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Yep Monday morning gas was on average at the stations around town at $3,75 - 3.78 a gallon as of this morning prices are spiking at $4.01- 4.02 a gallon for regular unleaded.

I know you guys in NZ and such as Britian have always paid alot more then us Yanks. But for the average American this total culture shock. Just last year at this time $1.75 - 1.78 a gallon was the average around here. And its starting to take a toll on the average middle class American families.

When interviewed on the news. Local folks asked about the spike. Most of them are starting to use four letter words and their comments *Bleeped* out. lol


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Spooky mate,spooky.You say the price of petrol there is $4 gal??Here,in New Zealand,we're paying $1.89c PER LITRE!So you guys have got it cheaper than us by a bit.Your still paying under a $1 per litre.


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If the Soviets had the ablity to create a human-ape hybrid in 1927. It is not far fetched that our military industrial complex could produce a supposed "Gray" at S-4/Area 51. A hybrid designed for one purpose to with stand the G-Forces of man made advanced craft.


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Legend has it that the institute, which opened in 1927, was born of a secret Soviet plan to create a man-ape hybrid that would become a Soviet superman and propel the Soviet Union ahead of the West. The Soviet elite, goes the apocryphal tale that has appeared widely in Russian media, wanted to create a prototype worker that would be inhumanly strong and mentally dulled, to carry out the gruelling work of industrialising the vast expanses of newly Sovietised territory.


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Stalin's space monkeys

It looks like a neglected zoo. But the Institute of Experimental Pathology and Therapy has its own macabre chapter in the history of the Soviet Union. Shaun Walker reports from Sukhumi, Abkhazia

Tuesday, 15 April 2008


From the old railway station, now a hollow shell covered in weeds, a long concrete stairway, sheltered by sub-tropical foliage, winds from the centre of Sukhumi up to a collection of buildings, many pocked with bullet holes or crushed by bombs.


The first thing that registers is the putrid smell of animal faeces, then from inside one building comes a primeval squawking that sounds like a child being tortured. Cage after cage of distraught-looking monkeys come into view, nearly 300 in all, gnawing at mandarins and scampering around their enclosures.

This is what remains of the Institute of Experimental Pathology and Therapy, the first primate testing centre in the world, and possibly the site of a macabre Stalinist experiment to breed a human-ape hybrid. Set amid palm trees and lush greenery on a hill just outside the centre of Sukhumi, it was once the envy of the West. Its behavioural and medical experiments set it at the forefront of groundbreaking medical discoveries, and trained monkeys for space travel.

But the years of Mikhail Gorbachev's perestroika, then the Georgian-Abkhaz war, took a heavy toll on the centre. Most of its scientists left to set up a new centre in Russia, along with most of the monkeys that were not killed. What is left today is a disturbing shadow of the institute's former glory.

Legend has it that the institute, which opened in 1927, was born of a secret Soviet plan to create a man-ape hybrid that would become a Soviet superman and propel the Soviet Union ahead of the West. The Soviet elite, goes the apocryphal tale that has appeared widely in Russian media, wanted to create a prototype worker that would be inhumanly strong and mentally dulled, to carry out the gruelling work of industrialising the vast expanses of newly Sovietised territory.

Scientists at the institute today admit that these experiments did go on at the institute, though they deny it was part of any overarching plan for the creation of a new race. The tests were performed by Ilya Ivanov, an eminent Russian biologist who had also collaborated with the Pasteur Institute in Paris. About the turn of the century he had perfected the technique of artificially inseminating mares, and had also produced cross-breeds between various different species. Then, Europe was alive with ideas of eugenics, and the Soviets were out to prove once and for all that Darwinism had superseded religion.

"Professor Ivanov started these experiments in Africa and continued them here in Sukhumi," says Vladimir Barkaya, who started at the institute in 1961 and is now scientific director. "He took sperm from human males and injected it into female chimpanzees, although nothing came of it." Professor Barkaya denies monkey sperm was used on human females, although letters were apparently received by the institution by people of both sexes offering to participate in the experiments.

In time, the institute evolved from science fiction to evidence-based practice. Work at the institute was instrumental in the creation of a Soviet polio vaccine, and its scientists worked on all the major diseases of the 20th century.

One man's name is synonymous with the centre. Boris Lapin was born in 1921 and after a heroic turn in the Second World War, started work at the Sukhumi monkey colony in 1949. In 1959 he was appointed director of the institute, and ran it up until 1992, when during the Abkhaz-Georgian war he fled along with the majority of employees and monkeys across the border to Russia. Despite being in his late eighties, he still runs the institute set up at Adler in Russia.

"My biggest achievement over all this time is that we were able to build the institute up from scratch again," he says, from his Adler office, plastered with photographs of famous visitors to the Sukhumi institute over the years, from Nikita Khrushchev to Ho Chi Minh.

In the 1950s, as Professor Lapin was taking over, word got out to the rest of the world about the uses to which monkeys were being put at Sukhumi. "At the time of Sputnik, there was a huge amount of curiosity in the West about what else the Soviets might have up their sleeves in the fields of science and technology," says Douglas Bowden, an American primatologist who has co-operated with the Sukhumi, then Adler centres since 1962. An expert commission headed by President Dwight Eisenhower's personal doctor went to the Soviet Union in 1957 and visited Sukhumi. "They were so impressed with what they found there that when they came back to the US they recommended to Eisenhower that a similar institute should be set up in the US." In the end, seven centres were set up in the US.

As time went on, the centre also became closely involved with the Soviet space programme, training six monkeys to send into space. "We had to make sure they were intelligent monkeys to perform all their duties in space," Professor Lapin says. "Not every monkey was capable of that sort of thing." After the monkeys blasted off, the centre's employees would watch them on television at Sukhumi.

Then came the collapse of the Soviet Union, which was a disaster for scientists across the vast empire. They went from the pride of the country to being neglected and unfunded. "They were terrible times," says Professor Barkaya. "Many monkeys died, and many people too. We had nothing to feed the monkeys with, and there was no electricity or heating. Many of them simply froze to death."

Violeta Agrba, who was the acting director of the institute during the war, while Professor Lapin was arranging the transfer to Adler, says: "I remember walking around the cages in the winter of 1992, during the war, and seeing a baboon shivering in his cage. It was so sad. But even though we couldn't do any medical work, and there was a war on, we all came to work every day." Professor Agrba once found an unexploded shell on the conference table in her office. There was a huge hole in the ceiling.

The centre also had 1,000 monkeys that lived freely in a special zone in the mountains in the south of Abkhazia, where they were monitored and their behaviour studied. When the war started, many died in the crossfire; some were stolen by troops and used as mascots. "Some are still alive," Professor Agrba says. "But after everything that happened in the war, they are so scared of people they don't approach anyone. We need to do a helicopter survey and find the remaining ones, but there's no money for that."

Today, the centre at Sukhumi, where a few staff who refused to leave during the war have bravely remained and tried to resurrect their scientific work, is struggling to get back on its feet. A German scientist who worked with the institute before the war and took pity on their situation ships them medicines and equipment each year. But most of the best employees went to Alder, and the monkeys seem to have nothing to eat except mandarins.

