soviets. But late 1942 it became clear that Germany had just replaced the Soviets with their own brand of terror. An by 43 drafted at gun point 100s of thousands for their War Front on the East.

In 1943 Lativa was again invaded by the Soviets and millions fleed with the retreating Germans.


They were offered 'Displaced Persons Refugee Status in Germany in the Red Cross camps. An among the millions were my Grand Dad, Grand Mom, Uncle, Mom, Aunt. They ended up in the refugee Camps for the rest of the war. Eventually my father (a Vet of the Eastern Front and Lativan himself) ended up in the camp as well.

Long story short. "The Refugee" Camp was actually a sub camp of Dachau Concentration Camp. Latvians only after the war learned that in Hitler's Mein Kumph he stated that Latvians, Lithuanians, Estonians were just 'sub-human' to him as were Jews. The Balts would be used for cannon plotter for "The War" and those that remained after the War, would be gassed.

So you see Ulbeck my own family were in "The Camps" as well waiting their turn in the German Gas Chambers. When liberated by American Troops.


So I'm not going to stop POINTING OUT THAT HISTORY IS BEING REPEATED HERE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!!


To borrow a line from the Video Above..


"They did this in Germany! They did this in Germany!"


An I'm noting go to stop screaming it.


Even if it disrupts your Star bucks Sipping and dreamy sleep threw out day.


View it if you dare:

The End Of America

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjALf12PAWc




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How many here realize that the ANC (African National Congress - the political party of Nelson Mandela) is still classified as a terrorist organization by the United States?

About a week ago a motion was presented in congress to finally get it off of the "terrorists" organizations list..... I don't expect any changes any time soon





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