"The level we had before is very difficult to attain now," Professor Barkaya says. "But while we used to write to people asking to co-operate with them, now they're again coming to us. We had an interesting proposition from St Petersburg, from a company that has produced medicine to reduce blindness in old people. They've tested it on dogs and horses and now they want to test it on monkeys."

The Adler centre in much better shape, with all the most modern equipment and is still at the forefront of medicine, working on stem-cell research and birdflu vaccines, and testing the effects of radiation on monkeys in preparation for a manned flight to Mars. "We've discovered that their immune systems are severely weakened by the radiation given off by solar flares," says Professor Agrba. "Now we need to see how serious this is and how long it lasts."

But even at Adler, the financial situation isn't easy. "One girl used to work here as a lab assistant and got paid 3,000 roubles (£65) a month," Professor Agrba says. "She left to work selling blankets in the market and now she makes 15,000 roubles (£325)."

Obtaining new monkeys is almost impossible now, with most countries banning their export. The days when Professor Lapin and colleagues would simply fly to Nigeria and spend weeks negotiating with tribes for the purchase of monkeys, as happened in the 1960s, are long gone. The Adler institute has a breeding programme, which ensures that its population of 3,700 monkeys is refreshed each year. But for Sukhumi, with just 286 monkeys, inbreeding is a serious problem.

The staff at both centres is split between dignified octogenarians with decades of scientific experience, and budding young scientists. The middle ground is missing. "It's a problem across the former Soviet Union," Professor Barkaya says. "The generation of scientists who came of age during perestroika went into business. Now there is again an interest in science, and it's left to us to pass on our knowledge as best we can to the younger generation to ensure the good work continues."

Ethical concerns that would undoubtedly surround such ventures in Europe are absent both in Abkhazia and in Russia. Neither institute has any security; the thought of animal rights protesters attacking does not even occur to the scientists.

"Of course, we're aware of the ethical difficulties," says Professor Lapin. "But in some cases monkeys are the only animals we can use. Thalidomide was tested on mice and other animals but not on monkeys, and you remember what happened there."

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Real Science Marches On As Danny keeps sparking his crystals with a 9 volt battery.. lol


THIS IS TRULY AMAZING!!! It will help millions of people that have lost a finger or limb due to industrial accidents or other.

See the Pics at the link!

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Scientists are claiming an amazing breakthrough - regrowing a man's severed finger with the aid of an experimental powder.

Four weeks after Lee Spievack sliced almost half an inch off the top of one of his fingers, he said it had grown back to its original length.


Four months later it looked like any other finger, complete with "great feeling", a fingernail and fingerprint.

The secret to the astonishing regrowth is said to be the powder described by Mr Spievack, a Cincinnati model shop salesman, as "pixie dust".

More properly known as extra-cellular matrix, it is bursting with collagen, the protein that gives skin its strength and elasticity, and is made from dried pig's bladder.

It was developed to regenerate damaged ligaments in horses. "The second time I put it on I could already see growth," said Mr Spievack, 69.

"Each day it was up further. Finally it closed up and was a finger. It took about four weeks before it was sealed."


Mr Spievack damaged his finger in the propeller of a model plane three years ago. He turned down a skin graft in favour of the "pixie dust" recommended by his brother, a former surgeon and the founder of the firm that makes the powder.


While it is not entirely clear how the powder works, its developers believe it kick-starts the body's natural healing process by sending out signals that mobilise the body's own cells into repairing the damaged tissue.


Dr Stephen Badylak, of the McGowan Institute for Regenerative Medicine at the University of Pittsburgh, told the BBC: "There are all sorts of signals in the body.


"We have got signals that are good for forming scar tissue and others that are good for regenerating tissues.


"One way to think about these matrices is that we've taken out many of the stimuli for scar tissue formation and left those signals which were always there for constructive remodelling."

In other words, the powder directs tissues to grow afresh rather than form scars.


"We're not smart enough to figure out how to regrow a finger," said Dr Badylak.

"Maybe what we can do is bring all of the pieces of the puzzle to the right place and then let Mother Nature take its course. There's a lot more that we don't know than we do know."

But Professor Stephen Kaye, a consultant plastic and hand surgeon at Leeds University, poured cold water on Dr Badylak's claims.

Asked if he was surprised that Mr Spievack's finger "grew back" he said: "Not in the slightest."

Prof Kaye added: "The pictures I've seen on the web show a wound I would have expected to heal and regenerate in any case.

"The end of the finger is extremely good at regeneration. The pictures we've seen on the web show no evidence of loss of bone, nerve or tendon material, but regeneration and repair of skin - which is exactly what the fingertip does."

He added that the photographs appeared to portray a "very commonplace transverse amputation of the very end of the fingertip" and not someone who had lost the last phalanx of his finger, as Dr Badylak claimed.

Prof Kaye said extra-cellular matrix was an acknowldged way of promoting wound healing, but pointed out that there was a "big difference" between healing and regeneration.

"I don't want people to have false hopes," he told the Radio 4's The World Tonight news programme.
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The Power Elite have MURDERED Again..

Think of her profession what you will Deborah Jeane Palfrey stated publically a month ago on Alex Jones show that they would kill her over what she knew. Over the names in her "black book." She stated that they were some of the TOP players in congress and sentate and a few even from the white House. Palfrey asked people not to forget her or her story and that she FULLY believed that she would be KILLED over what she knew.

The Power Elite strike again.

Remember this folks. This is how REAL America and it government works. corruption, depravity and murder.

Deborah Palfrey was "A Madme" but whose truly the "Sinner" her and her girls OR the MURDERING Bastards that call themselves our leaders??? That get on our television screens and talk about "Family Values and wholesome Christian Values" mean while call an escort in the middle of the night.


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Thursday, May 1, 2008

TARPON SPRINGS, Fla. - The "D.C. Madam" hanged herself Thursday, just weeks after she was convicted of running a call-girl ring that catered to Washington's power elite in a case that had some scared she would name names.

The body of Deborah Jeane Palfrey was found in a shed near her mother's home about 20 miles northwest of Tampa. Police said the 52-year-old left at least two suicide notes and other writings to her family in a notebook, but they did not disclose their contents. The mother found Palfrey, who had apparently hanged herself with nylon rope from the shed's ceiling.

Officers were outside the mother's white and pink home in the community of mostly retirees.

Blanche Palfrey had no sign that her daughter was suicidal, and there was no immediate indication that alcohol or drugs were involved, police Capt. Jeffrey Young said.

A man who answered a phone listed for Palfrey's mother declined to comment.

"This is a tragic news and my heart goes out to her mother," said attorney Preston Burton, who represented Deborah Jeane Palfrey in her trial.

A federal jury convicted Palfrey on April 15 of running a prostitution service that catered to members of Washington's political elite, including Sen. David Vitter, a Louisiana Republican. She was convicted of money laundering, using the mail for illegal purposes and racketeering.

Palfrey had denied her escort service engaged in prostitution, saying that if any of the women engaged in sex acts for money, they did so without her knowledge.

The trial concluded without revealing many new details about the service or its clients. Vitter was among possible witnesses but did not take the stand.

Channing Phillips, the spokesman for the U.S. attorney's office in the District of Columbia, said that under sentencing guidelines, Palfrey faced about five or six years in prison. She was free pending her sentencing July 24.

"I am sure as heck am not going to be going to federal prison for one day, let alone, you know, four to eight years here, because I'm shy about bringing in the deputy secretary of whatever," Palfrey told ABC last year when she released phone records that revealed some of her clients. "Not for a second. I'll bring every last one of them in if necessary."

Prosecutors said Palfrey operated the prostitution service for 13 years.

Vitter, a first-term senator who is married and has four children, has acknowledged being involved with Palfrey's escort service and has apologized for what he called a "very serious sin." But he avoided commenting further.

Besides Vitter, the trial also concluded without the testimony of military strategist Harlan Ullman or Randall Tobias, a former senior State Department official. Both men had been named among possible witnesses.

One of the escort service employees was former University of Maryland, Baltimore County, professor Brandy Britton, who was arrested on prostitution charges in 2006. She committed suicide in January before she was scheduled to go to trial.

Palfrey said last year that she, too, was humiliated by her prostitution charges, but said: "I guess I'm made of something that Brandy Britton wasn't made of."

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Associated Press writers Matt Apuzzo in Washington and Matthew Barakat in McLean, Va., contributed to this report.


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That was the first "feeling" I had when I heard that on the news that she supposedly committed suicide. It was just not believeable and my first thoughts were, well another murder because the PTB didn't want her talking and telling names in her book, and then declare it a 'suicide'. This seems to be the usual trend when the PTB take someone out.

Yes, they are the real criminals indeed.

Listening to all of this bull hockey over Billery gets to be rather nausiating at times to me because I just know of too much about her and slick willie. What a disgrace that this country has nothing better to offer than criminals and sleezy types to run for public offices such as we have now.

But, then again, this has been the trend here it seems for many years now and such groups as this MJ12 bunch and all of these black ops groups and projects and then they use the excuses of National Security to keep the public from finding out the truths of things. What a crock indeed. It gets very disheartening indeed at times and makes me wish I could stop the world and get off of it somehow.


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Owl/Brian

"My responsibility in the former Majestic was a pilot - I was an "Echelon Raven" - an armed courier for the Maji. I'm rated in fixed wing and choppers."

If we are to believe this. Then Owl was nothing more then a high priced courier delivery boy!

His avaion rating could have come from his duty in Army. Owl has stated several times he was in Gulf War I and a Vet.

Question when does being a Delievry Boy and greese monkey qualifiy one for HIGH Top Secret Security detail?????

Lets take for example some Private Security Firms such as the infamous Wacknut (which guards Area 51) or Blackwater. Their quaifications requirements for security duty are either a history of Special Forces, Green Beret, Navy Seal before you can wear their uniforms and be assigned to Security Details for their clients. In fact in the case of Wacknut most of their "Security" teams come out of the Military Intelligence and Isreali Intelligence communitties.

So here we have Owl supposedly gurading "Danny the Wonder Boy" and all his qualifications for security detail are Delievery Boy and Greese Monkey?!?! BLINK BLINK


"I have known Dan since Desert Storm and we are good friends. We fought together and both lost a friend together. I've got his back! Friendships, really brothers and sisters, forged in wartime never end. Mongrel, we call him Mongraal here, is the third amigo from the Storm. Just so you'll know."


What prey tell were you actually fighting crotch rot, lice? Desert Flies??

According to Dan Burisch story about Gulf War I was that he was assigned by the powers to be to counter act the active biological agent in the Gulf War Syndrome. He was signed to Knight 1 and another Knight 2 to fly out to test sight.

While in the Gulf Dan Crain was assigned a COVER rank in the Navy and did not nor was he rated for combat! It is not outside the realm of logic to invision a special copter mission in which the Army polit was delievering (was that you Owl?) a special ranking Dan Crain NAVY out to fire base. According to Dan Crain - Burisch that flight came under fire from the Iraqi's. In which Dan best buddy (possibly Knight 2) had his head blown off by gun fire. splattering Danny with said gray matter. Dan stated the flight was shot down crash landed (this by the way can be checked by a simple review of Copter shot down during the Gulf War I there were only as dozen!)

What followed was a Breif gun fight in which Dan Burisch FOR THE FIRST time supposedly discharged his side arm (not a rifle) in order to defend himself and those surivors. Danny was then picked up and continued on his way as Microbiologist duty Special Assignement for Majestic.

So I ask you Owl what the HELL are you talking about? You speak of Dan Crain as being some type of Vet that was in numerous missions with you while in combat which does square with the Statements made by Dan Crain!

If we look at it another way then we may know who was on that flight.

Greese Monkey Pilot: Owl Brian
Gunner: Mongrel Steve
Knight 1 - Dan Crain Special Assignment
Knight 2 - Dan Crains best friend and fellow Opertive KIA - Killed In Action.

A single mission does not a brother in arms make!


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Today at 4:57am, Caspa wrote:
Today at 4:41am, antztudio wrote:Hey!!........Wait a minute....how did you know i'm a musician?




A.H.: WE KNOW EVERYTHING!

No! Just kidding! Owl told Marci. It's Owl who knows everything! Just kidding again!

Owl googled your name to see what it meant. He found your myspace page and any musician is immediately tagged for Marci to see. Marci is a professional cellist and vocalist. Marci and Dan are getting ready to start music and video DVD's for healing/relaxation purposes. When they found out that you could "bang on the drum all day" both Dan and Marci sat down before Dan left for L.A. and they listened to some of your music. Both thought it was "hot!"

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OK time for old Owl to chime! It has to be said.

Atztudio, Caspa is mostly correct. That's how I first found out about you. My responsibility in the former Majestic was a pilot - I was an "Echelon Raven" - an armed courier for the Maji. I'm rated in fixed wing and choppers. I also do some internet security for Dan and Marci. Your avatar attracted my attention. I checked it out like Caspa said, then pulled your registration file at the Eagles Forum to tell them about you. When I pulled it, I ran it through a system we nicknamed BESS. BESS told me that you are a forum member somewhere. I cross checked your membership against the individual data I had from my first search and it showed the same person. I reported that to Marci and Dan too.

Dan and Marci have been mercilessly attacked by negative people, not questioning people but "NEGATIVE PEOPLE", for some time. Before some jump and protest who caused what and try to start a "he said she said": I DON'T CARE! I doubt you give a rat's tail about it either.

I have known Dan since Desert Storm and we are good friends. We fought together and both lost a friend together. I've got his back! Friendships, really brothers and sisters, forged in wartime never end. Mongrel, we call him Mongraal here, is the third amigo from the Storm. Just so you'll know.

I saw some of your posts and you seem like an even handed square cat to me. Just because someone is registered at another place it doesn't mean they can't hang out here! If you are told otherwise, you are being lied to!

I told Dan and Marci about your membership and Dan asked me a single question: "He looks like an honest truthseeker?" I said "yes." He replied "Cool! He's fine by me, then!" That's the kind of person he is: straight up. When someone asks him a question, and doesn't bullsh with an agenda other than finding out the truth, he's the nicest guy in the world to get along with. Those who have crossed him didn't hear this song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrz_qowI ... re=related


Dan's and Marci's rules here are easy for most people: treat everyone polite, seek the truth, and have fun! A small group have been banned from here because of deception and attempts to destroy the reputations of these two great people. That's the truth. False claim after false claim have been made against them, but always without evidence, just false claims, sir.

If you have questions, and Dan and Marci never fear answering honest questions with honest answers, go for it.

Caspa and Mongraal answer most of the questions put from the public. It's not that Dan and Marci don't want to, it's that their "plates" as they write it are over full. If a question is a sensitive one, it is still referred to them, and they will respond. If you have questions for Dan and/or Marci, very serious ones, it is still possible to speak with them directly, on the telephone or even in person! Let us know what we can do to help your quest for the truth. Welcome to the Eagles Forum, and ROCK ON!

Brian (Owl)


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Here we have it. Mongraal / Steve confirms his "Gunner" status in a post directly following Brian's above.

So we know.

Brian was Pilot.
Covering his back as
Mongraal/Steve as his gunner.

Its not unusal for Copter Pilot and their Gunners forming deep life long friendships even after combat. Just ask the Vietnam Era Vets about it.

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Yet the question remains. Being a simple Pilot and Gunner DOES NOT qaulify one for security/bodyguard for TOP of TOP of the Elite clients.


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Very cool youtube video posted by a Vietnam Era Hewy Copter pilot. Vietnam made the Copter Pilots and Gunners heros of sorts. They literally risked their own lives flying behind enemy lines to drop off and pick up soilders.

Our Vietnam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ezqF_r326I


I dedicate this post to Doctor Hal H. Vietnam era Copter pilot, later field medic today one of the Top Five Emergency Room Trama Specialists in the Country.

Thank you Hal for giving five very obscure umm illinesses when I had to fill out paperwork for Selective Service in 1985 and getting me F-4 status! :)


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Better yet, you can now download it and listen at your leisure - or not - at the top of this page:

http://www.paranormalradionetwork.org/



I admit it. I admit it. I do spend my leisure time listening to that king of stuff.
:oops: :roll:

Great job on that interview anyway.

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Here we have it. Mongraal / Steve confirms his "Gunner" status in a post directly following Brian's above.


Well that explain some things about that crazy Mongraal.


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It would explain it. Sit on edge for hours on the door jamb of an open copter door getting whipped with 100 mph winds and and endless bugs in the teeth as you have to hold on to your guns ready for any incoming fire. Yep it would make anyone a bit insane.

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Dondep wrote:

Better yet, you can now download it and listen at your leisure - or not - at the top of this page:

http://www.paranormalradionetwork.org/



I admit it. I admit it. I do spend my leisure time listening to that king of stuff.
:oops: :roll:

Great job on that interview anyway.

Shady Groves wrote:
Here we have it. Mongraal / Steve confirms his "Gunner" status in a post directly following Brian's above.


Well that explain some things about that crazy Mongraal.


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The Greatest Anti-War and Peace Song EVER written! :) and True Story.

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By Arlo Guthrie

This song is called Alice's Restaurant, and it's about Alice, and the
restaurant, but Alice's Restaurant is not the name of the restaurant,
that's just the name of the song, and that's why I called the song Alice's
Restaurant.

You can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant
You can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant
Walk right in it's around the back
Just a half a mile from the railroad track
You can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant

Now it all started two Thanksgivings ago, was on - two years ago on
Thanksgiving, when my friend and I went up to visit Alice at the
restaurant, but Alice doesn't live in the restaurant, she lives in the
church nearby the restaurant, in the bell-tower, with her husband Ray and
Fasha the dog. And livin' in the bell tower like that, they got a lot of
room downstairs where the pews used to be in. Havin' all that room,
seein' as how they took out all the pews, they decided that they didn't
have to take out their garbage for a long time.

We got up there, we found all the garbage in there, and we decided it'd be
a friendly gesture for us to take the garbage down to the city dump. So
we took the half a ton of garbage, put it in the back of a red VW
microbus, took shovels and rakes and implements of destruction and headed
on toward the city dump.

Well we got there and there was a big sign and a chain across across the
dump saying, "Closed on Thanksgiving." And we had never heard of a dump
closed on Thanksgiving before, and with tears in our eyes we drove off
into the sunset looking for another place to put the garbage.

We didn't find one. Until we came to a side road, and off the side of the
side road there was another fifteen foot cliff and at the bottom of the
cliff there was another pile of garbage. And we decided that one big pile
is better than two little piles, and rather than bring that one up we
decided to throw our's down.

That's what we did, and drove back to the church, had a thanksgiving
dinner that couldn't be beat, went to sleep and didn't get up until the
next morning, when we got a phone call from officer Obie. He said, "Kid,
we found your name on an envelope at the bottom of a half a ton of
garbage, and just wanted to know if you had any information about it." And
I said, "Yes, sir, Officer Obie, I cannot tell a lie, I put that envelope
under that garbage."

After speaking to Obie for about fourty-five minutes on the telephone we
finally arrived at the truth of the matter and said that we had to go down
and pick up the garbage, and also had to go down and speak to him at the
police officer's station. So we got in the red VW microbus with the
shovels and rakes and implements of destruction and headed on toward the
police officer's station.

Now friends, there was only one or two things that Obie coulda done at
the police station, and the first was he could have given us a medal for
being so brave and honest on the telephone, which wasn't very likely, and
we didn't expect it, and the other thing was he could have bawled us out
and told us never to be see driving garbage around the vicinity again,
which is what we expected, but when we got to the police officer's station
there was a third possibility that we hadn't even counted upon, and we was
both immediately arrested. Handcuffed. And I said "Obie, I don't think I
can pick up the garbage with these handcuffs on." He said, "Shut up, kid.
Get in the back of the patrol car."

And that's what we did, sat in the back of the patrol car and drove to the
quote Scene of the Crime unquote. I want tell you about the town of
Stockbridge, Massachusets, where this happened here, they got three stop
signs, two police officers, and one police car, but when we got to the
Scene of the Crime there was five police officers and three police cars,
being the biggest crime of the last fifty years, and everybody wanted to
get in the newspaper story about it. And they was using up all kinds of
cop equipment that they had hanging around the police officer's station.
They was taking plaster tire tracks, foot prints, dog smelling prints, and
they took twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy photographs with circles
and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each
one was to be used as evidence against us. Took pictures of the approach,
the getaway, the northwest corner the southwest corner and that's not to
mention the aerial photography.

After the ordeal, we went back to the jail. Obie said he was going to put
us in the cell. Said, "Kid, I'm going to put you in the cell, I want your
wallet and your belt." And I said, "Obie, I can understand you wanting my
wallet so I don't have any money to spend in the cell, but what do you
want my belt for?" And he said, "Kid, we don't want any hangings." I
said, "Obie, did you think I was going to hang myself for littering?"
Obie said he was making sure, and friends Obie was, cause he took out the
toilet seat so I couldn't hit myself over the head and drown, and he took
out the toilet paper so I couldn't bend the bars roll out the - roll the
toilet paper out the window, slide down the roll and have an escape. Obie
was making sure, and it was about four or five hours later that Alice
(remember Alice? It's a song about Alice), Alice came by and with a few
nasty words to Obie on the side, bailed us out of jail, and we went back
to the church, had a another thanksgiving dinner that couldn't be beat,
and didn't get up until the next morning, when we all had to go to court.

We walked in, sat down, Obie came in with the twenty seven eight-by-ten
colour glossy pictures with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back
of each one, sat down. Man came in said, "All rise." We all stood up,
and Obie stood up with the twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy
pictures, and the judge walked in sat down with a seeing eye dog, and he
sat down, we sat down. Obie looked at the seeing eye dog, and then at the
twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy pictures with circles and arrows
and a paragraph on the back of each one, and looked at the seeing eye dog.
And then at twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy pictures with circles
and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one and began to cry,
'cause Obie came to the realization that it was a typical case of American
blind justice, and there wasn't nothing he could do about it, and the
judge wasn't going to look at the twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy
pictures with the circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each
one explaining what each one was to be used as evidence against us. And
we was fined $50 and had to pick up the garbage in the snow, but thats not
what I came to tell you about.

Came to talk about the draft.

They got a building down New York City, it's called Whitehall Street,
where you walk in, you get injected, inspected, detected, infected,
neglected and selected. I went down to get my physical examination one
day, and I walked in, I sat down, got good and drunk the night before, so
I looked and felt my best when I went in that morning. `Cause I wanted to
look like the all-American kid from New York City, man I wanted, I wanted
to feel like the all-, I wanted to be the all American kid from New York,
and I walked in, sat down, I was hung down, brung down, hung up, and all
kinds o' mean nasty ugly things. And I waked in and sat down and they gave
me a piece of paper, said, "Kid, see the phsychiatrist, room 604."

And I went up there, I said, "Shrink, I want to kill. I mean, I wanna, I
wanna kill. Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and
guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill, Kill,
KILL, KILL." And I started jumpin up and down yelling, "KILL, KILL," and
he started jumpin up and down with me and we was both jumping up and down
yelling, "KILL, KILL." And the sargent came over, pinned a medal on me,
sent me down the hall, said, "You're our boy."

Didn't feel too good about it.

Proceeded on down the hall gettin more injections, inspections,
detections, neglections and all kinds of stuff that they was doin' to me
at the thing there, and I was there for two hours, three hours, four
hours, I was there for a long time going through all kinds of mean nasty
ugly things and I was just having a tough time there, and they was
inspecting, injecting every single part of me, and they was leaving no
part untouched. Proceeded through, and when I finally came to the see the
last man, I walked in, walked in sat down after a whole big thing there,
and I walked up and said, "What do you want?" He said, "Kid, we only got
one question. Have you ever been arrested?"

And I proceeded to tell him the story of the Alice's Restaurant Massacre,
with full orchestration and five part harmony and stuff like that and all
the phenome... - and he stopped me right there and said, "Kid, did you ever
go to court?"

And I proceeded to tell him the story of the twenty seven eight-by-ten
colour glossy pictures with the circles and arrows and the paragraph on
the back of each one, and he stopped me right there and said, "Kid, I want
you to go and sit down on that bench that says Group W .... NOW kid!!"

And I, I walked over to the, to the bench there, and there is, Group W's
where they put you if you may not be moral enough to join the army after
committing your special crime, and there was all kinds of mean nasty ugly
looking people on the bench there. Mother rapers. Father stabbers. Father
rapers! Father rapers sitting right there on the bench next to me! And
they was mean and nasty and ugly and horrible crime-type guys sitting on the
bench next to me. And the meanest, ugliest, nastiest one, the meanest
father raper of them all, was coming over to me and he was mean 'n' ugly
'n' nasty 'n' horrible and all kind of things and he sat down next to me
and said, "Kid, whad'ya get?" I said, "I didn't get nothing, I had to pay
$50 and pick up the garbage." He said, "What were you arrested for, kid?"
And I said, "Littering." And they all moved away from me on the bench
there, and the hairy eyeball and all kinds of mean nasty things, till I
said, "And creating a nuisance." And they all came back, shook my hand,
and we had a great time on the bench, talkin about crime, mother stabbing,
father raping, all kinds of groovy things that we was talking about on the
bench. And everything was fine, we was smoking cigarettes and all kinds of
things, until the Sargeant came over, had some paper in his hand, held it
up and said.

"Kids, this-piece-of-paper's-got-47-words-37-sentences-58-words-we-wanna-
know-details-of-the-crime-time-of-the-crime-and-any-other-kind-of-thing-
you-gotta-say-pertaining-to-and-about-the-crime-I-want-to-know-arresting-
officer's-name-and-any-other-kind-of-thing-you-gotta-say", and talked for
forty-five minutes and nobody understood a word that he said, but we had
fun filling out the forms and playing with the pencils on the bench there,
and I filled out the massacre with the four part harmony, and wrote it
down there, just like it was, and everything was fine and I put down the
pencil, and I turned over the piece of paper, and there, there on the
other side, in the middle of the other side, away from everything else on
the other side, in parentheses, capital letters, quotated, read the
following words:

("KID, HAVE YOU REHABILITATED YOURSELF?")

I went over to the sargent, said, "Sargeant, you got a lot a damn gall to
ask me if I've rehabilitated myself, I mean, I mean, I mean that just, I'm
sittin' here on the bench, I mean I'm sittin here on the Group W bench
'cause you want to know if I'm moral enough join the army, burn women,
kids, houses and villages after bein' a litterbug." He looked at me and
said, "Kid, we don't like your kind, and we're gonna send you fingerprints
off to Washington."

And friends, somewhere in Washington enshrined in some little folder, is a
study in black and white of my fingerprints. And the only reason I'm
singing you this song now is cause you may know somebody in a similar
situation, or you may be in a similar situation, and if your in a
situation like that there's only one thing you can do and that's walk into
the shrink wherever you are ,just walk in say "Shrink, You can get
anything you want, at Alice's restaurant.". And walk out. You know, if
one person, just one person does it they may think he's really sick and
they won't take him. And if two people, two people do it, in harmony,
they may think they're both faggots and they won't take either of them.
And three people do it, three, can you imagine, three people walking in
singin a bar of Alice's Restaurant and walking out. They may think it's an
organization. And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day,I said
fifty people a day walking in singin a bar of Alice's Restaurant and
walking out. And friends they may thinks it's a movement.

And that's what it is , the Alice's Restaurant Anti-Massacre Movement, and
all you got to do to join is sing it the next time it come's around on the
guitar.

With feeling. So we'll wait for it to come around on the guitar, here and
sing it when it does. Here it comes.

You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant
You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant
Walk right in it's around the back
Just a half a mile from the railroad track
You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant

That was horrible. If you want to end war and stuff you got to sing loud.
I've been singing this song now for twenty five minutes. I could sing it
for another twenty five minutes. I'm not proud... or tired.

So we'll wait till it comes around again, and this time with four part
harmony and feeling.

We're just waitin' for it to come around is what we're doing.

All right now.

You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant
Excepting Alice
You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant
Walk right in it's around the back
Just a half a mile from the railroad track
You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant

Da da da da da da da dum
At Alice's Restaurant

©1966,1967 (Renewed) by Appleseed Music Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Ario Guthrie and family today standing outside the door of Alice's Resturant (today tourist site and Bed and Breakfest Inn)

http://ww1.prweb.com/prfiles/2006/10/25 ... uthrie.jpg

Off of Ario's website:

Tribute Page to William J Obanhein "Officer Obie!" :)

http://www.arlo.net/obie.shtml


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Yeah exactly what I thought lol.

Anyway, about the oil situation, this article of Professor Engdhal
is very insighful.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... a&aid=6880

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dan wrote:
We're, the former Majestic folks, an unusual "horde" ;D ...and we make mistakes...but at least we're honest.


Uncle John here: There goes dan again. With the underline word "we're" honest, he is saying two things.

Remember at Rachel one of the first recorded sentences out of dan's mouth was that he never lies. This has been shown to be false, over and over again.

The other is the implied statement that the members of the golden thread lie. This is largely false. Think about it. Why would we lie? There is no reason for it.

Everyone that studies majestic know that they protect their identity and operations by lying. It is a way of life for them.


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An Example of Majestic Lying


UncleJohn wrote:
dan wrote:
We're, the former Majestic folks, an unusual "horde" ;D ...and we make mistakes...but at least we're honest.


Uncle John here: There goes dan again. With the underline word "we're" honest, he is saying two things.

Remember at Rachel one of the first recorded sentences out of dan's mouth was that he never lies. This has been shown to be false, over and over again.

The other is the implied statement that the members of the golden thread lie. This is largely false. Think about it. Why would we lie? There is no reason for it.

Everyone that studies majestic know that they protect their identity and operations by lying. It is a way of life for them.


And for the naive, here is a perfect example; I'll be back with a copy of Marcia McDowell's email regarding this major lie of Majestic to underline the point:

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Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 07:11:50 +0100 (BST)
From: xxxxxx xxxxxx <xxxxxxxxxxxx>

To: dondep@xxxxxx.xxx

Subject: DISLOSURE IMMINENT
Mr. Deppeller,

Please do not reply here as those damned elements in
Las Vegas keep breaking into the system. I have
expanding news for you. First, I hope all of our
efforts, aside from the chap caught with the Hamilton
letters, are arriving. If they have, you now possess
an appreciation of how "in the dark" Dr. Burisch has
been kept. The disc is most important as Dr. Burisch
revealed his true orders during Operation Desert Storm
and the result of his actions during the Tau 9.

Dr. Burisch retired on March 21, 2005 at 5 am GMT.
Dr. Burisch was told by J2 on March 30, 2005 that he
had been lied to by the Maji, concerning the concocted
"butterfly effect"
. He was directly informed that his
silence had no consequence to the finding of the
Crystal Lotus Model in 2091. Once this information
spread to his inner circle, those around him began
contracting his psychological operating space so that
he would not gain internet or telephone access and
"tell the world" himself. He is extremely angry that
he was fed with such disinformation
and appears more
than willing to not only fight for himself and against
the trashing of his reputation, but move to public
DISCLOSURE. I must admit, though, this willingness is
very fragile and he is very weak. As the contraction
around him continues, and as he listens to the people
he calls "loved ones", the time is NOW to approach and
subpoena him. He is ready to scream from the roof
tops! In Dr. Burisch's failing health state, he barks
loudly but has very little energy to fight the strong
wills around him. His state continues to worsen and
there appears to be a progressive loss of coordination
due to seizure-related brain damage. Walking for him
has become more difficult and he now uses a cane. He
was issued a hand-crafted masonic walking stick, from
the Washington Consistory, by request of J1 himself.
It is personalized and quite elegant.

Recent communications between he and McDowell have
indicated that Dr. Burisch has demanded to sign some
type of document to forever swear off the receipt of
monetary gain from his story. Dr. Burisch reacted in
a very vehement manner about not receiving monies.
This portends that he intends a "story" to be told.
It also suggests that he has lost neither his sense of
moral balance nor his ethical base. McDowell is still
very active in the Maji and is Dr. Burisch's #1
protector. Ms. Marcher is a close friend of both she
and Mrs. Burisch and together they watch him 24/7.
Dr. Burisch is not aware that McDowell and Marcher are
close.

Other internet communications suggest that some type
of public announcement from Dr. Burisch's "handlers"
is imminent. I have read that whatever is coming, it
is not a book. I believe they intend to permanently
disallow Dr. Burisch actually speaking directly to the
public. McDowell is acting as the focus group
coordinator and appears to be in charge of how
anything would be released. She is the power player
now! I highly suggest you breathe not a word of this
to anyone else as the "handlers" may change their
direction if they know this leak has occurred.


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And for good measure, a copy of the email Marcia McDowell sent following her discovery, followed by a copy of an email Dan sent:

Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 15:56:24 -0800 (PST)
From: Operations Director <>
Subject: important - please read
To: xxxxxxxxxxx@yahoo.com
CC: xxxxxx@cox.net, xxxxxx@cox.net

Xxxxxxxxxx,
I have something very important we need to discuss.
Actually, all of us need to discuss it, and Dan has
agreed that he is not the best one to figure out how
to handle things from here - he is way too close to
this issue, and he has always been a little detached
from the outside world we all live in and have to
navigate on a daily basis. So he has asked me to
spearhead this brainstorming, and bring him my best
recommendation based on our collected wisdom.
Ok, all this drumrolling is over. Here's the basics as
best I can put them.
Within the last 48 hours (or thereabouts) Dan and I
learned something that really just rocked our world.
We learned that the Maji had been lying to us on a
very key issue concerning our limitations after public
retirement; namely the Butterfly Effect.
They had told us that if Dan or I spoke again
publically about what had previously been brought
forward (Area-51, S4, Dan's contact with the EBE, his
knowledge of EBE biochem, issues concerning his
participation in the Gulf War - the Lotus project, and
essentially all the work we have been involved with
since his retirement, ............. all that
stuff............that it would have a critical impact
on the Lotus Model being found in the future - and
that would result in a cascade of events that would
cause millions of people who could have been helped
through the Lotus Model, to either suffer, die or not
receive the help they might otherwise have gained.
Neither of us was willing to endanger so many, and we
willingly went into silence.
Well, we just found out that this was a lie. A pure
lie, concocted by some of the Maji,
and carried
forward to silence us in the most effective way that
they knew how - by using our own integrity as a
control mechanism.
The Maji are awfully smart about psychology - they
knew that no outside control source would ever have
been as effective as a restriction we imposed upon
ourselves, for honor and integrity.

.....
.....[snip]<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<


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And here is Dan's take on it (one of Dan's former codenames was "Pope"); the name "Tenet" refers to CIA Director George Tenet, fired for supposedly urging Majestic to over-ride DB's concerns about "turning on" the Great Pyramid using the 27 'tones'; the name "Prodi" refers to Italian prime minister Romano Prodi:

Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 20:53:59 -0800 (PST)
From: "Dan Burisch" <>
Subject: Session Distillation
To: "Binah" <>


Binah:

What follows is the distillation of the session
conducted this morning, basically read to you over the
phone.
You may share it with the Loop Group as you wish.

Pope
-----------------------------------------------------------------

31MAR05 I/C Session J1
Notes
1. Cause of Issued Untruth: Majority in the 12 was
tipped by Tenet/Prodi, to prevent my disclosure by
Illuminist Elements, 7/5 against.
2. Cause of Change: With Prodi/Tenet gone, shift has
now moved to 6/5 in favor. J1 advised that I can
proceed with what I am doing under the assurance of no
negative from the Maji, yet no vote authorizing. As
the Maji have been informed of my intent and that I
have now been told of the untruth, they officially sit
in a "not convened, no actions taken against operator,
no further presumption of wrong doing" status. They (6
of 11) have signed on that, and that prevents future
votes against me that could yield greater than a
deadlock (6 of 12) with no action.
3. Import: Some disclosures are good and some are bad.
(Could feed Illuminist elements, ex. military
disclosures.) Was told my particular history, truth to
be told, and my orientation to it, will do nothing but
act to hasten our survival and 2012 success. The 33
(CotM) voted in 1994 that I should be the one to
disclose (at an undetermined time) the relationship
between the ETs and the timelines, as the received
info from the positive ETs indicated it would hasten
our ability to resist the negative influences as we
approach that time. J1 was unaware of that vote and it
had been removed from the records by Tenet. J1 just
became aware of the vote and the Illuminist Elements
were exposed.
4. Possibles: If deemed appropriate from the data
provided by me (and possibly others), the Maji may
allow my (and others) exposure (Congressional) to "do
the (D)eed."

.....
.....[snip]<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

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March 30th 2005 was the "key" date.

The date of contrived chaos in the original golden thread between Marcher, Toni and You.

"The Big Break Up."

The forming of SNEDs.

The Slander against you Don and Toni

It seems to me all of it was contrived, a show, a created split and break up.



As I read that email Don. Something instantly lept to mind. There are two distinct and different "Dan Burisch's" there is the one before March 30th, 2005 and there is Dan Burisch post March 30th 2005.

Somehow they don't seem like the same person nor personalities.

What strikes me is this before 2005 Burisch swore and sincerely stated he rather be dead then have any dealing with the Ufer community which he viewed as nuts and loons. But ever since 2005 Burisch has basically become a ufer media pig :)

Speculation:

Could it just be that the Burisch we see today is a look a like. While the real Burisch is in sequestered?

It would explain why McDowell and Marcher were assigned as Bulldogs to guard Burisch, they don't want anyone getting a good close up look at this Dan Burisch. At least anyone from the 'old group' (ie Golden Thread) that could spot the Real from the Fake. They wouldn't have to worry about anyone 'new' to the story for they would not be able to spot the Look alike.

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"Dr. Burisch was told by J2 on March 30, 2005 that he
had been lied to by the Maji, concerning the concocted
"butterfly effect""


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March 30th 2005 was the "key" date.

The date of contrived chaos in the original golden thread between Marcher, Toni and You.

"The Big Break Up."

The forming of SNEDs.

The Slander against you Don and Toni

It seems to me all of it was contrived, a show, a created split and break up.


Whoa, Shady! That was a year later! The Affidavit hadn't happened yet in 2005!



:!: :!: :!: :!: :!:

You're right in your analysis though. There has been a distinctly different DB ever since May, 2006. It has a lot to do with DB's induction into the Priore de Sion, which he is sworn never to admit to (he's allowed to admit he's joined one of the 'front' Priories).

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True

But note something from all the 2005, 2006 pics and videos.

We are constently told that Burisch's health is touch and go at the very best. He suffers from heart trouble, suffers sizeures, migraines and other verious illiness. He must walk with a cane at times.

When he signed your documents. No cane.
When he supposedly was getting it noterized no cane.

When he did the video with Uhouse Dan was weak and holding cane.

Dan Burisch's 'health' problems are a matter of "Now you see it, now you don't ." Changes month to month.

For a man that is reportedly suffering a rather life threatening heart problem. He sure seemed "Fit" doing a one hour lecture on foot without break lecture at Caltech. He also did the NV UFO thing.. sure seemed fit for a man supposedly on deaths door.


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Dondep wrote:
Shady Groves wrote:
March 30th 2005 was the "key" date.

The date of contrived chaos in the original golden thread between Marcher, Toni and You.

"The Big Break Up."

The forming of SNEDs.

The Slander against you Don and Toni

It seems to me all of it was contrived, a show, a created split and break up.


Whoa, Shady! That was a year later! The Affidavit hadn't happened yet in 2005!



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Why you paranoid little gimp. I need not register at your forum. Infact I haven't registered in your forum since May 2006 when I planted SIX alternative accounts there. I was testing your supposed Majestic Security which was at best none existent... lol

Why I could be there right now posting under one of them and you wouldn't know or have a clue! :)


Good hunting,


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..does anyone really think, in their damed conceit, that what is going on within their howse is
that much better that what is going on in the elites howses

yesm, i read godlike regularly
purty much every reasonable post
but my god
or your god
hell i don't care whose go d it is

make somthing happen
to sway
the timelines
whcih ones?
you pikkum
aye don't care it doesn't matte rto me
i became enlightened a long time ago
do you remeber when you first saw beyond the veil
it was a long time ago

will you or me or anyone get to
wsmoove elites to go away
to to efface the crwoning joy of
the totaliliy of humanities
bertha

maybe but you hafta show me somting
other than
harange
harange
oragutan

disclosure will not comer
mah baybees
until we think like the
~others~
this mudspoiling
and thowing sand inna playground
is so much
toss me off pop

at this point you either ~get it~
or you don't

he said/she said
is so '50's


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Just how easy would it be to track down Knight 2's real name?

Very easy...

The offical death toll for Desert Storm and Desert Shield.

Branch of Service; Killed In Action; Non-Mortal Wounds:


Army; 224 KIA, 0 Non-Mortal Wounds
Navy: 56 KIA, 12 Non-Mortal Wounds
Marines: 24, 92 Non-Mortal Wounds
Air Force: 35, 0 Non-Mortal Wounds

Now considering that Dan Crain was supposedly given the cover of Navy Captian, Knight 2 would have most likely had the same cover in Navy. Being that they were under Cover ranks. They would be listed in the Official records and their records not erased as is standard procedure for Intelligence Agencies.

It would be a simple search of how many deaths in the Navy listing were due to copter shot down or down copters within the Navy Branch of Service.

I did the search btw ;) And came up with interesting results including purple hearts awarded.


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Post so they sat by the fyre
Ganesh: "Blob, it feels so freee to have outlived ones usefulness.

Sidekick Blob: "Yes, Gan it does. but i am still hungray, can we go to circklekay."

Dr. So: "in the circkle kay, in th efreezer section, in the sacred ~IN-OUT~. Like a zombie you will go to that and withdraw a new life essence, drank it, make holy your new paradigmic odds-bodkinsm, then esplain yourselve lucy."

Lucy Recardo: "Ohhh Ricky, do we hafto?"

Babbaloo: "I went to a secret meeeting where they tole me these populaces all want to drive she sayud. and the jointer cheifs sayud then ya gottum steelit poppy, then i came reeling out of that and they sayud you bad. so i cried and lifted up my haid and sayud okay dokay lord i guess i weel be bad, or the ten thousand janies that must leach off the world consciousness cannot go to college in their suv's."

Moses: "yes, i was about to get to that part."

Jambalier: "the hardest thing for aman to do is judge. it really is not your job. what is your job? to do somting new with the grace of god inspiring you. satiidy night live tole ya that long ago in the belushi era. no it didn't stick. nothing sticks with you foghats. not that that s wrong."


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Post all the littol janies
and they literally risked their lives for napalming 3rd word peeps
so so many thousands of janies coudl go to college in their suvs

and tell me now

what agression has n. vietnam ever done to any neighbor since

answer: notting

vietnam was a sewer

iraq, another sewer

the elite

led on by a populace that is so demanding of evythnag it does not deserve
but greedily demands

and the elites went into hole dormancy to try to feed this beast
of mammon
became mammon itself
and then
j'accuse the beast
turned and snarled at them

you cannot have it both ways

want disclosure?

then think like an alien
walk like an egeptian
shine lile someone who
is not part of the sopranos

sopranos? we are all part of that
evil eager impulse

the elite just ry to scurry around
and give you what you aparently want

yes, i do have a good point'

these beings from beyond ain't gonna do a damn thing
except maybe torment uj
sorry john i love you brother you know that
but exceivistechristes
it starts with us all
the elites
as you are so maudlin abou tthem
are reflecting your lifestyles
which to give up in earnet
and in advance would exact a code
far beyond any of us to give up


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Post yes i clearly saw
Ganesh: "Blob, i saw a man today, oh boy, heading for circklekay corn chips frothing outa his fush ya mange, komplaing about the guvernment
the inferal beast
but in his very howse, was all the 'faux plastic eden' build on revloting plazticgazzes that they made us wanton like beests."

Sidekick Blob: "yes it is rather odd gan, how they become such bioclismic blame artists."

Dr. So: "They like the folxx who zay it is all interconnected, yet they do not want to connect
on their own reciprozity."

John Belushi: "Fuck oh dear. I'm outa here."

Oh me too: "Oh me too."

The alien question: "I can't decipher the good guys form the bady guys. they all lokk like shit. lets carve up some cow assholes and get outa heyars."

The other alien questioneer: "fucking aye dude. lets do it. fuck these mosnters.


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wingmaker's fields forever wrote:
What follows is a session I recorded of Dr. Neruda on December 31, 1997

Sarah: “And the spiritual?”

Dr. Neruda: “Yes, thank you. The spiritual is that these two tracks are leading humankind to something that the WingMakers call the Grand Portal. It is the connection to our human soul, which has been broken into hundreds of pieces and strewn across the globe in the form of different colors, cultures, languages, and geographies, and is now in the process of an unalterable reunion.

“This is the spiritual aspect, and it touches everything in our lives. It penetrates every single atom of our collective existence, imbuing it with a destiny that is yet unseen.”

Sarah: “You just mentioned the Grand Portal. What is it?”

Dr. Neruda: “In the glossary found on the optical disc, it talks about this—”

Sarah: “Just so you know I did read the section of the glossary you gave me, but only once, and it didn’t stick with me too well. Can you explain it again, please?”

Dr. Neruda: “The Grand Portal, according to the WingMakers, is the indisputable, scientific discovery of the human soul.”

Sarah: “Sort of like LERM isn’t it?”

Dr. Neruda: “Similar, but LERM is more the demonstration that the unification force exists and interpenetrates all dimensions of existence. It is the proof of spirit, if you will. The human soul remains elusive to our technology.”

Sarah “But you’re not saying that soul and spirit are different are you because I was always taught that soul and spirit are essentially one and the same thing.”

Dr. Neruda: “Soul, or what the WingMakers refer to as the Wholeness Navigator, is the replica of First Source (God), only compartmentalized into a singular, immortal, and wholly individualized personality. Spirit is more of the connecting force that unifies the individual soul with First Source and all other souls.”

Sarah: “I’m not sure I followed that description, but it may be that my mind is saturated right now and nothing you said would get through my thick skull.

“Anyway, what will be gained by having this discovery… the Grand Portal?”

Dr. Neruda: “Everything that keeps us separate – locked in statehood and provincial concerns – will be obliterated when this undeniable proof is obtained.”

Sarah: “Why would the basic nature of man, which has taken hundreds of thousands of years to form, suddenly change when science steps forward and announces that it has proven the existence of soul? It doesn’t seem plausible to me.”

Dr. Neruda: “According to the WingMakers this is the evolutionary path of the human species, and the discovery of the Grand Portal is the culmination of a global species. It creates the conditions whereby the things that separate us are stripped away, whether they’re color, race, form, geography, religion, or anything else. We find ourselves staring into the lens of science and we see that all humans are composed of the same inner substance – whatever you choose to call it – and it is this that truly defines us and our capabilities.”

Sarah: “So everything we’ve been talking about tonight… the globalization of humankind culminates in this discovery? Is that what you’re saying?”

Dr. Neruda: “Yes.”

Sarah: “And the Incunabula planners will be there, waiting to guide us. Is that also part of the plan?”

Dr. Neruda: “I don’t know if there’ll be a role for the Incunabula in this new world. Perhaps, perhaps not.”

Sarah: “If an individual would experience this Grand Portal and establish for themselves that they are composed of a soul – an immortal soul – wouldn’t it profoundly change the way in which they live? I mean I’m just starting to think of the ramifications, and they’re kind of scary.


Uncle John here: Discovery of the Grand Portal. That is nothing.

Programming the Grand Portal or better yet being one of it's architects. That is a lot more fun.


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owl wrote:
Here you go, Rob. Marci said to go ahead. They're caught, again.


owl wrote:
Like Dan said, "we're honest." We just want them to stop harasssing our forum and the good people who come here.

Brian


Uncle John here: Brian does not seem to know the difference between the singular and the plural in the use of the English language.

Brian, through his use of the wrong tense, is dishonest. Just like the rest of d&m&thugs.

dan wrote:
You have my permission to leave that up only for a short time, so the people from there become aware that their forum has been reported to the authorities, again. There are innocent people there who are probably unaware of the cyberterrorism campaign being waged against us, by the company they keep.

They have a right to know.


UJ: It seems that dan has a problem with the English language also.


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